Coming back to this story after SMU just finished the 2023 season in the AP Top 25, was in the AAC championship game, AND is now entering the ACC next year. Guess the turnaround is coming to fruition.
The 30 for 30 Pony Exce$$ is an all time classic "You had schools spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on players and only winning 3 games, now thats a definition of a loser"
It was nice of Texas A & M to give Eric Dickerson a Trans Am to play for SMU. Lol What did they call the car? The Trans A & M! Would’ve been funnier if they got him a Mustang. 😂
What infuriates me about SMU’s death penalty is that the NCAA punished the hell out of them for buying players but yet they practically gave Penn State a slap on the wrist for covering up a horrific child sex abuse that went on for 13 years if not longer
Sadly the repercussions from what happened to SMU means that we will never seen a team get an even half as severe punishment. Even if they deserve it more like PSU
SMU broke the law then lied about it then did it again then got caught. Did they deserve the death penalty? Dunno. Did Penn State deserve the death penalty for what they did. Ironic that if SMU paid its recruits now, it would not even be looked at as a violation
@@djLagwayEnjoyer The ACC won't last much longer. As soon as the first school figures out how to get out of the ACC without it costing a gazillion dollars in penalties, then the ACC will collapse. Florida State, Clemson, Miami all want out. They see how much money the SEC schools get and they want that, but the ultimate goal is to find a home that pays Big Ten money.
@@djLagwayEnjoyerfsu is leaving Clemson will follow suit Acc is dead and it’s because they’re spineless Fsu got screwed by its own conference, espn and the sec
@@anthonymelendez333 don’t blame the sec and espn. Blame Bobby Bowden for being a pussy and not joint the sec when they had the chance. He said himself that he was scared to join the sec and that winning a national championship would be impossible for Florida state. I wish Florida state would join the sec so that way we don’t have to hear their fans bitch anymore
While payments to players was huge one aspect of SMU’s downfall that doesn’t nearly get enough attention was that several of its players signed contracts with a shady agent named Lloyd Bloom. Bloom, who had connections to organized crime in New York City would threaten players or their families with violence if they tried to back out of their contracts, once that information became public the NCAA said enough is enough.
I was on the ‘80 - ‘83 SMU teams. The ‘82 team was the best. A lot of guys on the team passed a lot of gas and it was due to the grain heavy diet we had
I grew up watching SMU at that time. We were in a very small town, mostly catholic. At catechism one week, me and a friend told the teacher we were both planning on going to SMU for college. (I loved their home uniforms, the mustang on the helmet, Dickerson looked cool running or standing still). She told us, that's Southern Methodist, the 2 of you aren't Methodists. ! 😂
Because of the TV revenue that is involved in today's game its hard to imagine this happening again. Even a TV blackout like Auburn had in the early 90s seems unlikely.
Ole Miss in 1995 was the last team banned from TV. The NCAA now realizes it is unfair to penalize the teams who don't break the rules by blacking them out alongside the cheaters. The conferences instead hold a violator's TV revenue in escrow when it is given a postseason ban.
Kentucky men's basketball bounced back quickly from its death penalty to continue playing at a high level under Adolph Rupp. Baylor basketball and Penn State football were more deserving of death penalty sanctions in the eras of their heinous violations though their roads to recovery likely would have been quicker than SMU. I wonder if Michigan football might be a candidate for the death penalty based on the sign stealing allegations they face.
Oddly enough, this was not the first time the NCAA used the "Death Penalty". It was the third time. It had been used a total of five times. 1. The University of Kentucky men's basketball team for the 1952-53 season. 2. The University of Southern Louisiana (Now University of Louisiana at Lafayette.) men's basketball program for the 1973-74 and 1974-75 seasons. 3. The topic of this video. 4. The men's soccer team at Morehouse College, a DII school, for the 2004 and 2005 seasons 5. The men's tennis team at MacMurray College, a D3 school for the 2005-06 and 2006-07 seasons (Program was permanently killed off from it. MacMurray College was closed for good in 2020)
Didn't Houston get the death penalty as well? I remember back in the day they couldn't even be on national TV.. during the time of Andre Ware and David Kingler, they were like banned from TV... Not even a highlight lol.. I remember just seeing these outrageous scores they used to put up but not a highlight lol
@@manatarmsslaps Houston was on probation. Meaning scholarships were reduced, no bowl games, and no national television. Despite all that, the program was allowed to continue to keep playing. All of the programs I mentioned were forced to suspend operations for their penalties.
@@metalcatgaming7422 yeah I wasn't disputing difference in the schools you mentioned bs Houston. I simply couldn't remember if Houston had gotten the death penalty or not lol.. I was like in the 8th or 9th grade back when I first remember that about Houston hell, I didn't even know what the death penalty was when all this stuff came out about SMU. Hell, never heard of SMU back then . When that stuff happened with them I was even younger lol
Love these sort of videos. As a born and bred Brit who got into football (both NFL and college) through his American wife's interest, these videos provide some history and insight into the various programs and historical events.
My only issue is that nearly 75 percent of the major 105 NCAA football programs at the time participated in some form of pay for play recruiting strategy to lure their best players but the NCAA chose to make SMU into a hypocritical case study...Extremely unfortunate...
Different times, you could hit the QB way after he through it. Pass interference was not even close to the same thing as today, a lot more contact allowed from the defense to defenseless receivers. If you tried to do a spread style offense like today, your QB would be out for the game by halftime and half of your receivers would be in the hospital. The run game was a lot more effective and consistent because of this, so the clock would be running most of the game, which in turn caused games to be a lot shorter
I sat in the stands and got a sunburn on the left side of my face and legs/arms just to watch my beloved Razorbacks lose 3-7 at home to Mississippi State in the year 2023.
I remember watching that game. Notice how there was no virtually one in the stands? There was a massive winter storm in Texas, and It was 0 degrees with heavy sleet by the end. Impossible playing conditions, that game would have 100 percent been postponed today. Dan Marino was the starting QB for Pitt, btw. If he couldn’t throw the ball in those conditions no one could have.
@@Dr-Alexander-The-Great The one thing that those had that that SMU didn’t have was a competitive media market that was willing to rat them out to make their careers.
They finally recovered a few years ago, they have been ranked almost every year the past 3 or 4 years, they're in the teens this season. But before that they hadn't been since this death penalty.
My band teacher in high school went to SMU during this time, and only got to do marching band 1 year before they got the death penalty. He told me.about how to not get cut the marching band would try to get into as many parades and do as many guest appearances as possible.
@@ms.felonystrutter2472Because Penn State is a brand, a huge one at that. The NCAA is blatantly corrupt, they’ll use the DP on lower schools to look good for the media but will completely ignore any problems if it’s a big name school, because money talks.
You barely squeezed in Craig James at the end of this video - how could you possibly leave out Eric Dickerson? He and Craig James were key to SMU's National Championship and also key to why SMU got the Death Penalty.
SMU got the death penalty for paying players, yet Penn State didn't see anywhere near the same punishment for harboring and protecting a serial child molester... all the way up to the top of the university. Penn State should not have a football team, even today.
Completely different set of circumstances. The criminal case (Sandusky) has been tried; it's not like PSU and the community at large knew for years and years what was going on. If so, don't you think something would have happened sooner? As in a backlash?? It wasn't until 2011 until the facts came out, and after the investigation, the NCAA realized that there was no lack of institutional control and wound up dropping the sanctions. Because they didn't have a case, or PSU would still be in deep sh!t. SMU continued to press the issue even when approached with "hey, don't do this no more!" It's not like the NCAA went to Penn State in 1999 and told them to keep Sandusky, now an ex coach, off campus. Big difference there.
It crazy now days what SMU was doing over 40 years ago is all legal now with NIL. I hope SMU is allowed to hang National Championship banners for there titles back then. Because now days this stuff is all legit to pay players.
the 'woe is me, you picked on us" attitude is so tired. they had multiple, multiple warnings and their response was a finger & they continued.. zero sympathy here. but that's what people do now: break the law then cry foul for reason X.
SMU would be perfectly legal today even in that time Florida State University was just as bad. Let’s also not forget the amount of violations Clemson University had during that same time that was just slightly less than SMU’s
Uh, when you first mentioned Bill Clements, you showed Mark White, the man who beat Bill Clements in the 1982 election. Clements came back to win against White in 1986. Clements's second term has been described as his revenge on Texas for not reelecting him in '82.
So the school paid the players and that's what drove them to drugs. C'mon now that sounds like a stretch. It's unfortunate that they died but 2 players snitching on the school out of spite because they got injured warrants no sympathy or praise. Had they not gotten hurt I'm sure they wouldn't have said a word.
It doesn’t make sense that the ACC added SMU. Nobody in Dallas gives a rat’s ass about SMU unlike Texas A&M or Texas. It would be great if SMU won the ACC in football when they join.
SMU got hosed. You don't think teams like Texas, Notre Dame, USC, weren't doing this? Of course they were. You think the ncaa didn't know this? Of course they did. This was a personal thing. Not sure why but how else do you explain it?
Damn you Dale Hansen. SMU died because of you. Every team does it. The really great teams just don't get caught or pay off the right people. I suppose they should have been better at cheating.
Charles Waggoner had Craig James and Dickerson on the bench, he hurt his knee, that’s when they came up with the 2 back backfield The Pony Express, before that them guys were on the bench.#Facts
Yeah those kind of players were rare. Most recruits were lucky to get a 1000 bucks. I know someone in 2013 who was a 4 star recruit. His biggest bag offer was 7 grand
@@baronvonslambert 7,000 compared to what Eric Dickerson was being paid is pocket change. That’s the point he was trying to make. I knew a guy who played basketball a major university he made 2 million during his 4 years.
This scandal did more than kill SMU football for two decades. It killed the entire Southwest Conference, led to the formation of the Big XII and helped cause all the downflow realignment drama issues there.
It didn't kill the Southwest Conference, the big schools purposely killed it in order to gain total control of Houston and DFW recruiting, just look at the SWC schools that were left out of the Big 12
@@patrickhurley240NOOOO, typical cry baby shit. That was a horrible call ..no doubt. However you are assuming SMU would not have moved the ball if not for that play, when the play before they hit a beautiful fade pattern in your joke defense. STOP CRYING
SMU class of '80 here -- I went to one game the whole time I was in school. I probably would have gone to more games but they insisted on playing in Texas Stadium. If they had played on campus I'm sure I'd have cared more about the football team. The school definitely did pay recruits, but they weren't the only school doing it.
I had a professor in college that graduated around the same time you did. She said you could always tell who the football players were because of the flashy cars they drove.
Coming back to this story after SMU just finished the 2023 season in the AP Top 25, was in the AAC championship game, AND is now entering the ACC next year. Guess the turnaround is coming to fruition.
What a redemption arc!
Only took 30 years
Too bad the ACC won’t be around much longer
@@beavsfan1I was literally about to say basically making a lateral move.
The ACC is currently being dissolved as i'm writing and you're reading this!
The 30 for 30 Pony Exce$$ is an all time classic
"You had schools spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on players and only winning 3 games, now thats a definition of a loser"
The great Norm Hitzges with that genius line during the documentary
Now that’s Miami lol
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Southwest Conference.. come on man
I agree a very good topic .
NCAA: “You are banned from postseason play for the 1981-82 season for recruiting violations.”
SMU: “I’LL FUCKIN’ DO IT AGAIN!!!”
😆🤣😂
It was nice of Texas A & M to give Eric Dickerson a Trans Am to play for SMU. Lol What did they call the car? The Trans A & M! Would’ve been funnier if they got him a Mustang. 😂
"THE DEMONS TOLD ME TO!!" 🤣🤣
What infuriates me about SMU’s death penalty is that the NCAA punished the hell out of them for buying players but yet they practically gave Penn State a slap on the wrist for covering up a horrific child sex abuse that went on for 13 years if not longer
I was just thinking that while watching this
That’s because the NCAA loves to diddle kids too
Sadly the repercussions from what happened to SMU means that we will never seen a team get an even half as severe punishment. Even if they deserve it more like PSU
SMU broke the law then lied about it then did it again then got caught. Did they deserve the death penalty? Dunno. Did Penn State deserve the death penalty for what they did. Ironic that if SMU paid its recruits now, it would not even be looked at as a violation
SMU probably saved Penn State from recieving the Death Penalty. @Jimbo55151
SMU football program was NIL before NIL in the 80s
I wonder if Sherwood Blount comes back out, now that NIL is a thing.
Glad to see SMU just won the American Athletic Conference and will become a Power 4 school next year by joining the ACC
acc IS BEING DISSOLVED.
@@gailjones9155no it’s not. The Pac12 is being dissolved buddy
@@djLagwayEnjoyer The ACC won't last much longer. As soon as the first school figures out how to get out of the ACC without it costing a gazillion dollars in penalties, then the ACC will collapse. Florida State, Clemson, Miami all want out. They see how much money the SEC schools get and they want that, but the ultimate goal is to find a home that pays Big Ten money.
@@djLagwayEnjoyerfsu is leaving Clemson will follow suit
Acc is dead and it’s because they’re spineless
Fsu got screwed by its own conference, espn and the sec
@@anthonymelendez333 don’t blame the sec and espn. Blame Bobby Bowden for being a pussy and not joint the sec when they had the chance. He said himself that he was scared to join the sec and that winning a national championship would be impossible for Florida state. I wish Florida state would join the sec so that way we don’t have to hear their fans bitch anymore
For perspective, the $20 given to a kid in 1980 is worth about $80 in 2023.
Even then I can't imagine $20 influencing anybody for such an important decision...
@@tomservo56954 as they used to say in ancient times "20 bucks is 20 bucks"
While payments to players was huge one aspect of SMU’s downfall that doesn’t nearly get enough attention was that several of its players signed contracts with a shady agent named Lloyd Bloom. Bloom, who had connections to organized crime in New York City would threaten players or their families with violence if they tried to back out of their contracts, once that information became public the NCAA said enough is enough.
I was on the ‘80 - ‘83 SMU teams. The ‘82 team was the best.
A lot of guys on the team passed a lot of gas and it was due to the grain heavy diet we had
yo ahh did NOT play there 🗣️
Wrong.
Watch your tone when you address me, too.
@@johndor7890What position?
Right tackle. Started in ‘82 and ‘83.
Why is Joe Swanson doing the narration.
I was on that team but transferred to North Texas took a pay cut 😮
SMU stood for Slush Money Unlimited.
“no it was absolutely ficking not” 😂
I grew up watching SMU at that time. We were in a very small town, mostly catholic. At catechism one week, me and a friend told the teacher we were both planning on going to SMU for college. (I loved their home uniforms, the mustang on the helmet, Dickerson looked cool running or standing still). She told us, that's Southern Methodist, the 2 of you aren't Methodists. ! 😂
Because of the TV revenue that is involved in today's game its hard to imagine this happening again. Even a TV blackout like Auburn had in the early 90s seems unlikely.
Ole Miss in 1995 was the last team banned from TV. The NCAA now realizes it is unfair to penalize the teams who don't break the rules by blacking them out alongside the cheaters. The conferences instead hold a violator's TV revenue in escrow when it is given a postseason ban.
I think when lebron had a hummer in high school people just started accepting it
We back in the power conferences now baby!
The ACC is about to implode so, not really
@@ByarsDesign see you in ten years :)
Are you dumb? @@ByarsDesign
@@rangersking6699lol in the Big 12?
Kentucky men's basketball bounced back quickly from its death penalty to continue playing at a high level under Adolph Rupp. Baylor basketball and Penn State football were more deserving of death penalty sanctions in the eras of their heinous violations though their roads to recovery likely would have been quicker than SMU. I wonder if Michigan football might be a candidate for the death penalty based on the sign stealing allegations they face.
Blue Mountain State got it pretty bad too
Oddly enough, this was not the first time the NCAA used the "Death Penalty". It was the third time. It had been used a total of five times.
1. The University of Kentucky men's basketball team for the 1952-53 season.
2. The University of Southern Louisiana (Now University of Louisiana at Lafayette.) men's basketball program for the 1973-74 and 1974-75 seasons.
3. The topic of this video.
4. The men's soccer team at Morehouse College, a DII school, for the 2004 and 2005 seasons
5. The men's tennis team at MacMurray College, a D3 school for the 2005-06 and 2006-07 seasons (Program was permanently killed off from it. MacMurray College was closed for good in 2020)
Didn't Houston get the death penalty as well? I remember back in the day they couldn't even be on national TV.. during the time of Andre Ware and David Kingler, they were like banned from TV... Not even a highlight lol.. I remember just seeing these outrageous scores they used to put up but not a highlight lol
Kentucky's death penalty ended up being a short pause. They simply picked up where they left off in the mid 1950s.
@@manatarmsslaps Houston was on probation. Meaning scholarships were reduced, no bowl games, and no national television. Despite all that, the program was allowed to continue to keep playing. All of the programs I mentioned were forced to suspend operations for their penalties.
@@metalcatgaming7422 yeah I wasn't disputing difference in the schools you mentioned bs Houston. I simply couldn't remember if Houston had gotten the death penalty or not lol.. I was like in the 8th or 9th grade back when I first remember that about Houston hell, I didn't even know what the death penalty was when all this stuff came out about SMU. Hell, never heard of SMU back then . When that stuff happened with them I was even younger lol
UL Lafayette is actually now now as just the University of Luisiana
Love these sort of videos. As a born and bred Brit who got into football (both NFL and college) through his American wife's interest, these videos provide some history and insight into the various programs and historical events.
My only issue is that nearly 75 percent of the major 105 NCAA football programs at the time participated in some form of pay for play recruiting strategy to lure their best players but the NCAA chose to make SMU into a hypocritical case study...Extremely unfortunate...
Just discovered your channel. Love it. Thank you for your work.
Bro a 7-3 football game???? They were playing hockey out there.
Edit: The Vaudeville Villian instrumental is a sick choice 🔥🔥🔥
Different times, you could hit the QB way after he through it. Pass interference was not even close to the same thing as today, a lot more contact allowed from the defense to defenseless receivers. If you tried to do a spread style offense like today, your QB would be out for the game by halftime and half of your receivers would be in the hospital. The run game was a lot more effective and consistent because of this, so the clock would be running most of the game, which in turn caused games to be a lot shorter
Vikings raiders 3-0 game last weekend starting to get nervous over here 🤣
I sat in the stands and got a sunburn on the left side of my face and legs/arms just to watch my beloved Razorbacks lose 3-7 at home to Mississippi State in the year 2023.
The wishbone running attack was still very much a thing in the 80's.
I remember watching that game. Notice how there was no virtually one in the stands? There was a massive winter storm in Texas, and It was 0 degrees with heavy sleet by the end. Impossible playing conditions, that game would have 100 percent been postponed today. Dan Marino was the starting QB for Pitt, btw. If he couldn’t throw the ball in those conditions no one could have.
Back in the day when graduating and going to the NFL meant taking a pay cut.
Its crazy now with NIL some college players are earning cars worth more than what SMU payed their players total😂
Yes! The ironic thing is that today what SMU did is nothing different than what anyone else is doing.
SMU was way ahead of it’s time when it came to NIL.
Except there’s no way the NCAA would have given the death penalty to Texas or A&M, Baylor, etc
@@Dr-Alexander-The-Great The one thing that those had that that SMU didn’t have was a competitive media market that was willing to rat them out to make their careers.
Especially Oklahoma!
When the David Stanley story aired on Dallas TV.SMU's Program was finished,
Almost 40 years later and they still haven't recovered.
They finally recovered a few years ago, they have been ranked almost every year the past 3 or 4 years, they're in the teens this season. But before that they hadn't been since this death penalty.
My band teacher in high school went to SMU during this time, and only got to do marching band 1 year before they got the death penalty. He told me.about how to not get cut the marching band would try to get into as many parades and do as many guest appearances as possible.
How does SMU gst the DP, but not PENN STATE???
This is why.
@@RandallDenison What is why? Money payments to players is worse than molesting children ....btw longer than the SMU scandal.
@@ms.felonystrutter2472Because Penn State is a brand, a huge one at that. The NCAA is blatantly corrupt, they’ll use the DP on lower schools to look good for the media but will completely ignore any problems if it’s a big name school, because money talks.
The one thing u missed was other Texas schools were paying players as well
So was Notre Dame and other big schools.
You barely squeezed in Craig James at the end of this video - how could you possibly leave out Eric Dickerson? He and Craig James were key to SMU's National Championship and also key to why SMU got the Death Penalty.
Then Craig James winey son got Mike Leach fired. Tech was on the rise but he killed that
SMU got the death penalty for paying players, yet Penn State didn't see anywhere near the same punishment for harboring and protecting a serial child molester... all the way up to the top of the university. Penn State should not have a football team, even today.
Completely different set of circumstances. The criminal case (Sandusky) has been tried; it's not like PSU and the community at large knew for years and years what was going on. If so, don't you think something would have happened sooner? As in a backlash?? It wasn't until 2011 until the facts came out, and after the investigation, the NCAA realized that there was no lack of institutional control and wound up dropping the sanctions. Because they didn't have a case, or PSU would still be in deep sh!t.
SMU continued to press the issue even when approached with "hey, don't do this no more!" It's not like the NCAA went to Penn State in 1999 and told them to keep Sandusky, now an ex coach, off campus. Big difference there.
Is this Cody from alternate history hub? It has to be
That's what I'm thinking
Starting a video about college football with Black Moth Super Rainbow is craaaazy
It crazy now days what SMU was doing over 40 years ago is all legal now with NIL. I hope SMU is allowed to hang National Championship banners for there titles back then. Because now days this stuff is all legit to pay players.
They had a chance to stop and said they did stop. No way the NCAA was gonna let them get away with it
The NCAA let everyone else get away with it, even when they knew other schools were doing the same.
the 'woe is me, you picked on us" attitude is so tired. they had multiple, multiple warnings and their response was a finger & they continued.. zero sympathy here. but that's what people do now: break the law then cry foul for reason X.
Their real crime was not being a power 5 school.
SMU was just ahead of it’s time playing players 😂
It was called the Southwest Conference. Why were you showing images of Gov. Mark White and calling him Gov. Bill Clements?
He got a few facts wrong.
They really gave SMU the Treaty of Versailles
SMU would be perfectly legal today even in that time Florida State University was just as bad. Let’s also not forget the amount of violations Clemson University had during that same time that was just slightly less than SMU’s
They were 4 decades ahead of their time
A whole bunch of snitches back in the day 🤦🏻♂️
Uh, when you first mentioned Bill Clements, you showed Mark White, the man who beat Bill Clements in the 1982 election. Clements came back to win against White in 1986. Clements's second term has been described as his revenge on Texas for not reelecting him in '82.
How does Penn State still have a football program?
You have an amazing voice
So the school paid the players and that's what drove them to drugs. C'mon now that sounds like a stretch. It's unfortunate that they died but 2 players snitching on the school out of spite because they got injured warrants no sympathy or praise. Had they not gotten hurt I'm sure they wouldn't have said a word.
Dude sounds kinda like patrick Warburton
Don Meredith, Eric Dickerson, Harvey Armstrong, Kyle Rote, Emmanuel Sanders, Raymond Berry, Forrest Gregg all went to SMU
Cole Beasley, Emmanuel Sanders, Courtland Sutton, Rashee Rice
"Absolutely F**cking not" had me Dying
"and the NIL might ensure that no one ever will"
Michigan "hold my beer"
Dale Hansen dam near single-handedly sank SMU’s battleship
They were just ahead if their time by being so open about it.
And now with NIL kids make millions. These kids wont ever see that kind of money again
Arkansas got screwed by phantom pass interference call , never felt bad about SMU getting in trouble.
After Pedo State NCAA should have been forced to issue apologies to all schools who got the death penalty.
Shout out Dale Hansen!
Craig James killed who???
They can't stop SMU Spirit 🐎
Sooner Fan here. Smu 20, Texas 6??
So SMU was stupid
Texas and Texas A&M were doing the same thing the only difference is SMU payed more to the players.
Eric Dickerson kept the Pontiac Trans Am the Texas Aggies bought for him. 🤣
It doesn’t make sense that the ACC added SMU. Nobody in Dallas gives a rat’s ass about SMU unlike Texas A&M or Texas. It would be great if SMU won the ACC in football when they join.
I didn't know Patrick Warburton had a TH-cam channel.
Really gotta feel for Craig James.
And now teams do this legally under NIL lol
With nil SMU has just gone back to what it was. It’s literally in the rich privileged area of Dallas
Dude you’re about to explode
Go Ponies! Let’s win the ACC!
SMU was real life Wolf on Wall Street 😂
Did you not know ESPN did a 30 for 30 on this years ago? It's one of the best 30 for 30's
What is with this half-assed, low volume commentary?
Look now. NIL deals. lol. Crazy
What they going to do about Michigan three years cheating and nothing but three game Suspension O Boy ain't that special for the Coach
SMU got hosed. You don't think teams like Texas, Notre Dame, USC, weren't doing this? Of course they were. You think the ncaa didn't know this? Of course they did. This was a personal thing. Not sure why but how else do you explain it?
Why do you show Gov. Mark White every time you say Bill Clements???????
Now look at NCAA and NIL deal
They never recovered
Why would Missouri do this?
What'd he say about craig james?
OU got it in 90's
Miller Mark Johnson Susan Martin Christopher
In retrospect, SMU signaled the future.
go frogs!
"cheating" is now legal
It the right thing that they got the Death Penalty. It's paying players to come play for them. That's cheating and you couldn't do that
All the big schools do it. Alabama has been doing it for years now. But no one gets punished because they make the ncaa money. Smu doesn't.
@@thecensoredmuscle563 That's true
Yeah but they were singled out while others weren't punished at all.
How did Penn State “escape” their huge scandal with Sandusky??
This dude turns a great story into a boring monotone and has that gen z point of view too.
Must be why he left out so much key information
Old people always blaming the younger generation really pathetic
Damn you Dale Hansen. SMU died because of you. Every team does it. The really great teams just don't get caught or pay off the right people. I suppose they should have been better at cheating.
Sound like some Hateration to me.
Before the NIL era, I’d guarantee your average sec team was worse than smu ever was. They just got away with it.
Yep, the NCAA only cared when the big names went crying to them about teams like SMU and Marshall.
@@austin_l It’s pretty clear that the ncaa decides who’s allowed to do it and who’s not. It’s all about favoring certain teams for networks.
Penn state had peope that shouldve actually got the death penalty instead of prison, wtf
Charles Waggoner had Craig James and Dickerson on the bench, he hurt his knee, that’s when they came up with the 2 back backfield The Pony Express, before that them guys were on the bench.#Facts
Didn’t Eric Dickerson say that when he went to the NFL he basically took a pay cut?
yup
Yeah those kind of players were rare. Most recruits were lucky to get a 1000 bucks. I know someone in 2013 who was a 4 star recruit. His biggest bag offer was 7 grand
@@baronvonslambert It said 7 figures.
@@baronvonslambert 7,000 compared to what Eric Dickerson was being paid is pocket change. That’s the point he was trying to make. I knew a guy who played basketball a major university he made 2 million during his 4 years.
Trailblazers in recruiting strategy. They were doing NIL 40 years before the concept existed.
They could have had a few people knocked off and still not be dirtier than the NCAA.
This scandal did more than kill SMU football for two decades. It killed the entire Southwest Conference, led to the formation of the Big XII and helped cause all the downflow realignment drama issues there.
It didn't kill the Southwest Conference, the big schools purposely killed it in order to gain total control of Houston and DFW recruiting, just look at the SWC schools that were left out of the Big 12
SMU won the 1982 Southwest Conference title thanks to an unbelievably terrible pass interference call vs Arkansas.
Great memory, Bill. We should’ve won that year. Woo pig sooie
@@patrickhurley240 "oops"
Dude, it was a horrible call but was that 4th down?? You are assuming they would not have moved the ball if not for that play......stop crying.
@@patrickhurley240NOOOO, typical cry baby shit. That was a horrible call ..no doubt. However you are assuming SMU would not have moved the ball if not for that play, when the play before they hit a beautiful fade pattern in your joke defense. STOP CRYING
If your going to cry come over and water 💧 my lawn.
SMU class of '80 here -- I went to one game the whole time I was in school. I probably would have gone to more games but they insisted on playing in Texas Stadium. If they had played on campus I'm sure I'd have cared more about the football team. The school definitely did pay recruits, but they weren't the only school doing it.
I had a professor in college that graduated around the same time you did. She said you could always tell who the football players were because of the flashy cars they drove.
I can't believe how young Dale Hansen was in that clip. It's awesome that he's been breaking stories for so long.
There's always been something about that bastard I don't like.
@@weirdbeard63seems like he was a big weasel