@@doctorscoot Intonation was easy as there is a ton of room for adjustment. As for the tension on the springs, I wasn't sure what would work best, so i just made them as similar as I could :) Need to do some more experimentation for the perfect feel!
Really cool to see hardware manufacturers getting creative to find technical solutions. Most guitar brands are stucked in the 70s for so long now. I hope they will get as creative for headless tremolos and locking nuts, which are left aside for too long. Ergonomic and light guitars are the future, wether we like it or not. But this one is really clever, like their Strat system. Well done guys and thanks for the review.
I agree! great video, great review, and i love seeing new and innovative ideas coming to fruition. There's some cool ideas out there in the area of pickups, too :]
Darrell, When removing the ferrules, if they are really tight, they can chip off the finish when you knock them out. It is advisable to use a collar around the ferrules to prevent finish chipping.
@@JohnFlaky-jm7dd you can use a fitting washer and it should be enough. You can also score the perimeter of the ferrule with a sharp blade and that should be enough.
@@N-DtoF I was wondering the same thing. There's clearly a chip of paint missing after he installs everything and flips it around... After seeing how well played in the neck is I came to the conclusion that either he didn't notice or doesn't much care. I would like to know directly from Darrell though. 🤔
I was hoping you’d do a video on this! Any chance we could get a part 2 maybe about maintenance or something? There’s very little info out there about this system
Stop using maximum aperture in your camera, because it results in shallow depth of field and focusing problems - watching your content is sometimes a pain in the... eyes ;)
I'm moving to Thailand and noticed a interesting brand called Gusta, they have a model called GST-05. Would be great to see you reviewing that. BTW, I'm from Brazil and we have some great models from Tagima and Seizi, just another ideas to review as well :)
Hi Darrell, this video is causing a bit of confusion: I believe you are mounting a new release but on the Vegatrem site (13th of May 2023) they are still showing the version where you need to drill 2 holes in the guitar body. Please give an update with clarifications. Thank you very much.
It’s available without that horrible eyesore logo on the arm fortunately. If I got one like yours I’d have to break out the Dremel. Can the arm be moved away from the body any? I don’t care for hitting my knuckles on the pick guard.
Damn! What a clever design! Edit: After looking further into it, it looks like they've changed the design a bit to avoid the need to drill two new holes into the body. Their website still shows only the old design. The thing is, they advertise the old design as requiring no permanent changes while absolutely requiring drilling 2 new holes into the body. Here are their statements from their website: 1. "Installing a VT2 Teletrem, unlike other options on the market, deeply respect the body of your beloved guitar without the need of making any permanent changes. 2. "Installing a VT2 just needs a screwdriver and following a few simple steps that you will find in the assembly instructions section". Not a word about drilling. They mention drilling only on the instruction video. I find it a bit dishonest. Though I'm glad they, apparently, improved the design to avoid the drilling. Thought it was something worth noting.
As Dave mentioned, that's not a Fender body. So it took some hole opening up! No big. IMHO the design and materials create a very clear, stable and intonation tight system. Thanks for your comment!
@@timothyvaher2421 You mean Darrell? I didn't refer to the drilling he did here. I referred to the drilling needed to install the bridge in the old design. The bridge in this video is the new no-drill design. Which would have been nice if he mentioned that, actually.
Since you edit between close ups and wide shots, why not set 1 camera up on manual focus and set it for the close ups, and then another camera for the wide shots? That would eliminate the annoying auto-outafocus.
I love there Strat design but I’ve sent mines back. It wasn’t chrome like the pics and the sales guy said Vega is only selling stainless steal for now (which looks cheap imo). 🤘🏼✌🏼
They're not compensated saddles... they're adjustable saddles. There's nothing to compensate. And try a soldering iron to heat up the string ferrules before removing them. Prevents that chip in the finish.
What a cool idea! And with no drilling for installation. I’ve always thought a Tele should have a less invasive vibrato than a Bigsby. (Bigsbys work OK, but changing strings without something like a Vibramate Spoiler is a nightmare!)
I like the innovative idea, but the trem doesn't look rock solid. I would love to see what it would do to the guitar after a couple of months of actively using it, especially to those string holes.
Excellent design & many thanks Darrell for bringing this to the fore, BUT, as much as i'd like to get one, i'm going to pass- Vegatrem's trems (try saying that 10 times in a row without faulting lol) are ridiculously expensive, this is the reason i never got one for my strat & went with a wilkinson replacement instead. This is only my opinion, i'm not trashing the excellent product nor those who have no problem paying that sort of money (this one costs 260+ euro AND I'M IN EUROPE!)- also i really dont like the whammy bar- those VT letters kill it for me- but hey, since i wont be getting one, who cares right? :) Keep up the great vids, they are much appreciated.
Dude, one of the VERY FIRST Utube videos I ever saw was you, Darrell Braun doing the Vega Trem video. I know, it was only 5 years ago - and yes, I did live "under a rock" for nearly 20 years! (I had a debilitating alcohol substance abuse - addiction, and, it tool me 15 years of going through the revolving doors of detox → rehab → retox → de-hab ! before I got sick of banging my head against that same same wall - and finally stayed clean & sober. So yeah, 5 odd years ago, I got an iphone...and we finally got decent WiFi down here in Australia ..and I started watching utube - for the very first time! And it went approximately like this: Start : "Strat or Tele??" videos (Oh, yeah, I had sold my gear 18 years in addiction, and even when I got periods of clean time - I found that so painful to think of, I just convinced myself I don't want to be a guitar player any more. (I had played for 8 years before that - 12-20) So anyway, cut it short...I was weighing up which guitar to buy to get back into in. Funnily enough, a Strat and a Tele were the only guitars i had ever owned. So, the S Va T videos - of which there are many , andvone of yours, I believe...?? Anyway i watched someoned Verse off....then I saw your video on the Ibanez...the RG Vs the S. Like everyone else, I was immediately smitten with the golden, quilt top Saber you had! It was the first I'd seen one, and i went off to discover them. I ended up on Nita Strauss' Jiva. And, iyf course, I fell in immediate love - and the guitar's not bad , either..! 😁 No, seriously, I got hooked on the idea of an Ibanez S. The Jivva was certainly (and still is) a top runner. I very neaely bought the iron label 6SiXFdfm model, if anyone remembers...but I had missed it by the time went ti pull the trigger!🤦♂️ CRUSHED!!😭😭😫😩😭 Next, your Vega Trem video absolutely sold me, should I ever wish to upgrade a strat bridge in the future. It looks so high quality and solid. Anyway, now Ive told you that, and.... Imma go,😕 -----👉 now ... It took me half an hour of my life to type...and will likely get few, if any likes, or even reads! But if Darrell actually reads it - then... that'll be cool! I really do have a sense of nostalgia, for only 5 or so Years ago...strange, I know!
Good for you being Sober.And picking guitar back up again.Playing guitar helps me keep my sanity..25 yrs.sober for me.Couldn't imagine ever going back.I like reading the Comments section as much as I do watching the videos..Best Regards...💯👍
I read it! It’s never a waste of time. I “waste my time” writing long comments too. Sometimes trolls reply about my novel (I ignore). Other times, you meet some nice people who also love guitar and can relate with what you have to say. I’d love to recommend the @ThreeChordDave TH-cam channel to you. Amazing group of people, especially during the live stream (Dave goes live 10PM Irish time on Saturdays - he’s Irish, but we have people from all over the world. I’m in NYC). I know there’s a few people who sobered up after a rough time. Some of us also have health challenges. And all of us are a bit nutty, lol. You would be very welcomed. We all always laugh and have a great time talking about guitars, music, and other nonsense - and poking fun at Dave a bit. Even if you can’t come to the live streams, Dave releases really great videos besides. Best wishes to you! Way to find your way back to guitar and find success with self-improvement! - Marsha
A few points. You state that the saddles are compensated. They don't appear to be, and there is no reason for them to be, as there is a separate saddle for each string, adjustable as with any six-saddle Tele or Strat bridge, by means of the familar spring and screw arrangement. This should ensure near-perfect intonation. The VegaTrem site doesn't mention compensated saddles, and we can be sure that they would. You don't mention adjusting the intonation. The saddles in the positions shown would be wildly out of intonation, and yet the guitar as demonstrated plays in tune. Nor do you explain how adjusting the spring tension affects intonation, which it certainly should. Knocking out the ferrules can lead to finish damage if the ferrules were installed before the body was finished. Anybody contemplating this mod should check this, and if necessary score carefully around the edge of the ferrules with a sharp (X-Acto type) blade before removing the ferrules, to break any bond with the finish. The trem sounds good, but I feel that the complexity of installation and setup has been minimised.
Another sick trem system for teles that uses the original mounting hardware is a Stetsbar! You should check them out. Its got a real bigsby vibe to it, but super simple to install and remove.
I noticed you mentioned a screw in arm. Is it an unthreaded bar with a tightenable collet or is the bar actually threaded? Not a big fan of the old style threaded bars, but prefer an adjustable arm. Very cool however. Both my Tele's (A classic vibe and a partscaster I built) have Bigsby's with Vibramate adapters (for non-mod installs) and to make them easier to string - and they work beautifully but add a lot of weight. This is a really smart design. Really love your videos and variety of content. :)
I’m alway seeking a tele style guitar with a trem system. That’s the perfect setup with the humbucker/single.. the surf green tops it off .. dreamy guitar 😊
This system is really cool!!! I definitely like it!!! But the “VT” on the trem arm is ugly as Hell!!! I’d get a different trem arm. It just looks terrible!!
This looks killer and we are sold on the system but will wait for availability of a longer bar since for surf we kind of need that. The threaded arm part looks kind of Floydish so wondering if a standard Floyd arm would fit AND if longer arms already exist?
Um... tape over the ground wire will prevent it from making contact with the bridge plate you do not want to do this, because you will have no string ground
Very cool. I like the option without the 'VT' on the arm. However, the price.... €250+ is crazy expensive. I can buy a used guitar with a bigsby for that.
The VT2 ND trem in this video is not available until June 2023. I just saw a video featuring the maker in a Premier Guitar at NAMM video. Both the VT2 and VT2 ND will be available, but the ND will cost more.
Hello Darrell,Love your show. How do I get a whammy bar and the tuning machines for my old Donner DST -152 I looked all over the internet and found nothing! Do know the thread size of the Donner Whammy bar. You are my last hope Dan
Darrell, or anyone else in this comment section, my dudes. I need your help. So I just got a PRS SE custom 22 and I am locking to switch the Chrome hardware to Gold hardware, which means getting a new bridge. but for the life of me I can't find the bridge size or right bridge. do you have any recommendations by any chance? Do Fender trems fit as direct replacements? I was also looking at the Flyod Rose Rail Tail, think that would work? any points in the right directions would be an absolute life saver. thanks!
Hi Darrell! Love your videos. I have a question that I think you might be able to answer. Will you take a look at this guitar at the beginning of this video and tell me if you know what it is? Slow Blues Guitar Backing Track in A. I've only ever seen it a couple of times and I'm very curious. Thank you for your time. Have a great day.
This thing is a joke. I saw the website and these are outrageously priced. For more than what this is I could make it in a garage! I'd sell them for around $50.00 each. Nothing special here. I only wonder how long these springs will take to wear out? It's a kitschy product born of kitschy ideas. The Telecaster as it is now known was never meant to have a tremolo which is why the Strat was invented. With the available tremolos out there I don't see why anyone would want one when the already durable and proven designs are more usable and functional.
I kind of feel like that is an overly elaborate mechanism to produce just a subtle vibrato. If you just want a bit of shimmer, something like the Gibson Vibrola, which is just a bent piece of metal, could easily be designed to go on a Telecaster without doing anything invasive, and the benefit would be its simple, fool proof design.
Darrel, I'm surprised you didn't let us know what an absolute pita this thing is. I want to love it, but touch it and the guitar won't return to tune. I opened the thring thru holes to 3/16, and it still hangs up. All the videos show popping right on. I find it hard to believe anyone can put this on, set up the guitar, and use it. It's in the package waiting to go back. I think if I had a new build, I would route the string thru holes to a 1/4 rectangular route. I would only go as deep to leave about 1/4 thk where strings come thru the back. Then I think the springs being free would give a chance at tuning stability. Ack, i wanna keep it but cannot.
You should really stop to talk about "trem systems" or "tremolo systems" when you talk about vibrato systems. There are no guitars with pre-installed tremolo, but many guitars with a vibrato system. And sorry, the lame excuse "but Leo Fender called it so" is just a cop-out, because Leo never was a guitar player, and mistakes he made do not need to be repeated again and again and again.
In other videos on different channels when they installed this tremolo they had to drill two holes into the body of the guitar. I'm wondering if this is a new version of the trim from Vega? Also, other channels had much more difficulty in getting it turned up.
Score gently around the ferrule with an X-Acto or similar scalpel-type knife before removing. That should break any bond between the finish and the ferrule.
The angle between the fulcrum and the saddles decreases, and the tension of the string will decrease. When the string is plucked, more swinging energy will be consumed and the sustain will be shortened.
It seems the tremolo is very subtle, pitch change is minimal, not even a half step. I would suggest a way to bend the angles of the trem arm so that it is higher distance from the body, so you could push down more and get more pitch change. I did that with a cheap trem system, bent the bar in a vice to give it more height , to have more pitch variation. Of course, the more you can bend the pitch, the more chance of going out of tune. I wonder if those letters might be a hazard? But I love the simplicity, and the blade setup is very subtle.
This is something I never thought I'd see!
Enjoy :)
Vega-trem link: vegatrem.com/vt2-teletrem-telecaster-tremolo/
how easy was it to get the tension and the intonation etc on the 6 springs setup? as you say, amazing simple idea
@@doctorscoot Intonation was easy as there is a ton of room for adjustment. As for the tension on the springs, I wasn't sure what would work best, so i just made them as similar as I could :) Need to do some more experimentation for the perfect feel!
Have you ever considered reviewing the Stetsbar trem?
What a great idea. Does it also fit for a sire larry carlton telecaster t7awh?
All this needs is a bar extension, internally threaded like the existing knob on the bar.
Really cool to see hardware manufacturers getting creative to find technical solutions. Most guitar brands are stucked in the 70s for so long now. I hope they will get as creative for headless tremolos and locking nuts, which are left aside for too long. Ergonomic and light guitars are the future, wether we like it or not. But this one is really clever, like their Strat system. Well done guys and thanks for the review.
I agree! great video, great review, and i love seeing new and innovative ideas coming to fruition. There's some cool ideas out there in the area of pickups, too :]
Sophisticated and well crafted and then they screwed it up with the ugly welded VT logo on the bar
Darrell, When removing the ferrules, if they are really tight, they can chip off the finish when you knock them out. It is advisable to use a collar around the ferrules to prevent finish chipping.
His guitar suffered chipping
Not sure why it wasn't mentioned unless he really didn't notice it.
@@N-DtoF I didn’t look very closely at the video.
Where can you get them?
@@JohnFlaky-jm7dd you can use a fitting washer and it should be enough.
You can also score the perimeter of the ferrule with a sharp blade and that should be enough.
@@N-DtoF I was wondering the same thing. There's clearly a chip of paint missing after he installs everything and flips it around... After seeing how well played in the neck is I came to the conclusion that either he didn't notice or doesn't much care.
I would like to know directly from Darrell though. 🤔
One more "I should have thought of that first." moment yet again. Very admirable solution indeed.
I love how you jumped right into it. I'm so tired of long-winded intros and articles! Thank you
I was hoping you’d do a video on this! Any chance we could get a part 2 maybe about maintenance or something? There’s very little info out there about this system
That's very cool and so simple and elegant. I mean, who'da thought to use the string holes for the trem springs! Thanks for showing this!
Vega Trem, hecho en España. 🇪🇸
Stop using maximum aperture in your camera, because it results in shallow depth of field and focusing problems - watching your content is sometimes a pain in the... eyes ;)
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER try to remove a ferule with pliers. Super bad advice.
What's the purpose of six compensated saddles, if they are each fully independently adjustable?
You just answered your own question.
I'm moving to Thailand and noticed a interesting brand called Gusta, they have a model called GST-05. Would be great to see you reviewing that. BTW, I'm from Brazil and we have some great models from Tagima and Seizi, just another ideas to review as well :)
Hi Darrell, this video is causing a bit of confusion: I believe you are mounting a new release but on the Vegatrem site (13th of May 2023) they are still showing the version where you need to drill 2 holes in the guitar body. Please give an update with clarifications. Thank you very much.
i have a top loader squire tele. i was going to drill it out to make it a string thru anyways so i might just go this route
It’s available without that horrible eyesore logo on the arm fortunately. If I got one like yours I’d have to break out the Dremel. Can the arm be moved away from the body any? I don’t care for hitting my knuckles on the pick guard.
I was going to say... step 1 install. Step 2... bust out the dremel.
Really clever non distructive trem install on a tele
Which model is this? The ones on there website all requires drilling 2 holes.
Sponsored video. Don't want us to know. These are terrible btw.
Sweet tele! Did you get any chip-out on the back when you removed the ferrules?
Yes, one. You can see it between the E and B.
A very cool product and you did an excellent "Demo" of it!
Very clever mechanism, looks great too
Man turns your regular tele into a Cadillac. Great video I loved it you showed me something I never new existed.
Damn! What a clever design!
Edit:
After looking further into it, it looks like they've changed the design a bit to avoid the need to drill two new holes into the body. Their website still shows only the old design.
The thing is, they advertise the old design as requiring no permanent changes while absolutely requiring drilling 2 new holes into the body.
Here are their statements from their website:
1. "Installing a VT2 Teletrem, unlike other options on the market, deeply respect the body of your beloved guitar without the need of making any permanent changes.
2. "Installing a VT2 just needs a screwdriver and following a few simple steps that you will find in the assembly instructions section".
Not a word about drilling. They mention drilling only on the instruction video.
I find it a bit dishonest.
Though I'm glad they, apparently, improved the design to avoid the drilling.
Thought it was something worth noting.
As Dave mentioned, that's not a Fender body. So it took some hole opening up! No big. IMHO the design and materials create a very clear, stable and intonation tight system. Thanks for your comment!
@@timothyvaher2421
You mean Darrell?
I didn't refer to the drilling he did here. I referred to the drilling needed to install the bridge in the old design. The bridge in this video is the new no-drill design.
Which would have been nice if he mentioned that, actually.
Dave’s not here
@@KCCheez My license? Isn't it on the back of the car??
3 bills? No thanks
That's super cool. I never liked a Bigsby, they're clunky. I need to look into this. Thanks Darrell
i don’t like the logo physically on the arm like that but it looks very cool, but expensive
it also comes without the logo
Since you edit between close ups and wide shots, why not set 1 camera up on manual focus and set it for the close ups, and then another camera for the wide shots? That would eliminate the annoying auto-outafocus.
That was really awesome. Great idea and design. I think you're right about an extended arm
The really big VT branding really isn’t my taste, but I love how this trem works
I love there Strat design but I’ve sent mines back. It wasn’t chrome like the pics and the sales guy said Vega is only selling stainless steal for now (which looks cheap imo). 🤘🏼✌🏼
Thanks for consistently showing us new and cool guitar stuff! I've been wanting to put a twang bar on my partscaster tele. This might be the one!
They're not compensated saddles... they're adjustable saddles. There's nothing to compensate. And try a soldering iron to heat up the string ferrules before removing them. Prevents that chip in the finish.
What a cool idea! And with no drilling for installation. I’ve always thought a Tele should have a less invasive vibrato than a Bigsby. (Bigsbys work OK, but changing strings without something like a Vibramate Spoiler is a nightmare!)
I like the way you review and explain every detail of your guitar .
The only thing I don’t like is the goofy looking arm. If you can use a Strat arm on this, it would be awesome.
How the hell did it take 70 years for somebody to think of this? It is both strange, but seems so obvious once you look at it.
I like the innovative idea, but the trem doesn't look rock solid. I would love to see what it would do to the guitar after a couple of months of actively using it, especially to those string holes.
That is very high quality Craftsmanship.....that company is on top of the game....
GFS pickups very nice
Good eye! Great pups for the price
@@DarrellBraunGuitar they’re pretty much all I buy for the price. In the states two pups cost the same as one top name brand.
This makes me want a Tele ! :)
Would love an update on this one! There' are some conflicting reports out there.
I have to say I hardly ever play my Tele, but this is pretty cool! Still not into the price tag.
2:34 What sort of plug and play bridge pickup system is he using here? I noticed the pickup jacks into a cable 🤔
Doesn't look like a 'Klikplug'
Im typically a hardtail guy, but I’m genuinely considering buying this for my Tele!
Suddenly, I’m interested in a telecaster
Excellent design & many thanks Darrell for bringing this to the fore, BUT, as much as i'd like to get one, i'm going to pass- Vegatrem's trems (try saying that 10 times in a row without faulting lol) are ridiculously expensive, this is the reason i never got one for my strat & went with a wilkinson replacement instead.
This is only my opinion, i'm not trashing the excellent product nor those who have no problem paying that sort of money (this one costs 260+ euro AND I'M IN EUROPE!)- also i really dont like the whammy bar- those VT letters kill it for me- but hey, since i wont be getting one, who cares right? :) Keep up the great vids, they are much appreciated.
Dude, one of the VERY FIRST Utube videos I ever saw was you, Darrell Braun doing the Vega Trem video.
I know, it was only 5 years ago - and yes, I did live "under a rock" for nearly 20 years!
(I had a debilitating alcohol substance abuse - addiction, and, it tool me 15 years of going through the revolving doors of detox → rehab → retox → de-hab ! before I got sick of banging my head against that same same wall - and finally stayed clean & sober.
So yeah, 5 odd years ago, I got an iphone...and we finally got decent WiFi down here in Australia ..and I started watching utube - for the very first time!
And it went approximately like this:
Start : "Strat or Tele??" videos
(Oh, yeah, I had sold my gear 18 years in addiction, and even when I got periods of clean time - I found that so painful to think of, I just convinced myself I don't want to be a guitar player any more.
(I had played for 8 years before that - 12-20)
So anyway, cut it short...I was weighing up which guitar to buy to get back into in.
Funnily enough, a Strat and a Tele were the only guitars i had ever owned.
So, the S Va T videos - of which there are many , andvone of yours, I believe...??
Anyway i watched someoned Verse off....then I saw your video on the Ibanez...the RG Vs the S.
Like everyone else, I was immediately smitten with the golden, quilt top Saber you had! It was the first I'd seen one, and i went off to discover them.
I ended up on Nita Strauss' Jiva. And, iyf course, I fell in immediate love - and the guitar's not bad , either..! 😁
No, seriously, I got hooked on the idea of an Ibanez S. The Jivva was certainly (and still is) a top runner.
I very neaely bought the iron label 6SiXFdfm model, if anyone remembers...but I had missed it by the time went ti pull the trigger!🤦♂️ CRUSHED!!😭😭😫😩😭
Next, your Vega Trem video absolutely sold me, should I ever wish to upgrade a strat bridge in the future.
It looks so high quality and solid.
Anyway, now Ive told you that, and.... Imma go,😕 -----👉 now ...
It took me half an hour of my life to type...and will likely get few, if any likes, or even reads!
But if Darrell actually reads it - then... that'll be cool!
I really do have a sense of nostalgia, for only 5 or so Years ago...strange, I know!
Good for you being Sober.And picking guitar back up again.Playing guitar helps me keep my sanity..25 yrs.sober for me.Couldn't imagine ever going back.I like reading the Comments section as much as I do watching the videos..Best Regards...💯👍
I read it! It’s never a waste of time. I “waste my time” writing long comments too. Sometimes trolls reply about my novel (I ignore). Other times, you meet some nice people who also love guitar and can relate with what you have to say.
I’d love to recommend the @ThreeChordDave TH-cam channel to you. Amazing group of people, especially during the live stream (Dave goes live 10PM Irish time on Saturdays - he’s Irish, but we have people from all over the world. I’m in NYC). I know there’s a few people who sobered up after a rough time. Some of us also have health challenges. And all of us are a bit nutty, lol. You would be very welcomed. We all always laugh and have a great time talking about guitars, music, and other nonsense - and poking fun at Dave a bit. Even if you can’t come to the live streams, Dave releases really great videos besides.
Best wishes to you! Way to find your way back to guitar and find success with self-improvement! - Marsha
A man takes a drink, a drink takes a drink, a drink takes a man. Good work kicking the booze.
A few points.
You state that the saddles are compensated. They don't appear to be, and there is no reason for them to be, as there is a separate saddle for each string, adjustable as with any six-saddle Tele or Strat bridge, by means of the familar spring and screw arrangement. This should ensure near-perfect intonation. The VegaTrem site doesn't mention compensated saddles, and we can be sure that they would.
You don't mention adjusting the intonation. The saddles in the positions shown would be wildly out of intonation, and yet the guitar as demonstrated plays in tune. Nor do you explain how adjusting the spring tension affects intonation, which it certainly should.
Knocking out the ferrules can lead to finish damage if the ferrules were installed before the body was finished. Anybody contemplating this mod should check this, and if necessary score carefully around the edge of the ferrules with a sharp (X-Acto type) blade before removing the ferrules, to break any bond with the finish.
The trem sounds good, but I feel that the complexity of installation and setup has been minimised.
I imagine he meant to say "compensating" saddles, for the reason you state.
Another sick trem system for teles that uses the original mounting hardware is a Stetsbar! You should check them out. Its got a real bigsby vibe to it, but super simple to install and remove.
My hat off to Vega-trem, that's a truly clever design
Check out the Duesenberg Les Trem.
An option for a more minimalist bar would be cool
What about a trem system, like this, for converting a hard tail Strat?
i tought i was the first one to come up with this idea..
Tight!
I noticed you mentioned a screw in arm. Is it an unthreaded bar with a tightenable collet or is the bar actually threaded? Not a big fan of the old style threaded bars, but prefer an adjustable arm. Very cool however. Both my Tele's (A classic vibe and a partscaster I built) have Bigsby's with Vibramate adapters (for non-mod installs) and to make them easier to string - and they work beautifully but add a lot of weight. This is a really smart design.
Really love your videos and variety of content. :)
I’m alway seeking a tele style guitar with a trem system. That’s the perfect setup with the humbucker/single.. the surf green tops it off .. dreamy guitar 😊
His bridge pickup is actually a humbucker housed in a single coil size pickup.
That's an outstanding trem for a T Style guitar. I see one in my future... Thanks, as always, for the informative content...
Looks really cool, though having said that, I think it should be more in the price range of about 40 to 60 USD.
VAMOS ESPAÑA !!!!!!! 🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸 Viva España y sus guitarras
This system is really cool!!! I definitely like it!!!
But the “VT” on the trem arm is ugly as Hell!!!
I’d get a different trem arm. It just looks terrible!!
Ok. So people finally invented a trem for string thru body bridge guitars.
This looks killer and we are sold on the system but will wait for availability of a longer bar since for surf we kind of need that. The threaded arm part looks kind of Floydish so wondering if a standard Floyd arm would fit AND if longer arms already exist?
Nice. Looks like you have plenty of screw length for intonation. I'll bet you could put a 24" scale Mustang neck on there.
@TheDarrell_Braun or maybe not.
Pretty cool invention - reminds me a lot of the Dusenburg trem for the Gibson Les Paul style guitars.
Yes I’ve installed those Doozies and they work great!
Ooh yeah, that's a good shout. I forgot about those, always thought they looked really cool
Um... tape over the ground wire will prevent it from making contact with the bridge plate you do not want to do this, because you will have no string ground
Those are not compensated saddles, they are just adjustable.
This is a genius piece of engineering. Glad to see it hit the market at an affordable price.
So does it only flatten the strings/notes or can you pull up and sharpen as well? I think a good vibrato goes both above and below the pitch.
Because it is flush on the guitar body does it allow to change tunings without throwing out the set up ?
Impressive, helpful. May go with one on the Tele eventually.
Very cool. I like the option without the 'VT' on the arm. However, the price.... €250+ is crazy expensive. I can buy a used guitar with a bigsby for that.
The VT2 ND trem in this video is not available until June 2023. I just saw a video featuring the maker in a Premier Guitar at NAMM video. Both the VT2 and VT2 ND will be available, but the ND will cost more.
Interesting but very, very expensive mod: 1/2 of the guitar's price...really to much!!!!
An aesthetic improvement over the Stets Bar which can require neck angle adjustment.
Price? Looks great. Sounds brilliant.
Very expensive sadly.. more than 200$ 😢
was that finish damage by the ferrules there before? or did the install damage your guitar?
I wonder if these would work with like any other string through guitar
Hello Darrell,Love your show.
How do I get a whammy bar and the tuning machines for my old Donner DST -152
I looked all over the internet and found nothing! Do know the thread size of the Donner Whammy
bar. You are my last hope Dan
Darrell, or anyone else in this comment section, my dudes. I need your help. So I just got a PRS SE custom 22 and I am locking to switch the Chrome hardware to Gold hardware, which means getting a new bridge. but for the life of me I can't find the bridge size or right bridge. do you have any recommendations by any chance? Do Fender trems fit as direct replacements? I was also looking at the Flyod Rose Rail Tail, think that would work? any points in the right directions would be an absolute life saver. thanks!
Hi Darrell! Love your videos. I have a question that I think you might be able to answer. Will you take a look at this guitar at the beginning of this video and tell me if you know what it is? Slow Blues Guitar Backing Track in A. I've only ever seen it a couple of times and I'm very curious. Thank you for your time. Have a great day.
This thing is a joke. I saw the website and these are outrageously priced. For more than what this is I could make it in a garage! I'd sell them for around $50.00 each. Nothing special here. I only wonder how long these springs will take to wear out? It's a kitschy product born of kitschy ideas. The Telecaster as it is now known was never meant to have a tremolo which is why the Strat was invented. With the available tremolos out there I don't see why anyone would want one when the already durable and proven designs are more usable and functional.
I kind of feel like that is an overly elaborate mechanism to produce just a subtle vibrato. If you just want a bit of shimmer, something like the Gibson Vibrola, which is just a bent piece of metal, could easily be designed to go on a Telecaster without doing anything invasive, and the benefit would be its simple, fool proof design.
Tele-strater 👍 😁
Darrel, I'm surprised you didn't let us know what an absolute pita this thing is. I want to love it, but touch it and the guitar won't return to tune. I opened the thring thru holes to 3/16, and it still hangs up. All the videos show popping right on. I find it hard to believe anyone can put this on, set up the guitar, and use it. It's in the package waiting to go back. I think if I had a new build, I would route the string thru holes to a 1/4 rectangular route. I would only go as deep to leave about 1/4 thk where strings come thru the back. Then I think the springs being free would give a chance at tuning stability. Ack, i wanna keep it but cannot.
You should really stop to talk about "trem systems" or "tremolo systems" when you talk about vibrato systems. There are no guitars with pre-installed tremolo, but many guitars with a vibrato system. And sorry, the lame excuse "but Leo Fender called it so" is just a cop-out, because Leo never was a guitar player, and mistakes he made do not need to be repeated again and again and again.
In other videos on different channels when they installed this tremolo they had to drill two holes into the body of the guitar. I'm wondering if this is a new version of the trim from Vega? Also, other channels had much more difficulty in getting it turned up.
If VT modified the spring length, I would think this system would work on a semi-hollow
7:02 Ouch, that's a nice finish chip when hammering the ferrules out.
Score gently around the ferrule with an X-Acto or similar scalpel-type knife before removing. That should break any bond between the finish and the ferrule.
Gee, I don't know. So you gotta give up body thru strings for string through a bridge. That's a huge trade off of sound. It's a backwards step.
Looks very stiff.
I wonder if they make a version that would fit a Michael Kelly Mod Shop 55 Duncan
Looks like a great system but the wang bar looks like 50 accidents waiting to happen. I wonder if their standard bar will fit.
The angle between the fulcrum and the saddles decreases, and the tension of the string will decrease. When the string is plucked, more swinging energy will be consumed and the sustain will be shortened.
It seems the tremolo is very subtle, pitch change is minimal, not even a half step. I would suggest a way to bend the angles of the trem arm so that it is higher distance from the body, so you could push down more and get more pitch change. I did that with a cheap trem system, bent the bar in a vice to give it more height , to have more pitch variation. Of course, the more you can bend the pitch, the more chance of going out of tune. I wonder if those letters might be a hazard? But I love the simplicity, and the blade setup is very subtle.
Hey, since when you have that worn fender neck on your guitar fetish diy beauty? Nice upgrade though, this guitar has horrific history 😂
Wow, VT come up with a super whamming bar system and put the most ridiculous arm. Is there arm options?
I can tell which is the worse engineered tremolo it’s an overlord of music, biggest piece of crap going!
cool idea, though I absolutely hate how the arm looks, hopefully they use a standardized threading
This Trem system is more than the cost of a Squier
I like everything about the system except the company initials on the trem arm. If I buy one they will be gone.