very interesting video, and yes please - I would be keen on knowing more about spring design. I have a couple of springs I would like to make and they have been sitting in the to hard basket for over a year now!
There is published a series of books called "Workshop Practice Series". Number 19 is the book by Tubal Cain called "Spring Design And Manufacture". During my 40 plus years working as a machinist I had the occasion to make many springs. I had to figure out how to design the springs and then make them. Late in my career I discovered the aforementioned book and found it quite useful. It's too bad I didn't find this book earlier. In this book a spring winder is mentioned that is quite similar to the winder in this video. The Workshop Practice Series books are still available and are a source of very good information to home machinists as well as career machinists. I suggest that this good video and the spring book go very well together.
Thank you for the clarity of your video. So well filmed and narrated. Very interesting and educational. Looking forward to more videos about spring production and your d bit grinder. 👏👏👍😀
Seems like a useful little tool and a great challenge for a new machinist with all the bits and bobs to make as well as side projects to make tooling that will last for a lifetime for other projects. I like that the kit comes with the long drill bit needed for the centre hole ... The results look great too.
Hey Jonesey! Yes I would love to see a video on spring design and manufacture. Especially about closing the coil at the beginning and end of the spring.
Definitely interested in springs. all the machines I make/remake have springs. I have 2 file cabinet drawers full of springs and still I often have to search for a specific spring and wait for MCMASTER.
First time viewer on your channel. Really enjoyed this build video and looking forward to seeing the rest. I like the way you talk through the process.
Wow, that is way too much effort. I just took a piece of 1/2" x 1/2" mild steel bar about 3 or 4" long, drilled a small hole through the center of it, beveled both of the leading edges, and mounted it in a tool holder. I can use the leadscrew and gear box to set the spacing on the spring and it's a lot more consistent than this seems to be. Same principle but it lets the machine do all the work.
although not necessary for this project, if more accuracy is needed, indicate a tooling ball or even a ball from a bearing, sitting the center hole in the end of angled part.
The off center drilling from the first operation hurt my brain 🥴 The optical illusion when focusing on the drill hole makes the entire scene look fake lol Great film shoots and lighting 👍
Thank you for your response. I wasn't very clear on what I was talking about. In the video I believe you mentioned that you have a new D-Bit grinder and were thinking about doing a video on that topic. The D-Bit grinder is very interesting to me! I have an old one (but still in good condition) and have very little knowledge about it and how to use it. I shall be watching your channel for that content if you do decide to go with it. Again, thank you!
I see! Thanks Glenn. I’ll definitely be putting a video out about the D-Bit grinder soon. I need to make a custom lathe tool so will document that. All the best to you.
Another beautifully made tool. Thank you. I am still working on the Hemingway knurling tool. I am metric through and through so finding the conversion tricky. My biggest problem is getting the imperial tooling. Made one part 3 times wondering what I had done wrong and it turns out the 1/4 BSF taps were actually 5.3mm x 26 tpi. Close, but would only screw in 3/4 inch over a 1 inch screw. Gave up on imperial, cut down to 6mm and threaded M6 x 0.75 and made a new screw. Some other anomalies with the drawings but I'll let you know when I have finished.
That's good to know ahead of time, thanks Stephen. With most of these kits I try and substitute for metric threads where I can as these are the tools I have. There are a few instances however where the imperial ones are the better choice so I generally try and find the right taps and dies on eBay.
Yes please for the spring design. I would be particularly interested in forming a "progressive" spring...one that increases the resistance as it's crushed, above the normal increase in resistance.
This is very interesting and very well done as well. I sure would like to see your thoughts on more details. By the way if you could, would you consider slowing down just a bit in your narration of the video? You know this information very well, but it is hard, very hard to follow you when you get going so fast. And for a set of US ears it is doubly hard. Just don't want to miss what you say. Thank you for the video.
Wow... that was a lot of work for something that doesnt really do that much. You can do this just by drilling a hole through an old tool and using an arbor, especially when combined with an electronic leadscrew.
Seen oldtimers calculate a spring the setup a thread pitch and cut a mandrel like thread then do a crosshole in one of the thread valleys they used a similar tension mechanism welded to a 40x40
excellent video...excellent work. Would you know if the Machinerys Handbook tells how to determine what size rod to wrap around for a desired final spring diameter? Thanks
Just checked, lot's of info in there on spring design but I don't see anything about that specifically. I'll do some more research and put my findings in a follow up video.
Seems like a very complicated way to make a spring. I have always formed them by hand, just holding the wire against the mandrel with a length of steel bar.
Hi Scott, I’ll be sure to make a follow up video on spring design. The lathe is a Warco GH 1330, I have a review video on my channel that talks about it in more detail.
It would be a shame if Hemingway had a knurling kit! I have a real use for custom springs so this is fantastic. I would love to see more info on designing springs, especially nested ones. I have an application going from 3 tension type springs to 2 compression springs so it might get a bit (evokes Edd China Voice) fiddly
I cannot get on to the Hemmingway kits website at all, it goes to a holding page. Is there another page that they use? Also looking at how it is used on the lathe, I think I would make it fit a tool holder and then use the lathe feed or screw cutting to space the coils at the correct distance (as long as they go up high enough for bigger pitches of springs). I could certainly have used it to make a small very light weight spring a couple of months ago. I ended up buying one from Lee Spring, my goto supplier of springs, but it cost over £20 for a spring the size of one in a ball point pen, but much lighter weight.
Hi Bill, try going to the homepage www.hemingwaykits.com/ There are ways to make springs with a toolholder, I will cover these in a future video. Thanks for watching!
@@joneseymakes Hi, thanks for coming back. Even your link goes to a holding page. I'm wondering if they haven't renewed with their ISP and someones now holding them to ransom to get it back.
@@joneseymakes Sorted now. I use Firefox as my browser and it has real problems with the site. I downloaded Opera and it worked fine with that. Thanks for taking the time to respond. I will have a look at some of their projects.
@@joneseymakes Hobby or not,I'd see more point in making a tool or anything that isn't made than making something you can pick up some all-thread for a few $ with the same result.
@@dirtdart81 LOL you dolt,should have named yourself buttdart instead. An you're not limited to the diameter and pitch of the rod he's wasting all that time machining?? There's all kinds of bolts and threaded rod in all kinds of diameters and thread pitches... It's also a spring....any of them would do the job needed here instead of wasting all that time. Did your parents have any kids that wasn't brain-dead at birth? Stick to your games,boy,and think long and hard before you leave any comment anywhere.
Всё видео гадал что это за штука, выглядит так серьёзно, а на деле хрень бесполезная. Если в твоём токарном станке есть резьбовой вал, то просто подавай проволоку через оправку с отверстием, закреплённую в резцедержателе, а шаг пружины регулируй шагом резьбы на станке, вот и всё, это очень просто
very interesting video, and yes please - I would be keen on knowing more about spring design. I have a couple of springs I would like to make and they have been sitting in the to hard basket for over a year now!
Thanks Jack. I'll start working on that video soon.
There is published a series of books called "Workshop Practice Series". Number 19 is the book by Tubal Cain called "Spring Design And Manufacture". During my 40 plus years working as a machinist I had the occasion to make many springs. I had to figure out how to design the springs and then make them. Late in my career I discovered the aforementioned book and found it quite useful. It's too bad I didn't find this book earlier. In this book a spring winder is mentioned that is quite similar to the winder in this video. The Workshop Practice Series books are still available and are a source of very good information to home machinists as well as career machinists. I suggest that this good video and the spring book go very well together.
@@etprecisionmachine2379 Thanks for the tip, I'll be sure to read that book.
Thank you for the clarity of your video. So well filmed and narrated. Very interesting and educational.
Looking forward to more videos about spring production and your d bit grinder. 👏👏👍😀
Thanks Andrew!
Clickspring has an interesting video on laying out radial lines that may be of assistance.
And This Old Tony has an excellent video titled 'Making Springs At Home' 👍
Cheers, I'll check that out.
Seems like a useful little tool and a great challenge for a new machinist with all the bits and bobs to make as well as side projects to make tooling that will last for a lifetime for other projects. I like that the kit comes with the long drill bit needed for the centre hole ... The results look great too.
Thanks!
Im bing watching these now, I've got a healthy workload as it is 😂
more details on spring design? Yes please!
never would have thought of using IPA as a cutting fluid! Thanks for sharing this. Very clever means of creating a wobble plate!
Thanks!
The Hemingway kit videos are great, I have got a lathe or mill or anything but I'm obsessed
Thanks, they are good fun to make.
@@joneseymakes roughly how much do you spend on the kits?
They vary in price, not expensive though
Hey Jonesey! Yes I would love to see a video on spring design and manufacture. Especially about closing the coil at the beginning and end of the spring.
Thanks Sam! I’ll get on to it.
I can't believe you haven't had a comment in 8 months. I love the channel Thank you.
Definitely interested in springs. all the machines I make/remake have springs. I have 2 file cabinet drawers full of springs and still I often have to search for a specific spring and wait for MCMASTER.
Thanks. I’ll get around to making a sporting design video soon.
This tool is a neat little devise.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Joe
First time viewer on your channel. Really enjoyed this build video and looking forward to seeing the rest. I like the way you talk through the process.
Thanks Bill, much appreciated!
I was seriously confused how this was going to work. Very nifty tool.
Nicely done!
Cheers
Many thanks!
Wow, that is way too much effort. I just took a piece of 1/2" x 1/2" mild steel bar about 3 or 4" long, drilled a small hole through the center of it, beveled both of the leading edges, and mounted it in a tool holder. I can use the leadscrew and gear box to set the spacing on the spring and it's a lot more consistent than this seems to be. Same principle but it lets the machine do all the work.
Thanks for the comment Dustin. I'm going to be experimenting with that method too.
It's not effort when design is involved, He probably had a good time doing it.
Does not have to be a rush to make it relaxing.
This is how I’ve been doing it for 40+ years.
+1 for spring design
Maybe consider making the Hemingway kits knurling tool next,it's supposed to be very good.Thank you very interesting.
I have the kit ready and waiting to be built. I have a few other projects I need to complete first though. Thanks for watching!
Great tool mate. I’ll have to add one of these to my list of future makes. Well done on a great channel.
Thanks!
Love ur video's! hope to see you make the Hemingway knurler and rotary broach at some point in the future, Keep up the great work!
Thanks! They are in the pipeline!
@@joneseymakes that makes me very happy to hear :)
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Спасибо!
although not necessary for this project, if more accuracy is needed, indicate a tooling ball or even a ball from a bearing, sitting the center hole in the end of angled part.
Great idea, thanks for that.
Another great video Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching.
Nice job, 50 years ago we had a and powered unit that was quite handy
Thanks!
The off center drilling from the first operation hurt my brain 🥴
The optical illusion when focusing on the drill hole makes the entire scene look fake lol
Great film shoots and lighting 👍
Yeah it’s a weird one! Camera frame rates don’t help :-)
Thank you for your response. I wasn't very clear on what I was talking about. In the video I believe you mentioned that you have a new D-Bit grinder and were thinking about doing a video on that topic. The D-Bit grinder is very interesting to me! I have an old one (but still in good condition) and have very little knowledge about it and how to use it. I shall be watching your channel for that content if you do decide to go with it. Again, thank you!
I see! Thanks Glenn. I’ll definitely be putting a video out about the D-Bit grinder soon. I need to make a custom lathe tool so will document that. All the best to you.
Another beautifully made tool. Thank you. I am still working on the Hemingway knurling tool. I am metric through and through so finding the conversion tricky. My biggest problem is getting the imperial tooling. Made one part 3 times wondering what I had done wrong and it turns out the 1/4 BSF taps were actually 5.3mm x 26 tpi. Close, but would only screw in 3/4 inch over a 1 inch screw. Gave up on imperial, cut down to 6mm and threaded M6 x 0.75 and made a new screw. Some other anomalies with the drawings but I'll let you know when I have finished.
That's good to know ahead of time, thanks Stephen. With most of these kits I try and substitute for metric threads where I can as these are the tools I have. There are a few instances however where the imperial ones are the better choice so I generally try and find the right taps and dies on eBay.
Did you mention what that aluminum cutting insert was? I looked but didn’t see the information for it?
Hi Alain, the code for the insert is CCGT09T308-AL-YG10. I put a link to where I bought it in the description of the video. Thanks for watching.
Yes please for the spring design. I would be particularly interested in forming a "progressive" spring...one that increases the resistance as it's crushed, above the normal increase in resistance.
Thanks Bill, I'm going to start work on that video soon.
This is very interesting and very well done as well. I sure would like to see your thoughts on more details. By the way if you could, would you consider slowing down just a bit in your narration of the video? You know this information very well, but it is hard, very hard to follow you when you get going so fast. And for a set of US ears it is doubly hard. Just don't want to miss what you say.
Thank you for the video.
Thanks for the feedback Glenn, very useful. I'll be sure to slow down the narration going forward. What more details would you like to hear about?
Turn on the closed caption, it helps old foreign ears.
Just binge watching your channel, great work and thanks for all of the content
Another super clean video! For some reason I sense a ball turning kit video in the near future
it's in the pipeline!
Hi nice tool and thanks for sharing your video. Look forward to your shows next episode.
Thanks for watching!
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Thank you!
Great photography
Thanks!
Wow... that was a lot of work for something that doesnt really do that much. You can do this just by drilling a hole through an old tool and using an arbor, especially when combined with an electronic leadscrew.
Engraving this might be a good job for your new laser engraver.
Yes indeed, I need to get around to that!
Seen oldtimers calculate a spring the setup a thread pitch and cut a mandrel like thread then do a crosshole in one of the thread valleys they used a similar tension mechanism welded to a 40x40
Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
Love the vids
Thanks very much!
excellent video...excellent work. Would you know if the Machinerys Handbook tells how to determine what size rod to wrap around for a desired final spring diameter? Thanks
Just checked, lot's of info in there on spring design but I don't see anything about that specifically. I'll do some more research and put my findings in a follow up video.
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yes please to tech jnfo on spring winding
Thanks Michael. I’ll get working on that.
Seems like a very complicated way to make a spring. I have always formed them by hand, just holding the wire against the mandrel with a length of steel bar.
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Thanks!
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Absolutely interested in spring design! Also coil springs like in a tape measure. One more thing: what kind of lathe is that?
Hi Scott, I’ll be sure to make a follow up video on spring design. The lathe is a Warco GH 1330, I have a review video on my channel that talks about it in more detail.
Another great video. Did I see that the drawings are in both imperial and metric. Is it common to mix the two and does it cause any problems?
Thanks! Some Hemingway kits specify both, but they are usually in imperial. I normally work in metric so I chop and change!
Interested.
It would be a shame if Hemingway had a knurling kit! I have a real use for custom springs so this is fantastic. I would love to see more info on designing springs, especially nested ones. I have an application going from 3 tension type springs to 2 compression springs so it might get a bit (evokes Edd China Voice) fiddly
I'm intending to do a spring design video so keep an eye out for that!
Hi Jonesey what is the tool you use to make your 45 degree chamfer
I actually don’t know what the insert number is. It’s just a 45 degree carbide chamfer tool that I got as part of a set.
I cannot get on to the Hemmingway kits website at all, it goes to a holding page. Is there another page that they use?
Also looking at how it is used on the lathe, I think I would make it fit a tool holder and then use the lathe feed or screw cutting to space the coils at the correct distance (as long as they go up high enough for bigger pitches of springs). I could certainly have used it to make a small very light weight spring a couple of months ago. I ended up buying one from Lee Spring, my goto supplier of springs, but it cost over £20 for a spring the size of one in a ball point pen, but much lighter weight.
Hi Bill, try going to the homepage www.hemingwaykits.com/
There are ways to make springs with a toolholder, I will cover these in a future video. Thanks for watching!
@@joneseymakes Hi, thanks for coming back. Even your link goes to a holding page. I'm wondering if they haven't renewed with their ISP and someones now holding them to ransom to get it back.
@@joneseymakes Sorted now. I use Firefox as my browser and it has real problems with the site. I downloaded Opera and it worked fine with that. Thanks for taking the time to respond. I will have a look at some of their projects.
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1:28 we don‘t what that to happen and it will definitely not happen on a lathe. 🤷🏻♂️
Hell of a lot of work just to make a tool when you could just wind wire around a piece of all-thread and get the same result.
Yeah but that's not really the point is it? For me this is a hobby and part of the enjoyment is making the tools themselves.
@@joneseymakes Hobby or not,I'd see more point in making a tool or anything that isn't made than making something you can pick up some all-thread for a few $ with the same result.
Except that would limit you to the diameter and pitch of available allthread. Think before you leave a mean comment.
@@dirtdart81 LOL you dolt,should have named yourself buttdart instead.
An you're not limited to the diameter and pitch of the rod he's wasting all that time machining?? There's all kinds of bolts and threaded rod in all kinds of diameters and thread pitches... It's also a spring....any of them would do the job needed here instead of wasting all that time.
Did your parents have any kids that wasn't brain-dead at birth? Stick to your games,boy,and think long and hard before you leave any comment anywhere.
Всё видео гадал что это за штука, выглядит так серьёзно, а на деле хрень бесполезная. Если в твоём токарном станке есть резьбовой вал, то просто подавай проволоку через оправку с отверстием, закреплённую в резцедержателе, а шаг пружины регулируй шагом резьбы на станке, вот и всё, это очень просто
Thanks for the feedback.
Have you seen hemingways knurling kits ? Also Blondiehacks is building a knurling tool at the moment Thanks again
Yes, I have one here ready to build. That’ll be an upcoming video
@@joneseymakes I was looking at the sensitive version myself Looking forward to the build