The Systema practitioner appears to land more strikes. They seem to be stopping on the ground without a visible submission or ground and pound. What were the rules? Systema appears to be limiting the hands to palm strikes? Systema landing regularly might surprise some people. He rides punches and gets around the neck a couple of times. Smother chokes can work from underneath with sufficient strength, as can a side headlock or neck crank or esikiel.
@Mr Tee - It's just bullshit man. That's all it is. My advice, look at Muay Thai, BJJ, Judo, Shooto, Arnis, Kali, Eskrima, Western Boxing, Free Style Wrestling, Greco Roman Wrestling, Catch Wrestling, HEMA, Wing Chun, Silat, Jeet Kune Do and.........I think that's it. Well, these are the main ones I looked at for formulating a CQC version for myself. Just took out what was the most effective and threw everything else away. Lastly, If you want to do a "sport" choose a martial art. If you want to learn how to fight, look at each style, take what is only useful to you and discard anything else that is not useful, do not look at the techniques you took as part of a style anymore but as just "combative techniques". Remember that there is "combatives" and then there is "Martial Arts". Combatives just focuses on what is useful for warfare while martial arts just focuses on what is expressive. Just saying.
Systema like Aikido and many other martial art forms never seems to hold up in a real fight. All the training is with slow , deliberate , rehearsed moves . Which of course is NEVER the case in a real fight. I never see these guys really sparring each other do you ? Even these guys are going at it easy. All that training goes out the window the moment you start getting the hell knocked out of you ! Mixed Martial Arts with real contact and sparring is a far better platform in my opinion.
bruh, you never learn martial arts fast, how can you learn if it even hard too see? you will fight blindly without knowing the concept or the reason of the martial arts itself and remember, the spetsnaz? they learn this so called "ineffective" martial arts, do you even try it? if not you don't have any right to say or complain about it, what you see is different than the actions on the field
@@soldier1stclass987 je suis un boxeur et je peut jurer qu'un boxeur amateur bats un champions du monde systema le systema sert à rien le jeu de jambes d'un boxeur le rendrait fou et la vitesse de ses coup mettrait ko le pratiquant de systema direct
Sistema Is made to kill, MMA Is for sport, cant compare in a fight to the death and the Freedom to harm heavily the opponent sistema Is far superior, but you wont see most teqniques in a sparring, if you have to avoid breaking a neck, same goes for war version of aikido "koppo" and israeli SF martial arts. Those are not for competitive sports but made to kill people fast, 100% sure if experienced sistema fighter wants to TK a mma fighter he would succed in seconds. Too brutal for sports, thats why its mostly common tò see those trained in a special Force military unit and not on a ring. Glad tò enlighten but dont mistake sports with real fighting teq. The guy Is slapping for a reason
@@matteoste8426 God you're tragic. All you gullible nutters, cult followers, true believers, and fantasists are all the same and all come out with ludicrous rationalizations to keep your beliefs. I just reread Let Every Breath that gives some good stuff on breath, but I'd stay far away from this bullshit. It does not work except on stooges. A couple of people in Spetnaz train this and yet claim the whole of Spetnaz get taught this. You don't know how sad you sound.
Watching it in slow motion, he does pretty good. the fight opens with him checking a kick and then kicking the guy with the same leg he checked with. then he dodges a punch , slaps bro in the mouth and kicks him before he can even reset. he eats some shots but that is just fighting, in slow motion I can see that a lot of bald's punches are hitting gumby's elbows, which I am guessing he would have had problems without the pillows on his hands . baldy gets bitch slapped non stop and most of his counters hit nothing worth hitting and then right at 1:23 he gets a slap/push to the face that, if it had been a closed fist, would've ruined that guy's christmas. bald bro gets frustrated and tries to take it to the ground, bold move for a man with boxing gloves considering I'm sure most russian martial artists know a little sambo. at least enough to choke someone out that can't use their fingers. I remember seeing this years ago and thinking it was nonsense. but now that I watch it in slow motion , assuming this was a "friendly exchange", he gets zero points on style but a 8/10 in actually making his weird nonsense work.
What was he doing with his hands? Some sort of diversion for his kicks? I never saw that "attitude" in any systema stuff before... I liked his leg work though. Surprising little kicks.
Some fighters take time to process the opponent's patterns. A lot of Muay Thai guys, for example, take a round to learn a little about the fighter. It's all a balance, especially when facing someone so unorthodox like this Systema person.
СИСТЕМА И прочие так называемые "русские древние единоборства" - это новодел фриков и не более того. В России кроме кваса ни чего своего не придумано...Говорю Вам как Русский.
I don't understand why an mma fighter would go shinguards and gloves when we spar and wanna go minimum we just use the mma gloves and handwraps no sense in actually fighting a guy with padding unless he's never done training without gloves. Guys will shatter their hands without any padding unfortunately.
MMA Guy "Yeah, I'm gonna wear gloves cause I don't want to break my hands pummeling your face". Systema Guy "I don't need gloves... my special breathing will protect my hands". MMA Guy "Yeah, well what's gonna protect your face"? 😆. Required PSA: Remember, this is ONLY sparring. 😁
If this was real systema the fight would have been over in the first 5 seconds. Im not exaggerating. Its not by luck that it is trained on the elite special forces. The thing with systema is, that there are too many bullshit artists out there that ruin the name.
Poorest display of systema I've ever seen (and I don't think I've never seen a grown man with so little muscle in my entire life), not that the MMA guy was all that great (but if he went full strength on some of the punches and knees where he made contact, the systema guy would have been out cold). Anyway, I agree with the consensus, definitely not a great fight :)
Like all martial arts practice and devotion makes you better. Systema is great and so is MMA. Problem is Systema is hard to get used to and does require very intuitive movement that most of us aren't used to.
@@ElselchoGaming Yeah. lol. Also at the end though the MMA guy could have gotten a rear naked choke or moved into side control and used his weight. Instead he gave his opponent the chance to turn around and he ended up in full mount.
Why not more focus on punching the face? It doesn't even matter if its bait, he's exposing it pretty bad. This is one of the most ridiculous martial arts I've ever seen.
The mma guy wore gloves and couldnt knock him out. Im pretty sure that if it was me, i would have been koed in the first five seconds. To me thats enough to prove that systema works against an agressor. Not saying its the best tool in a ring, of course.
Kadoshnicov sistem is more violent and letal...This man is second level,royal Sistema instructor,have level 5(no rule),M.M.A sistem is 10% propous the original sistem of Lee Jun Fan....two amators.
I'm going to say something about systema In my opinion there is a lot of b.s. in it not all though however in real time I think the art takes on a different spirit some good some bad like all martial arts. For example karate is very powerful but not all blocks are good in my opinion it easier to move out of the way than block but not entirely bad either when done right
Joseph Kennedy Moving out of the way is risky and inefficient.Mostly used for sport purposes.For military and defence purposes blocking is good because they attack immedietly after or during the block.This is to neutralize the enemy asa quickly as possible.
AcidPixels l Minecraft Sorry man I mean I'm not really sorry but ive been doing ma's for quit some time and have trained karate/ kung fu and jujitsu. Some blocks work but while you have a punch aimed at your face traveling with velocity trying to chamber to set up for your block systematically doesn't always work. Why don't mma use many blocking technique's.???Look at lyoto machina what does he do??? Dances around looking for that one kill strike i.e. takeout. Block right and it's good. Block and simultaneously strike. Boxing mechanics are very natural just duck and weave are cover when punches and kicks are coming at you with knockout power that's a very natural thing to do.Of course boxing doesn't cover kicks but that's another topic/// Some blocks are very powerful but many are a waste of time. You can just use good jujitsu techniques to defend.
Joseph Kennedy I've been doing Systema for quite some time, and I can assure you it is way better than what this guy was doing. He was belly dancing. We are trained so that when we get attacked on the streets, we use deadly force/counter attacks. Systema is very hard to use like this, in a "friendly" fight. I'm assuming this guy's mma sucked too
E foi feito para que então. O suposto mma fighter está até pegando leve ou é ruim e o systema guy não consegue se defender de um cara pegando leve com luva.
Guys that was not pure Systema. Guy he could breacke his joints or punch him in the throat. On the ground he had so many option to breacke his foot and ribs. This was set up. At the war is no fair fight. Systema fight for Life, MMA fithts for medal.....
Systema looks to me like it is based on strong impact fight ending movements. I believe a good Systema practioner will beat a good MMA fighter in a street fight but never in an MMA match.
A good systema practitioner will win if the other dude literally lets him get all his hits in. The ability to land a decent punch isn't massively impressive against martial art fighters taught to avoid, block, tank... hits as part of their core training.
@Big Chungus My point is, if in an environment where it's life and death, I am taking a seasoned systema practitioner over a seasoned mixed martial artist
@@skatman227 creo que ninguno de los dos xd pero si fuera así creo que preferiría la combinación de ambos un luchador de mma con conocimientos de systema
what could be more stupid than matching SPORT (MMA) against COMBAT APPLICABLE stuff like Systema??? These two are just not comparable with each other. Different principles, different purposes, different objectives, different assessment criteria.
Pues es más estúpido lo que dices xd mma es un deporte de combate systema como dice el nombre es un sistema de combate la idea de comparar estos dos es ver y nutrir las artes marciales ver si sus técnicas pueden ser comparables con otros erc etc es como decir que in peleador de karate no piede pelear con alguien de boxeo ambos pueden ser utilizados como defensa personal xd
Bine teo ti ai vazut de lupta siste r...t e balet si primesti mai mult ca un judoka si aikidoka tot ce a facut sistema asta e capace si nici macar articulare incearca ceva tot in wushu kickbox karate te disciplinezi eviti cutite topare faci suflu si esti apreciat de mapn eu am facut wushu si armata a fost multumita de rezistenta si rabdarea de atunci de la sala de wushu kung fu derivatele din judo sunt ca un cantaret care scoate o melodie se plictisesc marii performeri si creeaza ceva comercial
Asta e adevarul lupta decisa cu seriozitate in lovitura si impresii de maestru obosit la adversar sa zicem ca a fost invitatii in cusca cu voi sau elevii vostri
This is awesome!
lol yo fight commentary what up
This is extremely useful for the necxt time i have an mma guy with 2 broken arms
Soo with a few months of MMA training you can be as good as a systema instructor?
Better. MMA practicioner take it lighter uppon him
More like weeks
Damn. You could feel the sound of that slap on mma dude's face through the screen, but the systema guy still got smacked around like a speed bag.
Is that dude throwing slaps??? I saw open hands
If this is really how Systema is, then I don't think I'd be interested to learn.
Le systema c'est de la merde
More like dat fat old man givin powerful overhands not dancin slaps
This looks like a beginner mma fighter vs someone on Fentanyl...
I'm not even necessarily against systemma, but this is bad...
do either of them know how to fight
The Systema practitioner appears to land more strikes. They seem to be stopping on the ground without a visible submission or ground and pound. What were the rules? Systema appears to be limiting the hands to palm strikes?
Systema landing regularly might surprise some people. He rides punches and gets around the neck a couple of times.
Smother chokes can work from underneath with sufficient strength, as can a side headlock or neck crank or esikiel.
systema master says NICE when he gets punched in the face....he likes that😁🤣
Is systema actually any good? I've seen so many videos where the people seem to have zero technique like this guy here who loves to eat glove
@Mr Tee - It's just bullshit man. That's all it is. My advice, look at Muay Thai, BJJ, Judo, Shooto, Arnis, Kali, Eskrima, Western Boxing, Free Style Wrestling, Greco Roman Wrestling, Catch Wrestling, HEMA, Wing Chun, Silat, Jeet Kune Do and.........I think that's it. Well, these are the main ones I looked at for formulating a CQC version for myself. Just took out what was the most effective and threw everything else away. Lastly, If you want to do a "sport" choose a martial art. If you want to learn how to fight, look at each style, take what is only useful to you and discard anything else that is not useful, do not look at the techniques you took as part of a style anymore but as just "combative techniques". Remember that there is "combatives" and then there is "Martial Arts". Combatives just focuses on what is useful for warfare while martial arts just focuses on what is expressive. Just saying.
You can't fuck with limp-noodle style.
😁😂😂
This is literally how 10 year olds fight.
Bruh dont underestimate systema it might look like useless but its strong martial art
Then , where can i learn it, I really want to learn it but most of the websites that teach systema cost money
@@regieleeatienza2136 i wouldn't call it that good if a few months of MMA gets you on a similar skill level to an instructor in system in a fight
Clearly the guy in white is not an MMA fighter he don't know how to punch jab cross 😂
Systema like Aikido and many other martial art forms never seems to hold up in a real fight. All the training is with slow , deliberate , rehearsed moves . Which of course is NEVER the case in a real fight. I never see these guys really sparring each other do you ? Even these guys are going at it easy. All that training goes out the window the moment you start getting the hell knocked out of you ! Mixed Martial Arts with real contact and sparring is a far better platform in my opinion.
bruh, you never learn martial arts fast, how can you learn if it even hard too see? you will fight blindly without knowing the concept or the reason of the martial arts itself and remember, the spetsnaz? they learn this so called "ineffective" martial arts, do you even try it? if not you don't have any right to say or complain about it, what you see is different than the actions on the field
@@soldier1stclass987 je suis un boxeur et je peut jurer qu'un boxeur amateur bats un champions du monde systema le systema sert à rien le jeu de jambes d'un boxeur le rendrait fou et la vitesse de ses coup mettrait ko le pratiquant de systema direct
Sistema Is made to kill, MMA Is for sport, cant compare in a fight to the death and the Freedom to harm heavily the opponent sistema Is far superior, but you wont see most teqniques in a sparring, if you have to avoid breaking a neck, same goes for war version of aikido "koppo" and israeli SF martial arts. Those are not for competitive sports but made to kill people fast, 100% sure if experienced sistema fighter wants to TK a mma fighter he would succed in seconds. Too brutal for sports, thats why its mostly common tò see those trained in a special Force military unit and not on a ring. Glad tò enlighten but dont mistake sports with real fighting teq. The guy Is slapping for a reason
In a metaphor u could Say that Is like punching a girl u cant get serious 😂
@@matteoste8426 God you're tragic. All you gullible nutters, cult followers, true believers, and fantasists are all the same and all come out with ludicrous rationalizations to keep your beliefs. I just reread Let Every Breath that gives some good stuff on breath, but I'd stay far away from this bullshit. It does not work except on stooges. A couple of people in Spetnaz train this and yet claim the whole of Spetnaz get taught this. You don't know how sad you sound.
Watching it in slow motion, he does pretty good. the fight opens with him checking a kick and then kicking the guy with the same leg he checked with. then he dodges a punch , slaps bro in the mouth and kicks him before he can even reset. he eats some shots but that is just fighting, in slow motion I can see that a lot of bald's punches are hitting gumby's elbows, which I am guessing he would have had problems without the pillows on his hands . baldy gets bitch slapped non stop and most of his counters hit nothing worth hitting and then right at 1:23 he gets a slap/push to the face that, if it had been a closed fist, would've ruined that guy's christmas. bald bro gets frustrated and tries to take it to the ground, bold move for a man with boxing gloves considering I'm sure most russian martial artists know a little sambo. at least enough to choke someone out that can't use their fingers. I remember seeing this years ago and thinking it was nonsense. but now that I watch it in slow motion , assuming this was a "friendly exchange", he gets zero points on style but a 8/10 in actually making his weird nonsense work.
Systema is like a drunk rubber doll on crack
What was he doing with his hands? Some sort of diversion for his kicks? I never saw that "attitude" in any systema stuff before... I liked his leg work though. Surprising little kicks.
한놈은 머리가 문어
또한놈은 몸통이 문어
Why was the “MMA” guy taking so long to end this fool?
Some fighters take time to process the opponent's patterns. A lot of Muay Thai guys, for example, take a round to learn a little about the fighter. It's all a balance, especially when facing someone so unorthodox like this Systema person.
@@FightCommentary ok but come on man, as soon as they get in close and systema dude flails a backfist it's back take and throw time!
This guys MMA looks terrible. The amount of times he had to blast this guy and he hesitates - i'm assuming you were going easy here.
СИСТЕМА И прочие так называемые "русские древние единоборства" - это новодел фриков и не более того. В России кроме кваса ни чего своего не придумано...Говорю Вам как Русский.
For systema You should anticipate the strike come in.. That's why your two hands always covering head this is sparing not a drill.
This not systema and that’s not mma
I don't understand why an mma fighter would go shinguards and gloves when we spar and wanna go minimum we just use the mma gloves and handwraps no sense in actually fighting a guy with padding unless he's never done training without gloves. Guys will shatter their hands without any padding unfortunately.
i doubt this is spetsnatz's systema
Systema is like kenpo. Theyre meant to be used on tbe untrained. But fall apart when pitted against an actual opponent
those twrling arms though 😂😂😂
This mma guy is a beginner
6 months maximum
Jay made sistema look cooler than it actually is
MMA Guy "Yeah, I'm gonna wear gloves cause I don't want to break my hands pummeling your face". Systema Guy "I don't need gloves... my special breathing will protect my hands". MMA Guy "Yeah, well what's gonna protect your face"? 😆. Required PSA: Remember, this is ONLY sparring. 😁
This is B.S. The systema guy was going to be on the ground in a real fight.
If this was real systema the fight would have been over in the first 5 seconds.
Im not exaggerating.
Its not by luck that it is trained on the elite special forces.
The thing with systema is, that there are too many bullshit artists out there that ruin the name.
You’re delusional
Elite special forces literally suck at fighting.
Take your example and apply logic to it.
Who are considered the most elite fighters? MMA fighters, not navy seals 🤣
@agarrikr2996 it's taught to the Russian forces only...
@@agarrikr2996 depends if your goal is to win shiny trophies or to kill or be killed.
Poorest display of systema I've ever seen (and I don't think I've never seen a grown man with so little muscle in my entire life), not that the MMA guy was all that great (but if he went full strength on some of the punches and knees where he made contact, the systema guy would have been out cold). Anyway, I agree with the consensus, definitely not a great fight :)
Pentru ce ți-ai pus mănuși dacă nu lovești cu ele?
Dă drumul la brațe, și da un lowkick calumea.
Like all martial arts practice and devotion makes you better. Systema is great and so is MMA. Problem is Systema is hard to get used to and does require very intuitive movement that most of us aren't used to.
C'mon man he lost against the worst MMA guy ever.
@@ElselchoGaming Yeah. lol. Also at the end though the MMA guy could have gotten a rear naked choke or moved into side control and used his weight. Instead he gave his opponent the chance to turn around and he ended up in full mount.
Also the first take down the Systema guy had Guillotine opportunity but he taps out.
@@ElselchoGaming He didn't go full throttle.
te pupa fratele tau Tedi
Why not more focus on punching the face? It doesn't even matter if its bait, he's exposing it pretty bad.
This is one of the most ridiculous martial arts I've ever seen.
A realidade ganhou da fantasia.
This is no systema at all!!!
The mma guy wore gloves and couldnt knock him out. Im pretty sure that if it was me, i would have been koed in the first five seconds. To me thats enough to prove that systema works against an agressor. Not saying its the best tool in a ring, of course.
Buakaw por pramuk shut go for him😂
Hahaha that's funny
😂😂😂😂😂😂
물리엔진인줄
Kadoshnicov sistem is more violent and letal...This man is second level,royal Sistema instructor,have level 5(no rule),M.M.A sistem is 10% propous the original sistem of Lee Jun Fan....two amators.
I'm going to say something about systema In my opinion there is a lot of b.s. in it not all though however in real time I think the art takes on a different spirit some good some bad like all martial arts. For example karate is very powerful but not all blocks are good in my opinion it easier to move out of the way than block but not entirely bad either when done right
Joseph Kennedy Moving out of the way is risky and inefficient.Mostly used for sport purposes.For military and defence purposes blocking is good because they attack immedietly after or during the block.This is to neutralize the enemy asa quickly as possible.
AcidPixels l Minecraft Sorry man I mean I'm not really sorry but ive been doing ma's for quit some time and have trained karate/ kung fu and jujitsu. Some blocks work but while you have a punch aimed at your face traveling with velocity trying to chamber to set up for your block systematically doesn't always work. Why don't mma use many blocking technique's.???Look at lyoto machina what does he do??? Dances around looking for that one kill strike i.e. takeout. Block right and it's good. Block and simultaneously strike. Boxing mechanics are very natural just duck and weave are cover when punches and kicks are coming at you with knockout power that's a very natural thing to do.Of course boxing doesn't cover kicks but that's another topic/// Some blocks are very powerful but many are a waste of time. You can just use good jujitsu techniques to defend.
Joseph Kennedy I've been doing Systema for quite some time, and I can assure you it is way better than what this guy was doing. He was belly dancing. We are trained so that when we get attacked on the streets, we use deadly force/counter attacks. Systema is very hard to use like this, in a "friendly" fight. I'm assuming this guy's mma sucked too
the ladys should go on cooking !!!!!!!!
Watch Volk Systema, you need to put your hands up, this video was not very good.
systema não foi feito para isso
E foi feito para que então. O suposto mma fighter está até pegando leve ou é ruim e o systema guy não consegue se defender de um cara pegando leve com luva.
Guys that was not pure Systema. Guy he could breacke his joints or punch him in the throat. On the ground he had so many option to breacke his foot and ribs. This was set up. At the war is no fair fight. Systema fight for Life, MMA fithts for medal.....
시스테마시스테마 하길래 들어왔는데 개싸움질하고자빠져있네
김세욱 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ씨팔ㅋㅌㅌㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Systema looks to me like it is based on strong impact fight ending movements. I believe a good Systema practioner will beat a good MMA fighter in a street fight but never in an MMA match.
A good systema practitioner will win if the other dude literally lets him get all his hits in. The ability to land a decent punch isn't massively impressive against martial art fighters taught to avoid, block, tank... hits as part of their core training.
MMA guy was going at 20% and stopped every time the systema instructor was in trouble.
@Big Chungus My point is, if in an environment where it's life and death, I am taking a seasoned systema practitioner over a seasoned mixed martial artist
@@skatman227 I mean, if you wanna die the fastest way possible, that's your call.
@@skatman227 creo que ninguno de los dos xd pero si fuera así creo que preferiría la combinación de ambos un luchador de mma con conocimientos de systema
BINE TEO SI FELICITARI PENTRU SALA DESCHISA ELEVI MULTI SA AI SI BAFTA CU MUAY THAI UL AM VAZUT CA AI FOST LA MAMA BOXULUI THAILANDEZ IN THAILANDA
実践でいかに小技が無意味か良くわかる。
Jalnic
보고 개웃엇넼ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
wtf is this
Zéro cardio
OMG this sh1t so ghay
Both guys can't fight ...
systema nhìn như túy quyền
시스테마건 뭐건 다 개구라임 ㅋㅋ
what could be more stupid than matching SPORT (MMA) against COMBAT APPLICABLE stuff like Systema??? These two are just not comparable with each other. Different principles, different purposes, different objectives, different assessment criteria.
Systema is not combat applicable. Sambo yes, wrestling yes, but systema is just a joke.
Pues es más estúpido lo que dices xd mma es un deporte de combate systema como dice el nombre es un sistema de combate la idea de comparar estos dos es ver y nutrir las artes marciales ver si sus técnicas pueden ser comparables con otros erc etc es como decir que in peleador de karate no piede pelear con alguien de boxeo ambos pueden ser utilizados como defensa personal xd
Fuck systema long livver mma 💩😂🤙🏻
Sistema vs mma looks like joke.
존나흐느적거리네
Bine teo ti ai vazut de lupta siste r...t e balet si primesti mai mult ca un judoka si aikidoka tot ce a facut sistema asta e capace si nici macar articulare incearca ceva tot in wushu kickbox karate te disciplinezi eviti cutite topare faci suflu si esti apreciat de mapn eu am facut wushu si armata a fost multumita de rezistenta si rabdarea de atunci de la sala de wushu kung fu derivatele din judo sunt ca un cantaret care scoate o melodie se plictisesc marii performeri si creeaza ceva comercial
Asta e adevarul lupta decisa cu seriozitate in lovitura si impresii de maestru obosit la adversar sa zicem ca a fost invitatii in cusca cu voi sau elevii vostri
cringe
ridiculo este video deveria tirar esta passando uma imagem negativa