King David is the best podcaster in South Africa. He's polite, respectful but asks the right questions. Lekota is captured. He doesn't want land taken from thieves
I've been looking forward to this interview. I will watch later this afternoon, thank you. Please, can you also GET baba MZWAKHE MBULI on the podcast, I'm sure the man has a story to tell. Pleeeeeeeeeese
Lakota might know history but his mind is captured he dont want to accept that this land belong to Africans and was taken by force and must be shared equally😊😊
Land can't be shared equally... Land belongs to those who win the war. We lost the war, we lost the land. . Until we win the war, there will be no land for us..!
@@nyikiwamabunda9823 72% kzn black hands \50% eastern cape black hands 🙏 Gauteng orthwest orthern Cape freestate province Batswana people and Basotho land ... Others can share Limpopo and mpumalanga😂😂😂😂 now we are talking 😂😂
Nobody can do this kimd interviews than Bra David He has the ear and patience for this thing. Good political story telling by Bra Terror Lekota. The episode was short for my liking.
Thanks bra David, I can't help but remember how we used to look up to izinkokheli zethu, like Mr Lekota, unfortunately most of them including him betrayed us,
We really need Part 2. I will give Ntate Lekota 90%, 10% he ia failing to reason his mind about the Land. He is the best to teach us a lot, when it comes to our History.
When he questioned whose land they are going to take to make state land, he made my day. As people who bought our own land, allowing it to be expropriated without compensation will be wrong not only for white people,even for blacks that own their land.
@@motoaisusan3124 He's not conflicted, he knows what he's doing, the man was in SASO and it was clear on the land question. This is a matter of funding and constituency. He knows that the radical vote is gone, the liberal vote is forever vacillating and he can easily get a lot of liberals to vote for him.
Ntate Lekota is good at narrating the history of our politics. Unfortunately he doesn't have the plan to bring equality in SA. He must leave politics, he played his part. He cannot deliberate the issue of the land. Kudos to you David, your line of questioning was proper.
Ntate Lekota we do not want to kill or fight, we merely want to live.We're so tired of surviving and being oppressed by White dominance.Tupac Shakur once said : "when a hungry man looks through the window and see how others are enjoying the best times of their lives, knocking and asking to come in and also enjoy what they are having.Being denied for so many times the man now not just knocking, but kicking the door and screaming with the the hope that someone would listen, but with no avail.Eventually the man breaks the door and got inside."...and we all know how that story will end.
The Land issue in the Freedom Charter is killing the beautiful political history ntate Lekota narrated. Askies Ntate wa rona, we love you but it is impossible to pursue Economic Freedom without Repossessing the land by all means possible...😊
On the issue of land Lekota is so terrible his argument lacks rationale and he seems to be a person captured to push a certain narrative above reason. We all know blacks were excluded from ownership of land which allowed whites unfair advantage and lots of lands owned by blacks and other land by kings etc. So whatever argument you must make you must acknowledge this fact.
Mr. Lekota is missing a very big element of the land question, which is that no one says white people must go back to Europe, we've come to accept them as South Africans, what we actually call for is equal sharing of the land. This means, Black people must own as much land as the 4.5 million white people. It can't be that black people are landless, and therefore poor, whilst whites own 79% of the land and rich. One person cannot own 500 hecters of land alone whilst the rest are living in small roomed houses in Alexandra
Dave, thanks once again. We are waiting for part 2 please. And please press him on the land question. He must state explicitly where he stands on nationalization of land with or without compensation.
uMkhonto We Sizwe Unemployed Ground Forces makes a clarion call to all unemployed people in South Africa to rally behind Msholozi and vote for MK PARTY on the 29 May 2024 to achieve the two thirds majority victory 🖤💚
I find it quite contradicting to say Catholic church was against apartheid , when the pope himself gave a decree of discovery to europeans to go colonize africa.
I think there was and still a lot of confusion and division in the Catholic church. Many of the follows don't really know and understand what their church really stands for hence many think many of the evil doing accusations are lies & conspiracy theories.
À brilliant story teller he is but his politics on current affairs are too apologetic they prove how they got us here. We shall be eternally grateful for their input but it's time they leave things to us.
In politics arena you need to differentiate a true man and a politician, it's very rare were you'd find a blend of a true man and a politician in one because those are first people who their work follows even when they Dead.
The long and the short is the question did anybody in this world ever had the choice to be born a race or in a country of his choice if so give me that contact details please What we forget and I mean all of us is that we are placed where we placed by a higher authority for a purpose and that could be for the good or the evil and that is where your accountability starts because now you have been given a choice. If you try and fight God's plans you have already lost because evil can never ever win. What we need to do is to find and try to understand each other that is the good side or fight each other and destroy everything thats good.Just remember it is choice given by our Creator and you will be hold accountable for that one day Let us pray for our beautiful country and hold hands to build and preserve it for our children Amen
You mean well but the reality is that more & more previously disadvantaged people still haven't recovered from past injustices, the trauma is still there in those communities and in the people hence we see a lot of disfunction & destructive behaviors. They can't create well functioning communities, Can only hope for the best for everyone.
I'm glad that Terror mentioned the unspoken history that the first Europeans to arrive in SA were the Portuguese not Jan Van Rieebeck, this history distorts this nonsense historical fabrication which says there were no black Africans here, when Vasco Da Gama's voyage landed in the Cape there were Zulus and Xhosas there.
Sir you are a good interviewe but this one was not complete. You started and finished but you the middle is short. The end needed more information though. Please bring him again
….worse it was written by a non Afrikan hand translated from scraps of paper hastily jotted down by the masses during the meet and thrown into a metal trunk case…
King D.. I think it's important that we have our history of revolution according our fore kings like Terror, Malema, Ramaphosa, unfortunately King IFP is late, Queen Madiba is late... We need that.... This is the past and future we need.
The old man is a loyal custodian and beneficiary of the establishment. He doesn't see anything wrong with the inequality in South Africa where the minority owns 72% of the land with Blacks owning 4%, Coloureds 14%, and the Indians 4%. In a nutshell, he's the true definition of a sellout.
King David mentioned something about Limpopo being an independent country/state, but the present-day Limpopo was never independent. It was part of the Tranvaal. The apartheid government introduced the batustans/homelands, and the present-day Limpopo was divided into 3 homelands, namely Gazankulu for Tsonga people, Lebowa for Northern Sotho(Pedi) people and Venda for Venda people. Those 3 homelands were the ones that were independent, but they were still under the apartheid government. In 1994, those 3 homelands were integrated into one province called the Northern province, which was later changed to be Limpopo, Mapungubwe was another proposed name for the province.
If the Congress of the people formed in the freedom charter that😂 South Africa belong to all ❤who lives in it black and white , what are we fighting for .❤who does South Africa belong to which race 🙏🙏🙏
If the likes of Lekota had stood their grounds black people would be free by now but they decided to sell out when they had a chance to change the country for the better and forgot the main purpose of the struggle which was land not to vote and access to tender system.
Lekota is misleading here. He was part of SASO meaning that he interacted with a lot of PAC people. The PAC has always been clear on the coloured question. Coloureds are African, they can only be traced back in Africa and nowhere else, even if the particular coloured person has only Malay/European heritage, they are African as they can only trace themselves in Africa. The PAC goes further to say that Africa is for Africans, not blacks nor whites as there's only one race, the human race. White people can qualify to be African if and only if they owe their allegiance to Africa and Africa alone
Only those who pays loyalty to Africa ;he qualifies as an African ;weather white ;Indian;coloured is simple is all over the world is the same China for Chinese; india for Indians ; England for English please read the book of sobukwe ;how can a man die better.thanks
BoLekota ba fedile, they've sold us out watseba he is indeed a historical mistake, they've allowed and matained the status quo to self enrichment, Lekota o utswitse tshelete during arms deal, ba re senyetsa nako ka lefela
King David is the best podcaster in South Africa. He's polite, respectful but asks the right questions. Lekota is captured. He doesn't want land taken from thieves
Steal back the land? Destroy the economy
Black people can't handle the land. It has already shown by those who got land, they are not doing anything about it.
I've been looking forward to this interview. I will watch later this afternoon, thank you.
Please, can you also GET baba MZWAKHE MBULI on the podcast, I'm sure the man has a story to tell. Pleeeeeeeeeese
Totally agree, Mzwakhe Mbuli would be great for this podcast.
Mthombeni mfwethu wa-raiser a serious suggestion u-Mbuli has a lot to be shared.
Mzwakhe Mbuli is forgotten hero.
we need part 2 very fast, this class finished before time.
yes this was history subject
Lakota might know history but his mind is captured he dont want to accept that this land belong to Africans and was taken by force and must be shared equally😊😊
Maybe you are the one that is captured
The man is denying knowing a fact that SASO spoke of saying that coloureds are African and whites can qualify to be African
We can't share it equally it's our land
Land can't be shared equally... Land belongs to those who win the war. We lost the war, we lost the land. . Until we win the war, there will be no land for us..!
@@nyikiwamabunda9823 72% kzn black hands \50% eastern cape black hands 🙏 Gauteng
orthwest
orthern Cape freestate province
Batswana people and Basotho land ... Others can share Limpopo and mpumalanga😂😂😂😂 now we are talking 😂😂
Nobody can do this kimd interviews than Bra David
He has the ear and patience for this thing.
Good political story telling by Bra Terror Lekota. The episode was short for my liking.
spot on... Bra David is the best.
Thanks bra David, I can't help but remember how we used to look up to izinkokheli zethu, like Mr Lekota, unfortunately most of them including him betrayed us,
We really need Part 2. I will give Ntate Lekota 90%, 10% he ia failing to reason his mind about the Land. He is the best to teach us a lot, when it comes to our History.
When he questioned whose land they are going to take to make state land, he made my day. As people who bought our own land, allowing it to be expropriated without compensation will be wrong not only for white people,even for blacks that own their land.
I think he is conflicted on the land issue.Thank for the history lesson though.
@@motoaisusan3124 He's not conflicted, he knows what he's doing, the man was in SASO and it was clear on the land question. This is a matter of funding and constituency. He knows that the radical vote is gone, the liberal vote is forever vacillating and he can easily get a lot of liberals to vote for him.
Great interview, very likeable old man. We thank him for his contribution🙏
Ntate Lekota is good at narrating the history of our politics. Unfortunately he doesn't have the plan to bring equality in SA. He must leave politics, he played his part. He cannot deliberate the issue of the land. Kudos to you David, your line of questioning was proper.
Thanks. Lekota is our elder. ANC 1923, i didn't know. Thanks for his contribution. However with regard to current politics, he is old to debate.
Great guest, he taught us some valuable history lessons.
Nam ngiyavuma
Lekota is an icon in his own right.
An icon is a sirious word not this stupid
Ke maketse fela watseba
@@christophersemenya9890 o makaditse ke eng my brother?
Ke icon in his right. Mme kea dumela
Nix
Lekota can speak for 30 minutes without gossiping and preaching swaart gevaar which many has come to know as politics these days
Ntate Lekota we do not want to kill or fight, we merely want to live.We're so tired of surviving and being oppressed by White dominance.Tupac Shakur once said : "when a hungry man looks through the window and see how others are enjoying the best times of their lives, knocking and asking to come in and also enjoy what they are having.Being denied for so many times the man now not just knocking, but kicking the door and screaming with the the hope that someone would listen, but with no avail.Eventually the man breaks the door and got inside."...and we all know how that story will end.
He just couldn't explain how we can fight inequality because he was against the land points David was trying to outline...
What a good story teller.You really taught us that a nation who doesn't learn from history is doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past.
Africa has less than 5 million white and more than 600 million blacks crying oppression all over the place I am going to Botswana pula Nala
I had an opportunity of meeting and spending time with this gentleman. So much wisdom.
Beautiful conversation ❤❤
Ntate Lekota is captured, he will never get into the issue of the land. He is even running out of excuses
It's because of his association with the Roman catholic church
Wow ìs still there one of the best catholic school my home town
Bra Dave, We need an interview with Mam' Naledi Pandor.
Agreed
Agreed.
Heita King Daving, ask Terror about his relationship with Mbhazima Shilowa and what happened to the later in COPE set up.
Mr Lekota is good, I like the way he explains history. Love it David
Now i understand why He fought with Malema in parliament over land expropriation and the marginalised definition😢
The Land issue in the Freedom Charter is killing the beautiful political history ntate Lekota narrated. Askies Ntate wa rona, we love you but it is impossible to pursue Economic Freedom without Repossessing the land by all means possible...😊
Ntate Lekota is a good storyteller of history.ke rata how he points areas on the imaginary map.im on 34min but fascinated already.
Umrhabulo🌍
Bitsa terror gape this mxn is a history book of south africa
Do it pls king David i love this❤ authentic podcast
On the issue of land Lekota is so terrible his argument lacks rationale and he seems to be a person captured to push a certain narrative above reason. We all know blacks were excluded from ownership of land which allowed whites unfair advantage and lots of lands owned by blacks and other land by kings etc. So whatever argument you must make you must acknowledge this fact.
Lekota is right.
The old man has lost the light i think what is left with him is being Catholic 😂😂
….a classic case of cognitive dissonance in full display 😔😔
If ideological bankruptcy was a person.
He was laughing throughout that topic. I mean it's not funny. He knows the truth, he just doesn't wanna go there.
I enjoyed that history segment more than my history class in high school
Much respect to ntate Lekota.... Thanks bra Mdeva
Basically anc will never give us the land back…
Mr. Lekota is missing a very big element of the land question, which is that no one says white people must go back to Europe, we've come to accept them as South Africans, what we actually call for is equal sharing of the land. This means, Black people must own as much land as the 4.5 million white people. It can't be that black people are landless, and therefore poor, whilst whites own 79% of the land and rich. One person cannot own 500 hecters of land alone whilst the rest are living in small roomed houses in Alexandra
This guy is a history book of south africa
Re botse mabitso a di mpimpi
Am interested to know
KING DAVID with another one 🔥🤟🏾😎
Very rich history there... part 2 and 3 please 🙏
Much Respect for Ntate Lekota. But Ntate Aluta continua. That's the truth.
Good interview in full detail
This madala still has ambitious to become president? what can he possibly do for us?
😂😂😂
Dave, thanks once again. We are waiting for part 2 please. And please press him on the land question. He must state explicitly where he stands on nationalization of land with or without compensation.
There's no need for that my brother. Cope won't get a seat come the 29th of May
This interview is beautiful
uMkhonto We Sizwe Unemployed Ground Forces makes a clarion call to all unemployed people in South Africa to rally behind Msholozi and vote for MK PARTY on the 29 May 2024 to achieve the two thirds majority victory 🖤💚
Msholozi was trying to sell the country to those Gupta brothers. If we vote for him he will continue his project to give the country to the Indians.
This title alone is going to break the internet...cant wait for the snippets to go viral lol
Freedom Fighter ✊🏾
Information is power.
Wow very refreshing ntate Lekota to listen to this history
Ngempela it was refreshing
Ntate Lekota is tired, He can be history teacher but unfortunately he has nothing to offer in politics, No drive, Nothing
Liberators should retire, their work is pretty much done. They can just advise here and there
I find it quite contradicting to say Catholic church was against apartheid , when the pope himself gave a decree of discovery to europeans to go colonize africa.
I think there was and still a lot of confusion and division in the Catholic church. Many of the follows don't really know and understand what their church really stands for hence many think many of the evil doing accusations are lies & conspiracy theories.
À brilliant story teller he is but his politics on current affairs are too apologetic they prove how they got us here. We shall be eternally grateful for their input but it's time they leave things to us.
Interesting
This was very satisfying to watch
In politics arena you need to differentiate a true man and a politician, it's very rare were you'd find a blend of a true man and a politician in one because those are first people who their work follows even when they Dead.
Woow beautiful 🔥🙌❤️ can you bring ubaba lindani nkosi❤❤❤
The long and the short is the question did anybody in this world ever had the choice to be born a race or in a country of his choice if so give me that contact details please What we forget and I mean all of us is that we are placed where we placed by a higher authority for a purpose and that could be for the good or the evil and that is where your accountability starts because now you have been given a choice. If you try and fight God's plans you have already lost because evil can never ever win. What we need to do is to find and try to understand each other that is the good side or fight each other and destroy everything thats good.Just remember it is choice given by our Creator and you will be hold accountable for that one day
Let us pray for our beautiful country and hold hands to build and preserve it for our children Amen
You mean well but the reality is that more & more previously disadvantaged people still haven't recovered from past injustices, the trauma is still there in those communities and in the people hence we see a lot of disfunction & destructive behaviors. They can't create well functioning communities, Can only hope for the best for everyone.
Funny that Shilowa and Dandala were actually fit to lead the party. Great interview though. We need part 2 part 3
I'm here for historical knowledge.
Good storytelling😂
but freedom charter did not address the land dispossession
Nina Nkatha senazi Freedom Charter?
These days iNkatha Kazuma is teaching us African nationalism
@@simphiweclement4656 uthena uyinkatha yini udlamini?
I'm glad that Terror mentioned the unspoken history that the first Europeans to arrive in SA were the Portuguese not Jan Van Rieebeck, this history distorts this nonsense historical fabrication which says there were no black Africans here, when Vasco Da Gama's voyage landed in the Cape there were Zulus and Xhosas there.
🤔
land issue iyamhlula
Namuhla I've seen why Cope is declining.
The headlines of this convo 😂😂😂.
Thanks Mashabela for asking very important questions.
His stand point on the issue of land redistribution says it all about this man. Cope will never be relavant to many because of this.
We need part 2😭😭😭
Sir you are a good interviewe but this one was not complete. You started and finished but you the middle is short. The end needed more information though. Please bring him again
Ntate Lekota, has a rich South African history
Ey baba and these days we are fed conspiracies only by political entrepreneurs
but freedom charter did not address dispossession
It actually legitimized it
….worse it was written by a non Afrikan hand translated from scraps of paper hastily jotted down by the masses during the meet and thrown into a metal trunk case…
Part 2 please.
We thank Mosiuoa Lekota for the history lesson but he'll go down in history as someone who sold out the struggle. He's a bitter old man.
I beg to differ with the old man when it comes the issue of the Jews, there is a difference between the Jewish & Zionism.
The very many would have if the government was not corrupt
King D..
I think it's important that we have our history of revolution according our fore kings like Terror, Malema, Ramaphosa, unfortunately King IFP is late, Queen Madiba is late... We need that.... This is the past and future we need.
Nice one
This man is really messed up, he is defending our poverty due to landlessness.
We love Ntate Lekota, he must stick to narrating history. His political consciousness is long on retirement. Whos future is he serving?
Caught it right on time
The old man is a loyal custodian and beneficiary of the establishment. He doesn't see anything wrong with the inequality in South Africa where the minority owns 72% of the land with Blacks owning 4%, Coloureds 14%, and the Indians 4%. In a nutshell, he's the true definition of a sellout.
This guy is lost 😢
Like Zuma!
@@clinicalpsychology9598uZuma ungenaphi?
Free education
King David mentioned something about Limpopo being an independent country/state, but the present-day Limpopo was never independent. It was part of the Tranvaal. The apartheid government introduced the batustans/homelands, and the present-day Limpopo was divided into 3 homelands, namely Gazankulu for Tsonga people, Lebowa for Northern Sotho(Pedi) people and Venda for Venda people. Those 3 homelands were the ones that were independent, but they were still under the apartheid government. In 1994, those 3 homelands were integrated into one province called the Northern province, which was later changed to be Limpopo, Mapungubwe was another proposed name for the province.
Around 9 minutes he almost said 'She went to the ANC' 😅. Then he remembered that he was speaking about a church AME
If the Congress of the people formed in the freedom charter that😂 South Africa belong to all ❤who lives in it black and white , what are we fighting for .❤who does South Africa belong to which race 🙏🙏🙏
Ehhh King Dave comrade Terror must come back and tell us who are those that stole food in prison and now they are in power. 🤞
heeee ban, u bra Terror went to Mariazel.
I was expecting to hear more about himself and his political growth than general history of South Africa…
David is theee BEST of the BEST
If the likes of Lekota had stood their grounds black people would be free by now but they decided to sell out when they had a chance to change the country for the better and forgot the main purpose of the struggle which was land not to vote and access to tender system.
Kind David keeps honouring legends please
As for Kotaville lol I am dead 🤣🤣🤣 bcos ba khathile kota ya LAND 🤣🤣 1:04:40
Lekota is misleading here. He was part of SASO meaning that he interacted with a lot of PAC people. The PAC has always been clear on the coloured question. Coloureds are African, they can only be traced back in Africa and nowhere else, even if the particular coloured person has only Malay/European heritage, they are African as they can only trace themselves in Africa. The PAC goes further to say that Africa is for Africans, not blacks nor whites as there's only one race, the human race. White people can qualify to be African if and only if they owe their allegiance to Africa and Africa alone
M waiting
For julias
Only those who pays loyalty to Africa ;he qualifies as an African ;weather white ;Indian;coloured is simple is all over the world is the same China for Chinese; india for Indians ; England for English please read the book of sobukwe ;how can a man die better.thanks
When he tells history I listen as it makes so much sense, when he debate hayke 😑
Basically Africa is a play ground 😢😢😢😢
Yey this is so unfortunate bafethu, sisodwa and sisek..k..ni apa kwezi leader zethu
I don't know if it's me or kanjani...Ntate Cde Terror Lekota sounded as if he was saying his goodbyes to the nation🤔
Bra David is real gee
Ntate Lekota knows our history indeed, mara hai o ntse ana le beef le Zuma le nou win🙌🤦🏾♀️
I'm now convinced that Ntate Lekota was never supposed to be a political leader.
No wonder COPE is literally politically dead.
You can tell that this man is part of captured leaders he doesn't want to talk about land, but the new generation is coming.
Charterist Of Note
Shuthi they started long time ago using madiba to calm the anger of the masses 🤔
BoLekota ba fedile, they've sold us out watseba he is indeed a historical mistake, they've allowed and matained the status quo to self enrichment, Lekota o utswitse tshelete during arms deal, ba re senyetsa nako ka lefela
Almost all politicians have benefited unduly from the system...
The question remains unanswered... WHO are the Khoi and San??? Where did they come from IF NOT FROM THIS VERY LAND🎉
Thank you For that poignant Question...who is Coloured and who coloured them ❤
Who was The STRANDLOPER. He owned the shores because He ate slept and procreated HERE!!!
Nice t-shirt