I'm glad that I found at least one video of a real comparison of the difference in the more popular GPU segment, and not these 4090 used by 3.5 miners.
This is far more useful information for most gamers! I dont know why the big channels insist on using 4090's when less than 1% of gamers have one. Most people wont see any benefits in the 9800x3d.
It’s because they are testing full capability of the CPU. To use the full capability of it, you need to make sure there’s as little of a bottleneck as possible. So you should use the most power graphics you can, which is the 4090 at the time of this comment. But I do agree there should be more testing as well using more accessible cards. But from what I’ve learned from this, you pair a 9800x3d with a 7900xt/xtx, 4070ti S/80/90 then you probably won’t be getting too much benefit on average. There’s some that stick out with benefits, but it doesn’t seem like too much.
@@roflewafe47 Absolutely agree. In my case the CPU upgrade cycle is double the time than GPU cycle (5-6 years vs 2-3 years), so the faster CPU will shine better later in its lifecycle.
Could you do 7700x vs 7800x3d vs 9800x3d vs 7900x3d vs 7950x3d on 4k 4090 games include Black Myth Wukong, FF 16 or FF7 Remake, Ghost of Tsushima, Resident Evil 4 Remake and other games of your choice
@pedropierre9594 with 5 tweak 9700x can beat or do similar performance as 7 7800x3d 9700x has more room for ram overclocking and can support higher memory that x3d cheap does not benefit from higher ram speed
Exactly what I was looking for, ignore all the haters who ask stupid questions about why benchmark at 1440 and with a 4070 instead of a 4090 in 1080, not all of us have access to a 4090 and if I did I wouldn't play at 1080, this It is a more realistic scenario for an average gamer and I was looking for a processor to play at 1440 with my 7800xt, and for the result I will opt for the 9600x, I don't need a 9800x3d, keep up the good work!
Just in my opinion, I think X3D doesn't help anything in AAA games in 2K res? Because mostly everyone is talking 1080p and only E-sport titles like varolant or PUBG performance. Because mostly I played only AAA games in 2K or 4K DLSS Quality that means the final resolution is still rendering at 2K from 4K settings am I right? If 2K is still not that different that means 4K has no gap too without a doubt. And I'm looking for 9800x3d and it's very hard to find. So I'm thinking about 9950x for 645 USD in my country. Maybe this is a good choice?
IMHO for everyone NOT chasing ultra high fps for competitive gaming at low resolution, X processors are a better choice. I'd take the 9900x over 9800x3d any day, because it's 90% as fast in games, but literally twice as fast outside of gaming and in everything else, meaning your computer will feel way faster day to day and especially in productivity. Also, one thing x3d fanboys always cunningly keep quiet about and never mention it, is the fact that v-cache doesn't do anything in a lot of games, and the performance of the CPU's is not consistent, they'll perform well one time, not the other time, it's like depending on so many factors including what windows decides to do, you need the Xbox gaming thing on PC enabled, etc.
@@derbigpr500 You say exactly right. But I saw the test from Hardware Unboxed channel with 4k dlss balance is significantly improved for some titles but some titles is almost the same either. Mostly I saw x3d gonna get hype in 1080 with competitive titles in the community but I'm so curious if x3d can finally do something for AAA games or not because my research led me to more confusing lol Overall, For me the results look like they are mixing right now. But if Hardware Unboxed were right the 9950x3d would be the end game processor for this generation. But I want to know how much they're gonna be charged when Intel collapses in this generation. Because 645 USD for the 9950x is already a good deal to me
you need a better GPU . also pls test helldivers 2 but show us all the cores utilization some cpus are hitting cpu limit on some cores . i wanna know how 9800x3d is used
I have to order my new custom desktop in a week n this will be my 1 n only main pc no upgrading want it to be best possible SO really looking best and long term which should get 9800/9900/9950 just seems strange that the 16 core wouldnt be the best. Or maybe the 9950 long term maybe might make it better use of the cores later? Yes not detail pc savy but idk just seems weird. Lot of vids been seeing that 9800 get 15-30 fps over the 9950 idk y if consistent with other investigating. If someone can please hell asap on this as gota decide if spending tons at Origin for the 5090 pc. N if do what cpu i should go with. This custom pc at origin will be my be all end all pc so i gota make sure picking the best to last.
Im looking to upgrade my PC. Honestquestion: Is there a proper "harmony" that PC parts need to have with each other? Example: A 4K monitor needs a Rysen 7 and a 4080 super. If you pair a 4070 with a VERY good monitor and a VERY good CPU, won't the computer just run the helldivers game at the "lowest common denominator"? Plz write back PS. I think theres a better way to ask. Is there a most optimal configuration to make a great working PC? Tier1: R7 4080 Tier2: R5 4070 Tier3: R3 4060 just an example
Until recently I had a AMD Ryzen 5 5500 (yes, the worst possible CPU you can imagine, lowest of the low sub 100€) and a RTX4070 Super. Ran all games at 4K (PUBG, Apex, BF5, BeamNG, AC, iRacing, BF2042, CS2, etc.) that I play, mostly all maxed out settings, and it was perfectly fine to run all these games at locked 144 fps for my 144 hz 4K monitor. In windows it was horrible, very laggy, so annoying, literally right clicking on desktop to make the dropdown menu pop up took 2-3 seconds to react, overall a very sluggish feeling system in windows due to 5500 ryzen, but in games, zero problem, it wasn't even bottlenecking the CPU too much as it was at above 95% often.
4k gaming is almost all about GPU for 95 percent of modern games, if you're comparing modern cpu's. 1440p / 1080p the cpu becomes more important. Even at 1440p/1080p the highest end gaming cpu's are overpriced, besides niches like 360/480hz esport gaming, or a niche game you play that performs best with X3D. Highly recommend a 1440p or 4k 120hz+ GOOD Ips / OLED and as good as a gpu you can buy with a 7600 / 7800x3d or 9600/9700/9800x3d. Purely for cost saving 5700x3d / 5700x / 5600 or even 12th gen intel on sale are also great you can build extremely cheap and pair it with a higher end GPU. At the moment 4070 Ti Super or below is the only thing I would personally consider. If you really have the money and care about 4k gaming nothing comes close to the 4090 ( but 5090 is coming VERY soon ).
@@SinStarfire thanks for the reply. Im the type of person who builds a great PC and use ps it for like 5 years. Whats the reason you wouldn’t use a 4080 Super?
no entiendo este reviu, claro que van a dar todos iguales porque la gpu esta a tope, esto se hace en 1080 hijo. para 2 k tenesd que usar mínimo una 4080 super o 4090, le pongo un ryzen 3600 y va a dar lo mismo 2 frames menos.
vas a jugar a 1080 con un cpu reciente y con una rtx 4070? te creo para trabajo pero para que gastar mas si la diferencia en uso real en juegos es de una media insignificante
No, the CPUs were bottlenecked by the GPU in this video. If you use a faster GPU (as I have seen in other benchmarks) the difference between the 9600X and 9800X3D is 35-50% on average. This is why GPU pairing is important so that you don't waste money that gets caught in bottlenecks. If you plan to buy a midrange card, then use a midrange processor because otherwise you are wasting money. Personally I buy a new CPU about every 5, maybe 6 years, so the X3D will have longer legs, since my GPU turnover is higher (about every 2-3 years), so the CPU choice shines later. Where I am from the ~800X3D is about double the price than the ~600X, but that price difference is less than a third or quarter of a graphics card, so relatively a cheap jump.
Yeah, high mid range GPU, so of course the midrange CPU keeps up well. Would be curious to see the same benchmark with a card from 3 years in the future (like maybe a RTX7070 Super or something), I bet then the higher CPUs will show better performance.
![The FASTEST Gaming PC Build Right Now! 🚀 [Ryzen 9800X3D & RTX 4090 w/ 4K Benchmarks!]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gHaQ0F7xL3M/mqdefault.jpg)
I'm glad that I found at least one video of a real comparison of the difference in the more popular GPU segment, and not these 4090 used by 3.5 miners.
This is far more useful information for most gamers! I dont know why the big channels insist on using 4090's when less than 1% of gamers have one. Most people wont see any benefits in the 9800x3d.
It’s because they are testing full capability of the CPU. To use the full capability of it, you need to make sure there’s as little of a bottleneck as possible. So you should use the most power graphics you can, which is the 4090 at the time of this comment.
But I do agree there should be more testing as well using more accessible cards.
But from what I’ve learned from this, you pair a 9800x3d with a 7900xt/xtx, 4070ti S/80/90 then you probably won’t be getting too much benefit on average. There’s some that stick out with benefits, but it doesn’t seem like too much.
@@roflewafe47 Absolutely agree. In my case the CPU upgrade cycle is double the time than GPU cycle (5-6 years vs 2-3 years), so the faster CPU will shine better later in its lifecycle.
Simply...Thank you!
9600x + 5070ti❤
Could you do 7700x vs 7800x3d vs 9800x3d vs 7900x3d vs 7950x3d on 4k 4090 games include Black Myth Wukong, FF 16 or FF7 Remake, Ghost of Tsushima, Resident Evil 4 Remake and other games of your choice
9900x is much cheaper here in my country. Seems to be a good choice
9700X needs 105W TDP configuration
Then they wont be able to sell you the 9700x3D
@pedropierre9594 Of course because I have 9800X3D 😄 But it is not about TDP for X3D series.
@pedropierre9594 with 5 tweak 9700x can beat or do similar performance as 7 7800x3d 9700x has more room for ram overclocking and can support higher memory that x3d cheap does not benefit from higher ram speed
Can someone tell me what is the name of the monitoring software used in this video to monitor the CPU temps? Thanks you!
I think It's better to compare 1% fps than average.... btw good video
Please, test same CPUs and GPU in 1080p, and if you could include Warzone 3, thanks.
Exactly what I was looking for, ignore all the haters who ask stupid questions about why benchmark at 1440 and with a 4070 instead of a 4090 in 1080, not all of us have access to a 4090 and if I did I wouldn't play at 1080, this It is a more realistic scenario for an average gamer and I was looking for a processor to play at 1440 with my 7800xt, and for the result I will opt for the 9600x, I don't need a 9800x3d, keep up the good work!
Just in my opinion, I think X3D doesn't help anything in AAA games in 2K res? Because mostly everyone is talking 1080p and only E-sport titles like varolant or PUBG performance.
Because mostly I played only AAA games in 2K or 4K DLSS Quality that means the final resolution is still rendering at 2K from 4K settings am I right?
If 2K is still not that different that means 4K has no gap too without a doubt. And I'm looking for 9800x3d and it's very hard to find. So I'm thinking about 9950x for 645 USD in my country. Maybe this is a good choice?
IMHO for everyone NOT chasing ultra high fps for competitive gaming at low resolution, X processors are a better choice. I'd take the 9900x over 9800x3d any day, because it's 90% as fast in games, but literally twice as fast outside of gaming and in everything else, meaning your computer will feel way faster day to day and especially in productivity. Also, one thing x3d fanboys always cunningly keep quiet about and never mention it, is the fact that v-cache doesn't do anything in a lot of games, and the performance of the CPU's is not consistent, they'll perform well one time, not the other time, it's like depending on so many factors including what windows decides to do, you need the Xbox gaming thing on PC enabled, etc.
@@derbigpr500 9900x has 12 cores compared to 8 cores in 9800x3d. So it should be not more than 1.5 faster
I bought a CPU 9950x two weeks ago and I'm happy as an elephant🤗
@@derbigpr500 You say exactly right. But I saw the test from Hardware Unboxed channel with 4k dlss balance is significantly improved for some titles but some titles is almost the same either. Mostly I saw x3d gonna get hype in 1080 with competitive titles in the community but I'm so curious if x3d can finally do something for AAA games or not because my research led me to more confusing lol
Overall, For me the results look like they are mixing right now. But if Hardware Unboxed were right the 9950x3d would be the end game processor for this generation. But I want to know how much they're gonna be charged when Intel collapses in this generation. Because 645 USD for the 9950x is already a good deal to me
wukong benchmark seems off that game isn't even cpu bound how is the difference that large? 🤔
9900x ❤️
My 9950x👍🤝💪
how is your experience with that cpu also planning on getting it
@@Titan_Z1 Hey I got the same one, its awesome I highly recommend it. It's absolutely the snappiest CPU in Windows & still a beast for gaming.
The Winner is: Wukong ! 😂🎉
Interesting that the Ryzen 5 9600x has at or near the best 1% and 0.1% numbers.
you need a better GPU . also pls test helldivers 2 but show us all the cores utilization some cpus are hitting cpu limit on some cores . i wanna know how 9800x3d is used
Watch my other video with a RTX 4090
I have to order my new custom desktop in a week n this will be my 1 n only main pc no upgrading want it to be best possible
SO really looking best and long term which should get 9800/9900/9950 just seems strange that the 16 core wouldnt be the best. Or maybe the 9950 long term maybe might make it better use of the cores later? Yes not detail pc savy but idk just seems weird. Lot of vids been seeing that 9800 get 15-30 fps over the 9950 idk y if consistent with other investigating.
If someone can please hell asap on this as gota decide if spending tons at Origin for the 5090 pc. N if do what cpu i should go with. This custom pc at origin will be my be all end all pc so i gota make sure picking the best to last.
also see the 9950 requiring a lot more power then the 9800.
1080p testing pls
Im looking to upgrade my PC.
Honestquestion: Is there a proper "harmony" that PC parts need to have with each other?
Example: A 4K monitor needs a Rysen 7 and a 4080 super.
If you pair a 4070 with a VERY good monitor and a VERY good CPU, won't the computer just run the helldivers game at the "lowest common denominator"?
Plz write back
PS. I think theres a better way to ask. Is there a most optimal configuration to make a great working PC?
Tier1: R7 4080
Tier2: R5 4070
Tier3: R3 4060
just an example
All ways get the fastest CPU possible and invest money on a good motherboard for lag free gaming
Until recently I had a AMD Ryzen 5 5500 (yes, the worst possible CPU you can imagine, lowest of the low sub 100€) and a RTX4070 Super. Ran all games at 4K (PUBG, Apex, BF5, BeamNG, AC, iRacing, BF2042, CS2, etc.) that I play, mostly all maxed out settings, and it was perfectly fine to run all these games at locked 144 fps for my 144 hz 4K monitor. In windows it was horrible, very laggy, so annoying, literally right clicking on desktop to make the dropdown menu pop up took 2-3 seconds to react, overall a very sluggish feeling system in windows due to 5500 ryzen, but in games, zero problem, it wasn't even bottlenecking the CPU too much as it was at above 95% often.
4k gaming is almost all about GPU for 95 percent of modern games, if you're comparing modern cpu's. 1440p / 1080p the cpu becomes more important. Even at 1440p/1080p the highest end gaming cpu's are overpriced, besides niches like 360/480hz esport gaming, or a niche game you play that performs best with X3D. Highly recommend a 1440p or 4k 120hz+ GOOD Ips / OLED and as good as a gpu you can buy with a 7600 / 7800x3d or 9600/9700/9800x3d. Purely for cost saving 5700x3d / 5700x / 5600 or even 12th gen intel on sale are also great you can build extremely cheap and pair it with a higher end GPU. At the moment 4070 Ti Super or below is the only thing I would personally consider.
If you really have the money and care about 4k gaming nothing comes close to the 4090 ( but 5090 is coming VERY soon ).
@@SinStarfire thanks for the reply. Im the type of person who builds a great PC and use ps it for like 5 years.
Whats the reason you wouldn’t use a 4080 Super?
@@k2229 The 50 series will come soon on January, so you might check it as well
no entiendo este reviu, claro que van a dar todos iguales porque la gpu esta a tope, esto se hace en 1080 hijo. para 2 k tenesd que usar mínimo una 4080 super o 4090, le pongo un ryzen 3600 y va a dar lo mismo 2 frames menos.
vas a jugar a 1080 con un cpu reciente y con una rtx 4070? te creo para trabajo pero para que gastar mas si la diferencia en uso real en juegos es de una media insignificante
What processors are these? It looks like my build is better than this. 12600k rtx 4070.
same here mine is 13600k with 3060
and almost same fps i have then these processors
That video show save money buy 9700x people on TH-cam over rated x3d cpu isn't that great
No, the CPUs were bottlenecked by the GPU in this video. If you use a faster GPU (as I have seen in other benchmarks) the difference between the 9600X and 9800X3D is 35-50% on average. This is why GPU pairing is important so that you don't waste money that gets caught in bottlenecks. If you plan to buy a midrange card, then use a midrange processor because otherwise you are wasting money. Personally I buy a new CPU about every 5, maybe 6 years, so the X3D will have longer legs, since my GPU turnover is higher (about every 2-3 years), so the CPU choice shines later. Where I am from the ~800X3D is about double the price than the ~600X, but that price difference is less than a third or quarter of a graphics card, so relatively a cheap jump.
@MuNky1022 not everyone uses rtx 4090 and play games on 1080p
Benchmarking CPUs with a 4070 Super @ 1440p. LOL!
Yeah, high mid range GPU, so of course the midrange CPU keeps up well. Would be curious to see the same benchmark with a card from 3 years in the future (like maybe a RTX7070 Super or something), I bet then the higher CPUs will show better performance.