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it bothers me how the games now don't treat the mythicals as anything special. they just appear in some anime movie and then you get a code from walmart
Actually they've been improving how they are in the games. In oras you can get deoxys as part of the post game and even as recent as the crown tundra Keldeo can finally be encountered in game. Oh and Celebi finally returned in Crystal when the virtual console version came out a couple years back.
@@PkmnTrainerEmerald hopefully they continue to do that, Hoopa, diancie, marshadow and volcanion are cool mons but sucks theirs nothing special about obtaining them other than by code. Would rather do some cool quest to obtain them
19:00 well by the lore Arceus is not as powerful as it once was. Keep in mind the Lake Trio and the three dragons were created from Arceus' own being. Logically that would have left it only a fragment of its original power.
Not really Pokemon create more energy than them every battle with attacks and have 0 issues recovering from that theres 0 indications of him losing any of his strength thats pure headcanon
@@god9244 but the description is not of Arceus creating them out of energy but rather out of itself. We know losing part of itself can permanently weaken a Legendary, just look at what happened to Necrozma.
@@Ryodraco That doesn't prove that he lost power doing so we don't know if creating them out of himself means that he literally gave away part of himself that way to vauge and even if we don't know if he gave away parts that he would be weaker without
@@god9244 ok so think that Arceus needs the Jewel of life which just massively boosts his stats like the original soul dew did for Latios and Latias and that would explain why he weaker then other Pokémon without it since in the Movie he appears in he actually is weaker without it
I always consider Volcarona as a legendary and it’s pre evolution as pro type Nebby. This Pokémon was sorta of a Lunala that a bit of Solgaleo… That’s how I felt to a back to the day and now. Gen 5 Lillie: Larvesta get in the bag!!!
I think urshifu should be a legendary, considering it's ability and signature move is just broken to get it banned in even ubers🤣 It was given low base stat so that it doesn't become broken overall like zacian or mega rayquaza
Surprised this list didn't have the Kanto Birds. You can literally find them in the wild in Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee, and they roam around MULTIPLE regions despite being heralded as deities in Kanto. Even in the anime, Goh and Ash come across them and they're given the amount of fanfare of any other strong Pokémon like a Tyranitar or Metagross IMO. Regardless, I like the concept of Pokémon that once were legendary nowadays just being considered rare and powerful as more and more is learned about the Pokémon world, it gives things a realistic sense of passing time. Oh, also, if the birds are one of a kind, then how are there regional forms of them?
Type: Null is more than Legendary to me, Also Gladion gave me one. *Lillie pets and hugs Type:Null then become Silvally* I guess that there are two in Alola. Lol
I'd personally argue Silvally shouldn't be classified as legendary either due to the fact that Type: Null is literally just Silvally with a helmet on preventing it from going beserk. The only reason why Gladion & eventually the player would even get their hands on one is because they can be trusted to keep it under control.
Type:Null & Sylvally: Made in Lord Arceus' image - so an inferior, man made legendary they be. (should be able to breed) Phione shouldn't exist, it's a waste of space. As for Manaphy - it should follw the trend of the other "end dex" mythicals and be part Psychic type. (otherwise, Sinnoh should adopt Victiny) Heatran should keep the legendary status ( Maybe they can breed, but only deep underground in magma pools) Kubfu and Urushifu are just glorified Riolu and Lucario, so they Should loose their legendary status. Yeah, but the Lake Trio are Lord Arceus' "daughters" so...... (Even though I myself tend to omit them) Genesect were enhanced through *Science* to get legendary/ mythical status Poipole and Naganadel should be in the same class as V0lcar0n@ so they can be "actual" Pokemon; the rest of the U-beasts are just weird extra dimensional creatures that are the prime species of their home turf, and can stay and never return for all I care. (Also, they should have made more U-beasts and at least 2 pairs that can also breed and evolve; and give them their own Beast dex)
Aether foundation: Yo can I borrow your homework? Arceus: yeah just change it up a bit so it doesnt look like you copied it. Aether Foundation: thanks bro.
orange saying one legendery per game me playing almost every pokemon game and transferring all my legendery and mythical pokemon and having muiltiple mythicals and legenderys
I also thought the same with Zoroark since it had an event in B/W as well as a movie. And there was also an event with Zorua where u needed Celebi for it.
Instead of getting an Arcus they should give a held item that boosts all stats(banned in battle tower, competitive, ect) that you can trade forward in games. When you read the description of it, you get the pokedex data of Arcus. It could be an ancient scroll or tablet or something.
Red Genesect vs. Mega Mewtwo is basically Char vs Amuro. Genesect uses a zaku kick like move and uses extreme speed to accelerate 3 time faster, and Mewtwo is practically a powerful newtype.
19:57 the only way to experience that even for America was if you went to a toysrus and received arcues through mystery gift. The event lasted for like a week in november 2009
Orange: pronounces naganadel wrong Also orange: naganadel is still the weakest ultra beast in terms of stats Me: naganadel is uber tier lol the anime: calls it "na-gin-a-dull" for pronounciation Also Orange: Says "poipole is the only Ultra Beast not in a beast ball" Ash: releases Naganadel from a beast ball
Maybe Arceus could shed its ring as Nintendo could refer to it as something that kept it captive and like when its outside of the ring it is a vengeful god who wants to bring the destruction of the world or the universe for the wrongs that have been done by humans and all pokemon in general. This would be a form that cannot be used after subduing the god and could have 1530 base stats with 255 in everything along with judgement getting an upgrade and being 150 base attack but requires 2 turns to recharge after and will be super effective to every pokemon.
15:34 I find that hilarious since I caught the dupe Ultra beasts in otther types of balls to see how diffucult it would be, I guess none of them should be considered legendary based on that logic lol
I never said that in the video. I was defining what the game categorizes as "sub-legenday" Pokémon in the Battle Tower and that most of them have 600 base stats or less aside from when they're Mega. Out of that sub-legendary group I would only take out the Lake Trio and Genies
I think the problem with most modern Legendary/Mythical Pokemon is we just don't know enough about them like they just be getting handed out at McDonalds. If they actually had events in game and their lore was explained in more than the movies I think some of these would be really cool. Except Zeraora... it's literally just Super Sanic
I think the reason why mythical pokemon have their own categories is because these pokemon and their stories aren't known by many. So many people( in the world of pokemon) think of them as not real and omlyba select few know about them. Where as for legendary pokemon many people have seen them and have told stories about them most of which show them as heroes.
@@sabercat5490 That isn't completely correct. Not many Legendary Pokémon have been seen either, so you could technically say the same for them as well. Especially the box art Legendary Pokémon (and the third Pokémon). Many Mythical Pokémon are brought up in ancient folklore as well. I don't completely disagree but I definitely do not believe that is completely accurate.
Maybe this was the rule set for simplicity but game freak themselves have said that they aren’t legendary they aren’t based on any legend or mythical creature and they don’t have lore in the games
in pokemon ultra moon when i encountered necrozma i caught it first try in a beast ball because i thought it was an ultra beast but then my brother told me it is just considered legendary so i was very confused.
Pokémon Home considered Phione a Mythical Pokémon. Ultra Beasts *are* actually considered (sub-)Legendary. "Sub-Legendary" Pokémon is a fan-term, and I wouldn't say it's that they are not legendary, rather, it's that the Special Pokémon, as the group of banned non-mythicals are referred to as, are "extra special." Yes, the Sub-Legendary term makes them sound like they're some kinda Pseudo-Legendary, but again, fan-term.
Idk if I agree with Type: Null. It's bascally the modern Mewtwo, an artifical Pokemon modeled after an ancient Pokemon of myth. That's legendary enough for me.
'some of these weaker trios just need to get chopped' that mean you and 2 others gonna die? also why would you mention mythicals in a video about legendaries
Honestly...considering how important the lake Trio is...they shouldn't really be removed. Even if yeah it's sort of a "boring" trio. I like having as many legendaries as we do honestly. Ultra Beasts aren't as rare as legendaries actually and they aren't really minor (not sub I call them minor legendaries) legendaries either. Necrozma isn't a ripoff of Giratina at all.
You probably know this by now but arceus that we know isn’t arceus it’s just one piece of him or just a random avatar he created to see things in person
Giratina was banished to the distortion world by arceus which doesn’t make it a ultra beast since and was created by arceus too so it would be cool if it was a ultra beast but the story was already explained
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"First and only pure Flying type pokemon in existence"
Rookidee and Corvisquire: "Am I a joke to you?"
I honestly thought they were Normal/Flying like all the other birbs, learned something new today!
@@MunchingOrange honestly understandable, but glad to see them start to drop the standard Normal/Flying trend
@@lord_aqua team. Aqua
@@lord_aqua They haven't. Rookidee and Corvisquire aren't normal type because they have a knight thing still rather than just being a basic bird.
@Mamta Pathak Corviknight is Flying/Steel, it's 2 pre-evos are pure Flying
Giratina is actually from the normal Pokemon world. It was just banished to the distortion world for it's violence, making that it's new home.
You forget to say that Genesect is basically just a common prehistoric pokemon with canon and armor
Genesect is a mythical Pokémon
It’s like an urban legend that nobody knows if it really exists, least in universe
giratina and arceus should have there own legendary Rank like Fabled or smth
Wtf is giritin ?
uhhhh
Giritina
Its giratina
What about palkia and dialga are they just PESANT?
it bothers me how the games now don't treat the mythicals as anything special. they just appear in some anime movie and then you get a code from walmart
Actually they've been improving how they are in the games. In oras you can get deoxys as part of the post game and even as recent as the crown tundra Keldeo can finally be encountered in game. Oh and Celebi finally returned in Crystal when the virtual console version came out a couple years back.
@@PkmnTrainerEmerald hopefully they continue to do that, Hoopa, diancie, marshadow and volcanion are cool mons but sucks theirs nothing special about obtaining them other than by code. Would rather do some cool quest to obtain them
Munch: "Sub legendaries are the ones that arent found on the cover"
Suicune: cries in Pokemon Crystal
ever since gen 6 I thought manaphy-phione should have the same relation as diancie-carbink
19:00 well by the lore Arceus is not as powerful as it once was. Keep in mind the Lake Trio and the three dragons were created from Arceus' own being. Logically that would have left it only a fragment of its original power.
Not really Pokemon create more energy than them every battle with attacks and have 0 issues recovering from that theres 0 indications of him losing any of his strength thats pure headcanon
@@god9244 but the description is not of Arceus creating them out of energy but rather out of itself. We know losing part of itself can permanently weaken a Legendary, just look at what happened to Necrozma.
@@Ryodraco That doesn't prove that he lost power doing so we don't know if creating them out of himself means that he literally gave away part of himself that way to vauge and even if we don't know if he gave away parts that he would be weaker without
@@god9244 ok so think that Arceus needs the Jewel of life which just massively boosts his stats like the original soul dew did for Latios and Latias and that would explain why he weaker then other Pokémon without it since in the Movie he appears in he actually is weaker without it
‘The first and only pure flying type in existence’
Rookidee and Corvisquire would like a word
Just saying: Entei is the OG Volcano related pokemon, causing eruptions when it barks. JS.
That sponsor ad makes me want a Munching Orange food review channel
Channel name should just be “Munching”
The second I heard the word "sponsor", I started skipping ahead.
I always consider Volcarona as a legendary and it’s pre evolution as pro type Nebby. This Pokémon was sorta of a Lunala that a bit of Solgaleo… That’s how I felt to a back to the day and now.
Gen 5 Lillie: Larvesta get in the bag!!!
i considered zoroark a legendary
0:29 "don't worry guys they deserve it"
*Ah I see you're a man of culture as well*
11:05 - 7 years later and this still hurts
I think urshifu should be a legendary, considering it's ability and signature move is just broken to get it banned in even ubers🤣
It was given low base stat so that it doesn't become broken overall like zacian or mega rayquaza
"Heatran was the only pokemon associated with volcanoes"
Typhlosion and Entei both with the special move eruotion:
Arceus won't be in the remakes, there's no way they'll offer it before they give it a game with its name
Surprised this list didn't have the Kanto Birds. You can literally find them in the wild in Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee, and they roam around MULTIPLE regions despite being heralded as deities in Kanto. Even in the anime, Goh and Ash come across them and they're given the amount of fanfare of any other strong Pokémon like a Tyranitar or Metagross IMO. Regardless, I like the concept of Pokémon that once were legendary nowadays just being considered rare and powerful as more and more is learned about the Pokémon world, it gives things a realistic sense of passing time.
Oh, also, if the birds are one of a kind, then how are there regional forms of them?
I always thought there should be a Phantom class pokemon to cover the one of game pokemon, yet are implied to be more in world.
Tornadus is the only pure Flying type
Rookidee: Am I a joke to you
Type: Null is more than Legendary to me, Also Gladion gave me one.
*Lillie pets and hugs Type:Null then become Silvally*
I guess that there are two in Alola. Lol
When they first brought null into Pokémon I wished they made it breed able since you can breed metagross
I am the only one worthy of the status of Legendary
You are indeed right with Arceus. As a "God", it should be the strongest/powerful Pokemon in existence.
Arceus might be not strongest in games but in anime its the god
Ikr. Even though he could be killed by a Bidoof, it's not like its real/canon lol xD
Arceus is still a god and most powerful in lore.
in the anime a level 5 snivy could probably beat arceus if the storyline decides so.
I'd personally argue Silvally shouldn't be classified as legendary either due to the fact that Type: Null is literally just Silvally with a helmet on preventing it from going beserk. The only reason why Gladion & eventually the player would even get their hands on one is because they can be trusted to keep it under control.
I can agree if Type Null isn't classified Legendary then neither should it's evolution
You can encounter Keldeo in the dlc as well :p
Type:Null & Sylvally: Made in Lord Arceus' image - so an inferior, man made legendary they be. (should be able to breed)
Phione shouldn't exist, it's a waste of space. As for Manaphy - it should follw the trend of the other "end dex" mythicals and be part Psychic type. (otherwise, Sinnoh should adopt Victiny)
Heatran should keep the legendary status ( Maybe they can breed, but only deep underground in magma pools)
Kubfu and Urushifu are just glorified Riolu and Lucario, so they Should loose their legendary status.
Yeah, but the Lake Trio are Lord Arceus' "daughters" so......
(Even though I myself tend to omit them)
Genesect were enhanced through *Science* to get legendary/ mythical status
Poipole and Naganadel should be in the same class as V0lcar0n@ so they can be "actual" Pokemon; the rest of the U-beasts are just weird extra dimensional creatures that are the prime species of their home turf, and can stay and never return for all I care. (Also, they should have made more U-beasts and at least 2 pairs that can also breed and evolve; and give them their own Beast dex)
I always thought the lake trio were mythical pokemon °3°
My favorite is Uxie it's shiny was the first one I got in a fan game
Exactly. Every time I see them they scream Mythical all day to me. Kinda weird they're not....
@@PrinceJira Psychic type pixies is a common trope with Mythical Pokemon up to Gen 6
Aether foundation: Yo can I borrow your homework?
Arceus: yeah just change it up a bit so it doesnt look like you copied it.
Aether Foundation: thanks bro.
16:46: Again, what are these horses... Man someone fill me in lmaooo
orange saying one legendery per game
me playing almost every pokemon game and transferring all my legendery and mythical pokemon and having muiltiple mythicals and legenderys
I'm just sad that zeraora stole his backstory from the swords of justice
Tornadus isnt the only pure flying type anymore thanks to gen 8 so…
There are 2 more pure flying types in rookidee and corvisquire
I think he meant more as legendary pokemon being pure flying type which there r none
The ad after the Jersey shore joke 😂😂😂
I thought volcarona was a legendary for a long time after catching it in black, and was shocked finding out it wasnt
I also thought the same with Zoroark since it had an event in B/W as well as a movie. And there was also an event with Zorua where u needed Celebi for it.
Instead of getting an Arcus they should give a held item that boosts all stats(banned in battle tower, competitive, ect) that you can trade forward in games. When you read the description of it, you get the pokedex data of Arcus. It could be an ancient scroll or tablet or something.
Red Genesect vs. Mega Mewtwo is basically Char vs Amuro. Genesect uses a zaku kick like move and uses extreme speed to accelerate 3 time faster, and Mewtwo is practically a powerful newtype.
19:57 the only way to experience that even for America was if you went to a toysrus and received arcues through mystery gift. The event lasted for like a week in november 2009
bru 720 is just arceus humble stats when he goes gangsta mode each stat is gonna hit a million
10:19 Me finding about this sub typing of Pokémon and the lie of the last few years… I’m Lusamine more that situation. Lol
12:48
Munch rly forgot bout rookidee and corvisquire and said tornadus is the first and ONLY pure flying type in existence.
woops 😅
#1: Arceus
Me: **Loads shotgun** I just wanna talk to him.
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Explanation to multiple of same legendary Pokemon: WELCOME TO THE MULTIVERSE
It’s always bugged me that legendary evolve when for 5 gems they didnt
Keldeo was catchable in sword and shield my guy
Exception that proves the rule.
12:25 so the reason Arkanine was with the
legendary birds is its known by the pokedex as the legendary pokemon
I meant 9:25.
Orange: pronounces naganadel wrong Also orange: naganadel is still the weakest ultra beast in terms of stats
Me: naganadel is uber tier lol
the anime: calls it "na-gin-a-dull" for pronounciation
Also Orange: Says "poipole is the only Ultra Beast not in a beast ball" Ash: releases Naganadel from a beast ball
The Kantonian rare birds, shall not be called “Legendary” ! Look at their stats, they are weak..
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Maybe Arceus could shed its ring as Nintendo could refer to it as something that kept it captive and like when its outside of the ring it is a vengeful god who wants to bring the destruction of the world or the universe for the wrongs that have been done by humans and all pokemon in general. This would be a form that cannot be used after subduing the god and could have 1530 base stats with 255 in everything along with judgement getting an upgrade and being 150 base attack but requires 2 turns to recharge after and will be super effective to every pokemon.
15:34 I find that hilarious since I caught the dupe Ultra beasts in otther types of balls to see how diffucult it would be, I guess none of them should be considered legendary based on that logic lol
i did not know that the kubfu line were legendaries
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Bro you sound like Kermit I LOVE IT
Poipole and Naganadel are Ultra Beasts and Ultra Beasts aren't even Legendary Pokémon
Arceus boutta get a new form after using all plates 💀
Y'know you can see Eternamax Eternatus if it uses Eternabeam, right?
That's only using that move but in general to dynamax or eternamax it is impossible
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Not having a mega evalution should not be a reason for it to loose its legendary status. That literally makes no sense.
I never said that in the video. I was defining what the game categorizes as "sub-legenday" Pokémon in the Battle Tower and that most of them have 600 base stats or less aside from when they're Mega. Out of that sub-legendary group I would only take out the Lake Trio and Genies
I know GameFreak will never do it... but it would be so cool to see them give Arceus a special form or something that involved all 18 plates at once
Beta arceus is a more fitting design that emphasises the fluidity of god, and thus his freedom and power.
3 words:
Marshadow
Zeraora
Zarude
I think the problem with most modern Legendary/Mythical Pokemon is we just don't know enough about them like they just be getting handed out at McDonalds. If they actually had events in game and their lore was explained in more than the movies I think some of these would be really cool.
Except Zeraora... it's literally just Super Sanic
I personally believe it is dumb that mythicals are their own category. I always regarded them as Legendary Pokémon.
I think the reason why mythical pokemon have their own categories is because these pokemon and their stories aren't known by many. So many people( in the world of pokemon) think of them as not real and omlyba select few know about them. Where as for legendary pokemon many people have seen them and have told stories about them most of which show them as heroes.
@@sabercat5490 That isn't completely correct. Not many Legendary Pokémon have been seen either, so you could technically say the same for them as well. Especially the box art Legendary Pokémon (and the third Pokémon). Many Mythical Pokémon are brought up in ancient folklore as well.
I don't completely disagree but I definitely do not believe that is completely accurate.
What the heck is a kubfu?! I've been missing out on something hshshshs
It’s the pre evolution of Urshifu. As I’m sure you know.
@@czar17_28 🙃.....
Its a mythical pokemon in Sword and Shield.
@@sabercat5490 ohhhhh
That Poipole pun was so bad that the video just went to an ad😂🤣
I love silvally and null
Rookidee and Corvisquire are pure flying
Maybe this was the rule set for simplicity but game freak themselves have said that they aren’t legendary they aren’t based on any legend or mythical creature and they don’t have lore in the games
in pokemon ultra moon when i encountered necrozma i caught it first try in a beast ball because i thought it was an ultra beast but then my brother told me it is just considered legendary so i was very confused.
Legends of arceus is actually coming out on my birthday so i'm pretty exxcited
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Much respect on ur narative for Giratina
Pokémon Home considered Phione a Mythical Pokémon.
Ultra Beasts *are* actually considered (sub-)Legendary.
"Sub-Legendary" Pokémon is a fan-term, and I wouldn't say it's that they are not legendary, rather, it's that the Special Pokémon, as the group of banned non-mythicals are referred to as, are "extra special." Yes, the Sub-Legendary term makes them sound like they're some kinda Pseudo-Legendary, but again, fan-term.
Arceus should have an alternate form with all his plates together being a match of all types 1000 base stats and being called Omnipotent Arceus
Silvally is a Legendary idc what anyone says it's basically a Mewtwo Arceus that alone makes it very "Legendary"...
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Poipole and Naganadel are definitely proper Ultra Beasts because they both have the Beast Boost ability.
That is true. I just wonder how the Megalopolids got it in a Poke Ball lol
@@MunchingOrange maybe their Pokeballs are attuned to see it as a Pokemon.
I think the type: null in galar is one of the three original
Idk if I agree with Type: Null. It's bascally the modern Mewtwo, an artifical Pokemon modeled after an ancient Pokemon of myth. That's legendary enough for me.
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Holy- MunchingOrange is a Jojo fan?
That's actually my wallpaper lerolerolerolero
@@MunchingOrange I see
I thought the Lake guardians were mythicals
I need to think of life
So, a Pokémon is important to the story, but just since you don’t like their designs they should not be legendary???
'some of these weaker trios just need to get chopped'
that mean you and 2 others gonna die?
also why would you mention mythicals in a video about legendaries
tbh i just thought the only thing that made a pokemon a legendary is that its one of a kind :P
Arceus: Gospel Form, base stat: 1000
Genesect is Mythical and Arceus too. I think that Arceus should be considered a legendary rather than mythical.
Honestly...considering how important the lake Trio is...they shouldn't really be removed. Even if yeah it's sort of a "boring" trio. I like having as many legendaries as we do honestly.
Ultra Beasts aren't as rare as legendaries actually and they aren't really minor (not sub I call them minor legendaries) legendaries either.
Necrozma isn't a ripoff of Giratina at all.
You probably know this by now but arceus that we know isn’t arceus it’s just one piece of him or just a random avatar he created to see things in person
Maybe arceus is just a mount of a real pokemon god haha
Necrozma can travel through dimensions so wouldn’t it be sorta related to the time brothers
But, ultra beasts are not legendaries...
my man MO you be watching stardust crusaiders
Ngl volcarona should be legendary
The fact that Volcarona can manipulate sunlight is just ridiculous for normal Pokemon
Most of these should just be made to a unique pokemon category.. Of course Arceus being in a whole new level of God with million stats 🤓
Giratina was banished to the distortion world by arceus which doesn’t make it a ultra beast since and was created by arceus too so it would be cool if it was a ultra beast but the story was already explained