Never back down from a back down. If he had studied under the Ziabatsu he wouldn't need to avoid trying anything difficult because he would have mastered the art of backing down.
Another interesting story: while Steph Curry's shot at 6:00 didn't count, he was visibly frustrated. So 12 minutes later, he goes for the exact same shot to end the half. He makes it. That basket was his 200th 3pt shot of the season, and Curry would go on to annihilate the record for 3pt baskets in a single season with 402 in that season.
@@seroskal9354 did any of the threes he made in the games that got him the ability to go 0 for 8 matter? If you dont play well in the regular season or playoff games before the finals, you dont get to go 0 for 8 when it mattered. every player on every team other than gsw and cleveland went 0 for 0 when it mattered that year. Having a stroke in the finals is better than anything not in the finals.
I can't believe we're still doing this and sports sucks so much when it gets to the binary point of winning/losing. But the warriors were one (1) win away from a championship, after going 73-9 that regular season. Their season was not a failure. You could argue they could have been truly legendary had they won it. But man, that is still an absolutely insane season of team basketball.
@@TornaitSuperBirdsame thing with the 16-0 pats, and the 0-4 bills. None of those seasons were failures, any other team would be blessed to have them. The NFC just failed less when it mattered God, that's a good quote
12:27 the look on everybody’s faces when he made it, I know they’re just looking to make sure he was out but it’s still hilarious how they all turned around with that confounded expression.
They just witnessed something never to be done before or since, or likely ever, certainly never again on purpose, doubtful to ever be done on accident. They are in history, and like everyone else who's ever been in history, they are just doing their jobs, and are questioning why a guy is doing something confusing when he could just be doing his job
Sean Fitzpatrick I agree. As it's coming down it looks like it's at least twice the height of the basket, so at it's peak I think it had to be significantly higher than 22.5 feet. Still, amazing video as always. Thanks Jon.
Correct. Closer to 26 feet if you don't put a black line above the players head who is used for measuring 6ft6 and start his feet at the bottom of the green line.
yeah I thought the Davis shot was a rainbow when compared to most 3/4 court shots, with a higher arc than usual, not a line drive. I think Jordan's court was a terrible place to try it and Davis' shot would not have gone in with that low of a ceiling either. The first look I saw of it made me actually think "how did that ball not hit the scoreboard above every half court logo?" Also the last replay of it, to me was clear the ball was not swished, it clipped the back rim on the way in, which is why it was coming back towards midcourt and not staying in that same arc towards the endline as it went through the net.
You can find out exactly how high it is by how long it took to fall. From Davis's release to the time it hit the rim it is approximately 2.22-2.24 seconds by my crude measurements. We know that at half that time, 1.12 seconds, the ball is at its maximum height because: A.The rim is 10 ft off the ground...and B. Baron Davis is 6'3, he's jumped about a foot or so off the ground, so 7'3, but his head is probably about a foot tall, so back to 6'3, however his wingspan, I'll approximate is also about 6'3 (the average person's wingspan is about the same as their height, I feel this is a safe assumption for a NBA player) so then that makes the shot a little less 9.5 ft off the ground, close enough. To find the height of the shot arc above Davis's hand you multiply the time it took to fall by its initial velocity in the y direction at the top of the arc, which is zero, and add take 1/2(a)(t)^2 (a is the acceleration of gravity in the downward direction, -9.8 m/s^2 and t is 1.12 s) and then take the opposite sign of that number because you take the "final position" (0 feet off the ground, or in this case, 0 feet above the rim) minus the initial position, which is the height we are trying to find. When I did this calculation, I got 6.14 meters, or 20.1 feet, THEN you add the 10 feet that the rim is above the court...so around 30 feet, give or take about 1.5 feet. tl;dr its 30 feet
everything I know about basketball came from my high school physics class. my teacher was super into college basketball and framed every physics lesson around something he'd seen in a basketball game. everything I know about physics is related to basketball and ONLY basketball. I later failed a college physics class and what I'm saying is I hate basketball but I liked this video.
baron davis was an electric player. i loved watching him play. especially when he was on the warriors with jason richardson and monta ellis. i guess the moral of the story is, either call your full court heaves, or try and pass it to a teammate so you can accidentally make it.
Oh no, I watched this video because Secret Base posted a short from it, and now I'm probably gonna watch all of Pretty Good again, and might start reading Jon's stories again, and watching the long documentaries. I don't have time for this
Hey man. Don't think that I don't appreciate the effort you are putting into these bad boys. Having had a job that worked with stats, I can't imagine how much more effort goes into these videos given that you're not only pulling the stats, but finding the videos, articles and putting it all into context. You give years of history to an event that occurs in the space between seconds. You the real MVP.
The arc was deffinately higher than 22 feet. The camera isnt verticle with the floor and is pointing downwards towards the court you not getting the right perspective on the players height or the arc. Otherwise another great video man!
Not to mention the inexplicable black bars in the picture showing that the ball is 3.5x the height of that player. I think it's just handwaving to justify trying the shot on the court they had access to
Yeah, I feel like they were covering for that practice facility. They probably didn't want to upset the people at the facility who were nice enough to let them use it.
The way he describes how he invented a shooting style in 7 tenths of a second made me laugh. Very cleverly written dialog on this channel and its very enjoyable. :)
I’m a Bucks lifer, and was obsessed with Eddie Robinson as a young lad. Sent dude cards when I was young, he signed every single one of them. I’ll never forget this shot either. Until now, this is the first time I’ve seen it since live.
man this guy is a great writer, dunno why he hasn't gotten more exposure yet. if you ever read this you should try your hand at a book, i would read it.
The split second you flashed Kyle O'Quinn's name up there, all I remembered was his Norfolk State miracle. Had no idea he still existed in the sports world.
I have been binge watching your videos the last few days. Not even a major sports fan; more stats nerd and occasional basketball watcher and football fan. Your videos have really deepened my appreciation of sports. Especially baseball.
Baron Davis my Favorite Player to watch! Never forget when he came to Cleveland and single hand-idly beat the Clippers after LBJ left and the ‘07 playoffs amazing!!
Jon, the ball was ~ 27.75 feet above the ground at max height. With a hang time of ~ 2.2 seconds and a release point ~ 6.5 feet above the ground. That ball was 27.75 feet above ground at max height. Everyone is saying it was higher than your estimation. This is much closer.
i've only just discovered pretty good, chart party and jon bois - I have never been more entertained before, seriously! where have these videos been my whole life!? Huge huge thanks to you for putting in so much time and effort into researching stories like this and condensing them into an easy to read format with clear narration. I also LOVE your sound design, some of your videos are verging on horror levels of epicly cool sound - if SB Nation ever falls through Jon, you should totally become a sound design! Anyway, thanks for making awesome vids, you've gained a loyal fan from Scotland, UK! :)
A) How many players call their shot ... and MISS? Calling your shot just before or as your about to take it, isn't that special, even if it's the most impossible shot ever. B) I can't see how the top of the arc of the shot is only 22 feet. Looks a lot higher than that (I'm sure that someone can mathematically prove that it would be impossible to get a swish with the ball being that low).
He called it before the inbounds, that's why the defender was all over him. But with B, yes, I definitely definitely agree that it's highers than 22 feet. It went through a 10 foot hoop, it's way higher than just double its height. Regardless this was a cool moment and a very cool video. I love baron davis
Honestly that ball looks like it was closer to 35 or 40 feet at the vertical apex. Doesn't change much but still I think Jon undershot it. Pun intended.
Very interesting video! Also notable was Tim Hardaway's 3-quarter shot against the Knicks. I think it was 1995 or 1996, and was a regular season NBA on NBC Sunday game. He nailed one from the opposite free throw line. It used to be on TH-cam but I can't find it anymore. I remember Bill Walton commentating that game, and said "That's the way you do it. Throw one in from three quarters court." It must have been at the Garden because there was stunned silence instead of cheering - at least that's how I remember it. I also want to say that it was at the end of the 1st quarter though I'm less sure about that. Apparently in the same game the side line team asked about the shot, and it turns out Tim Hardaway practiced those opposite-free throw shots because Pat Riley would let the team leave practice early if he made it. So he had incentive to be good at those shots! I was obsessed with basketball in the mid and late 90s and loved this story. So I started practicing the shots myself throughout high school and early college. One time, at the student gym at University of Arizona in Tucson, I launched the ball up from the far free throw line and it went in. I was there by myself but there were people jogging around and shooting at the other hoops - but not many. I thought, "That shot felt pretty good." So I tried it again. I nailed it. Back-to-back, opposite free-throw shots. I started spinning around looking for someone - anyone! - that witnessed my accomplishment. Not a single person noticed. No one else witnessed what will likely be the most improbable thing I've ever done.
The camera's perspective threw off your estimate of the height, just like you said it was an extremely rough estimate. It's bound to happen eventually but at the same time it's almost like you isolated that magical unknown factor that can take place in athletics. Really enjoyed this episode
Hey Jon, I just wanted to put it out there that I have watched a ton of TH-cam videos and I can't think of any that match yours in terms of production value and research. Very entertaining.
No, I've seen people use that emoji, but he s verified all right, I you click on his channel it has the circle and checkmark together, not just the check. He just turned off public sub count.
Not a big basketball fan, and only found this channel because of “the worst” but god damn it this is some quality content. A well deserved well done to everyone involved. Now to watch every “pretty good” I can find
It’s interesting that Jon mentions becoming interested in basketball *again.* I lost interest myself in the mid-to-late 00’s. Chalk it up to iso ball and the ensuing drop in points scored as well as the Malice at the Palace, which blew my nine-year-old mind.
So, it's been awhile since you've done one of these and I love them! I'm going to suggest one a little different. The 2011 Indy 500. The things that happened on that day should NOT be possible. The odds have got to be just astronomical and I'd love to see one of these Pretty Good shows done about that event. For those who don't know, look it up and do some research. I've had friends who know nothing about racing be absolutely stunned about the events of that race. One of the wildest single sporting events of all time.
this fella is too cool... love the way the videos are made with all the graphics and info... always interesting/funny/ informative. Jon Bois deserves many awards for what he does.
These are so amazing. I was so happy to discover these, and was hoping you'd have a huge library of like 100 for me to watch. I know you put alot of time into these and patiently await more baseball legends, folk tales, lore, etc type videos like the awesome Koo Dae Sung and Barry Bonds pieces.
Hi Jon, I commented this on your video profiling poker, but I think you would find the theory behind modern bowling really interesting. The way bowling used to work was that bowling balls were made of polyester and rubber. These bowling balls were really hard. I mean, really hard. Like, modern bowling balls are as hard as aluminum, and these balls were significantly harder. What this meant, practically, was that when the ball encountered friction to curve, the ball was just too hard to grab the dry part of the lane, slow down and cut through the pins. Because of this, scores were dramatically lower. A 200 average was spectacular. All of that changed when urethane bowling balls were invented. Lanes had oil on them to protect them from the impact of bowling balls, but it was standard practice to put a higher concentration of oil in the middle of the lane than either of the sides. This means that if a right handed player misses right, his ball will encounter more friction and curve back to the pocket, even though his shot quality was less than perfect. The inverse is also true, where if a right handed player misses left, the higher concentration of oil in the middle of the lane allows the ball to skid longer and hook less, “holding” the ball on line to the pocket. Players needed help because the ball just wasn't that powerful. That all changed with urethane and resin bowling balls. Urethane and resin were softer and had more friction built in with crazy chemistry over time, and that's not all. Bowling balls typically weigh 15 or 16 pounds, depending on a given professional's preference. Resin, urethane, plastic, rubber, they're just not that heavy, so the weight has to come from somewhere, right? Thats where cores come in. Cores are essentially big hunks of plastic that sit in the middle of a ball. When you drill a modern bowling ball, you're orienting that block to get that ball to do certain things. Certain drillings make the ball curve more, others less, and everything in between to where you can tune a bowling ball to make just about any shape you want on a lane, whether it's going really really straight, then violently curving towards the pocket, or a smooth arc that is more predictable. Scores went through the roof. 200 was no longer a goal. It was the standard. 300 games jumped in frequency like nobody had ever seen before. 900 series, three consecutive perfect games, happened for the first time. With bowling balls getting stronger and crazier than ever before, the sport needed to be made more difficult. As one starts discussing what higher level players do, they have to deal with conditions that are described as flatter, meaning that the distribution of oil is more even across the lane, giving collegiate players, higher level league bowlers and professionals a more difficult playing field to work with than standard league play and casual bowlers. Here is where things get actually crazy. Every ball thrown actually removes oil from the lane, terraforming the lane, based on where players are throwing the ball. This requires players to move around on the lane to find oil as the lane dries up, so they can keep a consistent path to the pocket. Players standardize their strategies into individual moves, where players change where they stand and their target to adjust to the oil’s transition, how an invisible obstacle is changing in front of their eyes.(facebook.com/usbc/videos/10154717479590336/) This is a video from this year's Team USA Trials. The camera angles aren't great, but you can see Marshall Kent, one of our sport's rising stars, moving left until he physically has to throw the ball over the gutter to keep the ball on the lane. This used to be unheard of, but these days, most collegiate tournaments in my conference end with half the field lofting over the gutter cap, standing in front of the ball return. This is barely scratching the surface, with layouts, oil patterns, lane play, the rise of the rev rate as a power metric, and, of course, Jason Belmonte and every other two handed bowler old people cry about these days. Please give the sport I love some consideration because we get a bad rep; I don't think bowling deserves it, and I think you would have a lot of fun looking at this stuff.
I've watched this video several times, but it took me until this instance to realize that the event in question happened during the brief window in which Dale Earnhardt and I were both alive. Fascinating.
I’m watching this again after about two years. Still amazing. Great production too. Nice strings in the montage of the failed attempts. One question: are there many/any failed “called shots”?
That shot was definitely higher than 22.5 feet and that ceiling was definitely lower EDIT: at 11:20 we can see that the ball is at least 20 feet in the air (probably more) since we know the hoop is 10 feet high
You should do Wes Matthew's story. He played for the Wisconsin Badgers. He hit a 70+ footer at the ending buzzer to beat the 1979 Michigan State Spartans. This was the Spartans team that otherwise went undefeated and was the NCAA championship team. Who was on that team? Magic Johnson. I was at that game. You couldn't leave the Firldhouse for a half an hour. Was a great moment in sports history.
"Never try anything that is difficult" ~ Jon Bois
Truly the inspiration this generation needs.
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mrmajikjr they took it to heart
Anything in life that's too hard is not worth doing.
-Jon McGuirk
@@DavidFernandezBass that's homer mentality!
Never back down from a back down. If he had studied under the Ziabatsu he wouldn't need to avoid trying anything difficult because he would have mastered the art of backing down.
Netflix should stop making weird nostalgia-garbage shows and start throwing that money at Jon Bois to make episodes out of these stories!
Brandon Ringon u gay
And EA Sports should hire him to spice up Madden
Dizcos - Factions & More! Oof
Brandon Ringo This is nostalgia too tho
Brandon Ringo I don’t think there’s such a thing as bad nostalgia, it won’t be nostalgic at all at that point 🤣
"This is the full-court shot, there are no half measures."
Immediately after writing this line, Jon spun in his chair dabbing for the rest of the day.
Meris bro he said as I saw this comment wtf
ngl i would do the same
Can't believe Jon Bois did the first ever dab
@@mayredwood The dab was a thing back in 2015... This came out in 2017
"At Terminal 23, the ceiling is the roof."
Ok
Very good lol
Greatest quote by the GOAT
James Webb sucked
The ball was 3.5 times the height of that guy? Jon, dont you know you CAN'T workout 3.5 times a week??
Sanjay lmao
Of course
Tuesday
Thursday
Saturday
And half workout on cat day
4 days a week.
Oh here we go again
LMAO! I know EXACTLY where this came from! Well played, good sir!
_"YEET!!!"_
-Baron Davis
"Baron Davis From 89 Yeet"
The most 5y ago comment ever
Another interesting story: while Steph Curry's shot at 6:00 didn't count, he was visibly frustrated. So 12 minutes later, he goes for the exact same shot to end the half. He makes it.
That basket was his 200th 3pt shot of the season, and Curry would go on to annihilate the record for 3pt baskets in a single season with 402 in that season.
And goes 0 for 8 from 3 when it matters.
@@seroskal9354 did any of the threes he made in the games that got him the ability to go 0 for 8 matter? If you dont play well in the regular season or playoff games before the finals, you dont get to go 0 for 8 when it mattered. every player on every team other than gsw and cleveland went 0 for 0 when it mattered that year. Having a stroke in the finals is better than anything not in the finals.
I can't believe we're still doing this and sports sucks so much when it gets to the binary point of winning/losing. But the warriors were one (1) win away from a championship, after going 73-9 that regular season. Their season was not a failure. You could argue they could have been truly legendary had they won it. But man, that is still an absolutely insane season of team basketball.
@@cascade9584 Their season wasn't a failure. The Cavs just failed less when it counted.
@@TornaitSuperBirdsame thing with the 16-0 pats, and the 0-4 bills. None of those seasons were failures, any other team would be blessed to have them. The NFC just failed less when it mattered
God, that's a good quote
12:27 the look on everybody’s faces when he made it, I know they’re just looking to make sure he was out but it’s still hilarious how they all turned around with that confounded expression.
They just witnessed something never to be done before or since, or likely ever, certainly never again on purpose, doubtful to ever be done on accident. They are in history, and like everyone else who's ever been in history, they are just doing their jobs, and are questioning why a guy is doing something confusing when he could just be doing his job
I disagree on the arc of the ball. It was higher than 22.5 feet.
yeah, i wouldn't be surprised if i'm a little off on that estimate. could have been higher than 22.5 feet, probably wasn't lower.
Sean Fitzpatrick I agree. As it's coming down it looks like it's at least twice the height of the basket, so at it's peak I think it had to be significantly higher than 22.5 feet. Still, amazing video as always. Thanks Jon.
Correct. Closer to 26 feet if you don't put a black line above the players head who is used for measuring 6ft6 and start his feet at the bottom of the green line.
yeah I thought the Davis shot was a rainbow when compared to most 3/4 court shots, with a higher arc than usual, not a line drive. I think Jordan's court was a terrible place to try it and Davis' shot would not have gone in with that low of a ceiling either. The first look I saw of it made me actually think "how did that ball not hit the scoreboard above every half court logo?"
Also the last replay of it, to me was clear the ball was not swished, it clipped the back rim on the way in, which is why it was coming back towards midcourt and not staying in that same arc towards the endline as it went through the net.
You can find out exactly how high it is by how long it took to fall. From Davis's release to the time it hit the rim it is approximately 2.22-2.24 seconds by my crude measurements. We know that at half that time, 1.12 seconds, the ball is at its maximum height because: A.The rim is 10 ft off the ground...and B. Baron Davis is 6'3, he's jumped about a foot or so off the ground, so 7'3, but his head is probably about a foot tall, so back to 6'3, however his wingspan, I'll approximate is also about 6'3 (the average person's wingspan is about the same as their height, I feel this is a safe assumption for a NBA player) so then that makes the shot a little less 9.5 ft off the ground, close enough. To find the height of the shot arc above Davis's hand you multiply the time it took to fall by its initial velocity in the y direction at the top of the arc, which is zero, and add take 1/2(a)(t)^2 (a is the acceleration of gravity in the downward direction, -9.8 m/s^2 and t is 1.12 s) and then take the opposite sign of that number because you take the "final position" (0 feet off the ground, or in this case, 0 feet above the rim) minus the initial position, which is the height we are trying to find. When I did this calculation, I got 6.14 meters, or 20.1 feet, THEN you add the 10 feet that the rim is above the court...so around 30 feet, give or take about 1.5 feet.
tl;dr its 30 feet
Jon Bois is #1 unrated dude on youtube.
now even more unrated because his quality content is put here instead of his own channel
Have you ever heard of a guy called Ahoy?
he barely makes any videos though
Ali Bailey the guys who is narrating and who wrote the video is called Jon Bois, he makes other videos like this
he and breadsword my man
“I belong in Jordans like Michael Dukakis belongs in a tank” is an underrated line
I feel the same way that's why I wear Allen iversons
Michael Dukakis tank reference in 2017 is a glorious thing
This show might be my favorite thing on the internet
just wish there was more of it
19 hours later YAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!
Might?
I agree
everything I know about basketball came from my high school physics class. my teacher was super into college basketball and framed every physics lesson around something he'd seen in a basketball game. everything I know about physics is related to basketball and ONLY basketball. I later failed a college physics class and what I'm saying is I hate basketball but I liked this video.
Liv Lee how are you going to relate electromagnetism to basketball..?
@@melodywawichi802 the 5G rays make us electro magnetic, allowing us to have better control while dribbling
@@melodywawichi802The magnets in the rim, duh
baron davis was an electric player. i loved watching him play. especially when he was on the warriors with jason richardson and monta ellis. i guess the moral of the story is, either call your full court heaves, or try and pass it to a teammate so you can accidentally make it.
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That teammate that crowder tried to pass it to left the next year...
Says the guy with a patrick profile pic
hmmmm
Don't call out people for having a picture of Patrick Star, when you have minecraft videos on your channel XD
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Oh no, I watched this video because Secret Base posted a short from it, and now I'm probably gonna watch all of Pretty Good again, and might start reading Jon's stories again, and watching the long documentaries. I don't have time for this
good news
Hey man. Don't think that I don't appreciate the effort you are putting into these bad boys. Having had a job that worked with stats, I can't imagine how much more effort goes into these videos given that you're not only pulling the stats, but finding the videos, articles and putting it all into context. You give years of history to an event that occurs in the space between seconds.
You the real MVP.
It's a shame this came out before Michael Jordan profoundly stated that the ceiling is the roof.
The arc was deffinately higher than 22 feet. The camera isnt verticle with the floor and is pointing downwards towards the court you not getting the right perspective on the players height or the arc. Otherwise another great video man!
I was thinking that the entire time during their attempts
Not to mention the inexplicable black bars in the picture showing that the ball is 3.5x the height of that player. I think it's just handwaving to justify trying the shot on the court they had access to
I 100% agree. Good observation. Also. It’s 92 ft according to the NBA records. Not 89 ft
The bois god does not make mistakes.
he threw that ball much higher than 22 feet
Agreed
Yeah, I feel like they were covering for that practice facility. They probably didn't want to upset the people at the facility who were nice enough to let them use it.
Yea 22 feet ain't nothing
22.5 ft
im glad im not the only one that thought that
Jon, the music is what makes me show these to everyone. Great choices, as always.
Hilarious choices. Great job.
silenius19 yes I play water polo and this is true
Beautiful writing. “Anything with any intent in between the two has failed. This is the full court shot, there are no half-measures”. Amazing job!
4:54 “N.L. Retires From Quest For Seattle”
The Jon Bois Cinematic Universe strikes again.
4:50 on the left of the picture. Jon Bois is foreshadowing his future videos.
Been scrolling 5 minutes to see if anyone else noticed
"This is the full-court shot, there are no half measures"
And this is why you're my favorite sports writer Jon. I love you.
The way he describes how he invented a shooting style in 7 tenths of a second made me laugh. Very cleverly written dialog on this channel and its very enjoyable. :)
I’m a Bucks lifer, and was obsessed with Eddie Robinson as a young lad. Sent dude cards when I was young, he signed every single one of them. I’ll never forget this shot either. Until now, this is the first time I’ve seen it since live.
"I belong in Jordans like Michael Dukakis belongs in a tank" ok, that's a spit-take right there
man this guy is a great writer, dunno why he hasn't gotten more exposure yet. if you ever read this you should try your hand at a book, i would read it.
yo dude form 7 years ago, GREAT pfp.
Think we woke the baby up!
Seen this video in full 4 times, but sometimes I come back to watch just the first 35 seconds, gives me chills every time
The split second you flashed Kyle O'Quinn's name up there, all I remembered was his Norfolk State miracle. Had no idea he still existed in the sports world.
Devonte' Graham just hit one from about 60-65feet. this video first thing i thought of.
Same
I have been binge watching your videos the last few days. Not even a major sports fan; more stats nerd and occasional basketball watcher and football fan. Your videos have really deepened my appreciation of sports. Especially baseball.
The Baron Davis Warriors were AMAZING. Sportscenter was so lit then and the top plays were actually great, unique plays.
Baron Davis my Favorite Player to watch! Never forget when he came to Cleveland and single hand-idly beat the Clippers after LBJ left and the ‘07 playoffs amazing!!
I loved watching Baron Davis, he was a good and entertaining player.
Jon, the ball was ~ 27.75 feet above the ground at max height. With a hang time of ~ 2.2 seconds and a release point ~ 6.5 feet above the ground. That ball was 27.75 feet above ground at max height. Everyone is saying it was higher than your estimation. This is much closer.
i've only just discovered pretty good, chart party and jon bois - I have never been more entertained before, seriously! where have these videos been my whole life!?
Huge huge thanks to you for putting in so much time and effort into researching stories like this and condensing them into an easy to read format with clear narration.
I also LOVE your sound design, some of your videos are verging on horror levels of epicly cool sound - if SB Nation ever falls through Jon, you should totally become a sound design! Anyway, thanks for making awesome vids, you've gained a loyal fan from Scotland, UK! :)
A) How many players call their shot ... and MISS? Calling your shot just before or as your about to take it, isn't that special, even if it's the most impossible shot ever.
B) I can't see how the top of the arc of the shot is only 22 feet. Looks a lot higher than that (I'm sure that someone can mathematically prove that it would be impossible to get a swish with the ball being that low).
He called it before the inbounds, that's why the defender was all over him. But with B, yes, I definitely definitely agree that it's highers than 22 feet. It went through a 10 foot hoop, it's way higher than just double its height.
Regardless this was a cool moment and a very cool video. I love baron davis
Jon Bois/Will the Sound Guy 2020.
Calling it now.
i sit near him at work! i'll ask him
Honestly that ball looks like it was closer to 35 or 40 feet at the vertical apex. Doesn't change much but still I think Jon undershot it.
Pun intended.
😂
Baron Davis in general was pretty good. He was one of my favorite players in 2K and was underrated
Andre Drummond did it behind the opposite free throw line with both hands like a long ass chest pass back in feb 16’.... never forget
There is nothing like basketball stories, a long ass shot, and sweet smooth love making jazz interludes!!
Your videos are timeless , watching this years later
"The ceiling is the roof!" - Michael Jordan
Very interesting video!
Also notable was Tim Hardaway's 3-quarter shot against the Knicks. I think it was 1995 or 1996, and was a regular season NBA on NBC Sunday game. He nailed one from the opposite free throw line. It used to be on TH-cam but I can't find it anymore. I remember Bill Walton commentating that game, and said "That's the way you do it. Throw one in from three quarters court." It must have been at the Garden because there was stunned silence instead of cheering - at least that's how I remember it. I also want to say that it was at the end of the 1st quarter though I'm less sure about that.
Apparently in the same game the side line team asked about the shot, and it turns out Tim Hardaway practiced those opposite-free throw shots because Pat Riley would let the team leave practice early if he made it. So he had incentive to be good at those shots!
I was obsessed with basketball in the mid and late 90s and loved this story. So I started practicing the shots myself throughout high school and early college. One time, at the student gym at University of Arizona in Tucson, I launched the ball up from the far free throw line and it went in. I was there by myself but there were people jogging around and shooting at the other hoops - but not many. I thought, "That shot felt pretty good." So I tried it again. I nailed it. Back-to-back, opposite free-throw shots. I started spinning around looking for someone - anyone! - that witnessed my accomplishment. Not a single person noticed. No one else witnessed what will likely be the most improbable thing I've ever done.
After all this time I think the “Never try anything that is difficult” joke is my favorite joke Jon has ever made
This series speaks to my soul
The aesthetics is sublime
The camera's perspective threw off your estimate of the height, just like you said it was an extremely rough estimate. It's bound to happen eventually but at the same time it's almost like you isolated that magical unknown factor that can take place in athletics. Really enjoyed this episode
I'm here after the Embid shot! First thing I though was "Baron actually made it!" But I knew it wasn't the end of the game.
mee too
Holy moly I forgot how good this series is
Keep this guy... talented film maker
Great work John
Crazy that this vid is outdated now. The NBA truly is amazing
Hey Jon, I just wanted to put it out there that I have watched a ton of TH-cam videos and I can't think of any that match yours in terms of production value and research. Very entertaining.
Aw crabapples.
Patrick Crutchley how are you verified
Patrick Crutchley how are you verified
how are you verified
No, I've seen people use that emoji, but he s verified all right, I you click on his channel it has the circle and checkmark together, not just the check. He just turned off public sub count.
@m0ist he's actually verified dummy
"I will" are powerful words, often taken for granted.
so many sixers on that list of deep shots i love it
Not a big basketball fan, and only found this channel because of “the worst” but god damn it this is some quality content. A well deserved well done to everyone involved. Now to watch every “pretty good” I can find
It’s interesting that Jon mentions becoming interested in basketball *again.* I lost interest myself in the mid-to-late 00’s. Chalk it up to iso ball and the ensuing drop in points scored as well as the Malice at the Palace, which blew my nine-year-old mind.
I know Jae Crowders did not count but thats a 94 footer
Watch the video
I love the way the opposing players all turn to look at him like "wow, really dude?"
lol Paul George's expression 12:25 you could read it at 2 dpi.
AFTERTHEBLOCK no it isnt
Its an "inbound play" so it doesnt count.
So, it's been awhile since you've done one of these and I love them! I'm going to suggest one a little different. The 2011 Indy 500. The things that happened on that day should NOT be possible. The odds have got to be just astronomical and I'd love to see one of these Pretty Good shows done about that event. For those who don't know, look it up and do some research. I've had friends who know nothing about racing be absolutely stunned about the events of that race. One of the wildest single sporting events of all time.
There’s a reason Jon is my favourite sports writer.
This should be on Netflix. Beautiful
This is basically the vaporwave of sports
12:26
The faces of the other team are just like:
_"Bruh, WTF!?!"_
Jon Bois is a lefty... I want to hug him now.
Here rewatching in 2022 can't believe I never realized Tyler was in this video crazy how far he's come since.
That face when Jon Bois content is the only kind of content you want, and you've already rewatched all his videos.
Look at the backboard compared to the ball coming down, the arc was way more the 22 feet
this fella is too cool... love the way the videos are made with all the graphics and info... always interesting/funny/ informative. Jon Bois deserves many awards for what he does.
pretty good
Showed this shot to my pops & he actually said "it wasn't a swish but it was Pretty Good". Like an unintentional dad joke
These are so amazing. I was so happy to discover these, and was hoping you'd have a huge library of like 100 for me to watch. I know you put alot of time into these and patiently await more baseball legends, folk tales, lore, etc type videos like the awesome Koo Dae Sung and Barry Bonds pieces.
what is that slammin sax track at the start of the episode? Jon always comes up with dope tracks.
I know this is a year late but the track is called "Zoom Off A". It's not on TH-cam as far as I am aware but it is on a website called SONOfind.
It sounds like a cheesy love movie from the 80's, or when I had to watch softcore sex shows when I was a preteen and before the internet.
@@JoeCnNd No it doesn't. It reminds me of boyz n the hood. The saxophone is timeless sounding
@@SixthDream oh I forgot that you tell me what things sound like to me.
Hi Jon, I commented this on your video profiling poker, but I think you would find the theory behind modern bowling really interesting. The way bowling used to work was that bowling balls were made of polyester and rubber. These bowling balls were really hard. I mean, really hard. Like, modern bowling balls are as hard as aluminum, and these balls were significantly harder. What this meant, practically, was that when the ball encountered friction to curve, the ball was just too hard to grab the dry part of the lane, slow down and cut through the pins. Because of this, scores were dramatically lower. A 200 average was spectacular. All of that changed when urethane bowling balls were invented. Lanes had oil on them to protect them from the impact of bowling balls, but it was standard practice to put a higher concentration of oil in the middle of the lane than either of the sides. This means that if a right handed player misses right, his ball will encounter more friction and curve back to the pocket, even though his shot quality was less than perfect. The inverse is also true, where if a right handed player misses left, the higher concentration of oil in the middle of the lane allows the ball to skid longer and hook less, “holding” the ball on line to the pocket. Players needed help because the ball just wasn't that powerful. That all changed with urethane and resin bowling balls. Urethane and resin were softer and had more friction built in with crazy chemistry over time, and that's not all. Bowling balls typically weigh 15 or 16 pounds, depending on a given professional's preference. Resin, urethane, plastic, rubber, they're just not that heavy, so the weight has to come from somewhere, right? Thats where cores come in. Cores are essentially big hunks of plastic that sit in the middle of a ball. When you drill a modern bowling ball, you're orienting that block to get that ball to do certain things. Certain drillings make the ball curve more, others less, and everything in between to where you can tune a bowling ball to make just about any shape you want on a lane, whether it's going really really straight, then violently curving towards the pocket, or a smooth arc that is more predictable. Scores went through the roof. 200 was no longer a goal. It was the standard. 300 games jumped in frequency like nobody had ever seen before. 900 series, three consecutive perfect games, happened for the first time. With bowling balls getting stronger and crazier than ever before, the sport needed to be made more difficult. As one starts discussing what higher level players do, they have to deal with conditions that are described as flatter, meaning that the distribution of oil is more even across the lane, giving collegiate players, higher level league bowlers and professionals a more difficult playing field to work with than standard league play and casual bowlers. Here is where things get actually crazy. Every ball thrown actually removes oil from the lane, terraforming the lane, based on where players are throwing the ball. This requires players to move around on the lane to find oil as the lane dries up, so they can keep a consistent path to the pocket. Players standardize their strategies into individual moves, where players change where they stand and their target to adjust to the oil’s transition, how an invisible obstacle is changing in front of their eyes.(facebook.com/usbc/videos/10154717479590336/) This is a video from this year's Team USA Trials. The camera angles aren't great, but you can see Marshall Kent, one of our sport's rising stars, moving left until he physically has to throw the ball over the gutter to keep the ball on the lane. This used to be unheard of, but these days, most collegiate tournaments in my conference end with half the field lofting over the gutter cap, standing in front of the ball return. This is barely scratching the surface, with layouts, oil patterns, lane play, the rise of the rev rate as a power metric, and, of course, Jason Belmonte and every other two handed bowler old people cry about these days. Please give the sport I love some consideration because we get a bad rep; I don't think bowling deserves it, and I think you would have a lot of fun looking at this stuff.
Jon bois makes the best videos on sb
Anybody here after Embiid’s heave off the rim that went in and out?
TBH this is the best channel on yt
I'm fairly confident I was the only guy who got that "Michael Dukakis in a tank" joke
Britton Thompson 😂 We few, we merry few.
7:47 Marcus Smart's 1st missed shot was the best, camera man swoops over then realize it's not even past the half court line
I love the touch of the actual Charlotte sky line at the beginning!
some of jon's topics, at first glance, might not be interesting or off to one's taste... but, after watching them all....
they are all PRETTY GOOD...
Pretty good is back!
22 feet arc high point calculation is very rough indeed. very very rough
Baron Davis and VC are my heroes
I just binged all these episodes. I NEED MORE.
Whats with you and Smooth Jazz
We all know Patrick likes to participate in free form jazz
I want to know what's wrong with smooth jazz
It's timeless and makes the video better
Jazz is jazzy. That's all you need to know.
Jon i love theeeeeeeese pls make more
I've watched this video several times, but it took me until this instance to realize that the event in question happened during the brief window in which Dale Earnhardt and I were both alive. Fascinating.
whether Rudy Gay made that shot or not is known by time alone ((also the box score I guess) and also like everyone there)
WigsZone The thing wasn't the box score; Jon knew he missed. The problem was where the ball landed. THAT is the unknown and why it wasn't mapped.
What shot?
that is pretty good
Man, right in my NBA sweet spot. 2001-03.
The outro clips (13:08) are incredible.
I don't even enjoy sports, but even I remember hearing about the Magic Johnson full-court shot. Good times.
I don't watch sports but I love your videos. Thank you for all the wonderful content
Happy damn day indeed! I was afraid Mr. Bois had stopped making these. Exceptionally Crafted storytelling.
I’m watching this again after about two years. Still amazing. Great production too. Nice strings in the montage of the failed attempts.
One question: are there many/any failed “called shots”?
That shot was definitely higher than 22.5 feet and that ceiling was definitely lower
EDIT: at 11:20 we can see that the ball is at least 20 feet in the air (probably more) since we know the hoop is 10 feet high
It didn't swish, it hit back rim, you can see by he way the ball bounces back, the net isn't that strong
Thanks. I was going to point this out, but you did it 3 years ago.
You should do Wes Matthew's story. He played for the Wisconsin Badgers. He hit a 70+ footer at the ending buzzer to beat the 1979 Michigan State Spartans. This was the Spartans team that otherwise went undefeated and was the NCAA championship team.
Who was on that team? Magic Johnson. I was at that game. You couldn't leave the Firldhouse for a half an hour. Was a great moment in sports history.