KEF R3 Meta: The Speaker to Beat.
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This is a purely ported enclosure, not mixture, not anything else, it's just that the output is a bit lower above the port tuning
@@ctr289 google extended bass shelf.
@@ErinsAudioCorner I don't need to. A lot of ported speakers have a little shelf above the port tuning frequency. It often happens when you tune the port too low for the woofer/enclosure and the woofers can't fill in the area above the port or when the port output has a narrow range and doesn't enforce the frequencies above the port peak. It has nothing do do with sealed operation or characteristics, it's just a slight variation in port tuning/characteristics.
@@ctr289 You are incorrect. This is not a purely ported enclosure. It's tuned with the shelf in place. You are supplied with a port plug and a partial port plug to tune the shelf. Btw I own a pair.
@@wmilas2 Partial port to plug to tune the shelf? Can you give any details? What does tune the shelf mean?! The shelf is already there without the partial plug or the complete plug, you just lessen the port output with the partial plug. There are a lot of speakers just like this, it's just a port that is tuned lower and the woofers don't fill the area above well enough. By contrast, if you tune the port higher, you'll have more output above the port, you won't have the shelf, but then the bass will drop at a higher frequency
Love it, you are the few ones that tell like it is and not try to sell everything being "reviewed" unlike many others.
Agreed thanks Erin have learned a ton from your videos.
I like that Erin sticks to speakers, too. So many other reviewers these days are featuring and including so many other components in their reviews of any particular component. Sounds like marketing, nothing more or less. There are so many different speakers alone that it's almost impossible to review most of them in any depth, as well as other components, too.
@@MJLUCEY-sd1mq you can easily tell because many of them whom shall not be named are now selling stuff
Outstanding review of a speaker i definitely want to own. I especially appreciate the comparison to other speakers, as well as the comparison to the regular Kef R3. But most of all I love your ear, because you have the same sensitivity to overly-boosted treble that I do, and insist on neutrality above all in the speakers you review. Thanks, Erin!
A superbly comprehensive and informative review. Thanks for including some helpful comparisons in the same price range, as well as the advice for anyone deciding between the new “meta” version and the previous model.
Glad to have you back! Love your reviews!
Thank you, Erin! Keep up the good work. Always informative and balanced.
Thanks so much!
Dang Erin you are cranking them out lately! I love it! Thanks man!!
Glad to have you back with your thorough reviews.
Thank you.
Sigh..these might be what I need.
Erin, thank you for your detailed review and analysis.
Great review Erin, this gave me the understanding of how best to use my R3 metas in my particular set up, and yes, they just sound awesome!
Great to hear!
Awesome review. Definitely on my short list for upgrade. Thanks!
Great review and introduction to this speaker. A bit rich for me, but I'll keep it on my radar. Thanks as always for your time and effort to share this with us all.
Awesome review and awesome speaker.🙂
Really is an absolute steal, when you compare the measurements of this thing to the Reference variant that is 5 times the price, it's as near as the very same with a different finish. I think Kef have really made a speaker that is genuinely aimed at being attainable without sacrificing much if anything. I don't normally buy speakers as I DIY, but I'm tempted to get a pair of these as a reference for future builds.
Only other speaker I've been tempted to buy is the JBL L100, although literally just for the 70's vibe and those orange grills.😂 Would love to see you review those if you ever get the opportunity.
Congrats for being the first to put these on the Klippel, Erin. As always, a teriffic review. Given that I already have a pair of SVS SB 2000s, these may be a great move up from my LS 50 Metas, which would then go to surround duty.
With a NAIM STAR the LS50 were horriable like Bose horriable. I have the LSXii for my macbook pro pro chip. Went with KEF R3, LS50 were shocking.
Glad to see you back, I hope you're doing well!
I just bought the Indigo Blue version. Can't wait until they get here. I'm going to connect them to my McIntosh MC6700 integrated.
Thanks Erin,, 👍⭐👍
Thanks Erin.. good to see you back in the saddle again! Please review Ascendo "The6" Passive on wall speaker
I appreciate your overviews in the beginning of your videos. 👍
Glad to hear that!
KEF dropping consistent bangers
Seems that way.
it just crossed my mind that when we talk about directivity, listening window and all that, any time two or more speakers play the same sound, there is going to be interference... so two sound sources produce a different directivity graph than just one speaker alone (again, when identical sounds are played simultaneously).
thank you for the review and all the effort to produce such good content.
Your data approach and thoughts convinced me to dip my toe into the audio world with these speakers as my first. These reviews are very helpful for people with no prior knowledge as you break down characteristics of what makes a good speaker and explain it very well.
I'm on the other side of the world so it didn't make sense with the affiliate links. Here's me showing my appreciation. Thanks and keep up the good work Erin!
Wow! Thank you very much!
Did you try Evoke 20 in your space?
Very nice, I just got the Kef R7's since they were discontinued and honestly it's a great speaker. I tried the OG R3, but without a sub it didn't really cut it.
I have a Rega Aethos powering my non meta R3. I understand now why audio shows use the Hegel H390 to power these bad boys. They can handle and thrive on quality high current wattage. REL subwoofer filling out the bottom end and you’re good to go. Amazing speakers. I’m sure the Meta version dials it up a bit too. Great review and have a great night folks!
Speaker sounds great. I like a little brighter speaker 😊 Great review Erin as always.
I have an old one, original R3 and I am happy with them. There are so smooth and warm sound with rotel A12 mk2. I can listen them all day long comfortable. The new one maybe are most detalic but, more sharper and dry too. Many users report hearing sibilance in vocals. No reason to change them for me.
Good review as usual! I have the feeling that a sub would be more necessary with those than with the lintons... but surely not for the same kind of listener.
Thank you for very in-depth and interesting review! For me, to pay that money, it would have to have +- 60 degree width. That's what its missing to be truly exceptional
Great video. Very interesting speaker. It’s rare to find a speaker with off axis response that is that good. I found I enjoy speakers with wide coverage as you do as well as a smooth off axis response because I can enjoy my music without having to sit in the sweet spot. Keep up the good work man! If you haven’t heard Danley Sound Labs speakers I would encourage you to take a listen and enjoy that. Certain Danley models are my favorite speakers.
I've been to their HQ. :)
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Get them in blue! They're dark blue nothing flashy. They look awesome
Like the new, pro background :) a bit more rgb led and we're good!
You have been missed welcome back
Parallel tuned 6th order question. 27 and 47 fb. 3.3 small chamber 9.9 big. For 2 12s. That setup sound ok
That compression response linearity graph is cool. The low end looks like it could be a cone breakup measurement. Olive and Toole talked about cone breakup as much more perceptible than THD. I wonder what Accuton drivers look like on this graph.
Erin likes a speaker! 🤯🤯
Hi Erin. I'm working on getting my brand new bass technology ready for market. It's going to remedy the crux of the bass limitations forever. A few recordings are posted on my channel that should leave many people scratching their heads in temporary disbelief. Two of the recordings offer a good depiction of what it's like in person. The indoor video and the 2nd take outdoor recording. Thanks for giving my work a look see. Cheers!
Good to see you back and hope you sre doing ok. I saw sales of the R series a while ago snd eas wondering if they were coming with "meta" tech down to the line. I was pretty much set in Arendal 1723 monitors for the front set but always being worried about that center channel and now this options come to the table 🤔
I have these speakers. I’ve found the opposite to you, maybe it’s my room, or perhaps my electronics. But I find the high frequencies a little polite and towing them in slightly helps bring everything including the highs into sharper focus. I also find that raking them with a gentle backward tilt enhances the musical involvement. Puts the listener in the front row, rather than a few rows back!
Looks like it is about coaxial speakers these days… looking forward to Ascendo review 😊
I really like your reviews, Erin! Great to see a channel/ review site like this.
I didn’t know HP filtering reduced IMD. Good to know! Thanks
I bought a pair of these when they were first available. I bought them in Indigo Blue with matching stands. They are very beautiful and looked great in my Living room. I was replacing a pair of Vienna Acoustic towers that I have had for some time. I was trying to downsize a bit. I ended up returning these and going back to my Vienna Acoustic towers. Now I realize I am comparing 8k speakers to 2K speakers. So it's not a fair fight. However I felt the R3 Meta was a great speaker. It was just a little thin in the lower vocal range and upper bass. It also sounded small in my living room. I could not get these R3 Metas to completely disappear in my living room. I am able to get my Vienna Acoustic towers to completely disappear in my living room even though they are much larger. Go figure... I do recommend the R3 Meta speaker but just don't expect miracles if you one who likes to turn things up. Go with the larger Meta models.
Thanks for sharing this with everyone.
If you buy the larger r metas, then they won’t disappear either then?!
Try the CSS Criton 1TDX Superior if you want to downsize but not in performance.
@@ATommy-lz4jd There is no specific answer to this. Your room will have a lot to do with this.
@@Audfile I always hate comments like this. Audio is very subjective. To say something is guaranteed better is simply misguided.
Thanks Erin. Still need to watch, but I'm sure it performs great. BTW, the company is indeed called "KEF", not "Kef". For "Kent Engineering & Foundry". 😉
I've thought about doing that with ported setups, but I've always questioned how useful it can be. I have a new project that's running a very small 5.25" subwoofer, and it's the first time I'm planning to run a shelf like this just to get the F3 low enough. I haven't decided if I'd try for more than -3dB though. It's one of the few things you can do to really extend sensitivity of a midrange woofer into low frequencies. If they tuned in a standard way, so flat until roll off, they would likely be stuck with a F3 quite high, possible 80Hz or maybe 70Hz. But as a bit of a trick to extend low frequency existence (and I mean existence), you can run an overly large enclosure and tune the port lower than normal. This will create that shelf. Then you push it as far as you can go, and there's still a pretty hard limit. Picking the drop is a judgement call. Do you set the shelf at -3dB, -5dB, or opt for something different. When I mentioned existence, at so many dB down, you won't really perceive that output over the rest of the music. So you really only have a small range you can get away with to hold sensitivity before it's basically not useful. You can play with that virtually with an EQ. You can EQ down the bass on a speaker set or headphones and play with a shelf like this, cutting out a few dB, then a couple more, and eventually that low end response isn't loud enough to be useful. You can cut more, even a lot more, and barely perceive additional loss. You've lost too much presence to be useful. This shelf can work the same way. It's neat, but it has a limit. You mentioned room response, and that is a saving grace if it's there and enough to help this low end out.
It's a neat process because it can help the bottom end quite a bit. You might be able to gain another 20 or 30Hz down which can be HUGE for low frequency presence and body.
There is a big negative to this though. The small woofer still only has so much excursion to work with. Even if you extend the shelf for sensitivity, you will still hit an excursion limit, and you may have to manage this in some way. Shelf or no shelf, there will be a hard wall you can't fix. You've only got so much excursion to throw at low frequencies, and that shelf is not helping you out. The sensitivity is there, sure, but the SPL capability drops. And you can see this limit higher up in the frequency band, not just the very bottom end. This is very likely why you are seeing that big dynamic compression spike higher up. That's very likely the first excursion peak in that enclosure.
This product is a good example of tone vs flatness. We are often remarkably bad at tonal memory, so it's easy to have an overall warm or overall bright speakers, spend only a small amount of time with it, and you will auto tune mentally to neutral. We perceive non-linearity well. We perceive slope poorly. You can have quite a few dB bright or warm on the ends, and if the response curve is flat, it will typically sound "neutral." It can be hard to decipher this without having some reference comparators that are known quantities. You see this more readily if you go back and forth between it and the reference devices (other speakers, headphones, whatever). It will immediately give you a stark difference of warm, bright, etc. when compared that isn't easily perceived otherwise.
Tone like this can also be a tuning method of compensating for the note body/weight. A speaker that outputs a thinner bass note can have this partially countered with a higher low frequency dB level. This is done quite a lot with IEMs because many BA based ones or even some dynamic driver ones run very lean bass notes. You can add a few dB over the lower frequencies and pump up those energy levels. Often, this tricks our minds well enough for it to perceive it as "full" and with good authority. This bump makes it "sound even" to our brains. The bass can even come across more crisp and articulate than normal because the note is actually leaner and boosted. It can sound good, even authoritative. This is something Kef might be doing when tuning the speaker this way. Even though I've never heard one, I can make a pretty strong guess towards it, especially if you're perceiving it as sounding neutral.
You can often have pretty excellent low frequency clarity this way, but you might lose a bit of texture and even some of the 3-dimensional presence cues that are in those notes. We often have a lot of soundstage room cues in these lower notes. This can affect others stuff like instruments where a cello might sound a bit thin. It's a trade-off. The thinner note can be useful for noisy rooms. The leaner bass isn't overly boomy in a poorly treated room. It will always sound cleaner than other speakers in the same room. However, the thinner note can make the speaker sound "small" if it's not compensated well enough.
Usually to test this I like to use a pink noise track and EQ to what I perceive as flat. Then I'll play music. When the driver is thin in body in lower frequencies, it will come across sounding bright. Pink noise doesn't care about note thickness so you are actually tuning flat for loudness, not note characteristic. So when you go back to stuff that does like music, it's really apparent. This is a good tool to gauge aspects about body of note or even energy of presentation, and it shows some of what sound engineers are doing to compensate for driver shortcomings. The driver might be picked or tuned for certain desirable traits, but there may have to be some compromises and compensations to make the package work good as a whole.
I have my speakers crossed in front of my listening position. Best position for my room, I move around when listening a lot as well
Thanks for the review Erin. I currently own both the revel 126be and the 226be but have previously owned the original kef ls50 and R3. Although I think both revels are phenomenal speakers I plan on selling the 126 and bring back the either the meta version of the R3 or the ls50. The point source nature of the kefs is a nice change of pace from the revels.
Hmm very interesting. I have owned the 228be and demoed the Reference 3 a few times and always felt the 228be was far better sounding. More open with much better highs and could play a lot louder. I used duel subs.
What do you think you missing from the Kefs?
I swopped out my 228be for JBL 4367s that do almost everything better. The 4367 has so much more detail. Top to bottom more detail and way more dynamics. I had both in the same room system then sold off the 228be.
Going from a tower to a bookshelf is definately a downgrade, referring to going from 226be to LS50/R3.
Not my point. I am keeping the 226 it is by far the better performing speaker but the kef ls50 with its coaxial driver does certain things better. Ever speaker design has trade offs.
Argh! These speakers have gotten great subjective reviews, and now this! And the blue ones are dead sexy. Guess it's time to start saving. Thanks for the great content Erin!
Fantastic review, how do you deal with the center channel if you are using the KEF R3 or R6 Meta? The speaker is right in line!
Erin, have you ever done Klippel measurements on an open baffle speaker? How would you begin to interpret those compared to a box speaker?
Great review! Would love to hear how these compare to the Martin Logan motion xt b100
Hi. Many times the bass response is like that if you tune the port lower. Longer port makes it go down earlier but goes deeper(at lower level) depending on the woofer to.
Just bought the R7 for £1500 instead of £2700. New R3 Meta are £1900, R7 Meta £4000. The price hike is enormous and cannot justify it atm. Still glad with a decision I made. Bass performance is great!
The Hi-Fi companies are getting very greedy, and they are cutting their own throat with these silly price increases. I know a dealer who has told me he has not sold one oair of the R11 Meta because they are priced too high, and I gathered that went for other speakers in the range. They are a big KEF dealer in London.
@michaeloconnor9465
Well, when you get up into that price range, there are a lot more "interesting" loudspeakers to choose from.
And IME, these days the majority of common consumers aren't going for the larger and especially taller floor-standing loudspeakers. Something more similar to the LS50 suit their design aesthetic and room/interior design sensibilities.
And if you are an audiophile type with a $6K+/£5,500 budget, you're most likely going to be more attracted to something a bit more "exotic" or unique from a boutique HiFi brand.
Awesome.
Excellent review!
Have you ever listened to Technics SB-C700?
Would these or the arendal 1723s be better suited for placement near a wall in combination with a subwoofer?
Thanks
Thank you!
Great video, thank you 👍. I am in the market for a new speaker system to cover both “pure audio” and 5.1 home theatre. It looks like the R3 Meta would make a great pair of front speakers. Could I please get a recommendation for centre, surround, and subwoofer speakers that would be a good tonal match for the R3 Metas?
@ErinsAudioCorner Apologies if the question has already been asked, but what amplifier or amplifier types would pair nicely with these speakers? an amplifier on the warmer side perhaps? Thank you
Does the R3 Meta sound more like the LS50 Meta? Reason asking is because I definitely liked how the LS50 Meta sounded more than the OG R3. Have yet to listen to the R3 Meta, although I personally prefer a wider dispersion speaker.
Would you say that a narrower dispersion speaker (kef r3 meta) is a better fit in a lively listening room compared to a wider dispersion speaker (revel m106)?
Another excellent review, Erin. I just purchased the R7, R2C, 2 pairs of R8s, and two KF92s during that huge sale. I wish I could afford the Metas, but this sale was exactly the one I needed to get into KEF. I'll be keeping an eye out for the R6 Meta review! And I know it's a long shot, but an R7 review would give me the full EAC measurement series. That would be awesome.
I don't think I'll be reviewing any of the original R-series speakers anymore. I did review the R3, R2c, R8 and R5.
@@ErinsAudioCorner Yep. I've watched all of those front-to-back a few times. I am hoping the R7 measures better than the R5, because it didn't fair too well in your review. May need to just save up for the R7 Meta or R3 Meta. I like having towers for my front stage, but may need to go with the R3 Meta for better performance.
@@ErinsAudioCorner but the r5 is the speaker that sells much less than the r7 r11, and everyone do the lazy way and review the small ones (small speakers)..., we need reviews of the r11/r7/metas....
@@ACM1000000PT I mean, I would if I could. I just don’t have the space or add-on piece needed to test tower speakers at this time. I’ve requested a quote for the Klippel piece I need but it’s about $5k. So for now I’ll just have to be lazy …
@@ErinsAudioCorner :( so sad, i thinked you just dont wanna lift the speaker;(. Everyone do bookshelfs reviews/measures but nobody towers, good luck!
Yo Erin realistically for moderate volume will there be a gain from getting an r11 over an r3 when I do not really have room for a subwoofer other then placing them directly under the r3 (which will look bad according to the wife^^)? I figure they might only go 5hz deeper.
This is great! Any chance you could get a pair of the KEF R11 Meta in to review?
I feel with the KEF R300 and now the R3 meta it's end game for me. I don't see any minimal improvements in frequency response will help improve sound when I can simply EQ to taste. Especially in home cinema setups where imagining is a non issue
I went with the KEF Q950 towers, which I've been very happy with, but now I'm wondering if I should have saved up a little more for a pair of these instead.
Thanks for the awesome review! Learning a lot from your objective reviews.
What crossover point would you suggest when adding a subwoofer to the R3 Meta’s?
I’d probably go between 70-100Hz. Let the positioning and room determine the final result.
Is there a reason you don't recommend extremem toe in (toe in frot of the listener)for time intensity trading? Toeing out reduces your sweet spot but gives you wider sound stage while toeing in widens the sweet spot but narrows the stage a bit. I run without a center channel with 4.2.2 setup. I like the toe in effect as it just really locks that phantom center imaging in. It also helps when you move about the room if your toe in is aggressive enough. You always get to enjoy both speakers that way.
I don’t see the need for this speaker. It works great at 10 degrees.
great review , i am thinking og changing to the r3 on there matching stands ,
think they look awesome in indego blue , i have ls50 metas on there stands at the moment
and very pleased , i have a mid size room , and use a roksan attessa streaming amp ,
the ls 50 i love but would like a little bit more weight behind them , i use an svs micro 3000
to do this but feel a maybe more happy with the r3 ?
the svs i also use in a 5.1 system in the same room with yamaha rxa1080 feel maybe i would
not need the sub with these as by no means a base head and listen to a lot of vocals and jazz ...
also looking at r5 meta as would not need the stands ..............
and must be more weight in these .........
most the time i listen near feild on my computer and used the kef lsx 2 with kanto sub and they are amazing .......
This is so concrete. I can push all the subjectivity aside, thankyou!
Thanks for the great content! In the written review you mention the potential importance of using a subwoofer with this speaker. Does that imply high pass filtering the signal going to the speakers?
Preferably High passing and low passing for both the sub and the KEFs at the appropriate frequencies roughly around the 80 to 120Hz region (I personally do 95Hz)
Good review, How does the B&W 706 S3 compare with the KEF R3 Meta? Which speaker has a better sound stage or better lows and are they equal in high frequency?
If you don't mind I would like to ask 2 questions.
1. For your listening what amp was used? I ask as I have a vintage Sony 55es 150w/ channel @4ohms making sure we have enough power to drive r3 sufficiently.
2. I'm running 2 rel t7x subs but am missing any active or passive crossovers, do you have any recommendations on a crossover to add to my system so we can reduce the bass going to the r3?
Kind thanks in advance.
When are KEF going to make an active wireless speaker in this size and 3 way format? Maybe a little larger to accommodate the amps.
They are proud of their speaker stands... ;-)
Hi Erin.
Did you get a chance to audition the R6 meta?
I was wondering if it would be best to go R3/R6/R3 meta, or triple R6 meta for LCR (with vertical placement for L+R)...
Any thoughts?
good review i would like to hear review of r11
Would love to see you review the Ascend Sierra-LX. I'd posit it beats this speaker especially when it comes to bass, and for $700 less per pair.
I have an office of size 12X16 with vaulted ceiling with beams and is considerably damped and it has ambient reflections because of various household items in it. My budget is 5k USD and I want bookshelf speakers. Can you please recommend something? My current speakers are Thiel CS3.6.
I like narrow dispersion speakers because less sidewall reflection. Granted if you toe them out you will get more sidewall reflection. I would listen on-axis and treat the sidewalls because the sidewalls should always be treated anyway. Kef has normal speakers sorted so I hope that in the future they would start making bigger real home theater speakers.
Yeah all their stuff, even the Reference 3 is too small IMO and lacks dynamics. I know people are saying BS but it is all about perspective. At the same price the JBL 4367 makes the reference 3 sound like toys.
@@JamesWilliams-gf8gm Depends what size room and what you are using them for. Dual servos subs with the Ref 3's and they get amazingly loud before distortion. The JBL's aren't nearly as linear. If you have a monster room, no subs, get the jbls and deal with slight kink in the linearity.
@@wmilas2 no one who has heard both would ever agree with your comments. The JBL is next level good. Silly dynamics and just sounds more real and breaths life into the music. It is more detailed too. A lot more detailed. There are too many factors to bother writing why they are more dynamic but they are. Dynamics is what makes music real. Not frequency response or anything else. From down the street you can tell a band is live. Why is that? Frequency response? Dispersion? Soundstage lol… all dynamics. The kefs simply don’t move enough air efficiently enough to have real dynamics. The JBLs don’t either but get a lot closer.
@@JamesWilliams-gf8gm the subs will move the air with the ref3, what are you talking? that was his point, REF3+Subs>jbl.
@@ACM1000000PT take a listen then let me know…. Dynamics are NOT in the sub bsss. Direct radiating tweeters are 2% efficient, 2%! I have heard the entire reference line. They are ok speakers. That do speakers things well.
That is the problem with measurements (I am a believer) they are a partial set. Square wave measurements are the only way to measure dynamics I can think of. For good dynamics you need good air coupling. Tiny direct radiation drivers will never get you there.
The hard decision is which color. I really like the white on my R300s, but the R3 Metas look really good in piano black with the dark grey baffles.
These or Perlistens (R series) for a multichannel? The technicals are quite similar even if the design is completely different.
Wondering how the Ascend Acoustic LX would stack up against this one?
sounds like good rears
Hai since you know the meta and no Mata please help me . I am thinking to get r3 meta and i currently have r7 non meta . Is it a upgrade or no ? My room is small so the bookshelf is good enough size wise .
Please review and measure the Heco Celan Revolution 3, I'm really curious how those would stack up
Andrew Jones recommends putting coaxial drivers below your ear level with short stands. You are recommended toe out. Is there much of a difference to how you get off axis? Thx
I’m talking about the same thing. Toeing the speaker out toward the room. The left speaker pointed at your left shoulder and the right speaker pointed at your right shoulder, basically.
Agree that original was a little too bright. Good to know the fixed that.
Are there mounting holes on the bottom for the stand mount?
Are u able to measure how the crossover components add or subtract from the sonic character of the speaker components? Like for instance the benefits, if any, of the r3 vs like a q150 crossover components.
I am torn between thesecor the R7 Metas. I plan to use a sub with either. Mainly for music but will add movies. Any feedback on these is much appreciated.
The source and amp i will use is chord dave , mscaler and nad 23 amp.
If you’re using a subwoofer then I’d be harder pressed to say you need more than the R3 unless you had room issues that meant you couldn’t cross the sub woofer above ~80Hz.
@@ErinsAudioCorner thank you.
Can any comparisons be made between the R3 Meta and the Mofi SourcePoint? Or are they apples and oranges?
Thank you once again for a thorough and informative review. Assuming a listening arrangement that forms an equilateral triangle between the listener and the speakers, would 10 degrees off axis equate to a 70 degree angle to the front wall, as 60 degrees relative to the front wall would be directly on-axis?
The triangle itself would still be the same 60 degrees. However, you would simply turn the speaker 10 degrees out (say, pointing at your shoulder instead of your head).
Hope that helps clear things up.
Thanks for that, I think I’m on the same page, just didn’t explain my thoughts as eloquently
Thank you for this comparison - as usual, top notch work sir.
Since owning the non-meta R3s, my wife likes them so much she wants that sound (and look) for the system on our TV as well. Any plans on an R5 or R7 review?
Thanks for the support! I did review the R5 but haven't reviewed the R7's. I don't think I'll be reviewing either of those in the meta version but you never know. Here's a link to the R5:
th-cam.com/video/6oCN4iawV4g/w-d-xo.html
Erin, your reviews are amongst the best technical pieces online. Fantastic work. Consider the following, how does a speaker move you? Does it touch your soul? Can it invoke passion? I would love to see some more subjective impressions within your work.
Looking for a pair of rear speakers for my ht. What is the better choice, r3 or the q550?
Good to see something that you like. I wonder how your methodology would work out if you were testing a non traditional speaker like a Magnepan or even better yet an Ohm Walsh. Most of your testing seems to be geared towards conventional designs. I would be interested in hearing your opinions on some of these non-traditional speaker types.
If you have a pair you'd like to loan me to review shoot me an email.
Happy Father’s Day!
This or the Philharmonic BMR for movies? Both paired with a sub.
I like your reviews. Well done. I'm wondering why you've done no Magnepans? Thanks!
I would but I can’t get anyone to send me some to review.
Did you aim Car tweeter off axis? Did u aim at sunroof?