USB & MIDI: Everything you need to know to get it right (USB MIDI Host vs Interface explained)
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Here are some USB MIDI Hosts I've not tried (affiliate links help the channel):
► MIDIPLUS: amzn.to/2F0t7xU
► ExcelValley: amzn.to/2ETjdxP
► Kenton: amzn.to/2F5pGH9
► iConnectivity Mio 4: amzn.to/2XPv0G6
► RK005: www.retrokits.com/shop/rk005/
► BomeBox (non affiliate): bit.ly/BomeBox
Prefer to buy on Thomann? Search for USB MIDI Host or interface here:
► bit.ly/Thomann-Loopop
Note: The hobbytronics USB MIDI Host is no longer available unfortunately
Free Mac Patch Bay software shown in the video:
► MIDI PATCH BAY: notahat.com/midi_patchbay/
USB MIDI interface cables:
► Roland UM-ONE USB MIDI interface - imp.i114863.net/ZkO9Q
► iConnectivity Mio - amzn.to/2NY1Ksg
► This one is cheaper and seems well rated on Amazon: amzn.to/2HQwhbo
A few Raspberry Pi tutorials:
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Check out this cool touch screen interface for RPi as USB HOST by Georgios Giannoutsos Barkas: github.com/nuc/Midi-Connector
Here's a link to Yamaha's Bluetooth to 5 PIN MIDI adapter: amzn.to/2F9g1Q9
Other gear used in the video:
► Novation Circuit: amzn.to/2XRW2Ne
► Maschine Mikro MK3: On Amazon (amzn.to/2pgqEb6) or direct from NI (might save you on taxes depending where you are): bit.ly/MikroMK3
► Komplete M32: from Amazon (amzn.to/2EsTagK) or direct from NI (bit.ly/Komplete-M32)
► The wireless bluetooth keyboard is XKEY Air 25 (amzn.to/2NZYvk2) and there's a 37 key version (amzn.to/2O3zwwk)
Other places I hang out:
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► Web: loopopmusic.com
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My music:
► Bandcamp: loopop.bandcamp.com
► Spotify: bit.ly/LoopopOnSpotify
► Apple Music:bit.ly/LoopopOnAppleMusic
TIMELINE:
0:00 USB MIDI problems
1:00 Regular 5 PIN MIDI
1:30 USB: host & device
1:50 The device problem
3:00 Host vs. interface
3:40 Standalone hosts
5:00 Plugging it in right every time
6:30 Hooking it up
7:20 Using Raspberry Pi
7:50 BomeBox & others
8:20 Computer as host
9:50 Manipulating MIDI
10:10 Wireless MIDI
11:50 More MIDI tips
Submit review and video ideas here (sorry I don’t offer 1x1 sessions/setup/purchasing advice):
► Ziv (at) loopopmusic.com
NOTE: Occasionally I’ll try out affiliate marketing and include affiliate links. This means that I may earn a commission when you click on or make purchases via affiliate links. The content of this clip is entirely my opinion, and was not paid for or dictated in any way by the company creating the gear. Without addressing the particulars of products shown here as they might be under NDA, gear shown on this channel may be either sent by the manufacturer, on loan for review or bought at a discount.
As a new comer to making electronic music (something that I have wanted to do for many years) I have found that the amount of information surrounding kit is bewildering. Equipment manufacturers are really not the best at explaining things. So, I am so glad to have discovered your channel. Your explanations are simple, very clear, and never patronizing to newbies. Thank you so much and keep up the excellent work.
I mean once you get done experience you know what exactly you need so you see past branding and manufacturing to the core properties and electronics
It is a journey and there is a lot to learn along the way, and yes thankfully there are Chads and Legends like Loopop who are out there guiding people along like Virgil transporting passengers along the river styx.
"You get to keep your ball."
Your videos are always supremely informative and onto it, but every now and then, you throw in these wonderful little jokes. I always look forward to when and what the next one will be.
I'm glad this is one of your most viewed videos. People need to know all of this stuff.
This is great. I’d have saved so much time and money had this been all explained so simply to me four years ago. This will be extremely helpful for people. Thank you.
Thank you so much for this explanation. I just spent two hours in Media Markt this morning and nobody could explain me that a MIDI host is needed for my purpose. I'm glad that I walked out with empty hands. Great video!
Dude I spent like two days trying to figure out how to get my Novation Launch Control XL to talk to my TR-8S and MC-707. I was getting so frustrated trying to figure out how to make it work. THANK YOU! I thought I would be able to do this with just my MOTU but I never found any USB merging options. All the forums I found doing a google search just said "Use a computer" well I was, but I didn't find a single post that talked about having to use MIDI routing software. I downloaded the MIDI Patchbay software you mentioned and was able to start controlling my TR-8S, it was so simple!
You nailed it! I thought I knew a thing or two about MIDI, but you taught me wrong. For the first time I now get an idea of how I should set up my four MIDI devices on my own by making use of your tricks and hints. Plus, the video is very well made, and that does not just refer to the clear picture, great camera setup and the clear audio, but also to the permanent timeline tabs on the left. Absolutely brilliant stuff, thank you so much for making and sharing. Subscribed :-)
Ziv. I really appreciate the time you've taken to provide this information. I have accumulated 40 years of midi keyboards and devices and still have something to learn. I will definitely share this with all my midi friends. Thank you. Ange C
For a newb like me this is golden 👍🏾 Thanks for sharing. For someone who obviously has a deep understanding of these things, u have a great way of explaining and demonstrating it to viewers without assuming any prior knowledge 👏🏾 This saved me hours, if not days of head scratching 🙏🏾
This is the video I’ve been looking for for years. Thank you so much!
Needed this video forever! Thank you so much for making it!! This is why I'm happy to be your patreon supporter!
You nailed it! Great video! I had the same issue when trying to slave my BeatStep to my BeatStep Pro without using a computer; a USB/MIDI host just like the one you showed solved the problem. Glad to see this info is out there, I am sure it will help a lot of people.
The organization of this content and clear timestamps is wonderful.
I had to face this problem 3 weeks ago when I bought a Prophet desktop synth. I realized that most of professionals in music stores had no idea about it and were confusing usb to midi cable and midi host. In the US I finally found a midiplus midi host on Amazon. Works perfectly but was hard to find 😱.
Very good video ! :)
Your content is just amazing. Great video editing, great flow, and you definitely have that "interesting teacher's voice" we want to listen to 😎 This particular video on midi is a life saver as it clears up a lot of crazy confusion regarding midi over usb. Amazing job 👍
Thank you for all the videos you make, taking time to explain everything properly. This did clear up a question a lot off us had. Keep up the good work!
All your videos are so good man. Keep up the great work. You're like the go-to music gear tutorial spot for me on youtube.
Im ... Amazed. Lost my words somewhere in the clip. The only reason im making a post i to congrats you for the wonderful job done here and how awesome that tutorial is! Amazing!
I have been a MIDI maniac since 1987.... Yamaha PSS-480! which was a fantastic mini keyboard that transmitted & Received, on all 16 channels. Using a QX-21 then a Brother PDC-100. I miss In/Out/Thru...
Yes I am old school! Now in my 60's... Peace and Thanks!
Very good. Love the depth and breadth you go into for each vid.
Thank you so much for making such a good and intuitive video! I watched it again and again everytime I running into trouble to hook something up.
Thank you! I was perplexed by the multiple MIDI ports on my SLMk iii (as I've been out of the midi loop for years) but your vid answered all my questions. Now I don't to write the manufacturer, who likely wouldn't respond in any event. Great job, sir!
Great video for both beginners and professionals!
OMG what a video!
This is the best video in youtube or anywhere else (for musicians, composers, songwriters, music producers, beat-makers, sound designers, sound and recording engineers, etc etc) in this planet. Period.
This guy can be the director of the video department in Yamaha, Roland, and all music electronics companies at the same time!!!
This was a great video. It answered many of my questions, involving usb and midi, that I was struggling to find answers for. That includes questions I had about my own gear. I now know how i can use my Casio cdp-s100 digital piano as a controller for my Korg Volca Keys synth with a midi/usb host. Im very excited about this. I didnt even know if it was possible until I watched this video. Thanks for the help!
I’m trying to use my Volca Keys as well! Are you using a computer? Or a separate usb/midi host?
timely, as i was just looking at my rpi0 and remembered i intended it to act as a usb midi host between keyboard & synth... well explained as always x
Thanks for showing us how to keep our ball :) ... great work as always mate!
Love your videos mate - best channel I've found this month :)
Thank you for clearing up my understanding between host vs. midi to midi connection, now I know what type of cable to buy for my midi drums.
Thanks for this! I was having trouble understanding language between devices, this helped a lot clearing doubts.
Sir, I am so glad this TH-cam algorithm finally steered me to this, as I have been researching MIDI like a madman for a week. You've just kept me from wasting even more time and money. Beautifully explained....I now 'get it'. Thank you very much. You bet, I 'liked' and 'subscribed'.
Thanks to you I was able to order the correct controller keyboard, one w/ legacy MIDI as I want to trigger a bass synth module. I almost bought a controller w/ MIDI over USB thinking I could use a Roland UM1.......but now I know about device/host w/ USB. BTW: I am not even a keyboard player, I'm just putting together a small studio for people to come over and jam or write. You not only saved me money but a major headache. Much appreciated.
Great insights. Gives a full comprehensive tour. Now you can choose what you like best.
The "snap" transitions are so smooth!
Brother, you really are the best!!!
Keep on making our lives easier :)
Thx for giving all of the simple, solid and USEFUL information with vids like this.
learned in this channel most of the knowledge I needed so I could then explore and expand on my own in so many different subjects (digitakt for example and others)
Cheers to you!
I'm very happy when I learn something new ( the Yamaha wireless midi device); it may have been out for years, but I wasn't aware of its existence, I really needed one, about thirty year ago thanks for the info, because I still have my Yamaha KX5! Great presentation my friend!
If your keyboards and synths are “class compliant “ meaning you can use them on your computer, without installing a driver for them,
You can plug them into a usb hub, then into an iPad , with camera adapter kit, to record/playback and rout your MIDI signals to the attached devices.
If you already have an iPad/iPhone you can use as a host, an inexpensive USB hub, can be a very powerful USB midi merging, splitting, filtering and routing option.
Interesting. Shame the camera kit is so damn flimsy.
Essential stuff! I was dying for a video like this about a year ago when all these connections seemed so mysterious! Thanks!
Top stuff, really good info.
Superb info, as always. Thank you LP!
Great Vid! I miss my old hardware Sequencers (Yamaha QX-21, QX-5 and Brother PDC-100 32 track, 64 macro) sometimes modern DAW's get in the way of the music flow... I am still getting used to that.
One of the reasons I love the mpc live so much! It can support up to two midi devices over usb
Great video, thanks. Cleared up a few questions I had, everything is much clearer now!
Very thoughtful, well structured, and full of relevant information! Great channel, you help me getting further 😉 Thanks, dude! 👍
Conductive Labs' MRCC (MIDI Routing Control Center) is an excellent modern option (2022). They even have a couple of more affordable units coming as well. Maybe even worth updating this video for. Thanks for your continued work educating us!
Excellent video on MIDI connectivity, both informative & concise. I'll be sure to link your video to anyone I come across with MIDI gear uncertainties.
Awesome video!!! I have one idea.. you could like colour the timestamps that are already behind, so you would know where you are. Just an idea! Thanks for your vids I love them!!!!
Awesome, Thanks a Ton! Really well done.
Comprehensive and Inclusive in every way.
Keep it up. Loved it.
Thank you for this video! After viewing this I purchased the MIDI host from Hobbytronics. Works great and was about $60.
Now I can use my Nektar controller, which only has the USB port with my Roland Boutiques, IPad, QY70, etc.
Thank you for FINALLY explaining it all! (It's surprisingly hard to google for this level of detail, which explains the confusion out there.)
Your voice and vocal cadence are so soothing. Very much reminiscent of cgp grey. And the info is presented well, just like cgp grey.
Thanks for doing the youtube thing, your videos are super helpful.
Just jumped into the dawless pool and this was struggling. This video was the life preserver I needed. THANK YOU!
Thank you! Very important video, I will be referring people to it for years to come, I'm sure. 😍
Why can’t everyone doing a ‘how to’ video explain it as clearly as you! I had exactly this question but the info was more confusing. Excellent.
Loopop is the best in the business.
THANK YOU! I just got a Moog Minitaur today and once I figured out how to use it with my MIDI keyboard I thought, "do I really have to pass this through the computer?" Glad to know that not only are there much more portable solutions out there but also that the basic logic of working with MIDI devices is much simpler than it seems.
Thanks for the detailed explanation now i know. I ordered the MIDIPLUS through your link , hope it helps .
I vote that you should make all the how too videos on TH-cam! You have mastered the manner and detail. Thanks.
Excellent, always clear, I learn so much from your videos.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Brilliant! Thats an amazing way to communicate so much info in ten minutes! Thank you :-)
I'm just now getting into hardware synths and bless you for this!!!
Oh thank you man, that was so helpful, finally someone sums it all up what I needed but never understood. This is a real TH-cam moment😂
Don't ever stop, loopop!
glad i found your vid. got a new rack mount and saw your Arturia keystep and immediately grabbed on on sweetwater. thank you sir.
Once again you are very helpful! A true source of inspiration and help! A big thank you
Very good instructional! You are to be commended!
I have an iconnectivity mio 10, its awesome, I have my 40year old vintage gear retrofitted with midi connnected with my mac, drum machines, and ipad all talking to each other seamlessly
The USB-Which-Side-Where-Puzzle is finally resolved. Thank you Loopop!
This is actually the only reason I like USB-C. Finally someone was thinking about the user! Ok, the speed improvement isn‘t too bad either. Perhaps it is also worthwhile to mention the ESI M4U/M8U which is also a fab USB 3.0 MIDI-Interface. (I dont have stakes in it).
This is, as usual, an excellent explanation
Thank you so much for your reply. Your tip on how I might connect an Android phone to a piano using a USB A adapter is very highly appreciated.
This is so helpful and so clear - thank you! Time to next 10 pieces of midi gear :)
Thanks for making this video. It helped me a lot. I was struggling to connect a controller to a mini synth.
For hardware I went with the lazy option of a Roland MX-1, lots of Roland gear on USB, USB to PC, and then a USB/Midi hub to connect Launchpads, etc. THE USB/MIDI hub also goes into a standard powered USB hub which allows for connection to an iPad. I don’t know how it all works, but it does. The Yamaha Bluetooth MIDI is great too.
thank you. utility vids, especially basic ones are the hardest to come by! that was valuable. another idea for a tutorial would be how to organise multiple devices in a work flow, the logic of multiple devices in relation to clock and midi channels through midi patchbays.... this is the nightmare limiting my progress....if anyone could do it---it's the loopop..pop..op... Again, your hard work is appreciated. D
Hi, thanks, great Video again. I use the Mode Machines Cerebel USB (the cheapest USB MIDI Host I found) , works great to connect my novation LAUNCH CONTROL XL to my novation CIRCUIT
Very helpful - thank you. I had overlooked the distinction between hosts and devices!
Such a useful video. The USB trick alone could be a valuable tip all by itself:) But the USD-MIDI thing has bewildered me for a while! Coincidentally I have the same Keith McMillen K-Board as you have in this video, and have been wondering how to connect it directly to f.e. my Moog Minitaur.
This is a confusing topic that's difficult to figure out on one's own. Thanks for helping me understand some key facts!
Wow. Right on the money! This is EXACTLY what i was fishing for/wanted to have explained
Awesome !! Thanks that was exactly what i was looking for...
Super helpful and thorough explanation
This guy knows everything. 👍👏👏👏👏
Super informative, thanks Ziv! 🔌
MIDI Host/Device is exactly the information I was missing. I now know how to get my M-Audio keystation to control my Yamaha reface CP.
Thank you!
This is invaluable information for the beginner (like me). Thank you very much.
Very helpful for a Beginner synth user like me. Thanks!
Thanl you soooooo much! I thought I'd have to buy a whole new keyboard to control my new synth! This video is insanely helpful and comprehensive
I was going to write the same thing, cheers!!!
Thank you so so much! I love this information!! Very well explained! :)
Excellent walkthrough! Thanks! subbed! got a 505 and a vs 880 and some other gear to marry together.. very helpful!
Thank you so much for this video, as MIDI is new to me. I am attempting to connect my Roland MC-101 to MiniLab 3
Wow, great video. excellent explained and all my question around this are answered. thank you very much for this video.
Thanks for this! Very clear explanation! :)
thanks for your videos. love your work.. been intending to get/read your patron pdf’s asap.. a couple of points on this vid: (please correct inaccuracy anyone) 1) usb, particularly micro/mini breaks and falls out easily (solutions are leash’s and camera tape etc) 2) midi over bluetooth is reputed as not being fast enough for rolls/flams? 3) ios rocks as a usb midi host- i like aum with midiflow or streambyter.
Thanks so much! Re your points: 1. You are right. I have found some cables are better than others. 2. True - data can get lost 3. True :)
Where have you been all my post regular midi life? Thank you!!!!
Love your work mate, thanks making such cool videos
Great tutorial and well explained. Will be sending my students to you channel. Liked and subscribed
Thank you for this video. This was very helpful!
loopop Thank You for all your videos.
You're doing god's work with this video, bless up.
Very clear explanation, so helpful
Your guides and reviews are first class.
I love this midi one especially as this has answered so many previously searched questions.
This is my new favourite channel.
Just going through the Roland series
Looking for the MC 101?
Thanks and it's there! (I think in a vs 707 video...)
Great video quality, watched even the parts i didn't need