TESLA TRANSFER ELECTROMAGNETIC COIL COLLAPSE

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  • @mykedoes4099
    @mykedoes4099 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    21:30 Well said, I see it the same way. Pressure fields

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for your comment.
      There is a lot to be learned from those old boys!

  • @passion4z846
    @passion4z846 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I tried this 1 month ago. Almost burned something during the first connection because of my carelessness 😂 But I was surprised to see it working. Another researcher was suggesting to add a big coil for more back emf. I didn’t continue after because I am working on a solid state circuit for back emf. It is the easiest circuit ever to play with back emf.

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for your comment.
      Yeah we really need to be careful with this system that’s why I like the AA version so much but I understand it’s just human nature to make it bigger! Bigger is fine as long as we realise, bigger means a bigger bang when we make mistakes.
      Adding a coil to this is the next step, in fact a transformer is supposed to be placed on the high voltage output of the relay coil which allows for a magnetic isolation of the electrical circuit. I will eventually get to digital mechanical switching as your doing but I just want to cover these more simple steps first for those who may not be able to afford or feel they aren’t confident to wind coils. This way I’m not excluding anyone if I show you how to do this with components that can be salvaged from wrecked vehicles or broken electronics equipment.
      Please keep me up to date with your switching efforts, the more minds the better I say!

  • @GuardianEngraving
    @GuardianEngraving 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very cool, reminds me of the "Tesla switch" or at least the first half of it and the old imhotep video on the self oscillating relay charger.. Great video, very clean build, love it. May have to search ur other vids, but knowing the connection on the relay would be nice. As from what I can see u have a relay plugged into a distribution block. Just found the ly2n-j, will try figure out the connections from that lol. Cheers for the video

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for your comment.
      If you check the end of the video I placed copies of both circuits.
      I agree it’s not too far from the Tesla Switch, I intend to work toward the full automated Tesla Switch but I want to cover the Tesla Switch in the basic modes first and as we move toward the full thing some people may decide not to continue with the more difficult aspects and just benefit from the basics.

  • @imaginarypoint
    @imaginarypoint 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I've oscillated(closed loop like you did) for over a month). I think they should last for mos(6?). Even at the failure rate replacing them is worth it. On a side note the elec-mag field it puts out can be unpleasant for some.You can feel it in the air. you are correct. When it is running it is best left in an isolated room. It is not just the sound but it gives off something else in the air around it.

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you for your comment.
      You could be right about it being unpleasant, my family don’t like this one and always carry on when this starts up. I’m always very cautious when starting it to get a feel for wether they are going to notice or not, depends what’s on the TV.
      Alternatively we could sound proof a container and line it with aluminium foil to disrupt any electromagnetic shock fields this circuit may be dumping in the local environment.

  • @mykedoes4099
    @mykedoes4099 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would rig the same relay add anotehr winding in series to the relays winding .

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your comment.
      Spot on, that is exactly what should be done, I hope to eventually make a follow up video showing the difference but just wanted to get the concept going again.

  • @FaustoGomes
    @FaustoGomes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very interesting how you made the whole Tesla Switch starting first with AA batteries, just a few, later more AAs and now 12v batteries and running a load and an Inductor and harversting the BEMF into the Driving Battery while Transfering the Energy to the Receiving Batteries.
    .
    Very very very clever way to SHOW PEOPLE step by step of the progression based always on experimentation and real empirical data irrelevant of what the "science" says.
    .
    Now I understand the power of this Tesla Switch system (even though manual now), you use the power stored in a bank to run a load, by transfering a good portion back into another bank, then you take some of the energy from the load and make it give you more power back into the source by using induction, brilliant.
    .
    I have done so many experimentations with this idea but I never really understood what we are doing here. I was pulsating and switching the batteries too fast but thanks to you I see how to use it correctly and how to test it slowly and surely. Thank you man.
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    Big question: I am just a little bit confused how you connected the RELAY. I know relays well. Could you, please, describe in a diagram how you connected the Relay to the circuit? How the it activates and then turns off and then repeats without using a pulsating control?
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    Many thanks.

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for your comment.
      I am glad I helped you understand this a little better, that is my true intention with my channel, not to show off but to help people see simplicity in these systems, how everyone can do it. Thank you for watching.
      I believe there is a schematic at the end of the video, or perhaps it was another video, I will check after leaving this comment and edit this post.
      I believe this is self triggered because it is an NC relay (Normally Closed).
      This means when not powered the circuit is opened and it closes when powered. When connected as I show it creates a self triggered self oscillation.

    • @FaustoGomes
      @FaustoGomes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@whatifididthis...1236
      .
      You're right, in another video you show the relay in detail. Thank you again. I am also replicating this experiment as I type.

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @FaustoGomes Awesome, please be careful, the back E.M.F. spike is extremely high voltage and potentially lethal.

  • @davidiom27
    @davidiom27 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video, I just made my battery switching circuit parrellel and series with switches in between so I don't need to remove the batteries to swap them. also needs two switches on the output to reverse the polarity when I switch them from series to parrallel. I'll post a video showing the tesla swtich ive made thanks to you.
    In this video, what voltage is the relay? I presume its 12v.

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your comment.
      I’m very keen to check the switching setup you have arranged, feel free to link your video here for everyone to replicate.
      The details for the relay are as follows.
      Omron LY2N-J
      Designed in Japan
      IEC255
      10A 240VAC
      10A 28DC
      10A 240V AC1
      10A 28V- DC1

    • @davidiom27
      @davidiom27 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      th-cam.com/video/-Jn3NRPKQwM/w-d-xo.html @@whatifididthis...1236

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for sharing.

  • @elizabethaya156
    @elizabethaya156 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hope someday we talk about buck boost converter with bifilar coil

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your comment.
      I am sorry for my delayed reply. Please remind me of the discussion you wanted to have re the buck boost converter and I will respond a little faster this time.

  • @mykedoes4099
    @mykedoes4099 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    15:20 Thats cause your inductors resistance is too low . Get rid of the amps go for the volts

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for your comment.
      Technically this is an incomplete circuit and is supposed to have a high voltage coil on the output for even greater efficiency as we all know the volts is where the magic happens.

  • @mykedoes4099
    @mykedoes4099 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I see no reason one cannot pulse two or more inductors in parallel as long as they all have at least 30 ohms and there own HV diode output

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your comment.
      I agree, as long as the combined current draw for all parallel inductors does not exceed the recharge rate of these batteries which is 0.8 amps. Having more than this amount entering the parallel battery bank will obviously be bad for the batteries. Other batteries with higher charge rates may not have this issue.

  • @mykedoes4099
    @mykedoes4099 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its an open loop system (Not Closed Loop)

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your comment.
      Agreed, I have always found a reduction in efficiency with any system with the closed loop concept. In my experience it is more efficient to charge an external battery as opposed to feeding back to the main circuit, not always but most of the time!

    • @mykedoes4099
      @mykedoes4099 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@whatifididthis...1236 Actually I interpret the open loop part of the circuit as the section where the switch is open and the inductor is open to external reception aka not connected to the circuit per say like removing either the neg or the pos , not necessary to remove both neg and pos to remove the inductor from the circuit , so essentially the indictor is isolated when the switch is open isolated to the environment and open from the circuit

    • @mykedoes4099
      @mykedoes4099 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@whatifididthis...1236 technically speaking a pulse circuit is both an open and a closed loop circuit 50 % Open 50 % closed , depends how its wired in the case of the BEdini SG its wired so that the inductor is split in two sections using one circuit , each section of the circuit is separated by half using the source power and the load , where as the load is only connected during the open loop section and the source is connected during the closed loop section

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mykedoes4099 My apologies, I thought you were referring to the most common question “can you loop it?”.
      I understand now that is not what your saying, I believe the collapsing coil is everything, this is the ambient entry point, it reminds me of the hammer shock on a water pipe if you turn off the tap too fast, the energy can’t be destroyed so it shakes its way through the building transformed into another form of energy. In this instance the energy banks up and surges, in my opinion anyway, I could be wrong though.

    • @mykedoes4099
      @mykedoes4099 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@whatifididthis...1236 Thats so funny like 2 days ago i was also comparing the water shock pipe thing to the flyback. Also when you drop an apple it does not bounce back to its drop height but another material bounces back to and even higher than drop point for example a golf ball. Density may be a factor to this reactionary force

  • @marcelfiechter7436
    @marcelfiechter7436 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This last 2 videos are great. If the 12-24v-lamp is running without the relay running I think the current will be lost I think.? Rick Friedrich did the same in a video a couple of years ago. But I didn't understand it how he explained it. But now I got it. Or at least I would know how to reproduce it. I'm just curious if it would be also possible to do it with a Mosfet. There is also some sort of Back-EMF. This way this noise-problem would be solved. But I think the coil is needed to get this effect.

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your comment.
      I’m glad I could help you understand this a bit more, sometimes it isn’t necessary to understand something as long as you can use it. Most of us know how to drive a car but the amount of people globally that understand the operation of the combustion engine is probably closer to 0% than 1%.
      You could do this with a mosfet, the important thing is the connect and disconnect, the on and off is where the extra power comes from. Assuming you use a mosfet it would be a good idea to have a coil as the collapsing field is replenished by the earths magnetic field and this is a large source of the circuits power.

    • @marcelfiechter7436
      @marcelfiechter7436 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@whatifididthis...1236 I did a test with the energy transfer from 24v-bank to 12-bank. First I discharged the fully charged 12v-battery in a conventional way with 290 Watts (22 amps) with the Victron-Inverter and a vacuum cleaner. It took 4 hours and 50 minutes and discharged 1.4kW. Then I discharged the same with 24v/12v-transfer. I have to mention that I have just 3 batteries altogether. On the receiving side was only one 12-battery. All 3 batteries are identical. It took 4 hours and 51 minutes and discharged also 1.4kW. Then I discharged the 12-battery in a conventional way again to see if there is really in what should be in. It took 4 hours and 53 minutes and discharged 1.4kW. This way I have the proof nothing is lost. But there was a big problem. The 24v-bank was also empty. They should be only 50% empty. I see 3 possible reasons for that effect. If there is just half the size on the receiving side the 24-bank is discharging the double portion and there is no benefit. The second reason could be this 24-12v transfer just doesn't work. Or the third reason could be that my 24v-bank was not completely charged. But I charged it before and I tested also the capacity now. And each battery has also the capacity of 1.4kW. I will make the test again for that reason. My question to you, could it be that the bigger bank - in my case the 24v-bank - is drawing the double portion if the receiving side has half of the amp-capacity of the 24v-bank?

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@marcelfiechter7436 I believe most of your power is lost when you used it in the conventional sense and the rest lost because of using three batteries instead of four batteries.
      It is important to note that without coils or switching this system will not gain anything from the ambient.
      The only gain when using this setup, with four batteries, is a reduction in amperage for the load when compared to the conventional sense and the power stays within the system unlike when you drained the 12V battery conventionally you removed the power from the system.
      The series batteries are supposed to be flat after transfer because their power has shifted to the parallel set, if we don’t rotate the batteries we lose all power in the system.
      The battery capacity is very important for this system, if we use three water tanks of equal capacity, two water tanks are up on the hill and connected to the third tank at the bottom of the hill. The two at the top if full are going to drain all their water into the lower tank and because their is twice the volume that the lower tank can hold an entire tank of water will be wasted into the environment. Therefore the capacity of both banks must be the same, the voltage doesn’t matter as much and is arranged to suit the load but the capacity does matter. eg. in the AA version if I use 3x AA on the series side then there is 3x AA on the parallel side or 5x AA on the series side must have 5 on the parallel side.

    • @FaustoGomes
      @FaustoGomes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@whatifididthis...1236 I agree with your conclusion about the need for a same capacity system in both sides.

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FaustoGomes Thank you for your comment.
      I like the water tank analogy for this one as it gets me thinking in terms of volume. The tanks on the hill that are full are connected to tanks at the bottom of the hill, we need the same capacity tanks at the bottom of the hill or the excess will spill over and return to Earth.

  • @arunbirla9053
    @arunbirla9053 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for making this video with much effort and a lot more details, when I am trying to search for this relay I am getting 12v dc, 24 v dc , 120v ac and 220 v ac … I think you have used 24v dc … pls clarify.

    • @marcelfiechter7436
      @marcelfiechter7436 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm quite certain he used a 12 volt relay. It's because between the Positive of the 24v-bank and the Positive of the 12v-bank is a difference of 12v (24v-12v). It can't work with 24v.

    • @arunbirla9053
      @arunbirla9053 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@marcelfiechter7436thanks a lot for helping out and that too w correct logic.. really appreciate it.

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for your comment.
      I will write down everything that is on the blue casing so everyone can be sure of the exact relay, however other NC relay will work. I hope this helps.
      Omron LY2N-J
      Designed in Japan
      IEC255
      10A 240VAC
      10A 28DC
      10A 240V AC1
      10A 28V- DC1

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marcelfiechter7436 Thank you for helping with the answer.

    • @Caesarus2011
      @Caesarus2011 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Simplicity always amaze me and always lead to high efficiency. It looks like a resonant circuit with batteries and your explanations of why is working is just common sense. Yet another proof of how wrong “we” (I mean them) are using electricity and squeeze every drop of hydrocarbons from the planet unnecessary to meet our demand for energy.
      And all of this just to preserve the status quo of unscrupulous politicians and businesses.

  • @ЯнисСтупин
    @ЯнисСтупин 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what about a car inverter 12/220-110, 50-60 hertz, small for 150 watts?

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for your comment.
      You can use an inverter with the Transfer method no problem at all.

  • @rockon1122
    @rockon1122 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awesome research work, very clear explanation and schematic. Thank you! Waiting for batteries and relay I ordered online to come in so I can try this out. Do you think adding more relay will increase power flow and power gain?

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for your comment.
      It is more than likely that more relays would increase the power coming into the circuit, they may need to be isolated, I’m not really sure as I have not tried that. I believe it would, sometimes it is easier to explain why the idea wouldn’t work, if you can’t punch a hole in the theory your either correct or lacking imagination to see the hole.🤣 My thinking is, what is the difference, we get X power from a singular magnetic field collapsing, why would a second coil hinder the collapse of the first? The answer is, if isolated, it wouldn’t.
      Now we have 2X, as long as the threshold isn’t met, ie. too many coils reducing voltage to each coil.
      Either way, good idea and it should be tested.

  • @creatingawareness1947
    @creatingawareness1947 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ever considerd building hv battery? To get some 220v appliances running. What would your approach be? Interesting footage. 👍🏼

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for your comment.
      You can use a 220V inverter DC to AC to run your 220V devices in the same manner the relay coil is connected in this setup, between the two positive connections. When the batteries in the series side are flat you can swap the batteries around and repeat the process. The number of battery rotations is determined by the efficiency of the load, in this case this will include the inverter and the device you run from the inverter.

  • @tentative_flora2690
    @tentative_flora2690 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would challenge you to run more amp hours off of this circuit then the ratings of the batteries combined before claiming that there is extra energy being produced. those batteries have plenty of power to run an led for a year, or that relay for a month. It's not impressive in my mind.

    • @AverageJoe2020
      @AverageJoe2020 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He has no clue as to what he is talking about.

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your comment.
      Whilst I have not run this device for seriously long run times it is not my creation and the original had been tested for long periods without issue. I have also watched videos reviewing this design and the confirmation that it lasted much longer than expected.
      You are correct regarding the LED, I had intended to disconnect it but I forgot, in fact the LED is supposed to be disconnected in this design for even greater efficiency. There are a few modifications that can be made to the circuit that either allows for self charging or running a 110 volt light.
      I’m not attempting to impress anyone, so your statement is fine, I am merely documenting the devices I have researched, other than the videos of mine where I explicitly state this is my invention or creation, I will be mostly covering the items born of the minds of others. If you would like more relevant information for this one let me know.

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AverageJoe2020 Thank you for watching.

  • @tisserandstephane7845
    @tisserandstephane7845 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don’t forget this : tesla switch is a kiler battery !
    I hope’you are right with your shema

    • @whatifididthis...1236
      @whatifididthis...1236  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for your comment.
      I don’t believe that is true if setup correctly. The report that was made by Electrodyne Corp. a company that tested the full Tesla Switch with a 2 kilowatt load over a 3 year period states as long as the pulses were kept between 100 Hz and 800Hz that the batteries would be fine and in fact in better condition than the batteries used in the conventional sense.
      My personal experience is my batteries are still going strong and I can confirm what Electrodyne Corp. also stated that the batteries bounce back to their full capacity under normal charge and at rest quicker than they originally did prior to being used in the Tesla Switch.
      I personally would not use this on lithium though, I know people have used lithium without issues but I have had issues with lithium as it does not like high voltage discharge which can cause fires and destroy the batttery BMS that most lithium batteries have.

  • @AverageJoe2020
    @AverageJoe2020 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Find another hobby.