This is so brilliant and passes the scientific test. This actually provides space for falsibility which is an essential test for it to be scientific. Another jolt to Aryan invasion/migration/tourism dogma. Bharat is a continuous existing civilisation for atleast 12000+ years
Absolutely fascinating. The tradition of learning, thought, and analysis, leading to intellectual excellence is a continuation of the model settled by our ancient rishis
I recently had the opportunity to watch a captivating presentation by Dr. Nisha Yadav on IIT Gandhinagar's channel. During the talk, Dr. Yadav discussed an intriguing seal found in Bahrain that boasts a sequence of signs not found anywhere else in the Indian subcontinent. The presentation led to speculation that the Indus script may have been used to write another language. Can you decipher that seal by using your method and can shed some light about which language it was?
Wow... it's like Ureka...Ureka moment for us.After listening to Mr Rao,Mr Reich & many eminent speakers( worker)& being little sceptic about the political buzz of Dravidian vs Aryan...you sounded very convincing.I wish we get longer scripts to further concretise your concepts.
A stunning presentation. Most convincing and logical and verifiable of all the deciphering claims. Wish you all the best to make this mainstream. I have a doubt. May be naive. Different decoration of same symbol is possible and not uncommon as you suggested with different style of 'A'. However if the same inscription using different styles for the same symbol, do you think that is ok? or could it mean a slight variation like capital/small letters?
The first letter (rightmost) is often a decorated letter, like you see in newspaper or book paragraphs. Even mid-inscription, it makes sense to use different forms to make reading easier. You often see this in logos.
I think this is brilliant work. However, the clarity and structure in his explanations could be improved so that they are crystal clear. I got the gist of his explanations and his claim of matching with Brahmi, that it would not have been possible unless this is actually what the Indus script is for (his regular expression based decipherment being self correcting, and thus would have a reached a dead end if the language of the Indus script was not Brahmi). However, he could have made a stronger case for the correctness of his decipherment, had he given: 1) alternative but reasonable guesses of the sounds of some symbols to show that they reach a dead end assuming Brahmi to be the language depicted. 2) Try the same for other ancient languages of the time including Sanskrit, ancient Farsi, etc., and show that his method/code reaches dead ends for each of these other languages he tried. Finally, on a sminor negative note, is the issue of a lack of transparency in this presentation: a) his name was not revealed; b) he did not provide a link to his (apparently unpublished paper); c) he also seems a bit too blase about the fact that his paper was (apparently) rejected; just for the sake of establishing this decipherment as the correct one for the sake of human-kind, he should make revisions to it to better explain his method and rationale so that it is published in a prestigious journal. For this, one possibility is collaborating for just the paper writing/revision with Prof. Rajesh Rao from the U. Washington (CS/CSE department?) who has done some work in Indus script decipherment--available on youtube--(though not as comprehensive as here). If that does not work out or is not a good option for him, I offer to collaborate with him to write a better paper (I can just be a minor co-author--my main aim is to get this published, not being a co-author--I have enough paper of my own)--I am a professor of ECE at UIC, have published about 90 well regarded papers in prestigious journals and conference proceedings, and my research areas fall in the related fields of computer engineering and science. My name is Shantanu Dutt, and my univ. email is dutt@uic.edu (please no unsolicited emails from anyone else), in case my offer interests him (and I hope it does for the benefit of humanity).
*North West India including Afghanistan was familiar with what was then a world lingua franca, the Aramaic script and language (for trading) that was used by the Medes, Persians and Aryans in Afghanistan as early as 1000 BCE. This helped in the evolution of Kharosthi in these areas, while Brahmi evolved in India from the transitory Indus script, say 2000-500 BCE, into a proper script both in the North and South. Further, Indus script and variations gradually involve variations of Brahmi; Brahmi/Sanskrit, Brahmi/ Prakrit, Brahmi/Pali and Brahmi/Tamil.* These references are, courtesy from a book written by Sri M R Mallya, *Ancient India, Search for a true chronology; From origin to 700 AD* Namaste.
Yajnadevam, Congratulations and Also thank you for your Brilliant work. Do you have mapping of group of symbols to corresponding sounds that you can share? Like 'ma' sound can be mapped to many symbols, Like what you have at 28:00 in your video, do you have that kind of group of symbols for all sounds? The reason I am asking is, I want to be able to read the script.
The indus script not deciphered not because its undecipherable, its not decipherable because of the politics. Every sane person who knows history already know that indus script has high probability of being Vedic Sanskrit.
Yajnadevam, thank you for a brilliant presentation. I’m curious to know if you did the language mapping with modern Sanskrit or with Vedic? Also, was mapping attempted with Pali or Old Tamil? Another point that was not clear was the mention of horses or chariot wheels with spokes in the context of IVC. My understanding from some earlier reading is that IVC did not have either. Could you comment on this please?
The language seems to be post-vedic as I did not find any vedic specific constructions. For mathematical reasons, it cannot be mapped to Pali or Tamil or any other language. Horses are mentioned in the inscriptions. Spoked wheels are so common that they form signs in the script.
I have also seen a video of gondi language expert Motiraven Kangali's decipherment of Indus valley's script. That was also convincing. Have you any idea about that?
Why are everyone fixated on the language t they spoke?, I believe in the out of India 🇮🇳 theory so sanskrit and old tamil both evolved on the subcontinent, so it stands to reason that both were probably spoken. And because there were hundreds of cities along the course of the ancient rivers, concurrent cities in the south, and merchants from all of the ancient world coming there, how do you think they communicated? The oldest section of the Rigveda has many "Dravidisanisms" for want of a better term, interwoven into the Sanskrit. There are a few ancient languages that existed in BHARAT Then and still exist now like the tribal languages. So let language rest for a moment. The logic that the speaker is uding6is sound. How do you think akadian, sumerian, linear A and B or even etruscsn was deciphered???
By ur logic, many centuries later when people will see the Elephant statues of Mayawati, they will interpret that people of UP used to eat Elephants. Such a great way to interpret
@@raghavarvoltore6517 bro its cleary sanskrit even dr niraj rai found r1a1 sample from sinauli site in this sample no steppe genes.sinauli is ivc site and 4600 years old domesticated horses also found from Binjor and Kalibangan sites.
11 signs in 17th century by shepherds in Hampi are common with iVC Signs . They are deciphered to be Gondi language .only tribals would have an idea of ivc signs
@@yajnadevam No.. what I mean is - 'we don't know the script but we are deciphering using computer programs' , but the shepherds of 17th century wrote a sentence with those symbols. So it means that their inputs are more valuable than computer programs.
@@uniqguy111 A script can be used for multiple languages, Brahmi was used for Sanskrit, Prakrit and Tamil. Shepherds writing doesn't falsify the laws of information theory.
@@yajnadevam As per wave model of linguistics, there could be already an IE branch in India before Vedic's arrival. However one may bluff, Vedic is not a spoken language (atleast in India) and Sanskrit based inscriptions/coins are attested very late in India(AD only ). So IVC could be any other IE(not Vedic) if script is used for multiple languages.
Not too convinced after reading the authors article, we still can't make any conclusions on what language the Indus script was encoded in. All just speculations. Need further research.
In Phonician Aphabet Sound value you can see Like D.fish type Variant of D in Indus,Indus Y letter in Phonician He & I etcth-cam.com/video/3kGuN8WIGNc/w-d-xo.html 👈👈🤔
speculation is right of everyone, I hope you too doing some dictionary match.............. there are total 17 works on the similar grounds from 35 years as per my self research goes, most of the people are vanished from the surface of earth.
Definitley Proto Dravidian language was influenced by Vedic Language. That is why most ancient texts Vedas are in Sanskrit and not in any other regional language like Tamil
Correction; Parpola doesn't decipher the Indus Script as "Tamil", he deciphers it as Dravidian but simply uses the Tamil repository to help him. However these words are common in all Dravidian. For example, a young boy in Brahui is "maar" and the word also appears in Akkadian, obviously a borrowing from Harappan.
@@umax870 A useless scholar who destroyed ancient Indian history with his stupid aryan migration theory. Horses are found in North India before 1800 BCE which is fully evident from the horse chariot found at Sinuali . But this scum bag keeps saying they are not horse chariots and he keeps proposing imaginary Aryans coming in at 1500 BCE into North India and bringing horse chariots with them.
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 What is your objection to it ?. We have archaeological evidence of it from 1800 BCE and we have literary evidence as well little bit older than that.
What is the purpose of all these gymnastics. It is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Aryan invasion of India is true. There is no argument against genetic evidence. We are all products of mixing between Aryan invaders and native Indians(themselves a mix between Iranians and original out-of-Africa Indians) living in the Harappan era around 1500 BCE.
The family that conquered the world … originated in India In genetic terminology, a “haplogroup” is a group of individuals that share a common ancestor with a particular genetic mutation. A haplogroup pertains to a single line of descent which typically dates back several thousand years. In other words, a haplogroup is a large, extended family or clan, all of whose members have a shared ancestry. There are two types of haplogroups: Y-chromosome (patrilineal) haplogroups, and mtDNA (matrilineal) haplogroups. Haplogroups are identified by letters of the alphabet (A, B, C, etc.) and sub-groups are denoted by letters and numbers (A1, A1a, etc.). The Y-chromosomal (patrilineal) haplogroup R1a1a (also known as R-M17) is the world’s most successful extended family. Its members number in the high hundreds of millions, possibly over a billion. It is widespread across Eurasia, with high concentrations in Russia, Poland and Ukraine, as well as in the Indian subcontinent and the Tuva region of Russia. R1a1a is closely associated with the spread of Indo-European languages across Eurasia. In India, R1a1a is identified as the haplogroup that represents the Indo-Aryan people. It records an uninterrupted lineage of males, from father to son, all of whom have descended from one common male ancestor. Distribution of haplogroup R1a1a (purple) in Eurasia. Distribution of haplogroup R1a1a (purple) in Eurasia. This research paper demonstrates that the R1a1* haplogroup, which is found throughout Eurasia, originated in India [7]. Here, the * refers to all subgroups of the parent haplogroup R1a1. The R1a* haplogroup which originated in India is at least 18,000 years old The R1a* haplogroup which originated in India is at least 18,000 years old [7]. This more recent study published in 2015 confirms and refines the results of [7], demonstrating that the oldest examples of the haplogroup R1a are found in the Indian subcontinent and are approximately 15,450 years old [8]. This is a momentous discovery. It proves that: The R1a haplogroup originated in India. The Indo-Aryan people have lived in India for at least 15,450 years, which invalidates the theory that the Indo-Aryans invaded India 3,500 years ago. The hundreds of millions of members (possibly over a billion) of the R1a family living across the world today - a very large fraction of humanity - are all descended from one single male ancestor who lived in India at least 15,450 years ago. This discovery demonstrates the close genetic (and hence linguistic and cultural) affinity of Indians with the Russian and Polish people, the Vikings and Normans, and with the ancient Scythians and Tocharians, among many others. This is irrefutable scientific proof that not only did the Indo-Aryan people originate in India over 15,450 years ago, but also that they expanded out of India and settled lands far to the west in Europe. It thoroughly invalidates the AIT. Contextualizing contradictory genetic studies While I have presented several research papers that invalidate the AIT, I would be remiss if I did not mention here that some other genetic studies claim that the AIT is correct. How does one interpret this? The answer is simple: None of these other studies has been able to disprove the results of [7] and [8], namely, that the oldest examples of the haplogroup R1a are found in the Indian subcontinent and are at least 15,450 years old. None of them has been able to find older examples of R1a anywhere else in the world. As long as the results of [7] and [8] stand, the AIT remains invalidated. The myth of the Aryan-Dravidian divide and the “high caste”-“low caste” divide The supposed Aryan-Dravidian divide is a myth. This Nature report, which cites three genetic studies, demonstrates that most Indians are genetically alike, belying the hypothesis of an Aryan-Dravidian dichotomy [9]. Other studies have also demonstrated that people in north India are no different from those in the south and that all share the same genetic lineage. The R1a1a haplogroup is found in high frequencies in north Indians as well as south Indians, in tribal communities, and in “low castes” as well as in “high castes”. Claims that the Dravidians belong to a separate, non-Hindu civilization are also discredited by ancient Tamil Sangam literature, which dates back to c. 300 BCE. The Mahabharata is mentioned in the oldest Tamil Sangam literature. The Vedas and the Ramayana are also mentioned in Sangam literature. Sangam literature mentions the whole of India, starting from lands to “the north of the Himalayas”, which contradicts the claim that the Dravidians were confined to the south of India. The above evidence, taken together, demonstrates the genetic and cultural continuity of India from the north to the south, and proves that the artificial concepts of the “Aryan-Dravidian divide” and the “high caste”-“low caste” divide have no basis in fact.
ARYAN INVASION THEORY: This theory has its origin in Church’s reaction to the Western romantics who were thrilled to discover an unbelievably advanced language in Sanskrit, and even more thrilled to find that Sanskrit was part of the same language family as most European languages. They felt honoured to find such distinguished roots and the ‘Out of India Theory’ or OIT was born. This was the leading discourse till the 1820s when Church began its push back. Max Mueller was employed by the East India Company, and AIT was born. AIT assumptions are rooted in the Biblical racist history. AIT was given an arbitrary date around 1500 BCE, first to protect the Biblical date of creation - 22/02/4004 BCE - and to destroy the Indian chronology as it had the effect of completely destroying the Biblical world view. This conspiracy called AIT has four legs, That there is a race called Aryan, a branch of the Biblical Japheth That this race invaded the Indian heartland That the invasion happened around 1500-1800 BCE That they brought Sanskrit with them Even if one leg is falsified, the whole theory crumbles to dust. Nobody ever proved this theory. Using archaeology, river morphology, literature, geology, astronomy and even linguistics and genetics, each of the four legs have been repeatedly falsified, but the Church and its adjuncts, including Islamists and Marxists refuse to accept it. The Jaipur Dialogues have announced an Award of ₹2.1 Cr to anyone who can prove AIT. They do not have a single claim yet. On the other side, there is a veritable flood of evidence to disprove a theory which was nothing but speculation at the best of times, yet the entrenched powers that be in the academia, the Church and the Islamists just ignore it and try and find pathways around it. It helps them to communalise the issue so that the government remains defensive and does not touch the curriculum built by them over decades of being in power.
That is incorrect. Indus writing is 4000-3500 BCE, way before any population that can be called Aryan even existed. So whether any new population migrated or not 2500 yrs later is irrelevant to the question of Sanskrit language and culture.
Mulle miyan inside you know Aryan invasion theory of India is false by historical, geological and archaeological evidence, perhaps your genes got corrupted by the dark age false abhramic religions , hence you could not see the truth which was very clear to people of Dharmic religions. Remember in our ancient scriptures it is mentioned that vedic kings ruled the entire world, more evidences will eventually come up, it is also mentioned that a demon named mahamada will came to spread darkness into the world and Islam is just that. Come out of it to clearly see the truth.
But where is Saraswathi valley? And genetics say it is south indian and Arya brahmin migrate later around 1590bcm then this is Tamil script. And it is available all over India , means tamils were lived all over India, before Arya brahmin arrive to India. This becomes the marker . Brammi is also Tamil script. King Asoka use that script since didnot have script. That is why he wrote 4 different scripts 1. Tamil brammi, 2. Karosti 3. Aramaic and 4. Greek. After come to India, Arya bramin never actually started to write until king asokan and till today.
Saraswathi valley is near indus in ghaggar hakra. Genetics doesn't say that no this is not Tamil script and it is indus script it is older than tamil version. No tamils didnt live all over india are you saying NE people are tamils? stop with th sameless lies. Stop with your brahmin hate priests dont invade countries it is the kings who do that. Brahmi is a indus script. It has various versions and tamil version is just one of the version. So it is logical why mauryans used indus script while living there. also kharosthi similar to brahmi is not tamil script LOL. Which also breaks the Aryan migration myth. Nor tamils had written it infact india has oral tradition of passing scriptures through orally. So stop with your racism.
@@trollarasan it is fake like rg Veda and Sanskrit. We have the same script in tamilnadu. Better study some science too instead of living in the fake fictious world of Saraswathi, vedha etc. Dna says Arya brahmi came to India around 1500bc. Throw some bmac Brahmin skeleton into the ruins of harappa just like throwing linga everywhere in north india, you could find evidence too.
@@அரசன்நாடார் It is not fake, unlike your fake Dravidian global culture. The script exists all over India not exclusive to Tamil Nadu. No, it is not the same in Tamil Nadu it is a variant of it. So stop shamelessly lying through your teeth. I should be saying that study science instead of living in a fake utopia of super Dravidian race, lumeria etc.
Lol tamil brahmi 🤣🤣🤣🤣.... dude ppl from ivc migrated to gangetic plains and central Asian and irianian migration happened during that time but they weren't aryas ... Vedas were written around 300 years later after final wave of migration ... and for your kind info ivc ppl were light brown skinned not black skinned coz they had 70-90% iranian farmer gene and hardly 30-10% andamanes tribe genetics 🤣🤣🤣,.. later these ppl migrated southwards where they found andamanese tribes and later mixed with them ... that's it ... dude get some brain you kids will claim entire world tamil one day in your fake pride
When I was first studying ancient History of India, it was no brainer That Indus valley Civilization did not end and is a continuous civilization till present day. Recent DNA studies only confirms this further. This deciphering is cherry on the top. Thank you for your outstanding work.
@@podaran majorly brahmins have more ivc genome like iyer brahmins have 60% ivc genome 30% central Asian and 10% andamanese . This proves that there was migration but not an aryan migration aryan ppl are the one who have ivc genome ,and hence upper castes have more ivc genome compared to dravidians who have more andamaese genome
@@podaran kid they have only 30% and 60% they have ivc genome , ivc ppl were fair , light brown and brown , not dark like dravidians lol dravidans have hardly 20-30% ivc genome , majority of upper caste have it in high frequency . Dravidians have strong andamanese frequency (50-80%) which is again not found in ivc . Whole upper caste (brahmin , kshtriya , vaishya and sat shudra)have ivc genome ranging (40-60%)
My two cents, this is brilliant and much more refined than anything I have seen on this topic. Again, with full respect, needs to be tested by multiple researchers to validate it like any other scientific discovery. , I would keep implication away from this scientific work here.
Brilliant presentation and analysis! The scientific methodology adopted and use of probability that we use to solve cryptograms, and after all that hard work to confirm that Brahmi evolved from this! It has been "staring" at us for years!
It took several hundred years to break the mayan code as per documentary in amazon prime “breaking the mayan code”after watching that I believe this way of deciphering is rational.
This is absolutely groundbreaking material and needs to be urgently recognised in India and the World. I would recommend this be presented to the PM of India, it is worth of a Padma Vibhushan and even Nobel Prize. I hope this is being propagated in the archeology worlds. I would be interested to know if you have tried using this system for Dravidian Language. Also what is your take on the recent research on the word Peelu discovered in Mesopotamia (word for elephant tusk).
Yes, I have tried Dravidian a bit manually since I couldn't find a downloadable dictionary, it doesn't fit the script. People with downloaded dictionaries may have better luck. The pilu word is a joke. It exists in Sanskrit too. Also its unscientific to make a conclusion based on a single word since it could be a false cognate or borrowing doesn't guarantee the source. For example, the word "mobile" may be borrowed from English to Kannada to Tulu. Observers should not conclude "mobile" is a Kannada word.
Recently i visited an old monolith temple in himachal. It dates back to mahabharat times as per the tales. There I noticed a very repetitive text engraved at many places on the walls. But the symbols of that text doesnt match with qny of the symbols shown in this video. Plz send me any email address of yours where i can send the images
This is very good. Did anyone try Prakrut dictionary to decipher the indus valley seals/language? We know that brahmi and prakrut going hand in hand from atleast Ashoka times… we see sanskrit inscriptions much later, most notably gupta perrod
Who the hell told you Sabskrit inscriptions are from Gupta Period. Earliest Sanskrit Inscriptions are from 200B.C Ayodhya and Chittorgarh. Inscription of shunga Era Found in Ayodhya is in Sanskrit written in Priyadarshi Brahmi Inscription mentioning. पुष्यमित्रस्य षष्ठेन 𑀧𑀼𑀱𑁆𑀬𑀫𑀺𑀢𑀲𑁆𑀬 𑀱𑀱𑁆𑀝𑁂𑀦
@@ArvindKumar-rl7vsdon't make yourself a laughing stock if you have any counter arguments come out with it instead showing that you are a spastic by saying LOL, this any fool can write . Can you read and write in the first place?
Path breaking work! Finally it's deciphered and very scientifically done. Congrats. It also refutes all the stupid theories of british origin regarding Indian history which have been floating around since decades. On the other hand, it corroborates the idea of history that the indic viewpoint has always stressed upon, especially in recent years. Now the important part is for this work & the researcher to get official recognition in the system.
Do you think you would make a whole detailed video for the whole paper on the decipherment. I think it would help in exponential terms in increasing the reach of your research.
In Devanagari - certain alphabets change in style over time but there is no Caps and Small letter - I would ‘assume’ this might be true of Indus Valley Script which might be prototype of later day scripts.
@@Pal_Sandeep You have trouble with English comprehension. What part of "West" do you not understand. West means the Western world. almost all scientific knowledge comes from the West, especially from Britain. Improve your English, not your hatred.
@@NordicPolestar i perfectly understood what u said its just that i aam littler hurt that didn't mention Quran. Well it appears u are product of both communist & islamic mixing
Mind blowing talk! This literally proves the continuity of Vedic civilization and culture. BTW, @yajnadevam any reason that you do not give your real name and identity? It would be awesome to know who is the real life person behind this.
It's very annoying not to see the person talking in video. This is a video, the monitor should have informed the presenter to turn on camera. Starting at blank screen is painful
this seems to be the begining era of tamil writing going by the fact that only tamil existed in Indian subcontinent and the symbols are commonly used particularly the Fish symbol. more particularly only tamil engravings are found 3000years ago.
All Indian written scripts has combination of alphabets - in Devanagari - there are half and full alphabets and many standard combinations of alphabets and then combining these with 10+ Matras - forming a Swar. My technical knowledge is limited but I guess you get the message - language writing in Bharat is incredibly advanced and complicated
The Indus Valley script is variation of Sanskrit parallels between Brahmi and Devanagari fish is very common symbol because these people lived along rivers and ate fish and chanted vedas they were called saraswats since they lived along saraswati river
Wonderful! I suggest you start with another set of symbols and show it works or not. Suppose you accept a couple of symbols by Prof. X, and see if it goes anywhere. Or use A couple of letters that are particularly like Brahmi and see if it leads to the same set of alphabet-sound.
Indus script is logo-syllabic,where some symbols express ideas or words while others represent sounds. I don't agree that this script is a logo-phonetic script. But neverthless the interpretation of Indus signs with Brahmi characters is quite logical. I just want to add one more observation . There are 400 signs in Indus script. There are about Brahmi script has 368 total numbers of characters including the number of consonants are 33, vowels are 10, and the rest (325) are compound characters. This is a quite big match between Indus script and brahmi script.
@@Kartik-uu2goThose are seals right, if you write it from left to right and made it into a seal, it would be right to left. Idk just a guess. What if they were used as stamps?
There is no need for SECONDARY CODING as LETTER BY LETTER decoding has already been done by DR GUPTA ( DG) HARAPPAN CODE (DGHC 2021) that reveals ANCIENT INDIA PLACES & PERSONALITIES, RELIGION, DEITIES etc.
बाबा बागेश्वर धाम के धीरेन्द्र शास्त्री को बालाजी हनुमान की सिद्धि है, तो हनुमान जी से ही पूछ लिया जाये कि सिन्धु लिपि के अक्षरों का ध्वनि मूल्य क्या है। हनुमान जी तो विद्यावान् हैं।
I don't think we can rule out the possibility of multiple languages that coexisted in Indus and came to use this form of writing, as scripts can be shared. That is indeed the history of scripts in India when you consider bramhi. Today a single script devanagari is also shared. Granta script was shared by sanskrit in the south. This is all due to the western lens , who only know homogeneity and cannot fathom heterogeneity.
Dhanywaad for your Bhagirath task. I have a question about Dholavira signboard decipherment. रक वरारक अररस। The क sound is twice, but we dont see any symbol repeating other than symbol for र Also र sound comes 5 times but the symbol for र appears 4 times
@@hkrtrivedi A script cannot be deciphered as two different languages, even closely related languages. Try reading this English comment as German, a closely related language.
I have read that previous attempts were made by assuming the signs were Sanskrit. How different is your outcome than theirs. Were you able to compare them. And, how many languages have you so far run against the regexp.
No other decipherment is a full decipherment. No other decipherment is actual Sanskrit. They claim "middle indo-aryan" "prakrit" etc, which basically means they invented a language to fit their deicpherment.
@@yajnadevam Thanks much. Appreciate ur response. I have one basic question. You made an assumption that the letters have taken shape during ages and so the circle with or without spokes represent the same letter and so on. If it was really the case, why do you think they used the different forms of the same letter, say, in a seal or an inscription. In practical terms, I think people tend to disregard the usage of the old forms when they adapt a new one.
@@somusundaram7084 This is something we need to study next. My sense is that certain letters/graphemes are used together for certain words. Just like gh is used in rough while f is used in fish for the same sound. In fact there are 5 different grapheme clusters for /f/ in English. If the wrong one is used, it looks odd. Indus probably was the same. Eventually, the civilization advanced to a point where they standardized the script by eliminating duplicates into a smaller set of symbols what we today call Brahmi.
@@yajnadevam Awesome. Thanks so much for the quick response. All the best for your research. Hope you will be recognized by the intellectual community for your work.
I think one of the biggest missing part in entire deciphering by you is the biased analysis instead of actually analysis why it’s used means seals were used for trade which contains item code , unique ID like elephant or cow or animals then how to transport the materials… so just to make our understanding simple … even today too we use universal traffic signs to have a common understanding between different language speaking communities and intercity trades of agricultural products or gems, stones etc
No matter what... All these are only assumptions no way concert evidence..... Until and unless a bilingual text is discovered only then some light will be shed
If u need more proof search " Thamizhi hiphop thamizha playlist" you will get fascinating proofs that its thamizh language. It is already proved to be a tamil civilization.
When the Indus Valley Civilization thrived, Sanskrit - an Indo European language did not arrived into Indian sub Continent. Sanskrit was brought by Aryans only at 1500BC to India. Sanskrit is classified by scholars into Indo European.And it has many similarities to Latin, Greek especially Lithuanian. Example: Sanskrit: Kas tvam asi? Asmi svapnas tava tamase nakte. Agniṃ dadau te śradi tada viśpatir devas tvam asi. Lithuanian: Kas tu esi? Esmi sapnas tavo tamsioje naktyje. Ugnį daviau tau širdy, tada viešpatis dievas tu esi. English: Who are you? A dream in your dark night. I gave you the fire in your heart, so you are god our lord. The language of Indus valley civilization is most probably Proto dravidian, an ancient form of Tamil. This gets validated again from the Rakhigarhi DNA study which has absence of r1a1 gene found in North indians, and which had similarity with the Nilgiri hill tribe found in kerala-Tamil Nadu border.
Thanks for accepted the ancient china, mesapatomia, indus, Egypt, Keezhady writing are found ancient tamil. As a misinformation you said Saraswathy there is no Saraswathy, the river near Haithi which northern iran a river named Harakswathy is exact Saraswathy. Language is important in indian language "S " is used but in Persian language "H" is used for example Sindhu (Indian ) says as hindu (Persian).
Dingoism, Your observations are not factual. *What of the Iranian name Haraxvaiti?* This name appears in the first chapter of the Vidēvdād along with place names Haetumant (=Helmand), Māuru or Margu (= Margiana), Bāxδī or dhri (=Bactria) etc and, of course, Haptahǝndu. Haraxvaiti means simply ‘one who has harah-’. But Harah̦ - or Harax - is a stem entirely isolated in Avestan: it has no cognates, no other related lexemes. This fact is extraordinary when contrasted with Sanskrit, sáras and Saras-vati! Because the Sanskrit word sáras has a host of relatives and can be derived directly and very lawfully from a root (dhātu). The root is √sṛ and in the ancient Dhātupātḥas (= lists of root-forms and their meanings). Reference; Vedic and Avestan by N Kazanas July 2011
Migrated Anus branch Parthian leader Kavi Chayman Parthava Parthian decendent king Kavi Khusad Founder of Kayanian Dynasty of Iran th-cam.com/video/Q7Jxb_ihRxE/w-d-xo.html
Looks about right, am so very happy that these days its the Indians who are proving stuff scientifically, while its the Europeans who are being arrogant and not going by science but by preconceived notions.
He is so unassuming about his achievement. For him it was just a cryptogram. His work needs to be recognised and brought to the mainstream.
mainstream is not going to accept.
@@rigvedickingbharata4055 the work is Solid.
@@gooddayokI agree it is, but most of the academia are in an eco chamber, so it will be very hard tomake it mainstream.
Brilliant young man, he's done an excellent job of explaining this. I'm going to go over this in detail.
This Deciphered claim Language of Dwapara yugin Sankrit th-cam.com/video/Vv-G9A14kg0/w-d-xo.html
This is so brilliant and passes the scientific test. This actually provides space for falsibility which is an essential test for it to be scientific. Another jolt to Aryan invasion/migration/tourism dogma. Bharat is a continuous existing civilisation for atleast 12000+ years
Dude stop it!
@@RachaelWill , you couldnt.
@@RachaelWill ok propogandist
Absolutely fascinating. The tradition of learning, thought, and analysis, leading to intellectual excellence is a continuation of the model settled by our ancient rishis
The guy who deciphered it as Japanese is an absolute maniac, and must have had a great sense of humour.
More likely an excercize to prove that the methods other people have been using are non-falsifiable.
I recently had the opportunity to watch a captivating presentation by Dr. Nisha Yadav on IIT Gandhinagar's channel. During the talk, Dr. Yadav discussed an intriguing seal found in Bahrain that boasts a sequence of signs not found anywhere else in the Indian subcontinent. The presentation led to speculation that the Indus script may have been used to write another language. Can you decipher that seal by using your method and can shed some light about which language it was?
Yes, those are in Sumerian and Old Akkadian. You can see a video on that on my channel
Very scientific and very logical presentation.
Wow... it's like Ureka...Ureka moment for us.After listening to Mr Rao,Mr Reich & many eminent speakers( worker)& being little sceptic about the political buzz of Dravidian vs Aryan...you sounded very convincing.I wish we get longer scripts to further concretise your concepts.
A stunning presentation. Most convincing and logical and verifiable of all the deciphering claims. Wish you all the best to make this mainstream. I have a doubt. May be naive. Different decoration of same symbol is possible and not uncommon as you suggested with different style of 'A'. However if the same inscription using different styles for the same symbol, do you think that is ok? or could it mean a slight variation like capital/small letters?
The first letter (rightmost) is often a decorated letter, like you see in newspaper or book paragraphs. Even mid-inscription, it makes sense to use different forms to make reading easier. You often see this in logos.
I think this is brilliant work. However, the clarity and structure in his explanations could be improved so that they are crystal clear. I got the gist of his explanations and his claim of matching with Brahmi, that it would not have been possible unless this is actually what the Indus script is for (his regular expression based decipherment being self correcting, and thus would have a reached a dead end if the language of the Indus script was not Brahmi). However, he could have made a stronger case for the correctness of his decipherment, had he given: 1) alternative but reasonable guesses of the sounds of some symbols to show that they reach a dead end assuming Brahmi to be the language depicted. 2) Try the same for other ancient languages of the time including Sanskrit, ancient Farsi, etc., and show that his method/code reaches dead ends for each of these other languages he tried.
Finally, on a sminor negative note, is the issue of a lack of transparency in this presentation: a) his name was not revealed; b) he did not provide a link to his (apparently unpublished paper); c) he also seems a bit too blase about the fact that his paper was (apparently) rejected; just for the sake of establishing this decipherment as the correct one for the sake of human-kind, he should make revisions to it to better explain his method and rationale so that it is published in a prestigious journal. For this, one possibility is collaborating for just the paper writing/revision with Prof. Rajesh Rao from the U. Washington (CS/CSE department?) who has done some work in Indus script decipherment--available on youtube--(though not as comprehensive as here). If that does not work out or is not a good option for him, I offer to collaborate with him to write a better paper (I can just be a minor co-author--my main aim is to get this published, not being a co-author--I have enough paper of my own)--I am a professor of ECE at UIC, have published about 90 well regarded papers in prestigious journals and conference proceedings, and my research areas fall in the related fields of computer engineering and science. My name is Shantanu Dutt, and my univ. email is dutt@uic.edu (please no unsolicited emails from anyone else), in case my offer interests him (and I hope it does for the benefit of humanity).
Well done sir. I hope we can now unravel indus valley mystery.
Brahmi is a tamil originated scripts and no there are other tamil archaeologists found the similarities between tamili script and indus
This is because from Indus script evolved Brahmi and from Brahmi later scripts like Tamil, Devnagri etc
*North West India including Afghanistan was familiar with what was then a world lingua franca, the Aramaic script and language (for trading) that was used by the Medes, Persians and Aryans in Afghanistan as early as 1000 BCE. This helped in the evolution of Kharosthi in these areas, while Brahmi evolved in India from the transitory Indus script, say 2000-500 BCE, into a proper script both in the North and South. Further, Indus script and variations gradually involve variations of Brahmi; Brahmi/Sanskrit, Brahmi/ Prakrit, Brahmi/Pali and Brahmi/Tamil.* These references are, courtesy from a book written by Sri M R Mallya, *Ancient India, Search for a true chronology; From origin to 700 AD* Namaste.
Very interesting observation. I hope that more research could be performed to prove these and make it #facts. I enjoy all your videos. Great Job
Yajnadevam, Congratulations and Also thank you for your Brilliant work. Do you have mapping of group of symbols to corresponding sounds that you can share? Like 'ma' sound can be mapped to many symbols, Like what you have at 28:00 in your video, do you have that kind of group of symbols for all sounds? The reason I am asking is, I want to be able to read the script.
The indus script not deciphered not because its undecipherable, its not decipherable because of the politics. Every sane person who knows history already know that indus script has high probability of being Vedic Sanskrit.
YUP OBVIOUSLY TRUE LOLS.
@@rexxbailey2764 your caps lock accidentally turned on dude
@@playhard719 he is denying with you by saying it sarcasticly in caps
@@knox6546 I know that's why I said he accidentally turned on the caps lock
How can that be. Sanskrit was introduced here by the Aryans only by 1500BCE. IVC script predates that by at least 1500 years. Most likely proto-Tamil.
It's brilliant. Sir why don't you present to the higher levels of institution/govt.
Groundbreaking!
Pretty incredible- hats off!
Your Research must get Published..
Yajnadevam, thank you for a brilliant presentation. I’m curious to know if you did the language mapping with modern Sanskrit or with Vedic? Also, was mapping attempted with Pali or Old Tamil? Another point that was not clear was the mention of horses or chariot wheels with spokes in the context of IVC. My understanding from some earlier reading is that IVC did not have either. Could you comment on this please?
The language seems to be post-vedic as I did not find any vedic specific constructions. For mathematical reasons, it cannot be mapped to Pali or Tamil or any other language. Horses are mentioned in the inscriptions. Spoked wheels are so common that they form signs in the script.
Actually we now have evidence of both horse and wheels. So yea gg
Is the work published in a journal?
I have also seen a video of gondi language expert Motiraven Kangali's decipherment of Indus valley's script. That was also convincing. Have you any idea about that?
No, its not a valid decipherment.
@@yajnadevam okay
JAI shree RAM 🙏
When fish start from M in every Indian language?
So elephants are also sacrificed in Yagna ? The pashupati seal has elephant
No.
@@yajnadevam Then it can't depict be Vedic animal sacrifices
@@uniqguy111 Pashupati seal represents the various names of Shiva from Anushasana parva of Mahabharata, which are also animal names.
Was thus tested on Tulu/Ancient Tamil. Is there a Tulu dictionary
Yes, but there are no dravidian words that have 3 repeated symbols, nor does draividan have noun compounding
Why are everyone fixated on the language t they spoke?, I believe in the out of India 🇮🇳 theory so sanskrit and old tamil both evolved on the subcontinent, so it stands to reason that both were probably spoken. And because there were hundreds of cities along the course of the ancient rivers, concurrent cities in the south, and merchants from all of the ancient world coming there, how do you think they communicated? The oldest section of the Rigveda has many "Dravidisanisms" for want of a better term, interwoven into the Sanskrit. There are a few ancient languages that existed in BHARAT Then and still exist now like the tribal languages. So let language rest for a moment. The logic that the speaker is uding6is sound. How do you think akadian, sumerian, linear A and B or even etruscsn was deciphered???
Google search/Indus era 8000 years old
These were fish eating Vedic Brahmins so they used many fish symbols and were writing their prayers
Hmm... I belive you never heard of importance of fish in hindu belief system....... do read matsya purana........
By ur logic, many centuries later when people will see the Elephant statues of Mayawati, they will interpret that people of UP used to eat Elephants. Such a great way to interpret
What? It’s been deciphered?
Not too convinced of the authors claims.
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 if it was sanskrit we couldve deciphered it, its most probably proto dravidian
@@raghavarvoltore6517 bro its cleary sanskrit even dr niraj rai found r1a1 sample from sinauli site in this sample no steppe genes.sinauli is ivc site and 4600 years old domesticated horses also found from Binjor and Kalibangan sites.
@@bharathanand1762 There is no such thing as proto dravidian.
@@raghavarvoltore6517No amount of evidence and research will convince your DMK ass
11 signs in 17th century by shepherds in Hampi are common with iVC Signs . They are deciphered to be Gondi language .only tribals would have an idea of ivc signs
No, they are not. You can assign any value you want to a short text, even Arabic. You need to read a length exceeding the unicity distance.
@@yajnadevam No.. what I mean is - 'we don't know the script but we are deciphering using computer programs' , but the shepherds of 17th century wrote a sentence with those symbols. So it means that their inputs are more valuable than computer programs.
@@uniqguy111 A script can be used for multiple languages, Brahmi was used for Sanskrit, Prakrit and Tamil. Shepherds writing doesn't falsify the laws of information theory.
@@yajnadevam ok then could u pls try it on Gondi language ?
@@yajnadevam As per wave model of linguistics, there could be already an IE branch in India before Vedic's arrival. However one may bluff, Vedic is not a spoken language (atleast in India) and Sanskrit based inscriptions/coins are attested very late in India(AD only ). So IVC could be any other IE(not Vedic) if script is used for multiple languages.
Not too convinced after reading the authors article, we still can't make any conclusions on what language the Indus script was encoded in. All just speculations. Need further research.
Which part you think is speculation?
But is not it true for bramhi itself..they have completely Guessed the word Dhamma...and then same for Greek script also....
In Phonician Aphabet Sound value you can see Like D.fish type Variant of D in Indus,Indus Y letter in Phonician He & I etcth-cam.com/video/3kGuN8WIGNc/w-d-xo.html 👈👈🤔
This Pashupati seal Deciphered claim Language of Dwapara yugin Sankrit th-cam.com/video/Vv-G9A14kg0/w-d-xo.html 🤔👈 5000-3000BCE 🤔
speculation is right of everyone, I hope you too doing some dictionary match.............. there are total 17 works on the similar grounds from 35 years as per my self research goes, most of the people are vanished from the surface of earth.
Probably the vedìc llanģuc e was influenced by a proto dravidian. Làngusge
Definitley Proto Dravidian language was influenced by Vedic Language. That is why most ancient texts Vedas are in Sanskrit and not in any other regional language like Tamil
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Correction; Parpola doesn't decipher the Indus Script as "Tamil", he deciphers it as Dravidian but simply uses the Tamil repository to help him. However these words are common in all Dravidian. For example, a young boy in Brahui is "maar" and the word also appears in Akkadian, obviously a borrowing from Harappan.
Parpola's decipherment is shabby and lacks confidence.
He is just propagandist.
@@umax870 A useless scholar who destroyed ancient Indian history with his stupid aryan migration theory. Horses are found in North India before 1800 BCE which is fully evident from the horse chariot found at Sinuali . But this scum bag keeps saying they are not horse chariots and he keeps proposing imaginary Aryans coming in at 1500 BCE into North India and bringing horse chariots with them.
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 What is your objection to it ?. We have archaeological evidence of it from 1800 BCE and we have literary evidence as well little bit older than that.
GOOD INFORMATION GIVEN IN THE UTTERLY WORST WAY! 😑😒
What is the purpose of all these gymnastics. It is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Aryan invasion of India is true. There is no argument against genetic evidence. We are all products of mixing between Aryan invaders and native Indians(themselves a mix between Iranians and original out-of-Africa Indians) living in the Harappan era around 1500 BCE.
The family that conquered the world … originated in India
In genetic terminology, a “haplogroup” is a group of individuals that share a common ancestor with a particular genetic mutation. A haplogroup pertains to a single line of descent which typically dates back several thousand years. In other words, a haplogroup is a large, extended family or clan, all of whose members have a shared ancestry. There are two types of haplogroups: Y-chromosome (patrilineal) haplogroups, and mtDNA (matrilineal) haplogroups. Haplogroups are identified by letters of the alphabet (A, B, C, etc.) and sub-groups are denoted by letters and numbers (A1, A1a, etc.).
The Y-chromosomal (patrilineal) haplogroup R1a1a (also known as R-M17) is the world’s most successful extended family. Its members number in the high hundreds of millions, possibly over a billion. It is widespread across Eurasia, with high concentrations in Russia, Poland and Ukraine, as well as in the Indian subcontinent and the Tuva region of Russia.
R1a1a is closely associated with the spread of Indo-European languages across Eurasia. In India, R1a1a is identified as the haplogroup that represents the Indo-Aryan people. It records an uninterrupted lineage of males, from father to son, all of whom have descended from one common male ancestor.
Distribution of haplogroup R1a1a (purple) in Eurasia.
Distribution of haplogroup R1a1a (purple) in Eurasia.
This research paper demonstrates that the R1a1* haplogroup, which is found throughout Eurasia, originated in India [7]. Here, the * refers to all subgroups of the parent haplogroup R1a1.
The R1a* haplogroup which originated in India is at least 18,000 years old
The R1a* haplogroup which originated in India is at least 18,000 years old [7].
This more recent study published in 2015 confirms and refines the results of [7], demonstrating that the oldest examples of the haplogroup R1a are found in the Indian subcontinent and are approximately 15,450 years old [8].
This is a momentous discovery. It proves that:
The R1a haplogroup originated in India.
The Indo-Aryan people have lived in India for at least 15,450 years, which invalidates the theory that the Indo-Aryans invaded India 3,500 years ago.
The hundreds of millions of members (possibly over a billion) of the R1a family living across the world today - a very large fraction of humanity - are all descended from one single male ancestor who lived in India at least 15,450 years ago.
This discovery demonstrates the close genetic (and hence linguistic and cultural) affinity of Indians with the Russian and Polish people, the Vikings and Normans, and with the ancient Scythians and Tocharians, among many others.
This is irrefutable scientific proof that not only did the Indo-Aryan people originate in India over 15,450 years ago, but also that they expanded out of India and settled lands far to the west in Europe. It thoroughly invalidates the AIT.
Contextualizing contradictory genetic studies
While I have presented several research papers that invalidate the AIT, I would be remiss if I did not mention here that some other genetic studies claim that the AIT is correct. How does one interpret this?
The answer is simple: None of these other studies has been able to disprove the results of [7] and [8], namely, that the oldest examples of the haplogroup R1a are found in the Indian subcontinent and are at least 15,450 years old. None of them has been able to find older examples of R1a anywhere else in the world.
As long as the results of [7] and [8] stand, the AIT remains invalidated.
The myth of the Aryan-Dravidian divide and the “high caste”-“low caste” divide
The supposed Aryan-Dravidian divide is a myth. This Nature report, which cites three genetic studies, demonstrates that most Indians are genetically alike, belying the hypothesis of an Aryan-Dravidian dichotomy [9]. Other studies have also demonstrated that people in north India are no different from those in the south and that all share the same genetic lineage.
The R1a1a haplogroup is found in high frequencies in north Indians as well as south Indians, in tribal communities, and in “low castes” as well as in “high castes”.
Claims that the Dravidians belong to a separate, non-Hindu civilization are also discredited by ancient Tamil Sangam literature, which dates back to c. 300 BCE. The Mahabharata is mentioned in the oldest Tamil Sangam literature. The Vedas and the Ramayana are also mentioned in Sangam literature. Sangam literature mentions the whole of India, starting from lands to “the north of the Himalayas”, which contradicts the claim that the Dravidians were confined to the south of India.
The above evidence, taken together, demonstrates the genetic and cultural continuity of India from the north to the south, and proves that the artificial concepts of the “Aryan-Dravidian divide” and the “high caste”-“low caste” divide have no basis in fact.
ARYAN INVASION THEORY: This theory has its origin in Church’s reaction to the Western romantics who were thrilled to discover an unbelievably advanced language in Sanskrit, and even more thrilled to find that Sanskrit was part of the same language family as most European languages. They felt honoured to find such distinguished roots and the ‘Out of India Theory’ or OIT was born. This was the leading discourse till the 1820s when Church began its push back. Max Mueller was employed by the East India Company, and AIT was born. AIT assumptions are rooted in the Biblical racist history. AIT was given an arbitrary date around 1500 BCE, first to protect the Biblical date of creation - 22/02/4004 BCE - and to destroy the Indian chronology as it had the effect of completely destroying the Biblical world view. This conspiracy called AIT has four legs,
That there is a race called Aryan, a branch of the Biblical Japheth
That this race invaded the Indian heartland
That the invasion happened around 1500-1800 BCE
That they brought Sanskrit with them
Even if one leg is falsified, the whole theory crumbles to dust. Nobody ever proved this theory. Using archaeology, river morphology, literature, geology, astronomy and even linguistics and genetics, each of the four legs have been repeatedly falsified, but the Church and its adjuncts, including Islamists and Marxists refuse to accept it.
The Jaipur Dialogues have announced an Award of ₹2.1 Cr to anyone who can prove AIT. They do not have a single claim yet. On the other side, there is a veritable flood of evidence to disprove a theory which was nothing but speculation at the best of times, yet the entrenched powers that be in the academia, the Church and the Islamists just ignore it and try and find pathways around it. It helps them to communalise the issue so that the government remains defensive and does not touch the curriculum built by them over decades of being in power.
That is incorrect. Indus writing is 4000-3500 BCE, way before any population that can be called Aryan even existed. So whether any new population migrated or not 2500 yrs later is irrelevant to the question of Sanskrit language and culture.
@@yajnadevam Spot on.
Mulle miyan inside you know Aryan invasion theory of India is false by historical, geological and archaeological evidence, perhaps your genes got corrupted by the dark age false abhramic religions , hence you could not see the truth which was very clear to people of Dharmic religions.
Remember in our ancient scriptures it is mentioned that vedic kings ruled the entire world, more evidences will eventually come up, it is also mentioned that a demon named mahamada will came to spread darkness into the world and Islam is just that. Come out of it to clearly see the truth.
But where is Saraswathi valley?
And genetics say it is south indian and Arya brahmin migrate later around 1590bcm then this is Tamil script. And it is available all over India , means tamils were lived all over India, before Arya brahmin arrive to India. This becomes the marker .
Brammi is also Tamil script. King Asoka use that script since didnot have script. That is why he wrote 4 different scripts 1. Tamil brammi, 2. Karosti 3. Aramaic and 4. Greek.
After come to India, Arya bramin never actually started to write until king asokan and till today.
Saraswathi valley is near indus in ghaggar hakra.
Genetics doesn't say that no this is not Tamil script and it is indus script it is older than tamil version. No tamils didnt live all over india are you saying NE people are tamils? stop with th sameless lies. Stop with your brahmin hate priests dont invade countries it is the kings who do that.
Brahmi is a indus script. It has various versions and tamil version is just one of the version.
So it is logical why mauryans used indus script while living there. also kharosthi similar to brahmi is not tamil script LOL.
Which also breaks the Aryan migration myth.
Nor tamils had written it infact india has oral tradition of passing scriptures through orally.
So stop with your racism.
@@trollarasan it is fake like rg Veda and Sanskrit. We have the same script in tamilnadu.
Better study some science too instead of living in the fake fictious world of Saraswathi, vedha etc.
Dna says Arya brahmi came to India around 1500bc. Throw some bmac Brahmin skeleton into the ruins of harappa just like throwing linga everywhere in north india, you could find evidence too.
@@அரசன்நாடார்
It is not fake, unlike your fake Dravidian global culture. The script exists all over India not exclusive to Tamil Nadu.
No, it is not the same in Tamil Nadu it is a variant of it. So stop shamelessly lying through your teeth.
I should be saying that study science instead of living in a fake utopia of super Dravidian race, lumeria etc.
Lol tamil brahmi 🤣🤣🤣🤣.... dude ppl from ivc migrated to gangetic plains and central Asian and irianian migration happened during that time but they weren't aryas ... Vedas were written around 300 years later after final wave of migration ... and for your kind info ivc ppl were light brown skinned not black skinned coz they had 70-90% iranian farmer gene and hardly 30-10% andamanes tribe genetics 🤣🤣🤣,.. later these ppl migrated southwards where they found andamanese tribes and later mixed with them ... that's it ... dude get some brain you kids will claim entire world tamil one day in your fake pride
Joker Vedas were written in 1500 BCE and kid arthshastra was written in 356 BCE .... Joker tamil pride 🤣🤣
All languages inside tamil..
Tamil is inside all language..
Tamil is God.
Stop having orgasms anna
And God speaks in Sanskrit
@@HiddenHistoryofBharatsanghi
@@Bhuvanfire "Liberaandu" u fear too much from sangh but don't worry I expose fake Hindutva of Sangh & Anti Hindu Liberaandus like u.
When I was first studying ancient History of India, it was no brainer That Indus valley Civilization did not end and is a continuous civilization till present day. Recent DNA studies only confirms this further. This deciphering is cherry on the top. Thank you for your outstanding work.
DNA evidence? Really? Which corpses did they get DNA from?
a-genetics.blogspot.com/2022/10/r1a-explained.html
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 R1a1 from IVC prior to 2000 BC? Any links to this find?
@@podaran majorly brahmins have more ivc genome like iyer brahmins have 60% ivc genome 30% central Asian and 10% andamanese . This proves that there was migration but not an aryan migration aryan ppl are the one who have ivc genome ,and hence upper castes have more ivc genome compared to dravidians who have more andamaese genome
@@podaran kid they have only 30% and 60% they have ivc genome , ivc ppl were fair , light brown and brown , not dark like dravidians lol dravidans have hardly 20-30% ivc genome , majority of upper caste have it in high frequency . Dravidians have strong andamanese frequency (50-80%) which is again not found in ivc .
Whole upper caste (brahmin , kshtriya , vaishya and sat shudra)have ivc genome ranging (40-60%)
My two cents, this is brilliant and much more refined than anything I have seen on this topic. Again, with full respect, needs to be tested by multiple researchers to validate it like any other scientific discovery. , I would keep implication away from this scientific work here.
At last the Indus Script is meaningfully deciphered
Wish the ancient locations and Artefacts were in india and preserved well.
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Brilliant presentation and analysis! The scientific methodology adopted and use of probability that we use to solve cryptograms, and after all that hard work to confirm that Brahmi evolved from this! It has been "staring" at us for years!
Superb work. This has to be quickly examined. Has the potential to retell history
It took several hundred years to break the mayan code as per documentary in amazon prime “breaking the mayan code”after watching that I believe this way of deciphering is rational.
What a wonderful way of using reg ex and other constructs to mathematically and logically decipher. Thanks
This is absolutely groundbreaking material and needs to be urgently recognised in India and the World. I would recommend this be presented to the PM of India, it is worth of a Padma Vibhushan and even Nobel Prize. I hope this is being propagated in the archeology worlds. I would be interested to know if you have tried using this system for Dravidian Language. Also what is your take on the recent research on the word Peelu discovered in Mesopotamia (word for elephant tusk).
Yes, I have tried Dravidian a bit manually since I couldn't find a downloadable dictionary, it doesn't fit the script. People with downloaded dictionaries may have better luck. The pilu word is a joke. It exists in Sanskrit too. Also its unscientific to make a conclusion based on a single word since it could be a false cognate or borrowing doesn't guarantee the source. For example, the word "mobile" may be borrowed from English to Kannada to Tulu. Observers should not conclude "mobile" is a Kannada word.
Recently i visited an old monolith temple in himachal. It dates back to mahabharat times as per the tales. There I noticed a very repetitive text engraved at many places on the walls. But the symbols of that text doesnt match with qny of the symbols shown in this video. Plz send me any email address of yours where i can send the images
Do u have discord?
Which temple?
@@RakeshSingh-rt7bt masroor temples
This is very good. Did anyone try Prakrut dictionary to decipher the indus valley seals/language? We know that brahmi and prakrut going hand in hand from atleast Ashoka times… we see sanskrit inscriptions much later, most notably gupta perrod
Brahmi is a script and Prakrit is a language written in Brahmi script
Who the hell told you Sabskrit inscriptions are from Gupta Period.
Earliest Sanskrit Inscriptions are from 200B.C Ayodhya and Chittorgarh.
Inscription of shunga Era Found in Ayodhya is in Sanskrit written in Priyadarshi Brahmi
Inscription mentioning.
पुष्यमित्रस्य षष्ठेन
𑀧𑀼𑀱𑁆𑀬𑀫𑀺𑀢𑀲𑁆𑀬 𑀱𑀱𑁆𑀝𑁂𑀦
It is thamizhi script. Already proved!
Lol
@@ArvindKumar-rl7vsdon't make yourself a laughing stock if you have any counter arguments come out with it instead showing that you are a spastic by saying LOL, this any fool can write . Can you read and write in the first place?
excellent work and presentation.
Deciphering: What an amazing puzzle and demonstration of human ingenuity.
Bramii is later OUTSIDER'S CENTRAL/ARYANS BY NAME AND ORGINS NATURALLY ONLY TAMILL IS PROMINENT...
Great meticulous analysis of IVC script
Splendid work! Love fron Pakistan.
Path breaking work!
Finally it's deciphered and very scientifically done. Congrats.
It also refutes all the stupid theories of british origin regarding Indian history which have been floating around since decades.
On the other hand, it corroborates the idea of history that the indic viewpoint has always stressed upon, especially in recent years.
Now the important part is for this work & the researcher to get official recognition in the system.
Do you think you would make a whole detailed video for the whole paper on the decipherment.
I think it would help in exponential terms in increasing the reach of your research.
In Devanagari - certain alphabets change in style over time but there is no Caps and Small letter - I would ‘assume’ this might be true of Indus Valley Script which might be prototype of later day scripts.
It will be great to know ancient science and their lifestyle
There was no science back then. Scienctific inventions started in the West very recently.
@@NordicPolestar yes it was started with scientific Quran right?
अपनी अम्मी के बलात्कारियों को अब्बू कहने वालों तुम कुछ कहने के लायक नही
@@Pal_Sandeep You have trouble with English comprehension. What part of "West" do you not understand. West means the Western world. almost all scientific knowledge comes from the West, especially from Britain. Improve your English, not your hatred.
@@NordicPolestar i perfectly understood what u said its just that i aam littler hurt that didn't mention Quran.
Well it appears u are product of both communist & islamic mixing
Oh yajna devam!, do you see the epic meltdown in the comment section?
Amazing feat deciphering the Indus script. Kudos to the non-academia genius with open mind and no previous bias.
Mind blowing talk! This literally proves the continuity of Vedic civilization and culture.
BTW, @yajnadevam any reason that you do not give your real name and identity? It would be awesome to know who is the real life person behind this.
It's very annoying not to see the person talking in video. This is a video, the monitor should have informed the presenter to turn on camera. Starting at blank screen is painful
I would love to see Iravathan Mahadevan's reply to this paper.
Mr Mahadevan passed away unfortunately
this seems to be the begining era of tamil writing going by the fact that only tamil existed in Indian subcontinent and the symbols are commonly used particularly the Fish symbol. more particularly only tamil engravings are found 3000years ago.
All Indian written scripts has combination of alphabets - in Devanagari - there are half and full alphabets and many standard combinations of alphabets and then combining these with 10+ Matras - forming a Swar. My technical knowledge is limited but I guess you get the message - language writing in Bharat is incredibly advanced and complicated
The Indus Valley script is variation of Sanskrit parallels between Brahmi and Devanagari fish is very common symbol because these people lived along rivers and ate fish and chanted vedas they were called saraswats since they lived along saraswati river
What the connection with indusvalley script and sanskrit barbarian nomadic bandits from zorostian sect of central Asia dirtback.
Your Idioticity knows no bounds lil bro @@velu1671
Brilliantly thought out and logical!
Very good effort. I am glad that you could come this far. We need to build on this
It is sort of conference
Great work
Wonderful!
I suggest you start with another set of symbols and show it works or not. Suppose you accept a couple of symbols by Prof. X, and see if it goes anywhere. Or use A couple of letters that are particularly like Brahmi and see if it leads to the same set of alphabet-sound.
Indus script is logo-syllabic,where some symbols express ideas or words while others represent sounds. I don't agree that this script is a logo-phonetic script. But neverthless the interpretation of Indus signs with Brahmi characters is quite logical. I just want to add one more observation . There are 400 signs in Indus script. There are about Brahmi script has 368 total numbers of characters including the number of consonants are 33, vowels are 10, and the rest (325) are compound characters. This is a quite big match between Indus script and brahmi script.
If it's the Indus script which got evolved into brahmi script, then how do you explain the change in direction of writing?
@@Kartik-uu2goThose are seals right, if you write it from left to right and made it into a seal, it would be right to left. Idk just a guess. What if they were used as stamps?
Is the thrid category segmental script or phonetic script ?
Script has nothing to do with phonetic. Latin script for example is phonetic for Spanish but not for English
The central element id Rigvedic sacrifice is FIRE which is missing in the IVC tablets .The goat sacrifice in Dravidian style using knife is visible.
Goats are sacrificed in yajna. Dravidian sacrifices and rites are also based on vedic sacrifices.
There is no need for SECONDARY CODING as LETTER BY LETTER decoding has already been done by DR GUPTA ( DG) HARAPPAN CODE (DGHC 2021) that reveals ANCIENT INDIA PLACES & PERSONALITIES, RELIGION, DEITIES etc.
You cant ignore strokes. There are mutliple fish like signs with differentiating strokes.
Considering indian numbers (called Arabic in the west and called Hindu numbers by the Arabs 😂) and how those evolved into modern Western numerals
have you reached out to Rajesh Rao, 'coz he is also from software bg
great stuff! i only wish that you'd also had latin transliteration of these words
Good english . Easy to understand language. Watching it carefully.
I totally support your work sir🎉🎉🎉
Thank you
बाबा बागेश्वर धाम के धीरेन्द्र शास्त्री को बालाजी हनुमान की सिद्धि है, तो हनुमान जी से ही पूछ लिया जाये कि सिन्धु लिपि के अक्षरों का ध्वनि मूल्य क्या है। हनुमान जी तो विद्यावान् हैं।
I don't think we can rule out the possibility of multiple languages that coexisted in Indus and came to use this form of writing, as scripts can be shared. That is indeed the history of scripts in India when you consider bramhi. Today a single script devanagari is also shared. Granta script was shared by sanskrit in the south. This is all due to the western lens , who only know homogeneity and cannot fathom heterogeneity.
Could be. I heard Sue Sullivan who has deciphered it like Yajnavedam and her conclusion was that IVC people spoke both Sanskrit and Tamil
Indus Valley Civilization or Sindhi Tehzib of Pakistan. Our forefathers ❤🇵🇰 Pakistan Zindabad!!
So sad that some people of the great Sindhu Sarasvati Vedic Civilization accepted Arab Slavery.
Dhanywaad for your Bhagirath task.
I have a question about Dholavira signboard decipherment.
रक वरारक अररस।
The क sound is twice, but we dont see any symbol repeating other than symbol for र
Also र sound comes 5 times but the symbol for र appears 4 times
Both X and axe symbol are क.
Both spoked wheel and the diamond/rhombus sign are र. There was a roof sign above rhombus, which made it अर.
What does this means?
@@georgiopasca2720 "Diamond gem entrance" or "ruby diamond entrance"
@@yajnadevam If precious stones are excavated on the same site, I think it would be a valuable confirmation for your thesis too.
@@somusundaram7084 Gujarat has been the diamond and gem capital since pre-history
Excellent
Beautiful
same script found in Easter Iceland.....how.....?
Easter Island script is Rongo Rongo, you could argue some signs look the same but it seems to be a different script
Why did you not mention GONDI language . Gondi is Mohenjodaro and other Indus and indo gangetic language.
Gondi has nothing to do with Indus script.
@@yajnadevam How much of Gondi History do you know Sir ?
@@hkrtrivedi A script cannot be deciphered as two different languages, even closely related languages. Try reading this English comment as German, a closely related language.
@@yajnadevam Indus script can be deciphered. It is a pictorial script. Try watching videos by Gondi scholars. You will understand my argument better.
I have read that previous attempts were made by assuming the signs were Sanskrit. How different is your outcome than theirs. Were you able to compare them. And, how many languages have you so far run against the regexp.
No other decipherment is a full decipherment. No other decipherment is actual Sanskrit. They claim "middle indo-aryan" "prakrit" etc, which basically means they invented a language to fit their deicpherment.
@@yajnadevam Thanks much. Appreciate ur response. I have one basic question. You made an assumption that the letters have taken shape during ages and so the circle with or without spokes represent the same letter and so on. If it was really the case, why do you think they used the different forms of the same letter, say, in a seal or an inscription. In practical terms, I think people tend to disregard the usage of the old forms when they adapt a new one.
@@somusundaram7084 This is something we need to study next. My sense is that certain letters/graphemes are used together for certain words. Just like gh is used in rough while f is used in fish for the same sound. In fact there are 5 different grapheme clusters for /f/ in English. If the wrong one is used, it looks odd. Indus probably was the same. Eventually, the civilization advanced to a point where they standardized the script by eliminating duplicates into a smaller set of symbols what we today call Brahmi.
@@yajnadevam Awesome. Thanks so much for the quick response. All the best for your research. Hope you will be recognized by the intellectual community for your work.
I think one of the biggest missing part in entire deciphering by you is the biased analysis instead of actually analysis why it’s used means seals were used for trade which contains item code , unique ID like elephant or cow or animals then how to transport the materials… so just to make our understanding simple … even today too we use universal traffic signs to have a common understanding between different language speaking communities and intercity trades of agricultural products or gems, stones etc
This is where historians should come into action instead of being immersed in marxist bullshit and eurocentric eco chambers
No matter what... All these are only assumptions no way concert evidence..... Until and unless a bilingual text is discovered only then some light will be shed
You do not need bilingual texts to decipher a script. Mayan script and linear-B were also deciphered without a bilingual text.
@@yajnadevam People accept it , if it comes from foreigners, if some indian does it, they look for short comings.
@@dumdumdumdum8804 Assume I'm a foreigner lol
@@yajnadevam he means our people suffer from inferioty complex if white guy will say than only they will accept.
If u need more proof search " Thamizhi hiphop thamizha playlist" you will get fascinating proofs that its thamizh language. It is already proved to be a tamil civilization.
Dude writing developed in the mature period of harappa civilization which is (2600- 1900) so, i have zero idea how you cam up with the 3500 BC date. 🙄
When the Indus Valley Civilization thrived, Sanskrit - an Indo European language did not arrived into Indian sub Continent.
Sanskrit was brought by Aryans only at 1500BC to India.
Sanskrit is classified by scholars into Indo European.And it has many similarities to Latin, Greek especially Lithuanian.
Example:
Sanskrit:
Kas tvam asi? Asmi svapnas tava tamase nakte. Agniṃ dadau te śradi tada viśpatir devas tvam asi.
Lithuanian:
Kas tu esi? Esmi sapnas tavo tamsioje naktyje. Ugnį daviau tau širdy, tada viešpatis dievas tu esi.
English:
Who are you? A dream in your dark night. I gave you the fire in your heart, so you are god our lord.
The language of Indus valley civilization is most probably Proto dravidian, an ancient form of Tamil. This gets validated again from the Rakhigarhi DNA study which has absence of r1a1 gene found in North indians, and which had similarity with the Nilgiri hill tribe found in kerala-Tamil Nadu border.
It's all assumptions. Nothing can be proved.
R1a1 is found in y chromosome and the rakhigari samples were from a girl 😂
Thanks for accepted the ancient china, mesapatomia, indus, Egypt, Keezhady writing are found ancient tamil.
As a misinformation you said Saraswathy there is no Saraswathy, the river near Haithi which northern iran a river named Harakswathy is exact Saraswathy.
Language is important in indian language "S " is used but in Persian language "H" is used for example Sindhu (Indian ) says as hindu (Persian).
Dingoism, Your observations are not factual. *What of the Iranian name Haraxvaiti?* This name appears in the first chapter of the Vidēvdād along with place names Haetumant (=Helmand), Māuru or Margu (= Margiana), Bāxδī or dhri (=Bactria) etc and, of course, Haptahǝndu.
Haraxvaiti means simply ‘one who has harah-’. But Harah̦ - or Harax - is a stem entirely isolated in Avestan: it has no cognates, no other related lexemes.
This fact is extraordinary when contrasted with Sanskrit, sáras and Saras-vati! Because the Sanskrit word sáras has a host of relatives and can be derived directly and very lawfully from a root (dhātu). The root is √sṛ and in the ancient Dhātupātḥas (= lists of root-forms and their meanings). Reference; Vedic and Avestan by N Kazanas July 2011
@@bvshenoy7259 Even modern Word Sirakana सिरकना/सरकना/Khisakanaखिसकना/ खिस़कना/Xirakana स़िरकना come frome same root
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@@mahipalcharan6690 Thank you. Does the word Sirakana mean "get involved in a thing or put a wedge in between deliberately" ?
Looks about right, am so very happy that these days its the Indians who are proving stuff scientifically, while its the Europeans who are being arrogant and not going by science but by preconceived notions.
Calling someone else's work as unscientific talks volumes about the sheer arrogance claiming that only my work is right..
He gave reasons for it. You cant be meek when teaching
That's how science works buddy
his claim is on algorithm used and its generated outcome, not on the work, nor on himself. Yes he is saying we cannot assume word as we wish.