Worth mentioning, that attack speed works as a separate damage multiplier for some pets (i think all of WD pets, Phantasms included, DH's Companions and Necro's Mages). It looks like it's the case for Tempest Rush too, but I don't know any other non-pet skills with that rule. Next thing to mention is crit working as separate multiplier for I think all DoT skills/effects, formulated as 1+CHC*CHD. Other thing, very specific, but worth covering, since sometimes I see questions about that - Iron Skin: Reflective Skin effect is ADDITIVE with stacks from 2pc of Invoker's set, making activating it actually worse that gaining one stack (300% vs 350%), thus this rune is completely not worth taking for Invoker Crus. There are some buffs not mentioned in the video, it's all based on data from D3Planner and then got retested by me - from results it seems like everything matches planner data, except for Poisoned Spirit and Scent of Blood (planner considers both additive, while they're multiplicative): WD - Haunt: Poisoned Spirit (multiplicative, confirmed by Wudijo and retested) Wizard - Black Hole: Spellsteal (additive), Black Hole: Absolute Zero (additive with elemental damage category), Arcane Dynamo (multiplicative), Energy Twister: Gale Force (additive), Familiar: Sparkflint (additive) Barb - Frenzy: Maniac (additive), No Escape (multiplicative) Crus - Lord Commander, in case if Phalanx will be non shit somewhere in the future KEKW (additive), Indestructible, because why not (additive) Necro: Serration (multiplicative), Frality: Scent of Blood (multiplicative, retested) EDIT: Harrington Waistguard is also worth mentioning, since it actually finds some use - additive.
@@wudijo Yeah, it looks like planner is wrong on this one. I've retested all of these buffs and it looks like outside of Frality: Scent of Blood everything seems right. As of Scent of Blood, it resulted as a separate multiplier (tested with 15% mages roll in helm and Strongarms, damage in game matched expected values for it being multiplier). I've edited comment up with new info.
10:40.. so if Teaguk is additive would it be stronger to use -example- bane of the powerful instead? or is Taeguk in its on additive category that makes it multiplicative? fff ._.
7:08 "Archery with bows is additive (tooltip says : 8% increased damage), Ambush is multiplicative (tooltip says : you deal 40% additional damage), Steady Aim is multiplicative (tooltip says : all damage is increased by 20%)" Based on tooltips alone, is there a way of knowing if a damage bonus is additive or multiplicative ? I couldn't guess the additive/multiplicative based on these in-game descriptions I just quoted
Thanks for this video i really like to know the mechanics in depth in games i am playing and diablo 3 doesnt have that really explained on tooltips so this helps alot ! Cheers mate :)
Now you need to make a feedback video for the upcoming PTR in which you suggest that all the additive buffs should be turned into multiplicative buffs. The devs said that the next big patch after 2.6.9 will be more about large balance changes, rather than just adding new stuff, so when the PTR Forum opens again for this PTR, it would be the perfect time to post something like this there (or maybe just a link to the video).
do multipliers effect pets in real time or only when resummoned? For example, if you summon a pet in an oculus ring will it keep the multiplier after you walk out the ring?
Quite a few seasons ago, DH's were able to play a zdps character for the first time and actually were the meta for about 2 weeks. Blizzard nerfed DH wolf call and mark for death, changing them from multipliers to additive dmg and lowered wolf call from 20% to 15%. There was a big uproar with the people that play single player as their dmg was crippled significantly by this nerf with Blizzard, once again, using the botters at the top of the leaderboards to make nerf decisions. Too my knowledge, the wolf call nerf and the mark for death nerf to additive has not been reversed. When I use it, I still no longer see the dmg burst I used to see when wolf call was 20% and multiplicative. Can You clarify this? I know this thread is 11 months old but hope review older vids for comments/questions.
Hi, WUDI. Thx for all ur Videos. So much INFOS. And i have a Question: Do I need Attack Speed on Items for 4ppl Meta as a WD? Cuz i will get attack speed from PainEnhancer. Or there is no limit. i see a lot of ppl roll Pure DMG on items. (like rings) thx for answering XD love u bro
Nice video! Question: How did you put a ruby in the beginner 1 handed crossbow? Also how much better do you think the physical rune is compared to other runes for potential season 21 RGK?
At the start your dmg doesnt increase with 350% x 8 is because that only counts for vengeance and multishot. So if you shoot with your basic it doesnt do anything.
yes, but u gotta be aware that cdr is non linear. if u have 52% cdr and ad an item with 8 cdr, it wont go to 60% cdr, it will go to something around 58%
it would help greatly if you separated your words a bit and talked clearer. I understand half of what you're saying but I'm really grateful for the info I manage to get from your videos, thank you!
Wait ! Strong arms sucks ass then. I mea N if it is additive the only benefits we get is roughly 30 primary stat. Even if it stacks 3 times it s awfull. I don’t get how it is played so much.
wudijo - I wouldn’t be surprised if you are a “manifestor,” who’s design is literally to inform. Inform and be happy about the information you give.. is like the path of all manifestors. But that’s not the type of thing you guarantee or bet on! 🤣 I only mention it because supposedly only 10% of the world population is manifestor. You should check out www.jovianarchive.com/Get_Your_Chart 👍🏼 I have no affiliation other than being a student, I guess you call it? for about 5-6 years and I find it fascinating.
Worth mentioning, that attack speed works as a separate damage multiplier for some pets (i think all of WD pets, Phantasms included, DH's Companions and Necro's Mages). It looks like it's the case for Tempest Rush too, but I don't know any other non-pet skills with that rule.
Next thing to mention is crit working as separate multiplier for I think all DoT skills/effects, formulated as 1+CHC*CHD.
Other thing, very specific, but worth covering, since sometimes I see questions about that - Iron Skin: Reflective Skin effect is ADDITIVE with stacks from 2pc of Invoker's set, making activating it actually worse that gaining one stack (300% vs 350%), thus this rune is completely not worth taking for Invoker Crus.
There are some buffs not mentioned in the video, it's all based on data from D3Planner and then got retested by me - from results it seems like everything matches planner data, except for Poisoned Spirit and Scent of Blood (planner considers both additive, while they're multiplicative):
WD - Haunt: Poisoned Spirit (multiplicative, confirmed by Wudijo and retested)
Wizard - Black Hole: Spellsteal (additive), Black Hole: Absolute Zero (additive with elemental damage category), Arcane Dynamo (multiplicative), Energy Twister: Gale Force (additive), Familiar: Sparkflint (additive)
Barb - Frenzy: Maniac (additive), No Escape (multiplicative)
Crus - Lord Commander, in case if Phalanx will be non shit somewhere in the future KEKW (additive), Indestructible, because why not (additive)
Necro: Serration (multiplicative), Frality: Scent of Blood (multiplicative, retested)
EDIT: Harrington Waistguard is also worth mentioning, since it actually finds some use - additive.
Thanks for taking Your time to share this.
Haunt - Poisened Spirit is multiplicative, rest seems accurate
@@wudijo Yeah, it looks like planner is wrong on this one. I've retested all of these buffs and it looks like outside of Frality: Scent of Blood everything seems right. As of Scent of Blood, it resulted as a separate multiplier (tested with 15% mages roll in helm and Strongarms, damage in game matched expected values for it being multiplier). I've edited comment up with new info.
10:40.. so if Teaguk is additive would it be stronger to use -example- bane of the powerful instead? or is Taeguk in its on additive category that makes it multiplicative? fff ._.
7:08 "Archery with bows is additive (tooltip says : 8% increased damage), Ambush is multiplicative (tooltip says : you deal 40% additional damage), Steady Aim is multiplicative (tooltip says : all damage is increased by 20%)" Based on tooltips alone, is there a way of knowing if a damage bonus is additive or multiplicative ? I couldn't guess the additive/multiplicative based on these in-game descriptions I just quoted
Nope, tooltips don't give you a clue
"Turns out, we can't apply slows to corrupt growth" LMAO
Thanks for this video i really like to know the mechanics in depth in games i am playing and diablo 3 doesnt have that really explained on tooltips so this helps alot ! Cheers mate :)
i like the fact that we dont know too much, keep the sheet dps boys oblivious to the true nature of being powerful :D
Wudijo is the best , the only guider i like for d3
Now you need to make a feedback video for the upcoming PTR in which you suggest that all the additive buffs should be turned into multiplicative buffs.
The devs said that the next big patch after 2.6.9 will be more about large balance changes, rather than just adding new stuff, so when the PTR Forum opens again for this PTR, it would be the perfect time to post something like this there (or maybe just a link to the video).
For WD Haunt - poisoned spirits is multiplicative as well!
I love the educational videos you are doing.
i love you for making sense.
thankyou
Muy buen video FELICITACIONES!!! Gracias , por favor continua asi !!! Exitos
brutal!
bookmarked and will come back every time creating a new character.)
my brain is huge now
Theorycrafting 101! Thank you very much!
do multipliers effect pets in real time or only when resummoned? For example, if you summon a pet in an oculus ring will it keep the multiplier after you walk out the ring?
Quite a few seasons ago, DH's were able to play a zdps character for the first time and actually were the meta for about 2 weeks. Blizzard nerfed DH wolf call and mark for death, changing them from multipliers to additive dmg and lowered wolf call from 20% to 15%. There was a big uproar with the people that play single player as their dmg was crippled significantly by this nerf with Blizzard, once again, using the botters at the top of the leaderboards to make nerf decisions. Too my knowledge, the wolf call nerf and the mark for death nerf to additive has not been reversed. When I use it, I still no longer see the dmg burst I used to see when wolf call was 20% and multiplicative. Can You clarify this? I know this thread is 11 months old but hope review older vids for comments/questions.
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All the additives dmg are added together to be a big multiplier with no exception that right ?
Hi, WUDI. Thx for all ur Videos. So much INFOS. And i have a Question:
Do I need Attack Speed on Items for 4ppl Meta as a WD? Cuz i will get attack
speed from PainEnhancer. Or there is no limit. i see a lot of ppl roll
Pure DMG on items. (like rings) thx for answering XD love u bro
Your guides give me joy
Nice video! Question: How did you put a ruby in the beginner 1 handed crossbow? Also how much better do you think the physical rune is compared to other runes for potential season 21 RGK?
you can use a ramaladni's gift and if you're talking about impale, rune doesn't matter
wudijo xD forgot you can Ramaladni a white. But doesn’t physical rune give you 330% more damage on Crit?
At the start your dmg doesnt increase with 350% x 8 is because that only counts for vengeance and multishot. So if you shoot with your basic it doesnt do anything.
have you read what the set does?
Hey wudijo. There a flaw in the Formula, aint there? Dex is 6450% but it says x65.5 in the formula. Or am i missing something? :)
100% base damage + 6450%
@@wudijo Aaah, ofc! cheers bud! :P
Why does it have to be convoluted...
I agree, that this stuff is hidden just promotes overlay cheats.
It should be presented more open to the player ingame.
Taeguk being additive, is it rip?
It looks like the crimson set is its own multiplier?
yes, but u gotta be aware that cdr is non linear. if u have 52% cdr and ad an item with 8 cdr, it wont go to 60% cdr, it will go to something around 58%
it would help greatly if you separated your words a bit and talked clearer. I understand half of what you're saying but I'm really grateful for the info I manage to get from your videos, thank you!
2.6.9 ptr???
Prof. Dr. Diablo
tyvm
Wait ! Strong arms sucks ass then. I mea
N if it is additive the only benefits we get is roughly 30 primary stat. Even if it stacks 3 times it s awfull. I don’t get how it is played so much.
Nitpick: you forgot frailty on the Necro.
Audi you should teach match to kids by playing Diablo.
I was actually tutoring others in math during high school xD
wudijo - I wouldn’t be surprised if you are a “manifestor,” who’s design is literally to inform. Inform and be happy about the information you give.. is like the path of all manifestors. But that’s not the type of thing you guarantee or bet on! 🤣 I only mention it because supposedly only 10% of the world population is manifestor. You should check out www.jovianarchive.com/Get_Your_Chart 👍🏼
I have no affiliation other than being a student, I guess you call it? for about 5-6 years and I find it fascinating.
Blizzard Maths XD
37400 people are now a lot wiser about diablo 3 mechanics :D should stop some of the brainless chatter in general....but it wont hehe
first
nah