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Easy way to clean gravel - turn the bag into a sieve. Do this outside, cut the bottom corners, smaller than the size of the gravel, then poke little holes in the bottom of the bag. Then run the garden hose through the bag, shake the bag up once in a while until the water runs clear, bonus use run off water for the garden.
The *best* compost you can buy is 100% Worm Castings, £6 per litre, zero need for sieving. Wash gravel using your sieves! - or a colander, which you can get for a couple of quid.
@@MDFishTanks as a gardener who has had wormeries and who also keeps tanks and a small above ground pond. I would think worm casts would be much too rich in nutrients for use in aquariums. I know you are aware aquatic soild tend to be lower in nutrients to prevent the nutrients from leeching into the water and making you cycle unbalanced. I realise you are pushing boundaries but I suspect it would be a nightmare starting from worm casts would make you nitrogen through the roof, you need soils where the nutrients will realese more slowly. Potting compost often have slower release nutrients like your root tabs in them I would stick with them.
@@CraigsOverijse opinó lo mismo, pero podría combinar tierra de maceta 80%, con tierra lombriz un 20% sería una combinación adecuada o eso creo, dará más nutrientes y no en exceso
Who wants to see a tank cleaning montage? LOL! I have been watching your channel for a long time and just love it. You have some really great ideas. Keep up the great work.
Most of his tanks don't get cleaned as i understand it. He creates mostly ecosystem tanks that self sustain and selfclean with enough plants to filters the water in a natural way, and algea eaters
Another good 'cap' you can utilize is bentonite clay granules (oil spill control granules). They are about £5 for a 20kg bag. Once rinsed (you must rinse them as they are dusty!), they are smaller than the smallest gravel and coarser than sand. It also holds on to nutrients really well.
im really looking forward to this in my opinion that gravel is too coarse but MD has proven me wrong on several occasions lol Love the content as always these past few years were awesome learned alot from ja keep it going ,especially love watching the colab videos with Matt and the gang at the shop .
MD, all I can say is this is a beautiful tank. My cousin just got some of your discus merch and it looks soooo good on him! Definitely on my Christmas list
I read somewhere that it's not good to use peat moss as aquarium substrate but I can't understand why. a while back I mixed half peat moss and half lechuza pon which is basically a mixture of lava gravel, zeolite, pumic and a bit of slow release fertilizer.I also added a little bit of activated charcoal and capped it with sand and used it as substrate in a bowl. plants and a small betta fish living there were doing so well.even the difficult plants that Normally don't do well in my tanks unless I use RO water were thriving in that peat moss-lechuza pon substrate eventhough I never used any liquid or tablet fertilizer or CO2 and didn't do much water changes except first two weeks. the only issue was that it looked like black water for a while which I suppose is because peat moss releases the same thing that catapa leaves release. I don't know why peat moss won't work in a bigger aquarium
thanks md for your advice on plant food on an earlier vid, im now using tnc complete but also the api mixed together once a week for the added iron that the plants need and its made a massive difference.
Given me some more ideas when it comes to re doing my tank ...... thanks to you and Matt we have 8 tanks now, and thinking of where we can put more ...... its an addiction 😆
You should consider a rice strainer for gravel, holes in the bottom for silt and bigger slots for sand and grit, plus you can force water through the bottom to help rinse better.
Peat free compost is better all around. Peat helps retain moisture. But the thing is if you plan on keeping the tank set up for years the moss will break down and cause mold and other bad things. It's called peat moss. I dont have peat moss in any of my pots or tanks.
Litorella uniflora grows wild in the UK! Very surreal seeing a plant advertised for aquascaping growing extremely well in the freezing shallows of Loch Rannoch near where I live :)
@@diamdante Yeah, such a unique shape as well. Really keen to use it in a scape soon, though I want to harvest it from the nearby area as an experiment.
In her book, Ms. Walstad cites the possibility of H2S in the soil. API root tabs does not contain sulfides in its formula? And that's why I'm curious and excited to follow the development of this aquarium!
Another beauty in the books! Thank you for all your inspiration and sharing your know how 😊 A question, what tweezers do you use ? They seem so easy to work with. Mine are way too stiff.
No gas exchange... I don't know, if that's a bad thing. I put NPK houseplant granules on the very bottom, crushed lava rock bags, pond compost, then capped it with thick layer of pool filtration, then regular gravel. Sometimes there are bubbles of the gas released, from the anaerobic processes, but same thing happens in the nature streams. It could be the thick layer used, it could be the combination of all, but it's the most stable tank I ever had. Started in June, no water changes... I'm doing regular checks, but the water parameters are better than my tap water. Normal algae levels and both fish and plants are healthy. EDIT: Ironically I've done 50% water change a day or two after this comment and cleaned one of the filters. It turned out some red tetras got sick and easy targets for bigger fish, but I suspect food.
Soy Latino (Perú) no sé inglés mi único idioma es Español, llegue a ver tu canal de casualidad y resultó lo mejor que vi en YT, gracias a ti tus vídeos tengo mejor experiencias en diseño y acabado de acuario, y este vídeo me gusta porque es más natural y mas económico . Yo hago mi sustrato casero con tierra negra 60%, grava volcanica 20%, humus 20%, y me resultó bien para plantas bajo y medio, tengo encima de las tierra (sellar) arena fina natural, aún estoy probando que tamaño de arena sería buena que no m cause problemas alguien me dijo que arena fina no es bueno para sellar tierra, yo creo que está bien, cual es tu opinión o quién pueda leer dime tu opinión (haré otro sustrato per agregaré arcilla roja es bueno para aumentar el hierro) saludos desde Perú siempe activo en cada vídeo.
MD your videos are really great, I like your style and content generally. However, you need to follow up more on your builds. Most folk in the hobby can now setup an aquarium thanks to the enormous amount of content out there, but the pains of getting them going is something very few feature. Fill that gap Sir.
Question about gravel cleaning: I know why, to remove most of the dust on the rocks BUT, what happens if you don't? And I don't mean dirty water, does it affect the plants or fish? Long-term side effects? I hope that makes sense.
If you don't wash gravel, you can have a lot of dust in the water, which can actually choke the fish. It will eventually settle, but you'll have so much that it could coat the plant leaves and stop them from photosynthesising.
Yes have one empty tank ill will do same .. thank for giving as many ideas setting up fish tank..hope can find a supplier of aquarian product in Canada. especially in Saskatchewan or near city.. more power and more nee set up..
i'm on my first planted tank and the plants are having a bit of trouble despite picking 'easy' plants. Local fish store suggested the same issue with gas exchange with my sand capped set up, so I'll probably also switch to something different
I just began in the hobby a few months ago, and I was wondering if I could change a goldfish tank from artificial plants fish tank to a planted plant fish tank while the fish is inside, since I only have one tank, or would I have to do the planted tank first let it cycle and then place the goldfish later?
Hi MD, have you tried to carpet marselia hirusuta ? They don't need co2( they are one of the few) :) I love your low budget videos, have you tried to due a video with DYI CO2? That will be great :) thank you so much 😊❤️
It's complete nonsense! I've had a couple of these tanks (capped with pool filter sand) going for years. The gases produced from the potting compost do make their way through the 3" of sand quite easily on their own. They are also harmless.
Peat free is important if you care about the environment. Peat bogs are carbon sinks. Peatland stores twice as much carbon than forest do. The destruction of peatland (and the extraction of peat for various uses) is quite a concern.
I left this video on before falling asleep and had a nightmare about me owning a 125gal and it breaking and water spilling everywhere all over the carpet and furniture substrate spilled everywhere and fish dying... im still shook
API Starter Bacteria is OK, but i get more bang for my buck by adding pond muck and detritis to the soil layer under the sand cap. The tank is cycled instantly and completely.
Can you do a video with snipits of the plant die back, melts, algra blooms, and what you do or don't do for plant maintenance during the first few weeks of a new set up.
Endless tend to be a bit smaller and the males have this typical sword tail, where the bottom of their tail fin sticks out. Guppies have a bigger variety in colours. For a very long time they were called endler guppies, because they were assumed to be the same species, but they are now classified as their own species.
Love the video. Can you do a video on a budget tank. For me I can afford a small tank like from Petco. Can you do a video on making a betta fish tank using Petco small tank? Thanks
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Do you have a link to those metal sieves please? Great work!
Also curious about the sieve
Also interested in the sieves. Thank you!
Easy way to clean gravel - turn the bag into a sieve. Do this outside, cut the bottom corners, smaller than the size of the gravel, then poke little holes in the bottom of the bag. Then run the garden hose through the bag, shake the bag up once in a while until the water runs clear, bonus use run off water for the garden.
The whole point of walsad method is to avoid fertilizer and root tabs 23:36
The *best* compost you can buy is 100% Worm Castings, £6 per litre, zero need for sieving. Wash gravel using your sieves! - or a colander, which you can get for a couple of quid.
Ok thanks mate, will look out for it for the next one 👍
Get a wormery and feed it your scrap veg. Fascinated my kids when they were little.
I thought the rule was 85% of the substrate should be covered. Interested in the new plant you have. Out local shop has them
@@MDFishTanks as a gardener who has had wormeries and who also keeps tanks and a small above ground pond. I would think worm casts would be much too rich in nutrients for use in aquariums. I know you are aware aquatic soild tend to be lower in nutrients to prevent the nutrients from leeching into the water and making you cycle unbalanced. I realise you are pushing boundaries but I suspect it would be a nightmare starting from worm casts would make you nitrogen through the roof, you need soils where the nutrients will realese more slowly. Potting compost often have slower release nutrients like your root tabs in them I would stick with them.
@@CraigsOverijse opinó lo mismo, pero podría combinar tierra de maceta 80%, con tierra lombriz un 20% sería una combinación adecuada o eso creo, dará más nutrientes y no en exceso
The tank cleaning montage was so funny. As always a great vid, can't wait to see the progress
Right? XD
Although I did kind of want to see the montage… :D
This tank is so beautiful! I love the Walstad tanks so much - all those plants are just so lush!
I like how you showed the plants right in front of the camera with their label thing showing it’s name
Who wants to see a tank cleaning montage? LOL! I have been watching your channel for a long time and just love it. You have some really great ideas. Keep up the great work.
Most of his tanks don't get cleaned as i understand it. He creates mostly ecosystem tanks that self sustain and selfclean with enough plants to filters the water in a natural way, and algea eaters
Another good 'cap' you can utilize is bentonite clay granules (oil spill control granules). They are about £5 for a 20kg bag.
Once rinsed (you must rinse them as they are dusty!), they are smaller than the smallest gravel and coarser than sand. It also holds on to nutrients really well.
All these helpful comments are inspiring 💜
Good timing on this one as I'm just about to set up my first dirted tank. It's nice to get a visual on it right before I start!
loving the recent walstad method vids! Although it does limit the hardscape it lets the plants take the spotlight more
I really enjoy your style of production, your videos have so many artistic elements! The end shots are always 🤌🤌
Great little scape with lovely splashes of red! And I'm a big fan of that darker gravel.
Yes, that's beautiful. Some people could feel that's unnatural, but that's exact the floor of the spring nearby my house.
Washing the dishes, and set my phone up to find this gem. Good timing MD 🙏🏼
Always relaxing and enjoying.
Well, when I’m ready to start up again, this is exactly what I want to do. Keep on posting.
Dedication. Editing whilst on holiday. Sure I’ve seen you in looe bay yesterday
You did indeed 😁
Great set up MD. I'm looking forward to updates on your newest and oldest tanks.
Dude. I really gotta tell ya. You are a master !! This is a so brilliant tank!
im really looking forward to this in my opinion that gravel is too coarse but MD has proven me wrong on several occasions lol
Love the content as always these past few years were awesome learned alot from ja keep it going ,especially love watching the colab videos with Matt and the gang at the shop .
It's 2 weeks old now and the gravel is actually working do well
MD, all I can say is this is a beautiful tank. My cousin just got some of your discus merch and it looks soooo good on him! Definitely on my Christmas list
I've been waiting for you to do something like this. So simple but very beautiful! I love val and dwarf sag.. My favorite plants!
10:47 that stone looks like a heart
The tips you shared on feeding fish in a new tank was really helpful. Awesome videos funny and informative.
I read somewhere that it's not good to use peat moss as aquarium substrate but I can't understand why. a while back I mixed half peat moss and half lechuza pon which is basically a mixture of lava gravel, zeolite, pumic and a bit of slow release fertilizer.I also added a little bit of activated charcoal and capped it with sand and used it as substrate in a bowl. plants and a small betta fish living there were doing so well.even the difficult plants that Normally don't do well in my tanks unless I use RO water were thriving in that peat moss-lechuza pon substrate eventhough I never used any liquid or tablet fertilizer or CO2 and didn't do much water changes except first two weeks. the only issue was that it looked like black water for a while which I suppose is because peat moss releases the same thing that catapa leaves release. I don't know why peat moss won't work in a bigger aquarium
thanks md for your advice on plant food on an earlier vid, im now using tnc complete but also the api mixed together once a week for the added iron that the plants need and its made a massive difference.
Nice experience share. Mixed API does make sense.
chili rasbora are so cool. you should do a massive school of those at some point (like 36+)
Haha I actually did want to see the tank cleaning montage but even so I did appreciate your humor even more 😅
Please so tank updates!! 🙏 also i looove this setup cant wait to watch its progress
Given me some more ideas when it comes to re doing my tank ...... thanks to you and Matt we have 8 tanks now, and thinking of where we can put more ...... its an addiction 😆
Don't think this is you MD ......
You should consider a rice strainer for gravel, holes in the bottom for silt and bigger slots for sand and grit, plus you can force water through the bottom to help rinse better.
Simply amazing. Nothing else i can say💯✌🏼
Good Sunday to you MD!
Brilliant! Looking forward to the update.
Peat free compost is better all around. Peat helps retain moisture. But the thing is if you plan on keeping the tank set up for years the moss will break down and cause mold and other bad things. It's called peat moss. I dont have peat moss in any of my pots or tanks.
Good to know, thanks for sharing friend 👍
Litorella uniflora grows wild in the UK! Very surreal seeing a plant advertised for aquascaping growing extremely well in the freezing shallows of Loch Rannoch near where I live :)
it is a lovely plant; its native range extends all the way from morocco to iceland, truly a survivor
@@diamdante Yeah, such a unique shape as well. Really keen to use it in a scape soon, though I want to harvest it from the nearby area as an experiment.
In her book, Ms. Walstad cites the possibility of H2S in the soil. API root tabs does not contain sulfides in its formula? And that's why I'm curious and excited to follow the development of this aquarium!
Simply stunning.
MDistic shows another great fast low tec tank
Another beauty in the books! Thank you for all your inspiration and sharing your know how 😊
A question, what tweezers do you use ? They seem so easy to work with. Mine are way too stiff.
Can we get a follow up video in a month or two? Keep up the great work!
Gorgeous and so interesting as always
Hi you're wrong many a womans dream is watching guys cleaning up ! 😂 As always great videos thanks
love these scapes
No gas exchange... I don't know, if that's a bad thing. I put NPK houseplant granules on the very bottom, crushed lava rock bags, pond compost, then capped it with thick layer of pool filtration, then regular gravel. Sometimes there are bubbles of the gas released, from the anaerobic processes, but same thing happens in the nature streams.
It could be the thick layer used, it could be the combination of all, but it's the most stable tank I ever had. Started in June, no water changes... I'm doing regular checks, but the water parameters are better than my tap water. Normal algae levels and both fish and plants are healthy.
EDIT: Ironically I've done 50% water change a day or two after this comment and cleaned one of the filters. It turned out some red tetras got sick and easy targets for bigger fish, but I suspect food.
Always the best!
Soy Latino (Perú) no sé inglés mi único idioma es Español, llegue a ver tu canal de casualidad y resultó lo mejor que vi en YT, gracias a ti tus vídeos tengo mejor experiencias en diseño y acabado de acuario, y este vídeo me gusta porque es más natural y mas económico . Yo hago mi sustrato casero con tierra negra 60%, grava volcanica 20%, humus 20%, y me resultó bien para plantas bajo y medio, tengo encima de las tierra (sellar) arena fina natural, aún estoy probando que tamaño de arena sería buena que no m cause problemas alguien me dijo que arena fina no es bueno para sellar tierra, yo creo que está bien, cual es tu opinión o quién pueda leer dime tu opinión (haré otro sustrato per agregaré arcilla roja es bueno para aumentar el hierro) saludos desde Perú siempe activo en cada vídeo.
Fantastic display 👏 great advice as always I would love to show you my creation thanks to you. Well done and thank you.
Great walstadmethod. I love it.
MD your videos are really great, I like your style and content generally. However, you need to follow up more on your builds. Most folk in the hobby can now setup an aquarium thanks to the enormous amount of content out there, but the pains of getting them going is something very few feature. Fill that gap Sir.
Question about gravel cleaning: I know why, to remove most of the dust on the rocks BUT, what happens if you don't? And I don't mean dirty water, does it affect the plants or fish? Long-term side effects? I hope that makes sense.
If you don't wash gravel, you can have a lot of dust in the water, which can actually choke the fish. It will eventually settle, but you'll have so much that it could coat the plant leaves and stop them from photosynthesising.
Peat free means it will have a lot less impact on the ph of the aquarium, peat tends to be acidic if I remember correctly.
You are the Bob Ross of aquariums
Yes have one empty tank ill will do same .. thank for giving as many ideas setting up fish tank..hope can find a supplier of aquarian product in Canada. especially in Saskatchewan or near city.. more power and more nee set up..
i'm on my first planted tank and the plants are having a bit of trouble despite picking 'easy' plants. Local fish store suggested the same issue with gas exchange with my sand capped set up, so I'll probably also switch to something different
"Who wants to see a tank cleaning montage?"
Me: "Ooh me!"
Me: "oh......"
All this time I thought I was subscribed, youtube defo has you high in the analytics because I've seen all your post Anywho finally sub'd
I actually like that gravel a lot.
Is it necessary to put root tabs when you are using compost as base substrate?
Who knows lol...but ya know...TURBO MODE!!!!! 🤣🤣
@@MDFishTanks 😅 oh I see
@Marks Shrimp Tanks see!!! MD uses the exact same gel I use, lol
[Edit: @11:50 time stamp]
Love the concept of this tank. Low tech rules! Thanks for another awesome scape. I'm looking forward to updates...
I just began in the hobby a few months ago, and I was wondering if I could change a goldfish tank from artificial plants fish tank to a planted plant fish tank while the fish is inside, since I only have one tank, or would I have to do the planted tank first let it cycle and then place the goldfish later?
Hi MD, have you tried to carpet marselia hirusuta ? They don't need co2( they are one of the few) :) I love your low budget videos, have you tried to due a video with DYI CO2? That will be great :) thank you so much 😊❤️
Marselia or dwarf sag or monte? I want a carpet for my juwel vision 180 later? Without co2 of course.
21:15
No free nitrogen in your soil. All insoluble nitrogen.
Thats excellent.
another awesome video, but just a thought, why not use one of those nifty sieves you used to sieve the potting mix to clean the gravel?
What's the biggest red ludwigia you're using MD?
It's looking stunning. Looking forward for your reply
Actually, the gravel looks awesome!
Does this aquarium create biofilm on top?
Looks good
about the gas exchange, I've seen people poke the sand to let air bubbles out with wlastad. Not sure what it means but maybe important
It's complete nonsense! I've had a couple of these tanks (capped with pool filter sand) going for years.
The gases produced from the potting compost do make their way through the 3" of sand quite easily on their own. They are also harmless.
Thanks for the video.!
Woah those reds really popped out
Love how your transitioning to nano fishes but really miss seeing your videos with the discus or big fishes(medium-large) :(
Great vids mate.
hahaha amazing tank cleaning montage bravo 🤣👏
beatiful
Great video. Was there a reason for no cleanup crew?
Bravo from România
Peat free is important if you care about the environment. Peat bogs are carbon sinks. Peatland stores twice as much carbon than forest do.
The destruction of peatland (and the extraction of peat for various uses) is quite a concern.
Agree completely, especially as the peat is normally in there to retain moisture, so pointless for a fish tank
MD I love all your planted content.
But could you show me how to do a planted tank in a 20 Gallon long tank. For golden wonder killifish.
Update on the huge pond you help your friend with?
Legend has it that one petrified turd nugget from Takashi Amano has the ability to grow an entire lush forest in your tank
Is it OK to put big stones on the soil and cap in Walstad? I thought it was not. Thanks
Do you find with the tanks without filters that your fish need some water movement, maybe air stone?
Do you think your plants grow better in soil than in tropica aqua soil?
Nice tank that
Very curious how this experiment is going to go. Sounds like a great option for a low budget and lazy fish keeper.
Hey bro really love what u do
Would u mind working on a 20 gallon LONG tank
30:25 × 12.5 X 12.5.
Please
I left this video on before falling asleep and had a nightmare about me owning a 125gal and it breaking and water spilling everywhere all over the carpet and furniture substrate spilled everywhere and fish dying...
im still shook
API Starter Bacteria is OK, but i get more bang for my buck by adding pond muck and detritis to the soil layer under the sand cap.
The tank is cycled instantly and completely.
Nice 👌
Put a piece of Reynolds wrap on the top to fill it up with water
Can you do a video with snipits of the plant die back, melts, algra blooms, and what you do or don't do for plant maintenance during the first few weeks of a new set up.
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Have you ever considered setting up a marine tank?
Need your help here please what glue do you use for glueing plants and rocks together 😁👍
It must be cyanacrylate based (!) super glue
@@vEGan1909 thanks man
Great video. Can you provide a link for the sieve?
Hi, How do you disinfect your plants?
What is the difference between endlers and a guppy? Nice job!
Endless tend to be a bit smaller and the males have this typical sword tail, where the bottom of their tail fin sticks out. Guppies have a bigger variety in colours. For a very long time they were called endler guppies, because they were assumed to be the same species, but they are now classified as their own species.
@@llamalady Interesting. Thank you!
Love the video. Can you do a video on a budget tank. For me I can afford a small tank like from Petco. Can you do a video on making a betta fish tank using Petco small tank? Thanks
I always wonder where you get your tank filling/draining thingy from please (sorry, no idea what it's called....a fancy syphon?? 🤣)?