There are electric ferries all over the world now and they sometimes use multiple CCS1 or CCS2 cables - Ie pull the ferry up, tie off, plug in a row of 4 CCS plugs. One 3MW plug would be sweet!
@@mtbse789 Shortly after the pandemic, they went public during the worst of the EV slump. Many reverse stock splits and a name change have happened since then. They also dumped all plans to manufacture vehicles. I'm still waiting for a shareholder lawsuit because of mishandling of the IPO, but I doubt it will come.
Sorry to say this, but US is switching from CCS to NACS. So isn’t this charging solution already outdated? Or am I missing something? 😮 Is it possible for them to adapt the NACS plug?
This may have been shot before that was announced. Regardless, the plug is just a plug. Their charging solution is more about the hardware on the other side of the cable, and the invisible software and resulting customer experience.
This plug puts out far more power than NACS is capable of. They could put a NACS on their stations for compatibility but they're focused on charging well over 1 megawatt.
@@GregHassler They showed two chargers. A 3MW specialty charger, and a 1MW-capable CCS charger... CCS and NACS are both "specced" to 1MW even if there are none actually deployed pushing that.
Great video. Its always fun to see Munro Live and what is comming up. I think things are ramping up fast. Really Nice that NXU really showed their company.
I would’ve preferred that the NXU lead paid more attention to Corey too and answered the basic question of cable cooling. I like chopped liver by the way, Icaught Corey do a forehead wrinkle or two.
I'm surprised nobody brought up the MCS charging standard. The MCS standard which is mostly finalized, defines a connector rated at 1250V and 3000A, or 3.75MW. Everyone will be adopting this standard, including Tesla. Similarly, CCS1 is dead. The NACS connector already handles significantly more current than CCS (over 600A), and the 1000V version has been tested at 1000A continuously. The V4 supercharger should be able to easily exceed anything CCS1 is capable of. It's only a matter of time until other EV manufacturers adopt NACS since it's quite clear none of the CCS networks can get their act together and there are serious reliability issues. I know there are numerous other charger manufacturers that are working on multi-megawatt chargers. Tesla has even installed a few for their semis, though AFAIK not with the new MCS v3.2 connector yet. It looks like the MCS 3.2 connector has been finalized. The current debate is over which communications protocol to use.
Another nice video Munro Live team. Nxu has the right attitude, make it happen now, do not wait. During the early days of the Covid-19 Pandemic, Ford, GM, and others seem to just roll over and accept supplies are just not available. Meanwhile, Tesla was figuring out how to use other chips to use and keeps things going. It seems companies that grow are the ones who do whatever it takes to make things happen, including making things they have never made before when needed. These rapid charge speeds just adds more weight to the idea that battery swap stations are a waste of resources. This also means heavy duty EVs, such as the Tesla Semi will make more sense as well.
@@TamagoHeadthere's more money to be made in energy storage and smart grid tech than fast-charging EVs. IMO. Hence all they do is related and have a business case. What's the words they use again? Eco Structure? It takes a long to bring a truck to market, so this other tech can bring in some IRA money while selling much need batteries.
@@pinomastroianni9320 I totally agree! I think there’s a hydro/solar mix dam that uses solar when sunlight is available, and hydro when not is running in Tibet. LFP seems very promising, and as investment costs go down, it becomes easier to amortize/justify Solar for home owners.
"Custom solutions" ? Lol. The power modules and the CCS controller are coming from Phoenix Contact and the HVDC relays are coming from Hongfa. Nothing really custom here, just an assembly of parts sourced elsewhere.
The CCS charger is really just about software and customer experience. Im guessing they really are only even doing that because OEMs cant build enough of them and they need to diversify away from their 3MW solution which only has niche applications.
I didn't see Sandy or Cory getting excited and animated. Actually, they did very little talking. Might have been the pushy salesman presenter constantly patting themselves on the back. Maybe that battery production was at a lab/pre-ramp manufacturing phase and had no differentiating tech.
@@Eric-xp1kl They kept making a big thing out of charging curves as if it was unique to them and had marketable value. The grid storage box was less than polished as it was welded steel structural girders with trex decking mounted at a 45-degree angle. Then they are handing Munro a CCS plug like it was special and they should be praising them. Munro visits everyone and the fact they weren't impressed with anything except backyard ingenuity with stuff like the Home Depot bucket couldn't be more telling. Your 100% right on the money with them being a scam it is criminal how they target unsavvy investors through social media. then change names and directives and branding completely after roughly 4-years when they didn't even have a prototype. I watched with the intention of being open-minded and changing my mind. What they showed was a cash-burning furnace acting like a research lab that had no proprietary tech being developed.
@@chrisborns5972 I liked how the interviewer commented that that information was removed from competing systems. With how long it took him to look up the charging curves: it sounds like it is not put front-and-center.
The gentleman who shows Sandy and Cory round his factory demonstrates how good Munro Associates are at communication. He needs to hire Cory for a day to help him organise his presentation skills. Sandy and Cory are my favourite double act on TH-cam. Sorry I have not had time to watch the whole video. I need to get on with some work.
19:46 Easter Egg... 37 kWh pack he just casually shoves aside. I have a 57 kWh pack that is literally 8 times the size of that and weighs about 704lbs. "Please do not tap on the glass" 😆
Feel bad for those who invested in this company... I don't think they'll be around when Megawatt charging becomes a reality. How does a company transition from an automotive manufacturer (atlis motor vehicles) to a charging system vendor/ battery R&D?? Must be burning cash like crazy.
*It's a smart move. Like instead of mining which cost a lot of money and time, just sell the supplies for mining. You get richer that way.* *That's what these guys are doing, selling the supplies so you can charge your EVs. They'll always be a market for that.*
@@radicalrick9587 They got a bunch of money to open a mine. Then after they got all that money they said, sorry we dont actually know how to do any mining at all, but we can sell our novel mining equipment. Then they covered up the mine with a big sign that says OPENING SOON with PICTURES of what appear to be rebranded pans and buckets over the windows and no signs of them being any closer to actually having novel products, or of them manufacturing any products novel or otherwise. I cant imagine any miners being excited about products they dont know anything about being sold in a store that doesnt look like its ever going to open. Also, where did this clunky mining anology come from? I see a bunch of people using it.
Walk through a development shop interesting. Just showed a prototype battery manufacturing lab. Just showed a few connectors. Good they are making CCS1 simpler No battery construction details just marketing hype No charger construction details just marketing hype Could the charging spike be their control loop not being tuned properly, since it shows up on every vehicle? Is their big connectors cable cooled at 1MW at 1000V it would carry 1000Adc. As an example a 000Awg wire at 500A has a 100degC temp rise, my table does not go to 1000A
Nice video but I’m not seeing anything NXU is doing that Tesla hasn’t already been doing. My Model 3 peaks at 250 kW, which is over 1000 miles added per hour on a V3 charger. Sure they show some improvements in the CCS style charging plug but I think the Tesla V4 chargers that are already being deployed are MagaWatt chargers.
Cory;.... "and Cory", ...i gotta tell you how funny this podcast is, ..to me. The elements at the beginning and near the end are not really relevant to the podcast or the excellent content and products being developed by NXU, but the tiny elements and the interaction of play in Your Productions are just ,...Mint. Listening to yer Boss castigate you for your lack of sunglasses is, well, ...its HILARIOUS. and near the finale of the cast the "and Cory",...well, you just can't teach that in s'cool. I am so glad Your idea, has brought to me the insights of your LEADER, who i think was way ahead of his time, combined with your efforts and expertise in your field, the production of this podcast i find immensely satisfying. Thank you for putting forth the effort the idea to bring this Show to us.
Looks like they are missing the NACS bandwagon.... If they're ready to push 1 to 3 megawatts of power to the cable and they are afraid that the NACS standard isn't/won't be up to the challenge, they should contact Tesla's engineering team to see about pushing the NACS standard forward to accommodate the next level of charging speeds ....
Not just NACS, they're also missing the MCS bandwagon. MCS looks like they learned from the CCS1 abomination and looks like a sane connector rated at 3.75MW. Not only that, it's a standard that will be adopted by everyone, including Tesla.
@@aaronwilliams1249 Looks like the Megawatt Charging System is designed for commercial vehicles like airplanes, boats, and semi trucks. It won't be used on personal vehicles.
Ahhh, was wondering how they compared to other companies claiming high C rate charging... turns out they are that other company. That puts this whole video into a totally different light.
@@Omnis2I sold my stock as soon as I could. Bought the 30 shares when it was something like $3/share. Sold it after the IPO, after it dropped to about $6 or $7
I see lots of R & D, but how do they make money? Is it through custom batteries and charging equipment? Do they plan to make high power chargers for semi’s and ships?
wow! sounds like lots of innovation & development ! also sounds like hours of hard work! congratulations! I hope U'r able to maintain U'r abilities! good luck! super video Team Munro! looks like U need a couple hundred West Virginians, keeping the production high!!
Key point: as Mark said, the infrastructure is at least 2 years away from being able to deliver the present needs for EV charging, let alone future needs as the EV fleet expands. With the Federal incentives to buy EVs it is logical that the government has not ensured the infrastructure needed to "fuel" the fleet is in place BEFORE the demand outstrips the supply - but then again, it is the government, and they only exist to solve problems, particularly those of their own making...
Most EV charging is done at home. The non-home charging infrastructure will develop along with the demand. They’re weren’t gas stations all over the place before everyone was buying an ICE vehicle.
And these guys are what? Another 5-10 years away from delivering out-of-date hardware? No doubt their move to charging was inspired by the Federal incentives.
Well I have no idea what i just watched. This is way over my knowledge base. Cory looking nice and slim keep up the running. Sandy gives me Einstein vibes a lot of the time.
That "spike" is likely due to the lower output resistance of the battery upon charge initiation but then it increases as the battery accepts more current and likely gets hotter. It seems to me that the battery pack must be designed to accept a particular optimized charge program.
This as a primary video focus not unique to their company with really no marketability was very telling they lacked depth as an organization. If I knew Munro was coming I sure wouldn't showcase CCS and a prototype Trex battery box. That product was very 4th grade and they presented it as if they were delivering them to customers.
It was up that high because it was a pump and dump. Their stock is at 50 cents because they abandoned their promises to investors to build a truck. Something they had no experience doing and realized they weren't going to succeed doing
No, it was at 27.5. Anything higher was fake because they did a DPO, not an IPO. There were literally no shares available to sell so the pressure was up. Learn more.
Nxu, Inc. manufactures and markets battery cells and packs, megawatt charging stations, and residential and commercial battery energy storage systems in the United States.
super interesting video, but I was puzzled about the weird diamond shaped connector... From the title, I thought this would be about products in development for the Megawatt Charging System (MCS? with the triangular connector recently standardized?)
Sandy, is that investment advice? ”their stock is at $0.50 Cent you can buy some form your kids piggy bank” Corey I’m surprised he didn’t edit that out of the video.😂🤣
I have to question their in-house megawatt charging connector. Have they looked at MCS? I believe the MCS connector is smaller than their connector and it is rated for 3.75MW, 3000A, and 1250V. While it is still not finalized, it is quite far along in the process which will be finalized next year. The MCS connector is being designed by a consortium of companies, including Tesla, and from what I can see it looks like they have learned from the past mistakes of the CCS1 abomination. Their continued push for CCS1 is also a mistake. It's fairly clear that CCS1 is going to die and be replaced by NACS. The NACS connector is also capable of handling far more power. They keep talking about 200A. Tesla is already pumping over 600A through their NACS connector and there is a version rated at 1000V and they have claimed that they have tested the connector for 1000A continuously. They claim they're the only ones fully vertically integrated when Tesla has been demonstrating their integration for years. They build their own chargers and everything related to them and have by far the cheapest installation cost. It's already known that Tesla's chargers are far, far cheaper than the competition at under $50K/stall for 250KW. I don't think it will cost significantly more for them to up the output to 500KW by moving to their 1000V connector nor do I think doubling the power output of their charger will cost twice as much, and even if it does, it's still far cheaper than $500,000. I also really need to question their claim of constant high-C charging even at high states of charge. Sure, you can do that if you don't care about frying the battery. There's more than just temperature involved in needing to reduce the charge rate in order to prevent the graphite from getting clogged up with lithium or the electrolyte breaking down. They have my BSometer pegged.
A bud of mine called one day...wanted to borrow an oscilloscope..Turns out it was needed as a prop to impress potential investors...Way back in the 1970's :-)
@@patreekotime4578 He would have borrowed that too if I had one...he was running a scam on potential investors. Finally some ticked off investors came to his home, armed, and made a citizens arrest. The ultimate law enforcement in the country are its citizens by the way. We allow all law enforcement to do their job because of convenience...mainly...and technology has taken it out of the hands of most citizens...
Sandy, the best video! I know nothing about this technology, but it gives me hope. I'd still like to see where the power is generated. You know, way back at the start. What are they doing to handle all the new cars and trucks that are coming.
Hook this Lab Experiment to an 800V Porsche Taycan and see how fast it charges. Spoiler alert: not so fast. One of the first recalls was to drastically reduce the initially clamed charging of the Taycan to keep the life of the batteries somewhat reasonable. There is an inverse relationship of the rate of charge and number of charges / useful life of the battery. That's why, as he accidently acknowledged, the vehicles have the "Charger" control so the vehicle manufacturers can control the rate of charge to achieve reasonable life of the battery.
And its exactly why I doubt their claims of being able to charge at 3MW at any point in the state of charge with their (not finalized chemisty??) batteries. He seems to be saying that cooling is the only trick... and sure, maybe that prevents the battery from blowing up while charging it... but absolutely no mention or even aknowledgement of the life-span of their cells with repeated 3MW charges. Im very skeptical.
@@patreekotime4578 The best cooling for automotive batteries is Tesla's and they have said many times that faster charging is possible, but at the expense of life. They have enough data to give an 8 year 100,000 mi+ warranty now. Who else has this? This whole video is NXU looking for $$$ to stay alive.
@@shazam6274 "This whole video is NXU looking for $$$ to stay alive." Mark Hanchett reminds me of Trevor Milton, not exactly the same but similar in certain business ways. Something stinks about Atlis and NXU similar to Nikola Motor. I could be wrong but time will tell.
So we have the new MCS Standard with finished connector. In development since 2018 with many companies and CharIN and finished last year. Then we have Tesla as member of CharIN but who knows what they will use for the Semi.... And here we see... another connector... Yeah, next battle between standards incoming, thats what we need to move forward.
Curious just how innovative Cory and Sandy think their process or current level of progress is. Not to sound harsh, but it seems like a very low-tech operation and I am left curious if that is just the point in their existence that they are at. Claiming high C-rate without stating cycle life is kind of meaningless.
Why are they not using MCS? It has all the capabilities of their connector and it's a real standard. Thats just weird. Also why is he so proud of showing a charge curve to the customer? Thats nothing new?
Kudos to your camera girl Grace. She is very smooth and doesn't hesitate to get right in there for the great shots!
Thanks! 😁
Always nice to have a Munro vid to watch on the lunch break. Thanks folks.
Holy crap, that guy had 2 gallons of coffee before Sandy and Cory showed up.
@@Omnis2 So effin excited to show off their stuff
@@Omnis2watch him at .75 playback speed. Bro was wired.
@@chrisjohnson2065 I started the video at 1.5 and had to dial it back 🤣
Fascinating video Sandy and Cory. Appreciate NXU's generous sharing their process to build and test their batteries.
9:42 The moment Sandy contemplates the handle for all handles 😆
Sandy - I appreciate you so much!
Thanks, Fred!
There are electric ferries all over the world now and they sometimes use multiple CCS1 or CCS2 cables - Ie pull the ferry up, tie off, plug in a row of 4 CCS plugs. One 3MW plug would be sweet!
1000 volts DC at 1000 amperes liguid cooled contacts i hope
I’m surprised that Sandy or Cory didn’t mention anything about NACS and changing the cable. Since Sandy raves about NACS. We’ll call them out!!
Been watching NXU for years. About the time they moved out of a garage. They put out weekly videos. This was best video I have seen yet.
When did they change from Atlis? Recognized Mark Hanchet.
@@mtbse789
Shortly after the pandemic, they went public during the worst of the EV slump.
Many reverse stock splits and a name change have happened since then.
They also dumped all plans to manufacture vehicles.
I'm still waiting for a shareholder lawsuit because of mishandling of the IPO, but I doubt it will come.
This guy is just off the set of “cocaine bear”
I was hoping to find this comment! TY
Actually Cocaine Bear 2, “METH BEAR”
Dude is a sales man.... I'm more skeptical than impressed
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one looking for his white shoes! 🇨🇦
You should always be a little skeptical but he didn’t say anything that didn’t make sense. We’ll see what happens.
"A Nxu name" got a solid giggle from me. Good job.
Sorry to say this, but US is switching from CCS to NACS. So isn’t this charging solution already outdated? Or am I missing something? 😮
Is it possible for them to adapt the NACS plug?
This may have been shot before that was announced. Regardless, the plug is just a plug. Their charging solution is more about the hardware on the other side of the cable, and the invisible software and resulting customer experience.
This plug puts out far more power than NACS is capable of. They could put a NACS on their stations for compatibility but they're focused on charging well over 1 megawatt.
@@GregHasslerACS supports 1MW (1000V at 1000A, the Tesla v4 superchargers support this)
@@GregHassler They showed two chargers. A 3MW specialty charger, and a 1MW-capable CCS charger... CCS and NACS are both "specced" to 1MW even if there are none actually deployed pushing that.
Great video. Its always fun to see Munro Live and what is comming up. I think things are ramping up fast. Really Nice that NXU really showed their company.
"Lab Coats required beyond this point" cuts to guy in t-shirt and long beard... this is not a serious research company.
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You are valuable people, for all the rest of the people, and I wish You the best!
I love when Sandy gives people that "Don't BS me" look! I can't wait to be old. LMAO
🙋♂️ THANKS SANDY,CORY AND THE MUNRO TEAM…🤗 for letting us know what’s NXU💚💚💚
I would’ve preferred that the NXU lead paid more attention to Corey too and answered the basic question of cable cooling.
I like chopped liver by the way, Icaught Corey do a forehead wrinkle or two.
The NXU logo is genius!
Glad they had the truck investors’ money to pay for it!
I'm surprised nobody brought up the MCS charging standard. The MCS standard which is mostly finalized, defines a connector rated at 1250V and 3000A, or 3.75MW. Everyone will be adopting this standard, including Tesla. Similarly, CCS1 is dead. The NACS connector already handles significantly more current than CCS (over 600A), and the 1000V version has been tested at 1000A continuously. The V4 supercharger should be able to easily exceed anything CCS1 is capable of. It's only a matter of time until other EV manufacturers adopt NACS since it's quite clear none of the CCS networks can get their act together and there are serious reliability issues. I know there are numerous other charger manufacturers that are working on multi-megawatt chargers. Tesla has even installed a few for their semis, though AFAIK not with the new MCS v3.2 connector yet. It looks like the MCS 3.2 connector has been finalized. The current debate is over which communications protocol to use.
Another nice video Munro Live team.
Nxu has the right attitude, make it happen now, do not wait. During the early days of the Covid-19 Pandemic, Ford, GM, and others seem to just roll over and accept supplies are just not available. Meanwhile, Tesla was figuring out how to use other chips to use and keeps things going. It seems companies that grow are the ones who do whatever it takes to make things happen, including making things they have never made before when needed.
These rapid charge speeds just adds more weight to the idea that battery swap stations are a waste of resources. This also means heavy duty EVs, such as the Tesla Semi will make more sense as well.
Same Atlis that had their stock drop 90%+?
Thanks for this coverage. They seem to be doing alot of interesting things
Not to be negative, but compared to Amprius, they seem too-diversified/scatterbrained.
Jack-of all Trades? Master of Some? Time will tell.
@@TamagoHeadthere's more money to be made in energy storage and smart grid tech than fast-charging EVs. IMO. Hence all they do is related and have a business case. What's the words they use again? Eco Structure? It takes a long to bring a truck to market, so this other tech can bring in some IRA money while selling much need batteries.
@@pinomastroianni9320 I totally agree! I think there’s a hydro/solar mix dam that uses solar when sunlight is available, and hydro when not is running in Tibet.
LFP seems very promising, and as investment costs go down, it becomes easier to amortize/justify Solar for home owners.
When you accidentally pop 3 ritalin extra before Munro comes for a visit
When you need a salesguy to talk about prototypes you know it's not going anywhere
"Custom solutions" ? Lol. The power modules and the CCS controller are coming from Phoenix Contact and the HVDC relays are coming from Hongfa.
Nothing really custom here, just an assembly of parts sourced elsewhere.
The CCS charger is really just about software and customer experience. Im guessing they really are only even doing that because OEMs cant build enough of them and they need to diversify away from their 3MW solution which only has niche applications.
Thank you!
You're welcome!
All these guys sound excited about their company. Like minded people can produce a great company
I didn't see Sandy or Cory getting excited and animated. Actually, they did very little talking. Might have been the pushy salesman presenter constantly patting themselves on the back. Maybe that battery production was at a lab/pre-ramp manufacturing phase and had no differentiating tech.
By their body language, they both looked uncomfortable and really had little comments at the end. NU or Atlis is pure vaporware.
@@Eric-xp1kl They kept making a big thing out of charging curves as if it was unique to them and had marketable value. The grid storage box was less than polished as it was welded steel structural girders with trex decking mounted at a 45-degree angle. Then they are handing Munro a CCS plug like it was special and they should be praising them. Munro visits everyone and the fact they weren't impressed with anything except backyard ingenuity with stuff like the Home Depot bucket couldn't be more telling. Your 100% right on the money with them being a scam it is criminal how they target unsavvy investors through social media. then change names and directives and branding completely after roughly 4-years when they didn't even have a prototype. I watched with the intention of being open-minded and changing my mind. What they showed was a cash-burning furnace acting like a research lab that had no proprietary tech being developed.
I was wondering if I was the only one getting those vibes.
@@chrisborns5972 I liked how the interviewer commented that that information was removed from competing systems. With how long it took him to look up the charging curves: it sounds like it is not put front-and-center.
The gentleman who shows Sandy and Cory round his factory demonstrates how good Munro Associates are at communication. He needs to hire Cory for a day to help him organise his presentation skills. Sandy and Cory are my favourite double act on TH-cam. Sorry I have not had time to watch the whole video. I need to get on with some work.
Agreed, also he needs to take a breath now and again. A couple of times I thought he might pass out as he didn't take a breath!
And at 1.75 it way worse 😅
Thanks for the interesting tour. and Opening The Doorway To. Understanding.
19:46 Easter Egg...
37 kWh pack he just casually shoves aside.
I have a 57 kWh pack that is literally 8 times the size of that and weighs about 704lbs.
"Please do not tap on the glass" 😆
Im guessing its just an empty box. Not an assembled battery.
No that’s a normal
Size I’d say
Feel bad for those who invested in this company... I don't think they'll be around when Megawatt charging becomes a reality. How does a company transition from an automotive manufacturer (atlis motor vehicles) to a charging system vendor/ battery R&D?? Must be burning cash like crazy.
It is likely another fraud just like Atlis. Anyone investing in them clearly has not done their research.
*It's a smart move. Like instead of mining which cost a lot of money and time, just sell the supplies for mining. You get richer that way.* *That's what these guys are doing, selling the supplies so you can charge your EVs. They'll always be a market for that.*
@@radicalrick9587 They got a bunch of money to open a mine. Then after they got all that money they said, sorry we dont actually know how to do any mining at all, but we can sell our novel mining equipment. Then they covered up the mine with a big sign that says OPENING SOON with PICTURES of what appear to be rebranded pans and buckets over the windows and no signs of them being any closer to actually having novel products, or of them manufacturing any products novel or otherwise. I cant imagine any miners being excited about products they dont know anything about being sold in a store that doesnt look like its ever going to open. Also, where did this clunky mining anology come from? I see a bunch of people using it.
Wow that's impressive
All cells are just gone to get graded they will be back next week promise
The manager sure can talk. 😅
Great video, and very informative! Thanks.
damn this company seems awesome, what an upbeat startup
Always a good day watching your videos!
We like the way you think!
He sounds like Trevor Milton, I love is energy.
He sounds like Trevor. I hate his energy. I'm hoping he's nothing like Trevor.
That's not the compliment you think it is...
CSS is a bad format. Are they going to "upgrade" to NACS? [ps. Grace: Excellent job. TY Sandy for giving her credit. Excellent episode.]
Nope, they are not
@@charlesball6519 too bad. That's the death of Nx.
He obviously didnt want to talk about the 1000amp contactor with what looked like 4/0 cables.
Love the LOGO Great design!!
Walk through a development shop interesting.
Just showed a prototype battery manufacturing lab.
Just showed a few connectors. Good they are making CCS1 simpler
No battery construction details just marketing hype
No charger construction details just marketing hype
Could the charging spike be their control loop not being tuned properly, since it shows up on every vehicle?
Is their big connectors cable cooled at 1MW at 1000V it would carry 1000Adc. As an example a 000Awg wire at 500A has a 100degC temp rise, my table does not go to 1000A
He mentioned that the charging cables were liquid cooled.
Nice video but I’m not seeing anything NXU is doing that Tesla hasn’t already been doing. My Model 3 peaks at 250 kW, which is over 1000 miles added per hour on a V3 charger. Sure they show some improvements in the CCS style charging plug but I think the Tesla V4 chargers that are already being deployed are MagaWatt chargers.
This NXU company is all talk. Throwing out jargon to confuse us, but Sandy and Cory are smarter than that
The company is about 20 minutes north of here … should check them out!
Cory;....
"and Cory", ...i gotta tell you how funny this podcast is, ..to me.
The elements at the beginning and near the end are not really relevant to the podcast or the excellent content and products being developed by NXU,
but the tiny elements and the interaction of play in Your Productions are just ,...Mint.
Listening to yer Boss castigate you for your lack of sunglasses is, well, ...its HILARIOUS.
and near the finale of the cast the "and Cory",...well, you just can't teach that in s'cool.
I am so glad Your idea, has brought to me the insights of your LEADER, who i think was way ahead of his time, combined with your efforts and expertise in your field, the production of this podcast i find immensely satisfying.
Thank you for putting forth the effort the idea to bring this Show to us.
*WOW!*
Didn't almost everyone choose to adopt the Tesla charging system last week?
That’s still for sub megawatt. MCS is still the game in town for megawatt charging afaik. Not that it’s out, but, it’s the only goal I’ve heard of.
This was likely recorded before that announcement. No doubt they are scrambling this week.
Great video, but I think the presenter guy needs more coffee.
Someone needs to reduce his charging rate
Looks like they are missing the NACS bandwagon.... If they're ready to push 1 to 3 megawatts of power to the cable and they are afraid that the NACS standard isn't/won't be up to the challenge, they should contact Tesla's engineering team to see about pushing the NACS standard forward to accommodate the next level of charging speeds ....
They have zero plans on going to NACS, because CCS is a standard and NACS is not, according to them.
@@charlesball6519 Apparently, the definition of the word standard is relative ... Or perhaps it just hasn't been standardized
Not just NACS, they're also missing the MCS bandwagon. MCS looks like they learned from the CCS1 abomination and looks like a sane connector rated at 3.75MW. Not only that, it's a standard that will be adopted by everyone, including Tesla.
CHAdeMO 3 already supports 600A, 500kW.
@@aaronwilliams1249 Looks like the Megawatt Charging System is designed for commercial vehicles like airplanes, boats, and semi trucks. It won't be used on personal vehicles.
NxU used to be Atlis trucks, I am assuming they had to change direction to be profitable
Even now, you'd hope so. I feel terrible for people who bought their stock at $20. 95% losses.
Ahhh, was wondering how they compared to other companies claiming high C rate charging... turns out they are that other company. That puts this whole video into a totally different light.
@@Omnis2I sold my stock as soon as I could. Bought the 30 shares when it was something like $3/share. Sold it after the IPO, after it dropped to about $6 or $7
Is it just me, or did they only talk about CCS? It appears we are headed to NACS.
I see lots of R & D, but how do they make money? Is it through custom batteries and charging equipment? Do they plan to make high power chargers for semi’s and ships?
Through their IPO of course!
Narrator: They don't.
Donations from gulible morons
Is it me, or does this company have Nikola vibes to it?
As in, theyre working for a lost cause? 🫣
@@Dontslaythybroski something like that
Unlike Nikola these guys have actually demonstrated charging equipment that performs at the claims they made - unlike the Nikola vaporware.
Welcome to Arizona. Supposed to be 110 in Scottsdale, Today.
wow! sounds like lots of innovation & development ! also sounds like hours of hard work! congratulations!
I hope U'r able to maintain U'r abilities! good luck! super video Team Munro!
looks like U need a couple hundred West Virginians, keeping the production high!!
I hope I’m wrong, but this 13:00 guy reminds me of Trevor Milton. Very Glib
Key point: as Mark said, the infrastructure is at least 2 years away from being able to deliver the present needs for EV charging, let alone future needs as the EV fleet expands.
With the Federal incentives to buy EVs it is logical that the government has not ensured the infrastructure needed to "fuel" the fleet is in place BEFORE the demand outstrips the supply - but then again, it is the government, and they only exist to solve problems, particularly those of their own making...
Most EV charging is done at home. The non-home charging infrastructure will develop along with the demand. They’re weren’t gas stations all over the place before everyone was buying an ICE vehicle.
And these guys are what? Another 5-10 years away from delivering out-of-date hardware? No doubt their move to charging was inspired by the Federal incentives.
... isn't that the Atlas CEO
Interesting, hope this all goes somewhere!
Based on this company's history, down the drain
Poker face from Sandy all the way through
Well I have no idea what i just watched. This is way over my knowledge base. Cory looking nice and slim keep up the running. Sandy gives me Einstein vibes a lot of the time.
Very interesting and informative
Mathew Vachaparampil is able to do a SCAN of vehicles to CAD models instead of teardowns.
Where are the sprinklers in those containers with the batteries? Sometimes innovation is a euphemism for not meeting code.
Like that submarine
Add the "Munro Effect" to price upswings on specific stocks.
That "spike" is likely due to the lower output resistance of the battery upon charge initiation but then it increases as the battery accepts more current and likely gets hotter. It seems to me that the battery pack must be designed to accept a particular optimized charge program.
This as a primary video focus not unique to their company with really no marketability was very telling they lacked depth as an organization. If I knew Munro was coming I sure wouldn't showcase CCS and a prototype Trex battery box. That product was very 4th grade and they presented it as if they were delivering them to customers.
Or a sampling of the dV/dT, to measure state of chargeI. It could be done by sampling the pack or each cell, but dv/dt gives a better picture of SOC.
During the beginning of the video, they apparently have tables on top of tables that work the same way as their Logo when flipped.
Great Interview 👍
Their stock was up over $200 on the second day of their IPO because they were promising an electric pickup.
It was up that high because it was a pump and dump.
Their stock is at 50 cents because they abandoned their promises to investors to build a truck. Something they had no experience doing and realized they weren't going to succeed doing
No, it was at 27.5. Anything higher was fake because they did a DPO, not an IPO. There were literally no shares available to sell so the pressure was up. Learn more.
Nxu, Inc. manufactures and markets battery cells and packs, megawatt charging stations, and residential and commercial battery energy storage systems in the United States.
super interesting video, but I was puzzled about the weird diamond shaped connector... From the title, I thought this would be about products in development for the Megawatt Charging System (MCS? with the triangular connector recently standardized?)
But this connector is way better. Probably doubling the cable
This is the company formerly known as Atlis Motors. Theyve had this design for years.
Kinda a burn at the end, Sandy!
Closed at 0.55 today, up 9%.
Now, maybe you guys could do a video explaining what all that meant.
You might want to go back some earlier videos or go to some other channels to get the basics. Sandy and Corey aren't ones to rehash the simple stuff
Sandy, is that investment advice? ”their stock is at $0.50 Cent you can buy some form your kids piggy bank”
Corey I’m surprised he didn’t edit that out of the video.😂🤣
Atlis was about to be delisted...hey, lets change our name...the Newly invented NU! Wait 6 months for the next change.
I have to question their in-house megawatt charging connector. Have they looked at MCS? I believe the MCS connector is smaller than their connector and it is rated for 3.75MW, 3000A, and 1250V. While it is still not finalized, it is quite far along in the process which will be finalized next year. The MCS connector is being designed by a consortium of companies, including Tesla, and from what I can see it looks like they have learned from the past mistakes of the CCS1 abomination. Their continued push for CCS1 is also a mistake. It's fairly clear that CCS1 is going to die and be replaced by NACS. The NACS connector is also capable of handling far more power. They keep talking about 200A. Tesla is already pumping over 600A through their NACS connector and there is a version rated at 1000V and they have claimed that they have tested the connector for 1000A continuously. They claim they're the only ones fully vertically integrated when Tesla has been demonstrating their integration for years. They build their own chargers and everything related to them and have by far the cheapest installation cost. It's already known that Tesla's chargers are far, far cheaper than the competition at under $50K/stall for 250KW. I don't think it will cost significantly more for them to up the output to 500KW by moving to their 1000V connector nor do I think doubling the power output of their charger will cost twice as much, and even if it does, it's still far cheaper than $500,000.
I also really need to question their claim of constant high-C charging even at high states of charge. Sure, you can do that if you don't care about frying the battery. There's more than just temperature involved in needing to reduce the charge rate in order to prevent the graphite from getting clogged up with lithium or the electrolyte breaking down. They have my BSometer pegged.
Every company now says vertically integrated
Yeah the boss is upstairs
wasn't the 2nd guy that stepped in from Atlas trucks?
I wish NU success.
A bud of mine called one day...wanted to borrow an oscilloscope..Turns out it was needed as a prop to impress potential investors...Way back in the 1970's :-)
Much cheaper than a 5-axis mill!
@@patreekotime4578 He would have borrowed that too if I had one...he was running a scam on potential investors. Finally some ticked off investors came to his home, armed, and made a citizens arrest. The ultimate law enforcement in the country are its citizens by the way. We allow all law enforcement to do their job because of convenience...mainly...and technology has taken it out of the hands of most citizens...
Sandy, the best video! I know nothing about this technology, but it gives me hope. I'd still like to see where the power is generated. You know, way back at the start. What are they doing to handle all the new cars and trucks that are coming.
Mark peaked from the start and did not tail off at all
Yes he is running at 200kW all the time
upvoted!
Hook this Lab Experiment to an 800V Porsche Taycan and see how fast it charges. Spoiler alert: not so fast. One of the first recalls was to drastically reduce the initially clamed charging of the Taycan to keep the life of the batteries somewhat reasonable. There is an inverse relationship of the rate of charge and number of charges / useful life of the battery. That's why, as he accidently acknowledged, the vehicles have the "Charger" control so the vehicle manufacturers can control the rate of charge to achieve reasonable life of the battery.
And its exactly why I doubt their claims of being able to charge at 3MW at any point in the state of charge with their (not finalized chemisty??) batteries. He seems to be saying that cooling is the only trick... and sure, maybe that prevents the battery from blowing up while charging it... but absolutely no mention or even aknowledgement of the life-span of their cells with repeated 3MW charges. Im very skeptical.
@@patreekotime4578 The best cooling for automotive batteries is Tesla's and they have said many times that faster charging is possible, but at the expense of life. They have enough data to give an 8 year 100,000 mi+ warranty now. Who else has this? This whole video is NXU looking for $$$ to stay alive.
@@shazam6274 "This whole video is NXU looking for $$$ to stay alive." Mark Hanchett reminds me of Trevor Milton, not exactly the same but similar in certain business ways. Something stinks about Atlis and NXU similar to Nikola Motor. I could be wrong but time will tell.
@@bwoods22wf Well, he did shove that battery out of the way, but it stopped because the floor did not have enough slope. 😂
Why was my bullshit detector going off during this entire video?
I think it is an engineer's playground. Not a manufacturing company. They need a CEO who can fire the engineers and launch a product.
So we have the new MCS Standard with finished connector. In development since 2018 with many companies and CharIN and finished last year. Then we have Tesla as member of CharIN but who knows what they will use for the Semi.... And here we see... another connector... Yeah, next battle between standards incoming, thats what we need to move forward.
Curious just how innovative Cory and Sandy think their process or current level of progress is. Not to sound harsh, but it seems like a very low-tech operation and I am left curious if that is just the point in their existence that they are at. Claiming high C-rate without stating cycle life is kind of meaningless.
electrifying
Dam you guys where here in Phx area bummer.
Looks like the USA could use a domestic transformer manufacturing company or 5.
At 1 cent profit per KWH it will take a while to pay off that $400K box, but who's counting?
"Yeah, but our cost is nowhere near that! Wink wink!" - the guy standing in front of cooling system with a home depot bucket as an integral part.
Fascinating. Best of luck to them.
I knew I've seen this before...Kyle was here!
Why are they not using MCS? It has all the capabilities of their connector and it's a real standard. Thats just weird. Also why is he so proud of showing a charge curve to the customer? Thats nothing new?
Because this is the same plug they developed years ago and showed off when they were Atlis.
9:12 is this contactor made in China?
This is so fun, what a charismatic CEO :)
Fine line between charismatic and bullshitter.
5:00 The number of shelves could be doubled. A lot of the wires should be organized and tied.
What about NACS? And he seems to be on some type of speed and is looking very much like he is selling to investors.
I really hate this company for how they screwed over all the people who invested in them for Atlis.
Its 2023 and we're discussion charge curves, seams more appropriate for a 2013 discussion and yet here we are. progress is slow.