It doesn't turn off because the ones that can turn it off are(Master) baiting while watching him get a massive dose of radiation and enjoying it while he suffers
It doesn't turn off because the ones that can turn it off are(Master) baiting while watching him get a massive dose of radiation and enjoying it while he suffers
i also like how it's supposed to be this really painful, in depth surgery and yet he needs no time to recover and is up and moving like nothing happened hours later.
@@daleparker6308 You've watched "tons of their gideos" [sic] even though you think "they fucking suck". I'm not calling you an idiot but... you're an idiot.
Too many undefined variables. Define poor people. Define rich people. Define health care. Define the source of power that determines what one deserves. Half the worlds population lives on less than $2 per day. Sounds like that makes you rich, but do you speak for all rich people? I refuse to get political without getting logical as well as empirical.
Illness and injury helps to keeps the population in check. More people would starve/dehydrate if almost none die from disease or injury, and it would make things more difficult than letting nature take care of some of that for you. I'd suggest a compulsory extermination programme to make up for it.
Cd5ssmffan Funny you bring that up. We never really have anything beyond second hand accounts about "how bad earth is". No major scenes on earth, no video or other empirical proof. Just heresay filling in for exposition. Im not thoroughly convinced earth WAS that bad off. Just that mining other worlds was more lucrative than halting progress and shifting priorities to make earth more self sustainable.
I'm suprised you didnt comment on how Elysium would collapse shortly after the coup due to unsustainability of billions of people going their for permanent vacation
The "unnecessary space wheel cliche" is not a sin. That is a common theoretical design for habitable space station. It slowly spins to create centripetal force therefore gravity for people living on the rim. It also means that the centre remains in 0g - perfect for docking ships. You end up with a perfect ecosystem around the design of the station: spaceport and utilities in the centre, industry and jobs in the inner ring and residential areas on the outer ring.
Elysium is a very flawed movie, but the motive for having an agent on Earth shoot down the ships rather than missiles on the station is plausible deniability. This allows Elysium leaders to put the blame on some rogue agent on Earth and keep their hands clean.
That's... pretty stupid. I mean, what are they going to say? "Whew, sure glad some random person on Earth just happened to inexplicably fire some missles into space to shoot down the illegal spacecraft that was entering our atmosphere at that precise moment! Yep, we totally had nothing to do with it!"
CorollaNut68 Seems more likely that "terrorists" would attack Elysium rather than illegal immigrants, especially considering people on Elysium obviously wouldn't give a damn if immigrants were attacked, so I don't see what kind of statement that would be making but, whatever.
Pity Cinema Sins completely ignored that the mom had a FLOWER VASE in her hands that she used to break in...not the child...but hey...fucked up edition/cut? whatever...
Also, the exoskeleton being bonded to the skeleton, which means it's only as strong as the wearer's skeleton. Similarly, the power assist for the hands is on the back, while the palms & fingers are left free. The part where Damon rips the droid's head off would've crushed his own hands in the process.
Did you notice just how strong Matt Damon is in the movie. He seemed far more powerful than he should be since he's just a civilian who is dying of radiation poisoning, yet he seemed to be pretty powerful even against Kruger.
4:33 and here we see Pablo Escobar from an alternate universe were he is still doing illegal stuff but is not as powerful and is also disabled....almost forgot to mention that he's not overweight
#1 sin. Elysium's #1 threat are people breaking into their homes to use their bed. They could easily send a few beds down to Earth and the problem is completely solved.
RaptorNX01 No because by giving the beds to the earth people they are making things much more worse, earth is overpopulated and the people will less likely die because they have the medical beds now.
Khongor Shatar What do they care about Earth's overpopulation problems, they live on Elysium. They are more concerned with their own overpopulation problems than Earth's.
I noticed, but I was mostly just wondering why people had the suits screwed into their backs, but left the shirt on while doing it. That's just pretty gross.
Power armor is a general term for a powered exoskeleton that amplifies the physical capabilities of the user. He had a low tech older model that plug into the flesh. to help him accomplish the job despite his cells all dying from ionizing radiation. What would you expect when you see the surgeons passing a joint before the operation?
This is what bothers you? If he lives through it, he is obviously getting the exoskeleton taken off, he will change then. If he won't get to med bay, he will die in what can be counted in hours, so who cares if he dies in the same clothes he had yesterday? He for sure wouldn't care if he would die smelling. This is the reason he even let them put that thing onto him.
It's funny because the character can't even take off his pants to go to take care of some basic human necessities. I know he is dying but none of even the most basic stuff is thought out in this movie. I guess he just has to hold it till the mission is over? That's some motivation to get to Elysium! Then again Matt Damon has always seemed like he was full of shit from interviews he has made so I'm sure it helped in the casting director choose him for this role.
George Hamilton of course its been done before! Take a pair of earbuds and spin them over your head, the reason they pull outwards instead of being pulled down by gravity is the same reason the pinwheel design would work (centrifugal force)
TheWindigomonster ffs, "it has never been done before": as in "we have never built a fucking wheel space station that spun on it's axis to generate artificial gravity", not as in " does the centrifugal force work?" dumb ass
The wheel design is needed. Centripedal force of the station spinning would create artificial gravity as the people are pushed to the edge of the station, meaning the space station doesn't have to be in zero G. Otherwise, great video as usual, guys.
***** It's actually simple logic. The "artificial gravity" produced by a spinning torus space station design comes from the same property of matter that makes car drifting possible, and that causes tall vehicles to roll over if they take a turn too quickly.
Something I haven't seen sci-fi fantasies tackle with the wheel design would be it's relative ease to create practically endless power. If you attach a cable from that station alll the way down to earth, (a super strong one of course, and heavily protected) then attach a generator to the station so the motion of it's gravity-producing spinning would create power, then the fact that space has practically no gravity to slow down the wheel would mean it would spin under it's own momentum for years, generating amazing power, which would be sent down to Earth and distributed. The problem is, that power would then be greedily snatched up and sold through an artificial bidding war.
I think the reason they used land based missiles was political rather than the station not having defense. The healing machine thing was insane though. Even if they didn't allow them on Earth all the manufacturing was done there so there would be pirated ones made from parts that "didn't fit quality standards". Plus, why would that have THAT MANY medical ships if they never used them? Why would they have ANY medical ships?
The rich people on Elysium just wanna flex. It's pretty much like the *ahem * richer countries having access to vaccines and advanced medical care during the early part of the current pandemic while the "less affluent" countries had to eat dust.
You gotta admit, the art direction on this film is incredible. I’m getting echoes of anime designs with a few video game design references as well. The Elysium station’s design reminds me of the colony stations from Gundam Wing and the Endless Waltz OVA, while the military transport that Kruger uses echoes the design of the Pelican dropships from the Halo games. Unintentional fan service? Maybe. Also, Neil Blompkamp was gonna direct a Halo film with Weta providing the visual effects. This was before the production fell through due to budget conflicts.
This movie apparently wants us to regard "the rich" as the villains just because they had the nerve to want to preserve their own lives and comfort in the face of a worldwide apocalyptic meltdown while others lacked the means that they had to do so. Because in classic liberal hollywood fashion it is apparently better for everyone to be poor and destitute than for most people to be poor and destitute while some are rich. It's like opposite propaganda from Atlas Shrugged.
RepublicofEthan And also because they deport visitors, because it's not like a man-made satellite has a limited supply of space and oxygen that isn't capable of accommodating the entire human population or anything.
Wagon wheel design spinning is the only plausible method of artificial gravity. That said I did not like the movie and the centrifugal force would not have held in the air as shown in the movie due to the pressure differential.
+HiddenWindshield We're only ever shown people walking around inside the spaceships when the ships are in the same frame of reference as a surface with gravity, right?
Great stuff. The one major thing it missed was that Jodie Foster was playing Margaret Thatcher in this movie, which was a joke of hers that seems to have gotten under the radar for American audiences.
furthurondown You Septics are so precious with your delusion that you single-handedly won WW2. If any one nation can be said to have won WW2, it'd be Russia, not 'Murka.
One thing I've noticed about this movie is that a very important billionaire person gets 2 robotic guards to guard him. That's it. Plus, he didn't even get those protective bullet shield on his plane to avoid getting shot. Also, the Elysium's main place doesn't have any robotic guards in it to stop them. It took the robotic guards 20-some minutes to arrive even tho there's a factory making robotic figures.
they did Red October, spiderman 1&2, Hunger games, The avengers, Life of pi, Django unchained, those were quite highly acclaimed, not shawshank levels but still quite high
Johan Hoekstra Yeah, I know they've done some very good films, but I wanted to see some for the the best movies of all time. Also, was the Hunger Games movie highly acclaimed? I liked it, but I felt the movie had a lot of plot holes and the concepts like sponsorship were poorly explained.
Forrest Gump wasn't highly acclaimed and its very weak rating of 72 % on Rotten Tomatoes (for a Best Picture winner at least) proves that. It's rather massively popular, but it wasn't loved by critics across the board. Sometimes several Oscars (especially in major categories) can give such a wrong impression about how much critics actually liked the film (the same goes for Braveheart and Gladiator - both highly criticized for historical inaccuracy - and to a lesser extent for Titanic). That said, I'd love to see an Everything wrong with Forrest Gump... vid. Doubt Cinemasins (despite its motto "no movie is without sin") will touch an untouchable (pun intended) classic like the Godfather, though.
Well, thats actually sad, if instead of a grand chapter of mathematics, which took hundred years to form, by tousend of mathematicians, people think of some puny channel on some website... pathetic
If the movie was supposed to have analogies to modern day problems of poverty and illegal immigration, it was hard to really spot a good reason why the peoples of earth wouldn't be able to higher their standards of living on their own. They just seem to go about spray painting on stuff.
TheWoodaba Why can't people in real life just get better living conditions? It's only technology that allows us to have it comfortable. And as such installing such technologies is people just getting better living conditions. Poverty is living under anarchy and constant strife in my opinion. These are things that restrain progress.
Herrera saurus Yeah, you really don't have any idea what poverty is. I imagine you've lived your entire life in a comfortable middle class home. There are many, many, reasons why people can't get better living conditions. First and foremost is money. How does someone make money? Through a job. How do you get better jobs? Through education. What does Education cost? Money. Thereby, if you lack money, you're unlikely to be able to improve your social standing in any meaningful way. People can't just "get" better living conditions. Stop being so closed-minded.
TheWoodaba I wonder how you can be so sure what poverty is yourself. Because you come off as very arrogant and rude, and wont write why you feel the need to be that way. I'm thinking you argue from emotion rather than reason now. Poor argumentation indeed. But anyway, when it comes to poverty you can't explain it as if it's an individual problem. You need to educate or share knowledge with a large group of people. Money you can get from discovering a natural resource in your country or where you happen to live. If we're talking about African poverty now, look up when OPEC was created and made the price of oil constant. They pumped western oil money money back into the west, and the west loaned African countries loads of money. But a lot of African countries live under anarchy and constant tribal strife (see Rwanda). So poverty is still a thing there. So yes, better living conditions is something you can just get, via technology and a united society, which African countries unfortunately lack
+Herrera saurus That's complete nonsense. If that was true, there wouldn't be so much poverty in America, one of the wealthiest countries in the world and, newsflash, a significant portion of the population of the USA live below the poverty line. You view poverty as something so incredibly abstract and widespread that you cannot even consider individual or structural factors that lead to poverty, boiling down everything to "IF A COUNTRY IS POOR THEN THE PEOPLE ARE POOR", as if you got all your knowledge on this topic from fucking Civilization games.
Well, normally, the spinning space station creates centrifugal force which keeps everything on its feet, thus creates artificial gravity. Since oxygen is subject to gravity as well, it stays inside the half-pipe design of the station. In practice, the space station would have to be much, much bigger in order to keep the oxygen inside it.
the Earth doesn't have a cover also, just open air being pulled in by gravity, air is being pulled by the centrifugal force created by the spinning space station, like when you spin a cup of water around with a string
NavidIsANoob I'm not a fancy city sciencemotologist, but from what I've read, Elysium is supposedly - as it is in the magical world of this movie - 34 km wide. So with a radius of roughly 17 km, achieving Earth G should require about 0.23 rpm in angular speed. Now the necessary centrifugal force to hold that atmosphere down will require knowledge of how much air, the mass of the station, and probably the linear speed. Long story, short - as you have said - the bigger the whale is, the slower they'd have to go to achieve the same result. My question would be : If it is an open roof where crafts can park on your space lawn, then what keeps the various types of radiation in space from killing people? I mean. They are sunbathing in some of those scenes. It would take moments to blind a person.
Rechenmaschine Ehh... the atmosphere and Earth's magnetic field I guess? The concept of "atmosphere" staying in place due to centrifugal force is a concept from Ringworld, where a massive, massive ring rotates around a star. With a ring that big, there's enough atmosphere to protect people from radiation, like on Earth. I guess Elysium wanted to do the same with a small version, except it's not realistic at all. Radiation would actually still be a problem.
having autism, i really appreciate how these videos break down and explain all the visual metaphors i always miss. it makes the movie way more enjoyable to me.
I just thought it was weird that Delacourt just gave up so easily. "I have a nurse standing over me and a medbed not too far, but I think I'll give up."
Because she's made to be cartoonishly evil on purpose. "Bah, I'd rather die than have this inferior peasant heal me!", all she needed was a moustache to twirl.
@@miles2378 yeah that's because of the futuristic force field tech that movie failed to mention except for a scene which kruger has personal shield. MovieSins sinned that one I guess.
I liked this movie, its not as good as District 9; but really entertaining. And Kruger was the best part of it, who would know that Wikus can be so evil and badass?! "Its just a flesh wound!!!" Love him!:)
You do realize that a "cartwheel" design for a space station is actually the most practical possible layout. The inhabitants occupy the outermost ring, and the station rotates to provide artificial gravity in the form of centrifugal force. I don't know why you call that "unnecessary".
Centrifugal force is not an actual force, and the sensation it stimulates is an outward tug. You were thinking of centripetal force, and even with that, there is no way to create artificial gravity.
Beta Bair Actually in a rotating reference frame centrifugal force appears clear as day. The OP was quite reasonable to refer to it as artificial gravity.
But centrifugal force pulls outward. It would be the opposite of what gravity does. Also, it does not actually exist, it is only a sensation, so it cannot provide a force similar to gravity.
google "Stanford Torus" it and its derivatives are the best examples of long term habitation design that does not already rely on other forms of artificial gravity
Ok the space station in Elysium is actually based on an a real life theoretical concept design known as the "Stanford Torus" that was proposed by NASA in 1975. The shot of Elysium that you see during the title card is actually inspired by a painting that Donal E. Davis did for the interior of the Stanford Torus . The "wagon wheel" design is not unnecessary for the reasons that other have pointed but it is in fact, also scientifically relevant. Also, let's be real, it doesn't mater what the space station looked like, you would find an excuse to sin it anyway.
Happy Sniphurr That movie was so terrible, he bothered to research exactly why it pissed off the fans. That research driving the counter over 9000 (LOL) totally counts as a bonus round n_n
9:20 you missed one: An accidental crash is in no way an act of war and even if Foster's character tries to claim it was an intentional attack, she has no evidence to back that up
I think part of it is because in his earlier videos, each sin would be short, sarcastic, and witty. Now, he seems to rant a lot longer for a lot of the sins.
becasue then people wouldnt die anymore??!! making it even worst a problem
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People dying won't solve overpopulation. Think about how much culture we got that promotes & glorifies reproduction. Instead of culling the herd, how about you stunt population growth instead?
Overpopulation is a serious problem, but any attempt to "solve"it will surely fail. The most productive thing you can do for an overpopulated planet (which is pretty unlikely to occur, the earth is massive we just condense ourselves in cities) is accommodate them. Build more cities, mine more resources, develops alternatives to current lack of resources... And finally focus on sustainable energy, like fusion or solar power.
Biggest flaw that no one else has seemed to notice in this movie: Everyone on Elysium has a healing bed in their house, so therefore all those ships filled with healing beds are sitting around and collecting dust instead of helping the people on Earth.
@That Dude I know your comment is old, But I think it was a political statement, elysium being America and not helping the illegal poors across the borders. And while you’re right about public figures and virtue signaling for moral superiority, they’d probably just help 1 family, make a big deal of it, then keep the peasants working slave wages, crowded apartments, indebted to the system that they profit so well off of lol.
There are still working 110 year old Model Ts. And the Cubans have made 1950s Chevies run for 70 years. It’s entirely possible someone could keep a 1990 Chevy truck running if that’s the only transport available. It might be running on some sort of scavenged high tech electric motor or something (Cubans liked to put Soviet tractor diesels in theirs).
Actually it might be possible the movie is stolen from a german Point and Click Adventure called "Deponia". In the game you play Rufus. A guy living on Deponia, a planet full of trash and stuff and he wants to escape from his dirty home to a city in the clouds called Elysium where it is like heaven in comparison to Deponia. Seems like the same damn story to me.
the stupidest thing about this movie was that you were supposed to care about the plight of the people on earth and dislike the people on elysium. but i was like fuck the people of earth theyre so overpopulated its their fault. and its not like elysium is on earth taking up all this room that the poor people cant go into, its in space. power to them for building something that will make some peoples lives good whilst having literally no negative impact on the people below. and they complain about not having the magic healing machines? the populations is already massive, but you want to save more people?
This movie was a political message about socialism, an idea that i buy into. But if we're being honest, sheer self preservation in a dystopian future like that would mean of course I would flee earth and live in a giant wheel thing
This is a terrible thing for me to say but sometimes i think it would be terrible if there was a cure to a lot of diseases because the population is already out of control, we actually need ppl to die!!
+Tara Shaw You are an idiot. We don't need people to die. We just need ways to improve the rate at which we can produce food and other such basic necessities. We also need to better improve our distributions of such resources in other to help the less fortunate. The world have plenty of room for humanity to grow, we just need to utilize it more efficiently.
The "wagon" design is actually a more accurate representation of gravity in space. Because of the moving ring, gravity is able to be artificially generated via centrifugal motion
Ok, so most of these are not mistakes or bad script or directing. And honestly, if you don't like the movie, why watch it so many time? Give me a perfect script for a movie like this. There is none. This is as close to a great sci-fi movie as it can get
he never said they were bad movies, he is pointing out bad things in them giving the point "No movie is without sin" a mean, he has done some of his favorite films before
Jodie Foster did such a bad job in th movie. And that stupid pro-immigration message was almost as bad as avatar. I hate these artsy directors/writers trying to make themselves look like champions of the poor while they get ridiculously rich off lousy movies like this.
"pro-immigration message was almost as bad as avatar" ok I'm stumped where exactly is that in avatar, unless of course your referring to the way the movies show their messages.
What both movies lacked was duality in both sides. Avatar had the military side so blatantly obviously evil while Elysium did the same with the rich Elysium people. Both needed some of the "bad" characters to show some decency so the audience doesn't 100% hate them. It was pretty laughable when Cameron talked about deforesting and corporate greed like they they were subtle concepts he was peppering in to Avatar.
Why go through the trouble of going to Elysium to use one of the those miracle healing machines when you could easily hack into a computer from Elysium to get the blue-prints for one and then this wild goose chase to go to Elysium would have been completely avoided.
Are you stupid? People of 21st century live in shacks, you really think they would be able to construct a machine capable of completely reconstructing a man's head?
The Point I'm trying to get across is that the movie was complete shit. The Plot had so many holes in it that it would be more than enough to fill the Albert Hall.
***** They had space shuttles, modern computers and modern military technology. I'd say maybe they should invest less in weapons and more in medical supplies and they would be OK.
the wagon wheel design is actually important. in order to simulate gravity the station needs to spin, and depending on the speed and distance from the center will determine how strong the gravity is.
Yeah. The centripetal force caused by the outer walls on the people inside acts as an adjustable gravitational force. Its basically a really slow, really big centrifuge ride at the carnival.
Omglosser To be fair, Halo kind of ripped it off Ender's Game. And Ringworld. And Physics. You know that new big ball thingie that they were in come Halo 4 (And Halo Wars)? Dyson Sphere. Bungie/343 did its homework.
***** Five minutes of paying attention to MIDDLE SCHOOL science and you wouldn't have needed to google, but since you insist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotating_wheel_space_station Not only are you incredibly ignorant, but a stupid rude trolling ass. Gravity also is not a mystery to science, only to you. Scientists know a lot about it and it's fundamental to all physics. If they didn't understand it, there would be no planes, rockets, etc. It's been understood in a basic form since Newton in the 1600's (sorry, you'd need to actually learn something in school to know that.) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_law_of_universal_gravitationen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_law_of_universal_gravitation
Leonid Saykin It doesn't look ridiculous to people with a clue. If they'd implemented some other form of artificial gravity, then they'd have to explain it, and that would take time away from the plot. Better to just go with realism that everyone understands, and leave it at that.
You forgot my favorite part. The radiation chamber detects organic tissue and *DOESNT STOP* Then the dumbass coworkers try to pry open a radiation blast door made of fucking mega lead, meant to protect whoever is on the outside from potential radiation leak. While the emergency stop button is right next to them.
Git to hand it to you sir: you certainly have a way with words! It's almost worth having silliness in movies so you can have a crack at them! It seems each Movie sin tally is funnier than the previous one! Kudos! ;-)
The problem with this film was it wasn't a film, it was a really poorly done propaganda piece for universal health care. It was a rushed class warfare \ healthcare piece. Not that those are bad or wrong, but if you are going to do a piece like that it has to have a great amount of craft and sincerity. To Kill a Mockingbird, both as a book and a film do it right. This is like the infomercial of propaganda works. It's thin, transparent, juvenile, and well... cheap. The Day After Tomorrow is it's spouse and another shining example of a poorly done propaganda work. Same with Avatar. It has it's place, nothing wrong with a film trying to sell an idea, but you have to put the work in to make it a sophisticated work that engages people rather then a thin lecture.
Idgarad Lyracant _"Same with Avatar. It has it's place, nothing wrong with a film trying to sell an idea, but you have to put the work in to make it a sophisticated work that engages people rather then a thin lecture."_ But Avatar DID engage people. It made over 2 billion in the box office and has legions of fans world wide. No other film, not 'To Kill A Mockingbird' or any of YOUR favorite films ever did that. Looks like Cameron doesn't need pointers from you on how to improve his movies.
Idgarad Lyracant A movie can't entertain if it doesn't engage the audience and draw them into its world. You sure we understand the word 'engage' here?
***** I think you missed the purpose of the word engage. It means 'engage the person in the message it's getting across'. Avatar engaged viewers in making them entertained, but they did terribly at engaging the audience in it's message. It's not moving or anything, it's just another overrated, overhyped, CGI filled, futuristic, adventure movie
Marshall Banana Take your word for it. I thought she might be doing some really bad British type accent or something but I could never exactly nail it down. At one point I decided it was one of those 'sci-fi' dialects where they mix the accents of different areas together. That or something like that awful Will Smith movie with his kid in it. :)
Marshall Banana Oh yeah he did didn't he. :) I always describe Bane from the Nolan movies as sounding like Elmer Fudd trying to do a really bad German accent. :) In the comics he has a Spanish accent but since they changed his backstory I guess they thought that one made more sense. It really didn't but whatever. :) I also read they had to dub his voice because what they got on set wasn't working.
Marshall Banana I guess so. I do remember them having issues with what they used (I don't know if they decided they didn't like it or if he was just hard to hear/understand through that mask) so they came up with the one in the movie. The more I think about it I think a full on Vader type thing would've worked much better. Maybe next time around.
Peter Jackson and Neil Blomkamp were going to make a Halo movie Unfortunately that got scrapped and turned into District-9 A lot of the pre-production of Halo was put into District-9 & Elysium So thats why theres is so much Gadget porn in these movies. And why Elysium kinda looks like the Halo ring.
I doubt that's why it has the ring shape considering it has a rather different design from Halo and the props used on this movie lack any similarity to those throughout the Halo series.
***** The weapons are very similar to what we see in the Halo series, different but extremely similar, come on? The freaking robots and the force field the guys uses look very similar to what we see in Halo. I thinks he did that in respect to the halo franchise, look it up, District-9 was going to be Halo before the studio backed out.
Missed one: the radiation machine can detect living flesh inside it, but it doesn't automatically turn off when it does; is this thing evil?
"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that." - HAL 9000
Population control
It doesn't turn off because the ones that can turn it off are(Master) baiting while watching him get a massive dose of radiation and enjoying it while he suffers
It doesn't turn off because the ones that can turn it off are(Master) baiting while watching him get a massive dose of radiation and enjoying it while he suffers
*skynet smiles*
I like the way they bolt the exoskeleton suit into Matt Damon's bones through his cloths so he can never take off his shirt.
i also like how it's supposed to be this really painful, in depth surgery and yet he needs no time to recover and is up and moving like nothing happened hours later.
ThePunkPhantom Aren't future drugs great?
b-b-b-b-but that movie i-i-i-s a masterpiece :'(
Also he would be fucked if he broke a bone cause the exoskeleton could rip the bone out.......
Prillis! Future cocaine is a hell of a drug.
I just can't stop watching that scene of Kruger's head getting put back together. That is some damn fine CGI.
My favorite too.
Im sure a good amount of the budget went to it
If you pause right before the grenade takes out his face you will see it's a plastic fake head
But the wheel space station design was necessary :(
yea design a clue (-;
Wei Zhao things would fall in a straight line towards the outer edge of the torus, so the ground on the station.
Looks like Ferrari wheel :) Maybe it was designed by Italians?
Because cinemasins does that stupid shit in tons of their gideos because they fucking suck.
@@daleparker6308 You've watched "tons of their gideos" [sic] even though you think "they fucking suck". I'm not calling you an idiot but... you're an idiot.
You missed the biggest sin. How does healing everyone on earth solve the shitty overcrowding/poverty problem?
Darkfelt FoE In that, poor people getting medical aid doesn't fix anything? or that rich people think poor people don't deserve health care?
Too many undefined variables. Define poor people. Define rich people. Define health care. Define the source of power that determines what one deserves.
Half the worlds population lives on less than $2 per day. Sounds like that makes you rich, but do you speak for all rich people?
I refuse to get political without getting logical as well as empirical.
Illness and injury helps to keeps the population in check. More people would starve/dehydrate if almost none die from disease or injury, and it would make things more difficult than letting nature take care of some of that for you.
I'd suggest a compulsory extermination programme to make up for it.
It would make it worse, the poor won't stop fucking when they feel good.
It doesn’t but at least people will be healthy
You forgot to remove a sin for the Bugatti space ship
Foreshadowing for black panther
@@samuelefesoa7317 The Black Panther Buggati spaceship sucked ass
You mean add one right?
@@Astroman10 I wouldve added 150
Fun fact: 2154 is the same year Avatar is set in. Except Avatar has a way shittier planet Earth.
Cd5ssmffan Funny you bring that up. We never really have anything beyond second hand accounts about "how bad earth is". No major scenes on earth, no video or other empirical proof. Just heresay filling in for exposition. Im not thoroughly convinced earth WAS that bad off. Just that mining other worlds was more lucrative than halting progress and shifting priorities to make earth more self sustainable.
tnerb tnerb There are deleted scenes, you can check them out if you want. They show Earth and the state it was in.
@tnerb You have clearly not seen the director's cut!
way shittier leftist plot also in avatar
True, Kruger's mercenaries look like RDA soldiers.
Also Mass Effect is set around the same year.
I'm suprised you didnt comment on how Elysium would collapse shortly after the coup due to unsustainability of billions of people going their for permanent vacation
yeah, not practical
The "unnecessary space wheel cliche" is not a sin. That is a common theoretical design for habitable space station. It slowly spins to create centripetal force therefore gravity for people living on the rim. It also means that the centre remains in 0g - perfect for docking ships. You end up with a perfect ecosystem around the design of the station: spaceport and utilities in the centre, industry and jobs in the inner ring and residential areas on the outer ring.
It wouldn't exactly work but I get what you mean
@@fanban2926 why not? I don't think you get what he means. look up von Braun wheel
Halo did it first 😌
@@treytilley333 dear god no and as for halo Larry Niven says otherwise
And plasma windows are being tuned now problems still mostly damage to systems transiting thru
Elysium is a very flawed movie, but the motive for having an agent on Earth shoot down the ships rather than missiles on the station is plausible deniability. This allows Elysium leaders to put the blame on some rogue agent on Earth and keep their hands clean.
Like their technology wouldn't be able to instantly detect and instantly identify anyone launching missiles strong enough to launch into orbit?
That's... pretty stupid. I mean, what are they going to say? "Whew, sure glad some random person on Earth just happened to inexplicably fire some missles into space to shoot down the illegal spacecraft that was entering our atmosphere at that precise moment! Yep, we totally had nothing to do with it!"
hedrack08 NO ...in politi-speak it would be...we were not able to "save" the ship from the terrorist
CorollaNut68 Seems more likely that "terrorists" would attack Elysium rather than illegal immigrants, especially considering people on Elysium obviously wouldn't give a damn if immigrants were attacked, so I don't see what kind of statement that would be making but, whatever.
hedrack08
Nah, the powers that be are pretty good at convincing the small folk that the terrorists are here only for THEM.
Biggest problem: Elysium seems to be a geo stationary space station. Impossible on such a low orbit.
It's ok because it's the future
That's a good point. Yet another glaring plot hole.
"Using your lukemic child to break and enter." Hands down the best sin of all time.
Pity Cinema Sins completely ignored that the mom had a FLOWER VASE in her hands that she used to break in...not the child...but hey...fucked up edition/cut? whatever...
@@ryusuken973 the editing Here made it look like I missed that. But I'm sure the girl walked in after her.
Have you ever been to Bucharest? If not, you should go... then you'll know that that much graffiti is easily possible.
*All Graffiti N Original Gangs Originated In East LA N Spread Throughout The World.*
@@cibo889 lmao nah that was just ppl dick suckin to their egyptian emperors not the graffiti we know today
@@cibo889 lmfao ik that but that "graffiti" ur talkin bout started in early Egypt
I am în Bucarest ,i livd here and you have right Matt.
Escuse my bad english.
Earth humans hate futuristic government tech cliche.
Crimson Red Actually, it's just the government. The tech is what everyone wants.
Hmmm Nergigante I see
Ping!
More like futuristic government is shitty towards earth people cliche.
1:00 discount Chappies.
You have made my night, thank you lol
DeQuillsta Ding!
This movie was made by the same director of chappie so kinda a sin
DeQuillsta hahaha nice
Elysium was made before chappie
Also, the exoskeleton being bonded to the skeleton, which means it's only as strong as the wearer's skeleton. Similarly, the power assist for the hands is on the back, while the palms & fingers are left free. The part where Damon rips the droid's head off would've crushed his own hands in the process.
Did you notice just how strong Matt Damon is in the movie. He seemed far more powerful than he should be since he's just a civilian who is dying of radiation poisoning, yet he seemed to be pretty powerful even against Kruger.
@@jackkraken3888 I think it's because of the droid exoskeleton. Before they out that on him he could barely stand
@@OverRule1 I get that, but he was still able to beat the main antagonist who also had an exoskeleton!
@@jackkraken3888 "how you like dem apples" - he said after, unfortunately deleted in post
Yeah, I mean, where did they drill those screws into? Bone? His spinal cord? I'm sure that would not suffice.
Beard regeneration. Nice touch
Yeah, with shaping and everything
💯 th like. Your welcome.
What if Medpods shall have photo artist 2154 app installed..! 🍷
4:33 and here we see Pablo Escobar from an alternate universe were he is still doing illegal stuff but is not as powerful and is also disabled....almost forgot to mention that he's not overweight
#1 sin. Elysium's #1 threat are people breaking into their homes to use their bed. They could easily send a few beds down to Earth and the problem is completely solved.
no, because rich people are dicks.
RaptorNX01 No because by giving the beds to the earth people they are making things much more worse, earth is overpopulated and the people will less likely die because they have the medical beds now.
^^What he said dude
Khongor Shatar
What do they care about Earth's overpopulation problems, they live on Elysium. They are more concerned with their own overpopulation problems than Earth's.
hiimchrisj
I didn't think they wanted Earth. Earth is a complete shithole at this point.
0:50 You'd be mind-blowingly surprised how much a chevy owner would try and keep their heap alive.
Saw this movie last night. Not bad.
It's not great but it has some cool ideas and themes, I loved that part where Matt Damon was talking with his robot probation officer.
I saw it a week ago
No its bad
same
get lost
Also did you notice everyone the entire film kept trying to physically restrain someone with grafted on power armor?
I mean the whole movie not just up on elysium
I noticed, but I was mostly just wondering why people had the suits screwed into their backs, but left the shirt on while doing it. That's just pretty gross.
I haven't seen the movie, but is it really called 'power armor' in there? I mean, it's an exoskeleton rather than armor, isn't it?
Power armor is a general term for a powered exoskeleton that amplifies the physical capabilities of the user. He had a low tech older model that plug into the flesh. to help him accomplish the job despite his cells all dying from ionizing radiation.
What would you expect when you see the surgeons passing a joint before the operation?
What I don't get is how the hell would Max change clothes since his exo suit has been surgically attached into his skeleton, OVER what he was wearing.
Marcus Lowe that bugs me so much in this film!
He rips the clothes off
Then how would he get clothes ON?
This is what bothers you? If he lives through it, he is obviously getting the exoskeleton taken off, he will change then. If he won't get to med bay, he will die in what can be counted in hours, so who cares if he dies in the same clothes he had yesterday? He for sure wouldn't care if he would die smelling. This is the reason he even let them put that thing onto him.
It's funny because the character can't even take off his pants to go to take care of some basic human necessities. I know he is dying but none of even the most basic stuff is thought out in this movie. I guess he just has to hold it till the mission is over? That's some motivation to get to Elysium! Then again Matt Damon has always seemed like he was full of shit from interviews he has made so I'm sure it helped in the casting director choose him for this role.
watching cinema sins instead of the real movie
I think u guys forgot the fact that Max is wearing an Exo suit, but is still held down by Velcro straps with tiny locks on them.
who cares about grafitti
0:20 the wagon wheel design is to make it spin to create artificial gravity
true it's a real theoretical design for a space station with "artificial gravity" but it's not spinning...
haha thats true... and its not theoretical, it would definitely work using centrifugal force
TheWindigomonster It is theoretical because it has never been done before.
George Hamilton of course its been done before! Take a pair of earbuds and spin them over your head, the reason they pull outwards instead of being pulled down by gravity is the same reason the pinwheel design would work (centrifugal force)
TheWindigomonster ffs, "it has never been done before": as in "we have never built a fucking wheel space station that spun on it's axis to generate artificial gravity", not as in " does the centrifugal force work?" dumb ass
This movie had more plot holes than actual plot...
Yes
like some kind of swiss plot cheese
karchay123
And I hate swiss cheese and swiss plot.
how does this movie have plot holes? I think your mistaken this movie for prometheus.
The “you already did that (better come look at this) cliche” was also a “when the bad guy sniffs the good guys girls hair” cliche. Add one sin please.
Jodie Foster originally filmed her scenes in French, and was forced to dub over her original dialogue in English.
Is that true? Why French?
I feel like this is a joke. But if its not it would explain a lot
antred11 yes, because it was supposed to show it was not just Americans up there but all the world’s rich.
That would explain her mouth seeming werid
Wait really?
The wheel design is needed. Centripedal force of the station spinning would create artificial gravity as the people are pushed to the edge of the station, meaning the space station doesn't have to be in zero G. Otherwise, great video as usual, guys.
***** For one, it was in 2001: A Space Odyssey. Some people may have seen/read it there.
***** It's actually simple logic. The "artificial gravity" produced by a spinning torus space station design comes from the same property of matter that makes car drifting possible, and that causes tall vehicles to roll over if they take a turn too quickly.
***** I first heard of it in Halo and then in one of Sergej Lukianenko's works.
Something I haven't seen sci-fi fantasies tackle with the wheel design would be it's relative ease to create practically endless power. If you attach a cable from that station alll the way down to earth, (a super strong one of course, and heavily protected) then attach a generator to the station so the motion of it's gravity-producing spinning would create power, then the fact that space has practically no gravity to slow down the wheel would mean it would spin under it's own momentum for years, generating amazing power, which would be sent down to Earth and distributed. The problem is, that power would then be greedily snatched up and sold through an artificial bidding war.
***** It's like spining a bucket round your head on a rope, the spining causes artificial gravity, meaning the water doesn't fall out
I think the reason they used land based missiles was political rather than the station not having defense.
The healing machine thing was insane though. Even if they didn't allow them on Earth all the manufacturing was done there so there would be pirated ones made from parts that "didn't fit quality standards". Plus, why would that have THAT MANY medical ships if they never used them? Why would they have ANY medical ships?
Medical ships were needed for the soldiers who fought the ground wars and protected elysium owned companies on earth
Maybe the software is only on Elysium?
The rich people on Elysium just wanna flex.
It's pretty much like the *ahem * richer countries having access to vaccines and advanced medical care during the early part of the current pandemic while the "less affluent" countries had to eat dust.
You gotta admit, the art direction on this film is incredible. I’m getting echoes of anime designs with a few video game design references as well. The Elysium station’s design reminds me of the colony stations from Gundam Wing and the Endless Waltz OVA, while the military transport that Kruger uses echoes the design of the Pelican dropships from the Halo games. Unintentional fan service? Maybe.
Also, Neil Blompkamp was gonna direct a Halo film with Weta providing the visual effects. This was before the production fell through due to budget conflicts.
I got this Japanese theme. Anime vibe also
Missing sin: this movie appears to be a complex Obamacare commercial.
This movie apparently wants us to regard "the rich" as the villains just because they had the nerve to want to preserve their own lives and comfort in the face of a worldwide apocalyptic meltdown while others lacked the means that they had to do so. Because in classic liberal hollywood fashion it is apparently better for everyone to be poor and destitute than for most people to be poor and destitute while some are rich. It's like opposite propaganda from Atlas Shrugged.
RepublicofEthan And also because they deport visitors, because it's not like a man-made satellite has a limited supply of space and oxygen that isn't capable of accommodating the entire human population or anything.
RepublicofEthan
your world is black and white?
KCRyder No, the movie's world is black and white.
hunterspride18
I agree, but what does that have to do with my question?
you forgot to mention how the fuck do they still have a nissan GTR when its made around 2008 :P love that car its a beast!
according to this movie, NO ONE lives on Elysium...because no one is ever home, is there some big orgy going on that we missed out on?
9:28 "I'm not doing 'Get help'!" *Does "Get Help."*
Wagon wheel design spinning is the only plausible method of artificial gravity. That said I did not like the movie and the centrifugal force would not have held in the air as shown in the movie due to the pressure differential.
Except for the part where they have artificial gravity, as evidenced by the non-spinning space ships, so it's still completely unnecessary.
+HiddenWindshield We're only ever shown people walking around inside the spaceships when the ships are in the same frame of reference as a surface with gravity, right?
Yeah I don't like the open air thing either. The rest is ok though. Like if the station from 2001 was a gated community
Great stuff. The one major thing it missed was that Jodie Foster was playing Margaret Thatcher in this movie, which was a joke of hers that seems to have gotten under the radar for American audiences.
For those who studied Thatcher, or lived under her, it did seem quite obvious... But why make her speak in French then?
how does that allegory make any sense?
What allegory?
Because 'Murica and who gives a shit about her? Y'all would be speaking German right now had somebody not stepped in.
furthurondown You Septics are so precious with your delusion that you single-handedly won WW2. If any one nation can be said to have won WW2, it'd be Russia, not 'Murka.
Love that u mentioned gattica, that is one of the best Sci fi movies of all time.
One thing I've noticed about this movie is that a very important billionaire person gets 2 robotic guards to guard him. That's it. Plus, he didn't even get those protective bullet shield on his plane to avoid getting shot. Also, the Elysium's main place doesn't have any robotic guards in it to stop them. It took the robotic guards 20-some minutes to arrive even tho there's a factory making robotic figures.
Do some highly critically acclaimed movies. Forest Gump, Shawshank Redemption, The Godfather, etc...
they did Red October, spiderman 1&2, Hunger games, The avengers, Life of pi, Django unchained, those were quite highly acclaimed, not shawshank levels but still quite high
Johan Hoekstra Yeah, I know they've done some very good films, but I wanted to see some for the the best movies of all time. Also, was the Hunger Games movie highly acclaimed? I liked it, but I felt the movie had a lot of plot holes and the concepts like sponsorship were poorly explained.
Forrest Gump wasn't highly acclaimed and its very weak rating of 72 % on Rotten Tomatoes (for a Best Picture winner at least) proves that. It's rather massively popular, but it wasn't loved by critics across the board. Sometimes several Oscars (especially in major categories) can give such a wrong impression about how much critics actually liked the film (the same goes for Braveheart and Gladiator - both highly criticized for historical inaccuracy - and to a lesser extent for Titanic). That said, I'd love to see an Everything wrong with Forrest Gump... vid. Doubt Cinemasins (despite its motto "no movie is without sin") will touch an untouchable (pun intended) classic like the Godfather, though.
Tom Waits It's 14th on imdb
Tom Waits It got an 8.8 out of 10 on IMDb (which is extremely rare), which is arguably more credible than Rotten Tomatoes.
The second I heard "game theory" the first thing that came to mind is "BUT HEY, THAT'S JUST A THEORY, A GAME THEROY!"
Star Dragon **Two *Gunshots**
I thought of Doogie Howser and Starship Troopers.
Well, thats actually sad, if instead of a grand chapter of mathematics, which took hundred years to form, by tousend of mathematicians, people think of some puny channel on some website... pathetic
Hello everyone and welcome to game theory
How fast is Sonic? But that's just a theory. A game theory!!
0:21 Actually, wheel design is necessary to have artificial gravity. *minus one sin*
"sudden mysterious migraine gives Kruger a chance to catch up"😂
YES!!! Finally, I've been waiting to see you do this. COME ON BIG MONEH!!
And it was torn apart beautifully.
If the movie was supposed to have analogies to modern day problems of poverty and illegal immigration, it was hard to really spot a good reason why the peoples of earth wouldn't be able to higher their standards of living on their own. They just seem to go about spray painting on stuff.
People in real life can't just "get" better living conditions. You have no idea what poverty is.
TheWoodaba
Why can't people in real life just get better living conditions? It's only technology that allows us to have it comfortable. And as such installing such technologies is people just getting better living conditions.
Poverty is living under anarchy and constant strife in my opinion. These are things that restrain progress.
Herrera saurus
Yeah, you really don't have any idea what poverty is. I imagine you've lived your entire life in a comfortable middle class home. There are many, many, reasons why people can't get better living conditions. First and foremost is money. How does someone make money? Through a job. How do you get better jobs? Through education. What does Education cost? Money. Thereby, if you lack money, you're unlikely to be able to improve your social standing in any meaningful way.
People can't just "get" better living conditions. Stop being so closed-minded.
TheWoodaba
I wonder how you can be so sure what poverty is yourself. Because you come off as very arrogant and rude, and wont write why you feel the need to be that way. I'm thinking you argue from emotion rather than reason now. Poor argumentation indeed.
But anyway, when it comes to poverty you can't explain it as if it's an individual problem.
You need to educate or share knowledge with a large group of people. Money you can get from discovering a natural resource in your country or where you happen to live.
If we're talking about African poverty now, look up when OPEC was created and made the price of oil constant. They pumped western oil money money back into the west, and the west loaned African countries loads of money. But a lot of African countries live under anarchy and constant tribal strife (see Rwanda). So poverty is still a thing there.
So yes, better living conditions is something you can just get, via technology and a united society, which African countries unfortunately lack
+Herrera saurus
That's complete nonsense. If that was true, there wouldn't be so much poverty in America, one of the wealthiest countries in the world and, newsflash, a significant portion of the population of the USA live below the poverty line. You view poverty as something so incredibly abstract and widespread that you cannot even consider individual or structural factors that lead to poverty, boiling down everything to "IF A COUNTRY IS POOR THEN THE PEOPLE ARE POOR", as if you got all your knowledge on this topic from fucking Civilization games.
How the fuck does the atmosphere stay inside elysium when it's open to space? That really bugged me.
they put air in all of space, because this is what you can do when you're rich
Well, normally, the spinning space station creates centrifugal force which keeps everything on its feet, thus creates artificial gravity. Since oxygen is subject to gravity as well, it stays inside the half-pipe design of the station. In practice, the space station would have to be much, much bigger in order to keep the oxygen inside it.
the Earth doesn't have a cover also, just open air being pulled in by gravity, air is being pulled by the centrifugal force created by the spinning space station, like when you spin a cup of water around with a string
NavidIsANoob
I'm not a fancy city sciencemotologist, but from what I've read, Elysium is supposedly - as it is in the magical world of this movie - 34 km wide. So with a radius of roughly 17 km, achieving Earth G should require about 0.23 rpm in angular speed. Now the necessary centrifugal force to hold that atmosphere down will require knowledge of how much air, the mass of the station, and probably the linear speed. Long story, short - as you have said - the bigger the whale is, the slower they'd have to go to achieve the same result. My question would be : If it is an open roof where crafts can park on your space lawn, then what keeps the various types of radiation in space from killing people? I mean. They are sunbathing in some of those scenes. It would take moments to blind a person.
Rechenmaschine Ehh... the atmosphere and Earth's magnetic field I guess? The concept of "atmosphere" staying in place due to centrifugal force is a concept from Ringworld, where a massive, massive ring rotates around a star. With a ring that big, there's enough atmosphere to protect people from radiation, like on Earth. I guess Elysium wanted to do the same with a small version, except it's not realistic at all. Radiation would actually still be a problem.
0:48 I'm guessing you've never owned a Chevy....
having autism, i really appreciate how these videos break down and explain all the visual metaphors i always miss. it makes the movie way more enjoyable to me.
I actually really liked this movie, despite some large flaws.
I just thought it was weird that Delacourt just gave up so easily. "I have a nurse standing over me and a medbed not too far, but I think I'll give up."
Because she's made to be cartoonishly evil on purpose. "Bah, I'd rather die than have this inferior peasant heal me!", all she needed was a moustache to twirl.
Wagon wheel design is not without reason, that's how they create gravity, by spinning it
Exept you would need wals hundreds of miles tall to keep the air in to justify it being open to space.
@@miles2378 yeah that's because of the futuristic force field tech that movie failed to mention except for a scene which kruger has personal shield. MovieSins sinned that one I guess.
The spinning doesn't "create" gravity, being as gravity comes from the mass of objects. It "simulates" gravity using centripetal force.
@ReaktorLeak both mean the same thing dude
@ReaktorLeak Google centrifugal and centripetal
I liked this movie, its not as good as District 9; but really entertaining. And Kruger was the best part of it, who would know that Wikus can be so evil and badass?! "Its just a flesh wound!!!" Love him!:)
BOOONESAW IS READYYY!
Glad you were able to get it back up. Let's hope it stays up. (cue Viagra joke)
haha
Commenter makes a cheap sex joke. *ding*
Slayer Jesse It didn't start out as one - I swear - but was too obvious to pass up. Still a _ding_.
"Elysium is America, I get it"
try australia bro
You do realize that a "cartwheel" design for a space station is actually the most practical possible layout. The inhabitants occupy the outermost ring, and the station rotates to provide artificial gravity in the form of centrifugal force. I don't know why you call that "unnecessary".
You _should_ know why he called in unnecessary...
Centrifugal force is not an actual force, and the sensation it stimulates is an outward tug. You were thinking of centripetal force, and even with that, there is no way to create artificial gravity.
Beta Bair
Actually in a rotating reference frame centrifugal force appears clear as day. The OP was quite reasonable to refer to it as artificial gravity.
But centrifugal force pulls outward. It would be the opposite of what gravity does. Also, it does not actually exist, it is only a sensation, so it cannot provide a force similar to gravity.
0:20 i think it is a wheel as when it is spinning it creates it's own gravity or something like that.
Yeah, most of the sins that he does now are opinionated, so don't listen to him.
***** I was playing ksp and saw you can do that, and i'm fairly sure that the devs base the phisics off real life. So yeah.
***** What? please expand
***** I hope that is how we build a space station after the ISS is retired.
google "Stanford Torus"
it and its derivatives are the best examples of long term habitation design that does not already rely on other forms of artificial gravity
actually the design of the space station is necessary to establish gravity through centrifugal forces. Its not unnecessary.
also, when elysium is rebooting, you can see master and slave drives.
scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/CentrifugalForce.html
Sorry, no such thing as centrifugal force, its centripetal.
centripetal*
TheJcb630 You post a link and then say it doesn't exist... what?
also to make sure they don't rip off Halo.
Ok the space station in Elysium is actually based on an a real life theoretical concept design known as the "Stanford Torus" that was proposed by NASA in 1975. The shot of Elysium that you see during the title card is actually inspired by a painting that Donal E. Davis did for the interior of the Stanford Torus . The "wagon wheel" design is not unnecessary for the reasons that other have pointed but it is in fact, also scientifically relevant. Also, let's be real, it doesn't mater what the space station looked like, you would find an excuse to sin it anyway.
we haven't had a bonus round in a long time.
Yeah, why is that?
Except in the Dragonball video. Altough i'm not sure if that counts as a bonus round.
Happy Sniphurr That movie was so terrible, he bothered to research exactly why it pissed off the fans. That research driving the counter over 9000 (LOL) totally counts as a bonus round n_n
sirensoundwave yeah, i guess you're right. man, that movie really sucked. Totally deserved a bonus round.
There was a long ass one in the Dragonball video
9:20 you missed one: An accidental crash is in no way an act of war and even if Foster's character tries to claim it was an intentional attack, she has no evidence to back that up
These "everything wrong with" gets longer and longer, nothing bad about it or...maybe the movies makes more mistakes and get worse?
Corvo!
Right?
Or CinemaSins gets better and better in finding mistakes or question weird plotpoints. Eitherway, it's cool... ^^
***** I've always wondered what would happen if they redid one of their beginning videos and how much longer they could probably make it.
I think part of it is because in his earlier videos, each sin would be short, sarcastic, and witty. Now, he seems to rant a lot longer for a lot of the sins.
Bob Bobby Yep. Short, sarcastic, and witty >> Rants
Man, hold on. You meant to say that Kruger is played by an actor, Sharlto Copley, who used to play Wikus van de Merwe from District 9?
Forgot one sin "how giving an overpopulated planet better life saving care will not solve the overpopulation problem" ping
becasue then people wouldnt die anymore??!! making it even worst a problem
People dying won't solve overpopulation.
Think about how much culture we got that promotes & glorifies reproduction.
Instead of culling the herd, how about you stunt population growth instead?
Overpopulation is a serious problem, but any attempt to "solve"it will surely fail.
The most productive thing you can do for an overpopulated planet (which is pretty unlikely to occur, the earth is massive we just condense ourselves in cities) is accommodate them. Build more cities, mine more resources, develops alternatives to current lack of resources... And finally focus on sustainable energy, like fusion or solar power.
Really overpopulation isn't an actual problem. There's plenty of space, people just pile on in the small area.
#ThanosWasRight
do everything wrong with tropic thunder plz !
The one movie without sin?
haha nah there is .. i could spot some visually ;) ( don't get me wrong i love it !)
Lol i agree, no sins
Is that a comedy technically? I don't think Cinema Sins can quite rightly do comedies.
Atlas Morgan
xD
Biggest flaw that no one else has seemed to notice in this movie: Everyone on Elysium has a healing bed in their house, so therefore all those ships filled with healing beds are sitting around and collecting dust instead of helping the people on Earth.
I guess (I know this is an old comment but I’m shocked no one said this) it’s to show how selfish they are
Maybe its to save a trip if their own get hurt on earth?
@That Dude
I know your comment is old,
But I think it was a political statement, elysium being America and not helping the illegal poors across the borders.
And while you’re right about public figures and virtue signaling for moral superiority, they’d probably just help 1 family, make a big deal of it, then keep the peasants working slave wages, crowded apartments, indebted to the system that they profit so well off of lol.
There are still working 110 year old Model Ts. And the Cubans have made 1950s Chevies run for 70 years. It’s entirely possible someone could keep a 1990 Chevy truck running if that’s the only transport available. It might be running on some sort of scavenged high tech electric motor or something (Cubans liked to put Soviet tractor diesels in theirs).
"Unnecessary wagon wheel space station design" isn't actually that unnecessary, it spins to simulate gravity.
Do Snowpiercer!!!!!!! All those carts FULL of sin.... and notice how the kindergarden-cart is waaaaaaaaaay in the back.... it's just FULL of sins!!!!!
In fact, I am willing to bet I can find MORE sins in this one that YOU can, HAH!
.....but it's funnier when YOU do it....
Snowpiercer is flawless.
At least Snowpiercer was watchable, had good performances, interesting characters/character depth and some decent action. Elysium is unwatchable.
Who cares if it was watchable? That's not the point at all. I just think it would be lots of fun to tally up all the sins.
Also.... NO movie is without sin!
Actually it might be possible the movie is stolen from a german Point and Click Adventure called "Deponia". In the game you play Rufus. A guy living on Deponia, a planet full of trash and stuff and he wants to escape from his dirty home to a city in the clouds called Elysium where it is like heaven in comparison to Deponia.
Seems like the same damn story to me.
"The movie is stolen"... it's just a basic idea
The devs of Deponia make really good stuff.
Thanks to this comment I discovered a great game! Had a blast playing trough the whole journey!
The Deponia game series is fantastic!
2:01 It's called "Being on-call"...they give you a nostalgia inducing pager/beeper to carry.
the stupidest thing about this movie was that you were supposed to care about the plight of the people on earth and dislike the people on elysium. but i was like fuck the people of earth theyre so overpopulated its their fault. and its not like elysium is on earth taking up all this room that the poor people cant go into, its in space. power to them for building something that will make some peoples lives good whilst having literally no negative impact on the people below. and they complain about not having the magic healing machines? the populations is already massive, but you want to save more people?
This movie was a political message about socialism, an idea that i buy into. But if we're being honest, sheer self preservation in a dystopian future like that would mean of course I would flee earth and live in a giant wheel thing
Chris Allum It was more along the lines of facism.
This is a terrible thing for me to say but sometimes i think it would be terrible if there was a cure to a lot of diseases because the population is already out of control, we actually need ppl to die!!
Tara Shaw easy for you to say, you wanna be the first to volunteer?
+Tara Shaw
You are an idiot.
We don't need people to die. We just need ways to improve the rate at which we can produce food and other such basic necessities. We also need to better improve our distributions of such resources in other to help the less fortunate.
The world have plenty of room for humanity to grow, we just need to utilize it more efficiently.
3: Actually, that space station is designed to provide artificial gravity, so it is necessary
0:18 video requires you to pause it in order to understand sin *ding*
The "wagon" design is actually a more accurate representation of gravity in space. Because of the moving ring, gravity is able to be artificially generated via centrifugal motion
Ok, so most of these are not mistakes or bad script or directing. And honestly, if you don't like the movie, why watch it so many time? Give me a perfect script for a movie like this. There is none. This is as close to a great sci-fi movie as it can get
Uhh you do know he gets paid to do this
are you mad or nah?
he never said they were bad movies, he is pointing out bad things in them giving the point "No movie is without sin" a mean, he has done some of his favorite films before
Really? this is your idea of a great sci-fi movie?
you must be new to this channel
Jodie Foster did such a bad job in th movie. And that stupid pro-immigration message was almost as bad as avatar. I hate these artsy directors/writers trying to make themselves look like champions of the poor while they get ridiculously rich off lousy movies like this.
"pro-immigration message was almost as bad as avatar" ok I'm stumped where exactly is that in avatar, unless of course your referring to the way the movies show their messages.
What both movies lacked was duality in both sides. Avatar had the military side so blatantly obviously evil while Elysium did the same with the rich Elysium people. Both needed some of the "bad" characters to show some decency so the audience doesn't 100% hate them.
It was pretty laughable when Cameron talked about deforesting and corporate greed like they they were subtle concepts he was peppering in to Avatar.
Avatar was anti-globalization and pro-eco, I agree with the rest of your post htough
I'm looking forward to animated sins tomorrow!
Wasn't "The Loneliest Robot In Great Britain" the first animated sins video?
***** I think someone already did Frozen.
JayHog1992
Well, someone had also already done a EWW Dragonball Evolution, and then CinemaSins did it.
Kimani Wilson-Hunte I suppose but it was more of a joke i think
Animated sins at last! :)
So happy u do ur videos differently today
Sharlto Copley makes me a very happy person. I don't even know why. His success just pleases me.
Why go through the trouble of going to Elysium to use one of the those miracle healing machines when you could easily hack into a computer from Elysium to get the blue-prints for one and then this wild goose chase to go to Elysium would have been completely avoided.
.. and then we don't have this movie ;)
Exactly!!!
Are you stupid? People of 21st century live in shacks, you really think they would be able to construct a machine capable of completely reconstructing a man's head?
The Point I'm trying to get across is that the movie was complete shit. The Plot had so many holes in it that it would be more than enough to fill the Albert Hall.
*****
They had space shuttles, modern computers and modern military technology. I'd say maybe they should invest less in weapons and more in medical supplies and they would be OK.
I havent seen Elysium and most of what is critizised in this video seems justified...but, damn, this movie is beautiful.
the wagon wheel design is actually important. in order to simulate gravity the station needs to spin, and depending on the speed and distance from the center will determine how strong the gravity is.
I believe that the unnecessary wheel design actually provides gravity. I can't remember.
It does. Its rotation simulates gravity which allows them to stay on the surface.
Yeah. The centripetal force caused by the outer walls on the people inside acts as an adjustable gravitational force. Its basically a really slow, really big centrifuge ride at the carnival.
Ripping off Halo should've been a sin
Omglosser To be fair, Halo kind of ripped it off Ender's Game. And Ringworld. And Physics. You know that new big ball thingie that they were in come Halo 4 (And Halo Wars)? Dyson Sphere. Bungie/343 did its homework.
***** dude, halo has been around before elysium and enders game
Space station wheel design isn't unnecessary, it's spinning slowly and it's how they have gravity.. :P
I guess Cinema Sins failed physics. :D
***** Five minutes of paying attention to MIDDLE SCHOOL science and you wouldn't have needed to google, but since you insist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotating_wheel_space_station
Not only are you incredibly ignorant, but a stupid rude trolling ass. Gravity also is not a mystery to science, only to you. Scientists know a lot about it and it's fundamental to all physics. If they didn't understand it, there would be no planes, rockets, etc. It's been understood in a basic form since Newton in the 1600's (sorry, you'd need to actually learn something in school to know that.) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_law_of_universal_gravitationen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_law_of_universal_gravitation
***** Retire to your ignorant bridge troll. No one asked you to begin with, and yes, you had no clue. buffoon.
***** No, you make me appreciate that I'm not stupid. Thanks :D
Nike Som-Anya And another troll who can't even spell. Bravo. Such a demonstration of intellect and charm.
Wait wait wait, the wagon-wheel isn't unnecessary, that's how they generate artificial gravity. Duh. I thought everyone knew that.
I thought it was how they moved the Island.
Chewable Jim Not if it's knocked off its axis, then it won't turn.
since its a sci fi movie, there are plenty of ways to design the station to look less ridiculous, and deliver the same point
Leonid Saykin
It doesn't look ridiculous to people with a clue. If they'd implemented some other form of artificial gravity, then they'd have to explain it, and that would take time away from the plot. Better to just go with realism that everyone understands, and leave it at that.
You forgot my favorite part.
The radiation chamber detects organic tissue and *DOESNT STOP*
Then the dumbass coworkers try to pry open a radiation blast door made of fucking mega lead, meant to protect whoever is on the outside from potential radiation leak.
While the emergency stop button is right next to them.
"this movie is like (insert every random movie title you can muster) but with ...more robots!"
Jeff Borders a Dumb sin, that and sinning logos
Kruger's accent was by far the biggest sin in this movie
Don't you want a waffe? ;)
Do you even know what accent it is?
Git to hand it to you sir: you certainly have a way with words! It's almost worth having silliness in movies so you can have a crack at them! It seems each Movie sin tally is funnier than the previous one!
Kudos! ;-)
that wheel shape is actually quite practical considering the centirfugal rotation creates a simuluar effect as gravity.
Uploading stuff directly into head taken from Johnny Mnemonic.
Actually the wagon wheel design was needed for artificial gravity
Elysium in a nut shell: Poor people are Jesus, Rich People are the Devil.
Not even close.
That's Hobo's mindset right there. ;P
For the record with regular routine maintenance a Chevy Silverado can basically run for 1000 years.
The problem with this film was it wasn't a film, it was a really poorly done propaganda piece for universal health care. It was a rushed class warfare \ healthcare piece. Not that those are bad or wrong, but if you are going to do a piece like that it has to have a great amount of craft and sincerity. To Kill a Mockingbird, both as a book and a film do it right. This is like the infomercial of propaganda works. It's thin, transparent, juvenile, and well... cheap. The Day After Tomorrow is it's spouse and another shining example of a poorly done propaganda work. Same with Avatar. It has it's place, nothing wrong with a film trying to sell an idea, but you have to put the work in to make it a sophisticated work that engages people rather then a thin lecture.
Idgarad Lyracant _"Same with Avatar. It has it's place, nothing wrong with a film trying to sell an idea, but you have to put the work in to make it a sophisticated work that engages people rather then a thin lecture."_
But Avatar DID engage people. It made over 2 billion in the box office and has legions of fans world wide. No other film, not 'To Kill A Mockingbird' or any of YOUR favorite films ever did that. Looks like Cameron doesn't need pointers from you on how to improve his movies.
No Avatar entertained people. Dances with Wolves did a far better job at engaging people with the same topic.
Idgarad Lyracant A movie can't entertain if it doesn't engage the audience and draw them into its world. You sure we understand the word 'engage' here?
***** I think you missed the purpose of the word engage. It means 'engage the person in the message it's getting across'. Avatar engaged viewers in making them entertained, but they did terribly at engaging the audience in it's message. It's not moving or anything, it's just another overrated, overhyped, CGI filled, futuristic, adventure movie
You do realize that this movie was made based off of a graphic novel right? A graphic novel based on the cyberpunk genre.
I've seen the movie twice and I still don't know what the hell kind of accent Jodie Foster was shooting for in this thing. :)
Marshall Banana Take your word for it. I thought she might be doing some really bad British type accent or something but I could never exactly nail it down. At one point I decided it was one of those 'sci-fi' dialects where they mix the accents of different areas together. That or something like that awful Will Smith movie with his kid in it. :)
Marshall Banana Oh yeah he did didn't he. :) I always describe Bane from the Nolan movies as sounding like Elmer Fudd trying to do a really bad German accent. :)
In the comics he has a Spanish accent but since they changed his backstory I guess they thought that one made more sense. It really didn't but whatever. :)
I also read they had to dub his voice because what they got on set wasn't working.
Marshall Banana I guess so. I do remember them having issues with what they used (I don't know if they decided they didn't like it or if he was just hard to hear/understand through that mask) so they came up with the one in the movie.
The more I think about it I think a full on Vader type thing would've worked much better. Maybe next time around.
***** Did she succeed I only ask because I have no idea.
Tara Shaw I didn't know that was a thing. :)
Peter Jackson and Neil Blomkamp were going to make a Halo movie
Unfortunately that got scrapped and turned into District-9
A lot of the pre-production of Halo was put into District-9 & Elysium So thats why theres is so much Gadget porn in these movies. And why Elysium kinda looks like the Halo ring.
I doubt that's why it has the ring shape considering it has a rather different design from Halo and the props used on this movie lack any similarity to those throughout the Halo series.
***** The weapons are very similar to what we see in the Halo series, different but extremely similar, come on? The freaking robots and the force field the guys uses look very similar to what we see in Halo. I thinks he did that in respect to the halo franchise, look it up, District-9 was going to be Halo before the studio backed out.
Jimmy De'Souza There Armour on the robots
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PS : I love your out-take lip-syncs... that takes more time no doubt than your whole videos?