Chart Party: We decided to erase the three-pointer

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2016
  • some people told me they didn't like the three-pointer. so i went back and re-scored the entire NBA 2015-16 season without it. special thanks to Basketball-Reference.com, one of the greatest sites in the history of the Internet.
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  • @justballin8508
    @justballin8508 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1549

    Jon: I don't really have many sports opinions, I just like to take them how they come.
    Also Jon: KICKOFFS ARE STUPID AND BAD!

    • @viiviketomaki7284
      @viiviketomaki7284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +124

      Tbf that's not an opinion, that's a fact.

    • @andromeda5008
      @andromeda5008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He is spitting straight facts though

    • @agathailla3285
      @agathailla3285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Haters gonna hate, but a star above the rest, is still a star above the rest.

    • @trehamilton3009
      @trehamilton3009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "hey angie is a bucks fan" lmaoo

    • @NoAllahNoGod
      @NoAllahNoGod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      :D Well, if you think about it, he didn't have an opinion about kickoffs, took them how they came, and concluded they're stupid and bad!
      Also, I don't care about football, I prefer the real football (the one you actually play with your feet), so I like kickoffs, because without kickoffs, you couldn't begin a game of football. Real football, of course.

  • @brandonbuchner1771
    @brandonbuchner1771 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3276

    Actual Jaw Drop at the end with Curry's last season star. So amazing.

    • @travz21
      @travz21 7 ปีที่แล้ว +209

      Really is incredible. Almost 50% better than the 2nd best season of all time. 272 to 402 is such a ridiculous gap.

    • @thai-sonle5450
      @thai-sonle5450 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      he meant the number of 3s made not the percentage

    • @Josh-tt6zg
      @Josh-tt6zg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Why? It's almost the same percentage made? All he did was take more 3s. That's not that impressive.

    • @LogPo4
      @LogPo4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      @@Josh-tt6zg so what jerry rice had 14 1000 yard seasons. A lot of people have 1000 yard seasons, he just did it a few more times.

    • @Josh-tt6zg
      @Josh-tt6zg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@LogPo4 How does that even compare? Football is entirely different. IF you wanted to use that analogy you'd have to talk about how Jerry Rice caught x amount of passes compared to others who have attained a 1000 yard season.
      For example, it's not that impressive if you catch 1000 catches for 1000 yards. But if you catch 20 passes for 1000, that's damn impressive.
      What I'm saying is the amount of 3 pointers he made is not that impressive because ultimately he took more shots. His average percentage of making the shot was relatively the same as the year before. Obviously anyone who has taken a math course can tell you that if you take more shots, you're going to overall make more baskets. Again, that's not impressive. That just means either you're a ball hog and not a team player, or that you are only there so people can feed you the ball. Neither of which is impressive. What would be impressive would be the rise in the percentage of shots made, but again, that didn't happen to the extent that it would be impressive compared to the year previous.
      Now also, the graph is at fault. The reason why, to any lay person, it looks impressive is because the y variable is the amount of shots taken. Of course once again, anyone who has taken a math course can tell you that ultimately the amount of shots taken doesn't matter at all, what does matter is percentage made. This data could be better represented by simple having a cutoff of let's say 200 shots taken, and then simply have the percentages made graphed out per year. Not only will this show how three point shooters have become more accurate over the years but it will get rid of the misleading large distance between years for Steph.

  • @ai1212
    @ai1212 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1260

    Ben Simmons would love this.

    • @imtalented3145
      @imtalented3145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      indubitably

    • @jonislovejonislife
      @jonislovejonislife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      So would Westbrook because it would revive his career too

    • @RagingRugbyst
      @RagingRugbyst 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Would he though? Ha has no midrange, and without 3, there'd be less spacing and less passing opportunities.

    • @gkdunch
      @gkdunch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@RagingRugbyst while you are right, you ruined the joke

    • @PushForBacon
      @PushForBacon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nice

  • @coltin1494
    @coltin1494 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1480

    The most incredible thing about the final chart is that if it was remade today there would be way more stars up there but 2 years ago it was alone.
    In other words, that season by Steph single handedly revolutionized the sport.

    • @alexg100100
      @alexg100100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      coltin this is why I’ll never understand people who talk shit about curry. I’m a diehard rockets fan but I have maaaaaad respect for steph curry even if I hate his team

    • @anthonynorman7545
      @anthonynorman7545 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      yeah, teams were using stretch 4s and bombing 3s before the Warriors. The Warriors just happened to get the most attention (a lot of it well earned) for it. D'Antoni deserves as much credit as the Warriors in my book

    • @anthonynorman7545
      @anthonynorman7545 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Hugh Mungus for Mike, you gotta look at what the Suns were doing with Nash. It laid the foundations for now, but yeah Moreyball deserves big credit as well.

    • @dominic-qq7mj
      @dominic-qq7mj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@Hugh Mungus average three point attempt rate was climbing extremely slowly after around 2005. Sure it wouldve come to a point where all teams were averaging 10 made threes a game but that wouldve taken a very long while. The league needed a player like Curry to show that a high attempt rate leads to more wins and easy scoring.
      And you cant really compare curry to any other great three point shooter since curry was taking a lot more than they were, no one had the confidence to shoot at the rate he did, everyone thought it was a bad idea.
      The 05 and 06 suns collapsing before the finals did not help the league attempt more threes, the warriors dominating the league did.

    • @ademalic7903
      @ademalic7903 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      credit is due for the only unanimous MVP in history and singlehandedly took over the league with 3s, however, as much I don’t want to sound like I’m hating, he did choke a 3-1 lead in the finals, as the only team in history to do so. Like it or not, he may have revolutionized the game, but still ended up in the wrong side of the table. The three is overrated

  • @doxazo5512
    @doxazo5512 6 ปีที่แล้ว +440

    That last chart though, I love it when there's just one player or team that just breaks everything

    • @bob3007
      @bob3007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      the wayne gretzky phenomenon i call it

  • @gumersindocebollero3261
    @gumersindocebollero3261 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1145

    What I got from this is that the 95-96 Bulls had a shortened 3pt line, and that Curry is ridiculous.

    • @GOMLrandom
      @GOMLrandom 7 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Gumersindo Cebollero yeah curry is ridiculous for blowing a 3-1 lead

    • @zacharyzook5672
      @zacharyzook5672 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      lmfao. yes

    • @beartheburden4134
      @beartheburden4134 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Manny Benitez get over it manny

    • @neilwilks8640
      @neilwilks8640 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gumersindo Cebollero lol

    • @Jimmy_Vee
      @Jimmy_Vee 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      ilie get over it u jelly

  • @Paryah
    @Paryah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    “Oh hey! Angie’s a bucks fan” still kills me

  • @gretz5792
    @gretz5792 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    the jazz intro music is so incredibly composed. the modal interchange, the changes. seriously incredible. i dont know why im obsessing over it so much. i can get the chart party music out of my head

    • @officialvisaural
      @officialvisaural 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      exactly man. i'm hunting for the rest of the music here. the final track with curry's 402 is mladen franko's beneath the rainbow, which is finally available on streaming platforms.
      edit: Chart Party intro music is "Love de Luxe" by Keith Mansfield

  • @MrJreed1000
    @MrJreed1000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +922

    the smooth sax really brings this video together...

    • @blakfloyd5602
      @blakfloyd5602 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Just like my rug really ties my living room together.

    • @matthewgriffin4885
      @matthewgriffin4885 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      MrJreed1000 that’s the only reason I’m here and the fun facts

    • @buschtrout1499
      @buschtrout1499 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anybody know the song name?

    • @xdaddyduragx7989
      @xdaddyduragx7989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      PadPusher Incase you’re still looking for it, it’s Love De Luxe by Keith Mansfield

    • @i_cam
      @i_cam 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fax doe

  • @1tmac4life
    @1tmac4life 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1822

    "hey angie is a bucks fan" lmaoo

    • @gumersindocebollero3261
      @gumersindocebollero3261 8 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      That was my first thought.

    • @moshimoshi8283
      @moshimoshi8283 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Joseph Schell yall shoot betta than we do in Chicago especially now tht we traded our best 3 point shooter fah a 5th pg #FireGarPax

    • @1945joshuaruiz
      @1945joshuaruiz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Joseph Schell better ? Please 😂😂😂

    • @aico727
      @aico727 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      1tmac4life i mean he's not lying lmao, this is coming from a bucks fan

    • @edubz1906
      @edubz1906 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Shit, he just fears the deer

  • @logicaldude3611
    @logicaldude3611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    I've never really thought about how strange the 3-pt line is. I mean, imagine if we had something like this in other sports. You hit a homerun, but if it's over 450ft it counts as TWO homeruns. Or let's say you kick a FG from past 50 yards, you get FOUR points instead of three. Or in soccer, if you score a goal from outside the 18 yard box it counts as TWO goals.
    It's really kind of bizarre and arbitrary.

    • @gonb5434
      @gonb5434 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      actually i want this in every sport now, 50 feet 4 point field goals sounds hilarious

    • @defeatstatistics7413
      @defeatstatistics7413 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Honestly the best thing about soccer. You can score glorious long-range goals, flying headers, send three defenders to the donut shop with skill before scoring, but they all only count as one. The transcendent talent of the best players on the best teams can be cancelled out by a corner and a bunch of really big dudes ricocheting it in off someone's ass. Tough break, should have found a more effective way to score more goals. It makes many, many playstyles viable, there is no unified strategy.
      If goals from outside the penalty area counted as 2, that's all anyone would try to do. Teams who rely on counter-attacks down the flanks, teams who use set-pieces to create chances, and teams who play a slow, possession-based game all suffer. Every single one of those tactics has worked in the last 10 years.

    • @QuarkTwain
      @QuarkTwain ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Baseball is a little like that. If you hit a home run that just barely makes it at 356 feet, it's a score. Hit it 354 feet and it's probably an out. If you mishit it badly and it only makes it halfway, well that might be a double depending on which direction it went. A line drive might get you on base, but if you had hit it one degree more to the left it would have been an easy out.
      Even worse, the ball is nearly impossible to control. Batters are lucky to even hit the ball much of the time, so aiming it is a crap shoot. Batting takes a lot of skill, but each at bat involves a huge amount of luck. This is why the best teams only win about 60% of the time, and the playoffs are so unpredictable. If they wanted the best teams to win each playoff series, they'd need to play several dozen games.

    • @Ty91681
      @Ty91681 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@QuarkTwain there's plenty of hitters that can pick which direction they'd like to the ball based on their swing speed. Sure, not all can but certainly the best of best can and do. They can also control whether they hit a grounder or a sac fly for the most part. All those things are possible.

    • @cheesewizz_
      @cheesewizz_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

      now THAT’S scorigami

  • @paduryea47
    @paduryea47 6 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    Wow that curry stat blew my mind

  • @frio8
    @frio8 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1265

    so if the 3 pointer didnt exist then durant wouldnt have left okc because they beat golden state... right???

    • @abcitiseasyasonetwothree3066
      @abcitiseasyasonetwothree3066 7 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Koala ツ no, because the team players in each team would be different without the three. The history would change even more than he showed in this video and it is impossible to guess what would happen to the game. And watch some old school games when there was no three pointers. Those games were boring, because of tight defense close to the basket and only thing that made the game exciting was fast breaks.

    • @biggelations4647
      @biggelations4647 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Koala ツ OMGGG

    • @ABCDjjw
      @ABCDjjw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      He would've just gone to Cleveland instead lmao

    • @hyperbomb02
      @hyperbomb02 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's still a snake.

    • @lornevermore3521
      @lornevermore3521 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Abc it is easy as one two three *curry wouldnt be curry the 3 pointer drove people to shoot from distance so exclude all small ball 3 point deadeyes like curry and klay, that would gut the golden state warriors and make small ball nba a joke that means people like kyrie would have a harder time because while he can drive the 3 point arc pulls defenders out from under the rim so he can be the ankle breaking iso beast we all know and love losing the three point line would change the nba completely because suddenly a shot from distance doesnt mean as much and isnt worth the risk of a miss if theres not an extra point involved the nba would return to a slasher (LeBron and Westbrook) dominated league

  • @justinberg8687
    @justinberg8687 8 ปีที่แล้ว +555

    Saw the title and figured you would recalculate warrior games to measure against their historic season.... Imean holy shit man your awesome. the entire fucking league!!! plus the playoffs and that 100+ attempts accuracy/volume graph at the end....your fuckin boss dude, answering questions ive wonderee myself. you deserve waaaaay more subs.

    • @bivlo
      @bivlo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      you were only supposed to cuss if you found a problem.

    • @justinberg8687
      @justinberg8687 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just had the feeling he just likes cussing in general ;)

    • @mattbrigidi
      @mattbrigidi 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree -- it is so awesome that Jon took the time to do this

    • @0piumaeternum
      @0piumaeternum 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      greenbay champ the Cavs shoot more threes than us

  • @sk8rdman
    @sk8rdman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +272

    I don't watch sports.
    I just like graphs.

    • @godawgs1344
      @godawgs1344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You gotta love the graphs

    • @khairiisa7275
      @khairiisa7275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Don't forget charts and stats as well. 😉.

  • @maskedmarvel
    @maskedmarvel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    4:03
    Well, Angie must be pretty happy right about now

    • @fresh....
      @fresh.... 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nathan Davies yeah didn't age well

    • @icecreamforcrowhurst
      @icecreamforcrowhurst 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whereas right about now Angie must realize how much the Bucks still suck lol

    • @davidtempleton3624
      @davidtempleton3624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@icecreamforcrowhurst I would have to imagine angie is feeling pretty good right now.

    • @N279
      @N279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Go Angie

    • @thedude3065
      @thedude3065 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@icecreamforcrowhurst suuuuuuuuuuuuure

  • @someday7333
    @someday7333 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2093

    Ahaha this is a crazy amount of work. And it was an incredible watch, thanks.

  • @younusbendame742
    @younusbendame742 7 ปีที่แล้ว +748

    oh my god...
    I never realized... Curry is inhuman...

    • @Statalyzer
      @Statalyzer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      If only they had a three point line when Pistol Pete played.

    • @younusbendame742
      @younusbendame742 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Kyle Korver's percentage though! He is way too underrated to be shooting .492

    • @jbthestoner5504
      @jbthestoner5504 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Younus Bendame but that's all he does

    • @younusbendame742
      @younusbendame742 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yams fair enough

    • @Th3Shadowwalker
      @Th3Shadowwalker 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      There have been a lot of 3 specialists. Hes the best ever at what he does. He also set the record, while sharing with Klay who had the 3rd best 3pt season in history. Only to be topped by Steph twice. So.... yeah

  • @jordanleighton6893
    @jordanleighton6893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    There’s also a geometric reason for the relatively high percentage near the line. Defenders have to travel further, and that means it’s easier to get open space. There’s literally more space to cover out there, meaning even with the same level of effort it’d be more difficult to defend

  • @willdawg0053
    @willdawg0053 5 ปีที่แล้ว +887

    2016: Oh hey, Angie's a Bucks fan!
    2 years later when Jon is rewatching this video: Oh crap
    5 years later when the Bucks win the championship with a REALLY good 3 point shooting team: Aw Crabapples
    Edit: How tf did this get so many likes? I mean thank you but how?

    • @bena9369
      @bena9369 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Willdawg 00 i was thinking the same thing

    • @xd_caden
      @xd_caden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Lol I was thinking that to

    • @ktheai5908
      @ktheai5908 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Caden Norris haha me too. i saw that then went straight to the comment section

    • @alanvisosoroman
      @alanvisosoroman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Had to check the date because that comment makes no sense the past two seasons

    • @ubiifuruuu
      @ubiifuruuu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      laughing in khris middleton

  • @PrinceJayReal
    @PrinceJayReal 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1265

    That was actually a really great video.

    • @bivlo
      @bivlo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      better than Pretty Good? 👍

    • @justinberg8687
      @justinberg8687 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      nope ive watche Koo Dae-Sung 4-5 times (partially just to watch Randy Johnson explode that bird :) )

    • @tdotminney4986
      @tdotminney4986 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats pretty good

    • @AnEnemySpy456
      @AnEnemySpy456 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty, but not pretty good.

    • @jcpeters9007
      @jcpeters9007 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      King Jay No it was a pretty good video

  • @hiimemily
    @hiimemily 7 ปีที่แล้ว +511

    "Oh, hey, Angie's a Bucks fan!" I spit out my goddamn drink.

    • @alexcharmander8455
      @alexcharmander8455 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Emily Plays go bucks

    • @inactive2016
      @inactive2016 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking Grizzlies.

    • @cerealissoup84
      @cerealissoup84 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Clean it up

    • @edubz1906
      @edubz1906 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shit, he just fears the deer

    • @joshuasilva8168
      @joshuasilva8168 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Pretty funny in hindsight, Bucks take heaps of em now.

  • @grantdowling8550
    @grantdowling8550 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This is awesome. To come to the conclusion that the three point shot doesn’t really matter from this experiment is actually all the more reason to go for a shot that counts 1.5 times as much as a closer shot. Well done. So cool.

  • @anthroposkiego
    @anthroposkiego 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Every single Jon Bois video makes me feel like I’m in the middle of Japan in 2007 and I feel like I’m inside of a Wii... it’s very nostalgic and I love it so much

  • @rossjames8839
    @rossjames8839 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1672

    I am so sorry for your loss. You know, of hours of your life that you'll never get back. But!
    But as of writing this, this video has 1,000 views and is 10 minutes long. Ergo, you have provided from this 10,000 minutes worth of entertainment, or 166 hours. Since it's got a dislike, let's call it 165 hours of successful fantastic work.
    And the video's only been up for five hours!

    • @biscoole
      @biscoole 8 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Oh, what a difference 2 weeks can make!

    • @kard1329
      @kard1329 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      THOSE 260 PEOPLE THAT DISLIKED THIS. . . HOW?

    • @mshbeatbox
      @mshbeatbox 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      now it has 160toes more views

    • @Jdawgg.0
      @Jdawgg.0 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      KARD132 because 1:15

    • @peepsyogi
      @peepsyogi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ....... *mind blown*

  • @GoobEpicSwag
    @GoobEpicSwag 7 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    The 3 gives small players a chance

    • @gassedupgookie5302
      @gassedupgookie5302 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kblayney mid range?

    • @GamesWithHunter
      @GamesWithHunter 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Kblayney
      Isaiah Thomas can almost always push through to get the layup and he's 5'9"

    • @travz21
      @travz21 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Thomas can do that because defenders have to guard him at the 3-point line. Without the 3-pointer he would have absolutely zero chance to get to the rim because the defense would pack it in and always be in front of him. Proper offensive spacing and the threat of shooting a 3 allows guards to be a threat at the rim as well.

    • @kannon9088
      @kannon9088 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +HunterK that is because his team gives him hella screens lol they have plays specifically for Isaiah going into the paint

    • @greigns7781
      @greigns7781 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HunterK Isaiah Thomas has been traveling all year and it hasn't been noticed until lately...... that's why he can get in the paint

  • @grisgarcon8
    @grisgarcon8 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This was in my recommended every day for 10 days straight and I finally see why

  • @AdamFerrari64
    @AdamFerrari64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    That thing with Steph at the end was amazing. Scary how dominant he is from the arc

  • @86puffpuff86
    @86puffpuff86 7 ปีที่แล้ว +686

    heres the thing....... the 3 pt shot is a crowd hyper, and can CHANGE the vibe in the arena weather ur home or away.... and u cant chart that.

    • @86puffpuff86
      @86puffpuff86 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      for instance ur the away team and ur down 6...... thats 3 times down the court, but 2 back to back dagger 3's and tie game..... now the crowd isnt as strong and some players feed off of that. THATS why we need the 3 pt line... its just too bad some teams ONLY shoot 3's.

    • @86puffpuff86
      @86puffpuff86 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      sure, but thats not the argument....

    • @86puffpuff86
      @86puffpuff86 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      more to my point of being down 6, lets say there was 34secs left in the game..... two 3's back to back would take the home team out of it.....OR hype the shit out of the home team. then lets says OT hits, now the team that hit the 3's is hot even tho the score is tied. sure 3 dunks would do the same but in the 34secs scenario, its much less likely.

    • @86puffpuff86
      @86puffpuff86 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      also if no 3's the warriors dont win 73 games only 59..... the crowd IS WHY they shot so many. they are also THE REASON for this exact video, because they shoot too many and some ppl like myself dont like it.

    • @199523nick
      @199523nick 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      DR. SAVAGE wait, so you're saying that if there wasn't a 3 pt they would automatically lose nearly 20 more games? If what you are doing is taking their made 3s and making them 2s then that doesn't work because then you have to factor in their field goal percentages and most likely they wouldn't shoot from so far away if there was no need making their likelihood of making the shot go up. So say they were a 40% 3pt shooter but had a 80% FG that would technically mean if they were 2-4 from the 3pt changing that to 2pts would technically mean they would make an extra shot so they'd be 3-4. Another thing the Warriors aren't the team that leads the league in 3pt attempts they are actually 5th behind Houston, Cleveland, Boston, and Brooklyn in that order. And they are 3rd in % behind San Antonio and Cleveland tho they are tied on the season with Cleveland. But I made my point. And I agree with yours that the 3 is not boring nor does it make the game worse, I've always been a fan of basketball but rarely watched the regular season, but the past 2 years I watch every game that comes on tv (dependent on the teams) because generally I'm guaranteed some kind of excitement. (Especially with the recent game winners and game tying buzzer beaters)

  • @gumersindocebollero3261
    @gumersindocebollero3261 8 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I had to turn down the volume on that jazz at the end, people might think I'm watching softcore porn.

  • @phoenixadeney5425
    @phoenixadeney5425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    3:11 haha it's a watermelon

  • @onjadar
    @onjadar 7 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    How did you NOT give up half-way into producing the work for this video, my GOd I don't know how you did it. Great Stuff.

  • @astara21
    @astara21 7 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    Haters gonna hate, but a star above the rest, is still a star above the rest.

  • @RespectYourViews
    @RespectYourViews 7 ปีที่แล้ว +415

    Holy cow is that stephen curry season an outlier!

    • @michael_v2624
      @michael_v2624 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      no it isn't its the same shooting percentage, he just had more opprotunities to shoot.

    • @tulstra
      @tulstra 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      michael carandang it's an outlier because of how many he made regardless of whether or not his percentage changed

    • @theeditor8776
      @theeditor8776 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      michael carandang it’s a massive outlier, what are you talking about?

    • @mal2ksc
      @mal2ksc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      .454 is well above average 3-point shooting, even before you factor in the sheer volume.

    • @jessie4351
      @jessie4351 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It might be an outlier but all I see is greatness

  • @ratone1983
    @ratone1983 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love Chart Party! The voice-over, the music, the visual style... and of course, the actual content. I like to geek out on stats, and now I have someone to look up to. I think the 3pt is something great because it makes it possible for guys like Curry, who are not all that physical, to become game changing factors. Not better, not worse, but it makes it more fun when it's not the same old huge-guy-pushes-towards-the-rim. Nothing against that, it's just that the contrast makes it all shine brighter. Watching LeBron James and Steph Curry at once in the same universe is great. I say it's a keeper.

  • @officialvisaural
    @officialvisaural 7 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Okay seriously... What's the music used in the video? Especially at the end when Curry's star is shown all alone. Darn, that sax is heavenly and those underlying chords are blissful.

    • @SlowJamz98
      @SlowJamz98 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      did you ever find out?

    • @the.seagull.35
      @the.seagull.35 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@SlowJamz98 Legend has it that he is still wondering to this day

    • @ryannsmall
      @ryannsmall 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Beneath The Rainbow - Mladen Franko, google it

    • @davidbranch7425
      @davidbranch7425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@ryannsmall ur a hero that will probably never know you brought the people hope when there was none

    • @officialvisaural
      @officialvisaural 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Found it after six years - Beneath the Rainbow by Malden Franko. The last time I tried to look for it, it wasn’t available on major streaming sites. That has changed.
      I remember there was a comment here that said the same thing, so thank you.

  • @silentcougarr39
    @silentcougarr39 7 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I like threes because without them last minute upsets wouldn't be as common, and whenever someone does a half court or full court shot, it would be less likely to cause an upset

    • @bena9369
      @bena9369 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Silent Cougarr lmao im imagining someone shooting a ball 70 feet in hopes of scoring a game winning 2

    • @jamesmeuwissen7823
      @jamesmeuwissen7823 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bena9369 like Jerry West in the 1970 finals?

    • @swinde
      @swinde 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a college game from the 70s or 80s where a Virginia Tech player was credited with an 89 foot two pointer to win the game. However the replay showed his plant foot on the base line, so the shot should not have been scored. Officials did not review plays in those days.

    • @LeoAr37
      @LeoAr37 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just implement NORTH KOREA'S BASKETBALL SCORING RULES
      - Slam dunks are worth three points (up from two)
      - Field goals in the final three minutes of the game are worth eight points (up from two)
      - Three-pointers are worth four if the ball doesn't touch the rim
      - A point is deducted for missed free throws

    • @lepidoptery
      @lepidoptery 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LeoAr37 the last 3min thing is bs but the others sound kind of fun. i mean, the 3pt dunk is a no for the NBA but I've got to assume NK basketball players are (local and) significantly shorter than NBA players generally are, so maybe it is that much more difficult to dunk vs. make a layup and thus reasonably worth the extra point.

  • @owenhouck5281
    @owenhouck5281 8 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    You should have way more subs for the amount of work you put into these videos.

  • @midnight_cocoa6053
    @midnight_cocoa6053 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    "It took me a long time, but I did it. Because I'm bored." Spoken like a true nerd

  • @jordananastasiadis
    @jordananastasiadis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude, your videos are so good!!! The writing is clear, polished, and entertaining, and the editing is simple yet unique. Most importantly, your ideas are just so damn fun! I've just discovered your series, and I'm so glad. Clear and intelligent sports commentary exists!

  • @venicemenace
    @venicemenace 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    That last graph blew my mind. Just announced I will be signing with the Warriors next season

  • @robpfile
    @robpfile 8 ปีที่แล้ว +426

    um... holy hell, did you use google earth to make these animations??

    • @looking_33
      @looking_33 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wow! I was wondering how he did these! That seems to be how. Great observation.

    • @robpfile
      @robpfile 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      yeah i happened to notice some weird copyright notices flashing at the bottom at some point. i guess you can load custom textures into google earth?? dunno

    • @jonbois
      @jonbois  8 ปีที่แล้ว +134

      ha, yep! i tried to crop out the usage credits at the bottom that Google Earth thought i was using, but certain areas use multiple lines of credit so they creeped into the video a couple times

    • @robpfile
      @robpfile 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      really awesome tho, a great "off-label" use for GE!

    • @RollOnToVictory
      @RollOnToVictory 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      How do you custom google earth?

  • @saydaddy91
    @saydaddy91 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s genuinely amazing how long it took for people to realize that 33% from 3 produces the same amount of points as 50% from 2

  • @itsseeoh
    @itsseeoh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Needed to watch something like this tonight. Thanks so much Jon Bois, you’re a lifesaver and an inspiration to all us aspiring artist/sports stat nerds ❤️

  • @foompthedroid
    @foompthedroid 8 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I have zero opinion on NBA. I mean, absolute zero. THIS, however, I have a divisive opinion on. This video was fantastic. The concept and execution was top notch. The writing and narration, superb. Graphics and visuals are excellent. You made the content interesting and intriguing despite me having zero interest in it. Your deep research and efforts did not go unappreciated. I have subscribed and hope to see more of your work in the future.

    • @noitallmanaz
      @noitallmanaz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      except all of it is hogwash... but that is what happens when math people try to make sense of basketball.

    • @Rickkelley365
      @Rickkelley365 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      noitall man Hahahaha hater. Make a better one

  • @BenThompsonHistory
    @BenThompsonHistory 8 ปีที่แล้ว +509

    Oh hey Jon, I watched your video and I have to say that I think it is pretty good.

    • @slanky5940
      @slanky5940 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Wrong series

    • @BenThompsonHistory
      @BenThompsonHistory 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      crap

    • @drafarieninga123o
      @drafarieninga123o 8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      +John Storm Hey, that's pretty good!

    • @ChristopherEsplin
      @ChristopherEsplin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Pretty good!

    • @novasnotvibing
      @novasnotvibing 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Bryan White oh, hey bryan. white, i saw your response to a comment and i have to say its pretty good.

  • @AdmiralEggroll
    @AdmiralEggroll 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Because I'm bored, and because I love ya"
    That's the moment I reached for the like button.

  • @literallasagna7864
    @literallasagna7864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Alternative title: Steph Curry is a god

  • @PapaJenkinz
    @PapaJenkinz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +299

    How did u even do this holy shit. This is so amazing. The chart at the end is crazy

    • @michaeljordan6239
      @michaeljordan6239 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jonathan Stiles stfu

    • @lebozojamessimp1610
      @lebozojamessimp1610 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@michaeljordan6239 why are you so mad

    • @jameskirk1161
      @jameskirk1161 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lebozojamessimp1610 he must be from Baltimore like me 😢

  • @neilwilks8640
    @neilwilks8640 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I would subscribe 1 million times if I could. Your work is worthy of more than just TH-cam. ESPN, SC, Heck! Even a non-sports station would be more than pleased with your graphic design skills and editing prowess. keep up with what you're doing, and I guaranteed you're channel(and success) will blow-up and to something even more amazing than it already is! keep up the great work!

  • @thomasc9123
    @thomasc9123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This deserves way more views for the amount of work you did... great vid

  • @myfrit
    @myfrit 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Found this video almost 2 years later... and well done! This was fascinating to watch!

  • @SnapImaX
    @SnapImaX 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is an impressive artwork of craftmanship.

  • @timaullini
    @timaullini 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Mr. Bois, I used your technique about 4 months ago to make a video for my dad's 50th birthday (following the example of your Koo Dae Sung video), and, having finished it, my question to you is this:
    how mane freakin' waypoints did you actually set? i mean, HOLY SMOKES, aside from doing heaps of stat analysis, how many hours were put in to arrange this amazingness?
    seriously, mr. Bois (i would type Jon, but I like saying mr. Bois in my head), i spent approx. 6 hours straight arranging the pics and setting up waypoints and still my video looked like poop.
    now i'm sad.

    • @jonbois
      @jonbois  7 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      don't be sad! my first few attempts using Google Earth to visualize stuff looked like crap. the process can be pretty clunky, since you're asking it to do something it wasn't really meant to do. definitely took me a while to get a feel for it.

    • @longevitee
      @longevitee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jon Bois Here is an example of an excellent person.

  • @danparish1344
    @danparish1344 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got chills at the end seeing Steph way up there. Insane. This was a really cool project.

  • @gavinyeet5821
    @gavinyeet5821 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There needs to be an updated version of this. Even just a couple years ago 3’s were quite a bit less important than I would think they are now, but really their purpose is to space the floor properly.

  • @lildmckay
    @lildmckay 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I don't even watch basketball but this was fascinating.

  • @billynamer
    @billynamer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    Imagine the physicality if there wasn't a three point line? We would be back in the 90s and the center position would be relevant.

    • @paintballjhm
      @paintballjhm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Bill Mitchell that would be incredibly boring

    • @billynamer
      @billynamer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Flats incredibly boring? Lol the NBA is boring to watch now since they limited the center position .

    • @lukamagicc
      @lukamagicc 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Bill Mitchell such a naive argument when people say basketball is boring cause it's not physical. It was NEVER about that. Go watch football.
      With no 3, and pretending this dudes reasearch was wrong(centers would matter more) then we'd watch a game slow as hell with twice as many fucking fouls

    • @travz21
      @travz21 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The game is more physical now than it's ever been. Jordan never got arm barred or hand checked as much as everyone says. There is much more of it today against shooters and point guards. Watch any good shooter run around screens and you'll see him get chucked and grabbed all game.

    • @travz21
      @travz21 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And to the original point, a center that can shoot 3s is probably the most valuable player in the league. It allows your offense to space out nicely and you also have the option to post up/kick out to the open man or just go up and dunk it. Centers will always be relevant. But the 3-pointer is the most valuable shot in basketball and centers have been slow to adapt until now.

  • @TonyKellogg
    @TonyKellogg 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this series every time I see a new one. This was incredible.

  • @vzm4663
    @vzm4663 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well made video! The analyzation and chart graphics were very well done 😃
    That star chart with the 3-pointers really put Curry's amazing feat into perspective 🔥

  • @thatrealsteven7085
    @thatrealsteven7085 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    are you kidding me, you did ALL OF THIS?! You are hard core amazing. GREAT VIDEO!

  • @tnk4me4
    @tnk4me4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Watching this video for the fourth time makes me realize that I need a 2020 version of this video.

  • @tram9453
    @tram9453 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was incredible. The music, the editing, the commentary... and of course, what an ending.

  • @busterboy219
    @busterboy219 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I rarely ever comment, but this video needs its due praise. This analysis of the NBA 3 point line is brilliant; the subject matter is interesting, the commentary is witty, informative, and well-delivered, and the visuals are entertaining, insightful, and complementary to the subject material. Sir, you have gained a subscriber.

  • @lachlanraidal5100
    @lachlanraidal5100 7 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    If you play basketball you will understand why the three point line is important; smaller players, who would easily be blocked around the basket, can compensate for their lack of height by having the skill to shoot at a longer range. These shots, being harder to hit, must be worth a greater amount of points in order to make up for their comparatively low accuracy. TLDR; the three point line makes size less of an advantage to players, and thus increases the overall level of skill displayed in professional (and recreational basketball). + they allow for tense, high risk, high reward game winners to be taken, which are gripping to watch.

    • @UAlredyKnowWhatItIss
      @UAlredyKnowWhatItIss 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Lachlan Raidal your tldr is about the same length as your original post lol

    • @bioshockftw123isBACK
      @bioshockftw123isBACK 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lachlan Raidal so midrange shots don't exist?

    • @dudewat212
      @dudewat212 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lachlan Raidal .... So, in that case, why not make half-court shots worth 4-points. "High risk, high reward"... Right?

    • @1000aaronaaronaaron
      @1000aaronaaronaaron 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      dudewT212 honestly that could be a great idea. especially with how good curry is from almost half court. ive seen bron do it too. and if buzzer beaters from half court were 4 points then that would be crazzzzy. but people don't usually take that risk unless its buzzer beater.

    • @Naavy2022
      @Naavy2022 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lachlan Raidal your TLDR is the same length as the first half of your comment lol

  • @noahstotland7071
    @noahstotland7071 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome video. Huge fan of the chart party series.
    What would happen if the NBA started valuing baskets based upon distance to the net? We could make farther shots worth more than closer shots but not 1.5 times more, like how it currently is (3pts is 1.5*2pts), which is too much. We should do a little study to determine some equation that values baskets as a function of distance to the net in a fair way so that the expected value of any shot from basically anywhere on the court is the same.
    This way teams would be simply trying to take the most open shot from anywhere on the court, without having to worry about the drastic difference of value of a 3pt vs. 2pt shot.

  • @kujo5998
    @kujo5998 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These vids are awesome. I absolutely love the random kenny g saxing goin on from time to time! And the 80’s cheesey sitcom music the rest of the time!

  • @MrMaxila
    @MrMaxila 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whilst arbitrary I think the shape of the 3 point line is pretty clever - can't bank shots off the glass from the corners, so bringing the distance in a bit makes it fairer to let people have a go at 3s around the court. Amazing video man 😃

  • @ddting00
    @ddting00 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If the 3 point line is removed, defenses may adjust and sag down and the 40% all across the board may drop.

    • @gregoryeverson741
      @gregoryeverson741 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      back to the 80-90s when you shoot 33% you a goo shooter, oh kids practice throwing up crap, to make shot now

    • @zanti4132
      @zanti4132 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's correct. It's important to realize that a made three-point shot is worth 50% more points than a two-pointer, so those 33% and 34% success rates from the three-point line are equal to a 50% success rate from inside the arc. And, since the ONLY 50% spot is right under the basket, the three-pointer become the percentage play to maximize your score.
      Take away the three-pointer, and the defense just focuses on stopping the easy shots from close in. Basketball becomes less a shooter's game, more a big man's game. With the defense no longer forced to spread out, the game becomes less interesting (in my opinion, anyway).

  • @AlexMoreno-zj7po
    @AlexMoreno-zj7po 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My 3rd fave jon bois video ever mainly cause of the reveal of that star on the last chart
    Amazing

  • @tyler8447
    @tyler8447 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    That last Steph Curry stat is insane. Congratulations on finishing this whole video, I can't even imagine how much work it took but we thank you in full!

  • @JohnSmith-tv9ou
    @JohnSmith-tv9ou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't follow any sport but these videos are always amazing, entertaining, and help me appreciate the outliers.

  • @josephcraker8539
    @josephcraker8539 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    savage with the bucks joke Jon

  • @hudsonhibbs1251
    @hudsonhibbs1251 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Rip three point contest

    • @T0YCHEST
      @T0YCHEST 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      THUG DOGE dunk contest would be fire dubking from the 23ft out wouldnt be a 3pt dunk

  • @ElijahJenkins2196
    @ElijahJenkins2196 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is incredible. Props to you for all the work

  • @BillHFA
    @BillHFA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The sentence "Thanks to guys like him, basketball is completely horrible and everything is ruined forever" alone deserves thumbs up. Great video yet again!

  • @kingfrubby1
    @kingfrubby1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In the end where you showed Curry's last season I got goosebumps

  • @trey1645
    @trey1645 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:16 correction: that red area is DeMar DeRozan Land.

  • @collinmoody5467
    @collinmoody5467 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my favorite TH-cam videos ever!!! Great job!

  • @jarub7641
    @jarub7641 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    this video needs way more respect! the idea and work is just incredible!

  • @A1Levick
    @A1Levick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yooo that part about the bucks had me dying.

  • @eviljulian99
    @eviljulian99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Angie's a Bucks fan" yo the Bucks were so ass at 3s in 2015. I hope she's still a Bucks fan

  • @A3Hoops
    @A3Hoops 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you TH-cam algorithm for making me rewatch this gem.

  • @miloda_bess
    @miloda_bess ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone who decided to watch a video about a hypothetical world where 3 points don’t exist in a season that my team won the big thing in a sport I know nothing about instead of sleeping, I was not disappointed.

  • @ryebread5989
    @ryebread5989 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    hey Angie's a bucks fan, I'm a bucks fan and I'm hurt, even tho it's true

    • @sinisterfootwearii5918
      @sinisterfootwearii5918 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      hello from the future, looks like the Bucks are pretty damn good now

  • @suni070
    @suni070 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    holy shitttt!!!!! you went to work respect🐐🐐👌

  • @zachneumann1962
    @zachneumann1962 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro you deserve way more credit for all this work you put it on replaying all these games omg

  • @TheNikoShowTV
    @TheNikoShowTV 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are fantastic. Thanks for making them, keep being you man.

  • @xXSprMgaAwsmFxyHtXx
    @xXSprMgaAwsmFxyHtXx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is amazing, I love the visual representations of the data rather than just throwing numbers on the screen

  • @longevitee
    @longevitee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where can I find the music in this video?

  • @mohedaicebear
    @mohedaicebear 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The music.the stat lines. The voice. The narrative. It was just so good. Especially the end.

  • @papacristian6853
    @papacristian6853 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    the amount of work put on this video is incredible. Big up!

  • @haydenallen23
    @haydenallen23 7 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    as a bucks fan I wish there was no line

  • @KapperTube
    @KapperTube 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you watched this and didn't give it a thumbs up, you have no ability to say thank you for anything.

  • @michaelgreer3512
    @michaelgreer3512 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your stuff! Incredible analysis!

  • @xx_sanic_da_heg_hoge_xx420
    @xx_sanic_da_heg_hoge_xx420 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't even watch basketball and I'm grinning from ear to ear.
    I love these videos so much.

  • @Prince_Yonte
    @Prince_Yonte 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Music choice is Legit

  • @_MrMoney
    @_MrMoney 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gregg Popovich's wet dream

  • @Psychonaut165
    @Psychonaut165 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you realize John bois invented the Jimmy high roller, “and wait a second we are missing one… oh, there it is.”

  • @randomdude12370
    @randomdude12370 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is fascinating. And thank you for taking the time to do the math and re score! I can't imagine how much pain that caused haha