How The Nose Influences Face Shape | What Make A Face Attractive Ep. 3
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I feel like men can get away with certain noses alot more than women
Ethan Reyes true
true
Yeah the same way women can get away more with certain jawlines that men can’t, there’s slight give n takes with each facial feature that curtain genders can have wiggle room with.
Maybe, but women can get away with terrible jawlines ( and appearence in general) that would cause a male to become incel.
definitely lol no one cares what their noses look like 🤣 all attractive men have huge noses.
I love it when people use math and science to explain why I'm not getting laid
lmfao same
Max has met a total of 2000 girls in his life. If Max has been friendzoned 2000 times and y = number of girlfriends he's ever had, solve for y using Pythagoras' Theorem.
_just kidding, it's solved by using Trigonometry, whereby x = cos(y) -1 = 0_
Nate you must be really bored..
@@olobzjr Max has had 6.283... girlfriends?
@@sasha6454 ah, an intellectual
*_havard would like to know your location_*
Ok, let's see how ugly I really am.
Usui Takumi same
Well, you have no nose at all, so...
pretty ugly
this channel is suicide fuel
@@yruheregoaway i know, i was being facetious
Asian netizens don't seem to know that the fashion industry wants striking faces, not neccesarily pretty ones. The face asian people deemed beautiful would be too plain for high fashion, it what the fashion industry call "commercial beauty" rather than high fashion beauty. Fashion industry do tend to like poc models who have extreme features of their ethnicity/race because it's seen as very "exotic".
Nah, they aren't asking for a caucasian looking asian. The model doesn't look like a typical chinese person too, she's very unique looking.
Na Na it’s because regular beauty can easily be made with some surgery’s, or simple massages. So now the want for rare is even katger
Na Na totally agree
All those models model in high fashion, at 7:38. They walked the VS fashion show and modelled numerous times in high fashion.
“High fashion” doesn’t necessarily require the model to have unearthly or uncommon features. It may be a bonus to their look, but it’s not required in the field of “high fashion” modelling. Having a rare look is either a break it or make it sort of deal. Some companies look for “exotic” looks, but not as their entire lineup of models. They’re outliers among the conventionally beautiful women. Also, I don’t think that the ideal of Chinese beauty would be too plain for Vogue or other companies..
Yea, exactly. Like Asian people like the Chinese always think the west is trying to promote Asians as ugly or weird looking. Yet the West use Asian models that fit Asian beauty standards all the time in commerical modeling, like for Victoria's Secret. It'e the high fashion brands that love models to have strange and unique faces. The west loves unique and one of a kind stuff in general. As for Vogue, I would say they like to position themselves in the market as the commerical form of high fashion. Their target is definitely more so the everyday consumer. They'll use more commercial looking models and very unique high fashion models to draw in the general western public who tend to love inclusivity of all types of looking people. Plus they'll have actors, singers and other celebrities all the time.
so basically, attractiveness all comes down to having a well defined jaw/maxilla and good eye area assuming everything else is average or better?
berba silk you are probably considered attractive to the vast majority of people.
no and a good nose makes a huge difference
Yup you got it. Eye area and jaw area are the hallmarks of an attractive face. Focus on these two areas only.
I actually have all of those, but my nostrils are just too big. That's literally it. the rest of my nose I love, but for some reason my NOSTRILS are the big one.
I also have pretty big lips for a guy, but I still think that my nostrils is the thing that ruins my entire face. I hate it :( and I can't get surgery because if my parents find out I'm DEAD. Even if I'm an adult.
@@mouses_HK big lips aren’t a bad thing?
I hate my nose (it’s huge, angular, hooked, asymmetrical) yet I’m still watching this knowing I’ll feel ugly lmao
P E hell yeah 😔🤟
I feel you!! Mine is ugly and a friend once asked me when I broke my nose 😭
5:20 does it looks like that? If it is like that i would like you to know that I find those characteristics very attractive.
Mine crooked i'll feel like gangsta because Caesar had same
Sammeeee I'm in the nose bump, large nostril with a bum tip gang
I used to have a specific view on what a pretty nose should look like until Rihanna came to the picture. Not only is she already conventionally goodlooking, she also has an incredibly versatile face. Other conventionally goodlooking people can't even be versatile but she can. Rihanna effortlessly pull off various different styles with her face and she has a wide nose, relatively big and a very low nose bridge. It's everything opposite to what I used to think a "pretty" nose should look like and opposite to a lot of beauty standards.
There isn't a pretty nose, it all depends on how it fits with your other features and the overall harmony it brings to the face. Rihanna's nose is well proportioned to her long-ish face, her wide set eyes and it is what gives her that youthful quality. If it was smaller, more pointy and taller, her face would likely look longer, her face would look more harsh or basic and there wouldn't be much that could balance out her wide set eyes. She also has a visible nose tip and its still upturned for a pretty wide low nose.
I just think she's a fantastic example lol.
@Green Giant it's not 2009 anymore weirdo
I agree. I have a very similar wide, short, rounded and upturned nose like riri and I used to be so insecure about it. I dreamed of getting a rhinoplasty when I turned 18, but riri showed me that there is nothing wrong with my nose. I cannot see myself with a small nose. I once edited my nose to look smaller just to see what happened. It made my face look so disproportionate. My big lips looked swollen. My eyes looked crossed and my face became too wide. My nose really balanced out my face. I wouldn't change it for the world.
I personally don't find her nose attractive at all, but the rest of her face is very beautiful, and for some reason everything, including her nose, looks nice, in harmony.
@Green Giant 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Looks like the people saying Rihanna looks good haven't watched/comprehended a single video on this channel
@Average Commenter beauty IS Eurocentric/Caucasian, I'm not saying Europeans are 10 while others are 0, it's all a spectrum and many people are mixed nowdays but it's just hardwired in our brain to prefer some certain characteristics over others which is exactly what this channel talks about, otherwise most of the models would be from Africa
I don’t know why every model from a nonwhite country has to represent the entirety of the country she is from. I don’t think any one model from America has to represent the whole of the American people. It seems kind of objectifying really, like she is Chinese & Asian first and a person second. Most models do not have 'pretty' faces like newscasters and sorority girls do, they have interesting faces made more interesting by their super thin bodies. If they want one vaguely pretty girl to represent the whole of their country they should just use that facemorph and put that on the cover of their magazines. Almost devoid of uniqueness or interest.
No, I'd say models are definitely pretty, their faces are interesting and defined. Also I feel like news casters be drenched in make-up
Eh, most models look better than news casters and everyday hoes
Yeah but the particular model in the video is like way way extreme. Almost nobody looks like that. They can find unique, but at what point does uniqueness just turn to chasing after something that doesn’t exist? I’ve seen many interesting looking model, but they all stunned me with their looks. I’m sorry but this girl doesn’t. It just looks like they got lost when trying to find the most unique person they could.
Well the issue is she's not even close.
Joe A. Yes, the least to require in my book is proportional features of the face. People are drawn to symmetrical features.
im sorry. i dont really agree that the vogue chinese model was criticized bc she wasn't "caucasian enough". that was not why chinese people were upset by her casting. it is because vogue glorifies the stereotype of asians. they constantly pick models with the most stereotypical "asian" features. they are upset because they want a representation of a chinese woman who looks like what the average chinese woman looks like- not what the western idea of asian is. yes it is rude for others to comment that the model is ugly, because she is not. but at the same time, high-fashion has always played into the stereotype of chinese/asian women looking suuuppper "ethnic" despite not being the reality. for vogue to constantly place women who are stereotypically "asian looking" plays into the western interpretation of asians as a whole
Wtf ate you even talking about. What is a "super ethic Chinese woman"? They are "ethnic", that's a whole other RACE of people lol go away
wj there’s black/darkskinned Chinese and there’s white/yellowskinned Chinese. The Chinese don’t want darkskinned Chinese to be the standard of what Asians look like
@Tara Lang Of course Vogue doesn't want the "average classical Chinese beauty" on their covers, that's not striking/evocative/"exotic" enough for Western-centric high fashion. But think about it: if China owned a high fashion publication that was more globally prestigious than Vogue, they also wouldn't want the "average classical Caucasian beauty" on their US or UK covers either. If China only wanted to put the most stereotypically "ethnic" white women on the cover, and they all looked like Eleanor Roosevelt or Lena Dunham, would you still be thinking, "wow, China REALLY knows high fashion, no wonder they only put weird/fascinating/interesting-looking white faces like Eleanor Roosevelt's on their magazine covers!" And that's where Chinese netizens are giving the side-eye.
Tara Lang Why is the most famous vogue model Cindy Crawford instead of Sarah Jessica Parker? Clearly the latter is more weird, fascinating, and interesting looking lmao so I guess it’s classic beauty for whites but weird for ethnic people!
Yes! As an Asian lady I totally agree with you
i literally love this series so much and i’m not into beauty or posting on instagram but knowing what traits make people feel certain ways is incredibly helpful when drawing!!!
@majestic movement same lol
Pls do a video on Megan Fox, it is interesting how at one point she became the pinnacle of beauty
Nilsia Conceição I personally don’t view her as beautiful which is unusual
literally, everyone was talking about her in elementary school when transformers came out.
I sugested this topic cus i remember there was this campaign? (i think, something of that nature, circa 2010) dedicated on boycotting Megan Fox due to her beauty, sex appeal, ..
i just find it interesting lol on how once the media couldnt function with her pressence
@@nastynate434 True
@@ladyfoxwf1075 she was type-casted as the hot girl her entire career, and imo she was the embodiment of ideal western beauty standard of 2000s (slim, tan, .. as of her performance in the transformers series)
if I had a megaphone loud enough for all kids in the world to hear, i would tell them not to mouth breath
True, mew forever and from young. Fuck, it sucks to be late.
why?
Weird Sock does mewing really work? I wanna try it lmao
@@babybatxo47 It's simple. Mouth breathing over time makes your chin recede and prevents forward growth of the lower jaw, making your face have a "melting" appearance.
krazyfilmer123 woahhh 🤯
Frontview of my nose:"you actually look good,you know."
Sideview of my nose:"Are you a camel?"
I’m the opposite lol. But either way looks ugly
Im the opposite lmao
I look good from the side but my tip is bulbous😩
@SQUIDWARD I just finished my 4th month of mewing/nose breathing 24/7 and it's been helping my case a lot, Give it a try maybe.
@@Akash-hu3vb do you have a bumpy nose?
Liu Yifei is considered one of China’s top beauties. She also has “typical” Chinese features such as almond shaped eyes and a button nose. I agree that mostly everyone is affected by the European standard of beauty, but the Chinese model that you featured doesn’t really seem to fit into any country’s beauty standard.
Liu Yifei is white as a ghost and has a hooked nose. Not at all "typical"
By the way, no one claimed this model is a beauty standard, let her be already. She's just a model, she doesn't have to represent the entirety of China
@@QOVESStudio Duuuude that's not what you were saying in your video, though :/ You said that Chinese netizens are complaining that western-celebrated Asian models don't look "white enough," when in fact this OP just rightfully pointed out that the most acclaimed "classical" beauties in China (like actress Liu Yifei) do NOT have "white" features, but instead have very traditional Chinese features. YES, Chinese people 100% struggle with internalized racism (thanks to centuries of the same Western imperialism that also perpetuates anti-Blackness) but it's such a condescending, racist, and unsupported claim that "the Chinese" as a society ONLY value white features, when in fact the women considered most "classically beautiful" in China have completely Asian features. It's also really annoying that you'd choose to use such a bad example to criticize "teh Chin3se" for sometimes (even often!) pedestalizing white-exclusive or mostly-limited-to-white features. Also, no need to sneer at Chinese netizens for worshipping European features, especially since your example is hardly proof of it. European-centric beauty standards aren't something every baby is born with, it's THE most harmless byproduct of Western imperialism and subjugation of non-white peoples starting in 1492...the worse ones being nations stuck serving the West as massive sweatshop farms and plantations full of cheap, disposable labor, IF they're not being sanctioned, occupied, and drone-bombed to death.
@@berbasilk5906 I'm really glad to see commentary from another non-white person who's also interested in what features/faces are considered beautiful! Adding on to your speculation that people (whether in India or the West) seem to find you prettier because you might have features that are mostly limited to European faces, I've also seen a form of internalized racism (whether anti-Black or anti-Asian) where these non-white groups consider ALL classically beautiful people (symmetrical noses/faces, aligned non-recessed jaws, shapely rounded foreheads for women, etc) to be "white-looking," regardless of ethnicity. I think this happens when people internalize the myth that the most beautiful people in the world are ALL white, with only a few rare exceptions, thanks to the global association of whiteness/Westernness/Europeanness with wealth and prestige. I can give lots of evidence to show this: classically good-looking East Asian celebrities are often praised by interviewers/fans for "looking like a Westerner" when a lot of them have 100% Asian features...they're just arranged in a way that satisfies universal symmetry/alignment/ratio standards of beauty. But white-worship doesn't JUST cause non-white people to value mostly-limited-to-European features over their own features. It can also cause people to think that ALL classically beautiful people "look white," even if they absolutely don't. It's not like every non-white ethnicity is made up of its beautiful whiter-looking people and average "ethnic-looking" people. I'd be suspicious when people compliment you for "looking white" if you think you look unmistakably and 100% Indian, but are just pretty. YES, it's possible that you're celebrated for having more ambiguously white features, but it's equally likely that in our Western-imperialism-dominated world, people struggle to imagine that non-white people can even be classically beautiful in the way they know white people can.
@@SmileRainbow12 I don't think you picked up on the sarcasm in his voice when he said that. He's mocking the people who tell him that he only focuses on "eurocentric" beauty standards because this model is what Westerners think "Asians" look like while the Chinese themselves were outraged by it because that's clearly not how Asians look.
Damn it feels nice to look exactly like the "unattractive" side lmao
@majestic movement I watch anime and guys constantly hit on me, so anime doesn't have anything to do with appearence.
@majestic movement please stop I have secondhand embarrassment
@@Pollicina_db lmaooooooo
@majestic movement the fuck u on yo
@majestic movement i dont even watch anime but go off i guess
“Chinese citizens are getting upset for not choosing Caucasian enough Chinese looking model”. I think you’re not reading in between the lines correctly. What a lot of these Chinese citizens are saying is that Vogue is choosing conventionally attractive Caucasian models, but choosing unconventionally attractive Chinese models. In your other episodes, you have shown us how a lot of physical features are universally agreed upon as attractive. So of course, many Chinese citizens would be outraged that Vogue chooses yet again another unconventional looking model.
Savanna Mist but do you realise that a coventionally attractive asian person is going to have more eurocentric features? People considered the model 'unattractive' because she lacked eurocentric beauty features.
smooshybeann02 like he said in previous episodes, there are physical features that are universally found as attractive. To say that Asian people look for Eurocentric features is very shortsighted and not taking account of this statement. If there are features that are considered UNIVERSALLY attractive, then it doesn’t just apply to just European standard of beauty. All of race find these traits as attractive, so no, Asian people are not following Eurocentric beauty
But the thing is Caucasian features are considered conventionally attractive and how do you expect Americans not to look Caucasian. I know American is very diverse but still a stereotype American is considered blonde and blue eyed, Irish with red hairs and freckles, Indians with brown skin and black hairs. So ofcourse, people criticizing that model are assumed to want European features because they themselves cannot accept their country's most common occurring feature.
Arya Stark So you are saying that the model herself is a stereotypical Chinese? If you search up the average face of a Chinese person through millions of photos of Chinese people put upon one another, you’ll see what a stereotypical image of a chinese person look like. The model herself is not unattractive, but her pupillary distance is not a “common occurring” feature
Savanna Mist Well it must just be a coincidence that all of these 'universal beauty standards' are more commonly found in the average white person than the average asian person.
I didn't interpret the comments of Chinese citizens as them being upset for Vogue not choosing a Western-looking model, but rather a model with more universal or classic beauty, which you have mentioned all cultures have. There are plenty of Asian-looking models who are more traditionally beautiful, without looking Western.
I used to not like my nose, but it's one of the things that makes me look 10 years younger and the rest of my face is pretty on point, so I'm pretty happy with it now.
I never look at replies lol your username LMAO
how does your nose make you look younger? just curious
I would guess it to be a cute button nose, maybe?
I hate my nose too and people always say that I look way younger than I’m and really cute and innocent. I’m 19 and some people legit say that they tought I was 14 or even 12 (wtf), and this made me think that maybe is my nose what makes me look younger and i will be grateful for that in 10 years or so xd
@@MiLe-ql9ol I'm also 19 and people aLSO think I'm 14 and I ALSO STAN LOONA GIRL
What do we learn from this kids ?
No matter what you nose /jae looks like at this point of your life ,focus on having clear skin /healthy looking overall appearance
And remember beauty is never defined by a single feature
Even if you don't like your nose , there is always a way to make it work for you
I don't think they're criticising the model for not looking "caucasian enough". They're upset that Vogue always picks conventionally attractive white models but chose a conventionally unattractive Chinese model. Asian people get barely enough representation in the media as is, so they're not happy that the one model Vogue chooses perpetuates a bunch of unrealistic stereotypes rather than looking like an average (well obviously very above average) Asian person.
She's beautiful in an ethereal, other-worldly way, but she clearly does not fit any classic convention of beauty.
Reality check needed. I live in East Asia and have never seen a face like that, even in the countryside where people do not get plastic surgery.
Whether or not eurocentricism exists when it comes to beauty standards, anyone who's seen actual humans in Asia can tell that this model does not represent the average Asian girl at all. That is the reason for the reactions from Chinese people.
@Jessica Hello Never said there is anything wrong with looking like that. As you have stated, it's a unique face, meaning that it in no way represents the average facial proportions in the region.
Merve Beauty All models dont represent avarage people anyways I don’t speak for Chinese only but for all country, like for example Kendall Jenner doesnt représent all Américains
Yeahhhh the thing with high fashion models is that they usually look VERY unique, that's why they are chosen, it makes people look twice. High fashion models tend to look like aliens no matter what race they are. They do this shit with white models too, there are some super odd looking scavdanavian and German models out there lemme tell you! Usually with crazy bone structure and super far-appart eyes and they sure as hell don't represent eurocentric beauty ideals.
@@KaylaNoelle1 I agree that it's not about eurocentricism. High fashion does adhere to features that they assume people covet like height and a very slim body, but tend to go for an unusual face for the "ethereal factor". The people who reacted wanted to see themselves being accurately represented in a Western fashion magazine, while the model looks very unique. Whether they are right about reacting that way is not my place to judge :)
You’re observation doesn’t dictate what is and what isn’t the standard. That’s just absurd to think this.
Monolids were deemed as beautiful in ancient china. Every ancient Chinese portrait of women had monolids, the 4 beauties of china were all also depicted with monolids. If u had double eyelids it meant that u had “barbarian” genes of the Mongolians and that was frowned upon as the chinese and Mongolians didn’t really get along, pretty sure back then everyone in china only had monolids. And white skin? It was a symbol of the upperclass as they didn’t need to go outside to do labour. Ok thats the end of my history lesson.
I’ve replied to a comment abt this but historically chinese beauty standards were not like they are now before westerners came to china, at least ancient china that is
Im chinese and My parents, cousins and grandparents all have double eyelids tho, alot of people in china have double eyelids too.
Coming from a mongolian, double eyelids i feel like they come from russia. Most central asians have monolids and ofc mongolia is literally in the centre of asia and people with natural double eyelids are pretty rare in mongolia lmao. Tbh i dont understand when u say double eyelids are mongolian genes, coz if you look at historical pictures you'll see none. Im not offended by you calling double eyelids n all that considered as "barbarian" mongolian genes, its just i wish you'd do a bit more research before you comment anything tbh.
I think monolids look awesome, especially among women and young kids. 😍 The kids always look like cute little dolls to me.
Angela Sekar yesss they look kyutt
I think the double eye lid gene comes from Middle East when Xiong Nu, which later on disappeared in Chinese history but many say they moved to Hungary, fought with China a lot and many inter-racial marriage happened with hope to create peace
The Chinese model's eyes are a very much unique (farther apart), so I can understand why those Chinese would leave those comments. She's cute, but strange
i think she's gorgeous, i only clicked on the video bc of the thumbnail
@@sia.offline Yeah, looking again after a long while, she's not that bad. Her features are Asian in the extreme, and like the video author said, those angry netizens want to be represented by models with Euro style looks and a dash of Asian-ness.
@@mahdiyussuf9804 i get what they mean bc she doesn't really represent the Chinese population, but neither does a model with caucasian features like a tall nose and big eyes
@@sia.offline True init! Anywho, there's more important things to worry about these days. Oh and EID MUBARAK 🎉
@@mahdiyussuf9804 awww Eid Mubarak to you too!! 🤗
I really like this series. It’s like beauty is complex but simple at the same time. It also makes me realize that most of the stuff that drives women crazy about what they think men want is more driven by business than anything else.
I know this may seem a little off topic, but these video's have helped me develop my portrait drawing and character design as well as programming facial recognition algorithms more in a week time than years of drawing classes have ever done. We all know the (kind of eurocentric) golden ratio's for a face, but actually seeing in what way a face can DEVIATE from those standards is extremely informative and helpful. The features don't even have to match completely, the deviation from the norm is usually all our brain needs to recognise a face!
Idk, that Chinese Vogue model doesn't even look like a Chinese person to be honest, I can understand their outrage at why Vogue didn't choose a model that looks closer to what a beautiful Chinese person actually looks like. Then again, modeling is necessarily about the prettiest face as it is the most attention-grabbing or memorable one.
Joshua Fuhrman they should have chosen a chinese model mixed with white/caucasian genes
you should had ended your comment at "idk."
Joshua Fuhrman Exactly. She doesn’t represent Chinese beauty whatsoever. Honestly, she is universally “ugly” as the previous videos have said with the far-set eyes. She wouldn’t benefit Chinese people as he said in the video; she does the opposite.
Seems pretty obvious they're trying to redefine what we view as beautiful, so choosing conventionally attractive people would just defeat the purpose.
I personally think she's very pretty, and her face is one I'd enjoy seeing in its uniqueness
She does look Chinese dummy.
I will go as far as looks is one of the main indicators on how you will be treated in life. It's so great how we are now talking about how important looks are because they are.
ty y agreed 😌
Yes!
Big nose gang where ya at?🙋🏾♀️
I have a crooked nose and teeth, but that doesnt stop me from being handsome
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Yes, a big nose is not always a problem. My mother has a really big nose but she has this incredible face structure that makes you forget about it, kind like Stacy London or a young Anjelica huston.
Please don’t ever end this series! My favourite series on the Internet!
I’ve always seen universally beautiful asian models in vogue especially Liu Wen and Sui He. I’ve also seen some “odd” looking white models, the fashion industry likes extremes rather it be close to perfection beauty or very unconventional unique beauty
I’m loving this series so much, thank you!!
This serie is the best you have made!!
What an underrated channel, you're about to blow up with this content.
Every time a video of yours ends, I feel the need to keep watching... great work! I would appreciate longer videos is what I am saying, only if the subject allows it.
I'm crying omg one of the unattractive morphs at 5:40 looks like me wtf 😭😂 maybe I need to try this mewing thing and get a better jawline lmao
Lmaoo same :DD now I'm just sitting here like "well fuck"
i do all mewing techniques and honestly they have zero effect on my jaw 🤷🏻♀️
Spooky Spooky I been mewing for nearly a year now and it honestly makes a difference. People thought I lost weight but nope the scales the same and my activity level is non existent lol
Same been mewing for 5 months nd i feel my apparence changed got wider face with strong jaw but still ugly :'(
Amv for you I’ve been mewing for a month but I’m not sure if I’m doing it right should the tongue go straight up to the “roof” or just behind the upper teeth. I’m doing it at the roof and I’m getting a lot of saliva between the tongue and roof which is making me lose the mewing position and then having to reset every minute or so
honestly i freaking love that chinese vogue model and i think being upset about her 'unnusual beauty' is really mean. i'd be really happy if i looked like that tbh
i know right people are getting mad just because shes not the beauty they like, nothing more. and her self esteem must be so low now.
She looks like one of those luxurious, alien-looking Popovy Sisters Dolls. And I always picture mermaids to look like them, that's why I'm so happy with the actress casted as Ariel lol.
Ikr she's beautiful
I am an Aesthetics and Plastic Surgery nurse and your videos are so interesting and helpful!!
I don’t like my nose but never been told anything negative about it.
I have a big nose that perfectly fits my face, and makes me look cuter and approachable
Everyone is getting hung up on beauty/ feeling ugly. But he’s trying to teach us about the “science of beauty”. Let’s just appreciate that.
This video was my greatest fear, considering HOW OBSESSED I'VE ALWAYS BEEN WITH THE NOSE :3
I agree with some of what you said and I don’t agree with the rest. For instance the fashion industry also does this to blacks where they pick a very exotic looking black woman, that most of us don’t find attractive and hold that person up to be the standard of African beauty. They will pick the most conventional beautiful European faces but with other ethnicities they pick a weird and unusual looking person to represent the whole race. It’s not about ethnic people looking for the most European versions of themselves, it’s just that most ethnic people do not look like the people the fashion industry choose to pick up and represent, and not in a good way
No one is looking at a model and being like "yes, this is what all European/asain/black people look like".
Models are not meant to look average, they are meant to look unusually pretty to capture your attention. And I have never seen a European person(irl) look even close to what a European model typically looks like.
Also they're are SO MANY beautiful black and asain models out there who most people find attractive, so that point doesnt really stand.
m o c h a facts
Sorry but they pick hella weird looking caucasian models, you just dont notice it because you dont focus on it as much as you focus on girls you think should "represent" you
audine2007 tf is this bs? A model in high fashion is not picked to "represent" their entire ethnicity. I don't understand why you need someone to represent your ethnicity soo bad. No one person's look can represent the entire nation/ethnicity. The average person in any ethnicity looks NOTHING like the models in high fashion. Most women are not as tall and slender as them and most people dont have faces as them. They chose them for their uniquness. Its ART. See the hf clothes theyre wearing too are art. Get it?
I agree. Its like they push the stereotyoe that PoC women cannot be conventionally attractive. Whether or not they do this on purpose
One time someone told me I look super cute from the front but terrible from the side because it would show how long my nose is and the worst is the bump was pointed out to me when I didn't even know I had one.
That really made me hate my nose:(
I feel like men aren't so judged when they have big noses but for a woman you have to have a little button nose
This is suuuch an informative and good series! Keep it up, bingeing all the episodes now
The Asian model has the greatest interpupillary distance I've seen in my life. At this point, I agree with the Chinese respondents yet I'm sub-Saharan African.
What's up my fellow Kenyan.
@ Yup
@ lmaoo I am! But nice talking to you.
Kenyans are everywhere
I think China is more upset that Vogue is using a Chinese girl with facial deformity when having Asian representation in fashion magazines is rare enough.
7:10 caucasian enough? I think the Chinese just want someone that's actually prettier than what Vogue chose, it doesn't mean that model wasn't caucasian enough.
He literally showed comments of people saying it.
Love your channel. Really simply and easy to understand! Keep up the videos
Your content is super interesting. I am particularly fascinated by this 'defining beauty' series.
i don’t want plastic surgery but these videos are so entertaining
great video!! can you talk about clear skin when it comes to attractiveness? that would be so interesting!!
Samantha Pucky wdym
Its attractive - boom - done hahahh :D But for real - beauty is about visible traits of health and fitness - clear skin shows just that. No pimples, no strange color that may indicate illness, ect.
See through?
he could talk about acne and stuff and how people perceive different skin conditions? lmao why are y‘all so pressed don‘t @ me
Not much to discuss clear baby skin is what you want. Everything else is bad, harsh truth.
Just saw Jennifer Lopez's latest post and all I could think about was 'liquefied tool"
Fantastic video brother. Keep it coming.
i don't think 'conventionally attractive' means 'more western,' as you put it.....
You are pretty
@@necromelodia2432 thank you ^^
I think kinda everyone if they could would choose to have narrower and thinner features like white have and not rounder, wider like other races. but it s personal tastes tho
I don't believe she's ugly, just has a very polarizing face. She's not even necessarily stereotypically Chinese. I think she's absolutely stunning. Her overall face shape and balance just makes her look super cute. But maybe it's one of those yanny/laurel type thing that just vary from person to person either you find her super pretty or kind of alien🤷. But that level of bullying from her own people must suck for her
These videos are so well put together and explain so well i love it keep em coming ! 👍🏾👌🏽
I love your videos so much. You analyze everything. I learn new things everyday
so the indian nose or african noses they arent always very sharp like the caucasian nose as long as it fits right in the face , right size & defined enough (not extremely sharp like caucasian nose) & it suits your face then i think its attractive . am i wrong here ?
defined nose is a defined nose caucasian sharpness is not the only thing
When I was a child, I had this little ski jump nose. Then, it got broken from sports a couple times. I had surgery, but the doctor didn't do a very good job and my nose was still a bit crooked to the side and bulbous on that side. The sad part is, I had a twin sister whose nose did not get broken. One time we were out at a club and the photographer actually waved me out of the photo and took it just of my twin sister. God, that stung. Another time, I was on some public chat and a guy just started in on how huge my nose was. It was awful and humiliating, especially because I wasn't born this way. I've looked into getting more surgery but it was really traumatic and painful and even more so when the bandages came off and I kept waiting and waiting for my beautiful nose to appear and it never did.
Thanks for all your hard work on this! Can you try to discuss nose tip shapes, nasal width, and dorsal humps as it relates to "attractiveness"?
I love how beautiful this place makes me feel
I love my nose, its so attractive
I'm scared to watch this.
Great work tho💙👏
Interesting and science backed information. Subscribed!!
Thank you for all these amazing info. It's hardly condensed anywhere else.
I've been mewing since october and I got great results
I’m self conscious enough about my nose already 🥲
Your content is excellent and your points about there being natural standards independent of Eurocentric standards are valid.
I feel like this video did not do the best job of answering your critics, but you did a good job in earlier videos of pointing out that yellow hair and blue eyes might be Eurocentric beauty standards, but that the value of certain craniofacial forms aligning with the Golden Ratio are universal.
I hope you might do a video where you could perhaps outline some places where you believe the Eurocentric beauty standard diverges from the natural standards or adds some craniofacial aspect that would not be backed up by the natural standards.
Just a thought. Great channel. 👍
My nose has improved through two years of mewing. Very happy. My nose looks less sloped and more straight.
Very naive to say that Chinese people only like Western beauty standards, when in reality this is not totally true. While I think the model is beautiful and while I do think there are some standards which appear to be due to Eurocentric beauty standards (big eyes), it would be unfair to say they dislike all East Asian features.
The standard of beauty is not exactly the same as the West.
The criticism is coming from a place of being fed up of being exoticised be Western media. I don't agree with calling this model "not beautiful", because I definitely think she is, however don't just assume the Chinese just want to look white.
The number one plastic surgery for Chinese is double eyelid surgery, second being the nose to have a high bridge. So...
He's correct, Asian people do prefer western beauty standards. Just look at the media and the whitening cream isle.
Yeah, I'm an Asian too and though I've been more open minded and comfortable in my own skin than I used to be, being fairer is always a dream.
gertrude very naive of you to say your opinion speaks for all of China. You might think she’s pretty enough to represent China, but all of the criticizers say otherwise.
@@jadebass2 don't think you read my comment properly mate
I'm crying because now I'm sure my face is totally unattractive :D
Gonna work to be rich and pay myself a rhinoplasty
Doing the same now. Scheduled for it in 2 weeks!!!
@@zuzanazuscinova5209 good that you have the money to do it, I'm a ugly nosed broke bitch LMFAO
dezandnove “ugly nosed broke bitch” I’m joining the club !
"ugly nosed broke bitch" me
You deserve so much more subscribers.
You are so informative. Thank you!
Maybe a video on how to mew properly??
I wanna know what ur tips are.
BTW great content as usual.☺️
There is literally no evidence that mewing works.
Netizens weren’t mad because Vogue didn’t promote a Chinese model with euro-centric Chinese features whatever that mean (it means nothing in fact😂) they were mad because the traditional Han beauty (95% of Chinese are Han) was not represented (same with Korean models working in the West) and the backlash is even stronger when Asian models with darker skin or freckles are chosen to represent the ‘Asian beauty’ by western brands or publications. Because that’s the worst for them, I grew up in Japan and China (my parents had to work in those countries) and my Latin complexion was always considered as way too* dark for them ( beside the fact that I always had long curly hair, also looked upon).
Whooooo the last minute hit different 😮👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Dude thanks for covering the nose (no pun intended) I have kind of a Thai nose and felt bad abt it not being pointy or “angular” enough but now realize my (lean) face may make my normal sized nose appear wide on my face.
Gonna cherish clear skin & sharp jawline & worry abt rhinoplasty later :)
who ever is seeing this, you are beautiful no matter what and you are loved! 💕 have a nice day🌱 ;D
I actually think the chinese model is gorgeous
You're dumb
Thank you! I so agree! Like I have no idea what is up with her, but I just think she is beautiful!
idk what it is but her face is so unique and clear.. i feel bad that so many ppl are calling her ugly
@@rayhangs3665 just admit your vain 👁👄👁
@@rayhangs3665 Dumb for thinking someone is pretty? You need to get a life.
It would be really interesting if you take one famous person and analyze their features to see what makes them attractive, i mean like just a whole video analazyng that single person
Thank you for SCIENTIFICALLY proving why im ugly
Is there any way you can fix your nose shape without surgery? My eyes and eyebrows are a striking point of my face, but my nose basically ruins all chances of someone being able to face me without turning around. That applies to me, at least.
Depends on what you want to fix about it, you can get filler on your nose to soften a hump or to give your tip more projection or to correct asymmetry, it's a cosmetic procedure but not invasive like surgery
This leaves me completely confused and astonished, when I was a child people used to mock me about my big nose, over the years people stopped mocking my big nose and seem a lot more attracted to it, and I just found out through your videos that my face is almost perfect (perfect simetry, perfect porportion through each section, and very good angles including a very defined jawline). So thanks a lot, my insecurities were mainly about my nose, and you solved them all through your videos, I am a lot happier of how I look and found out that I am actually very attractive, probably people mocked me about my nose when I was younger because we were kids and we just mock everything that is slightly of the regular.
Great work as always.
I have a nice nose, everyone tells me it's pretty so I'm satisfied with my nose *PERIOD*
I can’t agree with the part on the Asian Vogue model. I grew up in China and I can tell you I’ve never really seen someone with a face that unusual, who is it benefiting beauty standard wise people with eyes so far part where you can park a car? Like be real no one looks like that conventionally and that is not the norm. The critique is on how the fashion industry “exotify “ Asian models where they have to be looking like they are from mars to be considered editorial. Like just genuinely go on a trip to China or something and you’ll realize that this kind of model isn’t representing anyone period.
Also really offended whey you suggested that those VS models looked white and automatically assumed that the people in the comment section looked similar to the Vogue model. It just shows that you have a preconceived idea that this is an average “Asian face” when it can’t be further from the truth. By that standard I guess I’m no longer Chinese nor any of my friends since they all look, quote on quote “white”.
不知道为什么有些没见过几个亚洲人的外国人自认为正义的帮我们贴着标签，”看这就是你们普遍的样子”。笑死我了自己多出国看看到底谁长这个样子？我怕不是个假中国人从小到大的同学也是假中国人。
So true, I felt attacked when he said that Chinese people are angry because the model didn’t look white enough. Like son, have you been to China?? Cause if you did, the majority of us look white to you then lol
Duran Wang Agree. That part made me mad.
Agree mate
*Fun fact* : the 'nose' & 'ears' are the two body parts that *never* stop growing until we die.
ah, well shit.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
I’m fucked then...
girl im about to catch a bus to Mars because these standards are too high
That’s fake, the nose stops growing, it just the tissue and things in the nose lose their firmness and strength which makes the nose seem like it’s growing when it’s not
I think that most of us who think we don't have good nose, actually it looks fine on the face overall. People actually don't notice a particular feature sometimes and what is unattractive to us, might be attractive to some :)
Exelent job as always.
I finally learned what mewing is
I hate my stupid nose
Your nose says alot about you
Noses are especially interesting to me. They make or break a face for me a lot of the time!
Interesting information.
The model looks beautiful. But then again I can’t tell who’s beautiful and who’s not. Unless there is something obvious and disfigured on a persons face (I still wouldn’t call them ugly) I’m not a good judge of looks. I think everyone is pretty :)
Thylane Blondeau Nope. I just don’t find faces attractive.
Watching this with my deviated septum, crooked, humped, over projected nose:
:(
Obsessed with all of your videos
These videos are so informative