CUMMINS MEGA TRUCK vs 5 TON MILITARY TRUCK
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See what happens when a Massive Mega Truck hooks up to a 5 ton military 6x6 truck.
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And that's why it's called a military grade vehicle.
Yep. In case there are monster truck insurgents.
The irony is the 5 ton has a Cummins too lol
Same engine but different gearing. Plus the 5t has 6 wheel traction as opposed to the 4 wheels with massively wide tread
That is a 5 ton M931A2 tractor, major difference in size power and weight between a 5 Ton and 2-1/2 ton. Though a Deuce would still likely own that other truck.
Not in DIRT, with the Deuce's mil-spec NDT tires. this is a pavement contest with deeply-grooved tires (less surface-area contacting the pavement than the tires that the M923 is wearing). thus:
APPLES TO ORANGES. *Get an offroad-modified M35 or M923, and re-do it* to see if that 3rd axle's 50% more tire surface-contact area helps -- *then do it with each truck on a 40* cross-slope whilst trying to move 30* uphill* to see our top-heavy cargo trucks aren't built FOR THE SAME PURPOSE/JOB as the lightweight-but-high-horsepower-with-bigger-tires-but-only-4-tires Baja styled trucks, slope crawlers & monstertrucks.
Must have not had both tow mirrors flipped up lmao!
Ben Denard lol
Torque flowing through all 6 wheels, and it being so much lower to the ground will normally give you the win. Not to mention, having that big ass block of added weight over the rear wheels helps a lot too.
thing is a beast
Lower to the ground doesnt mean anything as long as the pull point is equal height on each vehicle. Fact of the matter is that this is 10,000LB on v-treads vs 15,000-20,000LB on block-treads with a paved surface... Also a 425hp N14 makes ~2200ft-lb of torque, if thats what this M939 truck really has in it that is.
plus this fucking thing weighs so much more
Stephen M The M931 has a Cummins NCS 250hp non-turbo in it, I have 4 of those trucks, and they weigh 19,000 pounds
This isnt your truck, someone else owns it and put the motor in it.
Those five tons are really cool I had a tractor like that and a Troop Carrier to haul firewood you can't beat them❤👍✌🇺🇲🏆
Right on
Got nothing to do with power. And everything to do with the tread on the Cummins, which is VERY poorly suited to a flat, solid surface. The amount of rubber that actually meets the road is very little. Look at the marking of the tread when his wheels stop spinning. That tread is designed to work on a very specific surface. The 5-ton was ALWAYS going to win this. Soft, marshy ground.... Different story.
Weight. thats it. And air brakes. I've got me a few of those 5 tons. and bigger.
+Garron ah Dont forget that it is also a 6x6
Both are cummins
laplante149 That 5 ton would probably still drag that dodge in 4x4, it's like Diesel Ramcharger said, it's all about weight. A empty 5 ton weighs 22,000lbs, that dodge probably weighs half that. xD
The old, patient Cummins wins everytime:)
Dalton Hill yup
exept Scania's V8...
+Dalton Hill But weren't those old AM series military trucks General Motors products? I could be wrong but I think they were, so they'd probably have something else, no? Again, I'm just speculating, I could be wrong
+Evan Burdick they were part of GM but they used a 8.3L CUMMMINS because they couldn't find anything more powerful at the time.
Evan Burdick The M900-M939 Trucks were Built by AM General,AMG/AMC,and BMY Harsco from 1970-1999.AM General is also the Same Company that Builds the Military HMMWV's such as the M997/M998's.I think you Meant that they have GM Products as The Older and Original 5 Tons as a M900-M922 Could have a Detroit Diesel as a Option other than Cummins,and All of Them also had Air Lockers from Detroit.
The M900-M922's from 1970-1985 were AM General,The M923-M939's from 1981-1987 were AM General also and AMG/AMC from 1981-1985.From 1987-1999,The Same Trucks were either AM General or BMY Harsco with the 1200×20 CTIS Tires,and then the M915/M916 Trucks as a A1 from 1985-1987,And then 1987-1999 as A2 CTIS were Produced by Freightliner.The M915/M916 Semi Trucks were Extended after 1985 away from AM General while the Other M900-M922 5 Tons Except the Ones I mentioned,Were Discontinued.
haha they are both cummins. and its a 5 ton not a deuce as a spectator suggested
Looks like an M931A2.. I just bought one 2 days ago ;) Awesome trucks.
crazyfvck they are pretty cool
BustedKnuckleVideo Indeed :)
Still have it?
@@crazymayne69 Sadly, no. I sold it to pay off my back surgery and some credit card debt. One of the worst decisions that I have ever made!!! I should have just gone to the bank and taken out a loan. I'll never be able to buy another one, because the prices have gone up so much. Anyway, when I had mine, I used it as my daily driver, and it was amazing! I loved it, and so did everyone else. I miss it :'(
That's a 5 ton
yep
Lifted trucks will never win the tug of war, only if they cheat and put the strap higher than the other rig. The strap should always be level like in this video.
exactly
Wrong lol. Just wrong. Stay in school. You'll learn why.
Here"s your problem, your truck has no purpose, i think that answers all questions.
other than being awesome
These young kids and there diesel trucks make me laugh. Just because it says cummins on it does not mean in any fact that it is A semi truck. A diesel pickup may be more powerful than A gas pickup but at the end of the day thats all it is is a light weight pickup. Hooking up A Ford, Chevey, or Ram to A big rig is A no brainer the rig will win, it was built to haul stuff. And A lot of these diesel pickup builders are claiming you can pull 20 thousand pounds plus, And thats fine but try to stop or not jackknife on A wet road. The weight is not there, And military trucks are bad ass machines.
steiger 256 whipper snappers lol
you ever see the video of the duramax duelly pulling a kenworth in a tug of war , and the semi lost ?
steiger 256 you do realize the trailer has its own brake's right? The truck only stops a little more than itself.
bryan70546 and yes it killed that semi
The army truck still has a Cummins in it
It's not about horsepower, it's about how could you put that torque and horsepower to the ground. Old guys says you don't need a powerful tractor to work with, you need a heavy AND powerful tractor. Old rule say you need 7kgs for each horsepower otherwise you are getting nothing more than spinning wheels and your rig is going to dig itself into the ground...
***** its all about traction.
My Tacoma would out pull both of those trucks at the same time while in 2wd with the lockers turned off and with full tire pressure, yeah its pretty much the best pulling machine in our solar system.
and you need to come back into this solar system because you are WAY out there:)
sure it is
:)
You truly are mistaken those trucks would rip your truck in half
Justin Tucker I don't think so because just last night I did a tug of war against an M1 Abram and a F-16 fighter jet and a Carnival cruise ship and I ripped all 3 in half all at once so how could these guys win me HUH???
I think the steam traction engine I drove could beat these it weighs over 24 tons.
I love the deuce just as much
it has lots to do with the tires. I wanna see this take place off asphalt.
military truck would still win
yup
Doesn't mean it wouldn't be cool to see.
Very true, I want to find a video of a 900 series wrecker (can't remember the model number) and put it up against 2 of those monster trucks, (yes I know the wrecker would win but would be fun to see)
I've got a 1960 Tatra M412 6x6 former Soviet Army Truck . V12 Russian diesel . I've hooked it to a pulling sled and made a full pull no sweat. Military trucks no matter what country are pure bad ass.
BTW I live in America .I found the truck in Wisconsin at a equipment wholesale .It was shipped to Canada then wound up in the US . It uses regular truck parts and is built like a brick shithouse.....
dougslittlediesel bamf
dougslittlediesel how close is it to a URAL?
dougslittlediesel Is it Powered by a 38L V12?
Thoughs US military trucks are not joke!!! Especially when there built for strength, withstand an EMP attack and can take on severe punishment during wartime!!
they are heavy duty
Radials vs AG tires. And of course its a Dodge.
***** weight + contact area = win
Yep. Buying one. It's settled
Good idea
Military truck has way more tire contact on the ground compared to the monster trucks cleat style tires.
+Zerrin Theriot and it weighs more
+BustedKnuckleVideo Yeah that too!
OWNED !!!!!
yep
On top of that it is well balanced in comparison to a pickup truck and heavier just no chance have you ever seen anything cool one of those (5 ton
Deuce and a half'z)??????
John Work run what ya brung
Funny thing is, both these trucks are powered by a Cummins.
Todd Gissell best motor
No? Army trucks a multifule
william16339 No and yes, The M35 6x6 is a Continental multi-fuel engine. The M800 series and the M900 series trucks have either the Cummins NCS 250 non-turbo diesel in them (That's what my M929 has) or the Cummins 240hp turbo diesel.
william16339 This is a M931A2 CTIS Tractor Unit.Which is Part of the M900-M939 Series from 1970-1999.These Trucks were all Diesel,Throughout the Years for Production.NHC 250,NCS 250,400,HT855,6CTA,N14 as a Cummins were Available in these,Along with a 8V92 or Series 60 Detroit in the 1970-1985 5 Tons.This Truck in Particular is Part of the M923-M939 Versions.Which only had a NCS 250,NHC 250,400,HT855,or 6CTA as a Option.This M931A2 is a 1987-1999 Year because of the CTIS Tires it has in the Video,More than Likely it has a 6CTA which is a 8.3L Turbo.
The 1952-1988 M35 Trucks all had Multifuels,They had either a LDS-465-1A or LDT-465-1A from 1952-1960/1965-1988.The M35's from 1961-1964 had a LDS-427-1A or LDT-427-1A.The Engines were Built by Continental,Hercules,and White.The Other Dueces like a M109 or M185 also had those Engines. The M35A3 Trucks and M44A1/A4 Trucks were a Little Different,Built from 1993-1999 with a 3116 CAT only.
Derp_Raedin1 The M800-M832's and M900-M939's only had a NHC 250 Cummins from 1970-1985.A Freightliner M915/M916 from 1985-1999 Had a NCS 250 as a Option.
gotta love them 5 tons they were meant to pull and they do it very well I would like to see someone turbo one of the old nhc 250's though
They have
Cummins vs Cummins I believe theres a 8.3 in the 5 ton
think so?
@@BustedKnuckleVideo yes they have a 8.3 cummins
I can imagine that monster cummins truck vs a HET global 8x8 that het would barely if at all break a sweat
It was entertaining
BustedKnuckleVideo the truck in this video was a 5 ton not a het if it was a HET you would know they are big military semis
Monster trucks can't pull that hard cause they still are a small pickup with huge wheels thats high up which only makes it worse, especially with tires for dirt, 5 ton would win easily
not wrong
so every one knows they both got Cummins engines in there trucks
yep
Just Like Mega Shark vs Kolossus Mega Truck and Then Mega Shark
giants battling it out
cummins mega truck vs cummins 8.3 or 14 litres engin military truck.military truck tyres for half road and half offroad !4x4 truck tyre for offroad agriculture machines,not for concrete road
+Zsolt Lukács still a good match up
Old an plain better then new an shiny
weight = traction
Not very fair 6 wheel drive and much better traction tires on hard flat surface Plus that's a 5 ton military vehicle with weights good luck any mormal mud truck
John Work who cares about fair?
that big ass truck with the big ass tyres is fucking useless for anything but getting stuck.
and conquering deep holes
Cummins vs Cummins
probably right
@@BustedKnuckleVideothe M9XX series of 5 tonners uses the 8.3? Cummins
Was it 8.3 I forget
es por logica que el camion gana tiene mejor cubierta y traccion, el mega truck no sirve para arrastre jajajajaja no tiene de donde agarrarse
No Tacoma `s suck.
Gary Brennan what?
No pissant truck will pull a 5 ton military truck period.
Depends on weight
I throw my wife in the back of a 5 ton and nobody is beating me
Big Gal?
like a 54'' interco on a 15'' wheel
WOW
USA military trucks . POWER
nicolitas123 tugging machines
187 hp but a shit ton of torque.
Frank Castle That's how much hp a M35A2 makes, a 5 ton makes around 240 hp at 2100 rpm and 745 lbf⋅ft torque at 1,500 rpm.
Metallica fan I will take your word for it. How come you are a metallica fan and not a pantera fan.
Frank Castle Because I grew up listening to bands like Metallica, Kix, Cinderella, Ac Dc, and Guns n Roses. I've never really listened to pantera.
a cool videos for sure. but the music blows chunks.
music?
BustedKnucleVideo yes the music in the background blows chunks. i know that you can,t control it but it still takes away from the awesome exhaust sound of the 6x6.
yeah its the worst at these events
BustedKnuckleVideo yea every generation thinks their "music" is the best. and for some reason there are a few who think that everyone at the event has to hear it at max. volume.
5 ton 6x6 will win everytime......
Hula Rock its all about weight and traction
The Cummins couldn't pull it ever main reasons.
1. The Cummins has a wider foot print because of those tires.
2. It doesn't weight as much.
3. Yes the Cummins engine is more powerful then what's in the Deuce but strength is nothing when you have NO TRACTION.
MidShipCivic Nothing personal, do you actually believe that the engine that is in that Dodge is more powerful, or has more torque, that what's in that M939? Even if they were on a level playing field, & the Dodge had a better set of tires, and it was lower to the ground, the Dodge would still lose to the M939.
Lawrence German You're talking over 2 decades of technology a common rail diesel they are more powerful and efficient. IF you disagree then god you're an idiot.... No. I don't believe it's a god damn fact.
MidShipCivic Just to be clear both trucks are running Cummins engines in them. The M939 has about 645 lb feet of torque that's produced at around 1200 to 1285 RPM. The Cummins that's in the Dodge only has about 395 to 455 lb feet to the wheels. Even a brand new 2014 Dodge isn't going to out pull the M939. Simply put, the M939 is a 21,000 pound 280Hp truck that's meant to pull everything. So, for you to say that the Cummins engine is more powerful than what's in the Duece would be correct if you were talking about customized & add on power parts. Yes, that Dodge may have a 455HP engine, but power is nothing without torque.
Lawrence German
Do you realize that the M939 has a 14 liter engine an since when does the Cummin 6.7L make 455lb ft ? to the wheels? AT peak a 6.7L makes nearly 600lb ft. Unless you have some dyno sheets for an old M939 there is no way it will outperform a 6.7L especially with mods. P.S Do you really think the 6.7L Cummins in that truck is stock? lol
m939 still wins because of weight.
Both have cummins so no probs
George Spicer evenly matched
Yes both are Cummins but
Yes they may both be Cummins but I doubt they are both 8.3 Cummins like what's in the five ton
i always get a kick out of these guys who get a LOADED dually pickup vs an UNLOADED semi tractor and really think that the pickup is mechanically stronger. Simply put a little bit of weight over the fifth wheel of the semi tractor and it will easlily outpull the pickup truck.Pickup trucks are NOT the strongest vehicles in the world. In the world of machines(locomotives, ships, earthmovers, -pickups are small tiny toys.
weight = winning in this game
pickup are not mechanically stronger than a semi truck
my 2wd ford ranger with a v6 will rip both of them apart at once not to mention i can beat a 680 horse camaro and its stock ;)
LSSJ4WhiteFang smoking the good stuff I see
BustedKnuckleVideo Don't smoke crack!
The dodge didn't have enough traction.
neurocytohemotoxic nope
Here's proof! Big Dodge, little pecker.
Who'd want to own a POS Dodge anyways
people who like cummins?
As if.
90s comeback?
Bou dodge
big dodge
Should've been in the dirt. Cummins tires had no grib
Barlow Matthew just dig holes
unfair the dodge had mudding tires with no grip
Misty Phillips run what ya brung
Misty Payne, 7000 pounds vs 21,000 pounds. Pickup could have had slicks and still would have probably lost
No traction
Jose Sarge no treble
Well that's not valid. Till you get in the dirt and see what happens