This looks really awesome.I really hope this does get a release date soon.I wasn’t sure whether this was just a short film piece or some kind of an edited together concept trailer, but it does seem legit. Really love the look at this one and will definitely be watching it.
Com certeza esse filme será mais uma maravilha da sétima arte e ficará na história como mais clássico do gênero ficção científica. Simplesmente imperdível essa obra prima do grande diretor Hashem Al-Gaili.
@@easymac2017 There are no shots in this trailer lifted from BR, although the building style looks VERY heavily influenced by Syd Mead's BR concept work. Design rip-offs aside, the effects are all original as far as I can tell.
@@newka5472 No. Dyson's sphere is based on the concept of harnessing the energy of the sun by building structures around it. Here, the structure is built around the earth.
Interesting idea, but the scale seems to be off. It looks as though it is designed at maybe 10k miles in diameter, but as shown The structure would be about 1,000 miles thick, some 50k miles in diameter, and probably 5k miles wide. It would have its own gravity. Probably the mass of the moon or more. It would tear the earth apart not to mention drastically change the climate. Besides, if you could build this, why build it around the earth? It could float somewhere on its own. It makes no sense.
Scale is Definitely off. It should be at geostationary orbit with thin space elevators connecting it to earth. There is no way the earth's crust could take the weight of the structure. A constellation of O'Neil cylinders would be be much more sensible.
I thought that as well. Plus, the amount of material needed to construct this gargantuan thing - where did it come from? Not the Earth - this thing appears to have about 1/3 the mass of our entire planet, yet the Earth still seems intact somehow.
@@mikespangler98 Earth's crust would be crushed, if "stands" on the crust in the first place. If it doesn't, then there would be need for "some structure below the crust" which would go right through Earth. But this also makes no sense, because the needed technology and also material would be much better and without as much effort be used elsewhere, as you mention in a HALO structure something similar. It looks cool - but only until you think about it :D
Aside from the general silliness of the orbital itself the visuals look stunning. It would have been much better if they had used an actual realistic design, one that wouldn't have collapsed under its own weight and not required more material that would realistically been available.
That was my immediate thought also. The thing clearly would have required probably more mass than is available in the entire asteroid belt. Which, I just looked up to be less than 3% of the mass of the Moon, so definitely more mass than is in any way feasible.
*thought the same thing...the mass alone would in all probability alter the gravitational effects of not only the moon but also attract a greater number of NEO's which is not a good thing whatsoever*
0:18 taken to scale, those climber cars are the size of Madagascar and leaving the ground terminus at mach 50. The excellent CGI and dramatic shadows are trying so hard to push thru a sense of scale, but it clashes with the absolute goofiness of actual design. The visuals want you to but you just can't take something that hilariously out of proportion seriously. Its a shame, the concept seems pretty cool, and you don't see enough orbital rings (which this really is not, with its big ass highway overpass pillars) on screen.
Remember, real orbital rings won't need massive support beams to keep them up. Minimal cable supports will keep it from drifting and allow mass-transport of people and goods to/from orbit. Isaac Arthur is an excellent YT channel all about this!
@@serronserron1320 Well, not as much as you'd think. The center of mass would still be roughly at the center of the earth, so the biggest thing that would affect the moon is how much added mass comes from the asteroid belt and other locations. Lots of this mass will probably come from the moon anyways, so the moon would probably feel the most effects from itself being lighter.
I'm impressed of all the comments here. I wasn't expecting so many people to understand how a functional orbital ring design actually looks. Why do movie directors always have to step a bit too far into the "fi" part in sci-fi? You can create an intriguing story and rich lore with an actual functional, realistic orbital ring. Anyway, here's hoping that the story will be much better than the actual ring design :)
I think that's the point. That it's not enough to have a orbital ring, but that the in-universe creator of that ring wanted it to be big as possible. To go beyond functional.
There's obviously a narrative focus on a struggle between the Ring Civilization and Planet Bound and that requires them to be large enough to have climactic effects for Earth. Also, obviously ego is part of the story as well. And perhaps hubris. A Real orbital ring would exist so far away from the planet it would probably only be visible to the human eye when lighting conditions are right (or it lit up - you can supposedly see a candle at 30 miles in darkness). I'm too lazy to do the calculations but you could probably build the ring itself 100 miles wide and still barely see it from the surface.
If we found a way to utilize the metal core of Mercury as a building material then maybe we could build something like this, but who knows what shifts our solar system would have if we did that. We would also be significantly altering the gravitational effects between the Earth and the Sun.
@@hibiscus779 Who needs the moon anyways? lol. One thing a lot of people seem to miss is that the earth and the solar system (and then entire universe) are in a balance that is mathematically impossible to have happened naturally. It is THE reason they had no choice, but to invent the "multiverse theory"... because they NEED infinite universes to be able to explain our one. It is so mathematically impossible that not even 16 Billion years could even explain it... and even more-so, not even a google years could explain the possibility of the galaxy coming into existence naturally. In fact, none of the scientific forces or laws of nature can be made possible mathematically in a google years... and that's not even remotely going into explaining LIFE in the universe or even the possibility of proteins, let alone DNA. It truly takes an impossible level of delusion and/or dishonesty to explain the universe (or any part of it) with any of the natural laws as we know them to be (...and we KNOW them to be). I just wish people would be more honest when it comes to science and not Force their religion (evolution) into the theories when it in fact does not even remotely fit the evidence. It is a religion of faith like any other.
This whole video could be summed up with a few separate sentences. "Tell me you know nothing about physics, without telling me you know nothing about physics." "Tell me you know nothing about orbital mechanics, without telling me you know nothing about orbital mechanics." "Tell me you have no sense of scale, without telling me you have no sense of scale." "Tell me you know nothing about engineering requirements for something like this, without telling me you know nothing about engineering requirements for something like this."
I agree with the commentator that said, " The physics wouldn't hold it together..." First of all, look at how massive it is, the very foundation covers whole states. With that kind of weight pressing down on the area of contact, would sink over time beneath the earth's crust. Summarily, the only way to engineer such a project would be a class 2 civilization. Not us a .78 civilization. Not to mention we haven't grown out of our adolescence as a species yet- wars, exploitation of the innocent, murder,thievery, etc.
Yes. When you can build such ring - you don't want to build such ring. In fact, most people already understand that it doesn't make sense to go for a stuff like that.
It should work similar to a space elevator. The orbiting part of the structure should pull away weight from the foundation. Should be a balanced equilibrium. But then again there would be no real reason to ever build such a thing but still, just an interesting concept nonetheless.
@@lordrahl7033, you may have a point, but with the planet being the center of gravity, it would seem a titanic problem. However, if it was made of aluminum, and built high enough , the moon could help establish that balance equibrium that you speak of. After all, the very satellite influences tides at sea levels.
Um, I know it's science FICTION, but ... There is no where near enough metal on the planet to make that stucture and no way in hell it could be constructed in one man's life time.
@@johncee853 If they had faster than light travel, then they would just colonize other worlds. Why would you bring half a world back to earth? Another, "real science" problem, is that thing would have very strange gravity. Elysium made more sense besause they could create artificial spin gravity.
@@johncee853 John. It took Voyager 1 took 3 years and 2 months to get to Saturn. But that was only possible because of very fortunate orbital positions of other planets which allowed it to get gravity assists. This meant that it did not have to carry anywhere near the fuel that it otherwise would have needed. Even so that would have been about a seven-year round trip just to bring back say one SUV worth stuff from Saturn. Can you see what we are up against here?
@@Shakespeare1612 James. It is beyond obvious that we are far, far, far more advanced in this compared to the 70s. It shows a manned spacecraft flying by Saturn. It shows lights, cities, on the moon. You are correct...they couldn't get all the material to build this from earth exclusively. I'm just taking the next logical step. If they have no warp, hyper drive, etc, how else do you see them getting the materials to build it? Kinda effing obvious to me buddy. I'm baffled as to why you don't understand this.
I just finished George C Clark’s “3001 the Final Odyssey “. In that book he describes an orbital that’s tethered to Earth with towers having a tensile strength of diamond and the orbital actually sits in Geostational orbit. The towers don’t support the orbital. They tether it, keeping it from flinging into space. From my POV this thing silly. Looks cool though, awesome graphics.
Visually stunning, but how would engineers account for the movement of our crustal plates which would move independently of each other over time? The structure seems to be anchored to the surface…
@@MollyHJohns - "What happened to Earth by then? Total destruction? Might be very interesting to read." - If you mean by that what happened in the book "3001"? First you have to know that Clarke wrote the book, "2001" as Kubrick was making the movie. (It's all in "The Making Of 2001"). While the storyline in the book and movie and very similar, in the movie humanities time has come to an end with the return of the Starchild; however Clarke decided to continue the story, after Voyager sent back images of the Jupiter system. No one had any idea what was really there before then. So in the book "2010" an American crew hitch a ride on a Russian manned mission to Jupiter to find out what happened to the Discovery. See book, and movie. Clarke went on to write "2067" which to be honest could have just been an unrelated sci-fi novel. Then he wrote "3001" to bring the storyline to an end. Of sorts. The body of Frank Poole, who was murdered by HAL in 2001 is found in 3001 on a very long orbit around the Sun, and is returned to Earth. You'll have to read the book to find out what happens next.
A structure that size will collapse under gravity. And where did they get the necessary materials anyways? You would have to strip some considerable portion of the others planets of the solar system to do it.
@@TheJabs123 sci-fi means Science fiction. It's fiction, but should be based (losely) on science. If not, is just fantasy, like the lords of the rings :-)
@@bugwar5545 Yea, you can tell g.o.a.t has not done his homework. lol There are already people working on designing orbital rings very similar to this. 🙂
@@thetrumanshow4791 No, no there absolutely is not people designing orbital rings similar to this because this ring is mathematically, physically, and resourcefully impossible even with science-fiction technology.
I think I read somewhere that all the asteroids in the asteroid belt, combined, have a volume a little bit less than that of the moon. So even if we could mine all those asteroids to build something like this, it wouldn't be enough for the scale of the megastructure in _this_ trailer.
Nice! Looks great! Only there is a lack in internal consistency: With megastructures like that you are post-scarcity and don't need to worry about crops or a lack of direct sunlight anymore. The technology allows you a million workarounds ;-)
Yeah, considering the scale of the ring, you could really just now disconnected from the Earth and have it floating freely as an entirely self-sustaining station or an orbiting ring around the Sun.
@@danielwhyatt3278 Without one side of the Ring getting too close to the Earth and dragging the entire structure down on the planet killing billions of people
@@serronserron1320 this is basically a precursor to a Matrioshka shell world. I would anker it with cables and not massive pillars. In theory you dont have to anker it at all.
Instead of building the ring arround the sole inhabitable planet in dozens of light-years. It would be more feasible to do it in another planet or moon in the solar system with lots of resources to explore below and without the risk of killing all life on the surface.
@@exukvera Well, you would just start with O'Neill cylinders for a habitat. However, a orbital ring around a planet or moon and tethered to the surface could have a large industrial potential and may do a lot for transportation, climate control and stuff like that. It would be much thinner than what is shown in this movie I guess.
There isn't anywhere near the amount of metal/resources to build that around the globe. Even mining other planets/asteroids in our solar system still probably wouldn't yield that much metal. None-the-less, I would still like to watch this.
si le metal on la en quantité pharaonique dans la ceinture d astéroïde , c'est plutôt une question de temps ou faut se poser la question et quelle technique pour faire ca la est question fondamentale
That was my thought as well. The entire asteroid belt alone isn't enough. I think it's cool from a visual point but not even a remotely logical way to make rings around the earth.
"Hey so... we built a planet sized rings that probably took a whole another planet just to have resources to make it. There are probably hundreds of millions if not billions of people living on the rings..." "Don't you guys think they kinda obstruct the sun? Dunno, kinda annoys me i guess. You think we can remove them?" Really? Like, really?
1:05, channelling star trek voyager, even managed to make the rings look about 3 miles diameter too just like they did. I am always curious how this can all be plugged into computer, and still manage to get the scale completely off like this.
Yeah I just don't see how this day and age science fiction thinks they can get away with bad scaling and physics like this, given how educated we are as an audience.
I'd love to know how it is supposed to anchor to the planet's surface, because if the stresses out in orbit are intense what is happening at 1g must require something magical to work.
I was about to say this, there's no way we can get that much material from earth to make something like that regardless, i mean that ring is at least 1000x bigger than EVERYTHING we built combined through out thousands of years of civilization.
The story seems to me that of Elysium Film of 2013 with Matt Damon, but from the trailer it seems very well done and I glimpsed cyberpunk atmospheres, I absolutely have to see it 🙂
I really did get instantaneous Elysium vibes at the moment I saw the thumbnail. Definitely feels like a similar architectural style. All it needs now is higher-level graphics and realistic architectural design for the attachment points to the Earth, and we would definitely have something similar to that directors work here.
There is an old sci-fi short, I don't remember he details any more. From the 1980s or earlier. The story was about a huge alien creature (perhaps the size of this structure or close) which landed on Earth and basically (I am avoiding spoilers as this info is right at the start) broke havoc on the planet and on the human civilization, basically bringing humans back thousands of years in technology. Fantastic story I still remember, but not more details like the title of it. This trailer reminded me of that story.
@@Soguwe if they had the means to mine it either from space or nearby celestial bodies, they wouldn't have to tie it to earth, they would have already become a spacefaring race. The structure is causing a huge drawback on earth's energy received by the sun with huge casted shadows thst would do more bad than good, also, the amount of mineable meteorites would have destroyed the earth if they mined it from one that landed on earth.
@@lolhcd They're cruising along Saturn's rings in either ridiculously large manned ships or they left the solarsystem altogether and found a smol planet with smol rings Either way, they have the technology to get some sweet sweet asteroid metals And keeping them from crashing on earth is surprisingly easy, we could do it today, if anyone wanted to fund it Anyway, it's a dumb trailer for a stupid concept, I wouldn't waste that much energy thinking about it
@@Soguwe First of all, the collective mass of every asteroid in the solar system is less than 3% of the mass of the moon. This structure has well over 90% the mass of the moon. Second, the structure itself would generate gravity causing havoc on earth's ecosystem. Third, this is absolutely no possible way of us doing it today. Even if every human on the planet suddenly dedicated themselves to building this structure, we simply do not have the industrial might or the resources to make something even remotely like this. It just isn't mathematically feasible. Physics, math, will power, resources, industrial might all collectively say absolutely not when even considering an object like this. Stop spreading misinformation on the internet.
Tag lines... "One small step for a man, one giant circle jerk for mankind." "Elysium 3...we were too ashamed of the 2nd film to release it." "When I said ring me I think you misunderstood." "6G towers are bigger than expected. " "Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water. " (I know it has nothing to do with the film, but it's still the greatest tagline of all time!)
I like the design where its connect to the earth with those massive pillars. Reminds me of Midgar from Final Fantasy 7 - the way the upper levels blocked out the sun from the poor lower levels
The production values look great and I'm interested to see this for where the story goes... but the physical construct of the ring is off in multiple ways. The footprints look like they're the size of Australia each in the overhead "from space" shots, and likewise the elevators we see going up and down are simply enormous, New York City-sized things when in comparison to the Earth in those same shots; the legs are so thick they probably have the mass of Europe each, completely unnecessary when an orbital ring just needs to be kept from drifting out of position, it can't "fall down"; there is _so_ _much_ mass in the ring and legs that you'd need to mine most of the moon's mass in appropriate metals to build something that huge, I doubt there is enough usable material on the Earth and moon alone to produce such a structure. Overall, the scale of the ring in comparison to Earth is just really "too much." But to overlook that, maybe the rest of the film will be pretty good? Let's hope.
Let me guess the plot of this movie: rich people lives in the Orbial, poor people lives on Earth. People on Earth lives in bad conditions due to the Orbital's influence, so they start a riot meanwhile the people who design the Orbital gets greed and their actions starts to be a threaten to Orbital's existence.
@@rickbiessman6084 It's intended as a what if. What would the issues be IF this thing existed. It's not about the environmental study phase or anything. People taking this way too literally.
@@mycroft16 I understand that, but I think everyone has a certain minimum threshold of plausibility that a piece of fiction needs to pass for them, otherweise they won’t buy it. For me, this movie stays way below that threshold. "Willing dispension of disbelief" is a vital part of consuming fiction of any kind, but I am not willing to suspend my disbelief that much. ;) I think this is just too much to ask - kind of reminds me of the crazy stories I’d come up with as a kid. And it’s silly to expect an adult to accept such an implausible plot. Btw. I think it’s important to distinguish "implausible" from "unrealistic". Unrealistic is fine, but there should be some inherent logic to the lack of realism. I just don’t see that here.
Visually, this looks extremely promising. The fact that it’s impossible to build something like this with any material known to us - not a big deal to me because with sci fi, it’s the idea that counts. BUT: ...you’re telling me that one guy managed to pull of building a gigantic orbital ring about earth and then, only AFTER the fact, people realize "meh, maybe it wasn’t such a great idea"? COME ON!!! There are two things fundamentally wrong with this: 1) If someone is smart enough to realize a project like this, he’d be smart enough to realize it must not be done. You’d need a heck of an explanation why this character would be so smart AND so dumb at the same time. 2) Blocking the sun and shifting so much weight from earth into the orbit would have unforseeable consequences. You’d need a heck of an explanation why the rest of humanity would go along with this. Maybe there are decent explanations in the movie. But I won’t bother finding out because this is just so mind-numbingly stupid.
On Bloomberg, there was an article from last summer stating that the EU looks into blocking out the sun as climate efforts falter. As the planet seems to heat up way faster than expected, it may be a tempting solution even with the unforeseeable consequences. So depending of the context of the film, this orbital superstructure may be considered as a way to stop climate change, which went wrong. Also, many smart individuals invented combustion engine, plastic, etc. Some discovered radium and radiation and many stuff... And today we have to deal with a climate crisis because too much CO2, plastic even in the atmosphere, nuclear bombs, etc. Being smart isn't the same than being all-knowing.
"If someone is smart enough to realize a project like this, he’d be smart enough to realize it must not be done." lol you don't know much about real life billionaires, do you? Agreed the entire premise is ridiculous though.
@@ImVeryOriginal Some billionaires are willing to murderiously take advantage of others, no doubt. But they’re not stupid to the point of destroying the planet which would kill them too. In a scenario like this one, they’d go like "uh, I don’t give a crap about everyone else, but if I go through with it, I’m going down with them. Maybe hold off on that."
@@rickbiessman6084 Petrol companies have known about man-made global warming since the 70's, poured billions of dollars into propaganda denying it, and continue to do so despite the evidence being undeniable at this point. They are *exactly* stupid, greedy and arrogant enough to ruin the planet while thinking they're above the consequences and their money will shield them from going down with everyone else. Google Douglas Rushkoff - he's a tech writer who once got invited to a private island by 5 billionaires under the pretense of talking about tech trends. Turned out what they really wanted to talk about is how they can survive the upcoming "event" (societal collapse). It's fucking chilling. Here's a quote: "Finally, the CEO of a brokerage house explained that he had nearly completed building his own underground bunker system, and asked: “How do I maintain authority over my security force after the event?” The event. That was their euphemism for the environmental collapse, social unrest, nuclear explosion, solar storm, unstoppable virus, or malicious computer hack that takes everything down." The whole article: www(dot)theguardian(dot)com/news/2022/sep/04/super-rich-prepper-bunkers-apocalypse-survival-richest-rushkoff
@@rickbiessman6084 Petrol companies have known about man-made global warming since the 70's, poured billions into propaganda denying it and keep doing so despite the evidence being undeniable now and potential consequences catastrophic. They are *exactly* stupid, greedy and arrogant enough to think their money can shield them from going down with everyone else. Google David Rushkoff, he's a tech writer who once got invited to a private island by some billionaires to discuss tech trends. Turns out what they really wanted to talk about is how to survive the upcoming "event" (total societal collapse). One of them admits he already started building his underground bunker network and asks "how do I keep control of my security force after the event?". The title is "The super-rich ‘preppers’ planning to save themselves from the apocalypse" - I recommend reading the whole thing, it's bone-chilling.
First of all, If you want to have a ring, you dont need to attach it to the earth. Its easier to construct it such that it orbits withbout being attached. Secondly it would make dense to have the broad edge of the ring perpendicular to the earth, like the rings of saturn. That way to dont block light from the sun. Bad design overall.
Isn't the scale of this off by a lot? I see individual windows on something that's supposed to be hundreds of miles across and elevators that would be the size of cities.
@@cindydott452 hence science fiction...It doesn't need to be perfect or accurate...If it can capture the imagination and suspend the disbelief of rational mind then that science fiction has succeeded in its purpose.
This very much looks like a big budget production with a big imagination (whether that's the case or not!). Will be following this space carefully. Looks amazing.
My first question is where in (bleep) did he get the material to construct all of that? Seriously, I didn't notice the Earth suddenly missing a major portion of it's mass...
@@bugwar5545 And TWO, considering that Earth's structure is a thin shell over a liquid core, How much deformation of the Earth would have occurred when that much extra mass was applied to the crust? (*sigh*) I think I just saw Newton jumping out the window there... Then again, my generation had Ringworld, so who am I to complain?
WOW! I'm very uncertain if it could ever be built (cost, materials etc) but what an idea! The concept of a globe encircling ring has been used in a scifi novel, one of Arthur C. Clarke's if memory serves me correctly, so a visual depiction will be very interesting to see!
Honestly, with a much more efficient and practical design, an orbital ring is an extremely useful piece of tech to build. It wouldn't have to be even a fraction of this size and mass and would make travel in near Earth space a cakewalk. As far as anything easy in outer space can possibly be.
Could’ve literally built a Death Star (without the planet killing laser) as a station and therefore avoided the whole having it connected to earth issue. Or built it onto the moon instead perhaps
Jesus Christ! Is everyone here, in the comment section, an outer space industrial design architecture or space station engineer?…………lol….no seriously guys….is this really a full feature film? Or some concept fan film mesh?……I hope to G.O.D. its a full featured film………..in theaters or imax would be swell! I guess I can always watch it on my iPad, while dropping a deuce if needed…..beggars can’t be choosers! Or can they?
As I watched this I thought, wouldn't having a structure that large effect global environment and also doesn't it effect earths gravity as well? I guess these are the plot point. plus the whole social economics and social divide.
Hey this looks absolutely amazing maybe add some more brilliance and saturation to the earth in distant shots. Besides that looks amazing. Maybe deepen the shadows just a little bit in some places.
wow , great visuals !!! massive applause for you guys who model and create this amazing structures , i cant wait to see the movie ! ( p.s. WILL IT BE SHORT FILMS OR LONG LENGTH MOVIE ? )
WOW, this looks so coool ! I had the same same idea of an orbital ring around the earth but it was not attached to it. Anyway, the story seems just great, incredible visuals and I can't wait to see the movie !
WHY DO WE THINK IN PROJECTS MORE REALISTICS, LIKE REFOREST EARTH WITH BILLIONS OF TREES? Nobody in the Media are talking about that! It's incredible that the nations didn't consider the most simple idea! We nees to restore our planeta!
Желание господствовать одних над другими, милитаризм ведут к большему потреблению ресурсов, большему загрязнению окружающей среды и этот процесс необратим. The desire to dominate some over others, militarism, leads to greater consumption of resources, greater pollution of the environment and this process is irreversible.
While I love that megastructures are finally being used more in films, this seems a bit… off… It’s like whoever came up with the concept learned just enough about orbital rings to know what they are and how they’d look, but just kinda stopped there. They’re way too large for one. I don’t care what super materials you’ve got, that’s just not gonna work. Even if it did, it’s totally impractical. The giant pillars are completely superfluous. Active support would works way better.
I think they're less interested in the reality of the mega structures than the narrative function. I imagine it's going to be about ego / hubris, Man vs Nature, sociopolitical commentary, etc. A "real" orbital ring doesn't need to be large at all. Like as wide as an interstate highway, maybe less. I could imagine a society with just one ring to start bootstrapping many many others until the Earth was covered in what looked like a ball of twine but the distance they operate at is so far you still wouldn't have problems with them blocking out sunlight. Even if you're "Dysoning up" the planet into a shellworld or matrioshka world, you want to spend your mass budget on the plates not the pillars and you can just keep speeding up the core of the ring past orbital velocities to create more dynamic strength.
@@bryanl1984 Yeah but you can tell those stories without throwing logic and physics out the window. If anything, realism makes most things better. Just look at The Expanse.
This looks impressive. And it appears to be addressing a large range of real issues such a construct would create. Looking forward to seeing this. It looks epic. Hopefully it's not been released yet because it's being made into a mini-series. It could be that good - an entire world of impact.
@@BobRooney290 Gravity would be the real "puller" on those structures. But you're correct on the problem. The engineering would be far beyond what we can do. The cost alone would bankrupt the planet. Arthur C. Clarke wrote a novel about such a project, "The Fountains of Paradise". Good read. The project in the novel required a material not available then or now - 44 years later.
@@BobRooney290 Unless you had an anti grav field to relieve the load from every thousand feet the entire structure would collapse. Also these fields would essentially explain how the pillars could stand at all, without those fields the pillars alone would sink into the earth due to enormous pressures exerted on the planet.
This looks really awesome.I really hope this does get a release date soon.I wasn’t sure whether this was just a short film piece or some kind of an edited together concept trailer, but it does seem legit. Really love the look at this one and will definitely be watching it.
Com certeza esse filme será mais uma maravilha da sétima arte e ficará na história como mais clássico do gênero ficção científica. Simplesmente imperdível essa obra prima do grande diretor Hashem Al-Gaili.
Its not legit lol. One of the scenes is literally a stolen shot from the first blade runner with the "randolf industries" placed over it. 1:38
@@easymac2017 You mean at 1:38? I don't remember that exact scenery from Blade runner - can you give the reference?
@@easymac2017 There are no shots in this trailer lifted from BR, although the building style looks VERY heavily influenced by Syd Mead's BR concept work. Design rip-offs aside, the effects are all original as far as I can tell.
Ah, nice Eureka pfp I see you're a man of culture as well
The question is does the earth have enough matter to get such a structure built. I don't think so.
Even if we did, we lack the tech to build something like that which wouldn't be ripped apart by the stresses on it.
And how on Earth would we be able to build something like that so fast we wouldn't see the negative effects before it is finished?
Is this a representation of the dyson sphere that has been demonstrated in the theory of the Kardashev scale of civilisation?
@@newka5472 No. Dyson's sphere is based on the concept of harnessing the energy of the sun by building structures around it. Here, the structure is built around the earth.
@@Haan22 We'd have to have technology way beyond anything we've seen in science fiction, let alone hypothesised in real world physics.
Interesting idea, but the scale seems to be off. It looks as though it is designed at maybe 10k miles in diameter, but as shown The structure would be about 1,000 miles thick, some 50k miles in diameter, and probably 5k miles wide. It would have its own gravity. Probably the mass of the moon or more. It would tear the earth apart not to mention drastically change the climate. Besides, if you could build this, why build it around the earth? It could float somewhere on its own. It makes no sense.
Scale is Definitely off. It should be at geostationary orbit with thin space elevators connecting it to earth.
There is no way the earth's crust could take the weight of the structure.
A constellation of O'Neil cylinders would be be much more sensible.
"It makes no sense."
Now that is a woke movie premise.
I thought that as well. Plus, the amount of material needed to construct this gargantuan thing - where did it come from? Not the Earth - this thing appears to have about 1/3 the mass of our entire planet, yet the Earth still seems intact somehow.
@@mikespangler98 Earth's crust would be crushed, if "stands" on the crust in the first place. If it doesn't, then there would be need for "some structure below the crust" which would go right through Earth. But this also makes no sense, because the needed technology and also material would be much better and without as much effort be used elsewhere, as you mention in a HALO structure something similar.
It looks cool - but only until you think about it :D
Yea, each one of those elevators appears to about the size of New Hampshire
Aside from the general silliness of the orbital itself the visuals look stunning. It would have been much better if they had used an actual realistic design, one that wouldn't have collapsed under its own weight and not required more material that would realistically been available.
That was my immediate thought also. The thing clearly would have required probably more mass than is available in the entire asteroid belt. Which, I just looked up to be less than 3% of the mass of the Moon, so definitely more mass than is in any way feasible.
the size of the pods going to the ring made me rofl, they must be larger than NY....
I was thinking the same thing. There’s not enough metal on earth to build that. Maybe they address it.
*thought the same thing...the mass alone would in all probability alter the gravitational effects of not only the moon but also attract a greater number of NEO's which is not a good thing whatsoever*
@@scottmantooth8785 Yeah, well if we could build that structure, I'd be willing to bet we could deal with any incoming NEOs
0:18 taken to scale, those climber cars are the size of Madagascar and leaving the ground terminus at mach 50. The excellent CGI and dramatic shadows are trying so hard to push thru a sense of scale, but it clashes with the absolute goofiness of actual design. The visuals want you to but you just can't take something that hilariously out of proportion seriously. Its a shame, the concept seems pretty cool, and you don't see enough orbital rings (which this really is not, with its big ass highway overpass pillars) on screen.
Windows the size of cities.
Make me think of such a structure from Clark's novel 3001.
Remember, real orbital rings won't need massive support beams to keep them up. Minimal cable supports will keep it from drifting and allow mass-transport of people and goods to/from orbit. Isaac Arthur is an excellent YT channel all about this!
I wonder what gravitational effects the moon would have on such massive structures in space.
@@serronserron1320 Well, not as much as you'd think. The center of mass would still be roughly at the center of the earth, so the biggest thing that would affect the moon is how much added mass comes from the asteroid belt and other locations. Lots of this mass will probably come from the moon anyways, so the moon would probably feel the most effects from itself being lighter.
I was planning to post this on Issac's page... until I realized that it's against building megastructures.
Yep, every time I come across a new sci-fi movie/show I keep thinking: "this is stupid, they should watch Isaac Arthur's videos." lol
Same thing here. Amateurs... LOL
funny how a movie can look expensive yet cheap at the same time xD
The message is more important than the quality
@@PuchoSprite what a dumb comment
This story is a prime example of science fiction with a less than no amount in realism
still did not hit the rock bottom that Moonfall set
the dialog has the charm and natural flow you see when interviewing politicians.
I'm impressed of all the comments here. I wasn't expecting so many people to understand how a functional orbital ring design actually looks. Why do movie directors always have to step a bit too far into the "fi" part in sci-fi? You can create an intriguing story and rich lore with an actual functional, realistic orbital ring. Anyway, here's hoping that the story will be much better than the actual ring design :)
I think that's the point. That it's not enough to have a orbital ring, but that the in-universe creator of that ring wanted it to be big as possible. To go beyond functional.
@@ligtningdog6399 except that the thing represented in the movie is not even an orbital structure but some kind of overpass…
They copied this from the Anime Gundam 00
There's obviously a narrative focus on a struggle between the Ring Civilization and Planet Bound and that requires them to be large enough to have climactic effects for Earth. Also, obviously ego is part of the story as well. And perhaps hubris. A Real orbital ring would exist so far away from the planet it would probably only be visible to the human eye when lighting conditions are right (or it lit up - you can supposedly see a candle at 30 miles in darkness). I'm too lazy to do the calculations but you could probably build the ring itself 100 miles wide and still barely see it from the surface.
it's not that impressive, the writer is clearly stupid
It was nice seeing the elevators the size of NYC travelling up and down at Mach 43.
haha for real, the scale is super wacky
If we found a way to utilize the metal core of Mercury as a building material then maybe we could build something like this, but who knows what shifts our solar system would have if we did that. We would also be significantly altering the gravitational effects between the Earth and the Sun.
@@helenmilenski861 and the moon...
@@hibiscus779 Who needs the moon anyways? lol. One thing a lot of people seem to miss is that the earth and the solar system (and then entire universe) are in a balance that is mathematically impossible to have happened naturally. It is THE reason they had no choice, but to invent the "multiverse theory"... because they NEED infinite universes to be able to explain our one. It is so mathematically impossible that not even 16 Billion years could even explain it... and even more-so, not even a google years could explain the possibility of the galaxy coming into existence naturally. In fact, none of the scientific forces or laws of nature can be made possible mathematically in a google years... and that's not even remotely going into explaining LIFE in the universe or even the possibility of proteins, let alone DNA. It truly takes an impossible level of delusion and/or dishonesty to explain the universe (or any part of it) with any of the natural laws as we know them to be (...and we KNOW them to be). I just wish people would be more honest when it comes to science and not Force their religion (evolution) into the theories when it in fact does not even remotely fit the evidence. It is a religion of faith like any other.
@@helenmilenski861at that point, just bring mercury to earth orbit. Yes, the entire planet
This whole video could be summed up with a few separate sentences.
"Tell me you know nothing about physics, without telling me you know nothing about physics."
"Tell me you know nothing about orbital mechanics, without telling me you know nothing about orbital mechanics."
"Tell me you have no sense of scale, without telling me you have no sense of scale."
"Tell me you know nothing about engineering requirements for something like this, without telling me you know nothing about engineering requirements for something like this."
In other words, "Don't *tell* me you know nothing, *SHOW* me you know nothing." 🤢
Your comment can be summed up by "tell me you're a douchebag without telling me you're douchebag."
I agree with the commentator that said, " The physics wouldn't hold it together..." First of all, look at how massive it is, the very foundation covers whole states. With that kind of weight pressing down on the area of contact, would sink over time beneath the earth's crust. Summarily, the only way to engineer such a project would be a class 2 civilization. Not us a .78 civilization. Not to mention we haven't grown out of our adolescence as a species yet- wars, exploitation of the innocent, murder,thievery, etc.
Yes. When you can build such ring - you don't want to build such ring.
In fact, most people already understand that it doesn't make sense to go for a stuff like that.
@pyropulse gravity
It should work similar to a space elevator. The orbiting part of the structure should pull away weight from the foundation. Should be a balanced equilibrium. But then again there would be no real reason to ever build such a thing but still, just an interesting concept nonetheless.
@@lordrahl7033, you may have a point, but with the planet being the center of gravity, it would seem a titanic problem. However, if it was made of aluminum, and built high enough , the moon could help establish that balance equibrium that you speak of. After all, the very satellite influences tides at sea levels.
What would change? Man is childish.
Um, I know it's science FICTION, but ... There is no where near enough metal on the planet to make that stucture and no way in hell it could be constructed in one man's life time.
Could have mined it off of other planets, moons, asteroids...etc...
@@johncee853 If they had faster than light travel, then they would just colonize other worlds. Why would you bring half a world back to earth? Another, "real science" problem, is that thing would have very strange gravity. Elysium made more sense besause they could create artificial spin gravity.
@@Shakespeare1612 Planets in our solar system...
@@johncee853 John. It took Voyager 1 took 3 years and 2 months to get to Saturn. But that was only possible because of very fortunate orbital positions of other planets which allowed it to get gravity assists. This meant that it did not have to carry anywhere near the fuel that it otherwise would have needed. Even so that would have been about a seven-year round trip just to bring back say one SUV worth stuff from Saturn. Can you see what we are up against here?
@@Shakespeare1612 James. It is beyond obvious that we are far, far, far more advanced in this compared to the 70s. It shows a manned spacecraft flying by Saturn. It shows lights, cities, on the moon. You are correct...they couldn't get all the material to build this from earth exclusively. I'm just taking the next logical step. If they have no warp, hyper drive, etc, how else do you see them getting the materials to build it? Kinda effing obvious to me buddy. I'm baffled as to why you don't understand this.
I just finished George C Clark’s “3001 the Final Odyssey “. In that book he describes an orbital that’s tethered to Earth with towers having a tensile strength of diamond and the orbital actually sits in Geostational orbit. The towers don’t support the orbital. They tether it, keeping it from flinging into space. From my POV this thing silly. Looks cool though, awesome graphics.
Clark's first name is Arthur. The Fountains of Paradise is the book you just finished.
@@petrschutz9723 He also included the idea in 3001.
Graphics is not everything. Avatar and Transformers are the proof of that.
I’m assuming that this movie was either canceled or put on hold indefinitely, haven’t been able to find anything out in terms of production.
Visually stunning, but how would engineers account for the movement of our crustal plates which would move independently of each other over time? The structure seems to be anchored to the surface…
"... how would engineers..."
You silly.
Woke narrative movies don't need no basis in reality.
In "3001" Arthur C. Clarke had the majority of humanity living in an orbital ring connected to Earth by 5 towers.
The comment that I was looking for.
What happened to Earth by then? Total destruction? Might be very interesting to read.
@@MollyHJohns - "What happened to Earth by then? Total destruction? Might be very interesting to read." - If you mean by that what happened in the book "3001"? First you have to know that Clarke wrote the book, "2001" as Kubrick was making the movie. (It's all in "The Making Of 2001"). While the storyline in the book and movie and very similar, in the movie humanities time has come to an end with the return of the Starchild; however Clarke decided to continue the story, after Voyager sent back images of the Jupiter system. No one had any idea what was really there before then. So in the book "2010" an American crew hitch a ride on a Russian manned mission to Jupiter to find out what happened to the Discovery. See book, and movie. Clarke went on to write "2067" which to be honest could have just been an unrelated sci-fi novel. Then he wrote "3001" to bring the storyline to an end. Of sorts. The body of Frank Poole, who was murdered by HAL in 2001 is found in 3001 on a very long orbit around the Sun, and is returned to Earth. You'll have to read the book to find out what happens next.
That could take hundreds of years to get built!!
How was that one man's dream... And look young...
Yeezys this writers...
it makes absolutely no sense. It's just another anti-science, anti-progress movie.
With micro robots, its doable in less than 10 years..
they just want you to hate elon musk.
@@Brismo7 Yep. Small and jealous minds
You do realize that they show in the trailer what looks to be cryo tubes at 1:03? He could have frozen himself to live longer.
They would have to mine the ENTIRE solar system for that much metal!!
It should be...
"One man's dream, mankind's nightmare..."
It would require many millions of people to build such a structure as well as the cooperation of numerous businesses and governments.
Looks fantastic but compulsory purchase of whole countries to support the thing might take a bit of doing !
A structure that size will collapse under gravity. And where did they get the necessary materials anyways? You would have to strip some considerable portion of the others planets of the solar system to do it.
Hope you understand sci-fi movie term
@@TheJabs123 sci-fi means Science fiction. It's fiction, but should be based (losely) on science. If not, is just fantasy, like the lords of the rings :-)
@@DVinciFradiqueBraga okay cool
@@TheJabs123 Don't get me wrong, It seems like a cool movie, and I will watch it. I'ts just the size of that ring that bugs me.
@@DVinciFradiqueBraga yes I respect everyone's view, I will watch too 😁
A ring like this around earth would shred it to pieces
Nope.
Woke physics.
@@bugwar5545 Yea, you can tell g.o.a.t has not done his homework. lol
There are already people working on designing orbital rings very similar to this. 🙂
@@thetrumanshow4791 if ppl are designing rings "similar to this" those ppl are 5yo kindergarteners... :DDD
@@thetrumanshow4791 No, no there absolutely is not people designing orbital rings similar to this because this ring is mathematically, physically, and resourcefully impossible even with science-fiction technology.
@@thetrumanshow4791 Reread what I sent you. You said there was people working on it, I said there isn't.
Even if we devoured moon, I think we could only make the miniature version of this fella🤷♂️
I think I read somewhere that all the asteroids in the asteroid belt, combined, have a volume a little bit less than that of the moon. So even if we could mine all those asteroids to build something like this, it wouldn't be enough for the scale of the megastructure in _this_ trailer.
Ah yes, a metal mega structure bigger than the planet made with the limited metal inside it. So logical...
Now you understand the basis of the woke narrative.
Nice! Looks great! Only there is a lack in internal consistency: With megastructures like that you are post-scarcity and don't need to worry about crops or a lack of direct sunlight anymore. The technology allows you a million workarounds ;-)
Yeah, considering the scale of the ring, you could really just now disconnected from the Earth and have it floating freely as an entirely self-sustaining station or an orbiting ring around the Sun.
@@danielwhyatt3278 Without one side of the Ring getting too close to the Earth and dragging the entire structure down on the planet killing billions of people
@@serronserron1320 this is basically a precursor to a Matrioshka shell world. I would anker it with cables and not massive pillars. In theory you dont have to anker it at all.
Instead of building the ring arround the sole inhabitable planet in dozens of light-years. It would be more feasible to do it in another planet or moon in the solar system with lots of resources to explore below and without the risk of killing all life on the surface.
@@exukvera Well, you would just start with O'Neill cylinders for a habitat. However, a orbital ring around a planet or moon and tethered to the surface could have a large industrial potential and may do a lot for transportation, climate control and stuff like that. It would be much thinner than what is shown in this movie I guess.
There isn't anywhere near the amount of metal/resources to build that around the globe. Even mining other planets/asteroids in our solar system still probably wouldn't yield that much metal. None-the-less, I would still like to watch this.
si le metal on la en quantité pharaonique dans la ceinture d astéroïde , c'est plutôt une question de temps ou faut se poser la question et quelle technique pour faire ca la est question fondamentale
That was my thought as well. The entire asteroid belt alone isn't enough. I think it's cool from a visual point but not even a remotely logical way to make rings around the earth.
"Hey so... we built a planet sized rings that probably took a whole another planet just to have resources to make it. There are probably hundreds of millions if not billions of people living on the rings..."
"Don't you guys think they kinda obstruct the sun? Dunno, kinda annoys me i guess. You think we can remove them?"
Really? Like, really?
1:05, channelling star trek voyager, even managed to make the rings look about 3 miles diameter too just like they did. I am always curious how this can all be plugged into computer, and still manage to get the scale completely off like this.
because someone said they wanted it to look a certain way, physics be damned.
Yeah I just don't see how this day and age science fiction thinks they can get away with bad scaling and physics like this, given how educated we are as an audience.
Anyone know if it's still coming out or where I can get updates? This film seems fascinating.
Whatever the physics, just looking forward to see how the film will deal with what it has to tell. It looks awesome and promising!
lol no it doesn't, it looks shite.
The amount of metals used to make these rings seems to have been blown out of proportion if it came from earth!
I can feel my physics knowledge absolutely shitting itself right now
Woke narrative flicks don't need no 'physics'.
That is patriarchy dogma corrupting your pristine feelings.
The scale of the ring compared to the planet is completely ridiculously off.
It looks absurd.
I'd love to know how it is supposed to anchor to the planet's surface, because if the stresses out in orbit are intense what is happening at 1g must require something magical to work.
I was about to say this, there's no way we can get that much material from earth to make something like that regardless, i mean that ring is at least 1000x bigger than EVERYTHING we built combined through out thousands of years of civilization.
I'd call it "Halo: Eddie Murphy edition"
@@JollywoodJoel Building such a big structure requires hightech which also means we are able to get materials from outside the Earth.
The story seems to me that of Elysium Film of 2013 with Matt Damon, but from the trailer it seems very well done and I glimpsed cyberpunk atmospheres, I absolutely have to see it 🙂
My immediate reaction was “Oh, it’s the prequel to Elysium!” This one is on my To See list.
I really did get instantaneous Elysium vibes at the moment I saw the thumbnail. Definitely feels like a similar architectural style. All it needs now is higher-level graphics and realistic architectural design for the attachment points to the Earth, and we would definitely have something similar to that directors work here.
I can, with utmost certainty, tell you that this is going to be a crap film.
@@TheGoddon sure yes, this is a possibility, about 70%, but maybe this film can be about 30% good, I'm sure it won't be a masterpiece.
The concept of world encircling rings, and ring worlds themselves have been around a lot longer than Elysium, by far.
There is an old sci-fi short, I don't remember he details any more. From the 1980s or earlier.
The story was about a huge alien creature (perhaps the size of this structure or close) which landed on Earth and basically (I am avoiding spoilers as this info is right at the start) broke havoc on the planet and on the human civilization, basically bringing humans back thousands of years in technology. Fantastic story I still remember, but not more details like the title of it.
This trailer reminded me of that story.
I don't even want to imagine the process to get planning permissions for that
let alone get the resources to build it? I doubt the earth could have provided enough without looking like a swiss cheese lmao
@@lolhcd why waste earth metals when you have asteroid metals that don't have to leave the gravity well for construction in space?
@@Soguwe if they had the means to mine it either from space or nearby celestial bodies, they wouldn't have to tie it to earth, they would have already become a spacefaring race. The structure is causing a huge drawback on earth's energy received by the sun with huge casted shadows thst would do more bad than good, also, the amount of mineable meteorites would have destroyed the earth if they mined it from one that landed on earth.
@@lolhcd They're cruising along Saturn's rings in either ridiculously large manned ships or they left the solarsystem altogether and found a smol planet with smol rings
Either way, they have the technology to get some sweet sweet asteroid metals
And keeping them from crashing on earth is surprisingly easy, we could do it today, if anyone wanted to fund it
Anyway, it's a dumb trailer for a stupid concept, I wouldn't waste that much energy thinking about it
@@Soguwe First of all, the collective mass of every asteroid in the solar system is less than 3% of the mass of the moon. This structure has well over 90% the mass of the moon.
Second, the structure itself would generate gravity causing havoc on earth's ecosystem.
Third, this is absolutely no possible way of us doing it today. Even if every human on the planet suddenly dedicated themselves to building this structure, we simply do not have the industrial might or the resources to make something even remotely like this. It just isn't mathematically feasible.
Physics, math, will power, resources, industrial might all collectively say absolutely not when even considering an object like this. Stop spreading misinformation on the internet.
Wow . Amazing graphics . Excited
With the COST of this incredible structure we could easily make the world a better place !
And, talk about a terrorist target.
The goal is always to make the world a worse place. This is to cause chaos, which fuels totalitarianism.
For the people hoping for more details about movie, the video is named trailer just for more clicks, video is 2 years old, the movie is not coming.
Tag lines...
"One small step for a man, one giant circle jerk for mankind."
"Elysium 3...we were too ashamed of the 2nd film to release it."
"When I said ring me I think you misunderstood."
"6G towers are bigger than expected. "
"Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water. " (I know it has nothing to do with the film, but it's still the greatest tagline of all time!)
REALLY good trailer! It did not give away the movie's ending, unlike so many other lesser trailers nowadays. I cannot wait to see this movie!!!
It does not have an ending. Film is not made yet.
You just gotta love those Tethered Stations! Good point about the shadows obliterating crops, though. Hmm....
Which brings the obvious plot hole…how did it get built without those issues coming up and halting the project?
They aren't being subtle about the real life man they are portraying as dark and power hungry.
Great work ... 💪.. that's the real pic of future when sun rays won't be available..
I like the design where its connect to the earth with those massive pillars. Reminds me of Midgar from Final Fantasy 7 - the way the upper levels blocked out the sun from the poor lower levels
lol the windows and lights and that thing based on the scale would be the size of cities.
Makes you wonder how deep they actually go into the planet.
Wow! Reminds me of the fantastic book Ringworld by Larry Niven. Is a must read for every scifi fan!
yep... me too
Wait so, humans spent 100s of years building a giant megastructure, and never once thought "hmm maybe we need the sun to live".
The production values look great and I'm interested to see this for where the story goes... but the physical construct of the ring is off in multiple ways. The footprints look like they're the size of Australia each in the overhead "from space" shots, and likewise the elevators we see going up and down are simply enormous, New York City-sized things when in comparison to the Earth in those same shots; the legs are so thick they probably have the mass of Europe each, completely unnecessary when an orbital ring just needs to be kept from drifting out of position, it can't "fall down"; there is _so_ _much_ mass in the ring and legs that you'd need to mine most of the moon's mass in appropriate metals to build something that huge, I doubt there is enough usable material on the Earth and moon alone to produce such a structure. Overall, the scale of the ring in comparison to Earth is just really "too much." But to overlook that, maybe the rest of the film will be pretty good? Let's hope.
This is the most accurate comment. Well-balanced, and giving the benefit of the doubt.
I am from yemen and i want to say that you are awesome. You are doing a great thing. I am waiting for this film
Wow! I love futurism and this looks awesome! I'd gladly pay just to see the sci-fi megastructures depicted in this trailer.
based on what the people were saying in the video no one in the movie likes futurism.
I would watch for the same reason, I love videos like this.
This is such an awesome concept, keep this up! 👏
I'm amazed that they had this anti-Elon Musk movie so nearly ready to roll just when it was "needed".
The 'Woke' never sleep.
Why? Is Musk doing a ring around earth now?
(after he failed to do a 2 KM "hyperloop" under Las Vegas) :DDDD
From the very first shot I thought this trailers lacks an understanding of scale, material science and purpose.
Impressive concept. Hope the film sees light of day (pun intended).
Please give some updates about this movie I'm waiting for long time 😒🤷🏻♂️ atleast some release date or some kind of hint 😶
Wow...this is mind blowing😳😲🤯🤯
Damned interesting conversation concept! Enough hooks to reel me in, even if it's also amusing my inner Physicist.
Onde assistir? Vai estar disponível em qual plataforma?
indeed
Let me guess the plot of this movie: rich people lives in the Orbial, poor people lives on Earth. People on Earth lives in bad conditions due to the Orbital's influence, so they start a riot meanwhile the people who design the Orbital gets greed and their actions starts to be a threaten to Orbital's existence.
I am so going to send this out to everyone I know. This kind of ambitious film making needs exposure. Wow.
Наконец то,что то годное про космос,я скучал)
Как называется по русский ? Просто орбита? Или как?
I like how it’s portrayed as an environmental crisis film, as if this structure popped up over night.
Yeah, completely makes sense, doesn’t it? :D
@@rickbiessman6084 It's intended as a what if. What would the issues be IF this thing existed. It's not about the environmental study phase or anything. People taking this way too literally.
@@mycroft16 I understand that, but I think everyone has a certain minimum threshold of plausibility that a piece of fiction needs to pass for them, otherweise they won’t buy it. For me, this movie stays way below that threshold. "Willing dispension of disbelief" is a vital part of consuming fiction of any kind, but I am not willing to suspend my disbelief that much. ;) I think this is just too much to ask - kind of reminds me of the crazy stories I’d come up with as a kid. And it’s silly to expect an adult to accept such an implausible plot.
Btw. I think it’s important to distinguish "implausible" from "unrealistic". Unrealistic is fine, but there should be some inherent logic to the lack of realism. I just don’t see that here.
The time, resources, manpower & technology to build that??
This looks A M A Z I N G. Holy Crap!
When does it release? I need this in my life, right NEOW
Visually, this looks extremely promising. The fact that it’s impossible to build something like this with any material known to us - not a big deal to me because with sci fi, it’s the idea that counts.
BUT: ...you’re telling me that one guy managed to pull of building a gigantic orbital ring about earth and then, only AFTER the fact, people realize "meh, maybe it wasn’t such a great idea"? COME ON!!! There are two things fundamentally wrong with this:
1) If someone is smart enough to realize a project like this, he’d be smart enough to realize it must not be done. You’d need a heck of an explanation why this character would be so smart AND so dumb at the same time.
2) Blocking the sun and shifting so much weight from earth into the orbit would have unforseeable consequences. You’d need a heck of an explanation why the rest of humanity would go along with this.
Maybe there are decent explanations in the movie. But I won’t bother finding out because this is just so mind-numbingly stupid.
On Bloomberg, there was an article from last summer stating that the EU looks into blocking out the sun as climate efforts falter. As the planet seems to heat up way faster than expected, it may be a tempting solution even with the unforeseeable consequences. So depending of the context of the film, this orbital superstructure may be considered as a way to stop climate change, which went wrong.
Also, many smart individuals invented combustion engine, plastic, etc. Some discovered radium and radiation and many stuff... And today we have to deal with a climate crisis because too much CO2, plastic even in the atmosphere, nuclear bombs, etc. Being smart isn't the same than being all-knowing.
"If someone is smart enough to realize a project like this, he’d be smart enough to realize it must not be done."
lol you don't know much about real life billionaires, do you? Agreed the entire premise is ridiculous though.
@@ImVeryOriginal Some billionaires are willing to murderiously take advantage of others, no doubt. But they’re not stupid to the point of destroying the planet which would kill them too. In a scenario like this one, they’d go like "uh, I don’t give a crap about everyone else, but if I go through with it, I’m going down with them. Maybe hold off on that."
@@rickbiessman6084 Petrol companies have known about man-made global warming since the 70's, poured billions of dollars into propaganda denying it, and continue to do so despite the evidence being undeniable at this point.
They are *exactly* stupid, greedy and arrogant enough to ruin the planet while thinking they're above the consequences and their money will shield them from going down with everyone else.
Google Douglas Rushkoff - he's a tech writer who once got invited to a private island by 5 billionaires under the pretense of talking about tech trends. Turned out what they really wanted to talk about is how they can survive the upcoming "event" (societal collapse). It's fucking chilling. Here's a quote:
"Finally, the CEO of a brokerage house explained that he had nearly completed building his own underground bunker system, and asked: “How do I maintain authority over my security force after the event?” The event. That was their euphemism for the environmental collapse, social unrest, nuclear explosion, solar storm, unstoppable virus, or malicious computer hack that takes everything down."
The whole article: www(dot)theguardian(dot)com/news/2022/sep/04/super-rich-prepper-bunkers-apocalypse-survival-richest-rushkoff
@@rickbiessman6084 Petrol companies have known about man-made global warming since the 70's, poured billions into propaganda denying it and keep doing so despite the evidence being undeniable now and potential consequences catastrophic. They are *exactly* stupid, greedy and arrogant enough to think their money can shield them from going down with everyone else.
Google David Rushkoff, he's a tech writer who once got invited to a private island by some billionaires to discuss tech trends. Turns out what they really wanted to talk about is how to survive the upcoming "event" (total societal collapse). One of them admits he already started building his underground bunker network and asks "how do I keep control of my security force after the event?". The title is "The super-rich ‘preppers’ planning to save themselves from the apocalypse" - I recommend reading the whole thing, it's bone-chilling.
First of all, If you want to have a ring, you dont need to attach it to the earth. Its easier to construct it such that it orbits withbout being attached. Secondly it would make dense to have the broad edge of the ring perpendicular to the earth, like the rings of saturn. That way to dont block light from the sun. Bad design overall.
Now they have a less chance of saving em from an asteroid explosion.
Isn't the scale of this off by a lot? I see individual windows on something that's supposed to be hundreds of miles across and elevators that would be the size of cities.
As a lover of science fiction, I'll definitely be keeping an eye out for this one.
Same
As a lover of science fiction, this looks laughably bad to me.
@@cindydott452 hence science fiction...It doesn't need to be perfect or accurate...If it can capture the imagination and suspend the disbelief of rational mind then that science fiction has succeeded in its purpose.
@@vivek27789 That clip looks like goofy garbage.
This very much looks like a big budget production with a big imagination (whether that's the case or not!). Will be following this space carefully. Looks amazing.
Resources to build? Time to build? Weather impact? Would this have any affect on Earth's rotation and orbit?
My first question is where in (bleep) did he get the material to construct all of that? Seriously, I didn't notice the Earth suddenly missing a major portion of it's mass...
Probably asteroid mining.
@@bugwar5545 And TWO, considering that Earth's structure is a thin shell over a liquid core, How much deformation of the Earth would have occurred when that much extra mass was applied to the crust? (*sigh*) I think I just saw Newton jumping out the window there...
Then again, my generation had Ringworld, so who am I to complain?
WOW! I'm very uncertain if it could ever be built (cost, materials etc) but what an idea!
The concept of a globe encircling ring has been used in a scifi novel, one of Arthur C. Clarke's if memory serves me correctly, so a visual depiction will be very interesting to see!
@Andrew Graham No, I was referring to the end of Arthur C. Clarke's story "The Light of Other Days".
Honestly, with a much more efficient and practical design, an orbital ring is an extremely useful piece of tech to build. It wouldn't have to be even a fraction of this size and mass and would make travel in near Earth space a cakewalk.
As far as anything easy in outer space can possibly be.
Read "Ringworld" (1970), if you can. It's fantastic! (On many levels. :) )
And this is just a type 1 civilization. 😂
Don't forget "Elysium"...
Could’ve literally built a Death Star (without the planet killing laser) as a station and therefore avoided the whole having it connected to earth issue. Or built it onto the moon instead perhaps
Jesus Christ! Is everyone here, in the comment section, an outer space industrial design architecture or space station engineer?…………lol….no seriously guys….is this really a full feature film? Or some concept fan film mesh?……I hope to G.O.D. its a full featured film………..in theaters or imax would be swell! I guess I can always watch it on my iPad, while dropping a deuce if needed…..beggars can’t be choosers! Or can they?
As I watched this I thought, wouldn't having a structure that large effect global environment and also doesn't it effect earths gravity as well?
I guess these are the plot point. plus the whole social economics and social divide.
Don't question the film!
Just accept the woke narrative!
How is this woke
Wow! THAT was amazing, the inside shot was so cool!
saudi arabian architects be like:
Hey this looks absolutely amazing maybe add some more brilliance and saturation to the earth in distant shots. Besides that looks amazing. Maybe deepen the shadows just a little bit in some places.
So, looks amazing aside from the way it looks!
This looks exciting. I hope this movie is real.
Quando estará na telonas você merece esse filme nas telas IMAX!!!!
Okay so that was posted more than a year ago. Where is it? I want to watch it now tonight!
wow , great visuals !!! massive applause for you guys who model and create this amazing structures , i cant wait to see the movie ! ( p.s. WILL IT BE SHORT FILMS OR LONG LENGTH MOVIE ? )
just wow 😍 editing level and cinematography , vfx next level how can imagine...... respect to the whole team and director 👍
How does anyone take this shit seriously
Wow!!!!! Looks amazing 🤩!!!!
Finally something that can give so many humans shade.
WOW, this looks so coool ! I had the same same idea of an orbital ring around the earth but it was not attached to it. Anyway, the story seems just great, incredible visuals and I can't wait to see the movie !
Hyped for this!! Love space movies
Not enough material on earth to build that.
WHY DO WE THINK IN PROJECTS MORE REALISTICS, LIKE REFOREST EARTH WITH BILLIONS OF TREES?
Nobody in the Media are talking about that!
It's incredible that the nations didn't consider the most simple idea! We nees to restore our planeta!
Желание господствовать одних над другими, милитаризм ведут к большему потреблению ресурсов, большему загрязнению окружающей среды и этот процесс необратим.
The desire to dominate some over others, militarism, leads to greater consumption of resources, greater pollution of the environment and this process is irreversible.
@@РадикКучкильдин sorry zw, but I dont speack rusian. Can you write this in english, please?
@@VictorGesellok.
sir any update about your book?
It will be published soon after the movie. :-)
Stunning and Brilliant, can't wait!
Omg this is amazing!!! Im excited to watch!
One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.
While I love that megastructures are finally being used more in films, this seems a bit… off…
It’s like whoever came up with the concept learned just enough about orbital rings to know what they are and how they’d look, but just kinda stopped there.
They’re way too large for one. I don’t care what super materials you’ve got, that’s just not gonna work. Even if it did, it’s totally impractical.
The giant pillars are completely superfluous. Active support would works way better.
I think they're less interested in the reality of the mega structures than the narrative function. I imagine it's going to be about ego / hubris, Man vs Nature, sociopolitical commentary, etc. A "real" orbital ring doesn't need to be large at all. Like as wide as an interstate highway, maybe less. I could imagine a society with just one ring to start bootstrapping many many others until the Earth was covered in what looked like a ball of twine but the distance they operate at is so far you still wouldn't have problems with them blocking out sunlight. Even if you're "Dysoning up" the planet into a shellworld or matrioshka world, you want to spend your mass budget on the plates not the pillars and you can just keep speeding up the core of the ring past orbital velocities to create more dynamic strength.
@@bryanl1984 Yeah but you can tell those stories without throwing logic and physics out the window. If anything, realism makes most things better. Just look at The Expanse.
A "bit off"...lol...that orbital ring have "pillars" attached to Earth that are the size of a continent!!!
A bit off... :DDDDD
@@dimercamparini Yeah well, I’m trying to be nice 😅
@@joelmulder Dude, you expect realism over ham-fisted moralizing? What is this, the 90s?
Looks amazing cant wait to watch.
This looks impressive. And it appears to be addressing a large range of real issues such a construct would create. Looking forward to seeing this. It looks epic.
Hopefully it's not been released yet because it's being made into a mini-series. It could be that good - an entire world of impact.
how does the ring and those columns not collapse from the earth's magnetic pull?
@@BobRooney290 Gravity would be the real "puller" on those structures. But you're correct on the problem.
The engineering would be far beyond what we can do. The cost alone would bankrupt the planet.
Arthur C. Clarke wrote a novel about such a project, "The Fountains of Paradise". Good read.
The project in the novel required a material not available then or now - 44 years later.
@@BobRooney290 Unless you had an anti grav field to relieve the load from every thousand feet the entire structure would collapse. Also these fields would essentially explain how the pillars could stand at all, without those fields the pillars alone would sink into the earth due to enormous pressures exerted on the planet.
is this "Cusp" by Robert Metzger??? Awesome!!!
¿Se estrenó en el 2,022 o aún está por estrenarse? Me gustaría verla pues la CIENCIA FICCIÓN es uno de los temas que siempre me han atraído.
No creo que sea legítima hay cortes de otra pelicula en ese video.
@@norbertrivera Gracias.
@@legionariodemilbatallas_57-62 De nada ,me hubiese gustado que se realizara.
@@norbertrivera Y a mí.