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- Can this device REALLY change the guitar's tone? Let's find out!
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This is without a doubt the heaviest duty bridge setup I've ever seen!
Sustain and chime are really awesome on these guitars!
Enjoy :)
Definitely a wide body! A little too wide for me...😲
I absolutely love the sound! I can't even describe the tones I'm hearing but they are full, sharp and lots of depth.
Heavy bridges and awesome sustain are the enemy of resonance. They directly defeat the purpose of the resonator, by immobilizing the bridge, making it unlikely to significantly affect the electric sound.
Good sustain only happens because string vibration energy is reflected off of an almost immobile bridge and nut or fret. (If the bridge can't move much, little energy is transferred through it to the body, and most of the vibration energy is reflect off of it, right back into the string.)
Resonance is the enemy of sustain. Any frequencies that are easily transmitted into the neck wood or the body wood quickly disappear from the electric sound.
That's how you get dead spots on the neck. If your guitar actually resonates much at a particlar frequency, and you play a note with a fundamental close to that frequency, the energy at that frequency will be quickly absorbed into the wood, and lost from the electric sound. The note won't sustain as long (because the fundamental is usually the part that lasts longest), and the sound will be thinner. And if your guitar has two resonances an octave apart, it will be worse, because it will swallow the first two partials of that note and sound worse.
By and large, a more resonant body will make your low frequencies disappear faster from the electric sound. (Low frequencies are easier to transmit into the wood than high ones, which tend to bounce right off bridge and nuts and even frets. It takes less mass and rigidity to reflect high frequencies back into the string, for the same reason bass frequencies tend to go through walls more than midrange and high frequencies.)
That disappearance of bass frequencies may make the sound brighter, because it's losing bass.
If that's the effect you want, it's probably better just to have a light body made of cheap, light wood, not a hollow body with particular weird resonances. That will decrease your low frequency sustain, typically in a more even way.
But of course, people selling $3,000 guitars don't want you to actually understand what resonance is, and why you probably don't want it, much less that even if you do want it, a cheap light wood body probably sounds better.
Sustain like Nigel's guitar. You can go and get a bite and, waaaaahhh, you'd still be hearing that one.
@@lukegoffkat I know you can't describe the tones, but would you perhaps describe them as "full, sharp and lots of depth"?
Even though this probably wouldn’t be my cup of tea, I always love new ideas. Sometimes you have to stumble through a couple odd ideas before you hit genius. Great video Darrell.
Your right, not my cup of tea either but I love the way Darrell brings these new ideas to the channel.Very cool 😎
I thought I’d see Andre here lol
A magnetic pickup only responds to changes in the magnetic field which occurs when the metal strings are vibrating over the pickups, I don’t see how changing the volume of that back cavity changes anything it isn’t an element that influences the pickups up front.
@@bluwngyes exactly, if they had a piezo mic then the tone could change with the back adjustment, but I'm a bit confused what this does on standard magnetic pickups.
@@panmo2110 they are either dishonest and try to market a gimmick or ignorant and wasting energy and money in a technology that isn’t a thing.
I've watched a couple of Jasper's videos and I'm VERY skeptical. They talk about resonance as if they don't understand resonance, or think you don't (which may be true).
They say that a measure of how good an electric guitar sounds is how good it sounds uplugged. That's generally not true. Any sounds you hear acoustically are energy being lost from the strings, never to return, decreasing your sustain. (Once vibrations get into the body, they die rapidly because bending wood takes work and turns vibrations into heat due to internal friction in the wood.) That's why solid-body electric guitars are designed NOT to be very resonant, apparently including their guitars despite the rear cavity & resonator. The body is fairly heavy and rigid, with beams and a massive sustain block to keep the bridge from moving much, so that not much string energy is transmitted via the bridge.
They talk about adjusting the carbon fiber plate on the back as a way of tuning the cavity volume and thus its resonant frequency. That seems pretty weird because the important resonances for an electric guitar are mainly the body-and-neck bending modes, not a resonant air cavity like a woodwind instrument. The body-and-neck bending modes determine which vibrations can be transmitted more easily into the wood at the bridge (a tiny bit) or at the fret or nut (rather more). Tuning the flexing mode of the resonator and the air cavity is not likely to accomplish much to alter the electric sound.
They say they're hesitant to put up a demo video of the effects of adjusting the resonator because it may not come across on TH-cam. That' probably because it does not significantly affect the electric sound.
Yeah, even if it's a cool idea in concept I'm not about it. Also what happens when the screw for the back going to the bridge strips out from constantly adjusting it or the carbon fiber wears out and cracks from that same constand adjusting.
With the resonator in the back, how does one's body not negate the effect? I have a lot of cushioning in my belly.
I was wondering the same thing
I think just long as your belly is not made up of metal or steel, the effect is negligible… I don’t know
Yeah. I was wondering the same thing. I think the whole thing is kinda gimmicky. I didnt hear much of a difference. And the resonance can be changed anyways by closing or opening the vents. But you're right. Its going to have a big effect on it with your belly smashed up against it.
Get rid of the cushioning!
@@jasoncdebussy even a skinny player would still muffle the resonance.
I’m not a player just a listener and they both sounded awesome to my old ears. It does help when the someone playing knows what they are doing. I’m reading comments that the price is around the $3000.00 mark which would eliminate them from most people’s buying option.👍👍🇨🇦
The resonance is nice but I don't hear that much difference as it is.
But always a pleasure to see awesome innovative luthery brought to test ! Still love this format over the years! Cheers Darrell 👍🏻😃
You shouldn’t magnet pickups only respond to changes in the magnetic field and the only thing doing that are the vibrating metal springs. The back cavity has zero influence on the pickups also the body is essentially a solid body and the back cavity does nothing to the top of the guitar.
@@bluwng That’s not completely true. How exactly a string vibrates gives it its tonal characteristics As an example, the tone of a string is different if you pick next to the bridge compared to picking next to the fingerboard. This is because doing so causes a difference in how the string wiggles.
Different bodies can have same effect. Some of the string’s energy is transferred to the body making it vibrate. The vibrations in the body will cancel some overtone frequencies in the string and amplify others changing how it wiggles and thus changing what the pickups hear.
But let’s be clear about this: the effect is subtle and I’m not sure that the small change in the cavity size on these guitars can really do much. I couldn’t hear anything significant.
That said, the assertion that bodies have zero effect on tone is simply not true.
@@FossilFishy unfortunately this is not true... It has been proven multiple times that in electric guitars, the only thing that matters is the strings and the pickup. Look up jim lil's videos
@@FossilFishy physics goes a long way. Your first statement on vibration isn’t anything different from what I said and doesn’t apply as far as what energy goes to the body it is not applicable and negligible. We must base things on what we think but actual physical fact. The string vibration that influences the pickup is Transverse what goes into the body is longitudinal and has no influence on the strings transverse movement.
@@bluwng Fossil Fishy is right that neck and body vibrations (mostly due to the flexibility of the neck) can affect the electric sound, a little bit, and that's why the solid body electric guitar was invented, to minimize that effect. The effect is generally negative, in that any vibrations that get into the body (or neck) are lost from the string, never to return, so resonant frequencies fade faster than other frequencies. (Most guitarists seem to think that resonances make the guitar louder right off the bat, and it does acoustically, but not electrically... in the electric sound you only hear certain mostly low frequencies fading faster than they ought to.)
That said, I don't think the resonators on these guitars do much. The main resonances that might matter a little to the electric sound are about flexing of the neck and body, and it looks like these guitars are effectively solid bodies, with enough rigidity and mass that the cavity in the back is probably irrelevant.
Seems like it would be great to have an acoustic sensor inside the resonator to pick up the actual resonance. Bet that could sound awesome!
They have a model called the Elmore that does exactly what you describe, and it sounds better than you can imagine.
Yeah. An electric guitar sound is essentially a metal string vibrating across a magnetic pickup. The guitar materials matter somewhere between not at all and almost not at all. If you want to highlight your guitar's materials, resonance, or acoustics, you need a mic, acoustic, or piezo type pickup. So few manufacturers seem to understand this.
@@GenesisMuseum , Jasper has a model called the Elmore, that may be very close to what you are describing. There are reviews available on youtube from other content creators if you are interested.
I think an unamplified sound clip would be a better analysis. The fist thing I listen for with electric guitars is how they sound WITHOUT amplification.
@@youropionmattersnot Probably right. Which is why an acoustic device on an electric-only guitar is misplaced.
There MIGHT be a small change in sound but by the time you put it through some effects and put it in a mix, it will %1000 no longer matter, if it ever even did in the first place. buy an equalizer or better yet, use your tone knob
Love those guitars !! Made by a phenomenal luthier and friend of mine glad you got a chance to review them. Tony’s new take on guitar design is one of a kind
Not a big difference between loosened and tightened, but the elements and specs makes this guitar a nice instrument for it's own and it's always nice to see innovative ideas.
Yeah the difference between the two when strummed was about the same as the difference when you pick half an inch closer to the bridge
The whole "resonator" idea is a bit pointless as we do not hear that much of it, same way the "vents"are pretty pointless....I mean how much air is moved when tightened? AND it vents through the re-string holes too....Seems plenty of ventilation for that tiny bit of air....
new innovations in electric guitar are always welcome! like the guitar with those floating pickups that you hold in your hand. not every idea is going to be perfect. but we have to keep evolving the instrument.
Awesome! Thanks for bringing these reviews to us.
Awesome clean tone!!!
Very Cool, Thankyou. Stunning Guitars and Playing. Cheers
I think position 4 on the HSS is one of the nicest clean tones I have heard. The p-90 sounded like a p-90. The build looks fantastic and I’m sure it was a pleasure to play.
As for the resonator feature i don’t really see how that would make any difference to tone and it didn’t. Particularly with that massive metal block even if the body vibrations were strong enough to effect the frequency of the strings on the rebound that block would stop them dead. It’s a cool idea and maybe placing a piezo on the carbon fiber with a preamp and a blend would actually make it “resonate” but it’s for people who will swear that they hear a difference based on how much it cost them.
They sound fantastic 👌🏾
That "resonator" feature is...well...just goofy. No difference in sound and, as for the "venting", unless the cavity is air-tight(and I'm sure it is not), not sure what use those vents actually are...other than goofy.
The vents would give it more of an acoustic sound.
I really enjoyed the new design and sounds that both guitars have. Really love the look as well. Keep up the great showing and demonstrations.
Hi Darrell, Very interesting concept. Loved the tones, quite unique in their own right. Thanks for a great review. Cheers ✌️🎸
Great bunch of guys at Jasper. They make wonderful guitars.
Man, you bring some of the coolest designs to light. I am curious though if it is sturdy enough for the road. The overall cost of these is quite surprising. I am a simple guy when it comes down to guitar. You are making a career of it. I don't think I personally need this guitar, that's just me. I think real world applications would tell the bigger story. Take that ax on the road and see how it performs after 10 gigs. I appreciate what you do man. It's really involved and informative. Thanks.
Great tones!!!!!!!!!!
Nice tone!
Really enjoyed the deep rich tones of both guitars.
Really good family of people at Jasper Guitars. They're all about the player. I highly suggest checking them out further!!
I like the innovation but I didn't notice any really significant difference with the resonator adjustments. To me, this guitar has a harsh sound - it's lacking warmth and overly bright. not on my shopping list. Thanks Darrell for the great demo!
Yep
I have played one at their shop and these are fantastic guitars.
No
OMG, $3K That's way out of my price range for sure, but I sure love the sound of this guitar.
Very interesting video Darrell. Thanks for the link too.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 great tones, the resonator makes a lot of difference.......awesome guitars!
Awesome!!! Thanks.
That's awesome 😎 I can see tremolo possibilities with that massive bridge.....a tremolo within that honking chunk of bridge... maybe a piezo pickup in the cavity of the resonator... I like these.... guitar 😎
That's what I was thinking, a good quality Piezo to work with the resonator. That would be amazing, but I'm guessing one of us here will try it out just because we can!
Yes, the trem design is on my bench. That will be out later this year. And for the acoustic guitar people, the 1841 model is for you.
Sounds very sweet.
Loosened seemed to ring out a little more, but it’s subtle. As some commenters are saying, maybe have an acoustic sensor, or even a microphone in the body to better pick up the difference since it’s got that grill, but there’s no pickup for it.
I couldn't hear much difference between the tight and loose back, but I loved the overall sound of them. That beefy bridge is fantastic, and probably the best thing about the guitar.
Its a cool shop. I jam with my bass alongside a friend of mine that owns two different style Jasper guitars and they work great for blues music.
These guys are top shelf. Not only do they build awesome guitars, they also provide us with the best luthier services in the Green Bay area.
They sound great, and the sustain is amazing, but I can't tell the difference between loose and tight.
Thanks for the introduction of these guitars. Not my cup of tea, but I'm shure they have a place in modern music.. thanks.
Wow... great sound....
Like you, I wasn't blown away by the tonal change of the resonator. I can easily see how they could heighten the effect and I'm surprised they didn't suss it out.
There was nothing about this video that didn't blow my mind. Especially amazing tones. Love to see products from North America get exposure too. Canada also has some amazing instrument makers. Thanks for sharing, Darrell
Thanks well made guitars.
nice review
Cool! I wish I would’ve thought of that in a dream
Great review and demo. I really like the tulipesque shape of the HSS model, it reminds me a bit of the old Tokai Talbos. I was very surprised that I did hear a difference, but the only difference that I heard was that it had a slightly muted, sitarish sound when tightened. I'm not sure if that's worth the extra effort.
These are made in Green Bay, WI Close to where I live! I work at another music store in Green Bay as a repair tech, we do business with them occasionally. I was just there a few weeks ago, if you visit their store chances are they will give you a shop tour! The staff is super friendly. They make pretty rad guitars too!
Fair play to them for trying something new - but personally I couldn't tell the difference. Also I'm sure once you've set it once you'll never be bothered to change it.
Best sounding axe that you've reviewed to date. (at least on the clean tones)
I NEED that Body shape-but on Bass!
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Très belle guitare !
Good sound.
Enjoyed that thank you.
For me, the difference between the adjustments of the resonator were clear on the single strummed cord - definitely more body to the sound with the bolt loosened.
Would’ve been nice to hear some clean tones on the hum bucker, cheers.😎
Man, I heard a world of difference between the two resonator settings!
Might just be how I'm listening, totally raw on my phone's speakers, but it jumped right out to me.
I come from a bit of a unique musical background, though...I'm actually a trumpet player, so tone for me is a whole different entity.
Either way, cool stuff!
Tokai Talbo to the next level. Gorgeous tones.
This is pretty cool.
Thanks Darrell! Keep em coming!. Btw. Have you tried the Hyper switch from Seymour Duncan? I just got one and love it!
Would be neat to hear it played unplugged
Wow, that is unbelievably chimy. Not sure “Uncomfortably Numb” would be improved with this amount of resonance.
Nice to see unique Jasper designs in the days of so many traditional shapes. They both look good sound good, though I'm partial to the Olam. The loosened back plate on the Jasper had a bit more sustain and airiness I felt, I'd leave it loose for sure.
Damn man you're good 👌
I don't understand the logic of this design. It seems like the enormous heavy sustain block is going to greatly reduce the effect of the resonator... immobilizing the bridge reduces energy transfer from the strings to body via the bridge. (If the bridge can't move at all, all the string vibration energy hitting bounces off, back into the string, giving you sustain. If it can't move much, almost all the energy reflects off and stays in the string. That's how any guitar gets sustain... most of the energy is reflected right back into the string at the bridge and the nut or fret.)
I was expecting that the adjustment would increase or decrease coupling between the bridge and the resonator, while simultaneously doing the opposite to the firmness of the connection of the bridge to the mass/rigidity of the guitar body. (That is, it would let the bridge vibrate the resonator at one extreme or lock it down to the body & sustain block at the other.)
Even the mass of the bridge itself (with no sustain block) will limit the amount of energy transmitted via the bridge, which is why acoustic guitars do not have heavy metal bridges.
Do agree with you!
That Deja Vudoo (P90) reminds me Yamaha's Revstar! Nice tone!
The single P90 is the Deja model. The Vudoo is 2 humbuckers.
This is an interesting concept for an acoustic guitar where it would make a big difference.
Have you seen the Riversong acoustics? That's the kind of thing I though this was going to be. It's basically an acoustic guitar with a through neck and a floating top. The top doesn't have to be strong enough to resist the string tension in the usual way, so it can be lighter.
Finally, something as innovative as the Strat. A beautiful guitar tones.
What? The "innovation" made literally no sound difference... talking about guitar innovation? We have multiscale, true temperaments frets... you know, things that actually change the sound...
Pulled those from Tony, huh? His shop is about a half hour from my house. I remember when he gave me a tour of the shop and was sharing some of the secrets of that guitar with me when it was in its infancy. Love that you were able to show it off. It is from a great shop with great people.
It's innovations like this that make me want to study to be a luthier.
you have to admire all the time and effort obviously put into that headstock design...
Not sure I heard much of a difference.. but I can appreciate the creativity, quality and uniqueness.
I love creativity and uniqueness I bet Kieth Richards would appreciate one if these kind of sounds like my 72 thinline Telecaster Its got nice clean tome be interesting cranked to the gills on a stack. I think we will see much much more from this company, awesome👍👍👍
God Sounding and a strong sustain !
I like the Vox Teardrop headstock
This is a very interesting idea of creating an ability to change or find the true resonance of the guitar, I wonder what is possible with it, and if you change pickup’s ? We all know the sound influences of porting speaker cabinets , I have no doubt this will affect the tone in certain areas of the neck, when you find the resonant notes it will shine
Thank you Darell, that was different. Really didn't think much on the back part or carbon fiber, but it’s a new idea tried! That's what it is all about, sorry I don't know if when it's ever possible to tease, but like the guitar, you never know, until you try. Cheers.
Looks a bit like Gibson Theodore! Sounds fantastic!
My favorite setting for these if it means anything was. On the white guitar, position 3, and loosened
Nice chimey sound, and interesting sound engineering. The body shape reminds me of the Somnium.
Yes...the Somnium is ugly, too. At least these sound good.
How do you know we love guitars? When we're checking out it's back side.
Definitely a cool guitar with a cool concept.
I really enjoy your guitar reviews.
You should consider doing a review on "cream guitars".
Very nice sounding guitars. I fail to hear a difference with this resonator though, a turn of a tone knob or raising/lowering a pickup would bring tons more difference
Love the overall design of both of these guitars. They are absolutely beautiful. I also always love seeing beautifully machined parts like those.
Being a fairly experienced speaker builder though, im not exactly sure of the point of the technology though. Thinking it through using my adjacent knowledge, i dont think itll make enough difference to pay any more for the "technology".
Maybe they can use this model as just a waypoint on their way to coming up with something that would make a difference noticable enough to warrant using this amount of modification and added cost.
I love to see experimentation. I dont like seeing added "features" with very little benefit. I feel like they pushed form too far out ahead of function because they thought the form just looked so cool. And it really does... but...
This reminds me allot of the back that flaxwood guitars have.
In light of it being a resonator, you should have tried the Elmore model with the acoustic pickup system.
Hey Darrell, how about some B.T.O." Lowland Fling" on that fancy git fiddle!
Very neat concept. You really find some amazingly original instruments. Cool.
I don’t know what that thing is, but you look so happy about it
Thank you.
Good looking, seemingly well-built guitars. I like the quirky designs. That resonator panel seems like a gimmick, though. I’d be lying if I said I could hear the difference. Maybe it’s more apparent with different tones?
I just love that headstock…..honest😏
.. whoa .. the bridge is 'next level' indeed 😬
I would have to play one to get excited about it. The proof is in the pudding. I know the chances of me getting my hands on one is slim to none.
sounds a lot like a tele in that position 2 and 4 . I bet this thing is great for praise and worship music.
Cool guitar. That bridge had 4 screws holding what looks like a brass end cap in the bottom, so is it actually solid or hollow? Either way it's a nice beefy design. Ever try a 2Tek bridge? Anyway, great guitar. I like to see innovation!
When I want an extra day of freshness I just put on an extra shirt or sweatshirt I was talking about your commercial
There's definitely a difference in the tight vs loose tone, subtle but it's there. Parker put piezos in their bridge in the 90's alongside magnetic pickups, I'm surprised there's not something like that here, if you're going for new sounds, why not more. At least they're nice guitars to begin with. I think a test against a solidbody would have been good to hear, since that would be the most unique difference it brings to the table, moreso that the resonator adjustment.
Interesting idea, but I think it may be better suited for acoustic guitars. Imagine being able to change the pitch, or tonality of an acoustic instrument. Guitar sounds a little dead? Tighten up and hear it ring like a vintage Martin.
That p90 is outfreakinrageous..
Probably would sound cool with a piezo that could be blended
I would imagine these guitars cost 1k or more but coming from a 20 year player there is a difference I heard especially on the lower strings but not enough to make me choose this over some other model and brand of guitar.
Cool idea in theory, I'd like to see others take this idea and run with it, I love making my instruments more versatile.
The A , B test of resonator sustain should probably be done with and without resonator not tight or loose! Maybe there is more sustain both ways . Is there a measurable difference in sustain or not, that is the question. 2 cents
If it comes with the coin, does it have a space to put the coin in?