Volla Phone | Using Linux Phone instead of Android or Apple
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 มิ.ย. 2024
- This phone was beyond strange, but so much fun exploring it. Ubuntu Touch has come quite a ways since I looked at it in 2020.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:52 Ubuntu Touch on Volla Phone
01:48 Ubuntu Touch Settings Menu
03:00 Phone and Messaging
03:22 Web Browsing
03:53 Music and Note Apps
04:41 Twitter
05:17 AdBlock
06:10 Navigation
06:58 Tweak Tool for Ubuntu Touch
07:28 Using Ubuntu Touch as a Desktop
10:48 Overview of Volla Phone and Usage .
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Volla OS Video Update (July 2021) - th-cam.com/video/HaSzGMXqPc0/w-d-xo.html
I was hoping for more on the hardware side, but it is still an improvement from last year!
Here was the Linux Phone playlist (Pinephone and misc. linux phone os's): th-cam.com/video/lFELJ3E_-G4/w-d-xo.html
Hi Chris, I live over in Weatherford, you said that calling worked for you, can you confirm that you were able to make phone calls? I've been trying to make phone calls with my volla phone and it doesn't never dails out. Thanks!
Check GPMDP app for Google Music on Linux.
me: oh wow, linux phone, and it can work as a desktop t-
video: I actually made ton of scripts to make it better experience
me: hi windows, hi mac how are you?
The more they make Linux phones, the more hopefully I become that one day I'll be able to use a Linux phone as a daily.
Me too!
Android is Linux already.
@@vitacell1 the kernel has been highly modified.
@@vitacell1 well yes, but actually no...
Everything that is good about linux is not in android. And its propriety sh*t, and its google, need i say more?
Also i think its not counted as linux distro since its not open-sourced, and kernel was altered so much.
@@godfather7339 So, it's not Linux because modified?
Linux-libre, Linux-lowlatency aren't vanilla. But still Linux.
My intention in the future is to use a de-Googled Android phone and a Linux phone, and have all the tech features I like and none of the privacy invasion. I find Android (even de-Googled, rooted Android) is quite a limiting experience. In the good old days, when Android was still in nappies, I was using Nokia N900 and N9 Linux phones, and loved those phones.
"download music like we used to do back in the day" wait what you guys don't..
Have 1000 songs downloaded
Yeah I just don't use any online services, in fact i AM my own service lol
@@kathanshah8305 60,000***
@@bobbybologna3029 I feel you mate
50 gigs on SD. Stream?
Having root read-only by default is the design choice by Canonical, which UBPorts foundation kept intact
Probably smart, getting around it was very easy.
@@ChrisTitusTech it would've been good if canonical kept ubuntu touch i think linux phones would get popular
I believe that I'm those extremely rare human being who still downloads mp3s like the old days
is this old school realy? i alwayd pirate musics
@@grinpersian1672bruh! Now that's old school 😂
@@grinpersian1672 same
@Kushagra Sharma flac is lame
mp3 is better
@Kushagra Sharma heh?
This is a cool project! Can not wait for forme thé comparison with the degoogle version.
We need a full linux phone so badly.
This is actually really good. Kudos to them!
Thank you =) Its just the beginning. The new rugged Volla Phone X will be ready for preordering this week.
I honestly feel like a top down view of the phone would have been better to give people an idea of latency and screen responsiveness. Even a side by side of the VNC and a top down view of the phone itself would have been nice. All in all, thank you for this video! 👍
I was waiting for this phone review for a long time!
Thanks MUCH for review, share and video! Volla looked good, but expensive I thought... Will probably order a Pine phone if my FX Pro ever gets here :( Cheers! :)
If you only want to use Ubuntu Touch on a stable device, you may be interested in buying a Gigaset GS290 (EXACT same hardware, exact same manufacturer but WAY cheaper It costs 229€ and is way better than the PinePhone) You can install Ubuntu on it with the UBports installer :)
Have a nice day
I have a pine phone and the experience is like android 2.3 on my HTC Evo from 2010. Development is slow but coming along and you can see potential. Battery life is abysmal, but who cares when you can just swap it when it dies? Calls and sms work some of the time.
We need better specs to get this off the ground but really need more people to get involved. Software optimization will make the biggest difference. Security hardening will become very important as the devices gain in popularity.
Defiantly need a video about windows 11 and that a lot of machines won't be compatible due to the TPM V2 Chip needed. I'll be sticking with my linux install but worth a topic of conversation chris.
That will be the next video ;)
For me is this one probably cheaper and easier to get, compared to the pine phone. I would probably choose this over the pine phone. But otherwise great Video Chris.
ow God it really looked good.
Another step closer to a Linux phone for the masses.
Long time ago, Android phones run Linux.
@@vitacell1 will appimages work in android ?
@@rishirajsaikia1323 No, but well, it's Linux anyway.
@@vitacell1 how is it Linux? Sure it built off of Linux, but you can’t do linux stuff on it. I mean heck, iPhones are based of macOS, which is based off Unix...
@@WalterMan How can you make software for a kernel without an operating system? You can't program apps for NT or Darwin. Operating system is missing, lol. It's no sense making software for a kernel.
What is the "linux" stuff?
First, you should to learn the difference between kernel and an operating system.
I think that you are talking about GNU's stuff, which is operating system, the Unix's clone. This operating system usually comes/distributes with linux kernel.
Linux needs operating system to work. At least stuff like C library, init, bootloader, linking, filesystem...
Is microG installable on Volla OS? I didn't find too much information about the os but a custom AOSP ROM with paid devs working to support a specific device sure sounds interesting.
The Volla Phone supports USB OTG, but as usb 2.0 is limited, you can't connect cdmi directly to it. You could use miracast or display-link for that ;) Nice video!
For the adblock part, there are apps that allow to do the same on android without root (Blockada for example)
the rootfs is readonly because ubuntu touch makes use of image based updates, typically changes made with apt are lost on update.
i kinda made a bash script to install things with apt in the home directory called "crackle" xD
😃 yay Volla
as far as the rootfs being read-only, thats actually by design because Ubuntu Touch does a image based update, the most common misconception is that Ubuntu Touch is a desktop linux, which it actually is not, it is a linux build designed for mobile use, I have ported it to a device and have 4 UT devices, I would be glad to answer any questions
Can you port UT to the Moto e 2020 phone?
@@coler154 I could if I had one, its not as easy as android cause it involves reading through logs when things go wrong, and requires knowing how to get the logs. I can point in you in the right direction if you'd like to try doing it yourself
Hello from New York City! Curious about how Windows the browser on your phone Can it run and install Progressive web apps (PWA)? Thank you for informative video. Have a good day.
Hey chris, can you please make a video about a software called syshardener for windows 10?
So are u gonna use or try sailfish os next
I have one of these Volla Phones, mine is a dev device, there are so many OSes for it, I think you should explore them
I will!
Are there any other OSs built for Halium specifically?
@@charliekahn4205 there is a LuneOS build, and a Manjaro Build, as well as SailfishOS, Ive also put /e/ onto my Volla but wasnt too impressed with it (/e/ not the volla)
@@tyg3rpro don't forget droidian! Its pretty neat. Mobian with phosh UI but halium based
@@TechTino I havent had a chance to try those yet, Ive been trying to get cellular working on mine again from the last bricking (resulted in a loss of IMEIs and S/N, got the IMEIs back, but no cellular)
You can use the UT Tweak Tool app to switch to windowed mode btw
How does Volla OS compare to /e/ OS in terms of privacy and security?
feels so close i can taste it... just needing a few more things/features/tweaks and a few more modern supported device choices.
I've always wondered what happens if you install gnome tweaks and other tools on a phone
1:35 Is that becuase it's wired for USB 3.0 5gbit standard? Seems weird not to have native support for external displays and the such being type-c.
Oh there's gonna be more than one video on this
PinePhone is out of stock ... we all want Linux Phone´s !!! I am from Germany, don´t konw this Volla Phone. ThX for the info ;-)
You aren't really supposed to mount root writable and use apt that way. By design Ubuntu Touch has containers for that with Xorg support, though Xorg is quite laggy, so you can't use desktop browser properly with it.
I loved using Ubuntu Touch on one of my phones, though I wish they would have provided a wayland or xorg implementation with acceleration to use desktop apps properly. Without that, it feels more like android to me, though I love GUI and lack of bloat! You can run a linux terminal apps or even gui inside a contained on your android too.
Mir has a Wayland implementation, so Wayland should work.
I think UT has Anbox by default, so you could install the Android app when there isn't a Linux client that works on a phone.
Yeah, new anbox is really perfect now. It's named WayDroid or halium-anbox. It's on GitHub.
Ubuntu Touch uses Waydroid which can run certain Android apps. The UBports foundation paid for this to be developed.
Thanks Chris for the review. Very interesting to see Volla made a Linux phone that works in the real world. Wish they'd officially sell in the US though.
Since when Andoid doesn't run Linux?
@@vitacell1 My understanding is that Android IS Linux, but it is locked down so to defeat "Linux Freedom" (users doing what they want at risk of breaking the OS or bricking the phone). Appears Volla says "Do what you want", or at least more than Android.
You haven't reviewed Aqemu, a virtual machine app.
* It is QT5 based
* No dependency hassle
* WiFi and Audio work out of the box.
Please check it and give your feedback when comparing it to Virt-Manager and VMWare
what is no dependency hassle?:O
I still dream of the proposed ui that was in the world when the Ubuntu phone project was canceled the unity 8 shell was going to be a tab based browser accros multiple apps and content sources … with a singular search …
man i would love to daily drive a linux phone, just the power alone lol
i like the phone. but what do a user do to use gmail Hahaha you just answered my banking app question. bu the way does pine support banking apps and gmail
thanks
How do you install apps or programs on this phone? I played with raspberry pi devices and found compared to windows
it's a bit more painful getting things downloaded and running. Obviously this phone is for Linux experienced people but I do like the idea of a little competition.
I think theres a software store a similar type to what pop os has on pc
@@killertigergaming6762 how are you current adding apps to the phone?
@@n1kkri I don't have the phone i just use linux on pc and im pretty sure it works similar to just normal linux
@@killertigergaming6762 Are you the one in the video? If so did all the apps on the phone come that way?
@@n1kkri no im not smh
Awesome
Volla Phone: It’s a Linux Ubuntu Phone
Apple & Google: **intensifies**
Pine64 ships phones in batches to many different countries. From there they are repackaged and sent to the end user.
Linux should be able to use youtube. Does the phone not have enough space to hold the needed libraries?
Thank you, Chris. Step forward, two steps back?
They have made good progress from last year, but there is definitely still a ways go. I haven't found any hardware phone for it yet that I love. I want a powerful phone with HDMI out, so I can use it like a phone or computer.
@@ChrisTitusTech Exactly. What we have so far are still alphas. We need a distro that can be flashed onto fairly recent phones and just work. Or hardware that is as appealing as Pixels or i(am-owned)Phones and software that just works.
@@ChrisTitusTech look up he fxtech pro 1 x for that
@@AnzanHoshinRoshi you can jailbreak an iPhone and you get a decent Darwin system.
I use TH-cam music as well. can we nit install PWA?
Reminds me of the very early days of android (maybe 1.x or 2.x?)
I just want to do whatever I want with my files, download whatever I want, swap out parts if they become outdated, have full control over the camera and what happens on my phone...
_is this too much to ask?_
No but before you can ask this question you have to create a google-outlook-apple-facebook-twitter-samsung-account.
By creating an account you accept the terms of use.
why they don't redesign the looks especially the notification bar?the os age was 9 years.wasn't linux is customizable like android?
On the Linux phones, could you install anbox and gapps through anbox so you could run android alongside Ubuntu touch?
Yes there's something named WayDroid (formerly Halium-Anbox). It fully supports Micro-G and works really great at least on my OnePlus 7 Pro. Haven't run into an app that doesn't work yet.
If you need Android, just stay there, that defeats the purpose of these phones
is it a good idea to install linux on your phone instead of having android?
Do a video on the new windows 11 coming out. Microsoft said they weren't doing anymore versions, 10 was going to be updated from here on out. But I guess, like everything else with Microslop, you can't take their word on anything.
Sorry... I just found your win 11 video...😁
About the TH-cam music thing, can't you just use the web version? Or is it locked down to desktop only with forcing desktop mode on a phone resulting in a janky user experience?
Edit: Just tried it and it works perfectly on Android, the UI adapts perfectly. No offline capabilities tho.
That's the power of the web, it's platform agnostic :)
Web isn't platform agnostic
Will appimages work with Android phone ?
so... Bank of America is not accessible by browser?
Your laugh is synth
At 07:12 Your SUPER SECRET PASSWORD. was dope 🔥🔥🔥
What other phones are there that don't use Android / iOS?
Still don't get why gnome is considered by many people as a touch interface, but the phones have a completely different/clunky UI/UX... Would be super easy to adapt desktop gnome to mobile gnome with minor design tweaks. Maybe I when I have time for it, I have to make a mock-up...
Gnome is too heavy for any mobile device.
I meant more the UI/UX not gnome as a whole. That would be way too bloated indeed
@@Jonathan-ep9wb don't you like Unuty/Lomiri which is now on Ubuntu Touch? I find it quite sensible
On tablets desktop gnome is great
PinePhone came to me from Szczecin in Poland (for Europe).
mount "-o" option is for "options"
hey today which browser do you use?
Brave Browser
Does anyone notice how GPU acellration is always broken on these phones
It's GPU accelerated. It's the fault of VNC. On my OnePlus 7 Pro UBPorts is even smoother than Android.
9:46 are you sure thats the correct command? I tried it but i didnt do anything.
I just want to use a phone that doesn't have apple or google
Next time for the screen share u can try scrcpy
Buying link plz sir, india shipping
Freedom back again
you can run andriod apps on linux so no problem if need be
Why do you need a sim to get GPS ?
The network supplies satellite orbit data and an approximate location that helps the positioning calculations. Look up Assisted GPS for more details.
THE YEAR OF THE LINUX PHONE?
We need a revisit on linux on phones for early 2024.
Were is this phone/fone sold at?
Germany.
@@asland408 I rather pay my money to Germany then to China lol
If you’re in the U.K. and put Volla into the eBay and Amazon apps it keeps autocorrecting it to Villa the football club.
You shouldn't need a SIM card for GPS. You would need it for location based on cell towers.
If they can make a decent Linux phone with a decent camera that can easily transfer files like for libreoffice or videos I record. I’d drop this iPhone in a second having to upload things to google drive or one drive then download them on my laptop is a pain in the ass, dam iPhone just adding steps to everything.
Damn me want that made in Germany phone.
The redurn of the PDA.
The biggest drawback of this phone : NIH
(Not Invented Here)
Does a browser work? Can I view youtube in the browser?
You can use GTK stuff on it like normal if you change root permissions.
@@charliekahn4205 Did you do it? How is it done?
There is a TH-cam app in the store.
No video out kills this instantly.
This reminds me of Volafile and Lainchan.
Loli-Chan?? :)
@@markh.6687 Lainchan, not lolichan.
@@NuryPPanaligan Mine was a play on words. :)
how about my phones ... i want linux too. i bealive there is a way
"Linux phone" Well that just sounds like Android with extra steps
It isn't but okay
Isn't android basically linux? I mean, you can even install a terminal if you wanted to
I want to use linux phone :), but now, i use android, cz the app that i use(some banking apps) on android isn't available on e.g ubuntu touch :). But linux phone is great :').
You can use WayDroid (formerly anbox-halium) for your banking apps. It's essentially a native Lineage OS experience but on UBPorts.
Gps shouldnt require a sim, just a clear view of the sky. The reason other phones get your location indoors is because of wifi scanning, which Linux phones won't have. Most degoogled phones disable wifi scanning as well. It's basically google/apple crowd sourcing ssid's and locations of those ssid's (or Mac addresses) from other people phones. It tends to be a concern for privacy oriented people.
Ha, I'll have to take it outside and try this out. Never thought of this aspect. Pretty cool.
if they smoothed out waydroid and made it easier to install on ubuntu touch phones, ubuntu touch would be much handier. it's still suitable for a daily driver, if you don't do much. linux phones need to take off and become more popular. sailfish x is the best imo, but they need to make it available world wide..
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It is garage compared to Android , Android also has terminal and it is for human being not like Linus for Robots
Ever heard of idk being in early development smh
The UI is just gorgeous. Too bad Ubuntu dropped it and the community isn't concentrating its effort on this one instead of make a million other mobile OS.
Isn't Android just a type of Linux anyway?
I've heard that from someone a long time ago.
not really, Android is linux is in the same vain as "windows NT is a unix"
so technically true, but in practice, no.
yes it is.
It is
But it isn't GNU/Linux; Android built-in just pure Linux kernel
But those Linux phones are GNU/Linux
Android uses the Linux kernel, but in lieu of the GNU suite of compiled C programs, it uses a custom JVM and a suite of apps and libraries written in Java.
@@charliekahn4205 Yeah and in the end no one cares.
Now let's install awesome wm on it and remove its keypad with a vim like editing style. lets make it rolling.
who need a touch gui, it's a bloat.
You know that Andriod is a Linux Distro, it uses the KERNEL !
Yes we all knew that but it's locked down by Google.
Yea we do know it uses the kernal but its made and developed by google so we don't want to use it
This guy just called android a 'locked down' OS. I wonder what he thinks about ios.....
Let me introduce you to a list with the most locked down devices at the top and the least at the bottom
1. IOS
2. Harmony OS (if you can even call it an own OS)
3. Android
4. Chromebook (still quite locked down, but has at least some extra compatibility like parallell linux support)
5. Mac OS
6. Windows
7. Linux
Why do I write this to you? Well your comment gave me inspiration...
@@morganjonasson2947 Root,jailbreaking is there ...
@@morganjonasson2947 I use linuix on my pc and honestly I don't feel like I'm being locked out of anything on my iPhone, except for pirated apps
I was thinking the same thing. That's the reason I got away from IOS and went with Android and never looked back.
@@n1kkri Android gives you less freedom in the places where it matters like privacy. Also android has broken compatibility with third party launchers lately and I fail to justify going back to Samsung
Can it work with Verizon?
You need a GSM carrier that does not require white listed phones supporting VoLTE for calls In the USA - so Verizon is a no go (CDMA and white listed). For calls it currently only works with T-mobile (which only gets 2G mobile data on the bands it supports in my area in Central TX), for LTE mobile data it is only compatible with AT&T in areas where they provide 4G/LTE over the 850MHz frequency band. I use my Volla with SIMS in both slots from each of those carriers in order to be able to use it as a daily driver here in Central TX.
@@totalsonic5619 Thanks. I was thinking of switching over to that other new service. Mint Mobile. Would it work with that? I think they use T Mobile towers
I would love to move to a Linux phone but not yet..
I would like to see Debian based phone.
That's Droidian/Mobian
Just use scrcpy-win64-v1.17 from github to mirror your phone using the charge cable to PC. Also you don't "Jailbreak" and Android phone. You "Root" Android. iOS is what you jailbreak. Sony Playstations is what you Jailbreak. Anything George Hotz hacked is when you use the term "Jailbreak."
lol the notch should die :p
jokes aside, there's patch you can apply, tis just heavey wip :p