New AMD B650 Boards: Mostly CRAP! Budget B650 Roundup 2024
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Asrock B650 Pro RS - geni.us/LDzoA
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Asrock B650E Steel Legend Wifi - geni.us/8MVB
Asrock B650E Taichi - geni.us/GIyBL
Asrock B650M HDV M.2 - geni.us/aXBgwrN
Asus Prime B650M-A WiFi II - geni.us/pHKPl
Asus Prime B650M-A WiFi - geni.us/yfXUpgz
Asus Prime B650-Plus - geni.us/OzCY
Asus TUF Gaming B650M-Plus Wifi - geni.us/X3e8nSy
Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus Wifi - geni.us/O2OC
Asus ROG Strix B650-A Gaming Wifi - geni.us/hsmz
Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi - geni.us/kUvp
Asus ROG Strix B650E-I Gaming Wifi - geni.us/gRnBxnJ
Asus ROG Strix B650E-E Gaming Wifi - geni.us/FRDTi
Asus ProArt B650 Creator - geni.us/Z5fsL
Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX - geni.us/UScs3FC
Gigabyte B650M DS3H - geni.us/CVhH
Gigabyte B650M Gaming X AX - geni.us/NqeP8
Gigabyte B650M K - geni.us/6ihR
Gigabyte B650M Aorus Elite AX - geni.us/fDrEp9
Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX - geni.us/cBkkv
Gigabyte B650M Aorus Pro AX - geni.us/vmwZj
Gigabyte B650 Aorus Pro AX - geni.us/n428E9M
Gigabyte B650 Aero G - geni.us/S9WU
Gigabyte B650E Aorus Master - geni.us/nbN8
MSI Pro B650M-A WiFi - geni.us/S8Ow
MSI Pro B650-P WiFi - geni.us/VkNjyey
MSI MAG B650M Mortar Wifi - geni.us/PrzJ
MSI MPG B650 Edge Wifi - geni.us/VzLDsQY
MSI MPG B650 Carbon Wifi - geni.us/ocgtaxz
MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk Wifi - geni.us/3z7LS
MSI MPG B650I Edge Wifi - geni.us/V2XA
00:00 - Welcome to Hardware Unboxed
01:30 - Ad-spot
02:13 - MSI Pro B650M-P
04:00 - MSI Pro B650M-B
05:21 - Asrock B650M Pro RS
06:30 - Asrock B650M PG Lightning
07:27 - Asrock B650M-H/M.2+
08:51 - Gigabyte B650M Gaming Wi-Fi
10:37 - Gigabyte B650M C V2
12:24 - Gigabyte B650M K
13:32 - Gigabyte B650M D3HP
14:30 - Test System Specs
15:40 - VRM Temperatures
21:25 - Cinebench 2024, 10 min loop
22:28 - Cinebench 2024, Single-run
23:07 - Final Thoughts
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Why the hell they charge so much for these days? My God! Most of them are absolute garbage. Huge thanks to Hardware Unboxed for raising public awareness.
LMAO
seriously the price of am5 boards is so fucking insane, i just went to am4 instead and got a 5800x3d even for a build i did just a month ago, and my other builds are 5950x, theres like zero reason to get am5 until the boards are not expensive as shit lol!
@@curryking1same here. I doubt we are alone in this
That's the doubleedged sword of capitalism : people are very quick to cry, shout and moan "mUh eViL cOrPoRaTiOnS" when in fact, the only thing a corporation does is selling products or services, and THEY HAVE TO SELL if they want to stay solvant. So if people want lower prices, they just have to stop buying.
You can stay indifferent longer than they can stay solvent, don't forget that.
@@curryking1 Absolutely delusional. A good AM4 board still runs well over 200$ at which point you can get a perfectly good x670 board for the same price. Secondly, even a ryzen 7600 beats a 5800x3d at gaming, everything else is just massively downhill from there. The boards in this video are like 100 bucks, that's about on par with the cheapest crappiest motherboards of any generation prior, what exactly are you expecting?
the types of boards that you see in pre builts described as top end
High-End / Premium parts 😂
"gaming PC!!!!1!! 64GB RAM, i7 (has i7 2600), Nvidia (GT710)!!!1!, 4TB SSD!!! Only $999!!!"
@@GewelReal That's way too much detail for a prebuilt ad
💯
@@Flashv28 military grade parts, lol
I love how this video is sponsored by MSI and yet Steve is clowning on them throughout 😂
I know this might be seen as some sort of win but it's still marketing. Sans proper boycott, do you know how companies truly lose? When people forget they exist and don't shop from them anymore.
@@BleedForTheWorld all these companies do something wrong. if u want to let them die then u would have to give up gaming altogether.
@@Dark.Syndicate truly
@@BleedForTheWorld
no people need to find their spine and make companies hurt in the only way they understand, money.
nothing will get better as long as people are spineless and wont hold anyone/thing to account. it's just going to get worse overtime and the longer this goes on for, the longer it's going to take to fix.
It does show MSI don't play childish blacklist games and are still willing to work with creators, even on content that leans negative to them.
This is what you should be wanting to see, not that infamous nvidia media blacklist garbage from a few years back.
Absolutely no one.
HU Steve:
Gets paid by MSI as a video sponsor.
Continues to thrash MSI motherboards in the same video.
Very professional and pro consumer honesty.
Thanks Steve. Love your work.
Such an effort to review and stress test a heap load of motherboards like that.
yeah good point
You have to admire the MSI as well though.
They knew this was gonna happen and they did it anyways.
no not at all they should make better products 🙂 @@GameslordXY
I can’t tell you how valuable these videos are for system builders. Nobody else does it as well as HUB.
yeah really nice to have those, although it's really guessable if you know the specs and vrm designs of those mobos
@@julfy_godwhat the fuck is a vrm design bro
@@wheezel55 basically, if the vrm is trash your CPU will be unstable and have reduced performance. you see those metal cubes around your CPU on the motherboard? those are vrms and the more of those cubes you have the better the ''vrm design'' is.
Important to note that on many of these B650 Gigabyte boards you are unable to overclock/undervolt the CPU due to bios restrictions (as far as I know). A friend purchased a D3HP board and has been unable to tweak CPU voltage nor has he been able to use PBO2 for undervolting. This seems to be a common issue online. Unsure why Gigabyte would restrict even undervolting on these boards. FYI Make sure to look into BIOS capability before purchasing.
EDIT: Please take this with a grain of salt, but a user posted their correspondence with GIGABYTE support where these GIGABYTE models were said not to support overclocking. Extremely disappointing that I had to dig for this information as it wasn't readily available:
-B650 UD AC
-B650M D3HP
-B650M D3HP AX
-B650M C V2
-B650M Gaming Wifi
-B650M D2H
-B650M S2H
-B650M H
what kind of wording do i specifically need to look for because these snakey manufacturers hide it well.
@@H786... i think the best is to search a specific mobo you're interested in and see if any reviews are able to go in bios and do all sorts of stuff like undervolt/overclock just so you have an idea on that specific board before buying i think that would help quite alot
Please mention mobo model number
Go for aorus for oc
Not buying a gigabyte product ever then
Goddam, was waiting for the Mobo King, since he announced it on the podcast.
Great, as expected.
MOBO King.... you mean the channel Actually Overclocking...
Hes litteraly the king nerd of all MOBO
if you have not seen his stuff, check it out
@@fepethepenguin8287you're talking about the guy that Overclocks everything, including his hair and fake american accent? 😂
@@scroopynooperz9051 huh
No he don't show his face
Actually hard-core overclockig is the channel
@@scroopynooperz9051 Super weird take on your end but he lives in the UK lol, that's why his accent is a bit odd. IIRC he moved to the UK when he was younger so he has kind of a hybrid accent.
Last year I bought the MSI B650M-A with your advice, and I'm pretty happy with it! It actually has a one click PBO profile that decreased my 7600X's temps about 12 degrees and it's power usage about 30 watts all while maintaining 5.45 GHz all cores and not a single crash ever since!!! for a couple of clicks, that is AWESOME!!
I have the same motherboard and almost the same CPU (7600). These two products were a great deal when I bought them and are delivering impressive performance at low temperatures.
Cheers!
i’m looking to buy this mobo, do you know how long it takes to charge your phone using the 10gb port?
I have the same board, how did you do this?
But can it run a 7950x at full boost for hours on end, as that's the only true mark of quality according to this video.
It’s not a bad motherboard, but I think you should have spend the extra $50 on the Asrock B650E steel legend. At $200 it offers 2 more M.2 slots than the MSI one, and better VRMS. In addition the top PCIe slot and M.2 is Gen 5.
so Tim is marketing MSI monitors while Steve rips MSI for misleading marketing on motherboards :)
good, unbiased HWUB W
@@RogerkonijntjeIndeed. Shocking that a company can be good at one thing, but bad at others. It's almost like they have different groups within said company that have different levels of competency!
@@benjaminoechsli1941 true
@@benjaminoechsli1941 MSI isn't bad at making motherboards by any means. They can produce good boards at decent prices (they've done it before) so this product launch is deliberate, and I'm sure most of these boards will end up at third world countries where costumers aren't informed enough or don't have the means to be so.
MSI isn't omnipresent nor is their QC from one product applicable to an utterly separate entity. Putting MSI on blast for their motherboards while also praising when they make good monitors, is what actual non-bias is.
If you're trying to imply that blasting their motherboards means they should be hating monitors too, then you are clueless.
If we stop buying they will reduce prices. The price-to-performance gains don't seem to justify the price inflation over the last decade or so.
Just stop buying them with the objective that they never make those crappy handicapped models ever again.
@@Splarkszter A lot of us already do that but unless it's the majority or a huge portion of customers also doing it then we won't see change.
who is we? the people commenting on a youtube tech channel? that represent less than 0.5% of the market?
Here in the Philippines, most of the $100-135 boards in this vid are minimum $175 lol There's barely any b550m boards at the $100-135 price range. What a terrible time to build/upgrade your PC
That idea didn't work for Graphics Cards.
Never undersestimate the importance of quality MB review ;) just missing a single "M" letter in the naming can make a HUGE difference ;) Keep up the good work folks!
Yeah. It is disgusting that manufacturers do that.
The "M" is in 99% of the cases just a designator for microATX. Only difference here is that some manufacturers have chosen to make a microATX version with the same name as the fullsized one, but nerfing the VRM to the point where you wouldn't want to use the board for anything faster than a mid-range CPU (7700/7800X3D). That said whoever buys a 7950X and sticks it on a super-budget board probably should look into a different hobby anyway...
It's actually a terrible motherboard review. The only thing reviewed is the VRMs in a way that no sane user would ever use them. How about testing them with say a 7600 or a 7800x3d and reviewing the actual features rather than torture testing them for hours with a 16 core cpu that costs 600$ in a 100$ motherboard.
@@Knaeckebrotsaege "mid range cpu" then proceed to list the fastest gaming cpu on the planet. But that's what these boards are for, running a 7500f-7700x or a x3d chip. They're low end b650 boards, everyone forgets a620 is a thing, these are just a620 boards with extra features. Just like some x670 boards are b650 tier quality with the extra x670 features.
Thank you very much for the in dept review!
Most interesting motherboard review I've seen in a while.
To be fair, not many places seem to review motherboards these days, and this round up offers up heaps of data.
Great video! Love the work, thanks Steve!!
I'm happy to be typing this on my pc upgrade to a 5800x3d with MAG B550 Tomahawk Max WiFi about 2 weeks ago.
Nice
I've had a 5800X3D on an MSI B550A-Pro for about two years. Great VRM. I think I paid $100 for the mobo. Granted, I had to add a WiFi 6 PCI board, which added about $40 to the cost. But it's been a rock solid combination. It's almost criminal that these poorly designed B650 boards even exist.
Tomahawk b650 any good?
I truly appreciate the work you put into these motherboard reviews. I refer to them often when building new systems. Thank you for your hard work and dedication to excellent content.
thank you for your quality work in calling out these products ... you guys are the best keep it up ❤
This is a great round up. Thank you for the work you all put into this!
time is o'clock
Your videos are very helpful for purchasing B650 board, thank you.
Love independent reviews from you guys!
Very helpful video, Hardware Unboxed. Thanks!
I'm running an ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-F with a 7800X3D, and I am pleased with the combination.
Some of those temps are even more alarming when you consider that the Arctic Liquid cooler is blowing air directly at the VRMs. If you're using any other AIO there's going to be little to no air moving across them. If the budget boards are this bad you can't easily claim you can get AM5 boards for as low as $120 unless you're shopping very carefully. Thanks for the heads up Steve.
Superb content .thx for the hard work 🥰
Great work Steve! Thank you for this!
This channel makes the best motherboard videos, you haven't led me astray. I got an MSI X670-P Wifi last year because of your video.
Thanks Steve. Love ya work
I was about to order my mobo for my new build and changed my decision based on this video. Thank you, great timing!
really appreciate this am researching parts for an am5 plateform and i was confused about mobo!
Bought a B650M-HDV/M.2 based on your recommendation, very happy with it.
Does PBO Work?
@@Flashv28ofc
Do you use rgb? I red it doesn’t have rgb headers
Which cpu are you using?
@@knightlydude777 I do through my case's rgb controller, not having RGB header is imo the main issue with the board (if you care about that of course)
It's just as important that you show us the bad products - the ones to avoid - as the good ones. Well done!
Are they bad though? We're seeing these boards being used in a way that they were never designed to be and many of them still passed. Do you think that we'd be seeing these results in a gaming build with an R5-7600 or R7-7800X3D? I sure don't. I think that these boards would most likely be ideal for gamers, especially with their low prices.
@@AvroBellow The boards were tested in the ways they claimed they could be used.
@@QuentinStephens None of them claimed they were specifically for running a 7950x, which they all did run with just fine. There is zero review on any features or quality aside from can the VRMs run a cpu that no sane user would ever put in this board.
@@QuentinStephens Also, particularly with budget offerings, these are running a b650 chipset, not the budget a620 chipset, making this a low end product made of midrange parts, compromises have definitely been made to hit this lower pricepoint, if that compromise wasn't in the VRMs, where was it?
@@AvroBellow You nailed it. These boards are bought and used with Ryzen 5 or max. 7. Not R9. To really give useful information to the audience these boards should have been tested with those CPUs and and mainly in gaming. This is what these boards are mainly bought and used for. This would have been very good information for the buyers. This review has very little value to anyone.
Fantastic job on the video! Not something I've though about much because I don't tend to get the most power hungry components, but still very important knowing what you are getting. 👍
Really solid vid! Hope to see you do something similar with mid-range priced boards for the AM5! Again excellent!
Gold standard of MB reviews! Thank you for the effort!
If you're building an entry-level AM5 system today with plans to upgrade as AM5 CPUs evolve, spend your money on the motherboard and the PSU. If you cheap out on either one, you'll regret it.
Needing 200w+ delivered to the cpu is kind of niche usage. Most people will never need that even if they upgrade on am5. Especially as ryzen are rather efficient even on the high end (7900, 7950x3d).
No need to overspend. A mobo like the decent b650m asrock one is fine for most for the next 8 years. If most people would actually buy only what they need, there would be less complaints about high prices and also we might also see prices drop.
But people like to overspend money and complain about it as if they were forced to.
Of course, if you use your PC for heavy workloads (not gaming), you'd better buy a mid range 200$ b650 one to be safe.
@@PalaC1 Nobody knows, not only do we have zen 5 coming, but zen 6, perhaps zen 6 doubles the core count and does something about the thick IHS, like raising the cpu up like intel did with the i9 7980x3 skylake-x series with a second pcb under the IHS to get the core closer to the surface. If AMD did this, they could push zen 6 with 32 cores to 300-400w like intel is doing. Who knows, intel may come out with something competitive and AMD may be forced to chase higher power like intel has.
@@PineyJustice Zen 5 is already confirmed to be an 8-core CCD. So, you can expect the 3D chip to have the same or lower TDP than 7800X3D, so if you're on the budget, this cheap motherboards would be enough for the foreseeable future upgrade.
@@807800 I said zen 6, not 5. In 20 years of building computers and helping people fix them, I don't think a single time have I ever seen someone happy they cheaped out on their motherboard or psu. To go from the very cheapest mobo and psu to good stuff, we're talking like an extra 100-150$ here, save up a little longer since these parts last multiple generations.
If you are buying a $100 mobo you are not normally overclocking.
Thanks for much for doing this, Steve. I find this content very useful.
Great vid! Very informative! Will definitely save us bucks
Just had a build with the asrock b650m pro rs wifi (7600x). Amazing board for the price tbh in europe.
Just updated the bios, turned on expo 6400mhz cl32 and selected the pbo on -20, 85c preset. Solid as a rock. Also performs like expected in cinebench. Kind of weird it lowers the power draw since it should be able to handle the full 200 ish watts like the other boards. Especially since voltage and frequency are the same.
Could have gone for the "much better on paper" asus b650 plus wifi but the stability on (lower end) asus boards isnt very trustworthy (stability overall and memory speed, every new bios is a lottery, even the wifi had problems with lots of people).
Another build with the asus x670e plus wifi is solid although a lot more expensive.
One could say, that AsRock is solid as rock.
Me too! Price on that board was really good in Canada. And it worked great for VFIO
damn those J650 boards, so problematic
B650???
@@fepethepenguin8287 it's a podcast reference
Yes, give us a J-series and... maybe a Q-series for the other company? boards for budget builders that don't mind a cheaply-built board because midrange and budget chips don't need something stronger.
G650 works better. Where G=garbage. 😅
@@benjaminoechsli1941 Do you one better, and it already exists. The A620 line. These are bottom tier boards using a midrange chipset, that's why they're fairly cheaply built.
Thanks for the info. Helps alot.
So glad you posted this video when you did. Been planning to upgrade to AM5 and was gonna get that Pro B650M motherboard 😬
Thx for your work guys!
I really dont understand why so many sleep on asrock boards. I currently have 2 systems with ASRock MB and they both just run perfectly. The ASRock B650E Phantom Gaming Riptide WiFi is paired with my wifes 7700X and my 7800X3D sits on a B650I Lightning WiFi and it works like a charm. I dont know why there are so few tests about the B650I.
I would've given you a huge hug if I was still in ASRock, nevertheless I'm happy that you're happy with ASRock products.
Riptide is a good motherboard that's what I have
Probably because they have a history with cheap, very low quality products. It is good thing that they have improved but if you look like 5-10 years back all the worst (big brand) MBs on the market were Asrock models. And yes, they were horrid and the quality was poor. It is very hard and time consuming to gain good reputation but it is very easy to loose it very quickly and that is what Asrock did just a few years ago.
What about b650mt ASRock
Please do a breakdown of am5 itx!
Thanks Steve, a really valuable review
Thank you very much for all the hard work here. This is the type of information I really like to arm myself with when building a new system. Love you guys!
In Brazil they charge a very high premium for boards with integrated WiFi and Bluetooth. It would be awesome a benchmark for WiFi adapters that would also include a comparison between integrated top mobo, pci adapter and usb adapters. Average speed, range/distance from router capability
Sorry, but I'd rather fix bent pins than benchmark WiFi adapters.
@@Hardwareunboxed agree, WIFI is an absolute pain
Just buy pcie adapters that are wifi 6E or better. That also include decent antenas.
@@potatoes5829 Yeah. It's cool to have but ethernet is the way to go imo.
@@Splarkszter this is also an option
Just 5 Hours ago i was looking at some B650 Boards for next Upgrade, good timing!
I have settlet for these two but ill wait for Price reduction and Updates for next Gen Support! (If it will happen)
Asrock B650E Taichi Lite
ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI
Get x670 boards. Highly recommended.
Asus x670 prime WiFi is good. Buy whichever. But I'd avoid all b650 boards.
@@ralphwarom2514 The Asrock has incredible Vram idk why its branded as B650 at this Point its literally better than alot of x670s..
@@ralphwarom2514 X670 is just B650 with another promontory chipset.
4 lanes come in.... 4 lanes go out, its a daisy chain like a USB hub in 2005.
B650 still gets 2x NVME from the CPU (potentially PCIE5) plus another NVME from the chipset which is enough for most people.
Even if you get an X670 with 2x NVME from the chipset.. they're still both connected to the cpu by pcie4 x4 downlink.
Great reviews about the B650 boards, thanks man.
Great roundup. Thanks
Like and comment to support the video. Thank you for your motherboards test. They are the most extensive reviews for sure.
I never realised you hadn't reviewed the B650M Pro RS. Its already highly recommended the last view months on Reddit in various PCbuilding subs.
The HDV/M.2 remains the budget king. What would be the first budget choice if you need wifi? Or should we kinda buy our own wiif module and insert into the HDV/M.2?
If you absolutely need wifi, I would buy the hdv/m.2 and add your own wifi chip.
The new AMD motherboards come with the mediatek/amd mt7921 chip (marketing name: rz608/rz616) which is awful. I personally find intel wifi chips to work most reliably (tho make sure you get a PCIE version, and also an antenna).
That being said, in my experience even a gigabit ethernet connection will be a far nicer experience than even the nicest wifi chipset (especially in terms of reliability).
@@potatoes5829 oh I'm with you.. I'm on cable myself but get asked about wifi parts very often.
Also I don't know about reliability I guess? And then buy antennas extras, or does the HDV/m.2 comes with antennas? (I know it has the connections)
So I'd add something like a AX210
@@DDHDTV some wifi chips come with the antennas
I believe it would be something like "ax200 desktop kit"
or you could buy the antennas separately
Asrock are still blacklisting any reviews who call them out on their bullshit so no buildzoid or hardware unboxed.
I was about to purchase the Gigabyte B650M Gaming WiFi. Thanks for saving my money 👍🏻
Just stay away from Gigabyte forever 😂
Shit software, slow updates, mid hardware, oblivious support team
Gigabyte is bad avoid them, along with ASUS
Six years ago I got AsRock b360 Pro board you recommended. This year I getting new PC, and I'm definitely pick stuff from your recommendation list.
Love your doing this, thanks. This is really helping the community. I did follow your last round of advice, and ended up with an Asus board that is screaming, as in coil whine. I would love if you made your testing methodology to be able to run these boards at load and in idle, with hardly any fan and pump noise, and if you could report on the coil whine. I use the hdv/m.2 as well, and it is dead silent. That means, that since I lucked out and found a 3060 with no whine, my system is now virtually silent, even at full throttle, when air cooled. I actually need to check if the fans are spinning, to tell if it is on or not, as there is no other way to know.
I know you don't tend to point it out, but basically all the users I interact with, need WIFI. Again, the hdv/m.2 support this, if you get like a Intel solution for it. Some of the boards at hand, do not really support WIFI, unless you want to block the airflow of your GPU, and some really do not support it at all. Sure I can figure this out on my own, but this is a feature in higher demand among all the users I face, than what you do in your reviews.
Again, I love your doing this, but if you could test these in under real and silent solutions for coil whine, I would really appreciate it.
Those who want to know
dead silent (r7 7700): Asrock b650m-hdv/m.2
moderate whine, particularly at idle (all cpus): Asus TUF GAMING B650M-PLUS WIFI
The "C" suffixed boards are usually built to the standards of the California Energy Commission's "high expandability" category. AsRock made a B550-C that also had a boatload of PCIe slots, for example.
I'd thought C letter in the Gigabyte board was for Crypto stuff lol. 😅
It's C for crypto (able to connect a ton of GPUs via risers, while sacrificing other features like LAN etc), nothing to do with california, but of course FUD like that gets upvoted to the moon... smfh
Can I just say that the rating is fokking stupid, one PHYISCAL (not electrical) PCIE x16 slot gets 75 points....SEVEN TIMES the rating of one M.2 slot....despite more than one x16 slot rarely being useful in any end-user context.
You usually have one GPU, and the only other thing that I can think off is a card on which you place multiple NVME SSDs, which is something only run in HEDT systems for people that work with their pcs. Not something a typical home end-user does.
A good expandability Layout for an end-user PC would be:
1 PCIE x16 slot
1 or 2 x4 slots (useful for say a 10G LAN card or a SATA extension card, or a card for one or two M.2 drives)
2 PCIE x4 slots (useful for a soundcard or an SATA extension card)
(all spaced to be useable with a 3-4 slot Graphics card. and all electrical not just physical PCIE slots.)
At least 2 M.2 slots for storage, better 3 or 4.
4 SATA ports, after all one still might need HDDs or some older SATA SSDs.
4 RAM slots No compromises, two slot boards are stupid!
decent oboard sound
at least 2.5G LAN, better 10G.
Optionally WLAN.
3-4 USB 2.0 slots for input devices, 4 USB 3.0 for various devices, 2 USB 3.1 for quick storage, 1-2 USB 3.2 for even quicker storage.
1-2 USB 4.0
Good VRM, no shitty ones.
Two-digit error/fault code display. That should be MANDATORY for easy error diagnosis.
Dual Bios, so the board is not bricked if the BIOS/UEFI goes wrong.
That is a current config, further technologies like optilink to be added as they become available to the end user.
I have an MSI X570S Carbon Max Wifi and if I only calculate the PCIE slots and the M.2 slots I get 335 points, 455 if I add the SATA to the mix. But with only 4 physical not electrical PCIE slots and one M.2 you can almost match the much more useable config on my board.
The X570S has 2 PCIE x16 slots (waste as they either run 8x and 8x or 16 and x4 via the board and the second is deactivated if M2_3 is used with a PCIE NVME SSD), 2 PCie x1, 4 M.2 slots M-Key, 1 e-Key PCIE (WLAN), 4 memory banks, 8 SATA slots (halved to 4 if M2_4 is used). Add to that 2 USB 2.0, 4 USB 3.0, 2 USB 3.1, 1 USB 3.1 C-type, 1 2.5G LAN connector, onboard sound (don't use it, have a soundcard)
Politicians should shut the Fokk up and let us technicians write the standards!
Speaking as a PC repair tech.
@@Knaeckebrotsaege Then why did they mention it explicitly on both pages? You can check Asrock's website.
I'm glad I have a Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX Version 2(the version is very important for this board). Thanks for validating my purchase.
Yes the version is important. Because Gigabyte downgraded the PCB to only 6 layers compared to 8 on the V1 but priced the same
Just shitty Gigabyte things 😊
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Your motherboard guides are so crucial for people building new systems. The sea of different motherboards, all with slightly different model names, is so confusing to navigate on my own. Your testing sorts out the best value motherboards very effectively, and can be easily referenced again later when prices change. Thanks for putting in this work!
Thanks for the efforts man, appreciate it.
seriously the price of am5 boards is so fucking insane, i just went to am4 instead and got a 5800x3d even for a build i did just a month ago, and my other builds are 5950x, theres like zero reason to get am5 until the boards are not expensive as shit lol!
crapy crap ! You're the best for this kind of review ! We need this kind of motherboard review, thank a lot for your work.
this is also with the liquid freezer aio that has a vrm fan, so some of the ones that are close to throttling will do so with less airflow going over them.
Thank you, I now put the ASRock B650 PG Lightning (ATX) on my to-buy-list for future upgrades. Nice.
Arguably better to review the trash than the best. Great job Steve!
This is a great piece, thanks a bunch
It's one thing to assume someone who spends the fuzz on a Ryzen 9 is not going to scrape the bottom when it comes to their MoBo , it's another thing entirely to tell them they CAN use the boards, or that they are a great choice. Of course, anyone who has been around this stuff for any length of time will tell you, it's nothing new...
Cheap boards can be good I used a 5900x with a B450 tomahawk max for a bit, and that board was only 50 euro.
Congrats on 1Mil. You guys deserve every bit of your success.
this exact type of perf. testing on motherboards is sorely needed (by people like me who want to actually make a decision on a board) i wish there were more such presentations. thanks. I also appreciate the ones you have done in the past for other platforms.
I usually buy cheap crap tier boards since I don't tax my components much, but it would be cool if prices these days reflect the quality :(
What about Eagle AX from Gigabyte?
It's a $180 US board. I hope it's good.
@@Hardwareunboxed I've been using it in my new PC for ~2 months. but the fact it uses 1Gbps LAN makes me feel weird, even though I will never use this speed. (its $155 for me)
Thank you for your reliable work. Your channel has been a great source of information for me.
Thank you for the old school content!
Guys a heads up for new users, if you want to run XMP ram speeds on your new DDR5 motherboards you much use just 2 sticks of Ram. Do not buy 4 sticks due to a sale or something and expect to run XMP speeds it is extremely unlikely to work.
All the best
Damo
To note, Gigabyte also released quietly refreshes of Aorus B650 Elite AX (and non AX) called Aorus B650 Elite AX (non AX) V2, with the PCB nerfed to 6 layers and the board cost pretty much the same... 🤨
@@vdis i don’t know, noticed few days ago when i wanted to get one and was out of stock, then the v2 appeared in my country.
interesting, good thing I got mine a year ago
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@@kingplunger6033 mee too, very happy with it.
Thank you Steve and the entire unblocked team, you definitely helped me out a bullet with a couple of those. I’m looking at building a new MATX system with a 7800 3-D.
great video, thanks
boy i dodged a bullet. i'm glad i spent the extra money and got the b650 aorus elite ax instead of the gaming wifi for my 7800x3d. thanks for your work in testing these boards.
I spent the extra for that board too. The specs on the budget boards were a bit too budget for my tastes 😂
Thats also the board I went with
You think its worth it? In the same predicament ordering parts for my pc after not upgrading for a long time.
@@sleeppppp yeah do not go cheap when it comes to am5 boards
@sleeppppp I got the aorus elite ax. Nice board for sure.
It's very insulting to me that almost all big TH-cam tech channels are not doing motherboards reviews anymore.
Even the ones that are called ffin "Gamers Nexus" you don't need to have a motherboard for gaming? Just endless of PC cases???
I am utterly annoyed and Hardware Unboxed is keep the standard high for all of them!
Great work. Thanks a lot.
This type of information is hard to come by. Thank you for bringing us quality content.
Spain/Portugal
Amazing b550 - 130€
Barely decent B650 - 175€
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5800x3d - 300 $
7600x - 200 $
B650m hdv-m2 is 135€
@@timiko4 I can only find that one for around 150€ (out of stock too 💀)
@@Roland_Deschain 5800X3D princing is a bad joke over here
PCDiga - 360€
PCComponentes - 325€
Globaldata/CaseKing - 350€
Theres still a couple of stores with 'decent' prices tho (Chiptec - 310€)
@@get-in-2-get-out774 I gave you as an example that buying b550 mobo is not worth it. If price is higher for 5800x3d, its even worse.
1 minute ago is crazy 💀💀
Important testing given people want to find inexpensive parts they can build with. Much thanks.
Recently built with the B650M PG Lightning which I picked for its specific features and for pairing with a power frugal Ryzen 7700. The BIOS was fine too.
estoy indeciso entre esa que mencionas que cuesta 120 vs la MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI placa base AMD B650 Enchufe AM5 micro ATX que cuesta 180 .. algun consejo?
Good report , now I know how far I can go with the MSI board k variant. 👍🏾👍🏾
So you're sponsored by ASUS eh?
Emotional damage!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for the information.
Thanks a lot for making this video!
I would love to see idle power consumption measurements of boards as especially AM5 seems to differ extremely.
Some use gets 30 W with the H/M.2+ while another one with a different board gets 60 W. It's important to set the right buttons in the UEFI for best idle measurements. So we would need two different measurements for the best picture.
Thanks a lot for these roundup videos - tremendously valuable when shopping for a budget AM5 board. Hopefully, the next generation of GPUs and Intel CPUs are exciting enough to justify similar videos. :)
The even more crazy thing here is that you used the Arctic LF3 AIO with a great VRM fan as well. Better than the older LF2 AIO.
I've been happy with my MSI MPG B650 EDGE WIFI motherboard build. It's a step-up from their MAG TOMAHAWK WIFI B650 board, which is also a pretty good motherboard (I used the B450 version of it back in the day on my 3700X build).
Great work Steve. Thoroughly appreciate the efforts put in to this. The B650M Gaming WIFI from Gigabyte is going for around £100 on Aliexpress and you've helped explained why. 😅
Great work, Steve.
This was very very useful for me while picking up a B650M for my R7 7700... Keep creating mind blowing content like this!! Good work mate!
Thank you for all your hard work.
Huge thanks for this video! I've been thinking about a AM5 upgrade for months now. Boy is it a minefield out there.
Thank You a lot for this one guys.
Awesome, thanks!!
perfect, i was going to buy a new motherboard with a limited budget and you conveniently uploaded a video suited to guide me, i consider it one of the many synchronicities i experience every day
Great video 🙌🏻
Great work!
It would to be nice to have a look on the new b650 Eagle and msi b650-s wifi too. You are really the only one who does this kind of reviews. Thank you so much for that!
The MSI B650M-B is available at the bigger Australian retailers. With currency conversion all the big name stores sell it at US$102.
Great work Steve! However, i was hoping there is a mini ITX board comparison in this Video.