The grand crossing to Proxima Centauri B. Some personal inspiration for this video came from: the movie Interstellar, the Nauvoo generational ship from The Expanse tv show, and Carl Sagan's Cosmos tv show. Areas of the video where I would want to expand in more detail include: the ship design and how it was built, specific technology on board such as medical tech, and maybe more about the nuclear fusion engines. 🖖 The short video, Interstellar A.I.: Writing the Encyclopedia of the Galaxy (inspired by Carl Sagan), is available on my Patreon here: www.patreon.com/venturecity New Project: This is something I've wanted to start for a number of years, creating an Encyclopedia of the Future. A collection of entries, defining future technology in the areas of space habitation, space engineering, biotechnology, cyber society, A.I. robotics, regenerative medicine, and much more. The first volume contains 31 entries with illustrations and is also available on my Patreon. It is a large ongoing project, with additional volumes to be published that will complete the final Encyclopedia.
Will you be doing a video for the first 10,000 days on Proxima Centauri B to follow up this video? I look forward to it if you are. I love watching all your videos!
I'd also like to see more detail about food and recycling, science discoveries while dealing with problems, reasons for not going faster, and maintaining mental and psychological health. Well done.
As an older person, I want to ask one question. - FOR WHAT? Why do you want to fly into space? What do you want to find there? New Earth? So, are you having a hard time living on your old one? Then who is to blame for this? We still don’t know how to live properly on Earth! Look around! What's the point in these flights if the same assholes that walk around you on the ground fly on advanced ships!!! Until we make leaps in social development here on Earth, we have nothing to do in space!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One thing these space travel videos always forget... Meanwhile back on earth, they discover a way to travel twice faster and send a new ship, the Helianthus II. Helianthus II arrives to Proxima Centauri about 25 years before the first. When the passengers of Helianthus arrive at Proxima Centauri, I would love to see the look on their face when they realize humans are already there.
I always think of this when the Voyager spacecraft are discussed. We could in the future, catch up to something that we blasted into space 100 years earlier. This always leaves you thinking, should we just wait until we have warp drive before sending people off on 100 year missions?
@@FlyingGuy There was a Twilight Zone episode that touched on that: An astronaut was placed in cryosleep on his way to a system authorities believed could support life, but his pod malfunctioned. Meanwhile, back on Earth they developed technology that gave them the answers they were looking for long before he got there. He returned as an old man.
In the 1980s our high school science teacher made the class figure out how far Alpha Centauri was using a large roll of paper. We had to make it to scale with our universe. Then he made each of us write a paper and give a speech on how our class would survive the trip. May you live long as star dust Mr. Miller. You made me become a scientist.
Those are the real teachers. It's not about opening a book and reciting it to a class ....it's about inspiration and theory and personal effort, to aspire the next generation of physicists and astronauts and technicians
I luv how ya'll think you just jump in a ship & hey presto Centuri next stop.. like the ship wont hit any trouble in deepspace & our tech wont malfunction or break down, because it never does. Hilarious 😂
@@TheAntsNest I don't think anyone thinks that presto you are there. Or do we even think it is possible at this stage. Not sure where you got that idea.
It would be 5 minutes. All died because their immune system got fucked over the long journey and wasn't able to adapt to a complete new ecosystem with own bacteria and viruses that mankind never had contact with. 😂 Nah no idea...but I also think it would be interesting to hear how they could overcome such problems.
@@JoshTyrReece Their immune systems would have adapted to space over the years and would make it easier for them to adapt to a new planet. Doesn't mean it woudn't be challenging tho and take time to overcome the things you pointed out.
Fighting, arguing, segregation, communities that spring up with violently opposing views. You can hand pick the original 'perfect' crew but after that nature just takes over. I wonder if the first murder will be celebrated as the first birth was? Then we can truly say that human beings have arrived.
I fear that astronomers do not yet know enough about Proxima Centauri b for such a film to make sense in the style of this channel, which closely sticks by established facts.
@@charleskuchenbrod8400 Robinson Crusoe finds water and food on his island, even a native human being. It's not likely that you'll find such things on Proxima Centauri b, but if the presence of, say, plants is ascertained after you have made a sequel to the video here offered with no plants being present, it could appear as a little ridiculous. Like all that fiction with the jungles on Venus of the pre-Venera period, just vice versa. And in this case, you could not even argue that a grandiose fictional panorama still retains its value, like with Nelson Bond's Venusian scenario _The Last Outpost_ - because you're dealing with a documentary approach advancing into fiction but mildly.
@@HansDunkelberg1We recently learned the planet (and the others around red dwarfs) is Tidal Locked. Like our Moon, one side faces the master gravity. One side of the planet would be extremely hot and the other side extremely cold. Any atmosphere on the cold side would probably freeze. Multiple reasons they could not be habitable. It would have been much more cost-effective to maneuver multiple asteroids, into a large enclosed rotating cylinder orbiting 6 months behind earth exactly opposite of earth from the Sun.
In a more realistic scenario, there will be more than 1 spaceship. A whole armada in-fact. Some ships are habitable, some are not. The unhabitable ones carry supplies such as ship repair parts, construction equipment (for use on the new planet), land vehicles etc. Another un-habitable (or rather semi-habitable) ones may even be some sort of environment laboratory and training ship. They simulate the living condition on Proxima Centauri B. To prepare and to acclimatise these pioneers. They would be also several follow-up armadas sent from earth. Sent several years later to keep the whole mission succesful and to keep the link to mother earth intact.
I would make all 100 inhabited and within a flight of each other, but far enough apart one exploding wouldn’t damage a neighbor. Survivors can be rescued and divided across the remaining ships.
Yes cool, and a few army ships sould not be missing either, before these colonists forget to pay earth back for the starting help. Later that will change in taxes.
Wrong. There is a whole lot of much more serious problems with this scenario. How are you going to stop the ship or ships? It would take a huge amount of energy to do that. The system may be a complete garbage dump. We don't know enough about it.
In a more realistic scenario, there wouldnt be humans at all. We wouldnt risk it for a planet we know absolutely nothing about. We arent even sure if Proxima Cen B is habitable
As an older person, I want to ask one question. - FOR WHAT? Why do you want to fly into space? What do you want to find there? New Earth? So, are you having a hard time living on your old one? Then who is to blame for this? We still don’t know how to live properly on Earth! Look around! What's the point in these flights if the same assholes that walk around you on the ground fly on advanced ships!!! Until we make leaps in social development here on Earth, we have nothing to do in space!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
star wars, Interstellar, time machines, all sound so mythological. And on other hand this tilted reality travel sounded so real even being fully uneal. The power of narrating a story with facts and technological inserts is what made it possible. Kudos team. Im sure the narrator or the scriptwriter will have his own place in the real travel mission. Good luck dude or dudetteor team whoever made this possible. Your entire team deserves a space walk.
The levels of redundancy in such a craft would have to be enormous - building a 'vehicle' that won't have a fatal flaw over 100 years is a staggering ambition
Humans already made probes in 1977. that flawlessly working today. Technology advanced since then. Don't judge technology by a quality of your home appliances. Anyway, it's not about machines that might fail, it's about humans that would go mad certainly.
Not really. The ship would have fabrication resources on board, and a crew to maintain it. It might even have a companion vessel, for redundancy. The real challenges with generation ships are all social and biological. It's keeping the ecosystems in balance and the humans onboard from killing each other that we would have a problem with.
@@mantirig4139 yes agreed, however, the first people onboard volunteered, the last people off go to a planet, the people that are born and die on the ship were never asked. There’s a TV series called Ascension that deals with a lot of these issues.
@@intothemultiverse1033 None of us were asked one way or another but either by not having a choice or wanting to contribute we carry on. I do see your point in those in the middle getting the short end in a way though.
There are several factors that make Proxima Centauri b a challenging place for life as we know it. Its parent star is prone to solar flares, which could strip away its atmosphere and pose a danger to potential life. Additionally, the planet is tidally locked, meaning one side always faces the star and the other is in constant darkness, which could create extreme temperature differences.
'No Shit' as the saying goes. The destination for these people may be a nightmare, the culmination of all of their hopes and beliefs for a century. A Roanoke Island.
Hopefully these ships will not absolutely carry any corrpt politicians especially the swamp people that believe in chaos, hate, anger and a very low vibration to the point of dark matter.
Great video, but Proxima Centauri B has an average temperature of -39C (-38F) and is tidally locked to a red star, much like the planet Krypton, so will only be habitable in a small ring around the planet, with desert on one side and tundra on the other side, and that is if it even has an oxygen - nitrogen atmosphere, which it most likely does not, with atmospheric models showing it most likely has a carbon dioxide - oxygen atmosphere. Also, being so close to the red star that it orbits, the UV radiation and X-rays will most likely kill anything unshielded, if the solar winds haven't already stripped off the atmosphere leaving it more like our Moon or Mars. What we need to find is a planet that orbits in the goldilocks zone around a young white star like our own.
@@blitzmotorscooters1635 you confuse alpha centuari with proxima centauri alpha centauri a and b are yellow and orange stars, so it worth to observe and launch probe there to check their Goldilocks Zone, if you find planets and moon there chance are good to find planets or moons with liquid water ocean or few lakes
X-rays and other short-wave lethal radiations would likely be the main factor to consider before even envisioning any place (even with a nitrogen/oxygen atmosphere) to inhabit. Otherwise, it's going to look like life on Mars. Better terraforming Mars if we are to accept to live enclosed in bunkers and other shielded habitations, or underground. Much closer and much higher chances of success. The thing unmanned exploration should determine first is the presence of a magnetosphere on any candidate Elysia. This, ideally along with ozone, is the factor that'll protect us from lethal radiation from the star near which we'll choose an Earth 2.0, which is to look for before sending any large contingent of people.
'....along the way, a reactor malfunction damages the ship, precipitating a crisis amongst the ships 7 most powerful leaders. As they enter the proxima centauri system, the crew splits into 7 distinct factions, divided not by nationality, but by ideology and their vision for the new world. After the ship breaks apart, the 7 leaders guide their chosen crew down to the planet surface, seeking their destiny beneath an alien sky.'
This was absolutely riveting. I got more enjoyment and entertainment from this than most films i watch these days. If i actually can be bothered finishing them.
0:28 - this image right here is stunning. The children born on the space craft, listening to campfire stories from the only elder they've ever known. Relaying truths about that they're travelling to a star system light years away for the future of mankind, and all hopes rely on their survival and success. Something about this image is utterly haunting, yet beautiful. Knowing the elder will pass before their arrival, and that elder probably helped helm the decision to even begin this journey to begin with. What a fantastic video. Thank you.
AI is getting there. This looks like 90% AI driven imagery. It's really good until you attempt to animate the scene. You get some seriously creepy results in the faces and of course in the the hands.
@@debussy843 AI means artificial intelligence, and images generated with AI are made using a bunch of prompts, meaning no real effort or skills went into making these images, unlike the computer generated ones which take a huge amount of effort and skills
Very entertaining and thought provoking. To find willing families to spend the entirety of their lives and to die there and never see the new planet would need some rare individuals.
I usually don't leave any comments on videos, however, I just have to say that I thoroughly enjoyed your well-crafted short documentary. Nice work. Truly nice work.
Wow. That was incredibly intriguing! Very very well made! A lot of research and well founded considerations went into this. Whoever made this, please do more of these. I want to know about the first 10000 days!
This is what I was thinking. I would love to know more about the lives on the ship as it crossed. The idea of dropping a pebble from earth with every birth is a masterful touch.
So, I think you should focus more on how uninhabitable proxima b is. Even assuming it's a perfect Earth clone with a breathable atmosphere and oceans, and an amazing magnetic field to stop the solar flares, *and* assuming its not tidally locked, it's still not going to be extremely harsh Because proxima cen is still nowhere near a good star to be around. It periodically changes its brightness by orders of magnitude due to solar flares. It can get up to 9 times brighter than it usually is, if I'm remembering correctly. Imagine standing on the surface of proxima b. You're outside, having a good day, when all of a sudden and completely without warning proxima cen gets 9 times brighter and you die from the heat. That would happen surprisingly often, often enough that the first settlements would have to be on the night side, or everyone risks dying just by going outside, even if the harmful raidation is blocked by a magentic field. Also, it's likely that the first people to arrive there won't even go on the planet at all. Imagine you just arrived at a new system. There are millions and millions of asteroids to start mining and you're ready to start becoming rich and building up all the infrastructure you need. Why go down to the planet at all? You already have a ship that's clearly capable of supporting you for centuries, why go down a gravity well where launching rockets suddenly becomes expensive, when you could remain in space, build more ships like the one you have, and live in paradises farming asteroids? Despite what popular sci fi says, colonizing a new planet around a new star would come *after* you colonized their asteroid belts and build orbital infrastructure. There's no reason to send all your resources down to a planet that'll be hard to launch out of when you're already in space with all the resources you need.
A spaceship with a Greek name, towards a new Sun that will have the same name (in Greek) as the sun that we have now : Helios. I congratulate you not only for your idea but also for its result. Great story, beautifully narrated and fantastic documentary.
@@mteokay1246 That would be a great outcome, as the generational ship would be able to send a message to earth to finally confirm the existence of intelligent alien life.
First of all, this is a great format and i really enjoyed the video, thank you for creating it! The setting itself felt like a common trope for movies where new generation rises up against the set-in-stone routines and rules (how to spend time, whom to like, whom to make family with, how many kids to have, when to die). I believe, this is the unaddressed part - how to include such tendencies into the overall plan so that it won't fell apart the usual way it happens in such stories.
@@brianbell3836 How so ? Maybe they rediscover it. Like Dune's Zensunni faith with the Orange Catholic Bible or something similar. Maybe NONE of the Abrahamic religions.
People do love these sorts of videos. And a lot of effort does go into creating them, which is laudable. But the content creators fail to mention Proxima Centauri is a flare star (look it up, folks), so Proxima B is almost certainty uninhabitable. It may very well have oceans, and perhaps even ocean life-- but no oxygen atmosphere and practically zero possibility for humans to live on the surface.
From the beginning, they specified that it is a science fiction documentary. Anyway, the documentary brings many interesting and objective things into view. congratulations.
Zero chance a dead body would be discarded. In an absolute closed system any body, waste everything, would be precious and irreplaceable. Everything would be recycled.
Ummm . . . like it would matter if 150 lbs of human is discarded. Even 5,000 humans that weigh 150 lbs. could be frozen and kept. They would only weigh 750,000 lbs. We're talking about a ship that weighs like three or four million tons or something like that (thousands of times the weight of those dead people). There would likely be a few hundred thousand tons of water alone in massive water tanks. That's many millions of gallons of water . . . enough that wales could swim around in it. Oh, and the ship would have to be bigger than the video says, or the people would probably all die. It would probably have to be something like the size of Battlestar Galactica (ridiculously big).
I know alot of work goes into making a vid like this. Thank you for making it. It was awesome! Hope you make one of the colonist first 100 years on planet.
Beautiful visuals and good science (I work in the space industry, so I'm pretty picky.) I'd probably start the spin up so the generations arriving on the new planet are born and spend their entire lives in the destination's conditions. I happen to have recently asked a guidence, navigation, and control (GNC) engineer whether doing maneuvers required that you stop spinning. She said that it wasn't, and I think maintaining spin has some advantages. Y'all did great work! One other thing--rather than having my body ejected into space, I'd rather it be carried to the destination, possibly by being recycled and becoming part of the ship's ecosystem.
On this planet cremations distribute your ashes over a vast area, while burials are carried out at places at which the soil isn't used for food production. Thus you'd have the uncommon experience of eating your dead ancestors if you recycled corpses on such a ship, I fear.
Well, since you are in the space industry, I have a question, how do astronomers know which direction to take when a space ship is light years away from Earth? For example (hypothetically of course!), let's say that you are in a space ship 100 light years away from Earth, how would you know which direction to take to get back? This always boggled me!
@@sns862 You'll make a three-dimensional model of the part of the Orion Spur - our location in the Milky Way - concerned. Stars move quickly, but you can foresee how they'll do it.
@sns862 Actually, you mostly know the answer already--a map. Of course, the map has to be three-dimensional. We already know where the stars are around us for a pretty good distance, so this information already exists. Unlike a map on the Earth, which may be useless if you are randomly dropped in a forest and can't see any landmarks that might appear on your map, space is really empty and you can see the stars all around you. You can use color, brightness, spectrum, variability in brightness, etc. to figure out which star is which. Then you match that to locations on your map, and, no matter where you go, there you are. In the present, we don't go that far, so we have multiple ways to find out where you are. If you are close to Earth, we can bounce radar off of you. You can send out a radio signal that someone on Earth can use to track you. If you know the time, you know where everything in the Solar System is. If you can find, for example, the Earth and Moon, you can use trigonometry to figure out where you are. There are other methods, as well, such as using pulsars, which are stars that can be used as clocks and timing their signals to figure out how fast away they are and compute where you are. Lastly, you can use an inertial navigation system. This tracks each movement you make. Since you know where you started and everything you did to get where you are, you now know where that is. This is a very quick summary and not comprehensive, but I hope it gives you a starting point to learn more.
@@davidvomlehn4495 How much accuracy will inertial navigation systems provide? After all, they'll be tiny as compared with the movements they trace, especially when they're used between stars.
Man, what a hell of life! I’m sorry for those inside the ship in the future and I’m very happy I’m not one of them. I will even walk on the grass and between trees in a matter of minutes just to get rid of this suffocating nightmare.
Really? All of these concepts have appeared in Western literature, movies, radio shows, etc. for well over a century now. He himself said in the video description that his: _"personal inspiration for this video came from the movie Interstellar,_ _the Nauvoo generational ship from The Expanse tv show,_ _and Carl Sagan's Cosmos tv show."_ I don't know why people have to be so mean-spirited and jingoistic.
This would make for a really kick ass TV series. Imagine 1 hour long Episodes. 5 seasons. First season taking place on Earth, and building everything, the politics of who gets to go, and all that drama. 3 Seasons of the lifes on the ship, Each season being 1 Generation of people and how they change over time, and the final Season being on the new planet. The stuggles they face starting from nothing, and how right as soon as they land. Humans be humans and branch off into tribes. I even ahve a good name for the TV series. "Helios" ;)
Except the humans would branch off into tribes in the second season/generation. Thousands of people living there would make it hard to grow close to everyone, hence, people would form their own little communities within the ships. It would be chaos in the ships before even getting to the planet. Assuming it doesn't end in tragedy (which is a viable option), you still have an alien planet to deal with. From potential similarly intelligent species to bacteria that kills, the final season of the show would be wild. Personally, I would assume the few that survive would adapt and become only slightly human somehow.
@@svedese69 Exactly - the Robinsons were headed for Alpha Centauri. Humans being humans branch off into tribes is already done too - read "Lord of the Flies." About a bunch of school kids lost on a deserted island following a plane crash...(gosh that also sounds familiar.....).
Videos like this are what makes TH-cam great! The first step to actually creating this spaceship is to imagine it. Next time I come across a video saying, "People will never leave the solar system," I'll put a link to this video in the comments. I wish you would have said a few words about radiation shielding. And maybe maintenance of the spacecraft over the 100 years, as that would probably be needed.
@@paolameyer4937 this isn't a concept that would be put into action anytime soon. honestly this is probably the most probable outcome in terms of us settling on another planet. knowing humans, we probably have the brains to figure it out and the money to make it happen. but the only way humanity would come together to send a new civilization to another planet would be if we all worked in unison, and for that to happen would mean that humanity is on the brink of being wiped out. which means that things would be ALOT more serious and not as laxed and sloppy as it is right now. an advanced civilization such as the one portrayed in this TH-cam video would need very strict rules with dire consequences if broken. Wed actually have a real task on our hands and a reason to improve ourselves. right now humanity is basically a 45 year old alcoholic who only talks about quitting sometimes.
@@Leon-mn8eo Good points. Also, it should be pointed out that there is a difference between science fiction and science. This isn't happening and some of the commenters need to get out of their momma's basement and see the real world.
Τhe fact that we merely and barely managed to overcome Earth's gravity and get to it's natural satteite and stay just a few hours, does not mean that humanity is able to withstand interstellar travel, to begin with. We have managed to see far from our home through telescopes and probes, but this also does not mean we are even able to reach out theres biological organisms. In other words, the distances and the time needed plus interstellar adversities that lie beyond, are such that we most possible will never be able to take that step. Mainly because the situation on our home planet is far from idyllic. Out planet is constantly being scavenged as it is, theres various countries, languages, religions and all that, making it impossible to even come to terms between us as a species. Plus natural resources are far from being endless. In other words, chances are that we first manage to destroy ourselves, either by grand-scale nuclear war, or at least come short considering resources. In conclusion, if I ever see a comment linking to this video, at some other one advocating out inability to even leave the solar system, I'll simply laugh out loud. Humanity would need THOUSANDS of years working in ABSOLUTE unity (and significantly reduced numbers) in order to manage to send such a mission to PCB, and we're so far from that. Once oil wells drie out (and they most certainly will, sooner or later), there's gonna be havoc all around the globe, becuase we're not some couple handred millions devoted to science, we instead are nearly a dozen billions of consumers that "wanna live their life" first, take vacation, travel the world, enjoy exotic foods from the other side of the planet, and all that that make "humanity" in the early 21st century. Sci-fi movies have actually cooked-up our minds, beliving "anything is possible", while that's far from the truth of reality. We've been living in a world that no actual progress in science has been done, since Einstein's equations, in a "high-tech" world enhanced since Albert with tremendusly powerful computers, and yet we haven't managed to unlock the possible physics that will enable us to construct "warp-drive" fueled ships to overcome such distances of the interstellar space. I myself see NO future for mankind, at least the way it's present is today. Best case scenario will be that we get destroyed by large numbers, and only a few "enlighted" manage to survive and dedicate their lives and the lives of their offsprings in building a new universal society of fewer numbers and far less nasty habits, in order to maybe some day manage to unlock the hidden physics that will take them to the stars and their plantes. Speaking of, the very video we're commenting under, is so ridiculous, since PCB is far from being validated as a habitable planet by humans: we only know that it's in th habitable ZONE of it's star. People are full of imagination and generally fulll with themselves and "full of it". But all this fullness does not account for interstellar space travel. I wish I were worng about it all, but I don't think that's the case. And even if we manage to at least build nuclear engines, still it's gonna be a one-shot suicide mission that will never manage to come through....
I thought the entire idea was thoroughly depressing, being born into an environment where your entire future is pre-mapped out for you, much like the vault-dwellers in the game Fallout, but I loved the golden eyed children. Truly beautiful. Great graphics throughout Venture City.
All who works in NASA, also knows, EARTH IS A CLOSED SYSTEM, NOBODY CANNOT LEAVE EARTH, THERE IS NOWHERE TO GO. They all know it, yet willingly deceive. + they are in the masonry club - that says it all. NASA deals with CGI and Hollywood basements, making “SPACE”, to deceive mankind. They, masons, wants to finally break the firmament, that`s the only and simple reason for NASA and all its missions.
Yes, I can only imagine the numbers of revolts, breakdowns, why not sabotages, civil wars and new religions... I would say they would have 10% chance of success.
@@profepik7525 Looking at modern America, and 1939 Germany, it's dismaying how rapidly a seemingly sophisticated society can descend into anarchy or barbarism. And that's without someone telling you from the second you are born, what your entire life will be. As I see it, it would be far too risky to transport colonists in their conscious state.
This production was excellent. Covered all bases, cross all t’s and dotted all the I’s . Such a wonderful piece of video. I wish it could come true and I wish I could be one of those wonderful people to experience it.
Excellent ? Maybe for those who have no clue about the Science involved ! Ignorant always believes any crap. This upload is 99,9 fiction and BS, and only 0,1% science.
I guess that if you could accelerate from 0 to 4.2% of C in a couple of weeks you may as well accelerate a bit fast or a bit longer to drop the journey time to 40 years or so. Either way, by the time this ship arrives there will be a colony built by people who arrived on the mark 2 or mark 3 ship.
most definitely. we've seen this already with satellites. It took new horizons just 405 days to reach Jupiter. while it took voyager 1, 546 days to reach to reach Jupiter. By the time that space craft is in it's 70th year voyage, we may have figured out how to go 25% of the speed of light by then and could get there in 20 years time instead of 100 years time. which would have surpassed the original ship by 10 years to its destination.
@@RhinoXpress You neglected to notice that Voyager 2, which launched 16 days prior to Voyager 1, took 688 days to reach Jupiter. It's not so much a difference in technology, but a difference in the specific mission requirements. For their gravity assists to work, the probes needed to arrive at Jupiter at the right time, in the right place, at the right velocity and at the correct angle. For Voyager 2, that was compounded by the the necessity to do the same at Saturn and then Uranus, for it to be able to reach Neptune.
One problem is that higher speeds would require exponentially greater fuel requirements: More fuel to decelerate the ship at the destination, more fuel to decelerate the fuel to decelerate the ship, more fuel to accelerate the fuel to decelerate the ship at the launch of the ship, and so on. Higher speeds would also increase the energy of impacts with interstellar dust. And, any problems with the engine during the deceleration phase could cause the ship to risk overshooting the target. Higher speeds would reduce the time available to react to any issues and increase the fuel requirements needed to recover.
Didn't the Lost in Space movie (1998) show something like that happening, where the pioneering vessel got beat out by the next gen vessel to arrive at the destination?
The point about the sending of the message taking 4.24 years to arrive on earth is the simplest way of understanding all the talk about seeing into the past when astro folk talk about light from far off suns etc. So "hi it's me, we've made it" is history as it happened 4 year ago. Great video x
Aliester Reynolds sci-fi novel Chasm City tells the story of generation ships travelling from Earth to Epsilon Eridani. It's a pretty dark, but amazing story! :D
Great video. I'm already thinking that a 2nd colony ship would be launched afterwards as a backup just to ensure someone makes it alive to proxima centauri B. Also, you need to emphasize diseases and other unforeseen disasters that might happen like micro metoerites hitting the ship or critical components malfunctioning and there's no replacement parts.
Plot twist: In the years after Helianthos departed, transformative propulsion technology was discovered, making similar spaceships be able to travel at triple speeds.....the Helianthos 2, launched 50 years after the original, has already reached the planet and its passengers are preparing a Welcome Home party for Helianthos's arrival.
I would imagine in a journey like this, it would be from an evolutionary perspective likely as well that the skin colours of the passengers would lighten in response to zero sunlight for multiple generations. That combined with the eye colour change once they land on the planet and you’d end up with a sub-species of humans that were visually very different from earth humans. Amazing video, what’s most captivating about this is that the technology behind this feels like it might only be about 100yrs away to actually do something like this. The difference is that I would expect multiple ships in a small ‘armada’ to go together, and for there to be planned follow up ships etc, rather than just the one.
If their artificial light during the trip contains some UV light their skin colours would not become lighter. And I doubt their eye colour can adapt in a couple of generations. They will wear corrective glasses in the beginning.
it is only 100 years you need at least 10000 years to change slightly human except if you soak poor people in radiation or play artificially with their genetic
@@duudsuufd The lighting on the ship will _certainly_ contain ultraviolet rays - that's essential for supplying the body with vitamin D. Especially on a spaceship, you'll not easily produce enough meat or dairy to give everybody the daily doses of that vitamin they need for their skin, bones, and other functions. Pale people are also not very beautiful.
I usually see a lot of people, mostly naysayers leaving negative comments on videos such as this, or else people saying that " we'll never make it without God ! ", etc. I don't see those types of comments here, & I HOPE that it stays that way.
This is an amazing view of what will very likely be our first voyage to another star. It is intriguing, engaging, and very instructive. Along with others, I would love to see Part 2. I've now become a fan of Venture City!
This was beautiful, exciting and scary at the same time and on top if it an incredible story. I love your videos. Always make me think so much about humanity and our existence
Wow this pretty cool. Very well done, looked great and well researched. I do feel that there is a real ethical dilemma around generational ships. Okay for those that signed up originally, however some people would be born and trapped their entire lives on a spaceship going to a planet they'd never reach, from a planet they'd never been on.
That's why, unless Earth would be in lethal danger, multi-generational ship doesn't make sense. Same goes for any interstellar journeys. Without jump drives or advanced crio-technology it is pointless.
@@Swarzec_Swarzewski If you accept the current mythos and psychological profile of society, there most certainly would be a some effort to send out a ship to colonize a new world. I doubt that anyone would get onboard with the idea of Proxima Centauri B, because there are too few similarities with earth, but there will be a planet discovered within the next century with characteristics close enough to earth that a colonizing effort could be mounted, and there would be enough people volunteer to populate such a ship. Man needs to feel growth, and life is stagnating on earth even now. The realities of the universe are much different than what is currently popularly accepted, so my musings here are just a commentary on a fairy tale. 🙂
There is no dilema about that, it is what it is. Covid gave us a glimpse of what it will be like. Its not like most people on Earth can even enjoy travel, and live in their very small location all their lives. Entertainment has advanced so there will be plenty of it, and AI tools are already showing us today how easy is to make vast amounts of content. There will be Education and jobs for the ship, of course.
@@pbierre indeed that is rightly so. We can't even choose were we are born, maybe we will miss things others have but will be completely ignorant of it and live happily. Heck, some may not even want to leave the ship and it should remain as an orbital space colony.
The inspiration from The Expanse is made clear right in the first second, where we can see the spaceship identical to the Nauvoo. Amazing job. Please release a part 2 of this 😆!
Very nice, imaginative video. In it, we see the interstellar voyagers avoid any significant meteoroid impacts, the effects of radiation from a number of sources, on-board epidemics, premature depletion of supplies, failure of critical equipment and social unrest/mutiny without any assurances that the planetary chemistry and native biologics (if any) at the destination are in any way compatible to human life. There has to be an assumption the people who planned and funded this passage have spent a few centuries sending a myriad of probes to sample the environment of the potential new home for humanity and have concluded it's just right for occupation. Over hundreds of million years terrestrial life has evolved and adapted to very specific conditions on Earth. Finding these identical conditions on a planet in another star system is a fantasy.
I agree. In fact, it would be totally impossible. Just like the indians died when Europeans interacted with them, humans would die when they interact with life on another planet, because humans have no natural immunity developed/evolved to alien bacteria from another planet. (Think of the "War of the Worlds" scenario, where the invading aliens died from being killed by bacteria.)
Some crucial traits of the planet are anyway known, so it could indeed be possible to make a video sticking to known facts as much as the one on hand also about such a subject.
This was brilliant, beautiful and exciting. The only thing that I think might be different by this time, is the lifespan of humans. As long as our species survives and doesn't destroy itself over the next 50 years, I do believe our lifespans will grow in length exponentially. It's possible that people might be able to survive the entire trip.
Yes, especially if we can put people in a coma and slow metabolism to “fast forward” many stretches. Perhaps wake up for a week once a year so 100 years feels like 4 months
@@jaylewis9876Adding onto that. I think it would be even more efficient waking a few in different intervals throughout the year so they can properly maintain the ship every so often. I’m starting to think we should make our own space administration
Leaving deep freeze sleep aside, humans could become over 100 years already if they were concious about what they eat. This is perhaps the biggest crime of the establishment: feeding the masses with trash, food with nearly zero nutrients. Next is conciousness of the body one has. Its the only one you have. You can heal so much yourself. We are not supposed to know this because quess-who would loose very much money. If children were properly educated, a lifespan, a healthy lifespan of 120 years is possible, without thinking of further advancements. Sure thing: this would need a radical change of attitude of the entire world population.
I enjoyed your video: great graphics were shown and interesting issues were raised, such as alterations in bacteria and possible evolutionary changes in the colonists over time. But I think there were a few problems in the video. In 2014, I wrote a science fiction novel called "The Protos Mandate" for Springer's Science and Fiction Series, which requires the authors to add an addendum supporting the science in their novel. I chose a 107-year multigenerational mission to Epsilon Eridani, a young star with demonstrated exoplanets 10.5 light years from Earth. This might be a better candidate for colonization, since as Delosian points out below, Proxima Centauri is a red star that is unstable and subject to radiation bursts that would be dangerous for colonists. Also, I considered problems caused by the different generations which you didn't mention, such as the desire of some members of a later generation to return to Earth since they never agreed to be on the mission, or the fear of some of these people to land on a planet since they have never known a horizon or what it is like to be in a more natural environment. Finally, the people in hibernation in my novel were not secret rich people but people with colonization skills who weren't needed on the outbound part of the mission and would only use up resources. Along with issues related to crew psychology and preferred governance structure, perhaps these issues could be dealt with in a future documentary.
I agree, but there will not be any evolutionary changes in the population on the ship, only after they are free to randomly breed on the planet. Remember that evolution only works by natural selection and there will not be any natural selection on the ship because the goal is for everyone to survive and reproduce. And, if reproduction and even survival is guaranteed on the planet, there will not be any evolutionary adaptation either.
100 years is not nearly enough tiem tocause detectible, inheritable geneitc changes. If Pharaoh Khufu were resurrected today, he would be genetically ialmost dentical to the rest of us today. It would take DNA analysis to spot the differences.
Even if there are, the chances of meeting... well go read the Fermi Paradox. Distances in space are INSANE, this is the closest star (which is why they called it Proxima lol) and we are talking 100 years a 4ish% the speed of light to reach it. But anyway Carl Sagan put those gold discs in the Voyagers for such a reason. May have been useless, but he did it anyway. People like that can support such an endeavor or volunteer to go even knowing its a one way trip and they will never see the destination.
Probably won't happen in our lifetime . . . or probably for a least a few thousand years, since the galaxy is almost a hundred thousand light years across, and advanced aliens are likely nowhere near us (probably at least a few thousand light years away). Also don't forget, there are many billions of stars in our galaxy, so it would be difficult for the to detect us, even when they finally could, because our radio waves will have finally arrived at the borders of their civilization (their closest outpost to us).
Fantastic work. The many aspects of interstellar travel and survival over multiple generations is excitingly thorough. Very well done! I imagine there would be some nuances of human behavior that would be difficult to predict on such a long journey in a closed system: Beliefs on family and raising children. Conflict resolution, rule violations, and possibly even punitive actions. Even if most passengers are eager to participate in a mission like this, this mission may not fit everyone among the new generations like a glass slipper.
"nuances of human behavior" An interesting concept and a lot of thought hard work obviously went into this video. But for the foreseeable future it will remain a fantasy. The human race has a long way to go before it will be ready for such a journey, and I don't just mean technologically. I don't want to sound pessimistic, but just look at how the human race behaves here on earth. More pertinent questions should be "How long before the first murder? How long before the first sabotage? How long before some evil alpha male assumes total command?". Perhaps, "How long before the first war between different passenger groups?" It is OK to have hope, as human beings we need hope, but reality tells me that it is unlikely that the human race will ever progress this far before it makes itself extinct, and probably every other living organism on the planet.
@@stephengraham1153 Everything larger than a cat, most fungal species, all ocean life and an atmosphere in chaos, a predominately desert planet with temperatures between -30 and 65 C. The oceans will turn red purple pink with cyanobacteria and there may be armada storms with peak speeds of 600kmh that stretch from the equator to the poles. It is unlikely that the conditions for civilization would occur again even if humans somehow adapted to it. The fermi paradox in action, the requirements to become a space civilization destroy the lifeforms before they achieve it as the society becomes too complex and sows the seeds of its own destruction
I just think having trained and untrained people behave for such a long time feels unsustainable regardless how good people are in the beginning. Then you have the issues of family life which is never introduced in current space travel. Very different behavior when an astronaut has their family on board vs when they are alone. Then there’s the simple fact that the mission can be delayed due to unforeseen issues which would further exacerbate the previously stated issues. There’s also psychological challenges that can happen just by being in a closed environment and by being in space for that long. Very interesting to ponder. 😅
Actually the sexual behaviour would be the prime reason for a mission to fail. I presume the people on board the ship are the same random public as on Earth. As the video properly catched (and I applaud for it for raising such an inconvenient and stressful topic), the sexual partner of the each interstellar starship member will be carefully precalculated by a medical team and the rules will only tighten with each generation going forward. I predict the females who fail to comply the strict ship rules will be forcefully impregnated at least two times with a different set of preserved genetic material. Sorry ladies, but that is a real colonization mission, not a space opera. Local laws could be indeed brutal. The sexual violations will shoot off charts, because you simply cant regulate the basic instincts. It's impossible to control. I just see the total havoc of the sexual desperation multiplied by the constant stress of the confined ship areas. Yet I have a good news too. The cute custom androids build to your honest sexual expectations will somewhat help to fill the gap as your real, agreeable and seductive casual partner. Meantime, the interactions with a human partner, with "that" person you do not actually like and do not even see attractive, can be limited to a bare minimum just to comply the government 2 child policy. Even better, the "material transactions" can be done securely and privately via assistants they trust and like in a joyful way. Whatever works, i guess. Family bonding will be weak, i'm afraid. Therefore the common social nucleus onboard most probably would be a person with a personal multi-role assistant. Plus "that" prescribed human partner you have to somehow coexist with. Space faring is for machines. Machines build machines. Machines build machines. Machines build machines. With enough machines job will be done.
I think this would be excellent backdrop for a great live action scifi movie or better yet a series. So much world building potential, so much could be explored in great detail. Perhaps the story could follow several families, descendants of the first generation that left Earth and their struggle to survive and build a new civilization on an alien world. Obviously you need a script writer who doesn't screw it all up by trying to make it a pure action movie or inserting too much drama and thus obscuring the story's potential to portray what living in an alien world could be like. I can just imagine all the challenges that might arise. What if the planet was geologically unstable or had significantly more or less gravity than Earth, what if many of native animal species were large and dangerous, what if the planet were periodically exposed to solar flares or didn't have a moon so the axile tilt of the planet was constantly in flux. Perhaps it's a planet that is tidally locked where one side is constantly in daylight while the other side is constantly at night with a narrow band in perpetual twilight. There are endless possibilities but it would be great to see some of them explored in detail on the big screen with a small band of characters to provide a first person perspective of what the first human colonists would see and experience on an alien world! Anyway that's what I thought of when I first saw this documentary.
Read the book Non-Stop its a 1958 science fiction novel by British writer Brian Aldiss. It is about problems that the inhabitants of a huge generation space ship face
Excellent. I have dreamed of, and painted these adventures for 60 years. I believe I could be able to re-incarnate in time to see the first set of colonists depart.
I do believe that you could reincarnate even _several times_ before the first generation ships lift off. _Many_ times. Generation ships probably are a thing of a far future, and human reincarnation uses to happen in intervals of about one hundred years.
Proxima Centaury is the closest star to Earth, but up to now, the planet Proxima Centaury B is not considered habitable. For one side, no atmosphere has yet been detected. Also, the star is not as 'quiet' as the sun, it is very variable prone to emit huge ammounts for electromagnetic radiation with enough power to strip any atmosphere around the planet.
Good points. It would also be a hard undertaking to build something, say, on the side of the planet which always looks away from the star. One currently still - or already - needs about a hundred million people for autarky on Earth. Until a generation ship can be built, you can expect an even stronger specialization of production methods. You can argue that robots may take over many tasks, but where do you take a hundred million or more of such helpers from, on Proxima Centauri b?
The grand crossing to Proxima Centauri B.
Some personal inspiration for this video came from: the movie Interstellar, the Nauvoo generational ship from The Expanse tv show, and Carl Sagan's Cosmos tv show.
Areas of the video where I would want to expand in more detail include: the ship design and how it was built, specific technology on board such as medical tech, and maybe more about the nuclear fusion engines. 🖖
The short video, Interstellar A.I.: Writing the Encyclopedia of the Galaxy (inspired by Carl Sagan), is available on my Patreon here: www.patreon.com/venturecity
New Project: This is something I've wanted to start for a number of years, creating an Encyclopedia of the Future. A collection of entries, defining future technology in the areas of space habitation, space engineering, biotechnology, cyber society, A.I. robotics, regenerative medicine, and much more.
The first volume contains 31 entries with illustrations and is also available on my Patreon. It is a large ongoing project, with additional volumes to be published that will complete the final Encyclopedia.
Will you be doing a video for the first 10,000 days on Proxima Centauri B to follow up this video? I look forward to it if you are. I love watching all your videos!
I'd also like to see more detail about food and recycling, science discoveries while dealing with problems, reasons for not going faster, and maintaining mental and psychological health.
Well done.
On the next video: The great crossing to Gliese 581G.
A brilliant mini documentary!
On a par with and even better than some mainstream corporations documentaries.
Most enjoyable.
👍👍
As an older person, I want to ask one question. -
FOR WHAT?
Why do you want to fly into space? What do you want to find there? New Earth? So, are you having a hard time living on your old one? Then who is to blame for this?
We still don’t know how to live properly on Earth!
Look around!
What's the point in these flights if the same assholes that walk around you on the ground fly on advanced ships!!!
Until we make leaps in social development here on Earth, we have nothing to do in space!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One thing these space travel videos always forget... Meanwhile back on earth, they discover a way to travel twice faster and send a new ship, the Helianthus II. Helianthus II arrives to Proxima Centauri about 25 years before the first. When the passengers of Helianthus arrive at Proxima Centauri, I would love to see the look on their face when they realize humans are already there.
I always think of this when the Voyager spacecraft are discussed. We could in the future, catch up to something that we blasted into space 100 years earlier. This always leaves you thinking, should we just wait until we have warp drive before sending people off on 100 year missions?
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No reason to wait. If people volunteer for such missions then let them do it asap.
@@FlyingGuy There was a Twilight Zone episode that touched on that: An astronaut was placed in cryosleep on his way to a system authorities believed could support life, but his pod malfunctioned. Meanwhile, back on Earth they developed technology that gave them the answers they were looking for long before he got there. He returned as an old man.
Since the first ship is still in radio contact with earth I don't think it would be a surprise.
Or we are able to open a wormhole that can make travel only a matter of second
In the 1980s our high school science teacher made the class figure out how far Alpha Centauri was using a large roll of paper. We had to make it to scale with our universe. Then he made each of us write a paper and give a speech on how our class would survive the trip. May you live long as star dust Mr. Miller. You made me become a scientist.
Those are the real teachers. It's not about opening a book and reciting it to a class ....it's about inspiration and theory and personal effort, to aspire the next generation of physicists and astronauts and technicians
I luv how ya'll think you just jump in a ship & hey presto Centuri next stop.. like the ship wont hit any trouble in deepspace & our tech wont malfunction or break down, because it never does. Hilarious 😂
@@TheAntsNest I don't think anyone thinks that presto you are there. Or do we even think it is possible at this stage. Not sure where you got that idea.
@@Rottingboards ikr where would I get that idea, 7k comments & over half have their hed up there arses thinking its Alpha Centauri next stop 🤣
🤘rad teacher🤘
This is human beings we are talking about here. No way it would go that smoothly! The amount of drama on that ship would be insane.
Exactly, they would be doomed..the women would destroy teamwork and relationships 😆 🤣
@@BalakeHart-nh4xh pregnant alian babies 😂
i think the population was roughly the size of a small town so definitely some drama but probably not enough to jeopardize the mission
@@BalakeHart-nh4xh yeah all you got to do to figure out how it would go is to look at either carriers or submarines
Swear to God, it be always them@@BalakeHart-nh4xh
How depressing is it to be born and to die on a spacecraft. To never have the experience on either planet your whole life.
They’ll never have to deal with beer-drinkin naybs shooting fireworks at 4am. And don’t get me started on their damn dog.
It's all relative. You wouldn't hurt for something you never knew
Maybe a little bit different topic but check movie Aniara
And after a 100 years of interbreeding, they all end up looking like Barack Obama.
The earth is a spacecraft
Like many would love to see a Part 2....the next 100 years on the new planet.
It would be 5 minutes. All died because their immune system got fucked over the long journey and wasn't able to adapt to a complete new ecosystem with own bacteria and viruses that mankind never had contact with. 😂
Nah no idea...but I also think it would be interesting to hear how they could overcome such problems.
@@JoshTyrReece Their immune systems would have adapted to space over the years and would make it easier for them to adapt to a new planet. Doesn't mean it woudn't be challenging tho and take time to overcome the things you pointed out.
Next - they passing by the ship coming from Proxima towards Earth - where hell are you going, we just left Proxima which is going to explode 😉
Fighting, arguing, segregation, communities that spring up with violently opposing views. You can hand pick the original 'perfect' crew but after that nature just takes over. I wonder if the first murder will be celebrated as the first birth was? Then we can truly say that human beings have arrived.
@@JoshTyrReece exactly what i think
Would love to see a sequel: how they settle the new planet.
I fear that astronomers do not yet know enough about Proxima Centauri b for such a film to make sense in the style of this channel, which closely sticks by established facts.
Replay the Robinson Crusoe adventure cartoon. Awesome
@@charleskuchenbrod8400 Robinson Crusoe finds water and food on his island, even a native human being. It's not likely that you'll find such things on Proxima Centauri b, but if the presence of, say, plants is ascertained after you have made a sequel to the video here offered with no plants being present, it could appear as a little ridiculous. Like all that fiction with the jungles on Venus of the pre-Venera period, just vice versa. And in this case, you could not even argue that a grandiose fictional panorama still retains its value, like with Nelson Bond's Venusian scenario _The Last Outpost_ - because you're dealing with a documentary approach advancing into fiction but mildly.
They would probably kill it, the new germs we bring to it, or germs on the planet would kill us or predators!
@@HansDunkelberg1We recently learned the planet (and the others around red dwarfs) is Tidal Locked. Like our Moon, one side faces the master gravity. One side of the planet would be extremely hot and the other side extremely cold. Any atmosphere on the cold side would probably freeze. Multiple reasons they could not be habitable.
It would have been much more cost-effective to maneuver multiple asteroids, into a large enclosed rotating cylinder orbiting 6 months behind earth exactly opposite of earth from the Sun.
The number of things to think of and not miss for this kind of journey to succeed is a lot. What a journey indeed
I applaud the production team that made a very complicated topic, both palatable and relatable.
In a more realistic scenario, there will be more than 1 spaceship. A whole armada in-fact. Some ships are habitable, some are not. The unhabitable ones carry supplies such as ship repair parts, construction equipment (for use on the new planet), land vehicles etc. Another un-habitable (or rather semi-habitable) ones may even be some sort of environment laboratory and training ship. They simulate the living condition on Proxima Centauri B. To prepare and to acclimatise these pioneers.
They would be also several follow-up armadas sent from earth. Sent several years later to keep the whole mission succesful and to keep the link to mother earth intact.
I would make all 100 inhabited and within a flight of each other, but far enough apart one exploding wouldn’t damage a neighbor. Survivors can be rescued and divided across the remaining ships.
I agree, ships would have to be staggered. That would increase the population and add genetic diversity
Yes cool, and a few army ships sould not be missing either, before these colonists forget to pay earth back for the starting help. Later that will change in taxes.
Wrong. There is a whole lot of much more serious problems with this scenario. How are you going to stop the ship or ships? It would take a huge amount of energy to do that. The system may be a complete garbage dump. We don't know enough about it.
In a more realistic scenario, there wouldnt be humans at all. We wouldnt risk it for a planet we know absolutely nothing about. We arent even sure if Proxima Cen B is habitable
This is better than Hollywood sci-fi movies.
Is this on VR or something? Why did they have that Thumbnail???
@@-TheMaskedMan- I think this is all IA generated. Text, voice and images.
Watch the movie "Pandorum". 😅
@@MarcusBadithey did a great job.
@@ericpowell4350 i like it!!
Great stuff. If you ever decide to let it be made into a dramatized series, please maintain creative control 🙏🏿.
That would be cool
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@@VentureCity It would be imperative. Don't let blood sucking Hollywood in.
As an older person, I want to ask one question. -
FOR WHAT?
Why do you want to fly into space? What do you want to find there? New Earth? So, are you having a hard time living on your old one? Then who is to blame for this?
We still don’t know how to live properly on Earth!
Look around!
What's the point in these flights if the same assholes that walk around you on the ground fly on advanced ships!!!
Until we make leaps in social development here on Earth, we have nothing to do in space!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
star wars, Interstellar, time machines, all sound so mythological.
And on other hand this tilted reality travel sounded so real even being fully uneal. The power of narrating a story with facts and technological inserts is what made it possible.
Kudos team. Im sure the narrator or the scriptwriter will have his own place in the real travel mission.
Good luck dude or dudetteor team whoever made this possible.
Your entire team deserves a space walk.
thank you for your kind words
That was fantastic and far too short. I loved every single second of it and felt sad when it ended. Well done
Thank you. Yeah there is a lot more I would want to include. Maybe for another video, or for a blog post.
watch the expance series its fantastic just like this short documentry but 100 plus episodes
@@VentureCity another video preferably ; )
@@VentureCity holding a baby up to a light, maaaaaaaaa. lol. Lion king reference.
ChatGPT and AI thanks you
The levels of redundancy in such a craft would have to be enormous - building a 'vehicle' that won't have a fatal flaw over 100 years is a staggering ambition
100 of them ?
or enough to take on a shipwreck x
Humans already made probes in 1977. that flawlessly working today. Technology advanced since then. Don't judge technology by a quality of your home appliances. Anyway, it's not about machines that might fail, it's about humans that would go mad certainly.
Not really. The ship would have fabrication resources on board, and a crew to maintain it. It might even have a companion vessel, for redundancy.
The real challenges with generation ships are all social and biological. It's keeping the ecosystems in balance and the humans onboard from killing each other that we would have a problem with.
@@Helloverlord Those probes aren't working flawlessly. Several components on each have failed and were turned off years ago.
What a fantastic short film. In a way I feel sorry for those born on the ship and who die on the ship without ever reaching humanities new home.
we should count ourselves lucky we are taking living in this Earth 🌍 for granted
You should also feel sorry for the billions of people who are born and die on planet Earth, since they never get to see Utopia either.
But without them the trip would not have been completed so they would feel some satisfaction from that I'm sure.
@@mantirig4139 yes agreed, however, the first people onboard volunteered, the last people off go to a planet, the people that are born and die on the ship were never asked.
There’s a TV series called Ascension that deals with a lot of these issues.
@@intothemultiverse1033 None of us were asked one way or another but either by not having a choice or wanting to contribute we carry on. I do see your point in those in the middle getting the short end in a way though.
i love that time dilation analogy so much
its so much easier to understand
There are several factors that make Proxima Centauri b a challenging place for life as we know it. Its parent star is prone to solar flares, which could strip away its atmosphere and pose a danger to potential life. Additionally, the planet is tidally locked, meaning one side always faces the star and the other is in constant darkness, which could create extreme temperature differences.
they would be living around the prime meridian
Why do you have to be the turd in the punch bowl?
Why? Because, FACTS! @@edgein3299
So? Send some Aussies to the sunny bit - she'll be right mate.
'No Shit' as the saying goes. The destination for these people may be a nightmare, the culmination of all of their hopes and beliefs for a century. A Roanoke Island.
Kudos to the team that made this video! They've already spent more time on the mission than anyone else ever will.
This was made by AI!
@@mrwigley9883 No such thing as AI.
It was made by Ai, I agree. @flying guy, you should have left out the "A" in your comment.
No such thing as AI.
Hopefully these ships will not absolutely carry any corrpt politicians especially the swamp people that believe in chaos, hate, anger and a very low vibration to the point of dark matter.
I love how you give us science through storytelling. The graphics are awesome as well. Congratulations.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it
Yes, it is very well done.
AI FTW
@@VentureCityI’m on my knees begging a part 2
Y u 88⁸
This documentary offers a thrilling glimpse into humanity's future in space! The science is captivating and thought-provoking.
Great video, but Proxima Centauri B has an average temperature of -39C (-38F) and is tidally locked to a red star, much like the planet Krypton, so will only be habitable in a small ring around the planet, with desert on one side and tundra on the other side, and that is if it even has an oxygen - nitrogen atmosphere, which it most likely does not, with atmospheric models showing it most likely has a carbon dioxide - oxygen atmosphere. Also, being so close to the red star that it orbits, the UV radiation and X-rays will most likely kill anything unshielded, if the solar winds haven't already stripped off the atmosphere leaving it more like our Moon or Mars. What we need to find is a planet that orbits in the goldilocks zone around a young white star like our own.
exactly. we will not be sending any Gen Ships towards Alpha Centari... nothing for us there
@@blitzmotorscooters1635 you confuse alpha centuari with proxima centauri
alpha centauri a and b are yellow and orange stars, so it worth to observe and launch probe there to check their Goldilocks Zone, if you find planets and moon there chance are good to find planets or moons with liquid water ocean or few lakes
@@vkobevk yeah we need to know for sure
X-rays and other short-wave lethal radiations would likely be the main factor to consider before even envisioning any place (even with a nitrogen/oxygen atmosphere) to inhabit. Otherwise, it's going to look like life on Mars. Better terraforming Mars if we are to accept to live enclosed in bunkers and other shielded habitations, or underground. Much closer and much higher chances of success.
The thing unmanned exploration should determine first is the presence of a magnetosphere on any candidate Elysia. This, ideally along with ozone, is the factor that'll protect us from lethal radiation from the star near which we'll choose an Earth 2.0, which is to look for before sending any large contingent of people.
Like Earth, in a small habitable Sun ring… meant for us…Terrans… Unite…☀️under this sun…
I applaud the effort that went into making this. Thoroughly enjoyed ❤
'....along the way, a reactor malfunction damages the ship, precipitating a crisis amongst the ships 7 most powerful leaders. As they enter the proxima centauri system, the crew splits into 7 distinct factions, divided not by nationality, but by ideology and their vision for the new world. After the ship breaks apart, the 7 leaders guide their chosen crew down to the planet surface, seeking their destiny beneath an alien sky.'
@user-sc3ts6lf8rlol indeed, the scenario above (which I borrowed from Sid Meiers Alpha Centauri) is more realistic than this utopian vision 🤣
@@willc1294 sounds like "seveneves"
It's probably real and been on it's way for the last 50 years
Effort? This was entirely created by AI.
This is one of the most beautiful and pure documentaries about space travel and our human future I've seen
This fantasy explains why we will never send people to explore the universe only robots.
Never happen...we are destined to societal collapse way before this Fantasy...just look around 😮
This was absolutely riveting. I got more enjoyment and entertainment from this than most films i watch these days.
If i actually can be bothered finishing them.
Thank you for your kind words
@@VentureCity Why not burn engines for 30 days or 60 days and get there in 25 years?
@@tembavjI can answer that…..I will get back to you in 5 years ! Hang tight buddy 😊
The example of time dilation at 8:03 using a boat on a river was nicely done.
yeah that was great
0:28 - this image right here is stunning. The children born on the space craft, listening to campfire stories from the only elder they've ever known. Relaying truths about that they're travelling to a star system light years away for the future of mankind, and all hopes rely on their survival and success. Something about this image is utterly haunting, yet beautiful. Knowing the elder will pass before their arrival, and that elder probably helped helm the decision to even begin this journey to begin with. What a fantastic video. Thank you.
Very interesting 🤔, can you TransUnion ,be bopp
Bring it on please.
I feel kind of sorry for the first few babys: Never having known earth and will never see the end of the journey.
@@Valfara770 In other words the same as ever.
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It amazes me how surprisingly good and also how incredibly bad AI is at drawing human faces.
Heh, and even worse with fingers!
scary how its almost life like.
How did they animate the AI pictures? Which AI software allows animation?
AI is getting there. This looks like 90% AI driven imagery. It's really good until you attempt to animate the scene. You get some seriously creepy results in the faces and of course in the the hands.
The quick Lion King vocals that came in when he held up the baby in the medical room was hilarious 😂😂😂
You really went all in with using AI to make this documentary...amazing work.
For a one man or a small team you did a fantastic job.
Thank you, glad you liked it
May I ask what is AI? Do you mean computer-generated imagery? It's very weird this was never referred to as "AI" until 2-3 years ago.
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AI means artificial intelligence, and images generated with AI are made using a bunch of prompts, meaning no real effort or skills went into making these images, unlike the computer generated ones which take a huge amount of effort and skills
@@vowel8280 Thank you for this explanation.
Glad I scanned the comments and got it confirmed so I could skip this!@@vowel8280
Very entertaining and thought provoking. To find willing families to spend the entirety of their lives and to die there and never see the new planet would need some rare individuals.
I usually don't leave any comments on videos, however, I just have to say that I thoroughly enjoyed your well-crafted short documentary. Nice work. Truly nice work.
Ummmm . . . yeah, and I like that other documentary called Battle Star Galactica too. ;)
@@scottelly2 Is that the one where they kept circling Uranus in search of Clingons?
@@RobertPilla Actually Kamala Harris found those little brown Clingons and she eats them all day long every day.
And then… they get to the new planet and the star goes BOOM!
Wow. That was incredibly intriguing! Very very well made! A lot of research and well founded considerations went into this. Whoever made this, please do more of these. I want to know about the first 10000 days!
ikr, it's like the scientists themselves made this video, this is a super quality video that feels REAL
After 500 days everybody killed each other, story of humanity.
This needs to be turned into a movie
It has check out Pandorum the movie with Dennis Quaid
This is what I was thinking. I would love to know more about the lives on the ship as it crossed. The idea of dropping a pebble from earth with every birth is a masterful touch.
Try a book. 'Songs of distant Earth' by A C Clarke.
With Matt Damon being stranded by himself on the planet Elysium
100 on Netflix
So, I think you should focus more on how uninhabitable proxima b is. Even assuming it's a perfect Earth clone with a breathable atmosphere and oceans, and an amazing magnetic field to stop the solar flares, *and* assuming its not tidally locked, it's still not going to be extremely harsh
Because proxima cen is still nowhere near a good star to be around. It periodically changes its brightness by orders of magnitude due to solar flares. It can get up to 9 times brighter than it usually is, if I'm remembering correctly. Imagine standing on the surface of proxima b. You're outside, having a good day, when all of a sudden and completely without warning proxima cen gets 9 times brighter and you die from the heat. That would happen surprisingly often, often enough that the first settlements would have to be on the night side, or everyone risks dying just by going outside, even if the harmful raidation is blocked by a magentic field.
Also, it's likely that the first people to arrive there won't even go on the planet at all. Imagine you just arrived at a new system. There are millions and millions of asteroids to start mining and you're ready to start becoming rich and building up all the infrastructure you need. Why go down to the planet at all? You already have a ship that's clearly capable of supporting you for centuries, why go down a gravity well where launching rockets suddenly becomes expensive, when you could remain in space, build more ships like the one you have, and live in paradises farming asteroids? Despite what popular sci fi says, colonizing a new planet around a new star would come *after* you colonized their asteroid belts and build orbital infrastructure. There's no reason to send all your resources down to a planet that'll be hard to launch out of when you're already in space with all the resources you need.
>>t's still not going to be extremely harsh
Stop making sense---you're ruining it for all the scientific illiterates here!!
'Excellent, thank you for creating this, 'inspiring.
A spaceship with a Greek name, towards a new Sun that will have the same name (in Greek) as the sun that we have now : Helios.
I congratulate you not only for your idea but also for its result. Great story, beautifully narrated and fantastic documentary.
Only to find out the planet is populated by a far advanced civilization who has an entirely different name for their planet and their sun.
They could even find the planet already occupied by hostile people.
@@mteokay1246if the planet is inhabited by wild uncivilized peoples that could be a problem.
That the inhabitants 3:25 would be more civilized is difficult because they would have already made a travel to their closest planet or sun: to us.
@@mteokay1246 That would be a great outcome, as the generational ship would be able to send a message to earth to finally confirm the existence of intelligent alien life.
First of all, this is a great format and i really enjoyed the video, thank you for creating it!
The setting itself felt like a common trope for movies where new generation rises up against the set-in-stone routines and rules (how to spend time, whom to like, whom to make family with, how many kids to have, when to die). I believe, this is the unaddressed part - how to include such tendencies into the overall plan so that it won't fell apart the usual way it happens in such stories.
At last someone who does not point this for concluding "thus we will never make it". Thanks 🙂
@@jige1225 Every time I read the comments on a video such as this, there are a gaggle of commenters saying that very thing.
They don't mention religion. Tremendous problem.
@@brianbell3836 How so ? Maybe they rediscover it. Like Dune's Zensunni faith with the Orange Catholic Bible or something similar. Maybe NONE of the Abrahamic religions.
People do love these sorts of videos. And a lot of effort does go into creating them, which is laudable.
But the content creators fail to mention Proxima Centauri is a flare star (look it up, folks), so Proxima B is almost certainty uninhabitable. It may very well have oceans, and perhaps even ocean life-- but no oxygen atmosphere and practically zero possibility for humans to live on the surface.
I'm sure little research went into this video and it's just ai rehashing facts with an ai voice.
if you can live in space for 100 years, why look for a planet? obvious we'll make artificial gravity space stations to live on.
@@murderdoggg That's a possibility, since the whole video is AI generated.
From the beginning, they specified that it is a science fiction documentary. Anyway, the documentary brings many interesting and objective things into view. congratulations.
I loved it because Im really hungry for Solar system/Milky Way galaxy perspective videos. I was always so curious of the distance comparisons
great video! Very detail oriented and interesting
This is the best time dilation explanation that i've heard
But that is completely unfeasible! Nice to wallow in fiction isn't it!
@@trustenbaker8766 what's not feasible? I assume you mean the propulsion? The fusion part is being worked out right now, look up PFRC 2.
Zero chance a dead body would be discarded. In an absolute closed system any body, waste everything, would be precious and irreplaceable. Everything would be recycled.
Yep. That leapt out to me. Gotta have a closed system.
Ummm . . . like it would matter if 150 lbs of human is discarded. Even 5,000 humans that weigh 150 lbs. could be frozen and kept. They would only weigh 750,000 lbs. We're talking about a ship that weighs like three or four million tons or something like that (thousands of times the weight of those dead people). There would likely be a few hundred thousand tons of water alone in massive water tanks. That's many millions of gallons of water . . . enough that wales could swim around in it. Oh, and the ship would have to be bigger than the video says, or the people would probably all die. It would probably have to be something like the size of Battlestar Galactica (ridiculously big).
Just like in earth.
Water is the biggest issue…they would run out long before 100 years unless they can capture hydrogen from space
you could eat the dead bodies
Excellent video. Thanks for making, it must have been a Lot of work 😊
Wao this is the most enjoyable video i have ever seen. You have made me understand alot on bending of time and alot more. THANK YOU
I know alot of work goes into making a vid like this.
Thank you for making it. It was awesome! Hope you make one of the colonist first 100 years on planet.
Glad you liked the video
Ai and they still can't make a proper electric car
@@VentureCity How many hours have been worked on this creation?
Beautiful visuals and good science (I work in the space industry, so I'm pretty picky.) I'd probably start the spin up so the generations arriving on the new planet are born and spend their entire lives in the destination's conditions. I happen to have recently asked a guidence, navigation, and control (GNC) engineer whether doing maneuvers required that you stop spinning. She said that it wasn't, and I think maintaining spin has some advantages. Y'all did great work!
One other thing--rather than having my body ejected into space, I'd rather it be carried to the destination, possibly by being recycled and becoming part of the ship's ecosystem.
On this planet cremations distribute your ashes over a vast area, while burials are carried out at places at which the soil isn't used for food production. Thus you'd have the uncommon experience of eating your dead ancestors if you recycled corpses on such a ship, I fear.
Well, since you are in the space industry, I have a question, how do astronomers know which direction to take when a space ship is light years away from Earth? For example (hypothetically of course!), let's say that you are in a space ship 100 light years away from Earth, how would you know which direction to take to get back? This always boggled me!
@@sns862 You'll make a three-dimensional model of the part of the Orion Spur - our location in the Milky Way - concerned. Stars move quickly, but you can foresee how they'll do it.
@sns862 Actually, you mostly know the answer already--a map. Of course, the map has to be three-dimensional. We already know where the stars are around us for a pretty good distance, so this information already exists. Unlike a map on the Earth, which may be useless if you are randomly dropped in a forest and can't see any landmarks that might appear on your map, space is really empty and you can see the stars all around you. You can use color, brightness, spectrum, variability in brightness, etc. to figure out which star is which. Then you match that to locations on your map, and, no matter where you go, there you are.
In the present, we don't go that far, so we have multiple ways to find out where you are. If you are close to Earth, we can bounce radar off of you. You can send out a radio signal that someone on Earth can use to track you. If you know the time, you know where everything in the Solar System is. If you can find, for example, the Earth and Moon, you can use trigonometry to figure out where you are. There are other methods, as well, such as using pulsars, which are stars that can be used as clocks and timing their signals to figure out how fast away they are and compute where you are.
Lastly, you can use an inertial navigation system. This tracks each movement you make. Since you know where you started and everything you did to get where you are, you now know where that is.
This is a very quick summary and not comprehensive, but I hope it gives you a starting point to learn more.
@@davidvomlehn4495 How much accuracy will inertial navigation systems provide? After all, they'll be tiny as compared with the movements they trace, especially when they're used between stars.
After a 100 year journey they realized they forgot to bring Avocados from Mexico ,Aàaaaahhhh
Ooops nowhere safe to land ....
Then you realize there are no Mexicans onboard. Everybody celebrates
who's he?
And what about tacos? And how about eggrolls?
Oh how heartbreaking that would be. No more guac 😂
I love that “only 4.2 light years away” !
a part 2 will be welcome.... was really interesting ! thanks for sharing !
Man, what a hell of life! I’m sorry for those inside the ship in the future and I’m very happy I’m not one of them. I will even walk on the grass and between trees in a matter of minutes just to get rid of this suffocating nightmare.
This sounds reasonably well researched and thought out. Better than the adventure-centric dramas.
Do more!
He copied everything from Indian TH-cam channels
Really? All of these concepts have appeared in Western literature, movies, radio shows, etc. for well over a century now. He himself said in the video description that his: _"personal inspiration for this video came from the movie Interstellar,_ _the Nauvoo generational ship from The Expanse tv show,_ _and Carl Sagan's Cosmos tv show."_
I don't know why people have to be so mean-spirited and jingoistic.
yes.. but those are made for *entertainment* - much like you trying to sound smart in your comments *SesquipedaliaN*
This is better than every movie that is out there today.
Awe-inspiring content! Thanks 🙏
This would make for a really kick ass TV series. Imagine 1 hour long Episodes. 5 seasons.
First season taking place on Earth, and building everything, the politics of who gets to go, and all that drama. 3 Seasons of the lifes on the ship, Each season being 1 Generation of people and how they change over time, and the final Season being on the new planet. The stuggles they face starting from nothing, and how right as soon as they land. Humans be humans and branch off into tribes.
I even ahve a good name for the TV series. "Helios"
;)
There is already a TV serie on this topic...Lost in Space
How about 100 seasons!!?
Except the humans would branch off into tribes in the second season/generation. Thousands of people living there would make it hard to grow close to everyone, hence, people would form their own little communities within the ships. It would be chaos in the ships before even getting to the planet. Assuming it doesn't end in tragedy (which is a viable option), you still have an alien planet to deal with. From potential similarly intelligent species to bacteria that kills, the final season of the show would be wild. Personally, I would assume the few that survive would adapt and become only slightly human somehow.
@@svedese69 And "The 100"
@@svedese69 Exactly - the Robinsons were headed for Alpha Centauri. Humans being humans branch off into tribes is already done too - read "Lord of the Flies." About a bunch of school kids lost on a deserted island following a plane crash...(gosh that also sounds familiar.....).
This is exactly what I am looking for!
The details of the change in gravity and body composition was well done
Videos like this are what makes TH-cam great! The first step to actually creating this spaceship is to imagine it. Next time I come across a video saying, "People will never leave the solar system," I'll put a link to this video in the comments. I wish you would have said a few words about radiation shielding. And maybe maintenance of the spacecraft over the 100 years, as that would probably be needed.
probability works against it. Do you live in a city? Just look around the public places.
@@paolameyer4937 this isn't a concept that would be put into action anytime soon. honestly this is probably the most probable outcome in terms of us settling on another planet. knowing humans, we probably have the brains to figure it out and the money to make it happen. but the only way humanity would come together to send a new civilization to another planet would be if we all worked in unison, and for that to happen would mean that humanity is on the brink of being wiped out. which means that things would be ALOT more serious and not as laxed and sloppy as it is right now. an advanced civilization such as the one portrayed in this TH-cam video would need very strict rules with dire consequences if broken. Wed actually have a real task on our hands and a reason to improve ourselves. right now humanity is basically a 45 year old alcoholic who only talks about quitting sometimes.
@@Leon-mn8eo Good points. Also, it should be pointed out that there is a difference between science fiction and science. This isn't happening and some of the commenters need to get out of their momma's basement and see the real world.
Τhe fact that we merely and barely managed to overcome Earth's gravity and get to it's natural satteite and stay just a few hours, does not mean that humanity is able to withstand interstellar travel, to begin with. We have managed to see far from our home through telescopes and probes, but this also does not mean we are even able to reach out theres biological organisms. In other words, the distances and the time needed plus interstellar adversities that lie beyond, are such that we most possible will never be able to take that step. Mainly because the situation on our home planet is far from idyllic. Out planet is constantly being scavenged as it is, theres various countries, languages, religions and all that, making it impossible to even come to terms between us as a species. Plus natural resources are far from being endless. In other words, chances are that we first manage to destroy ourselves, either by grand-scale nuclear war, or at least come short considering resources. In conclusion, if I ever see a comment linking to this video, at some other one advocating out inability to even leave the solar system, I'll simply laugh out loud. Humanity would need THOUSANDS of years working in ABSOLUTE unity (and significantly reduced numbers) in order to manage to send such a mission to PCB, and we're so far from that. Once oil wells drie out (and they most certainly will, sooner or later), there's gonna be havoc all around the globe, becuase we're not some couple handred millions devoted to science, we instead are nearly a dozen billions of consumers that "wanna live their life" first, take vacation, travel the world, enjoy exotic foods from the other side of the planet, and all that that make "humanity" in the early 21st century. Sci-fi movies have actually cooked-up our minds, beliving "anything is possible", while that's far from the truth of reality. We've been living in a world that no actual progress in science has been done, since Einstein's equations, in a "high-tech" world enhanced since Albert with tremendusly powerful computers, and yet we haven't managed to unlock the possible physics that will enable us to construct "warp-drive" fueled ships to overcome such distances of the interstellar space. I myself see NO future for mankind, at least the way it's present is today. Best case scenario will be that we get destroyed by large numbers, and only a few "enlighted" manage to survive and dedicate their lives and the lives of their offsprings in building a new universal society of fewer numbers and far less nasty habits, in order to maybe some day manage to unlock the hidden physics that will take them to the stars and their plantes. Speaking of, the very video we're commenting under, is so ridiculous, since PCB is far from being validated as a habitable planet by humans: we only know that it's in th habitable ZONE of it's star. People are full of imagination and generally fulll with themselves and "full of it". But all this fullness does not account for interstellar space travel. I wish I were worng about it all, but I don't think that's the case. And even if we manage to at least build nuclear engines, still it's gonna be a one-shot suicide mission that will never manage to come through....
@@1ugh1but it'll happen relatively soon, In terms of the age of the universe.
I thought the entire idea was thoroughly depressing, being born into an environment where your entire future is pre-mapped out for you, much like the vault-dwellers in the game Fallout, but I loved the golden eyed children. Truly beautiful. Great graphics throughout Venture City.
All who works in NASA, also knows, EARTH IS A CLOSED SYSTEM, NOBODY CANNOT LEAVE EARTH, THERE IS NOWHERE TO GO. They all know it, yet willingly deceive.
+ they are in the masonry club - that says it all.
NASA deals with CGI and Hollywood basements, making “SPACE”, to deceive mankind.
They, masons, wants to finally break the firmament, that`s the only and simple reason for NASA and all its missions.
Yes, I can only imagine the numbers of revolts, breakdowns, why not sabotages, civil wars and new religions... I would say they would have 10% chance of success.
@@profepik7525 Looking at modern America, and 1939 Germany, it's dismaying how rapidly a seemingly sophisticated society can descend into anarchy or barbarism. And that's without someone telling you from the second you are born, what your entire life will be.
As I see it, it would be far too risky to transport colonists in their conscious state.
Just like central planning Democrat Socialists😉
@@RareGenXer th-cam.com/video/6HQaz4VuRF4/w-d-xo.html
please continue making space related stuff series this is a true masterpiece
Bravo. The narration was captivating despite the limited visuals.
This production was excellent. Covered all bases, cross all t’s and dotted all the I’s . Such a wonderful piece of video. I wish it could come true and I wish I could be one of those wonderful people to experience it.
Excellent ? Maybe for those who have no clue about the Science involved ! Ignorant always believes any crap. This upload is 99,9 fiction and BS, and only 0,1% science.
Awesome video 👏🏽 Great stuff! Would love to see another part of the first 10000 years on the new planet
I guess that if you could accelerate from 0 to 4.2% of C in a couple of weeks you may as well accelerate a bit fast or a bit longer to drop the journey time to 40 years or so. Either way, by the time this ship arrives there will be a colony built by people who arrived on the mark 2 or mark 3 ship.
Thought they'd be overtaken by colonists in a better (ie. faster) craft. Fascinating stuff.
most definitely. we've seen this already with satellites. It took new horizons just 405 days to reach Jupiter. while it took voyager 1, 546 days to reach to reach Jupiter. By the time that space craft is in it's 70th year voyage, we may have figured out how to go 25% of the speed of light by then and could get there in 20 years time instead of 100 years time. which would have surpassed the original ship by 10 years to its destination.
@@RhinoXpress You neglected to notice that Voyager 2, which launched 16 days prior to Voyager 1, took 688 days to reach Jupiter. It's not so much a difference in technology, but a difference in the specific mission requirements. For their gravity assists to work, the probes needed to arrive at Jupiter at the right time, in the right place, at the right velocity and at the correct angle. For Voyager 2, that was compounded by the the necessity to do the same at Saturn and then Uranus, for it to be able to reach Neptune.
One problem is that higher speeds would require exponentially greater fuel requirements: More fuel to decelerate the ship at the destination, more fuel to decelerate the fuel to decelerate the ship, more fuel to accelerate the fuel to decelerate the ship at the launch of the ship, and so on. Higher speeds would also increase the energy of impacts with interstellar dust. And, any problems with the engine during the deceleration phase could cause the ship to risk overshooting the target. Higher speeds would reduce the time available to react to any issues and increase the fuel requirements needed to recover.
Didn't the Lost in Space movie (1998) show something like that happening, where the pioneering vessel got beat out by the next gen vessel to arrive at the destination?
The point about the sending of the message taking 4.24 years to arrive on earth is the simplest way of understanding all the talk about seeing into the past when astro folk talk about light from far off suns etc. So "hi it's me, we've made it" is history as it happened 4 year ago. Great video x
Aliester Reynolds sci-fi novel Chasm City tells the story of generation ships travelling from Earth to Epsilon Eridani. It's a pretty dark, but amazing story! :D
Great video. I'm already thinking that a 2nd colony ship would be launched afterwards as a backup just to ensure someone makes it alive to proxima centauri B.
Also, you need to emphasize diseases and other unforeseen disasters that might happen like micro metoerites hitting the ship or critical components malfunctioning and there's no replacement parts.
Plot twist: In the years after Helianthos departed, transformative propulsion technology was discovered, making similar spaceships be able to travel at triple speeds.....the Helianthos 2, launched 50 years after the original, has already reached the planet and its passengers are preparing a Welcome Home party for Helianthos's arrival.
Yeah! Nothing went wrong. Disease, clean water/air, even changing the lighting and gravity everything ran like a clock!
And alien/Mysterious encounters! :)
@@tfdtfdtfd WHAT A TWIST ! But I like it.
I would imagine in a journey like this, it would be from an evolutionary perspective likely as well that the skin colours of the passengers would lighten in response to zero sunlight for multiple generations. That combined with the eye colour change once they land on the planet and you’d end up with a sub-species of humans that were visually very different from earth humans. Amazing video, what’s most captivating about this is that the technology behind this feels like it might only be about 100yrs away to actually do something like this. The difference is that I would expect multiple ships in a small ‘armada’ to go together, and for there to be planned follow up ships etc, rather than just the one.
If their artificial light during the trip contains some UV light their skin colours would not become lighter. And I doubt their eye colour can adapt in a couple of generations. They will wear corrective glasses in the beginning.
it is only 100 years
you need at least 10000 years to change slightly human
except if you soak poor people in radiation or play artificially with their genetic
@@duudsuufd The lighting on the ship will _certainly_ contain ultraviolet rays - that's essential for supplying the body with vitamin D. Especially on a spaceship, you'll not easily produce enough meat or dairy to give everybody the daily doses of that vitamin they need for their skin, bones, and other functions. Pale people are also not very beautiful.
@user-sc3ts6lf8r Yes, and rosy ones are _very_ beautiful.
Yeah, we're going to evolve in two or three generations! Yay! (Sorry, but evolution doesn't work that way.)
I usually don't comment on TH-cam videos but this marvelous sci-fi documentary enjoyed every bit of it. Thank you for making this.
I usually see a lot of people, mostly naysayers leaving negative comments on videos such as this, or else people saying that " we'll never make it without God ! ", etc. I don't see those types of comments here, & I HOPE that it stays that way.
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq We'll never make it with God. Believe in different Gods is the most efficient way for a crew to kill each other before arrival.
As I always say: best content on TH-cam. Hollywood should pick these videos up and run with them...
Thank you
Hollywood, I fear, does not really like difficult subjects like this one.
Beautifully narrated. There shd be a TV show on this epic journey!
I loved it and enjoyed it very much , thanks from my hometown the D.R.
This is an amazing view of what will very likely be our first voyage to another star. It is intriguing, engaging, and very instructive. Along with others, I would love to see Part 2. I've now become a fan of Venture City!
You should read Arthur C Clarke's The Song of Distant Earth. This was influenced by a lot of his ideas.
We'd much likely be able to go much faster than that by the time we need to do this.
@@GrabbaBeer NO chemical rockets, we need something like an Alcubierre Drive that can " fold " space ( I think..... ).
Absolutely stellar production! Big thumbs up! 💯
Interstellar, me thinks. 🛸🙂
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This is really well done, and well thought out.
one of the best documentaries I have come across ...kudos
This was beautiful, exciting and scary at the same time and on top if it an incredible story. I love your videos. Always make me think so much about humanity and our existence
Wow this pretty cool. Very well done, looked great and well researched. I do feel that there is a real ethical dilemma around generational ships. Okay for those that signed up originally, however some people would be born and trapped their entire lives on a spaceship going to a planet they'd never reach, from a planet they'd never been on.
That's why, unless Earth would be in lethal danger, multi-generational ship doesn't make sense. Same goes for any interstellar journeys. Without jump drives or advanced crio-technology it is pointless.
@@Swarzec_Swarzewski If you accept the current mythos and psychological profile of society, there most certainly would be a some effort to send out a ship to colonize a new world. I doubt that anyone would get onboard with the idea of Proxima Centauri B, because there are too few similarities with earth, but there will be a planet discovered within the next century with characteristics close enough to earth that a colonizing effort could be mounted, and there would be enough people volunteer to populate such a ship. Man needs to feel growth, and life is stagnating on earth even now. The realities of the universe are much different than what is currently popularly accepted, so my musings here are just a commentary on a fairy tale. 🙂
Babies accept the surroundings they're born into. They would "miss" the Earth about as much as you "miss" living on a farm in the 1920s.
There is no dilema about that, it is what it is. Covid gave us a glimpse of what it will be like. Its not like most people on Earth can even enjoy travel, and live in their very small location all their lives. Entertainment has advanced so there will be plenty of it, and AI tools are already showing us today how easy is to make vast amounts of content. There will be Education and jobs for the ship, of course.
@@pbierre indeed that is rightly so. We can't even choose were we are born, maybe we will miss things others have but will be completely ignorant of it and live happily. Heck, some may not even want to leave the ship and it should remain as an orbital space colony.
man i just love your videos
Thank you
Best sci fi I ever watched on TH-cam
The inspiration from The Expanse is made clear right in the first second, where we can see the spaceship identical to the Nauvoo. Amazing job. Please release a part 2 of this 😆!
When I saw the ship I thought the same thing. I've seen that before.
Yup, moon mining state ship with rotation gravity. That's a good tv series.
Moon mining? The LDSS Nauvoo had exactly the same purpose as the Helianthus, but with a destination of Tau Ceti.@@TheForgottenVoter
@@kontrarien5721 Tau Ceti: The Lost Star Colony
Even the quote from Fred Johnson.
Very nice, imaginative video. In it, we see the interstellar voyagers avoid any significant meteoroid impacts, the effects of radiation from a number of sources, on-board epidemics, premature depletion of supplies, failure of critical equipment and social unrest/mutiny without any assurances that the planetary chemistry and native biologics (if any) at the destination are in any way compatible to human life. There has to be an assumption the people who planned and funded this passage have spent a few centuries sending a myriad of probes to sample the environment of the potential new home for humanity and have concluded it's just right for occupation.
Over hundreds of million years terrestrial life has evolved and adapted to very specific conditions on Earth. Finding these identical conditions on a planet in another star system is a fantasy.
I agree. In fact, it would be totally impossible. Just like the indians died when Europeans interacted with them, humans would die when they interact with life on another planet, because humans have no natural immunity developed/evolved to alien bacteria from another planet. (Think of the "War of the Worlds" scenario, where the invading aliens died from being killed by bacteria.)
ohh I remembered about the Navoo as well....what an amazing show that was (The Expanse) :) :) Best from Uruguay!
The time dilation explanation was really nice
Fascinating story. Thanks for posting. I look forward to seeing "The First 10,000 Days on Proxima Centauri B". 🙏🏼
Some crucial traits of the planet are anyway known, so it could indeed be possible to make a video sticking to known facts as much as the one on hand also about such a subject.
This was brilliant, beautiful and exciting. The only thing that I think might be different by this time, is the lifespan of humans. As long as our species survives and doesn't destroy itself over the next 50 years, I do believe our lifespans will grow in length exponentially. It's possible that people might be able to survive the entire trip.
Yes, especially if we can put people in a coma and slow metabolism to “fast forward” many stretches. Perhaps wake up for a week once a year so 100 years feels like 4 months
@@jaylewis9876Adding onto that. I think it would be even more efficient waking a few in different intervals throughout the year so they can properly maintain the ship every so often. I’m starting to think we should make our own space administration
Leaving deep freeze sleep aside, humans could become over 100 years already if they were concious about what they eat. This is perhaps the biggest crime of the establishment: feeding the masses with trash, food with nearly zero nutrients.
Next is conciousness of the body one has. Its the only one you have. You can heal so much yourself. We are not supposed to know this because quess-who would loose very much money.
If children were properly educated, a lifespan, a healthy lifespan of 120 years is possible, without thinking of further advancements. Sure thing: this would need a radical change of attitude of the entire world population.
Yeah seven generations over 100 years is kinda weird. Even if we did this today the most wed get would be 4 or 5.
Don't forget that three of the seven generations would be born on earth.
I presume.
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beautifull ! I wish there was a next episode
I enjoyed your video: great graphics were shown and interesting issues were raised, such as alterations in bacteria and possible evolutionary changes in the colonists over time. But I think there were a few problems in the video. In 2014, I wrote a science fiction novel called "The Protos Mandate" for Springer's Science and Fiction Series, which requires the authors to add an addendum supporting the science in their novel. I chose a 107-year multigenerational mission to Epsilon Eridani, a young star with demonstrated exoplanets 10.5 light years from Earth. This might be a better candidate for colonization, since as Delosian points out below, Proxima Centauri is a red star that is unstable and subject to radiation bursts that would be dangerous for colonists. Also, I considered problems caused by the different generations which you didn't mention, such as the desire of some members of a later generation to return to Earth since they never agreed to be on the mission, or the fear of some of these people to land on a planet since they have never known a horizon or what it is like to be in a more natural environment. Finally, the people in hibernation in my novel were not secret rich people but people with colonization skills who weren't needed on the outbound part of the mission and would only use up resources. Along with issues related to crew psychology and preferred governance structure, perhaps these issues could be dealt with in a future documentary.
I agree, but there will not be any evolutionary changes in the population on the ship, only after they are free to randomly breed on the planet. Remember that evolution only works by natural selection and there will not be any natural selection on the ship because the goal is for everyone to survive and reproduce. And, if reproduction and even survival is guaranteed on the planet, there will not be any evolutionary adaptation either.
Hibernation is not possible without damaging the body /cells. So we should not count with it ever
100 years is not nearly enough tiem tocause detectible, inheritable geneitc changes. If Pharaoh Khufu were resurrected today, he would be genetically ialmost dentical to the rest of us today. It would take DNA analysis to spot the differences.
What about the bacteria on the planet that would wipe out the colonists?
That is, seriously, the best explanation of time dilation that I have ever seen. It is perfect.
I loved how scenic the journey to Proxima Centauri B was. I also wonder if there are aliens out there to discover us too. 🔥🔥
Even if there are, the chances of meeting... well go read the Fermi Paradox. Distances in space are INSANE, this is the closest star (which is why they called it Proxima lol) and we are talking 100 years a 4ish% the speed of light to reach it. But anyway Carl Sagan put those gold discs in the Voyagers for such a reason. May have been useless, but he did it anyway. People like that can support such an endeavor or volunteer to go even knowing its a one way trip and they will never see the destination.
Probably won't happen in our lifetime . . . or probably for a least a few thousand years, since the galaxy is almost a hundred thousand light years across, and advanced aliens are likely nowhere near us (probably at least a few thousand light years away). Also don't forget, there are many billions of stars in our galaxy, so it would be difficult for the to detect us, even when they finally could, because our radio waves will have finally arrived at the borders of their civilization (their closest outpost to us).
Great vid! I had no idea all of this stuff is already figured out. Why are we not doing this now?
OUTSTANDING!!! The entire time I was watching this, I was putting myself on that ship.
And that is where you will stay forever.
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I enjoyed this video. It was very interesting to watch. Well done to the production team.
Fantastic work. The many aspects of interstellar travel and survival over multiple generations is excitingly thorough. Very well done!
I imagine there would be some nuances of human behavior that would be difficult to predict on such a long journey in a closed system: Beliefs on family and raising children. Conflict resolution, rule violations, and possibly even punitive actions.
Even if most passengers are eager to participate in a mission like this, this mission may not fit everyone among the new generations like a glass slipper.
"nuances of human behavior" An interesting concept and a lot of thought hard work obviously went into this video. But for the foreseeable future it will remain a fantasy. The human race has a long way to go before it will be ready for such a journey, and I don't just mean technologically. I don't want to sound pessimistic, but just look at how the human race behaves here on earth. More pertinent questions should be "How long before the first murder? How long before the first sabotage? How long before some evil alpha male assumes total command?". Perhaps, "How long before the first war between different passenger groups?" It is OK to have hope, as human beings we need hope, but reality tells me that it is unlikely that the human race will ever progress this far before it makes itself extinct, and probably every other living organism on the planet.
@@stephengraham1153 Everything larger than a cat, most fungal species, all ocean life and an atmosphere in chaos, a predominately desert planet with temperatures between -30 and 65 C. The oceans will turn red purple pink with cyanobacteria and there may be armada storms with peak speeds of 600kmh that stretch from the equator to the poles. It is unlikely that the conditions for civilization would occur again even if humans somehow adapted to it. The fermi paradox in action, the requirements to become a space civilization destroy the lifeforms before they achieve it as the society becomes too complex and sows the seeds of its own destruction
I just think having trained and untrained people behave for such a long time feels unsustainable regardless how good people are in the beginning. Then you have the issues of family life which is never introduced in current space travel. Very different behavior when an astronaut has their family on board vs when they are alone. Then there’s the simple fact that the mission can be delayed due to unforeseen issues which would further exacerbate the previously stated issues. There’s also psychological challenges that can happen just by being in a closed environment and by being in space for that long. Very interesting to ponder.
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Actually the sexual behaviour would be the prime reason for a mission to fail. I presume the people on board the ship are the same random public as on Earth. As the video properly catched (and I applaud for it for raising such an inconvenient and stressful topic), the sexual partner of the each interstellar starship member will be carefully precalculated by a medical team and the rules will only tighten with each generation going forward. I predict the females who fail to comply the strict ship rules will be forcefully impregnated at least two times with a different set of preserved genetic material. Sorry ladies, but that is a real colonization mission, not a space opera. Local laws could be indeed brutal. The sexual violations will shoot off charts, because you simply cant regulate the basic instincts. It's impossible to control. I just see the total havoc of the sexual desperation multiplied by the constant stress of the confined ship areas. Yet I have a good news too. The cute custom androids build to your honest sexual expectations will somewhat help to fill the gap as your real, agreeable and seductive casual partner. Meantime, the interactions with a human partner, with "that" person you do not actually like and do not even see attractive, can be limited to a bare minimum just to comply the government 2 child policy. Even better, the "material transactions" can be done securely and privately via assistants they trust and like in a joyful way. Whatever works, i guess.
Family bonding will be weak, i'm afraid. Therefore the common social nucleus onboard most probably would be a person with a personal multi-role assistant. Plus "that" prescribed human partner you have to somehow coexist with.
Space faring is for machines. Machines build machines. Machines build machines. Machines build machines. With enough machines job will be done.
The true irony is, about 25 years after departing earth FTL is realized and a 55 year old colony of 30 thousand people is waiting for them. LOL
that was awesome. really enjoyed it. well done
I think this would be excellent backdrop for a great live action scifi movie or better yet a series. So much world building potential, so much could be explored in great detail. Perhaps the story could follow several families, descendants of the first generation that left Earth and their struggle to survive and build a new civilization on an alien world. Obviously you need a script writer who doesn't screw it all up by trying to make it a pure action movie or inserting too much drama and thus obscuring the story's potential to portray what living in an alien world could be like. I can just imagine all the challenges that might arise. What if the planet was geologically unstable or had significantly more or less gravity than Earth, what if many of native animal species were large and dangerous, what if the planet were periodically exposed to solar flares or didn't have a moon so the axile tilt of the planet was constantly in flux. Perhaps it's a planet that is tidally locked where one side is constantly in daylight while the other side is constantly at night with a narrow band in perpetual twilight. There are endless possibilities but it would be great to see some of them explored in detail on the big screen with a small band of characters to provide a first person perspective of what the first human colonists would see and experience on an alien world! Anyway that's what I thought of when I first saw this documentary.
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Wauw, exactly my thought
Have you never seen the movie, The 100?
Read the book Non-Stop its a 1958 science fiction novel by British writer Brian Aldiss. It is about problems that the inhabitants of a huge generation space ship face
Read Heinlein. Start with Orphans of the sky.
Excellent. I have dreamed of, and painted these adventures for 60 years. I believe I could be able to re-incarnate in time to see the first set of colonists depart.
I do believe that you could reincarnate even _several times_ before the first generation ships lift off. _Many_ times. Generation ships probably are a thing of a far future, and human reincarnation uses to happen in intervals of about one hundred years.
Very nicely done. Thank you.
Wonderfully done. ❤
Proxima Centaury is the closest star to Earth, but up to now, the planet Proxima Centaury B is not considered habitable. For one side, no atmosphere has yet been detected. Also, the star is not as 'quiet' as the sun, it is very variable prone to emit huge ammounts for electromagnetic radiation with enough power to strip any atmosphere around the planet.
Good points. It would also be a hard undertaking to build something, say, on the side of the planet which always looks away from the star. One currently still - or already - needs about a hundred million people for autarky on Earth. Until a generation ship can be built, you can expect an even stronger specialization of production methods. You can argue that robots may take over many tasks, but where do you take a hundred million or more of such helpers from, on Proxima Centauri b?