I think something that I feel gets overlooked in this film is the fact the ships in Elysium are already stocked with med bays meaning they could of already helped or solved the issues at hand, possibly eluding to Elysium was probably a station designed as a medical institute but probably got monetised when shit hit the fan led to people that had money fleeing to it.
furthermore: they didnt just have the ships at the ready. they had a whole protocol with Droids EXACTLY for that Project. it would have been as simple as opening your Browser to do this.
Fun fact about this movie. Eminem was originally asked to play the lead role. The reason why he ended up turning it down, was because the film couldn't be filmed in Detroit. So he asked Matt Damon if he wanted the role instead. Matt was the second choice
@@numerum_bestia Yes, it is acting. Hell, just look at either of the SPACE JAM movies to see people who don't have any great acting talent. Conversely, Eminem acted very well in 8 MILE and your snark doesn't change that.
The CGI on the droids still holds up to this day. I remember watching this in theaters and for a split second thinking that the droids had to be practical effects.
@@SirToaster9330 bit over 8 years ago. Not as drastic as the previous 8 years but while the bare minimum for acceptable looking VFX hasn't raised that much, it's really impressive that this movie looks very good even by today's standards.
Yessss Elysium is so underrated. So many people didn’t like it cause they expected District 10 or something or else they hated the political messages (it’s Blomkamp, what were you expecting?)
@@AlexParkerEmcee how is it pretentious? it’s just the truth. many people either expected a direct sequel or something really similar to district 9, or else they were right wing people who disagreed with the film “glorifying” illegal immigration. if i had said “people simply didn’t understand the movie line me!” then it could be pretentious. tf you on about
@@ryanbradford6227 one glance at your subscriptions i can tell why you don’t know what pretentious means, and why you don’t like the political commentary in elysium
As a South African, having an actual South African actor play a character from the country is always a win. American actors always butcher the accent 😬. Also quick translation of the Afrikaans words: Lekker: nice, or good Boet: brother, bro, usually said to a friend Ja: yes (we say this alot😅😂) it sounds like yaa
I lowkey really like this movie. The cyberpunk style it has is really cool and the exosuits are a really cool concept. And yes please EGA Johny Mnemonic!
I am not sure if you have, but The Surge is a Souls-like video game series, which has those suits, and one of the most daunting opening cutscenes. People who have played know EXACTLY what I am talking about. But the games are good, while I suck at those style of games, I enjoyed The Surge 1... for what I played of it.
19:20 Synthetic insulin seems like a pretty good modern day example of this. Cheap to produce, but when you control all the supply what's the point in selling at close to cost :D
The worst part of this movie is that in real life, factory workers wouldnt try to pull the machine apart to try and help him. Factory work effectivly lobotomises its workers and i have seen videos where they simply pull the body out of the way, it gets cleaned up and an hour later they go back to work. You might think this is a dystopian future. This is already happening in 3rd world contries.
Every day I read the news, I just realise we're rapidly hurtling closer and closer to a real cyberpunk dystopia and this movie really kinda underlines just how much that's true. I remember seeing this back in 2013 and loving it but now it definitely hits different.
i remember watching this on streaming, right after getting out of the hospital from appendix surgery, still hopping on painkillers and various meds that muddled my mind to easier relaxation. it was the first time my family saw me crying to any film in near a decade.
Elysium was more than just the Greek version of the after-life. It was the paradise of the after-life. Similar to heaven vs hell or purgatory. So it's really even more of a win.
@@cyber8697 Correct. and in both usually involved dying valiantly in a fight. So it could be argued Max went to Elysium, died, then went to Elysium again
You could argue that Valhalla wasn't heaven, simply a stay of execution, since the entire point of Valhalla is that it serves as the bulwark of the Asgard before Ragnarok begins. Yes, you get to eat, fight, drink, and ogle the valkyries, but it's not until the end of time that you get to do so.
@@edoardoprevelato6577 Greek _philosophers_ held themselves in great esteem. Socrates was ridiculed in front of Athenes by a play writer, which earned said Play writer the andmger of his students
@@chrisferguson1911 yup, it was his first movie But i don't mean a movie about Aliens, i mean his script for Alien 5, that would be set after Aliens and ignore Alien 3 and Resurrection
It's always nice seeing people who actually understand that, realistically, governments and companies waste a ton of money avoiding problems than they would've used to actually fix it. Maybe avoiding it once or twice saved them money compared to fixing it immediately, but the problem keeps getting worse and they keep spending so much money to avoid it than it surpassed the cost of just fixing it.
A prime example is all the money they spend on anti-homeless architecture like half benches or spikes under overpasses, they could put that money towards giving homeless people another shelter
@@DanWMiller Or San Francisco's plan to install thousands of $20K trash cans because 'homeless people are rooting through them looking for drugs and recyclables'. They'd rather spend literal millions of dollars making technologically sophisticated refuse bins (that would undoubtedly get vandalized and broken or break down on the regular), than they would actually put that money towards solving the root of the problem.
@@DanWMiller that aint so easy. You need place to build those houses. You will find it mostly far far on outskirts of cities. so it would be basically forcefull relocation. And it's bad to say it, but many homeless people put themselves in this position. They would likely act like those winners of lotteries who suddenly got milion or couple of milions and in few years get back to even worse then what they started with. And then there are people like gypsies who completley devastate social houses they get, sell everything they can, even tiles from walls, and then demand more social money. sad fact is, thet is our human condition. If we magically one day gave everyone a home and work in 10 years we would be back to places that have huge poverty.
@@DanWMiller but then there would be no way to make money for the politicians if there are no more homeless to pretend to throw money at. There was that one mayor who went undercover and was so horrified how his attempt to help the homeless was accused that he fired everyone from top to bottom because it was that mishandled
I watched this film as a kid, and it stuck with me. The gore I forgot. The names I forgot. But the story? The meanings? I remember those very well. We're a lot closer to Elysium now than when I first watched it.
The fact that you've seen Hardcore Henry , is wonderful. Please do an EGA on it. One of the most unique action films in a long way. Plus Sharlto Copley is always a win.
I don't think you can full heartedly say you understood this movie and NOT talk about the societal implications in the world we live in. Beautiful dissection man!
It's amazing that you did this movie and then didn't even try to hide the correlations with our current political climate. Some people would have ignored them or just not mentioned them but you made it a point to talk about them. it's those small actions of not ignoring our own issues and even educating certain people (including me) on real-world political problems that people see every day. Loved this video and I please ask you to never stop speaking your mind!
I don't need political nuance from someone who does it so poorly. If you think the wealth gap in capitalist countries like America is bad then try a socialist's country. Ten times as bad and evil as literally anything here. By the way, the rich assholes doing everything they can to increase the gap in wealth here in the states? The same assholes pushing this channel's progressive politics. "Eat the rich" is literally said by the party for the rich. I hate when this channel isn't just about good movies.
@@ephemispriest8069 "I dont need political nuance" "everything is worse in socialism" "this channel got political because of rich people, who want people to call out their bullshit apparently" You could skip the paragraph of contradicting whining by just saying you want to be comfortably ignorant and act like this is the best coutry ever you know. Also throw out the part about pretending everyone who opposes your politics are the same thing they oppose, which you say isnt bad right before saying is a problem caused by your political opponents, which is stupid.
Well, human rights ARE inherently political, always have been. The sooner we admit that things that affect large amounts of people are always political (and that it is a good thing to be political about these matters), the sooner we can get rid of politicians that feed off of apolitical agendas and only do us damage. Collective matters are always political.
@@mariaah3073 The point is that they shouldn't be political in the sense that human rights matter more than anything else, politics can be discussed, human rights should not be discussed, they should be assured.
My favourite part of this video was Lee churning out nothing but good takes about crippling inequality while also marvelling at samarai exo-suit fights... Actually wait that's the whole video huh.
I'm SO happy that you're talking positively about this movie. I've loved this film ever since it dropped in cinemas. FAR more than the masses at large sadly. And far more than either Chappie or District 9. Mostly because I hate stories following terrible, unredeemable people. And both of those movies followed TERRIBLE people. You can actually root for and sympathize with the central character of Elysium. Not to mention that the visuals are top notch as is the case with the other films in Blomkamp's central sci-fi movies. This is by far, and without hyperbole, one of the most underrated sci-fi flicks out in the wild.
I know Sharlto Copley is from South Africa and not Russian, but he would make an amazing Kraven The Hunter...but they went with Aaron Taylor Johnson for some reason
@@fistbumpstudioz4548 Oh damn you've seen the movie? How's 2023?? :D Real talk: I was hoping this kind of mentality would've been finished after Heath Ledger's Joker. Hell people also said the same with RDJ's Tony Stark casting and Hugh Jackman's Wolverine casting. Just stop being prejudice and reserve your opinion until you've seen their actual performance and where it goes. Twonk.
I really, REALLY like Elysium. Its a great sci-fi flick if you just want to disengage brain and watch a movie, but has so many layers that you can get so much out of it if you want a super intelligent film, and every performance is top notch with a fantastic aesthetic. Definitely underappreciated.
"Do we need an EGA Johnny Mnemonic?" Yes. Emphatically yes. And thanks for drawing the parallels between the film and current events. It's refreshing to have even the more moderate-presenting TH-camrs addressing something as objectively wrong, not just an opinion.
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Blomkamp's work was the first CGI that looked indistinguishable from reality to me. Up until District 9, things looked great, but could never leave me wondering whether or not what I am looking at is a prop or something inserted digitally.
Man there's a video where one of the district 9 compositors takes you through their Nuke setup and its so so good. Not just great cgi, but fantastic choices in general. They had so much control over the renders just in compositing you can really see what it takes to get that next step.
If you want more of Sharlto Copley, do EGA The A-Team. He does a fantastic job as "Howling Mad" Murdock. This is also my daily reminder that I'm still waiting for EGA Speed Racer.
I legit saw this movie couple of hours ago and searched it on TH-cam for other opinions I just noticed the upload date when you pointed it out Good coincidence
A quick search seems to indicate you’ve never done Gattaca. Now that is a film that seemed like pure sci-fi when it was made and is now within the realm of possibility in very short order. Also- it’s just a stunning film.
I’m super disappointed about how you didn’t talk much about the INCREDIBLE soundtrack. I mean seriously, I’ll love Hanz zimmers work till I die, but this is a serious contender!
This video was awesome! I only watched Elysium once, when it was released, and as a brazilian it just became "that one sci-fi movie with Wagner Moura" in my memory. Great to see it through your eyes. And brilliant commentary. You're amazing, Lee. A true gem.
Phenomenal episode, bright and shining example of how you can in fact address the horrible things about reality that need to be changed, the ways you can change them, and the joy and hope that comes with that full cognizance
This was one of my first action movies back when I was about 14. I was traumatized with the bodies exploding but I can't help but be amazed by the CGI of Elysium, the robot bodyguards and that final fight setting with Kruger. So glad you covered this!
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When you establish that anyone can be brought back from the dead even if their heads are blown off, it sort of gets rid of the dramatic stakes. Like when Kruger stabbed his boss, she could literally just be revived so that scene was robbed of its dramatic potential.
That final scene with all the supertech medbays and doctor robots being shuttled to the Earth's surface and deployed really hits the feels. Those people, they don't know what's going on, they don't know why these things are happening, it's like a freaking miracle. It's like angels have come down from Heaven to heal them completely out of the blue, and it really has that sort of a feel to it.
But someone who makes $35000 and has a $60,000 house is technically part of the 10% of the world. So would you ask those people to give? Many countries have very wealthy people as well what about them? Should we try to control their wealth to give to others?
Wealth inequality in the US lmao, you have no idea how good the US has it compared to so many other countries. Would you rather everyone starve under mass socialism? Then at least we'd be equal 🤷♂️
@@cabnbeeschurgr Maybe they should look for some discounted organs from China if they're worried about medical costs so badly. That'll give em the moral high ground!
To explain, Elysium isn't the sole greek afterlife but started as an afterlife for those favored by the gods before becoming a general "good person" afterlife.
Blomkamp (and his team) are so incredible at vfx. There's a great video of one of the compositors for district 9 talking about all the unique tech they had made for Nuke just to get it as perfect as possible. "district 9 compositor nuke" should bring it up.
Kinda random fun fact: the toilet became common use in the 1800s, but it was actually invented in the 1500s by a poet. This particular poet was critical of the English government at the time, so his idea was suppressed by Queen Elizabeth the first, but she took the blueprints and had one made for herself and just cept it to herself. So the thing about rich people hording technology to themselves is a very real thing.
Surprised you didn't touch on Ryan Amon's score. The main Elysium theme that tends to play whenever focusing on the station is superb, and there are great standouts like Fire Up the Shuttle, You Have No Idea, and so on.
I have been watching this channel for a long time and every video is always a joy to watch. Your outlook on art and cinema has really changed my own outlook to giving more movies a chance when I might now have otherwise. Keep it up!
The Exo-suit logo @ 13:12 fooled me. I thought it was a "Gerber knives" brand placement until I went back and looked. I suppose it still could be since this takes place in the future.
tbf, eating the rich would go a long way to solving world hunger. just saying... just don't eat the brains, that gets you kuru. which would help with the overpopulation problem...
Anyone who parrots that line is a fucking idiot being led around BY THE RICH. Fortify some more elections so you can all be put out of business while politicians and big companies profit.
Love the work you do brother. Thanks for a great positive attitude even when talking about gritty subjects no one wants to, even if it’s just a reflection message from a sci-fi movie.
He said it? Haha. But we Snyder cut fans haven't had a great time since the movie released. Been waiting for Lee here to bring some light into our dark timelines. So we can be a little mean at times
I don't normally comment on your vids even though I've been watching for like 3 years now. I thought your political commentary was well written and expressed eloquently. I generally watch your vids to feed my optimism, but I appreciate your willingness to express your opinions openly. I think that you approached the issue with respect and level-headedness, a quality that is often lacking in these kinds of tense discussions. I am a firm believer in the idea that change comes from having a civil, open conversation, with the intent to promote equality and equity. You make the internet a little bit of a brighter place, and I just wanted to say thanks for that.
I like how in the cinamesins video they said that the design of the space station was ”unneccesesary” but they also say in this video that its ”realistic and functional”
I'm all for a EGA Johnny Mnenomic, but I'd love an EGA Hardcore Henry as well. I saw it in the cinema and there was grandmothers laughing their heads off.
Shartlo Copley killed the accent. I was astonished how hard he nailed it when I first watched it, stole every scene. Really liked that he added the south African slang in his lines. He really sounds like he comes from here and it made my year the first time I watched it, really sounds like he comes from a certain place in South africa
One of the most underrated sci-fi movies from the last few decades, they really did this movie dirty by underselling it. Neil Blomkamp should be doing more things.
Man I'm glad you cover this, it's always made me uncomfortable but that's the point. Being Mexican I can relate to the "ilegal people" dieing for the chance of saving their children's lives or being denied basic human right for not being from a certain class. Great video as always. Thank you.
Word of God: The citizens of Elysium are Older Than They Look. A Freeze-Frame Bonus says that Carlyle is born in 2010, making him 144 years old. Jodie Foster says that Delacourt is 108.
As a nerd, I would watch an entire exposition of this. Human cell division stops at 125 years, making that effectively our maximum age (ish). How they overcame the aging process of cell division with some Star Trek level dialogue would be fun. Solving the "age" epidemic we have would go a long way in supporting Interstellar travel!
The whole "space colony spins to create gravity via centrifugal force" concept is, at the very least, 40-ish years old by this point. Space Odyssey did it and the Gundam franchise have been doing it since it started in 79.
Super appreciate the recognition of the grim relation of this movie to reality. Far too many people will just over look it because they can't see it being possible... because they choose to close their eyes, or just don't see the path from our point a to the point b that Elysium represents.
Amazing review. The casually brutal and personal killing in this movie still sticks with me even though I watched it years ago. Almost scarier to see how little human life is worth rather than how unequal that society is.
I’d like to submit my vote for Johnny Mnemonic, I’d also just like to say that I’d love to hear what you have to say about the Snyder cut Leigh, I really respect your opinion on movies
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I wish I could "like" this video more than once. Thank you so much for this, Lee, I feel like it was somehow too short, I love hearing people outside of my usual political youtube talking about human rights, equality, and societal problems that aren't fixed just because of people making money off them
Kinda like how BLM leaders bought mansions? Or that Climate alarmists have ocean front property? Or maybe how trans activists are accusing gay people of transphobia? Zealots are just as bad as grifters.
@@JonGreen91 Without sources/references you might as well be presenting a strawman argument here. @Cabnbeeschugr When the movie being discussed is inherently political, I don't see how it does justice to the film to ignore or skirt around those issues?
I remember seing this movie for the first time. It does not hide away the fact that it's about class war. Elysium makes it slightly more litteral imo by making the station's forces act like a '' realistic'' (for the standard amount of displacement of this movie) military. But if I say that the movie is worse than reality, people will find me some counter examples, and I don' t wish to be depressed by this
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Honestly the suicide squad wasn't that good, Its an action movie with amazing cgi without an actual story Also the villain wasn't good. But its just my opinion lol
You named dropped it! You named dropped it and we've GOTTA get EGW Hardcore Henry and we will... be more than happy to wait for it because I'm sure you've got a schedule planned for the next 10 videos or so. But we will be waiting!
Neil Blomkamp films are always prescient and heavy, and that's what make them so good. What's sad is I always thought that the Elysium colony is the closest we're ever going to get to seeing his theatrical version of Halo..
Dude the "corporations backing a coup!? thats bananas" killed me.
Chiquita bananas, that is. The guy knows his history. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company
Someone watched Sam o' Nella
@@dungeon_delvers COMMIE !!!
I think something that I feel gets overlooked in this film is the fact the ships in Elysium are already stocked with med bays meaning they could of already helped or solved the issues at hand, possibly eluding to Elysium was probably a station designed as a medical institute but probably got monetised when shit hit the fan led to people that had money fleeing to it.
Privatization
+ infinite sins.
furthermore: they didnt just have the ships at the ready. they had a whole protocol with Droids EXACTLY for that Project. it would have been as simple as opening your Browser to do this.
@@mr.whocares8787 Furthermore supporting the theory that Elysium was probably a orbital medical facility at first but got cash grabbed.
That would also be a reason why Elysium has few to no weapon systems. It was supposed to be a hospital, not a castle.
Why don't we provide Healthcare and regular feeding to wild animals?
Fun fact about this movie. Eminem was originally asked to play the lead role. The reason why he ended up turning it down, was because the film couldn't be filmed in Detroit. So he asked Matt Damon if he wanted the role instead. Matt was the second choice
I find the thought of Eminem being an actor highly amusing.
@@Voltaic_Fire Honestly, he did pretty good in 8 Mile. I kinda want to see what he would have done for this role tho lol
@@KCGauvreau But wasn’t he kind of playing himself in 8 mile? Can you really call that acting?
@@numerum_bestia Yes, it is acting. Hell, just look at either of the SPACE JAM movies to see people who don't have any great acting talent.
Conversely, Eminem acted very well in 8 MILE and your snark doesn't change that.
@@numerum_bestia It doesn't sound like acting
The CGI on the droids still holds up to this day. I remember watching this in theaters and for a split second thinking that the droids had to be practical effects.
I don’t recall this movie is that old
@@SirToaster9330 bit over 8 years ago. Not as drastic as the previous 8 years but while the bare minimum for acceptable looking VFX hasn't raised that much, it's really impressive that this movie looks very good even by today's standards.
Rock and Stone
Chappi has fears
We need an Everything Great About Rango
Definitely an underrated movie
Saw it in theaters
Did he already do one for Owls of Ga'hool?
what about matrix 1?
yes absolutely.
@@Machtyn yeeees why is nobody talking about that movie?
Yessss Elysium is so underrated. So many people didn’t like it cause they expected District 10 or something or else they hated the political messages (it’s Blomkamp, what were you expecting?)
this comment is so pretentious
@@AlexParkerEmcee how is it pretentious? it’s just the truth. many people either expected a direct sequel or something really similar to district 9, or else they were right wing people who disagreed with the film “glorifying” illegal immigration. if i had said “people simply didn’t understand the movie line me!” then it could be pretentious. tf you on about
@@WTDProductions no trust me it’s pretentious
@@ryanbradford6227 one glance at your subscriptions i can tell why you don’t know what pretentious means, and why you don’t like the political commentary in elysium
@@ryanbradford6227 nothing pretentious here except you pretending that other people are because of your inability to argue their points
As a South African, having an actual South African actor play a character from the country is always a win. American actors always butcher the accent 😬.
Also quick translation of the Afrikaans words:
Lekker: nice, or good
Boet: brother, bro, usually said to a friend
Ja: yes (we say this alot😅😂) it sounds like yaa
South Africa seems like an incredible country.
German influenced
You missed “kak” 😂
@@JTM610 Dutch actually. Pick up a history book please.
@@kraay89 elaborate
I lowkey really like this movie. The cyberpunk style it has is really cool and the exosuits are a really cool concept. And yes please EGA Johny Mnemonic!
I am not sure if you have, but The Surge is a Souls-like video game series, which has those suits, and one of the most daunting opening cutscenes. People who have played know EXACTLY what I am talking about. But the games are good, while I suck at those style of games, I enjoyed The Surge 1... for what I played of it.
We're still a ways' away from small-scale exoskeletons like the ones in the movie, but we're pretty close to chunkier ones.
“Magic med bays wouldnt be kept for the rich.” Looks at insulin that costs more than rent for people living in seattle.
Exactly. My mind immediately went to the price of insulin, too.
Part of that is government regulation driving up costs for both insulin and housing.
God am I glad of living on europe
Insulin is the result of a LACK of a free market. Specifically through "patents" and "copyright".
@@Ze_N00B which are also by-products of capitalism.
19:20 Synthetic insulin seems like a pretty good modern day example of this. Cheap to produce, but when you control all the supply what's the point in selling at close to cost :D
The worst part of this movie is that in real life, factory workers wouldnt try to pull the machine apart to try and help him.
Factory work effectivly lobotomises its workers and i have seen videos where they simply pull the body out of the way, it gets cleaned up and an hour later they go back to work.
You might think this is a dystopian future. This is already happening in 3rd world contries.
Jesus Christ that's sad.
We are borderline there now in the southern states of America. People dying and losing limbs in factories down there, but no unions!
@@JoshuaTootell but unions are bad, I know because the big companies tell me they're bad.
Every day I read the news, I just realise we're rapidly hurtling closer and closer to a real cyberpunk dystopia and this movie really kinda underlines just how much that's true. I remember seeing this back in 2013 and loving it but now it definitely hits different.
Hurtling towards? We are there for quite a while now.
i remember watching this on streaming, right after getting out of the hospital from appendix surgery, still hopping on painkillers and various meds that muddled my mind to easier relaxation.
it was the first time my family saw me crying to any film in near a decade.
Elysium was more than just the Greek version of the after-life. It was the paradise of the after-life. Similar to heaven vs hell or purgatory. So it's really even more of a win.
Yeah, a lot of cultures, like Norse, have that special afterlife for the chosen special few instead of the regular afterlife in Hel.
@@tiacho2893 "Valhalla", I believe it was called?
@@cyber8697 Correct. and in both usually involved dying valiantly in a fight. So it could be argued Max went to Elysium, died, then went to Elysium again
You could argue that Valhalla wasn't heaven, simply a stay of execution, since the entire point of Valhalla is that it serves as the bulwark of the Asgard before Ragnarok begins.
Yes, you get to eat, fight, drink, and ogle the valkyries, but it's not until the end of time that you get to do so.
Correction, Elysium is the "nice" part of the larger Underworld, reserved to philosophers, kids and heroes
I thought this too
Huh.
If I recall correctly from my days as a Philosophy major, it’s mostly philosophers who say that philosophers go to Elysium
@@Gilamath. greeks held thinkers in great esteem
@@edoardoprevelato6577 Greek _philosophers_ held themselves in great esteem. Socrates was ridiculed in front of Athenes by a play writer, which earned said Play writer the andmger of his students
The aesthetics of this movie really shows how good Neil Bloomkap would be directing an Alien film
Didn't Bloomkap have something to do with District 9?
You got me thinking about a Alien/Aliens level new film
@@chrisferguson1911 yup, it was his first movie
But i don't mean a movie about Aliens, i mean his script for Alien 5, that would be set after Aliens and ignore Alien 3 and Resurrection
@@wattsnottaken1 what do you mean ?
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 Yeah, just found out about that. So yes, I believe he would do the Alien series justice.
It's always nice seeing people who actually understand that, realistically, governments and companies waste a ton of money avoiding problems than they would've used to actually fix it.
Maybe avoiding it once or twice saved them money compared to fixing it immediately, but the problem keeps getting worse and they keep spending so much money to avoid it than it surpassed the cost of just fixing it.
A prime example is all the money they spend on anti-homeless architecture like half benches or spikes under overpasses, they could put that money towards giving homeless people another shelter
@@DanWMiller Or San Francisco's plan to install thousands of $20K trash cans because 'homeless people are rooting through them looking for drugs and recyclables'. They'd rather spend literal millions of dollars making technologically sophisticated refuse bins (that would undoubtedly get vandalized and broken or break down on the regular), than they would actually put that money towards solving the root of the problem.
@@DanWMiller that aint so easy. You need place to build those houses. You will find it mostly far far on outskirts of cities. so it would be basically forcefull relocation. And it's bad to say it, but many homeless people put themselves in this position. They would likely act like those winners of lotteries who suddenly got milion or couple of milions and in few years get back to even worse then what they started with.
And then there are people like gypsies who completley devastate social houses they get, sell everything they can, even tiles from walls, and then demand more social money.
sad fact is, thet is our human condition. If we magically one day gave everyone a home and work in 10 years we would be back to places that have huge poverty.
The cruelty is the point.
@@DanWMiller but then there would be no way to make money for the politicians if there are no more homeless to pretend to throw money at.
There was that one mayor who went undercover and was so horrified how his attempt to help the homeless was accused that he fired everyone from top to bottom because it was that mishandled
I watched this film as a kid, and it stuck with me. The gore I forgot. The names I forgot. But the story? The meanings? I remember those very well.
We're a lot closer to Elysium now than when I first watched it.
"Do we need an EGA Johnny Mnemonic?"
YES! YES! YES!
Also yes
Yes, please.
Yes. This. 100% this.
GOD YES!!!
Plzplzplz 🙏
“Maybe it’s time to get out the voting ballots, I mean guillotines, I mean eaTHERICH-!”
I vibe with this.
The fact that you've seen Hardcore Henry , is wonderful. Please do an EGA on it. One of the most unique action films in a long way.
Plus Sharlto Copley is always a win.
I agree with this 100%. One of my absolutely favorite movies just because it is incredibly unique.
Such a good movie :)
@@jebediah_primm4855 yes
"If you can hear them, but you can't see them, you can probably grenade them."
[BANG!]
"Disgusting."
Such a great movie. I'd love to see how many technical wins are in Hardcore 😃
I don't think you can full heartedly say you understood this movie and NOT talk about the societal implications in the world we live in. Beautiful dissection man!
"Dad jokes its why you're here"
I did not expect to be called out this morning
It's amazing that you did this movie and then didn't even try to hide the correlations with our current political climate. Some people would have ignored them or just not mentioned them but you made it a point to talk about them. it's those small actions of not ignoring our own issues and even educating certain people (including me) on real-world political problems that people see every day. Loved this video and I please ask you to never stop speaking your mind!
I don't need political nuance from someone who does it so poorly. If you think the wealth gap in capitalist countries like America is bad then try a socialist's country. Ten times as bad and evil as literally anything here. By the way, the rich assholes doing everything they can to increase the gap in wealth here in the states? The same assholes pushing this channel's progressive politics. "Eat the rich" is literally said by the party for the rich.
I hate when this channel isn't just about good movies.
@@ephemispriest8069 What insane wealth gaps in socialist countries can you name? And how do they compare with capitalist wealth inequality?
I really love that about this channel. It wasn't the first time. Hopefully it won't be the last.
I dont know how someone could honestly review a movie like this and NOT talk about those correlations, theyre literally the point of the genre.
@@ephemispriest8069 "I dont need political nuance"
"everything is worse in socialism"
"this channel got political because of rich people, who want people to call out their bullshit apparently"
You could skip the paragraph of contradicting whining by just saying you want to be comfortably ignorant and act like this is the best coutry ever you know. Also throw out the part about pretending everyone who opposes your politics are the same thing they oppose, which you say isnt bad right before saying is a problem caused by your political opponents, which is stupid.
When human rights are considered "Politics." Keep talking about this stuff my friend, that's how you start convincing people.
Like the right to defend yourself and others and the right to choose for yourself.
Well, human rights ARE inherently political, always have been. The sooner we admit that things that affect large amounts of people are always political (and that it is a good thing to be political about these matters), the sooner we can get rid of politicians that feed off of apolitical agendas and only do us damage. Collective matters are always political.
@@mariaah3073 The point is that they shouldn't be political in the sense that human rights matter more than anything else, politics can be discussed, human rights should not be discussed, they should be assured.
@@dakelsmak there's always weirdos like you to be the shitty passive-aggressive contrarians
@@mariaah3073 yeah also by definition rights are political
Very cool to slowly see Lee become radicalized over time. Best part of this series. Consume enough art and it’ll pull you leftwards. Love to see it.
My favourite part of this video was Lee churning out nothing but good takes about crippling inequality while also marvelling at samarai exo-suit fights... Actually wait that's the whole video huh.
Just found him a few hours ago and have been binging and now I see this and he's super based!
I'm SO happy that you're talking positively about this movie. I've loved this film ever since it dropped in cinemas. FAR more than the masses at large sadly. And far more than either Chappie or District 9. Mostly because I hate stories following terrible, unredeemable people. And both of those movies followed TERRIBLE people. You can actually root for and sympathize with the central character of Elysium. Not to mention that the visuals are top notch as is the case with the other films in Blomkamp's central sci-fi movies. This is by far, and without hyperbole, one of the most underrated sci-fi flicks out in the wild.
I know Sharlto Copley is from South Africa and not Russian, but he would make an amazing Kraven The Hunter...but they went with Aaron Taylor Johnson for some reason
Don't watch many movies? Aaron Taylor Johnson is a great actor!
@@PrinceIsot nobody’s denying that, but there are plenty of actors more fit for that role
@@fistbumpstudioz4548 ok
Joe Manganiello would be a great Kraven!
@@fistbumpstudioz4548 Oh damn you've seen the movie? How's 2023?? :D
Real talk: I was hoping this kind of mentality would've been finished after Heath Ledger's Joker. Hell people also said the same with RDJ's Tony Stark casting and Hugh Jackman's Wolverine casting. Just stop being prejudice and reserve your opinion until you've seen their actual performance and where it goes. Twonk.
I really, REALLY like Elysium. Its a great sci-fi flick if you just want to disengage brain and watch a movie, but has so many layers that you can get so much out of it if you want a super intelligent film, and every performance is top notch with a fantastic aesthetic. Definitely underappreciated.
the fact that i know what ''Scotty doesn't know'' means that i had a crazy childhoot and i'm proud
Mi scusi
@@cginsane22 mi scusi 😈
He did her on his birthday
My robo balls. Error Error Error
SO DON"T TELL SCOTTY! :))
"Do we need an EGA Johnny Mnemonic?"
Yes. Emphatically yes.
And thanks for drawing the parallels between the film and current events. It's refreshing to have even the more moderate-presenting TH-camrs addressing something as objectively wrong, not just an opinion.
I second this!!
Everything Great About The Prince of Egypt would be quite legendary.
Better than Ridley Scott’s exodus
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@@starwarsprequelsandsequels7582 not a high bar to clear
@@michaelcubed what do you mean ?
I agree but I doubt he’d be bold enough to do it
Blomkamp's work was the first CGI that looked indistinguishable from reality to me. Up until District 9, things looked great, but could never leave me wondering whether or not what I am looking at is a prop or something inserted digitally.
Man there's a video where one of the district 9 compositors takes you through their Nuke setup and its so so good. Not just great cgi, but fantastic choices in general. They had so much control over the renders just in compositing you can really see what it takes to get that next step.
If you want more of Sharlto Copley, do EGA The A-Team. He does a fantastic job as "Howling Mad" Murdock.
This is also my daily reminder that I'm still waiting for EGA Speed Racer.
I legit saw this movie couple of hours ago and searched it on TH-cam for other opinions
I just noticed the upload date when you pointed it out
Good coincidence
Damn, this movie has aged really well.
Good for the movie, bad for us.
A quick search seems to indicate you’ve never done Gattaca. Now that is a film that seemed like pure sci-fi when it was made and is now within the realm of possibility in very short order. Also- it’s just a stunning film.
I’m super disappointed about how you didn’t talk much about the INCREDIBLE soundtrack. I mean seriously, I’ll love Hanz zimmers work till I die, but this is a serious contender!
This video was awesome! I only watched Elysium once, when it was released, and as a brazilian it just became "that one sci-fi movie with Wagner Moura" in my memory. Great to see it through your eyes.
And brilliant commentary. You're amazing, Lee. A true gem.
Phenomenal episode, bright and shining example of how you can in fact address the horrible things about reality that need to be changed, the ways you can change them, and the joy and hope that comes with that full cognizance
This was one of my first action movies back when I was about 14. I was traumatized with the bodies exploding but I can't help but be amazed by the CGI of Elysium, the robot bodyguards and that final fight setting with Kruger. So glad you covered this!
It’s not a bad movie but I feel like it could’ve been so much more with some changes.
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I agree, still love it though.
When you establish that anyone can be brought back from the dead even if their heads are blown off, it sort of gets rid of the dramatic stakes. Like when Kruger stabbed his boss, she could literally just be revived so that scene was robbed of its dramatic potential.
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That final scene with all the supertech medbays and doctor robots being shuttled to the Earth's surface and deployed really hits the feels. Those people, they don't know what's going on, they don't know why these things are happening, it's like a freaking miracle. It's like angels have come down from Heaven to heal them completely out of the blue, and it really has that sort of a feel to it.
You should do everything great about The Adventures of Tin Tin, the movie looks amazing and has so many great actors in it!
Agreed. The animation is top notch!
@@r3tr0_r3dux_2 I know right! It gives me chills!
@@riv3rrunn3r84 merci. It’s my favorite movie. Also I am from Belgium and I have almost all Tintin book even the 3 most controversials
I love that movie he absolutely should do a video on it
@@bamboozlednoodle6513 yup. Also my favorite character in the film is Omar Ben Salaam played by Gad Elmaleh
I am here for Lee taking NO prisoners when it comes to pointing out the abundant wealth inequality in the US (and elsewhere). +1 win for realism
But someone who makes $35000 and has a $60,000 house is technically part of the 10% of the world. So would you ask those people to give? Many countries have very wealthy people as well what about them? Should we try to control their wealth to give to others?
We are the 4%
@@d5o1001 yes.
Wealth inequality in the US lmao, you have no idea how good the US has it compared to so many other countries. Would you rather everyone starve under mass socialism? Then at least we'd be equal 🤷♂️
@@cabnbeeschurgr Maybe they should look for some discounted organs from China if they're worried about medical costs so badly. That'll give em the moral high ground!
I love how you are talking about how bad the LA law enforcement is in both irl and movie
You have hands down one of the best chanels on youtube. i love everything you do :)
To explain, Elysium isn't the sole greek afterlife but started as an afterlife for those favored by the gods before becoming a general "good person" afterlife.
I really can't wait for you to do Chappie! Movies like this are so, SO good!!
Well, this movie aged phenomenally.
Really?
@@starwarsprequelsandsequels7582 phenomenally, as in it aged well.
Blomkamp (and his team) are so incredible at vfx. There's a great video of one of the compositors for district 9 talking about all the unique tech they had made for Nuke just to get it as perfect as possible. "district 9 compositor nuke" should bring it up.
Kinda random fun fact: the toilet became common use in the 1800s, but it was actually invented in the 1500s by a poet. This particular poet was critical of the English government at the time, so his idea was suppressed by Queen Elizabeth the first, but she took the blueprints and had one made for herself and just cept it to herself. So the thing about rich people hording technology to themselves is a very real thing.
I never knew that about the tiolet but the wealthy gatekeeping technology for themselves really ought to just be common sense to be honest.
Surprised you didn't touch on Ryan Amon's score. The main Elysium theme that tends to play whenever focusing on the station is superb, and there are great standouts like Fire Up the Shuttle, You Have No Idea, and so on.
Gosh we really need to get an EGA Hardcore Henry. C'mon. Copley needs all his appearances covered, if just for Platinum Trophy.
I have been watching this channel for a long time and every video is always a joy to watch. Your outlook on art and cinema has really changed my own outlook to giving more movies a chance when I might now have otherwise. Keep it up!
Man I need to watch this movie again. So glad you finally covered this one!
The Exo-suit logo @ 13:12 fooled me. I thought it was a "Gerber knives" brand placement until I went back and looked. I suppose it still could be since this takes place in the future.
"Maybe we should get out the voting ballets, I mean guillotine I MEAN EAT THE RICH"
is the greatest quote in the histories of quotes
tbf, eating the rich would go a long way to solving world hunger. just saying... just don't eat the brains, that gets you kuru. which would help with the overpopulation problem...
@@eddyguizonde401 eat what you can of the rich and then use their money to buy everyone who didn't get to eat food.
Absolutely based
I wouldn't eat the rich. You know they'd be gamey as hell.
Anyone who parrots that line is a fucking idiot being led around BY THE RICH. Fortify some more elections so you can all be put out of business while politicians and big companies profit.
I will watch anything Neill Blomkamp makes. I love his aesthetic senses so so much. Everything looks so cool and dirty and dusty. It's just perfect.
I would really love to see 'stabilized cam' used as a shakey cam substitute.
Love the work you do brother. Thanks for a great positive attitude even when talking about gritty subjects no one wants to, even if it’s just a reflection message from a sci-fi movie.
I like your occasionally serious critiques about real world problems Lee, it's very eye opening.
"And write mean things because I haven't done the Snyder Cut, yet"
*chef's kiss* 🤣🤣🤣
Lol
He said it? Haha. But we Snyder cut fans haven't had a great time since the movie released. Been waiting for Lee here to bring some light into our dark timelines. So we can be a little mean at times
@@rushpan93 at the 14:12 mark is where he said it. 🤣🤣😂😂
@@danielland3767 lmao. Ok Lee, we won't be mean anymore. 😅
@@rushpan93 🤣🤣😂😂ikr
Elysium, the space station, reminds me of the Presidium of the Citadel within Mass Effect.
Interesting
I don't normally comment on your vids even though I've been watching for like 3 years now. I thought your political commentary was well written and expressed eloquently. I generally watch your vids to feed my optimism, but I appreciate your willingness to express your opinions openly. I think that you approached the issue with respect and level-headedness, a quality that is often lacking in these kinds of tense discussions. I am a firm believer in the idea that change comes from having a civil, open conversation, with the intent to promote equality and equity. You make the internet a little bit of a brighter place, and I just wanted to say thanks for that.
Work the shaft you slobbering bitch. It's the smartest thing you know how to do.
Great job as always I rewatched this movie recently and liked it more than I remember. You should do “Tucker and Dale vs Evil” for October!!
I like how in the cinamesins video they said that the design of the space station was ”unneccesesary” but they also say in this video that its ”realistic and functional”
Made by different people
the design of something can be cool (hypothetically) and also stupid and pointless (in practice)
I really like that this movie is about as subtle as a train wreck on a boat.
Yeah, but when media is subtle with it's themes a lot of people just switch off and ignore them, there's value in being unsubtle.
THANK YOU for calling out the bullsh*t going on in our country. Thank you for using your platform to expose this…😞😭
Yes, we NEED everything great about Johny Mnemonic!
I'm all for a EGA Johnny Mnenomic, but I'd love an EGA Hardcore Henry as well. I saw it in the cinema and there was grandmothers laughing their heads off.
I hope you eventually do Speed Racer, it's a great and underrated movie
Yup
I would listen to John Goodman complain about the poor quality of ninjas these days for hours.
Shartlo Copley killed the accent. I was astonished how hard he nailed it when I first watched it, stole every scene. Really liked that he added the south African slang in his lines. He really sounds like he comes from here and it made my year the first time I watched it, really sounds like he comes from a certain place in South africa
Please do cloud atlas, it’s crazy and insane and weird and I’d love to know your thoughts!!!
Yup
This!
When it came out, I remember reviews griping about how long it was. Those naive fools.
One of the most underrated sci-fi movies from the last few decades, they really did this movie dirty by underselling it. Neil Blomkamp should be doing more things.
Man I'm glad you cover this, it's always made me uncomfortable but that's the point. Being Mexican I can relate to the "ilegal people" dieing for the chance of saving their children's lives or being denied basic human right for not being from a certain class. Great video as always. Thank you.
Word of God: The citizens of Elysium are Older Than They Look. A Freeze-Frame Bonus says that Carlyle is born in 2010, making him 144 years old. Jodie Foster says that Delacourt is 108.
As a nerd, I would watch an entire exposition of this. Human cell division stops at 125 years, making that effectively our maximum age (ish). How they overcame the aging process of cell division with some Star Trek level dialogue would be fun. Solving the "age" epidemic we have would go a long way in supporting Interstellar travel!
The whole "space colony spins to create gravity via centrifugal force" concept is, at the very least, 40-ish years old by this point. Space Odyssey did it and the Gundam franchise have been doing it since it started in 79.
Super appreciate the recognition of the grim relation of this movie to reality. Far too many people will just over look it because they can't see it being possible... because they choose to close their eyes, or just don't see the path from our point a to the point b that Elysium represents.
YES PLEASE EGA Johnny Mnemonic! It's like it was MADE for this channel, an overlooked gem with undeniable flaws but also undeniably great aspects!
0:51 loved how he recognised lorn. Wish one day we get a full-fledged OST of some sci fi movie from him.
Amazing review. The casually brutal and personal killing in this movie still sticks with me even though I watched it years ago. Almost scarier to see how little human life is worth rather than how unequal that society is.
I’d like to submit my vote for Johnny Mnemonic, I’d also just like to say that I’d love to hear what you have to say about the Snyder cut Leigh, I really respect your opinion on movies
I literally forgot about this movie.
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He always sounds so elated when narrating ☺️❤️
Hell YES we need Johnny Mnemonic! It's such a gem
I wish I could "like" this video more than once. Thank you so much for this, Lee, I feel like it was somehow too short, I love hearing people outside of my usual political youtube talking about human rights, equality, and societal problems that aren't fixed just because of people making money off them
Kinda like how BLM leaders bought mansions?
Or that Climate alarmists have ocean front property?
Or maybe how trans activists are accusing gay people of transphobia?
Zealots are just as bad as grifters.
I kinda feel like politics don't belong on this channel but whatever he can do what he wants with it
@@JonGreen91 Without sources/references you might as well be presenting a strawman argument here.
@Cabnbeeschugr When the movie being discussed is inherently political, I don't see how it does justice to the film to ignore or skirt around those issues?
i did not expect such a depressing breakdown of the modern world in this light entertainment/ analysis show. And yes i still loved it
I want a sequel, prequel, video game, minnie series, full on TV show, breakfast cereal... Anything else?! I want more entertainment in the same world.
Going back to old films and being like "oh this film was about class war too, cool"
I remember seing this movie for the first time. It does not hide away the fact that it's about class war. Elysium makes it slightly more litteral imo by making the station's forces act like a '' realistic'' (for the standard amount of displacement of this movie) military. But if I say that the movie is worse than reality, people will find me some counter examples, and I don' t wish to be depressed by this
Wait, how come there's no "Everything Great about District 9"? It's such a great film
We’re gonna need Everything Great About The Suicide Squad very soon 👀
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Honestly the suicide squad wasn't that good,
Its an action movie with amazing cgi without an actual story
Also the villain wasn't good.
But its just my opinion lol
Yep.
@@EDENGIDOR Still better than the previous one, am I right?
Yes
You named dropped it! You named dropped it and we've GOTTA get EGW Hardcore Henry and we will... be more than happy to wait for it because I'm sure you've got a schedule planned for the next 10 videos or so. But we will be waiting!
How has Johnny Mnemonic not been covered yet?
YES COVER IT!
1:36 depending on what the medication is, that's a pretty reasonable list of side effects, maybe a bit short
"Keanu's buddy Henry Rollins". Yep. Got that one. Nice.
I’ve only ever seen Moonfall and this really reminds me of that movie.
Neil Blomkamp films are always prescient and heavy, and that's what make them so good. What's sad is I always thought that the Elysium colony is the closest we're ever going to get to seeing his theatrical version of Halo..
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Thx Mate. For this and all of your videos.
Great work, pleasure to watch.
Keep it up ❤️✊😉