AMD announces new CPUs... Intel should be worried
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- AMD just announced their new AM5 Zen 5 9000 series CPUs and TWO new AM4 CPUs at Computex!
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That 9700x WILL be extremely popular in the sff pc community I bet you
Yeah 16 thread 65w is crazy for SFF
Sorry for my ignorance but what is SFF?
@@karanKarnani it stands for Small Form Factor for PC cases.
You called it. I'd use it if I didn't need more than 2 sata devices. One problem with socket AM5 boards I've found is the shortage of storage ports. The ones I've found were single NVME and 2 SATA. My SFF needs 3 drives and the nvme.
I was just eyeing it on seeing 65w only too. Def a candidate for my next SFF downsize
I think the best part about zen5 is that amd doesn't increase max boost frequency and any cache, but somehow increase big performance and more power efficient. that's amazing
Intel just keeps adding more and more power to their cpu's thinking it makes it better -_-
A few months ago leaks suggested Zen5 struggled to get same clocks as Zen4 and even thought we might see lower clocks. The fact they managed to squeeze them out to the same clocks as Zen4 while keeping or increasing efficiency is amazing. Zen 6 should hopefully get more clocks with power efficiency still, compared to Intel. What's also good about Zen5 is the reduced chiplet latency. That's huge. Should improve gaming performance if someone gets a 12 core or 16 core cpu. Might even mean double x3d chiplets (probably not)
Intel making my CPU coolers work overtime
I dont call 16% average big. COS that IS what IT boils down too
And MHz overclocking speeds only stable at 6)6400 for years was a Joke anyways
I Like AMD but people today dont understand that after the CPU the RAM comes and helps the CPU
And the RAM speeds AMD supported dont Help any CPU and are way more instabile than even Intels oc 8400 which was crazy anyways.
Lets pray the New Boards and CPUs are stable cause Performance inst AMDs Problem IT Always was stability and fuckups
@@JButterZJ16% is bigger than zen 4 IPC gain over zen 3
I am very satisfied by Zen 5 being on AM5, supporting PCIe 5 and DDR5. Fives all around.
then you can add a 5-series Nvidia GPU
Just picked up a 7800x3d, you’re welcome, y’all.
Huh?
@@NBWDOUGHBOYhe's saying it's not over 9000
I got one at the start of this year, best Decision I ever made
my 5820k died couple weeks ago after 8-9 years of service, then bought a 7800X3D. Love it.
I just picked one up too 😮
Yo I'm still on AM4. I run a Ryzen 7 5700x. I love that they are making more Ryzen 5000 CPUs. I have a lot of good CPUs to pick from when I want to upgrade. The best part is that they will still be good and relevant. LOL
I can still game on my 12 year old intel i7 3820 HEDT processor.
I call it relevant enough. Not for anything competitive though. My ps5 blows its doors off and was like 1/4 of the price, thanks to console wars, it does stay competitive!
I drop a 5800X3D into my AM4 motherboard well worth doing
@@jamesgodfrey1322 Ya, the new AM4 offerings don't appear to be faster than my 5800X3d, and they are only 75mhz faster than my 5800x out of the box. My 5800x does 4725 all-cores just plugging it in. Notice they don't use any comparisons to what's already available, rather they cross the isle. A 5950X3d would have mattered for the platform...
X570 + 5800X3D. My only regret is I should have gone with a B550. I'm building a second PC next year and will let my son use this one. I'm definitely getting a B650.
@@chs_ambs8356 I already have a B550 motherboard so I can just upgrade to the 5800X3D from my 5700X
Meanwhile, I am still on Zen+, I love my cpu too much and is doing its job. I still got my Ryzen 5 1600 AF clocked at 3.7GHz since 2020. I am using a ID Cooling FrostFlow x 280mm liquad cooler and temps never go above 53C(Its winter now).
The biggest win with all the PCIe gen 5 lanes is that it will allow for more NVMe storage. Any modern GPU can easily run full speed in x8 Gen 5 slot, so the 2nd x16 slot can be used in x8/x8 configuration and have PCIe to NVMe cards with 4 drives, all gen 4 all running at x4 speeds. Absolutely insane. If we add to that the additional at least 3 more m.2 slots, potentially 7 NVMe Gen4 drives, all running at full bandwidth. And while yes, the actual noticeable difference in the performance outside of synthetic tests or copying large file can rarely be found, it still stings to pay basically the same for SATA drives as for NVMe ones.
I was going to build an AM5 machine but my current X570 has more life in it with the new 5900XT - I’ll do that instead and get a few more years out of it.
I always want performance but the stability I’ve got now is insane and there’s no need to do a full swap.
I’m very pleased.
same here!!! im about to drop the 5900xt in this bad boy and keep on trucking LMAO.
I hope I can keep my 5800X3D a few more years. Even though it uses so much power from watching a youtube video
Spec-wise, the 5900XT looks almost identical to the 5950X, I wonder if there are any actual differences besides the 100MHz reduction in the max boost clock to justify a different model number. Plus, that price Jay mentioned is pretty much what the 5950X goes for on Amazon right now.
i thought it was going to have full 3d mem..
Just bought a 5950X two weeks ago and I'm glad I did
I find myself becoming an AMD fan more and more.
My guess is am4 will be around until zen 6, am5 will be around for zen 6 and zen 7 then probably drop am4 and bring out am6 with ddr6 support for zen 7, 8 and 9
i mean w 5800x3d am4 will be relevant for alot more years to come, its par w 7600x
The biggest problem with the AM4 socket was its power limitations but if AMD can keep increasing performance and efficiency then maybe they can keep the AM4 socket around for another few years. Good to see AMD is still trying to keep budget options open for people who just need a CPU replacement or just want a slight upgrade but don't want to buy a new motherboard, ddr5 ram just for it all to be bottlenecked by their GPU
I reckon these are the last two CPUs AM4 will get. However, they will continue making AM4 CPUs as that socket will be in demand for a long while.
@@earthtaurus5515you could’ve said that about the 5600X3D or countless other AM4 processors 😂
@@italianbasegard True lol. However, given the max core count is 16 on AM5 at the moment and since the 7950X3D has some funky scheduling issues I doubt we will see a 5950X3D. Not to mention I also doubt AMD will backport 16 core chiplets to AM4 as resources are better of being spent on AM6 etc (If AMD had Nvidia's capital then it may have been possible but since they dont...). So, it stands to reason these would be the last new cpus for AM4.
@@earthtaurus5515 I wonder, reading all this talk from different sources that Intel is going through a troublesome "phase" the last few years, if AMD is actually catching up and becoming comparable in market share and size.
It would be good for us consumers, you never want a monopoly in any trade, there needs to be competition between businesses, so they strive to outperform their competitor also in price, keeping prices as low as possible without sacrificing quality or not too much of it.
@@MagiconIce Arrow lake should hopefully be somewhat competitive on desktops but it may not be competitive across the board with laptop as well. Hopefully I'm wrong about the latter. AMD is most likely keeping their x3d variants for the arrow lake launch and they'll assess the situation then.
In regards to a monopoly, of course no one other than blind fanboys/fanatics want a monopoly. These things generally happen in waves albeit very, very, very slow waves. In a few years time AMD would have hit the wall with x86_x64 ergo why they are branching into ARM. One could argue Intel may have hit that wall sooner. Remains to be seen how they re-group.
Then there is RISC V to consider as well. Both ARM and RISC V already has stiff competition albeit RISC V is not mainstream yet. Intel may end up spinning off their fabs, who knows what the future holds. Anything can happen.
I’m surprised AMD still release new AM4 CPUs. I’m eyeing that 5900XT CPU to replace my 5600X CPU
Just why, 5950X existed for years
@@Dr.WhetFarts well the good thing is they still make those cpu.
but ye, R7 5800X3D is the best gaming on that platform
the new R7 5700X3D is for value(cheaper), doesn't make it better
maybe the 5900XT will be cheaper than 5950X no idea, i don't really care about high core count cpu
I'm rockin' an AM4 board still, and I'll be honest, I'm curious about how these new AM4 chips are going to perform. If they look solid in independent testing, I might grab one and upgrade to AM5 (or 6 even, who knows?) when I can better afford it.
I’m studying engineering just to work for AMD and take down Intel. They better be competitive.
good luck friend, not many blessed w the brain to do it
Intel has been chasing AMD for years now and still couldn't catch up.
Alder Lake did on desktop and obliterated them on laptops, who buys a laptop for an AMD CPU?
I mean, the 13980HK is just a hilarious CPU that doesn't need to exist because it's extremely fast.
(13th gen and 14th gen are still basically Alder Lake+).
@@saricubra2867 Personally I wouldn't even bother with a Pay More Get Less gaming laptop, for one thing a laptop is no substitute for a 34" Ultrawide monitor
Intel is so far behind and they only fall more behind each gen. Sad.
I hope they will get competitive again in the next 5 years.
Dunno what bizarro world your living in, intel has and always will lead the junk imitation reverse engineered trash AMD products.
Side by side same spec PC comparisons for decades in real world usage and gaming prove this over and over again.
@@nipa5961same I love competition cause it’s good for the consumer!
Intel got instability issues
I feel like this is backwards, when has this shifted? Instability is why I've avoided AMD since like 2012.
@@blues3531 , I have asus z790 apex and 13900k. 13900k is shit. Only six months passed and I now I got game crashes instantly (didn't change anything in bios settings out of box)
@@blues3531 Current 13th and 14th Gen i9 processors are wildly unstable because the motherboard manufacturers pump them with too much power. There wasn't even a "default baseline" until recently.
Sooo, does this mean the 7000 series might get a little cheaper? Might be a good time to pickup a 7800x3d 👀
Very good news indeed. I got myself a ryzen 9 3900 back in dec 2020. It still pulls like a freightliner. But its getting up to that age where I usually start looking at building a new computer. Since the performance of my system is flawless, I won't need to upgrade for quite some time, but when it's time, I'll get the new 5900xt and I'll have a new breathing computer again. I love it!
I really like the Thunderbolt interface, especially on laptop. So I just sitting here, hoping that Intel catches up by having similar power and battery life.
What I like about AMD, and that is pretty stark IMO, they keep their word about the generations, a lot of people thought that AM4 was going to vanish not long after their keynote. And look, AM4 is still under us. For now, AM5 is compatible with their new CPUs, this gives consumers a trustworthy feeling. Be aware that upgrading a CPU without to change a motherboard is also a cost saving. Money you can spend on a better GPU or other parts. I hope they keep all their products kinda transparent.
YK what i'd love to see as a 5900x user? A 5900XT w 3DVCache Tech. Endgame CPU for that platform, so that I can still go for another 5 years and then switch to AM6 maybe
I would love to see where the 5800 XT falls compared to the 5800 X3D. I'm on a 2600X, and I just saw the 5800X3D drop to $285 on Amazon. I know that I'm going to get crazy uplift either way because the 2600x doesn't support SAM. I'm with you Jay on them still making Processors for old AM4 boards. I hope they keep shaming Intel with support for AM4.
To be fair, AMD has the same issues if you go with the 12 or 16 core X3D chips when it comes to gaming. It's wonky to have games prioritize the CCD with the 3D V-Cache. I've been considering going to Intel just because of the media engine on the CPU and it's benefits with video editing. However, seeing that they're ditching hyper-threading, Arrow Lake isn't looking to be all that exciting right now. Perhaps I'll go for the 9950X to replace my current 5950X and just pop an Arc A310 in one of the lower slots to take advantage of the media engine for editing.
9970X3D 16 Cores in September. Confirmed who wouldn't wait for that. And I'll wait for the RTX 5080 with 3D Cache
People using Zen 4/Ryzen 7000 CPUs suddenly wont be getting support for faster memory when they switch to 800 series of motherboards as the memory controller inside the CPUs doesn't change. Only Ryzen 9000/Zen 5 CPUs will get faster DDR5 support on both 600 and 800 series of motherboards. Its not like old days when northbridge contained the memory controller and upgrading the motherboard meant faster ram.
People be like:
Old Jay using primarily intel: "SHILLL!!!"
New Jay promoting AMD: "SHILLLL!!!"
Jay, my 7950X3D system was also having random rebooting/crashing issues. Finally found out it was caused by ASUS Armoury Crate. There is a memory leak in the program. After uninstalling it, my computer has been rock solid.
I'm actually looking at the 9950x for a home server/local llm build (hopefully with a 5090 if out by end of year). My gaming PC is set for several years still. Upgraded my old i7 6th gen with a 1080 (it is now my man-cave build and still going strong!) to a i9 13900K with a Strix 3080ti...that jump was insane! :) Rocked that 6th gen gaming system for 7 years. Plan to do the same with this one.
I am so glad to see AMD staying strong. I hope it helps push intel to get its butt in gear. we need them both pushing hard. I love having an upgradable computer. Swapping parts out. I fear ARM chips becoming the mainstream and having to buy an ARM gammer that can not be upgraded. With AMD and Intel pushing x64 we have a chance to keep the traditional desktop.
I was thinking I'd switch to the newest AMD platform. Now I'm thinking about just extending my AM4 platform.
I grabbed a 5700x3d a while back to replace my older 5600x - immediate gaming improvement.
At the time the 7k series was still a bit on the pricy side, but I'll be tempted to move up to the next gen when the 9k x3d's come out.
Given the support is going to be for several generations it seems, I can look at dropping in maybe another cpu upgrade a couple of years down the line and upgrade the gpu when needs be.
Happy days all round!
i will say i have been an AMD fan since the first gen Ryzen. mainly because i had been coming from an fx8300 out of a $300 system at the time. intel price have been bloated for the better part of 2 decades (imo). Ryzen is the BEST thing to happen to PC's in WELL past 20 years. Btw I am NOT saying Ryzen is kin but It has been the best ting to advance computers since dual core CPU's
I built my first ever PC about a week ago and i made sure that the platform is AM5. And i'm so glad i did! Because they extended support for the socket beyond 2027 so i can still upgrade my cpu in 3-4 years, as well as my GPU and all my other components get to stay. That's a great investment right there.
This new CPU from AMD is making me glad I *invested* in a 4090 Aorus Master.
AMD's new CPU series seems a nice (but not impressive) upgrade performance from the previous generation although the power efficiency could impress me way more when we will be able to test the real thing. I can't wait for the X3D variation! Now lets see what Intel has to offer to compete.
Sitting here happy with my 11700k - I will wait to see the real world results on these new CPU's. Also want to see the X3D options when those get developed - if I'm changing platforms anyway since LGA1200 is no more, I can wait.
AMD seems to be very gamer friendly. I like what i see with socket support.
excited for the 5900xt. I've currently got a 5900x and will most likely sell it to recoup some funds after getting it.
2027 is about when I can afford an AM5 platform so Ty AMD for pushing that back!
Learned my lesson: wait until the 9950x3D comes out.
I understand ppl who use their CPU as a workbench but really for gaming CPU only makes any difference if you either:
1- constantly play at lower graphical fidelity for some reason or..
2 - you've bought the most expensive GPU's on the market today.
Outside of these 2 edge cases any modern CPU even the cheaper ones will do just fine and would never bottleneck. So I rly don't get the excitement about new cpus, And don't try to sell me AI it's basically a fancy name for an on-chip Spyware at this point.
The mention of the temperature being a limit on 3D V-cache cpu's at 16:48 is incorrect. The 3D V-cache is limited by mostly voltage & some & amps. The lower TDP was to keep the voltages & amps in check. Not the temperature, the lower TDP is why there was lower max TJ-max on the cpu. Watts is voltage x amps = watts. The higher voltages & amps can fry the vertical nano structure to connect the L3 cache. Secondly you do not need high speed ram for a 3D V-cache cpu you where trying to do something that was completely unnecessary for it.
I'm very happy with my 7800x3d. Other then no over clocking.
Ouch that's kind of laying the smack down. Great for us as it gives options and force competition.
I have a Ryzen 7 2700 and it is barely used beyond 50% with modern games. I don't understand why people need these newer CPUs. I see so many people whining about things needing 32GB of RAM too and my 16GB is never used to full capacity. People are so ridiculous.
Get urself 5700x3d or cheap 5600 and u will see difference
I play 4k i often see ram usage over 20gb(helldivers2 30gb 😢)
My 5800x3d still kicking ass. But I'll probably not stray from the 3d lineup when it's time to upgrade.
I got the 5950X....pleased with the performance, and got a great deal with 50% off on retail.
Me too lol. AM 4 still has some life in it.
Unless you're building a pc every 2 to 3 years you don't really need to worry about this I build my 4790k back in 2015 and didn't upgrade to my 12700k until 2023. I know compitition is good but at the same time there's only two cpus to choose from.
Well, im waiting for the x3d chips, mainly because, they now have 2 generations of development and testing, so most likely all the problems are going to be fixed. But if not, ill just get the 9950x
I hope Intel is able to compete with all of this.
Making new CPUs for AM4 is a very unexpected announcement, now they are showing off. Intel, take some notes when it comes to platform longevity because if AMD can pull it off then so can you.
Gen 5 all around and USB4 on micro ATX - sounds like it and I hope so!
I can't wait to upgrade from my 10 year old system, still running an intel i7 5930k
4770K here.
I went from 6800K to 14700K for my last upgrade. Planning to keep this one for just as long lol.
I have been hearing "intel should be worried" since the 90s... but this is the time that AMD really takes over right?
New gen is overkill even for your standard 3d engineering stuff. I'm glad I have the option to simply buy more ram and slide in a new 5900XT.
I respect AMD for developing both CPUs and GPUs simultaneously.
13:27 the 13700k doesn’t have issues with removing power limits. It’s the 14700k and the i9 parts in 13 and 14th Gen. People are misreading those issues I think. Whatever tho. I guess this is a fanboy thing
Long live the AM4 platform...can upgrade my 2600X to 5900XT finally.
another AM4 CPU means that AM5 probably must last until DDR6 becomes standard
❤5900XT❤ freaking 16 cores 🤤🤤🤤🤤
Intel is worried about AMD Chips for years, Ryzen have change the market in CPU world upside down, and only fool would buy 13900K over 7800X3D or 7950X3D and ThreadRipper is killing Xeon Chips.
I wish AMD was as strong in GPU space as they are in the CPU space.
My last upgrade was from a 980Ti to a 7900XT, I love it. And as with all AMD GPU’s, it ages like fine wine. Don’t miss the green offerings at all. Their Radeon software is also leagues ahead of Nvidias software offering.
@@JellyLancelotTechnology doesn’t age like fine wine. If they did you would never have to upgrade because older GPU’s would be faster than new ones as that is how wine works.
My Power Color RD LE 7900xtx is amazing, Its hangs with a 4090, but RT is still NVidia's domain-for now. 4090 is not worth more than double the price for a few % faster . AMD GPUs are wonderful, don't let fanboys think otherwise. And I am NOT a fanboy, I want fast and a good value proposition.
Yes, because competition would maybe lower prices. No, because we don''t want another Intel.
Aye! That said, the 7900XTX is a really strong GPU, and after AMD got their idle power draw under control (only took a year!), and now more recently, fixed the random driver reset problems I was having (only took a year and a half!), it's a really nice GPU. You should be able to get it for less than a 4080 too.
Wdym intel should be worried ? Intel didn't have answer since ryzen 3XXX series, they already behind, so what to worry if you already behind
The average is actually 16.9% according to their graph so they are being modest by rounding down
9700x only 65w from 105w in previous generations is crazy.
I can't wait to upgrade to it from the 7700x to pair with my 4080 super
Love to see it.
@@kevincampbell989 That pairing is gonna go crazy right???
The 5700X is also 65W
I think the fact that the 7700X and 5800X were 105W but offered barely any additional performance of the refreshed 7700 and 5700X models is what's crazy. I'm glad AMD has come to their senses for this launch.
AM4 the GOAT
i “upgraded” to intel i914900k but man do i actually miss am4
Gotta love the AMD currently doesn't know what end of life is and keep dropping CPU for a "dead-end" platform. Thank you Dr. Lisa Su
Edit: To everyone who like this comments; Thank you and hope something Good happen for you or to you. Also you might want to avoid the replies.
Amd is that friend that stays with you while you are tying your shoes while the rest of friends move away without looking back.
Common Lisa Su W
@@KozureOkami888 So how did the 5800xt and 5900xt hold intel to the wall?
AMD's great CPU options don't make up for their absolute ripoffs in the GPU sector!
@@Riyozsu I love this sentiment! Although i wouldnt spend $360 on a dead end. I would be one of the kids that moved along.
Im currently hanging out with my intel i7 3820 4core HEDT processor buddy while it ties its shoes. He's an OG by tech standards, his socket is a forgotten memory to most but me, the x79 chipset.
My goal was a 10 year PC. Now HEDT is priced outside a feasible model for doing this. My processor was $440 on sale, now its $2,000 for HEDT...
What AMD is doing is great fir gamers. The fact that they are willing to keep a socket around for 10 years is incredible and makes me hope that AM5 will Get the same treatment as AM4 when and rolls out the AM6 socket. Also continueing to devope CPUs for a last gen architecture shows their commitment to long lasting support, which I hope will also be given to AM5
Yeah.
At this point, AM4 guys might have enough fuel to go for straight jump AM6. Just like AM5 to AM7.
Or is it their commitment to money? They probably had a bunch of silicon left over and binned them down to squeeze every last drop of cash out of it as possible. No, I don't blame them, that's business, and I'm not saying that's a negative thing for them to do, as it does help/benefit the consumer also. Yes, it is amazing to see a socket stick around for so long, and I will probably be one of those that jumps from AM4 to AM6 or 7, my current AM4 does everything I need it to, so no need to upgrade.
They likely didn't really develop "new" chips, but instead used previously binned chips that didn't really meet a specific spec. It's likely just a rebranding of weaker chips.
“Great *fir* gamers”? What is a *fir* ? 😂😂😂
@@Digikidthevoiceofreason they're just a different branch of gamers. We shouldn't arbor any fell thoughts of them and tree them with respect. 😁
Either way, this is great news for builders. AM4 is still a relevant platform, and AM5 is going to be supported and continues to push the cutting edge. Now, we need to see some builds with the media outlets, like you Jay.
Intel's working on a new CPU architecture but it takes time to design it so for now they are doing what they can to shore up the old I series chips till the new chips are ready for debut
They need to do something about motherboard prices
Indeed!!!!!
They are getting expensive because ddr5 is not easy to support the amount of data they need to pass through the board. That's why things are getting expensive now.
With 800 chipsets, 600 'should' start dropping in couple of weeks
bought colorful b650m last october no worries so far.
For like 99.9999% of PC enjoyers, you dont need to go beyond B650 (if you're not doing Professional-level work). I say that as someone who spent $450 on X670. Its a waste of money and the handful of extra I/O capacity is wasted.
Your move Intel. I think they'll have something very impressive with Arrow Lake later this year. I think they've had enough with the "space heater" comments. Going from 7nm to 3/2nm is gonna be a massive jump for them.
I’m waiting for the 9000X3D chips and Nvidia 5000 GPU’s and then I’ll be going all out.
Let us know how many kins u sold to afford that rtx 5069 ultra ti super (jk)
how long does it usually take for these to come out? I mean the 3D chips
@@Arch-Propagandist-Sagewill it have 8 gb of vram?
@@2bnator will release jan 2025
@@XxAtomic646xX nice, my apprenticeship starts in august, so i still got time to save up
Let's be honest here, cpus just aren't advancing as fast as they used to. Pretty much anyone who has a late gen zen 4 cpu or a 12th gen Intel or beyond will be fine for quite a looong time.
On the flip side, you can get a good CPU at discount price from Intel 13th gen or AMD Ryzen 7 7000s series.
Exactly, that's why I bought an i7-13700k instead of paying a couple hundred more for a 14700. My 3090 and 13700 should last me a lot longer than the i5-6600k I replaced. I could still play demanding games on the 6600 I just figured it was time for a major upgrade since it was holding my 3090 back.
That's because were getting closer to the limits of silicon
I assume my zen 5800x is still gonna be my am4 limit, budget wise?
@@messiahmozgus Depending on your use case, yes. That chip should last for quite a few more years tbh.
Long live AM4!
It's almost immortal now
...may its reign shall be long.
The new dark lord (sorry watch too much TLOTR)
@@snails6997 Its reign has already been very, very long.
AM4 works with a 4090 just fine. I didn't trust the AM5 first gen.
I was on the market for 5800x3D now ill have to reconsider
dont trust amd number pretty sure those 9000 gonna be worse in gaming tha the actual 70003d same happen when amd annouce 7800x3d they say was 31% faster than 13900k and end up being only 4% on avg from hardware unbox review
@@HosakaBloodWith a 16% IPC increase it will be faster than Zen 4 X3D without gimmicks.
Which processor are you using currently?
Haha, I went from a 2600 to a 5600 just recently.
@@saricubra2867 Depending on the game the regular 9000X should be on par with the 7000X3D ones in gaming, it's the 9000X3D ones which will be the proper 7000X3D successor. Those 9000X3D chips depending on the game you can most likely add another 10% to 15% performance uplift for gaming over the 9000X.
Now I realize I made a really good choice by going with AMD over Intel's CPU...
Intel only makes sense for few particular models that don't have AMD equivalents, like my i7-12700K and i5-13600K
AMD simply has better lineups.
Intel hasn't been the way to go for gaming in quite a few years.
My how the tables turn.
Intel forced AMD to run to TSMC long ago because it couldnt keep up.
Now the tide has shifted and intel needs government subsidies because it cant keep up. And is running to TSMC for help as well...
@@brandonhoffman4712 Intel actually did that back when they couldn't get 10nm working, now they've gotten all of that working and are back to making new nodes, but they're sunk costed into those TSMC wafers so they gotta use them. They actually plan on buying less TSMC wafers by 2026.
ROFL ooh really hows that
SMT is the generic term for multi-threading, not just AMD’s term. IBM also just uses SMT for its 4 or 8 thread per core POWER CPUs.
If you watch this channel enough you notice Jay just says nonsense a lot. One time he claimed SSR just flips the image upside down.
He also started messing with the bios flash buttons while a computer was running. Then it wouldn't boot and he wondered why.
Symmetrical multithreading was the term for it waaaaay back in the days of the Amiga, so 30+ years.
@@SlyNine 🤣🤦
AMD is on fire in a good way! Those 65w cpus are gonna be awesome. And that AM4 still supported with new-ish cpus is epic.
they could have gone for the "5950 non x" naming for marketing reasons but they did the opposite. i respect that
on fire is right and not in the good way
tbh that 5.5 ghz 8 cores at 65w is beyond insane supposedly par w 14700k
so, if you don't like asus anymore, and, I've had terrible luck with my current asrock, what would you go to for a good solid board on AMD? (currently have a 5950X and looking to bump up to 8950X or 9950X now I guess....
That’s wild.
An old platform with a updated cpu can compete head to head with intel last gen platform and cpu
the 5800x3d from that gen still beats the current intel CPUs for gaming, my 5950x still trades blows with the 13/14th gen i9s.... the limited p cores isn't always the best option
@@Denbot.Gaminguntil you overclock the i9s which is probably the point of anyone getting those cpus right now
@@bygalaxy115 have you not seen the news... you shouldn't really be overclocking them, intel actually want you to run them lower than stock until they get a fix out.
Core degradation issue, degrading cores within weeks of use under any load
@@Denbot.Gaming if you know what are you doing and not just increasing the speeds to 6ghz and let it burn then you are okay
@@bygalaxy115 get you head out of the blue ring...
intel have officially released a statement, and by the way the 13900ks is 6Ghz out of the box, but the vid table is all wrong, it set to give the CPU way too much voltage.
once its degraded the cores need more voltage to maintain stability, the more degraded it becomes the more voltage it needs... leading to higher temps.
for example, a system I setup last Feb (2023) would run CPU Profile at stock 6ghz and maintain a temp under 50°C, just over 12 months later, its now 99°C and thermal throttling down to 5.2Ghz, and the random system crashes are ridiculous, they started around 4 months post build.
I've probably been doing this longer than you've been out of nappies
the specs have not changed one bit from the 7000 series to the 9000's other than Zen 4 Architecture to Zen 5. Glad I went ahead and got the 7950X a year ago. No buyers remorse here.
A 16 Core, 32 Thread CPU would be epic to have. However. I like my 5800X3D, and its 96MB of Cache.
🤞 2026 5950x3D
And beyond !
Crysis was my most played game and my 12700K reaches the same framerates but only with 25MB of cache instead of 96MB. I love the extra 4 cores for streaming and it bought it for 330 USD new.
Sad that intel will abandon monolithic sillicon and they will get watered down high latency low IPC chiplet garbage.
games dont even use all those cores anyway so its wasted money for a gaming rig
@@RealGreyGhost I'm sure he's got other uses as well but yea it striked me a bit too. People forget that Crysis is literally Windows XP era that can be maxed out on a good Core 2 Duo with capable graphics.
Only if my flight simulators would use all them cores. I felt dirty buying a mid-range 5800X3D
Well damn, talk about being quick!
That’s what I’m sayin!
It's funny how Intel does a refresh and everybody attacks them. AMD Does it and everybody praises them and gets all excited 🤷♂️ lol
Just so we're clear. I really want to try out the new A. M DCP u, so I am not saying that I dislike aimed. Or that I just like intel. I am just simply pointing out a funny fact 😂
I'm glad I bought my AM5 platform on Black Friday. My MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk will be good for a long while. Dropping a new CPU into my board in 3 years and extending the life of my computer will be great.
Exactly!
I got a B650 Tomohawk last year as well (7700x) thinking at the end of 2025 getting the latest and greatest CPU. Now I have even more time to decide if and when to upgrade.
i built my computer back in like 2019 or 2020 im about to drop that 5900xt in it as soon as it drop!!!!
This is what I expected from Intel when they replaced the CEO with an engineer. I really hope something like this is in their pipeline. I know they cannot just repeat what they did with the Core2Duo because they have no mobile chip to convert especially because AMD already matching or beating them in laptops, but they need to do something. AMD jumped up power and heat with the Ryzen 7000, but continue to drop power use and heat every gen which Intel hasn't done any generation to compete. They overclock it similar to Pentium Xtreme 4 when they failed to compete. I want that old innovative Intel back and I hope they have something hidden.
This is why competition is great
Can’t wait to see what Intel has in stock
6ghz 300w CPU.
More like 500w i9 15900k
It's hilarious the 14900KS guzzles more power than most GPUs
Intel oven™
6.3GHz "15th gen" at 450W.
with AMD crossgeneration support AMD should put in to mandatory all motherboard manufacturers to have built in bios flash option without needing to have CPU installed.
some have but really its scary to flash wo screen lol
I am maintaining my admiration of AMD from when they first brought out the dual core chip. I built a system for a friend with a mirrored RAID and it was so visibly faster and smoother that I never considered a single core chip again. Being able to increase IPC without having a hotplate CPU with a ridiculous TDP is also a huge winner for me. Bringing out new chips for AM4 is a master stroke. I would consider updating my Ryzen 5 3600X CPU and that is one of the advantages of AM4 longevity vs the 6 month life of Intel sockets. Nobody wants something that will be outdated when they want to upgrade to a better chip 2 years down the track when it becomes affordable only to find nothing available. AM4 is still worthwhile if you want a good system vs bleeding edge and a long life for lower powered budget jobs like NAS boxes etc. Long live AM4!
I'm still rocking an 1800x with no issues. My 1080ti is showing it's age but I can play the games I like at the settings I don't mind so, no new computer for me.
Longevity FTW. Nice! Man, when you finally upgrade it's going to be awesome.
My nephew is still using the computer I originally built for his father in 2019 which has a Ryzen 1600 on a ASRock B450 board. This past Xmas I got him an RX 6650XT to upgrade him from my old R9 Fury he was using. The new graphics card alone helped boost his fps more. Eventually some extra ram will help him out when it comes to editing his videos. Luckily he doesn't want anything new unless he knows he'll get a performance gain that'll help his productivity. Shiny lights and fancy colors aren't his thing, he goes for functionality. :)
Don't worry.. when the time comes, just get a 5800X3D and you are set. No need to buy lots of new stuffs.
@@Slane583 I swear RGB lighting and software is the cause of 50% of gaming problems. I see it all the time on Steam forums where tons of people are having problems with new game like Horizon Forbidden West or Ghost of Tsushima where I have none of their problems because I purposely built this system to be RGB free. I even got a solid side case instead of windowed because after building PCs on the x86/X64 platform for the last 36 years I long ago stopped being fascinated with what the inside of a PC looks like. I'm still on the Windows 10 install from when the PC was new in July 2020 and it's stable as a rock because I don't do all the stupid tweaks many of which haven't been relevant since Windows XP such as manually setting the Page File size because as long as you have enough free drive space Windows will manage it just fine even with modded Skyrim wanting as much as 48 GB Windows will parcel it out just fine
@@prdx8543 That's what I'd like to do with my 3700X in my second system. I'd like to replace it with a 5700X3D. I built that out of all of the old parts from my main system. I'd like to give the 3700X to my nephew eventually to make his computer better. :)
My next build was already decided to be all team red because they're producing things that I want. Intel and Nvidia feel like they've just been in cruise control and thinking people won't go elsewhere just because of the name on the box.
people buy nvidia because it's simply more capable hardware for people who need results. intel though, i can't imagine why anybody would buy any intel chips these days when amd is getting 98% of the performance with 1/3 the power and 1/2 the cooling required
I tried this route. Regretted my 7900xtx big time after one week of owning. The stuttering was insane compared to my 3080ti. I don't get it but the way AMD handles shaders causes so much stuttering.
You can disable anything and everything in the bios and adrenaline software to help it some but overall just an unpleasant experience.
Good luck to you if you do go all red.
@@Kevin-gf4im I've not observed any stuttering with mine after nearly a year of ownership. I had the high idle power issue for a single driver release but it got patched within a week. Other than that it's been a rock solid system. One thing about the AMD shader thing is that they compile shaders the first time around on the fly, while Nvidia will do it in the background when the game isn't running if I remember correctly. Both have pros and cons but the Nvidia approach does generally stutter less on the initial few minutes of a new game. After that both should be cached and behave the same.
I still maintain Asux is why you had so many issues with your AMD rig.
You might be onto something there.
我也这么觉得
my asus b650e-f is perfect. managed to overclock my amd 7600x to 5.65ghz all core and my ram from 6000cl30 to 6400cl30 1:1 mode.
Not true I never had problems with AMD on an Asus motherboard.
I am on my 4th Asus board in 6 months... Prime b550m broke every time after any Windows update... Bought a Asrock board instead, same shit, but this time iz came dead... Bad luck for me, not blaming AMD for IT!!!!!!
AMD keynote in 2021 showed there focus was not just gaming, this launch just backs those claims - BETTER performance for less watts, PCIe gen 5 accorss all I/O in their new motherboards is a complete win! finally there will justifcations for currenty motherboard prices and still supporting people running AM4. Truely shows they believe in there tech and want it everywhere.
It's gonna be interesting to see how the 9900x runs. The 7900x had a 170w top and the 9900x now has a 120w tdp
Sounds like PC's are reverse trending on the space heater front!
Mine literally has a radiator larger than my cars heater. When it runs so does the cold.
@brandonhoffman4712 I got fairly lucky silicon lottery wise with my 7900x. During winter it'll idle around 40c and in summer around 43c just on a 420mm aio. So similar or better performance but with 50 watts less tdp....I won't complain at all. Well I'll complain when Asus drops the x870e extreme board and decides they're gonna charge 2k for it this time around.
Mine is lovely does 4.6GHz all cores, all day long. I still getting the 9950X. @@HalfUnder
TDP means nothing. Actual power usage is more important.
10:00 To be fair, 14 gen is just binned 13th gen so you can't really say they used the socket for 3 generations when one of those generations is exactly the same but with slightly higher clock speeds.
And 13th gen was a basic clock speed increase. Frankly it shouldn’t be considered more than a one gen socket. Even saying a 1.5 gen socket is way too generous.
This is why I went with a 7600X a year ago. AMD has proven that they keep a platform around for a long time, and I'm starting to get to the point where (for some video content) I would want to upgrade my CPU to a Ryzen 7 or 9 class of a newer gen and upgrade the cooler but have the option of keeping the motherboard for a transition period.
PCI-E Gen 5 is a waste of time right now.. it's just adding extra expense to the cost of motherboards without actual real world benefit for your avg user. GPU's have only in the last couple of years reached the saturation point of Gen 3 on the higher end... Mid range cards are still not maxing it out... It's going to be years before they need it.
As for NVME drives... again, it's just going to push prices up for very little in the way of real world benefit. I built a system with a gen 4 NVME in 2020... windows loads from POST to login at the 8-9s mark... But my gen 3 NVME on my other systems only take 11-12s. Very few people are transferring massive files from one gen 5 to another gen 5 to get the most out of transfer speeds... and they're so damn expensive already.
If they gave us 8TB or larger gen 3 NVME drives at reasonable prices... I'd be buying them... I just want reasonable priced SATA SSD's with large capacities for my mediaserver to replace the HDD's I have to use because no such SSD's exist in the 8TB+ ranges.
I upgraded my AM4 to a 5800X3d a couple of years ago and added a 6900XT GPU around the same time as prices had dropped and a 6900XT could be had for the price a used 5700XT was selling for a few months earlier. I see no reason to upgrade... another GPU upgrade maybe in 25 or 26... the X3D is holding it's own nicely... and then look at a new build perhaps sometime in 26. What ever I build... I'd be looking for a 100% IPC improvement over the X3D minimum and I'd like to drop to a cheaper GPU whilst still getting at least a 50% bump in performance.
14th gen is just 13th gen with 200 Mhz more clock, so cheers for keeping the same socket Intel :D
its not, the 12 and 13 are
14-16 gen use full 10nm, and 17 so on 7nm which will be used on upcoming core ultra desktop
so yeah that core ultra is cpu from the future