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There are certain special moves in Smash that I think we all wish would disappear.
This is their story.
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Tracklist:
Big Blue | Super Smash Bros. Melee
Bomb Man Stage | Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Duel Zone | Super Smash Bros.
Final Destination | Super Smash Bros.
Hard Man Stage | Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Humoresque of a Little Dog | Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Icicle Mountain | Super Smash Bros. Melee
King K. Rool Ship | Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Ocarina of Time Medley | Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Rainbow Cruise | Super Smash Bros. Melee
Rolling Hills A | Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Super Hoop | Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Wood Man Stage | Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - เกม
Melee pk flash reminds me of the bold and bash scene from Spongebob
Ness: I call it PK Flash
Alex.exe: More like, it belongs in the Trash
XD
Love that quote!
Alright. I wasn't the only one to think this.
Ness was so terrible in the earlier games. And 64 Link’s recovery is like Little Mac’s double jump lmao.
Pk flash will never be good.i. every game pk flash is useless
@@brandonwilliams6119 link in 64 was beta little mac
12:41 “First up is w o o f.”
SwigtimeFoxy lol
SwigtimeFoxy I was about to do that
Ｗｏｏｆ
@@reallinglong W o o f . . .
wood
3:08 - "please kill me"...... *PK* Thunder..... "P"lease "K"ill me..... i thing you're on to something there
🤭
kinda streching it there
@@muffledpotat0245 "Coincidence? I THINK NOT!!"
Giygas Illuminati confirmed
PK Kill Me
Fun fact: A lot of people were expecting Metal Slash to be helpful in Spirit battles against guys like Metal Sonic it Dr. Wily, but if you have a spirit battle with a metal opponent and play as hero, the chances of Metal slash appearing is severely reduced. So by the time you get it, you might not be ready to use it because it’s extremely rare.
However, though, if an opponent becomes metal from a Metal Box or the Metal Shift effect, it makes Metal Slash more likely to appear than normal.
It also doesn't help that Hero was released about a year after everyone got bored of single player.
Actually im pretty sure metal slash _never_ shows up in metal spirit battles as a balancing mechanic
@@isaiah3680 Nope. Not the case. If the opponent is metal by default, Metal Slash appears very rarely. If they become metal through Metal Shift, Metal Slash then becomes very likely to appear. It's odd, but it's how it works.
Zai I tested it out right when he came out. I’m fairly certain you can get it...but it is absurdly unlikely to appear, especially in situations where it would help. Dr. Wily is still a pain.
Heavenly light is the best move in the game.
For trophy rush.
This guy knows what's up
I had a custom Palutena with that move. It has uses in free for alls, like stealing KOs, and doing a ton of damage to two opponents who are fighting each other on a platform above you.
@mrbinkey04 One word.
**L A G**
69th like
Had us in the first half not gonna lie
I feel like he should've mentioned that melee bowser's up special is a great out of shield option
i mean it is one of his 2 viable moves
Beyblade
Beyblade
Let it rip!
Is one of his actually decent moves, is very weird that he mentioned it. It has plenty of applications
@@miitopianlife6180 Rob Side-b
Legit probably his best move both in neutral, and for mobility. Just super useful in general
''players dont use wolf up special'' my man what??
Hes never played Wolf dont worry
I think he means offensively, (hopefully)
@@brokenpromises-.....707 i use it to kill. It's his only kill option the opponent won't expect at medium range.
@@sephiroth7655 true but unless your playing elite smash that ain't gonna work also you can just spam smash attacks cuz one of them will definitely hit
@@brokenpromises-.....707 footstool up b works oos and kills very early
The Ness “please kill me” shirt better be a DLC costume for him to wear.
🤣
PK Kill me!
Atleast PK Flash is strongest Projectile in Melee even stronger than Samus's Charge Shot
I mean, Bowser's up b even in Melee is a good out of shield option and one of his actually usable moves. Recovery-wise, granted.
Bowser's grounded up b in Melee is the only thing that makes him somewhat playable. It's the only fast move he has to get people of him and it can even kill. The aerial version sucks for recovery but can do a ton of damage if you connect it well. All in all, it's easily his best special move.
Bowser has 8 frames of jump squat. No one has 7. Also his get up attack from ledge is his next best move. It’s safe to say he’s bad lol
The move was also nice to grab ledge when you preform it on stage
Best move in his kit
SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE e n
6:33 Zelda sucks, but sheik is cool! Sheiks worst special: down special that turns her into Zelda. It sucks!
Awesome xD
Well thankfully that one is gone now as they’re separate characters since Sm4sh.
Shadow Doof yeah she’s never been the best but I still love playing as her
There are some people who are best with Zelda
Actually, in brawl I thought it the other way around
Zelda’s melee down special is broken tho. It brings her up the tier list
cpu's had no clue how to deal with heavenly light it is hilarious i thought it was broken
The CPU is just so questionable at times. Why did the CPU Captain Falcon just let me keep using Rollout on him? XD
The captain falcon CPU in melee is programmed to almost always approach with a special move.
Gotta love CPU stupidity especially with Luigi in Melee
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is heavenly light broken in trophy rush?
@@blanketfort5695 ya it is a weak hitbox and breaks the box almost instantly
5:56 Bowser’s UpB in melee does suck as a recovery move, but it’s arguably the best out of shield option in the game
Also deals good damage against Master and Crazy Hands but if you connect all hitboxes.
I disagree with wolf up b.Wolf’s up b kills and it can be a good mix up.Also it has barley any ending lag.It also hits below the edge if you time it correctly.That’s all I had say to every thing else I agree with and the video was very well done.
I also like to use it when my opponent tries to juggle me sometimes as it stops your momentung and against some characters who are floaty that means while you dont get hit by their attack, they will still be in range to get hit by it when you dash down into them. + sometimes side-b wont help you as it is easily predicted and depending on your opponent and their skill recovering lower can safe you too
@Tucker Snow But not lag.it :(
It's also super important in his recovery game. Because side-b can't snap to ledge, some characters are really good at punishing it.
@@Xrelent it can snap to ledge if you position it right. yes without practice you usully land on the stage but you cn grab the ledge if you dont do the "claw" at the end yet because Wolf doesnt grab it during the end lag of the move (and if positioned wrong not even after it and just drop)
also wolf up b spikes at the start
I disagree with Little Mac's Up-Special. Sure it's terrible for recovering, but it has frame 1 invinciblity, is a frame 3 attack, and kills really well. Smash 4 Mac used Up B all the time for killing as you could combo into it from stuff like Jab and D-Tilt. It doesn't deserve to be alongside Mac's Neutral B.
I agree. But as a recovery option, probably the worst in the game. Similar to how melee bowser’s up b isn’t terrible unless it’s for recovery.
@@Ryan_Austin I think Doc has a worse recovery overall, mac has a better up special but doc has a better side b
Kirby
Doc also has his down b, but ya his recovery could be worse. It’s close
*_I T I S D O E S N ' T_*
@I am Chara What? I was just saying that the person who made the actual comment said "It is doesn't"
Ok So as a wolf main, I definitely have to disagree with some of the things you said about wolfs up special. Yes, It has bad range, but that’s the only thing that makes it worse than the average up special. You said it wasn’t used much for recovery, but for professional players it’s actually the go to recovery option with side special being used more as a mix up. Side special arguably isn’t better than up-special. It is fast and has better horizontal range, but it doesn’t snap the ledge, and it has a hurt box that travels one frame ahead of the hit box, so it can be beat out. I’m guessing you’re looking at it from more of a casual player’s perspective, on which case, the pick is completely understandable.
Very true.
I think you mean woof...
I made comment just like this
As a "woof" main myself, i completely agree with everything you said, and its true too. Recovering below the edge with up b is safer
i agree and i have played wolf twice
*Jigglypuff players using rollout offstage or near ledge:* "Suicide is badass!"
Half of these moves: Powerful, but "so slow youd never use them"
Me, breaking shields and then using those moves:
good strategy
Gotta admit Alex, you really missed the mark on some of these moves.
Melee:
- Jigglypuff's Sing: The move can be cancelled by grabbing the ledge, and multiple hits refresh the target's sleep timer. This means she can infinitely sleep people on the ledge and time people out easily. Sing Stalling/Infinite was banned in competitive Melee.
- Bowser's Whirling Fortress: Arguably the best out of shield option in the entire game, and easily Bowser's best move. It's not a good recovery move, but it seems like you judged the move entirely on that utility.
Mewtwo's Confusion: Despite not operating as a reflector, it is a good ledge stall option. Getting too close to a Mewtwo using the move at the ledge will trigger a glitch and teleport the opponent below the stage. Not the best move, but every option should be noted when judging a move.
Brawl:
Yoshi's Down B: I may be mistaken but can't it grab the ledge? If so like in future installments, it would've been a solid recovery mixup option. Recovery high, then quickly fall and grab the ledge, providing a hitbox on the way down.
I heartily disagree with using a bad character's bad move in this list. It defeats the purpose and is self explanatory. You could easily say Ganon has the worst specials in the entire series and be correct. It just doesn't make for an interesting video when it feels like you pick on a few bad characters.
Sm4sh:
Little Mac's Up B: Similarly to Melee Bowser, the move is terrible as a recovery tool. However it acts as a kill confirm out of Down Tilt and KOs relatively early.
Custom Moves in general were under-explored due to their lack of balance and it is incredibly difficult to pinpoint the worst specials of the worst designed moves. It feels like a copout with how many specials are in the game, and you decide to go with Customs instead, but the specials you chose are actually horrific so you get a pass there.
Ultimate:
Wolf's Up B: The move is actually a really great attack. It is incredibly difficult to mess with due to the insane knockback on it. How many times have you seen someone get hit by it and get sent flying horizontally straight to the blastzone? It's not uncommon for it to accidently kill opponent's trying to mess with your recovery.
As for Judge and Command Select, moves with RNG elements should be judged on the average result of said move. With Hero, if you see Accelarattle and Metal Slash on the same menu, you're never going for Metal Slash and will always pick the better move - bringing the average usefulness of the move up. For Judge, the move has the capability to steal games early and easily, and when the average number deals decent damage, the move is in whole, pretty good.
Conclusion: Overall a decent list, but there are a couple glaring issues with how moves were judged. Some moves were chosen because it's a bad move on a bad character (an obvious and boring answer). Others felt like they weren't researched well enough, and characters that were featured multiple times could've been replaced easily. Looking forward to next video!
Thank you for yelling at him since I am the laziest person ever made (here is a like for my appreciation)
@@rarebeed2359
Thats... actually some really good points there.
@@ThundagaT2 I'm glad I got at least some good ones lol
I almost post that Melee Jiggly's Up-B can be Ledge Cancelled. It's a Trick that sometimes Hungrybox uses in competitive plays (As long as I knew), without sing stalling.
Sorry if I messed up something, I still trying to write and speak english properly..
Him: Jigglypuff sing is bad in melee
Me: "looks at tournaments banning ledge cancel sing jiggly" a yes indeed bad enough so it was basically ban
Still bad tho
Lamine Dosso no
Also you can confirm up air rest at like 0 in melee
@@tonyblock721 you're better off trying to land a random rest at that point. It's just as risky and actually rewards you for landing it
@@angrypepe7615 Wtf are you talking about? If you miss up air it's no big deal, if you miss rest you eat a big punish. This is so stupid lmao
Melee Bowser’s up-b is actually an amazing move, one of his only good moves. It’s one of the best out of shield options in the game, and honestly the only way Bowser can get out of pressure
AlexEXE: PK Flash
Subtitles: TeA cAke CrAsH
Tea Cake Freeze!
We gamers in 1999 : OMG THIS GAME IS AMAZING WE CAN PLAY WITH SAMUS MARIO YOSHI DK AND OTHERS !! THIS IS THE BEST GAME IN THE WORLD !!!!
We gamers in 2020 : Yoshi's projectiles are garbage , too slow , too much lag , easily punishable.
We completely miss the point we had years ago and thats sad af
No i still love playing the game casually with my friends for fun. But when I'm playing it competitively this type of stuff matters. The most important thing here Is when I'm playing for fun or not. The feeling of playing as our favorite Nintendo characters is still there friend.
12:21
Heavenly Light has one purpose.
2 words.
TROPHY. RUSH.
A few things to reconsider:
Yoshi 64 up b is actually a great edgeguarding tool
Bowser melee up b is his best attack
Falcon brawl arial side b is a broken spike
Yoshi brawl down b is a good shield break tool
Palutena heavenly light has a broken edgeguarding windbox when guarding the ledge from below
Yeah, Bowser's up b is the best out-of-shield option in the game
IF your on the ground in the air it sucks
bowbowbowser
Hence the term "out of shield option"
@@KirbCakesEvie I'm just saying the recovery is bad, not to move
Indeed Ness's PK Flash is pretty strong but hard to hit. So it balances move
5:00 You Didnt Have To Do Ness Like That 💀💀💀
4:28, PJiggles said it
WE
DON'T
USE
ROLLOUT
Jigglypuff when she uses her rollout: *I want to commit stop living*
Fun Fact:
The reason why Game and Watch was dealt 14% when rolling the 1 was due to the 1v1 damage multiplier, normally, he indeed deals himself 12%
5:57 funny you should say Bowser's up b is bad. Off the stage it is easily an awful recovery, but its an excellent move for out of shield use and has continued to be since bowser's introduction
I love how all the bad smash 64 moves are up specials
13:25 It doesn't even jablock!
Bowser’s Up-B is actually one of his only good moves. It’s useless as a recovery tool, but it comes out frame 5, is good shield pressure, and is a solid kill move on floaty characters.
Alex.exe: "Every character in Smash Bros has Special moves"
Min-Min: "I'm about to ruin this man's whole career"
Techniclly she has 2, just not as many as the norm,
@@joey5745
Technically three.
can't wait for aerials next lmao
I should've made a joke about little mac.... but the comment section already stole that, (I'm pretty sure that's the only reason I have likes so thanks guys)
we already know whos gonna take the whol aerial list.. cough cough little mac cough cough
little macs aerials are top tier if you know to to use them lol
Badoom Ching
@@elias_rammah ikr there so good
@@earl379 true I just mean other aerials, tho little Mac will be 90% of the video but yeah
Jigglypuffs si-
Jigglypuffs spi-
Oh My god i cannot even say it.
Jigglypuffs Spinphony.
10:41 Jigglypuff’s simp
What?!?! Sing in Melee is really good, it is grabable (you can grab the ledge) and if your oponent is close to the ledge, he will also sleep which helps a bit.
You can also do a broken infinite with it soooooooo yeah it's pretty usable
Merfolk Surprise but that’s banned so it’s not really working
14:10 Hitting people offstage with Kaclang:
Am I a joke to you?
"Every character has a special move"
Min min: allow me to introduce myself
Wolf Up-B is used quite often, and Sing is frequently used by Hungrybox. I'm surprised BJR cannon wasn't in the Smash 4 category.
I'm glad to see that there are basically no "useless" Smash Ultimate specials. Even for special moves like Kirby's hammer flip, there are uses for them that weren't present in other smash games.
Yoshi Egg roll
@@ducklett01god It's true, I didn't consider yoshi's egg roll 3 years ago, however egg roll DOES have uses! Although some niche ones. It can help Yoshi stall on walled stages, and there's a shield-break setup off platform tech chases that can break a full shield.
@@staticchimera6371 if a move is niche and it's niche is stall it's not a good move and the shield break set up can be jumped over
@@ducklett01god You cannot jump out of a tech chase
Wolf's up b in ultimate is pretty good and bowser's up b in melee is really good on the ground at least
Hold up! I can angle Bowser's fire breath in Brawl? It's been 12 years and I've never heard of this.
Metal Slash is actually slightly useful. I heard that it stall you in the air a bit meaning you can get another chance of getting Zoom.
4:11 lol that move is actually really good with ledge camp set ups, as seen in hbox vs zain on numerous occasion, honestly its kinda an easy mistake to make so maybe tell puff to take off the please kill me shirt for the i am god tier shirt
0:27
Sheik: UAH!
Fox: Come on!
Respect to that falcon cpu trying to falcon punch read
14:45 I guess you could say Mr game and watch’s judge hammer with a 9 literally is, Flat out devastating.
Ness is pooping
*Calls 1-800-kill-me*
Edit the second: This is literary the worst moves video but only just specials
correct me if i'm wrong but Bowser's up b in melee is probably one of his best moves, only on the ground. I agree that it sucks offstage but when used on the ground it's a great get off me tool and can be used to grab the ledge
13:46 something I've learned from maining Chrom is that Kaclang's duration is just SLIGHTLY shorter than the full chargeup time for Flare Blade. If Hero uses that move at any percent, even 0, they simply die.
I legit gimped somebody with Metal Slash once and I haven't laughed so hard in or for months.
Custom moves in smash 4 were awesome even if some werent that effective. Would be cool to see it brought back
Yeah the thing i don't like is DLC Fighters didn't have Custom Specials and it really made me very mad It's really unfair
"Kaclang is useless."
Albino: *ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT*
Sheik's chain, though it is good for recovering (in Brawl). But you already kinda included it (the Melee version).
Also, another bad thing about Brawl Ganondorf's up-special is that if it connects, the opponent can always do an aerial on him immediately afterwards, as it deals so little hitstun and knockback.
The only times you would want to use Kaclang in a competitive setting is following:
- If you can kill with it and the opponent is on their last stock (or you are sure that you can survive the punishment afterwards)
- If you can win a time-out situation not against another Hero (because Metal Slash and maybe Heal)
- If another Hero uses Kamikazee, though you can still be punished afterwards, potentially losing the stock
- In Team Battles, as a distraction tool, for stalling, for prolonging your teammate's attacks, etc.
Yeah, Kaclang was clearly designed for free-for-alls.
Sheik can actually recover from the ledge with her Side B in Brawl?
"every smash bros character has special moves" *cries in min-min*
Well up-b is one
Grounded up-B is probably one of Bowser’s best move in melee
2:05 Yoshi tosses An *H A E E G*
Wolf's Up Special and Side Special have the EXACT same startup, 18 frames.
Also Side Special does not sweetspot the ledge, and the hitbox comes out 1 frame after Wolf arrives to his destination (meaning it loses to ANY active hitbox).
Up Special is by far a better recovery move for Wolf against opponents who know the matchup. At least combined with his great airspeed and DJ, Wolf shouldn't have issues making it back to stage with Up Special.
well it travels faster
I really enjoyed watching you tear apart each character for For how shitty their special were in certain games. Got a lot of good laughs out of it and this is legit rewatchable content here, I wanna see you tear apart more characters maybe even the DLC characters when all DLC is finished.
I laughed soo hard at Ness's pk flash lol XD
Fun fact: PK flash is not only the one special Ness actually gets in earthbound, but it's also a STATUS MOVE. It can however be upgraded later on which adds to the list of statuses: "often destroys enemies" but I've never had that happen. So basically, this is reflected in smash by being basically luck based to hit it, but (at least in later games) really strong when you do. In both earthbound and smash, not really the option you should ever go for.
@@mossdude9594 I think Lucas's PK Flash is Mixing of All Ness's PK Flash but when you think about PP Cost its really better than Ness's also in Earthbound lots of Enemy Resist Against PK Flash but in Mother 3 almost every Enemy weak against it.
I think I’d only disagree with Warlock Punch. Because of its armour it can surprise people approaching you since most people’s natural redaction is to attack.
With armour? See ya.
But the rest I absolutely agree with. Well done!
Fair enough!
It does take an entire second to come out though. Plus the entire game plan when fighting Ganondorf is to stay away from him when he attacks.
I mean the only way to surprise ppl with warlock punch if your on lag or the person your facing as garbage at the game
:)
That's true, the problem is that actual competitive players don't fall for this. They know how to get around and punish warlock punch better then the back of their hand. Mostly because it's just very easy once you know what to do. Plus, since the attack is so incredibly slow, it gives your opponent an eternity to get out of the way. Plus ganondorf has better options then the use warlock punch. In Ultimate, warlock punch only kills slightly earlier then his forward smash which comes out faster, has better range, and in general is just a better move.
You can watch any top wolf set (tweek, zackray, CDK etc) and see that they do use his up b to recover quite often. Side b doesn't always snap to ledge, leaving you in free fall for a fraction of a second, which can be devastating and punishable. Side b is used more as a or if you need a good horizontal recovery. It is also more predictable because it only has 3 angles that can be used to recover compare to up b which can be used at basically any angle.
I love the improvements made to script writing and to the overall presentation with your voice.
You sound a lot more disappointed in these moves which is great to see and ups the viewing experience!
“Landing a Sing in 64 at 0% is useless because even Rest doesn’t kill that early.” *laughs in 64’s hitstun and combos *
I haven't even started the video and I just know Kirby is going to be on this list somewhere. Poor little puffball can't catch a break from his dad.
14:51 Well, while 2 & 3 do suck, they can be very (kinda) useful when you time them right.
For 2, it could be a near life saver, and for 3, it can combo into down-smash, or a back air.
I think kaclang is a pretty underrated move. If free for all, it’s pretty great bc if someone’s waiting to hit you by charging an attack, someone else will hit them. Also, it can be a great time out move because it just doesn’t let your opponent hit you
14:35 you may have took more there because of 1v1 multiplier?
6:30 “on the opposite side of Zelda is sheik”
-Alex 2020
5:57 Bowser’s Up Special is s good move, one of his best. It’s not good at recovery, but it’s an instant out-of-shield option that keeps him safe, has multi-hit, and deals decent damage.
Metal Slash, Kaklang and Kamekazie exist mostly to discourage top-decking moves at random.
Also Kaklang best use is to time out rounds, or run the clock on limited threats like Joker's Persona or Mac's KO Punch, Peach's Bob-Omb... Cloud's limit wears off too now iirc.
This channel has grown so much in so little time
You should've talked about Mewtwo's Melee side b cheese. You know, when you go on ledge on Battlefield and take them through the stage. It is very funny and useful if your opponent isn't expecting it.
The worst special move in Ultimate is Wonderwing because is too weak, but its unpunishable and you can use it infinite times.
ok buddy
I already got your joke when you said 'too weak' bro. Try more tricky.
Nah it’s the 8th FE Rep Down B
@@monoko1234 I main banjo and kazooie and when it doesn't kill at 60% at the ledge is very sad
@@DanielSantos-dn8gu I once got hit by Rest as Falcon at 56% and survived. The move that kills less than 60% is rarer than you think since DI is a thing.
12:40 I'm glad I'm not the only one who heard you call him "Woof". Which I may start calling him.
Ik Melee bowser up special sucks as a recovery but it’s so great on stage I don’t think it deserves to be here
These Megaman tracks are great in the vid 👀
Hardman theme is good
About Judge, number 1 DOES in fact deal 12%. That's 12% base damage, meaning it can be affected by multipliers like the fresh hit multiplier (AKA first time you use that move in a match or in Training Mode with "Stale Moves" on), multiplying the damage dealt by x1.05, and the 1v1 multiplier, multiplying it by x1.2.
Hey, one critique, Yoshi's down b in Brawl is actually a really good kill move and you can true combo into it by hitting jab 1. Its legitimately one of Yoshi's best kill confirms in Brawl and if you watch any Yoshi tournament gameplay you're bound to see it used to kill at least once or twice a set. On top of that, it also has a really big ledge grab detection, so its useful to fall quickly to the ledge and escape juggles. It also has a glitch where if you use it on a slope that slides you offstage, like near the ledges of competitively legal stages like Yoshi's Island Brawl and Lylat Cruise, you have 0 lag and it puts you into neutral state while still shooting out the star projectiles. Yoshi can use this to ledge trap or as a landing mix up.
2:53 I finally found a recovery that's more useless then little mac
yay?
did you know that this video was uploaded earlier in the "worst moves playlist?"
I had no clue. I'll have to remember not to do that next time...
@@AlexEXE lmaooooo
I’m not sure what you said when you were talking about “wolf” in the smash ultimate part it sounded like “woof”, not sure if it’s a mistake or an accent but amazing.
lol instant subscribe.
14:34 the recoil increases by 2% in 1v1, like damage in general.
Close, its a 1.2 multiplier and 12 * 1.2 = 14.4 but yeah I was thinking the same. Same reason why metal slash did 1.2% damage. Glad I'm not the only one who noticed
8:33 That Pit just moonwalked in Brawl. Isn't that a Melee-exclusive tech?
Um no you can moonwalk in brawl, but why risk so many dash inputs?
@@octaviogonzalez8794 That risk is why I never tried to do it… well, that and I can only do it in Melee with Falcon and Link.
Because your character could end up tripping and end up getting punished for a nonsensical tripping mechanic so it's better to walk in that game
11:06 I thought that was the clip slowed down
Me too
You should do some more research on Rollout in Melee. There's usually a better option, but it does have some utility as a way to punish players who instinctively double jump. In addition, an uncharged Rollout actually does have a surprisingly powerful, if small, semi-spike hitbox right on top of Jigglypuff right as it starts moving. This makes for a pretty solid DI mix-up with Rest if you can time it right.
It's still not a good move, but it has uses.
Respectably towards Smash 64 Yoshi's egg throw, I figured out how to combo out of it so it's not too bad. And it's also great for edge guarding if you know how to aim it.
"Every character in Smash bros has special moves"
Min Min: *Am I a joke to you?*
The video: came out 15 minutes ago
The comments 5 hours ago
Me: visible confusion
Time travelers..!!!
I guess they got bored with Animal Crossing and had to start doing it on TH-cam too!
Alex.EXE yeah your right or they started getting bored traveling on tomodachi life too
@@detectiveg7885 uh
he put it in the playlist section, that's how we got in early
H O W D Y Thats some magic
Jiggs Rollout in Melee was surprisingly effective as a recovery snipe from off stage from my experience. As in when you get knocked high enough off stage, charge a Rollout and watch in glee as you easily recover and potentially snipe your opponent waiting to edge guard. Again that's just from my experience.
Melee's sing can be used for an infinite and to grab ledges from the opposite direction you are facing.
Jigglypuff should wear a shirt that says “Shoot me”
It feels like these moves personally offended him
Something to add to Brawl Ganon upB, the move, along with the many oversights the character had with him, has almost no hitstun as a command grab. If you're a character with a decently ranged and fast nair/fair, you can swat Ganon immediately after he releases you from the grab. In other words, it PUNISHES you for using it properly. Oh, and it suffers from RCO lag, something most Brawl recoveries suffered from. Basically, using most specials that put yourself into fall special causes extra landing lag when you land onstage without removing it first with certain actions. Brawl Lucario is also a big offender for having one of the worst recovery specials. His UpB had no hitbox in Brawl and has terrible landing lag, meaning your opponent just had to hold ledge, jump on stage, hit you and repeat the cycle. The only redeeming thing was that Lucario could aim it into walls and wall cling, which was useful on certain stages even in competitive Brawl's stagelist
wolf's up b is actually preferred to use mostly because side b can be 2framed before hitting the ledge and up b has uses out of foostool oos
YES I'M EARLY, also warlock punch is a little on the fence for me.
It's very situational with armor. But warlock punch in Melee? No bueno! Can't think of any redeeming traits for that one.
hmm yeah i can agree with that
It’s useful for shield breaks
@@austinkaukl8580 at that point you might as well go for up-tilt
RoyGuyManDude, I’m just looking for anything good about it
I like Sonic's special the homing attack when someone is each guard me I used toake damaged to the enemy
Javier Gonzalez what?
One thing that is kind of cool about Jigglipuff's Sing, even though it is really just an Easter Egg, is that using it on Pokemon Stadium when the camera's on you makes anyone who's on the ground fall asleep. They don't even have to be near you. It can very well be showcased in SSBM Event 39: Jigglypuff Live!
I don't think Wolf's up special in ultimate is a good move, but I don't think it is garbage by any means. Its delay on start up, ok damage and decent knockback make it a good mix up if you get a read on your opponent. It can also be used to finish opponents midair or as a combo extender for the same reasons. Its just that its a bad as a recovery tool, and Wolf has a lot of other more consistent and efficient tools at his disposal. So it doesn't see much use.