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Give Me an Answer - The Supernatural Jesus!

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 พ.ย. 2019
  • #0419
    Cliffe Knechtle has a great conversation with college students at a campus in the southwest US.
    The "Give Me An Answer" ministry began as an outgrowth of the dialogues Cliffe Knechtle has had with students on various university campuses throughout the United States. These universities include the University of Maine, Harvard, MIT, University of Florida, University of Texas, University of Wisconsin, University of Minnesota, University of California Los Angeles, University of California San Diego, Berkeley, Stanford, University of Hawaii and the University of Washington. Cliffe spoke on these campuses in front of the Student Union or Library at noon for five to ten minutes. At the close of his initial remarks, he'd open up the time for questions and answers, which usually turned into a two to four hour dialogue with students. His crowd size ranged from 25 - 500 students at a time, and between classes, new students would join the discussion. This is an extremely effective way to reach a large number of university students with the Gospel of Christ.

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  • @deeisrael37
    @deeisrael37 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    1 Corinthians 1:18
    “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.”

  • @VICTORBARAHONA1983
    @VICTORBARAHONA1983 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    For all those smart people the beginning of knowledge is the fear of God

    • @romanswan2257
      @romanswan2257 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How? If God was good and we were created good then fear is based on bad right?

    • @ajr01-x6e
      @ajr01-x6e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@romanswan2257 We were created good, but now we are very prone to sin. I suppose by fearing God we can be reigned in. It's not just about fear, it's also about love and trust. But by recognizing God as the highest moral authority and that we need to follow him or else there are real consequences, that is where fear comes in. I could be wrong, but what it means to fear God seems to be taking God seriously and understanding and trying to change our own sinful natures. I hope that helps.

    • @oilimelavobnas5533
      @oilimelavobnas5533 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amén.
      Proverbios 1:7.
      Aleluya !!!
      Gloria a Dios en Cristo Jesús.
      Que la gracia de nuestro Señor Jesucristo, sea con cada uno de nosotros.
      🙌🙏👐✍🤝

  • @onestepaway3232
    @onestepaway3232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Cliff took the gloves off in this one! Blessings from Boston

  • @physicFitness
    @physicFitness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Keep on doing the great job Cliffe🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @rosalyn6344
    @rosalyn6344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is why even Jesus mentioned how blessed those in poor spirit are and those not ashamed of acknowledging him as their savior while on earth will rejoice in the Kingdom of Heaven and Our Heavenly Father will judge everyone!

  • @J0PHIEL
    @J0PHIEL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I really pray these peeps see truth and experience God in an amazing way

  • @christformealways9891
    @christformealways9891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love and Prayers from England.
    God bless you abundantly Cliffe

  • @Hernsama
    @Hernsama 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    How does cliff not have half a million subscribers by now?

    • @joelm6780
      @joelm6780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fern Because evolution is a testable fact. And religion is man made. The world is getting wiser and religion is an ever fading myth. That’s why!!

    • @henryvirtum1520
      @henryvirtum1520 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@joelm6780 and like I've said cliffs agrees with evolution,so I dont see why you bring it up?

    • @stevelovesgod
      @stevelovesgod 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@henryvirtum1520
      If cliff agrees with evolution, he denies genesis.
      Evolution is not testable, that's a retard statement. You can't test a process that takes several 1,000s of years

    • @joelm6780
      @joelm6780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      SteveLovesGOD Yes you can,see fossil records. Uc Berkeley archeological dept. you cannot be that naive.

    • @JeezyF
      @JeezyF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      no idea what those other comments are all about, but they had nothing to do with your comment lol, probably just not enough exposure.

  • @proorizo4985
    @proorizo4985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    YESHUA is my SAVIOUR

  • @jeremycbarnhart2305
    @jeremycbarnhart2305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Lol.
    Literally EVERY TIME Cliffe does the one on one camera talk, there is someone sprawled out on the grass...
    Looks like a post apocalyptic zone for 3 minutes while he addresses the camera. Lol

    • @D1sc0rd-
      @D1sc0rd- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      14:41 random inspirational intro music playing x)

  • @GraftedOliveBranch
    @GraftedOliveBranch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My opinion on this whole debate is simple......
    Praise JESUS the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
    🦁🕎🌈🐑🙏🗡🛡❤🕊🔯

  • @VinnySmiles01
    @VinnySmiles01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Kids need to listen more rather than waiting for their chance to talk.

    • @JeezyF
      @JeezyF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ok boomer

    • @VinnySmiles01
      @VinnySmiles01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jeezy F hey another brainless moron who gets his unoriginal “insults” from the Internet. It’s so easy for your stupid generation to just follow orders like “hey this is the new internet insult for this month. Stay tuned for the next thing we tell you is cool.” I’ve never seen so many dumb people repeating the same dumb thing without any original thought. It’s laughable how stupid you all sound.

    • @JeezyF
      @JeezyF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@VinnySmiles01 lol not from current gen, nice try. You're a complete asshole btw for somebody who really seems into Cliffe Knechtle. You take some moral high ground by commenting on a freaking youtube video that "Kids need to listen more rather than waiting for their chance to talk." That's a moronic comment, at least these kids are out there listening to people like this rather than being a stupid fart who sits on his ass commenting on youtube videos like he's superior for some reason.

    • @3joewj
      @3joewj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a dream vision that china and Russia mowed us over in a surprise land invasion...these pansies are the reason.

    • @jayjay-hm4ns
      @jayjay-hm4ns 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JeezyFuncalled for

  • @VICTORBARAHONA1983
    @VICTORBARAHONA1983 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love your vids cliffy

  • @dougwebster1813
    @dougwebster1813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The reason Jesus commanded His disciples to wait in Jerusalem to be endowed with power by the Holy Spirit is so they under the anointing of the Holy Spirit could DEMONSTRATE with signs and wonders the validity of their claims. These witnesses of Christ although having the biblical understanding they lack the power to move in the signs and wonders that would turn all of these naysayers into believers. For example, I was sharing the gospel with a gentleman and using it as an illustration of the gift of the word of knowledge. I told this man that it would be like me knowing your name was Paul and your wife's name is Mary and you live at 293 Water St. He stepped back and said, how did you know all that? Without realizing it the Holy Spirit dropped that information into my mind. As the word says, don't worry about what you will say because the Spirit will give you the words to speak. Paul as his name turned out to be asked Jesus into his heart right then and there. That is what being filled with the Holy Spirit will do as you go into all the world and preach the gospel in the power of His Spirit!

  • @philknox1879
    @philknox1879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In our criminal justice system we use the forensic methodology to determine the guilt or innocence of an individual. In determing the the truth evidence is examined. The gospel present a God-man who performed miracles. He had the ability to manage the laws of physics. He rose from the dead. He claimed he was 1 with God. Textural criticism clearly shows the accuracy of the new testament. There are over 10 secular authors who write of Jesus. The gospels and the secular authors agree with each other. The writing of the gospels are very early. First Corinthian is believed to have been penned about 14 years after the crusification. Of significance is the fact that none of the new testament describes the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem. This indicates that the whole new testament had to have been written prior to 70 AD. This means that not enough time evolved for a myth to be created. Also there is no contradiction voiced against the gospel at that time.

  • @CuauhtemocVasquez-ld8cn
    @CuauhtemocVasquez-ld8cn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job Kliff and Stewart 🙂👍

  • @josephd7593
    @josephd7593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These kids don’t understand that scientific “proof” is a myth. Empirical evidence exists without a doubt but undeniable proof is nonexistent. Why? Because to prove something is to insinuate that it can’t be done another way, which is impossible to do. God bless!

  • @Melanie-qj8yi
    @Melanie-qj8yi หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jesus proved to me He is real in this modern age. The supernatural is available to humans since Jesus walked the Earth. If you don't seek the Holy Spirit you won't experience it. If you don't believe try asking God for help and see what happens.

  • @friedit7862
    @friedit7862 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    college kids level of thinking is so overrated, i only went to college to fulfill a desire of going to college and graduate with honors in business. I didn't even tell anyone because it was so easy and I did the same in IT as well. Its a waste of time, I'm not even doing what i went to college for.

  • @geraldburke5147
    @geraldburke5147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So many people today believe what they want to believe. So many dont see the need for God, so many dont like the idea of being judged.
    Many argue against God because they dont want be governed, and dont want to need God. Atheism is a father based system and I have seen no evidence that it has any merit, and I've been looking..

  • @lawrenceeason8007
    @lawrenceeason8007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly what justice is there in a religion that says this:
    1. If you are a person who takes care of their mother, fosters 3 children and gives to the poor you go to hell because you aren't a Christian.
    2. But if you are a lifelong child rapist and accept Christ 4 days before you die at 73 years old you are rewarded in heaven
    And you say there is justice in this religion? Better justice in the real world

  • @floridabigbear
    @floridabigbear 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why would people wait 20 years to write about such an amazing story???? 20 years???

    • @mikerussell2590
      @mikerussell2590 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the Christ followers were busy spreading the good news throughout the civilized world. what have you accomplished in the last 20 years?

  • @chrisignacio8422
    @chrisignacio8422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Same guy shows up to show his bravado. I hope he sees the Truth one day.

  • @lawrenceeason8007
    @lawrenceeason8007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For 50 years I was a theist. A Christian. I can defend this religion no longer. My deconversion from this religion almost 12 years ago was the best thing to ever happen to me. I hope many more will experience the release I did from the bondage of this judgemental, condescending and condemning religion

    • @JT-ml4qg
      @JT-ml4qg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lawerence-if you can’t defend Christianity any longer, you were never saved in the first place. Your faith fell on thorns, on rocky soil, and never rooted securely into the good soil. You may have walked away from Christ, but remember this: Jeremiah 1 says “before you were born, God knew you... You can leave the Lord and stay in the world in your flesh, but your living spirit given to you by the Lord lives forever. Don’t let prince of this earth tell you there is no God; should you continue to listen to this false god, your soul will burn in hell fire forever. Don’t follow Satan.

    • @lawrenceeason8007
      @lawrenceeason8007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JT-ml4qg I was. I was a Christian and saved. I just finally realized that the bible I was defending is truly immoral. I didn't realize it before. Took a very long time to realize it...but it happened. My deconversion from this religion was the best thing to happen to me.

    • @JT-ml4qg
      @JT-ml4qg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lawrence Eason ...not sure what you mean by immoral? If anything, it’s the most moral book on the planet that has ever existed. I’ve been walking with Christ for over 5 decades, was saved as a little child (never ever thought of leaving God’s side for anything, no matter what). Sometimes we need a refreshing of the spirit. Don’t give up Lawrence; it’s what the enemy wants. Never give up!

    • @JT-ml4qg
      @JT-ml4qg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lawrence Eason Immorality is the world-Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. There is only One who is called good. Don’t become a god and create your own idol in your image. You are a created being, made perfectly by the Holy Crafted hands our Savior. Don’t destroy your soul to prove that your mind, ego and self righteous supersede that of a Holy, Just, Merciful and loving God. Don’t do it! Please!

    • @lawrenceeason8007
      @lawrenceeason8007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JT-ml4qg I was a believer for 50 years. An atheist for 12. I cannot defend this religion anymore. Genocide, killing children and babies, slavery, executing gay people, killing everyone except virgin girls...children. Can't do it anymore

  • @lookupromans109jesusiscomi4
    @lookupromans109jesusiscomi4 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We can strike with the Laws, and then give them the Gospel.

  • @TheTriplelman
    @TheTriplelman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    was there a town of Jerusalem?, town Galilee and judea? Pontius Pilot, red sea, crucifixions', hill of sculls, Herod Antipas? well that PROVES its HISTORICAL - not fiction,

  • @boglerun8444
    @boglerun8444 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:20 Consensus among historians & theologians is that Paul (Sosthenes) authored the First Corinthians c. AD 53-54). That's quite some time after the alleged event & therefore cannot be relied upon as a true historic account.

    • @Malhaloc
      @Malhaloc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is it fair to say, then, that an interview with a survivor of the Titanic or Auschwitz decades after it happened wouldn't be a true historic account? Or can we assume that if someone experienced a major event, that major event would stick with them for the rest of their life? It's true, we can't rely on an account like "He was wearing a red shirt." That's a minor detail and wouldn't be something your brain would retain. You're not going to see someone go to sleep after a bad day at work, wake up, then do some jumping jacks to start their day and years later remember it as rising from the dead after a brutal public execution and ascending to Heaven.

    • @bigtxsdude
      @bigtxsdude ปีที่แล้ว

      you just erased almost all of history with that thought process
      Guess they should stop teaching history in school …
      UNFREEKNBULEEVABL

    • @jimmy5170
      @jimmy5170 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      First Corinthians isn't historical narrative. It's a letter.

  • @loganminton8249
    @loganminton8249 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you number these? I see much higher numbers with young cliffe in the video.

  • @godisgood201
    @godisgood201 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The smugness and arrogance on that kid in the white shirt. College has trained kids to not be able to have an open mind in the slightest.

  • @jannehapponen1149
    @jannehapponen1149 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These guys who says there are no evidence that there is God are blinded because they don't know scriptures. There are so much evidence that Bible IS real deal as 1.archeologycally and trustfull as 2. a historial document (manuscripst) and also 3. in prophecies and 4. the writings huge consistancy that there are not any excuse to say that Bible is not reliable.

  • @unidahl5821
    @unidahl5821 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, and 9-11 is exactly how muhammed instructed his followers...

    • @1surfpesca_
      @1surfpesca_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I pretty much agree 100% that the Quran commands some inane things
      But I think they’re trying not to stir the pot on a university campus by bashing. I think they try to place everyone’s religion on the same pedestal and they’ll push back on issues they have with it but I think it’s smart for them not to jump into Quran

  • @j2mfp78
    @j2mfp78 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also 1st 2nd comment. 😀

    • @j2mfp78
      @j2mfp78 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @T J 1st comment to respond to you. 😀

    • @maxbower2097
      @maxbower2097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also 1st 2nd response. :)

  • @WISHBONEL7
    @WISHBONEL7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sinful nature is false sin is a choice .

    • @JeezyF
      @JeezyF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      strong argument lol...

  • @GraftedOliveBranch
    @GraftedOliveBranch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That kid in the white shirt looks very much like "Cody" from Frank Tureks "cross examined" videos.... 🤔

  • @jackalsgate1146
    @jackalsgate1146 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus was a great man, and after his death, his disciples went and made a God of him.

    • @elizabethshaw734
      @elizabethshaw734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are so very wrong and one day you will discover that fact.

  • @lawrenceeason8007
    @lawrenceeason8007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Epicurus said:
    "Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

    • @Justanidea5976
      @Justanidea5976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the Lord said, There will be a day of judgement.
      He also gave us free will. All of that would take it away.

    • @bonnie43uk
      @bonnie43uk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Justanidea5976 Byakuya, do I have the free will to reject Christ because I simply do not find the evidence credible?, or will I be somehow punished for exercising my free will? ..I'm not rejecting him out of any kind of rebelliousness, I simply do not believe those stories in the New Testament.

    • @Justanidea5976
      @Justanidea5976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bonnie43uk Yes, just as the same as I have free will to believe in Him. I don't see why a person would die for what they know to be a lie.
      Yes, just like in court, people will be punished for their free choices. It depends on what's true, what has the most evidence.

    • @bonnie43uk
      @bonnie43uk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Justanidea5976 How can it be true free will if there is a threat of punishment if I don't choose the right option as you see it. It sounds very much like a Mafia threat whereby if I don't do as they say, they will burn my shop to the ground. Also, you didn't really answer the Epicurus quote that Lawrence quoted. You could argue to a degree that Hitler had freewill to slaughter millions of Jews, but where was the free will of the Jews to say "no thanks"? .. they didn't get a say in the matter. We can all agree what the Nazi's did was evil... was God looking down watching all this go on unable to intervene? ...as Epicurus says "If he's able but unwilling, then he's malevolent".

    • @lawrenceeason8007
      @lawrenceeason8007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Justanidea5976 if god gave man free will god gave man all the tools for disobedience. You can't get 100% perfect compliance with free will

  • @boglerun8444
    @boglerun8444 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Faith requires no evidence....therefore how can you expect to convince someone that doesn't share your faith that your faith is a fact.

    • @Malhaloc
      @Malhaloc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Faith doesn't mean blind faith, that's why there's a distinction between the 2. It's not our job to convince people. Be able to explain why you have the faith you do, but ultimately, our job is to share the Gospel and let God reap the harvest.

    • @boglerun8444
      @boglerun8444 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Malhaloc Religious faith requires no evidence...ergo blind faith.....you have no evidence your God exists, your gospel is just a book of hearsay & fantasy stories. Obviously, you are free to share it but don't peddle it as 'truth'.....that's just snake oil.

    • @Malhaloc
      @Malhaloc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@boglerun8444 I disagree. Let me ask you, do you believe the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything?

    • @boglerun8444
      @boglerun8444 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Malhaloc You have stated that it is scientifically impossibility that nothing created everything....do you have evidence to support that claim?

    • @Malhaloc
      @Malhaloc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boglerun8444 Yes, actually. The scientific law that states matter can neither be created, nor destroyed. Which means for rocks to just magically pop up out of...not even thin air in outer space is literally impossible. It's a miracle. Now, we both seem to believe that may have been the case. The difference is, I believe in a miracle worker and you don't.
      If I say to you that I had nothing for breakfast, you don't assume I ate a thing called nothing. You assume I didn't eat anything. There's not going to suddenly appear a pizza in my stomach if I don't eat. Just like there's not going to suddenly appear rocks and gas and liquids out of nothing. It's impossible. Does that make sense?

  • @lawrenceeason8007
    @lawrenceeason8007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    1. God created human beings with free will
    2. Free will enables/allows sin and bad behavior
    3. God not only does it anyway but KNOWS his design will result in sin and bad behavior
    4. Knowing his flawed design/plan, he doesn't improve or change it and follows through.
    His decision. His plan. His fault

    • @JeezyF
      @JeezyF 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      what's His fault?

    • @lawrenceeason8007
      @lawrenceeason8007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JeezyF that man went "astray" and the suffering in the world

    • @JeezyF
      @JeezyF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lawrenceeason8007 or that's the result of freedom to choose? If we didn't have a choice to do good or bad then, if there's a deity out there, how on earth could that deity love us?

    • @lawrenceeason8007
      @lawrenceeason8007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JeezyF correct...god gave man all the tools to fail and suffer. I don't believe in "sin". I like free will. But if there is a god, and that god gave man free will, and then condemns him for exercising that free will, then that god isn't moral.
      Could that god have designed this world where there was no suffering? If so than that god is a monster for not doing it. If it couldn't than it is not all powerful.

    • @JeezyF
      @JeezyF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lawrenceeason8007 what do you mean by condemn? sounds like you have a different viewpoint of heaven. I think this is scripturally sound, but don't quote me on that, but I see heaven as a perfect place. A perfect place can only have perfection in it, which inherently excludes imperfection. Therefore nothing imperfect (so no human) can enter heaven without perfection. The grace of God gives that perfection to those that accept it (when they leave "this earth").
      And once again, you're assuming that God would make a perfect place with perfect people who can do no wrong. But if we can't do wrong then our actions and words are limited. And if we're restricted in what we can say or do then we're nothing more than robots. What kind of loving deity would create nothing but robots?? If the gift of God is eternal life, then the second gift of God is free choice.
      Not to mention, if you take the "Revelation" of John the baptist as gospel, then you acknowledge that God has promised a new heaven and a new earth where the "lion lays with the lame". Meaning a perfect place where all are welcome if they so choose.

  • @j2mfp78
    @j2mfp78 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    First.

  • @Mike34006
    @Mike34006 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Educated information to uneducated students

  • @tjq7888
    @tjq7888 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    20:04 how come you said that the quran is reliable
    🤯💥👈

    • @thewaytruthlifeeternal9023
      @thewaytruthlifeeternal9023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      In terms of the historical account of Muhammad and what he taught, the Quran is historically reliable because it's accurate as to what Muhammad wrote down. Just because it's historically accurate as to what he wrote down does not make it True however. That's Cliffe's point. The Quran is reliable historically, and based on Muhammad's account, Muhammad was a pedophile who married a 7 year old and consummated her marriage at age 9, and took up his sword against his enemies... Whereas the Gospels are also historically reliable, and based on Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and a few others' accounts, Jesus Christ did not sin, forgave His enemies, and rose from the dead. If both texts are historically accurate, the question is: Who's more Trustworthy? Muhammad the pedophile who drew the sword at his enemies, or Jesus Christ who did not sin, forgave His enemies, and rose from the dead? The answer is simple...

    • @tjq7888
      @tjq7888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thewaytruthlifeeternal9023
      My friend, the quran is way far to be called accurate!!I am an arab, the problem is that muslims created history to make their" QURAN" historical, this guy should only talk about the bible...

    • @CKD3332
      @CKD3332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tjq7888 You are so right, even the truth is Muhammad wrote nothing down. Its all copied. Muhammad is the biggest liar ever.

  • @joelm6780
    @joelm6780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please listen to dan barker, Christopher hitchens, Sam Harris!! It will change your life!!

    • @playzfahdayz
      @playzfahdayz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Jesus Christ rose from the dead. Dan Barker, Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris did not rise from the dead. I'll put my chips of Jesus Christ. Thanks.

    • @JeezyF
      @JeezyF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you're nothing more than a troll, what did you think of the discussion?

  • @gollumgollum
    @gollumgollum 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I often hear Cliff reference when Paul wrote that 500 people saw Jesus risen from the dead. I like Cliff but this is an error. What he doesn't understand is that is "one" person claiming 500 people witnessed an event.
    Let me explain. If I say I saw an alien and 500 people also saw the alien that does not mean 501 people saw an alien. That means I did and I am claiming 500 people also did. Now, if 501 people all give their own account of seeing the alien that would be 501 people all claiming they witnessed an event.
    It does not matter if Paul said 500 people, 5,000, or 5,000,000 m its still just one person making a claim.
    We'll ignore the fact that 501 witnessed a dead man rise from the grave and only one wrote about it 20 years later.

    • @johndavis7078
      @johndavis7078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Using your objection, who was the one person that witnessed Jesus alive? Was it Mary? Did Peter see Jesus again? Or is your one person Doubting Thomas?
      See what I'm getting at? It wasn't one person as you said. You are incorrect in that claim. John saw him again too. How many eyewitness accounts do you want to ignore and pretend they all came from one account?

    • @gollumgollum
      @gollumgollum 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mentioned one person. Paul.
      I never mentioned John or pretended to ignore other accounts that is a lie.
      It is YOU who are incorrect as you failed to understand I was discussing the flaw in PAUL's testimony, no one elses.
      If you wish to have a discussion thats fine but dont lie it makes you seem foolish and/or stupid

    • @gollumgollum
      @gollumgollum 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johndavis7078 No comment after I caught you in a lie? Fair enough.

    • @johndavis7078
      @johndavis7078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gollumgollum Hold up a minute, please don't assume because I do not reply as quickly as you wish I would that means any such thing. Maybe it means I was giving my child a bath and playing Legos.
      What "lie" did you catch me in??? Or to put it another way, what the heck are you talking about?

    • @gollumgollum
      @gollumgollum 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johndavis7078 You accused me of ignoring eye witness accounts and pretending they all came from one account. I was clearly speaking about the testimony of Paul only. I never mentioned anyone else. So you made that up.
      So you'll have to forgive me, perhaps you were not lying. You may not have understood the concept of one person giving an account vs invalidating every account ever written.
      Which strikes me as odd since I gave a very simple example. Let me try again.
      If I went to court and said "Your honor I saw this man kill that person and 500 other people saw it too." Would the judge accept that testimony?
      Remember, we are talking about ONE person. Paul. Answer that question and then if you would like to discuss John, Peter etc be glad too.