Affiliate links for the amps in the video 👇🏼 Pioneer GM D9701 www.amazon.com/dp/B07RZ6JJLT/?tag=robertvega-20 Audiopipe apcle 1500 www.amazon.com/dp/B072X87CZ4/?tag=robertvega-20 Rockford Fosgate Prime 500 www.amazon.com/dp/B00BF6HYDE/?tag=robertvega-20 Alpine MRV M500 www.amazon.com/dp/B00BMR7UPS/?tag=robertvega-20 Taramps HD 3000 www.amazon.com/dp/B00DZGCH52/?tag=robertvega-20 Hifonics Zeus 2416 www.amazon.com/dp/B00T3VMTPQ/?tag=robertvega-20 Orion XTR 1000.1 www.amazon.com/dp/B00DDYY6XC/?tag=robertvega-20
I have people asking for a top list of amps all the time, this is a great one...well, except #3. I'm curious to see other options people here in the comments come up with. I know the Pioneer has been as cheap as $130 and that was an absolute steal! What a great time to be into car audio!
What's wrong with Hifonics you've had other amps on your dyno that missed there numbers and you still gave them the BigD stamp of approval I've always got the sense that my homie D is a bit brand BIASED
Hey Ive personally running a Prime mono 500 watt and 2 rockford 10" punches in a custom made truck box for my single cab and freakn thumps clean. My son has an Alpine mrv 500 mono powering 2 12" Rock Punches in a custom box and sounds amazing. I made both boxes ported and tuned to 36hz and couldnt be happier. My other son just turned 16 so hes got a Skar 500 mono amp pushn a 12" Rockford Punch but still in process of building box. Just got his license tuesday. We love this shit!
I have the pioneer 9701, picked it up for $140 and have it powering a single 12. I'm very happy with this amp, the only thing I don't like about it is that it doesn't have a subsonic filter, really wish pioneer had put a subsonic on them but other than that I have no complaints and would definitely recommend it myself
Man, I used to be a Pioneer,Kenwood,& Alpine fan in early 80’s till The Punch, Kicker, Orion, Hifonics came on the scene and ALL back then were “Quality” built stuff in the early days but like EVERYTHING in America they find a cheaper builder overseas!#SadbutTrue#🔊❤️@Nowuntu Fucwit
I just picked up 3 Orion XTR amps. Got the 2500D and 2 of the 1500.2. I tell you the power and clarity is insane. I have the 1500.2 on my mids/highs and is way more power than I needed. Best money spent.
I agree with number one. It reminds me of the old aII Rockford amps. It's simple, it's clean, it's reliable. It will do more than rated and it's built like a tank. Very good for the newbies all the way to the pros . 😎
I like my old Pioneer 760. It was the first amp installed in this car. It was given to me abused and in need of minor repair but it wasn't anything a little cold solder joint repair couldn't fix. It still works. I just don't have the alternator to run 3 or 4 amps. Thanks for the review!
I don’t usually comment on anything, but I’ll tell you what. I have a pioneer d8601 in my 92 Honda Accord. I bought it because I saw big d test it. I think I paid $120 on amazon a few years ago. Previously I had a 1200 watt hifonics Brutus that worked well for about 6 months. It dimmed my lights and was never as clean sounding as the pioneer. I’ve had kicker Cvx 15”, Lanzar pro 15, and fosgate p1 15” in the same sealed box in my back seat. I have Rockville 15 d4 now, because I wanted to see if they sucked as bad as I’ve seen and read. At this power level they don’t. I was so impressed by this sub amp that I bought the 4 channel amp , d8704 to rum my ct sounds meso 6x9s and alpine 6.5 s with old school German made mb quart tweets up front. Alpine deck. Daily. I’m not a spl competition guy. I crank it up every time I get in the car. I have 120 amp alternator. It hits hard and super clean and never gets warm , 4 gauge quality wire . Some songs can blur your vision. My rear view mirror is useless. I put half a tube of superglue on it and it lasts like 3 days
So, I really liked my Audiopipe APMI MIni 2k amps. I ran 2 one on each sub (SQ HDC3 15s) and they were awesome little amps for only $170 each. I pulled between 2200 and 2400 watts each on the meter. I even broke out a few times at over 5000 total watts. I switched to the Soundqubed 2250s and I don't pull as much power but they sound a little better.
the pioneers are legit , many people rave about skar but for the price and output the pioneer is a better choice over the rp1200 or rp1500 , the pioneers sound better and do more power on the lows , thats something the dyno dont show . also they are very reliable . good list , i own all of these other than the orion and different age hifonics
I have older alpine versions MRP 500 watt mono block amps and they still work great never any issues from purchase date. I use them on an Alpine 10” R series duel voice coil as one amp per coil 600 total output at 4 OHM. My amps stay cool all day long. Never clip or distort. Bought back in 2008.
About 15 years ago I got the old m450 version of that alpine. I did replace it recently to get more power, a bass knob and non spade terminals but it still works just fine. The new one is the power acoustik razor 2500 Ryan from budget gem or bust reviewed and I’m very impressed for under $100.
Way back I had dual Alpine 3541s running All Alpine tweeter’s, Alpine door speakers, & Alpine rear speakers and a Hifonics Zues (200x1) in my 93’ Foxbody Mustang 5.0 with (2) Kicker 15” subs and it was my “dream machine!” It screamed and boomed like no other!#🔊#Hifonics#Alpine#Kicker@Greg Blau
The Orion XTR class AB amps are pretty powerful too. After seeing Dereck's video of the 2500.1D, I recommended a friend on getting the Orion XTR500.2 class AB. He put it on a set of 10" Infinitys I sold him, and that little amp pounds the heck out them just as much as my trusty old PPI PC2150!!😳 They have them all the way up to 2,500 watt versions but haven't been seeing them much lately. Almost as if they're discontinuing the 2 channel class AB XTR amps. 😞 In any case, all the ones you talked about are great amps too. Excellent video Robert!! 👌
I know that people are going to tell me that I'm stupid for not getting an Orion, but I have owned MANY different car stereo setups over the years and I have ALWAYS had good experiences with Soundstream. My last Soundstream setup was a Reference 1000x4 on four of the old school round Kicker Solobaric 10s and it hit hard with tight bass and no distortion. Anyway, I have two Sundown Audio SA12D2s running at 1 ohm (in a 3/4" MDF double wall box that I built with a 6x12 Aeroport) on a Soundstream Rubicon Nano RN1.5000D and it sounds REALLY good on half gain. I paid $185 for the amp and while I'm SURE it makes nowhere near the 5000 watts max that it claims (it's rated 2500 watts RMS @ 1 ohm), but I wanted a 1 ohm stable amp. It's wired with a big 3 upgrade with all 0g OFC wire with reducers, and because I chose the more powerful model it NEVER overheats or cuts out. I got sick of using Maxi fuses, so I went with a 200A breaker this time and it's never tripped yet (knock on wood). That being said, I'd LOVE to have either an Orion HCCA or a Taramps 3000W for my next amp.
MAP1086 it would actually help. You always want to keep your gain as low as possible anyways to keep from introducing any extra unwanted noise and or distortion.
I love these top 5 top 10 type video's and what a solid list it is , IMO that Hifonics amp is a great deal for what your getting dollar for watt I think we're starting to pay a little to much to these amp dyno videos people have to factor in what your getting power\watt wise for the amount of money your spending if it misses it's numbers a little bit but is at a great price point then it's not that big of a deal Keep these great videos coming my guy #TeamHiFi
There are so many powerful budget amps under 200 bucks that actually meet or exceed ratings. Ive heard good things about the Skar amps, sound qubed, and plenty of small and powerful full bridge amps. There is also no shortage of big subs on the cheap that can take the power and sound decent. Used to be if u wanted a 1000 RMS sub u were spending $500 minimum now u can get a beast 12 for 150 bucks.
Great video! the Alpine is a good pick i thought abought buying one just to add to my collection they also have a 2 channel model that matches for $82 on amazon👍
I have a audiopipe 1800watts going strong for over 5yrs & multiple skar amps under $200each and well worth the price. As a old school bass head im amazed how good amps are for the money now.
The skar rp 1500 should of at least been on this list for it not only help put Skar Audio on the map but EVERYONE in the bass scene has used it including myself or has recommended it...due to its reliability, decent sound, and well under rated for roughly 175 dollars.... bass heads from all around...skar is the go to brand for everyone from beginners and experience... great video like always bro
Do you consider having HPF and LPF filters and the filters' slopes as part of your criteria? To me, besides honest power figures..... those are pretty important features because if you have good crossovers, you might be able to eliminate other equipment upstream of the amplifiers. Curious. Thanks for posting! Interesting group of amplifiers.
On sub amps not so much, but on 4 channels amps that’s certainly a major consideration depending on what you’re trying to do with your set up and what other equipment you already have.
If there is a new prime series... It will be the 3rd gen.. Thanks for the list.. You called audiopipe an alpine.. On the last count down.. Its cool lets us know your digging what u do
I have a ZRX Hifonics myself, figured I'd try a 1500.1 or 1800.1 about 6yrs ago and it is still on the trunk slamming on max gain the entire time. Def been a pretty strong amp imo, and im old lol. Yes JL, Sundown etc is going to be better, but these HiFi aren't too bad for cheap power.
What does the build quality feel like because at that price I know that every manufacturer you mentioned will just swap out the amp instead of trying to repair it but what about when the warranty runs out do you think they would be worth having them repaired? That’s why I mentioned build quality. Do you think they will hold up over the next few years. I have amps that are well over 20 years and still going strong. Great video my friend.
Carlton Miller I say for sure the Pioneer/Alpine/RF amps are built very well and should last a while. The others are really up for debate, but they also do the most power so it’s a balancing act.
Missed out on Belva 3000d. 1800 watts at 1 ohm. Around $150-$170. Actually obliterated my Audiopipe BDC4. Which is why I've sworn off AP and swear by Belva!
Skar 800.1d and Skar 1500.1d are my budget picks. I bought a brand new 800.1d for $150 shipped. I'm BLOWN AWAY how loud it is on 2 cheap 10" subs. (Skar SDR-10d4 at $90/each) i'd go so far as to say it's comparable to my last set-up. (JL Audio 500/1 on 2 Sundown SA-12d4) Droppin' Quad boyyyy!
Skar rp1500, toro r5, tarampa hd3000, ct sounds t1500/1000, and even tho they arent the best ampa the soundstream tarantula4k is pretty damn good numbers for right at 200. Budget rp2000 basically. Not bashing any of your picks but i go price vs watts and the alpine and rockfords cost too much per watt to just have nicer crossovers basically..
I'd like to know, are these recommended just basiscally on their output or the quality of the output? I am not an SPL fan, I prefer SQ. But since no one really does SQ tests on the internet, and just loudness, which are these rated for?
MisterEE100 I try to straddle the line of power and sound. I think they all sound pretty good ok subs with the exception of the Taramps HD it’s more of a power amp to my ears. I’ve heard the new smart 3’s sound pretty good tho...
So i have the audio planet pl1500.1m amp installed on the back of my box with 2 alpine 12" bassline subs. Everything is ran professionally. Could i just unplug the pl1500.1m and install the pioneer gmd-9070. This is my first system and from the dyno numbers ive seen it should be a pretty big difference. Hopefully icould just use the existing wiring and bass remote and just plug into the pioneer.
I prefer Rockford not only because they’re built in my home state, they build stuff to withstand our temps in the summer 104*F+ they show how durable and well engineered they are. (Call me bias)
Love RF. I have a RF prime 1200 amp powering 1 Sundown SA-12 and that shit hits hard. The price is fair to what you're actually getting since the RF amps do more than what they are rated.
I love what you do hi5 Vega. The hi phonics is no where is close to what it’s rated. Have Dino it myself. The last one is a crap amp they burn up. Unless you get the smart one the new one. Believe me it’s worth a little extra money. They are actually getting to be pretty decent. And they exceed their rating. They are a little weird the way they test. Keep up the good work love you and big D
Loved it! Some of the dual Korean amps should at least get a mention. Love to see some vids on efficiency for under 300 in a sub amp! I'm hinting for a car amp for my garage and dont have a lot of current capability. So I may be a little bias
Good call. I have the LP1000.1 and it's a good amp for the$. I replaced it with a RF punch 1000.1bd which is much more $ but much more amp and the C. L. E. A. N feature is the real deal.
HifiVega I’ve heard there’s a voltage issue with it and the gain has to be set different for 1 and 2 ohm. I can’t really explain it but there was a video on it
I just bought a Taramps md8000.1 2 ohm to power my 3 American bass TNT 15s. Had to get two runs of 3/0 welding wire to feed it enuff amperage and voltage.
@@jeremys8360 all welding cable is ofc 3/0 is just a bit bigger than oversized 1/0 car audio power wire. Each run can carry 450 amps and the md8k pulls just under 900 amps full tilt with a sine wave. I used welding wire cause it's under my truck along frame rail and welding wire has a better insulator in my opinion. Think it'll be better since it's exposed . Can't wait to get everything done so I can get sim videos up. Have videos of my old setup on my channel, 4 soundqubed 8s on 3k.
Sundown SFB 1000d. Best deal for sure for quality and power. Also skar had class D under 200 and ct sounds has a 700 rms class D for about 140. But can’t believe the sundown didn’t make the cut. I hate that the pioneer doesn’t have hpf or lpf. And I own a Zeus amp it’s the 3200 watt but I have always wondered what the true power, if I could go back I would definitely order a different amp that actually does it’s rated power.
Frank Guerra fill me in boys. Im looking for a budget friendly build. Thinking old school amp vs new school. MTX thunder series was badass. Whatever happen to Lanzar? Zappo eq? Use to make some expensive ass shit
@@yapaul6226 I don't know about those.i had always just stayed with kicker JBL .there was one that had a weird ass name that started with a h . That one was a Russian name or something.even the subwoofers back then I had me some bmf's. An one of those Kenwood 5 band eq.. now that was a bad ass eq ,I thought it was .good luck to u bro
Some other amps that i think are good for under 200 would be the skar rp1500.1, the new sfb1000, and its on sale right now but the alphard machete 1500.1
I'm tryna look for an amp to power 2 Sony explodes 12s I got 2500 power acoustik amp running it rn but everytime I turn up the gain it cuts off and cuts back on everytime it hits I'm just tryna get sum thats gonna run good thanks in advance
Performance Teknique ICBM-MONSTER 6000 wish you could do a dyno test on one of these sold mines in 2008 good amp for the money and well built, way better than Planet Audio, Pyle, Pyramid, Rockwood, DHD, Jenson.
i know it was a while now since you made this video but i would love it if you can dyno the lanzar vector 6000 watt amp its surpringly cheap under $150 which is crazy so def would love that amp to be dyno and if you can give your thoughts on it thanks
Right now DS18's "Black Diamond" put out some really good looking amplifiers called the DIA-P1500x1D and the DIA2000x1D any way possible you could reach out to them to dyno these? I'm really interested in these!
That taramps is better for playing midrange speakers. If you want bass use taramps bass line of amps. If you want to play midbass/midrange use the HD or DSP line of amps
I have a 12in kicker comp s 4ohm 300w rms and I’m looking for a good amp that can handle had. An audio shop in my area said ds18 amp that’s 1500w would be good but it looks really cheap. Thank you for the video would you recommend anything?
What about the Soundstream AR8000.1D overrated but makes 2K RMS at 1 ohm for way less than $200.00. Or maybe these don't have the best reputation for being reliable? I've yet to hood mine up.
solid vid bro! Although, i'd pass on the monoblock zeus series. Its the brutus series monoblocks that come close to rated. I have the Brutus BXX.2400.1d you can find them around 199$ new. Got mine for 120$ on a Amazon Warehouse deal. Its done me solid for over a year now. Ill get some extensive footage up with my termlab doing some runs on it. But so far its producing!!! It did 765 watts at 1.6 ohms, but at 10.2 volts!!! so correction would be 1524 watts at 14.4. solid board too, got the guts in one of my video uploads; if anyone else wants to check it out!!!
HifiVega ya I was doing some torture tests in my sons powers wheels build, trying to get a worse case scenario number when we take it to shows!! I need to get a solid battery though for his build. Just don’t have the space for a decent agm that can take 1000 watts constant for 30 seconds and fit in an 8 by 10 inch cube. The hunt continues.. 🤷🏻♂️oh and my hifonics Brutus bxx2400.1d doesn’t have onboard fuses. It suggests a 250amp external fuse. So big difference from Zeus
It doesn’t make a big difference for me because I don’t listen to any rebassed music or bass tracks and most music doesn’t dip into the 20’s or lower. If you do happen to listen to those and don’t have a dsp or external crossover this might not be the amp for you
Sounds great with ported setup thats what i got and man all i get is clean bass. Got my gain set to h level frequency 40 hz and bass boost 0 level and hits hard and sounds great.
I love the GM 9601. I have 3 installed running 6 DVC 12s @ 1ohm... I run 2 Polk PA2000.2 for mids and highs @2ohm... I'm curious of the output of the Polk Audio running mids and highs at 2ohm... I never see an amp dyno for a full range, mids and highs class A-B or running a 2 ch class D for mids...
Had Zeus they are half their rating true rms so if a Zeus says 2400, it's 1200rms. Did it have fuses? Also I remember reading straight from hifonics years ago it's half.
I've had both the Alpine 500 and Prime 500, the RF in real world, in car killed the Alpine. Hell my Prime 500 ran 2 Skar SDR18-D4'S to a 138.7 SEALED enclosure running a sweep.
When I was starting out for the second time, I picked up the pioneer from Walmart n it held out. Even after bridging at 2 ohms haha bitch got hot af but it worked. Seems like soo long n soo much $ ago. Good stuff bro thanks for sharing
Do you recommend a cheap small amp? My wife wants me to put a sub in her car now that she heard my savard 6.5. I was thinking maybe just 200-300 watts. Great video as well!👍
I mean one of the first brands I’d say is RF, but you should check out Kicker, Pioneer and Alpine they all offer budget lines that have been pretty tough in my experience
Best amp u can buy for money BAR-NONE, is the Soundqubed s4-100. It does 200 watts x 4 @2 and i believe around 140 @4. Big D has a dyno vid. I just bought one myself. i think u can get for 159 if u look around def find it for 179 bout anywhere. others: audiopipe 4080, dual da84, and the rockville db45. the soundqubed is as compact as u could want, the rockville is a lil big and the audiopipe has heat issues. Also u might like taramps 800.4 for 149$
i actually would make that the best top 5 budget 4 channels! Ha! Curious what Vega thinks of my advice and amps mentioned and what would u replace w/what other amp? I think e would DEF agree with me on these being some of very best for price u could buy!
Zixyr on high powered amps 4ga inputs will force you to use reducers or actual 4ga and can limit the output of the amp depending on the length of the 4ga.
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Affiliate links for the amps in the video 👇🏼
Pioneer GM D9701
www.amazon.com/dp/B07RZ6JJLT/?tag=robertvega-20
Audiopipe apcle 1500
www.amazon.com/dp/B072X87CZ4/?tag=robertvega-20
Rockford Fosgate Prime 500
www.amazon.com/dp/B00BF6HYDE/?tag=robertvega-20
Alpine MRV M500
www.amazon.com/dp/B00BMR7UPS/?tag=robertvega-20
Taramps HD 3000
www.amazon.com/dp/B00DZGCH52/?tag=robertvega-20
Hifonics Zeus 2416
www.amazon.com/dp/B00T3VMTPQ/?tag=robertvega-20
Orion XTR 1000.1
www.amazon.com/dp/B00DDYY6XC/?tag=robertvega-20
Damn bro. Amp sold out
Pioneer amp sold out. Went to check
Yapaul Aung it seems like it got popular
When is best cool temp amps?
I love my pioneer amp from Best Buy!!!! I have 2 Channels for bass and other 2 for voices!!
I have people asking for a top list of amps all the time, this is a great one...well, except #3. I'm curious to see other options people here in the comments come up with. I know the Pioneer has been as cheap as $130 and that was an absolute steal! What a great time to be into car audio!
Williston Audio Labs #3 a divisive pick fo sho!
@@HifiVega if you're going with Hifonics and i do,Brutus is the best line to buy
@@rickmathews6044 i used to own a brutus back in day. I didnt liike how they had the spade connectors
What's wrong with Hifonics you've had other amps on your dyno that missed there numbers and you still gave them the BigD stamp of approval I've always got the sense that my homie D is a bit brand BIASED
Waving (no handshakes) Big D Wiz.✋
Hey Ive personally running a Prime mono 500 watt and 2 rockford 10" punches in a custom made truck box for my single cab and freakn thumps clean.
My son has an Alpine mrv 500 mono powering 2 12" Rock Punches in a custom box and sounds amazing. I made both boxes ported and tuned to 36hz and couldnt be happier. My other son just turned 16 so hes got a Skar 500 mono amp pushn a 12" Rockford Punch but still in process of building box. Just got his license tuesday. We love this shit!
I have the pioneer 9701, picked it up for $140 and have it powering a single 12. I'm very happy with this amp, the only thing I don't like about it is that it doesn't have a subsonic filter, really wish pioneer had put a subsonic on them but other than that I have no complaints and would definitely recommend it myself
Man, I used to be a Pioneer,Kenwood,& Alpine fan in early 80’s till The Punch, Kicker, Orion, Hifonics came on the scene and ALL back then were “Quality” built stuff in the early days but like EVERYTHING in America they find a cheaper builder overseas!#SadbutTrue#🔊❤️@Nowuntu Fucwit
I just picked up 3 Orion XTR amps. Got the 2500D and 2 of the 1500.2. I tell you the power and clarity is insane. I have the 1500.2 on my mids/highs and is way more power than I needed. Best money spent.
And don't forget that orion amps are test at 12v
One thing I really like about the Orion and Taramps is that they're rated at 12 volts also. Good picks.
I hear complaints of the smart 3 having vocals to subs is it true.
YES !!! hell yeah, finally some Pioneer luv!! I have the 9701 pushing my two JL TW3 12'S in my Silverado single cab and it sounds great!!
scuff Pioneer like Wu-Tang!
HifiVega how long have you been running that amp. I’d like to know if it’s something that will hold up over the long haul.
harleiux12 the 9701 not very long, but I know of plenty of people who have used the 9601 and 8601 for many years without a single issue.
Pioneer Premiere series is up there
I got the Rockford Fosgate Prime as a swap for the older version. Love it.
I agree with number one. It reminds me of the old aII Rockford amps. It's simple, it's clean, it's reliable. It will do more than rated and it's built like a tank. Very good for the newbies all the way to the pros . 😎
Fo sho
Do pioneer get hot easily
I like my old Pioneer 760. It was the first amp installed in this car.
It was given to me abused and in need of minor repair but it wasn't anything a little cold solder joint repair couldn't fix.
It still works. I just don't have the alternator to run 3 or 4 amps.
Thanks for the review!
I don’t usually comment on anything, but I’ll tell you what. I have a pioneer d8601 in my 92 Honda Accord. I bought it because I saw big d test it. I think I paid $120 on amazon a few years ago. Previously I had a 1200 watt hifonics Brutus that worked well for about 6 months. It dimmed my lights and was never as clean sounding as the pioneer. I’ve had kicker Cvx 15”, Lanzar pro 15, and fosgate p1 15” in the same sealed box in my back seat. I have Rockville 15 d4 now, because I wanted to see if they sucked as bad as I’ve seen and read. At this power level they don’t. I was so impressed by this sub amp that I bought the 4 channel amp , d8704 to rum my ct sounds meso 6x9s and alpine 6.5 s with old school German made mb quart tweets up front. Alpine deck. Daily. I’m not a spl competition guy. I crank it up every time I get in the car. I have 120 amp alternator. It hits hard and super clean and never gets warm , 4 gauge quality wire . Some songs can blur your vision. My rear view mirror is useless. I put half a tube of superglue on it and it lasts like 3 days
They’re great amps imo!
I have the pionder 9705 moving all my daily driver sound system, i am not disapointed, solid power
So, I really liked my Audiopipe APMI MIni 2k amps. I ran 2 one on each sub (SQ HDC3 15s) and they were awesome little amps for only $170 each. I pulled between 2200 and 2400 watts each on the meter. I even broke out a few times at over 5000 total watts. I switched to the Soundqubed 2250s and I don't pull as much power but they sound a little better.
the pioneers are legit , many people rave about skar but for the price and output the pioneer is a better choice over the rp1200 or rp1500 , the pioneers sound better and do more power on the lows , thats something the dyno dont show . also they are very reliable . good list , i own all of these other than the orion and different age hifonics
I've had the pioneer and loved it it's super cheap and powerful
I have older alpine versions MRP 500 watt mono block amps and they still work great never any issues from purchase date. I use them on an Alpine 10” R series duel voice coil as one amp per coil 600 total output at 4 OHM. My amps stay cool all day long. Never clip or distort. Bought back in 2008.
The S series Soundqubed amps have really impressed me!
About 15 years ago I got the old m450 version of that alpine. I did replace it recently to get more power, a bass knob and non spade terminals but it still works just fine. The new one is the power acoustik razor 2500 Ryan from budget gem or bust reviewed and I’m very impressed for under $100.
Way back I had dual Alpine 3541s running All Alpine tweeter’s, Alpine door speakers, & Alpine rear speakers and a Hifonics Zues (200x1) in my 93’ Foxbody Mustang 5.0 with (2) Kicker 15” subs and it was my “dream machine!” It screamed and boomed like no other!#🔊#Hifonics#Alpine#Kicker@Greg Blau
The Orion XTR class AB amps are pretty powerful too. After seeing Dereck's video of the 2500.1D, I recommended a friend on getting the Orion XTR500.2 class AB. He put it on a set of 10" Infinitys I sold him, and that little amp pounds the heck out them just as much as my trusty old PPI PC2150!!😳 They have them all the way up to 2,500 watt versions but haven't been seeing them much lately. Almost as if they're discontinuing the 2 channel class AB XTR amps. 😞 In any case, all the ones you talked about are great amps too. Excellent video Robert!! 👌
Danny Caballero yeah I’ve seen a few of those around and they huge!
I got that pioneer 9701 with 2 american bass elite wired to 1 ohm box tuned to 40 hz and im impressed hitting hard and never overheats.
I know that people are going to tell me that I'm stupid for not getting an Orion, but I have owned MANY different car stereo setups over the years and I have ALWAYS had good experiences with Soundstream. My last Soundstream setup was a Reference 1000x4 on four of the old school round Kicker Solobaric 10s and it hit hard with tight bass and no distortion. Anyway, I have two Sundown Audio SA12D2s running at 1 ohm (in a 3/4" MDF double wall box that I built with a 6x12 Aeroport) on a Soundstream Rubicon Nano RN1.5000D and it sounds REALLY good on half gain. I paid $185 for the amp and while I'm SURE it makes nowhere near the 5000 watts max that it claims (it's rated 2500 watts RMS @ 1 ohm), but I wanted a 1 ohm stable amp. It's wired with a big 3 upgrade with all 0g OFC wire with reducers, and because I chose the more powerful model it NEVER overheats or cuts out. I got sick of using Maxi fuses, so I went with a 200A breaker this time and it's never tripped yet (knock on wood). That being said, I'd LOVE to have either an Orion HCCA or a Taramps 3000W for my next amp.
Never Thought a PIONEER Amp Would Score Higher Than an ORION Amp, wow!!!
These models were pretty close before the Pioneer started raising the prices
Skar RP series are the absolute best under $200 no doubt
They definitely seem to do over rated everytime. I haven’t gotten a lot of play time with one yet
Thanks. My alpine pdx just went red after 5 years of faithful use. What a great place to start. Is the taramp too much for one alpine type r 12?
Anthony Stinnett probably, but you could always dial the gain back and have some extra juice ready when you wanna upgrade.
MAP1086 it would actually help. You always want to keep your gain as low as possible anyways to keep from introducing any extra unwanted noise and or distortion.
I love these top 5 top 10 type video's and what a solid list it is , IMO that Hifonics amp is a great deal for what your getting dollar for watt I think we're starting to pay a little to much to these amp dyno videos people have to factor in what your getting power\watt wise for the amount of money your spending if it misses it's numbers a little bit but is at a great price point then it's not that big of a deal Keep these great videos coming my guy #TeamHiFi
There are so many powerful budget amps under 200 bucks that actually meet or exceed ratings. Ive heard good things about the Skar amps, sound qubed, and plenty of small and powerful full bridge amps. There is also no shortage of big subs on the cheap that can take the power and sound decent. Used to be if u wanted a 1000 RMS sub u were spending $500 minimum now u can get a beast 12 for 150 bucks.
Great video! the Alpine is a good pick i thought abought buying one just to add to my collection they also have a 2 channel model that matches for $82 on amazon👍
eric dudley Thanks! It is a solid amp for sure
I have a audiopipe 1800watts going strong for over 5yrs & multiple skar amps under $200each and well worth the price. As a old school bass head im amazed how good amps are for the money now.
So much cheaper than they were 20yrs ago......more watts for your money....subs too
Thanks for this! I was wondering about the lower priced amps and how they perform.
I lucked into a Wolfram C2400.1 for $159 during Colin's scavenger hunt!
Eric Warnock that’s a deal!
needs battery efficiency sucks
The skar rp 1500 should of at least been on this list for it not only help put Skar Audio on the map but EVERYONE in the bass scene has used it including myself or has recommended it...due to its reliability, decent sound, and well under rated for roughly 175 dollars.... bass heads from all around...skar is the go to brand for everyone from beginners and experience... great video like always bro
I got 3 skars rp1200,rp1500,rp2000 and I love them all
Do you consider having HPF and LPF filters and the filters' slopes as part of your criteria? To me, besides honest power figures..... those are pretty important features because if you have good crossovers, you might be able to eliminate other equipment upstream of the amplifiers. Curious. Thanks for posting! Interesting group of amplifiers.
On sub amps not so much, but on 4 channels amps that’s certainly a major consideration depending on what you’re trying to do with your set up and what other equipment you already have.
Honorable mention should go out to the Skar Rp20001 0 gauge terminals metal bass knob and does well over 2000 watts for 212 dollars.
The orion amps come with a birth sheet that tells how much it put out when tested before shipping
If there is a new prime series... It will be the 3rd gen..
Thanks for the list.. You called audiopipe an alpine.. On the last count down.. Its cool lets us know your digging what u do
Bobdodge yeah I added in a text correction I didn’t have time to redo that portion before release 😬
I have a ZRX Hifonics myself, figured I'd try a 1500.1 or 1800.1 about 6yrs ago and it is still on the trunk slamming on max gain the entire time. Def been a pretty strong amp imo, and im old lol. Yes JL, Sundown etc is going to be better, but these HiFi aren't too bad for cheap power.
My hifonics works great for already 2 years and it is powerful
Thanks to videos like this every one of these amps is 200$ or better except the audio pipe and the Rockford
Amazon be doing that
What does the build quality feel like because at that price I know that every manufacturer you mentioned will just swap out the amp instead of trying to repair it but what about when the warranty runs out do you think they would be worth having them repaired? That’s why I mentioned build quality. Do you think they will hold up over the next few years. I have amps that are well over 20 years and still going strong. Great video my friend.
Carlton Miller I say for sure the Pioneer/Alpine/RF amps are built very well and should last a while. The others are really up for debate, but they also do the most power so it’s a balancing act.
I got an Orion XTR 650.1d on a F Audio 10 at 1 Ohm and it slaps. Would definitely be curious how much power it's making since it's only $130.
Missed out on Belva 3000d. 1800 watts at 1 ohm. Around $150-$170. Actually obliterated my Audiopipe BDC4. Which is why I've sworn off AP and swear by Belva!
Skar 800.1d and Skar 1500.1d are my budget picks. I bought a brand new 800.1d for $150 shipped. I'm BLOWN AWAY how loud it is on 2 cheap 10" subs. (Skar SDR-10d4 at $90/each) i'd go so far as to say it's comparable to my last set-up. (JL Audio 500/1 on 2 Sundown SA-12d4) Droppin' Quad boyyyy!
Not great for pushing 12s though. Just upgraded from a 10 in to 12 and have to turn the gain up more than I like
Great picks.... I like the lineup a lot!!!
Basshead Go Boom! Thanks!
Skar rp1500, toro r5, tarampa hd3000, ct sounds t1500/1000, and even tho they arent the best ampa the soundstream tarantula4k is pretty damn good numbers for right at 200. Budget rp2000 basically. Not bashing any of your picks but i go price vs watts and the alpine and rockfords cost too much per watt to just have nicer crossovers basically..
The zrx2416.1d DOES not have 1/0 inputs..but it is a very solid amp and its discontinued
I'd like to know, are these recommended just basiscally on their output or the quality of the output? I am not an SPL fan, I prefer SQ. But since no one really does SQ tests on the internet, and just loudness, which are these rated for?
MisterEE100 I try to straddle the line of power and sound. I think they all sound pretty good ok subs with the exception of the Taramps HD it’s more of a power amp to my ears. I’ve heard the new smart 3’s sound pretty good tho...
What do you think about MTX? Their amps have always been underrated, and you can get a thunder 500 for less than$200.
I haven’t tried much new MTX, but they’ve always been great in the past
So i have the audio planet pl1500.1m amp installed on the back of my box with 2 alpine 12" bassline subs. Everything is ran professionally. Could i just unplug the pl1500.1m and install the pioneer gmd-9070. This is my first system and from the dyno numbers ive seen it should be a pretty big difference. Hopefully icould just use the existing wiring and bass remote and just plug into the pioneer.
Dude that orion amp just is so sweet
I had that PRIME 500 on a SOUNDQUBED 15 and that slapped
I prefer Rockford not only because they’re built in my home state, they build stuff to withstand our temps in the summer 104*F+ they show how durable and well engineered they are. (Call me bias)
Love RF. I have a RF prime 1200 amp powering 1 Sundown SA-12 and that shit hits hard. The price is fair to what you're actually getting since the RF amps do more than what they are rated.
I run a Toby Hitman on a Pioneer gmdx975 in my sons Tahoe. Stupid loud for the amount of sub power output.
I love what you do hi5 Vega. The hi phonics is no where is close to what it’s rated. Have Dino it myself. The last one is a crap amp they burn up. Unless you get the smart one the new one. Believe me it’s worth a little extra money. They are actually getting to be pretty decent. And they exceed their rating. They are a little weird the way they test. Keep up the good work love you and big D
Stetsom has a nice line up of amps at different price points.
Power Acoustik RZ1-3500D.. thoughts? It's going for less than $150!..
Loved it! Some of the dual Korean amps should at least get a mention. Love to see some vids on efficiency for under 300 in a sub amp! I'm hinting for a car amp for my garage and dont have a lot of current capability. So I may be a little bias
Those little dual amps are pretty impressive.
Skar audio bro! Several amps from the rp series and the lp series for under 200 bucks.
Good call. I have the LP1000.1 and it's a good amp for the$. I replaced it with a RF punch 1000.1bd which is much more $ but much more amp and the C. L. E. A. N feature is the real deal.
I agree hifonics should never even be on the list.
@@hellraiserharry Hifonics is garbage nowadays nothing of what it used to be
Skar Audio. 😏👍
@@alextownsend3264 Nice 👈😁amp.
AWESOME VIDEO AS ALWAYS BROTHER!!!
Thanks!
I'm currently running a Taramps on a Skar VXF 12 at 2 ohms and I love it.Havent had 1 problem yet with it.
DA BEARDSMEN I’m really digging the smart 3 now. Makes me wanna pull the trigger and get one
HifiVega I’ve heard there’s a voltage issue with it and the gain has to be set different for 1 and 2 ohm. I can’t really explain it but there was a video on it
I just bought a Taramps md8000.1 2 ohm to power my 3 American bass TNT 15s. Had to get two runs of 3/0 welding wire to feed it enuff amperage and voltage.
erik hall I hope it was ofc wire
@@jeremys8360 all welding cable is ofc 3/0 is just a bit bigger than oversized 1/0 car audio power wire. Each run can carry 450 amps and the md8k pulls just under 900 amps full tilt with a sine wave. I used welding wire cause it's under my truck along frame rail and welding wire has a better insulator in my opinion. Think it'll be better since it's exposed . Can't wait to get everything done so I can get sim videos up. Have videos of my old setup on my channel, 4 soundqubed 8s on 3k.
Sundown SFB 1000d. Best deal for sure for quality and power. Also skar had class D under 200 and ct sounds has a 700 rms class D for about 140. But can’t believe the sundown didn’t make the cut. I hate that the pioneer doesn’t have hpf or lpf. And I own a Zeus amp it’s the 3200 watt but I have always wondered what the true power, if I could go back I would definitely order a different amp that actually does it’s rated power.
My fav def Orion or hifonics, old school stuff, alpha sonic delta sonic, I’ve even had JVC amp that was stronger than ever expected
Hell yeah.i love the old school amps.back then they had more kick then what they where supose to..
Frank Guerra fill me in boys. Im looking for a budget friendly build. Thinking old school amp vs new school. MTX thunder series was badass. Whatever happen to Lanzar? Zappo eq? Use to make some expensive ass shit
@@yapaul6226 I don't know about those.i had always just stayed with kicker JBL .there was one that had a weird ass name that started with a h . That one was a Russian name or something.even the subwoofers back then I had me some bmf's. An one of those Kenwood 5 band eq.. now that was a bad ass eq ,I thought it was .good luck to u bro
Rockville makes some nice amps at below 200 sometimes on their website u can get clearance deals too db15 in particular 1500 watts at 2 ohms
What do you think about skar and sound digital amps. And which ampndo you recommend for 6 mr speakers and which amp for a single 800-1000 watt sub
Hello friend! Do you know a good chinese amplifiers in aliexpress to buy? Thanks.
I was think can you put a 1500 watt amp on a 1200 subwoofer?
Some other amps that i think are good for under 200 would be the skar rp1500.1, the new sfb1000, and its on sale right now but the alphard machete 1500.1
Do a 4 channel amp video now! Great stuff!
In fact do a five channel amp, please 🙏
I'm tryna look for an amp to power 2 Sony explodes 12s I got 2500 power acoustik amp running it rn but everytime I turn up the gain it cuts off and cuts back on everytime it hits I'm just tryna get sum thats gonna run good thanks in advance
Performance Teknique ICBM-MONSTER 6000 wish you could do a dyno test on one of these sold mines in 2008 good amp for the money and well built, way better than Planet Audio, Pyle, Pyramid, Rockwood, DHD, Jenson.
i know it was a while now since you made this video but i would love it if you can dyno the lanzar vector 6000 watt amp its surpringly cheap under $150 which is crazy so def would love that amp to be dyno and if you can give your thoughts on it thanks
Which amp Pioneer or Orion has the best damping factor at the lowest at 1 ohm?
Excellent video sir.
anvil schneider thanks!
How come you change Numbers, into Fractions ??
Looking to put some sound in my Nissan Altima SR
No NVX amps? they have 2 monoblocks under 200, would much prefer NVX over audio pipe and hifonics.
Good video. I'm leaning towards 2 pioneers. 1 on each 12s
Right now DS18's "Black Diamond" put out some really good looking amplifiers called the DIA-P1500x1D and the DIA2000x1D any way possible you could reach out to them to dyno these? I'm really interested in these!
They look like decent amps
I just got a couple alpine 10in. Dual voice coil subs. I'm pretty sure they're 300 watt rms running 4ohm resistance. What amp would be good with that?
The pioneer or the Orion
That taramps is better for playing midrange speakers. If you want bass use taramps bass line of amps. If you want to play midbass/midrange use the HD or DSP line of amps
U the man thanks for showing me about those amps😎
Thanks for watching!
I have a 12in kicker comp s 4ohm 300w rms and I’m looking for a good amp that can handle had. An audio shop in my area said ds18 amp that’s 1500w would be good but it looks really cheap. Thank you for the video would you recommend anything?
Check out the Alpine or the RF Prime or the a Kicker cxa
Performance Teknique ICBM-MONSTER 6000 VERY UNDERRATED.
wow thats a old amp , made in 2007 lol
Yep but no one shows love to that amp really nice amp
@@samueljackson2478 it was decent for the time period for budget amps
Same with Oldschool Us Acoustics , Laser Audio, Alphasonik, Alumapro, hlabs
If you can still find them they very good starter amps way better than, Planet audio, boss, Rockwood, dhd, Pyle, pyramid, coustic.
Big D said the SAM-500 was $189 & did 588 watts. Prolly should be a 3 way tie for 5th.
Audiopipe ever❤❤
What about the Soundstream AR8000.1D overrated but makes 2K RMS at 1 ohm for way less than $200.00. Or maybe these don't have the best reputation for being reliable? I've yet to hood mine up.
I haven’t had any personal experience with that series yet that’s why I didn’t include it
Do you think any of your top 5 are good starter amps
They all are imo
solid vid bro! Although, i'd pass on the monoblock zeus series. Its the brutus series monoblocks that come close to rated. I have the Brutus BXX.2400.1d you can find them around 199$ new. Got mine for 120$ on a Amazon Warehouse deal. Its done me solid for over a year now. Ill get some extensive footage up with my termlab doing some runs on it. But so far its producing!!! It did 765 watts at 1.6 ohms, but at 10.2 volts!!! so correction would be 1524 watts at 14.4. solid board too, got the guts in one of my video uploads; if anyone else wants to check it out!!!
10.2v you playing a dangerous game lol
HifiVega ya I was doing some torture tests in my sons powers wheels build, trying to get a worse case scenario number when we take it to shows!! I need to get a solid battery though for his build. Just don’t have the space for a decent agm that can take 1000 watts constant for 30 seconds and fit in an 8 by 10 inch cube. The hunt continues.. 🤷🏻♂️oh and my hifonics Brutus bxx2400.1d doesn’t have onboard fuses. It suggests a 250amp external fuse. So big difference from Zeus
How would the pioneer do with a ported setup? I ask because it seems to lack a subsonic knob.
It doesn’t make a big difference for me because I don’t listen to any rebassed music or bass tracks and most music doesn’t dip into the 20’s or lower. If you do happen to listen to those and don’t have a dsp or external crossover this might not be the amp for you
Sounds great with ported setup thats what i got and man all i get is clean bass. Got my gain set to h level frequency 40 hz and bass boost 0 level and hits hard and sounds great.
Alpine mrv-mv500 recommends 4 gauge. I run 8 gauge through mrv-m250. Can i use same 8 gauge with 500's recommended 4 gauge?
B. ALBERt you could, but it mostly depends on how long a run of 8ga you plan on using.
I have a pioneer ts-1200m sub and I don’t know what amp I should get, what would you recommend
Hmmm for that sub I’d consider the RF prime
I love the GM 9601. I have 3 installed running 6 DVC 12s @ 1ohm...
I run 2 Polk PA2000.2 for mids and highs @2ohm...
I'm curious of the output of the Polk Audio running mids and highs at 2ohm...
I never see an amp dyno for a full range, mids and highs class A-B or running a 2 ch class D for mids...
th-cam.com/video/sDRamutPAec/w-d-xo.html
... dont you think the results may be different at 125hz and up vs 40hz?
Just curious is all if output is same at different frequencies instead of always at 40hz...
These things scream😁
laudAF365 you typically get more output at 100hz-up, but not always
@@HifiVega I really wish you could hear my setup...
I appreciate the input... thank you.
Had Zeus they are half their rating true rms so if a Zeus says 2400, it's 1200rms. Did it have fuses? Also I remember reading straight from hifonics years ago it's half.
140 amps of fusing I believe
@@HifiVega Thanks that would make sense.
I have 2 rockford fosgate 10s would you recommend the taramps hd amplifier? Need help lol
Depending on which mode that might be a lil bit too much on them
Thanks bruddie
Vega I didn't hear you talk about the taramps 3000 hd or the taramps 1800 they put out huge power for under 200 or at 200.
The HD 3000 was my honorable mention because it’s $205 everywhere
I've had both the Alpine 500 and Prime 500, the RF in real world, in car killed the Alpine. Hell my Prime 500 ran 2 Skar SDR18-D4'S to a 138.7 SEALED enclosure running a sweep.
Robert Van Hoy It’s good to hear some in car head to head proves the RF out.
@@HifiVega the Alpine was fine, sounded clean. The RF just had a lot more balls to it.
When I was starting out for the second time, I picked up the pioneer from Walmart n it held out. Even after bridging at 2 ohms haha bitch got hot af but it worked. Seems like soo long n soo much $ ago. Good stuff bro thanks for sharing
Do you recommend a cheap small amp? My wife wants me to put a sub in her car now that she heard my savard 6.5. I was thinking maybe just 200-300 watts. Great video as well!👍
Timothy Tegtmeier there’s a $60 dual 300w amp that budget gem (Ryan) tested. I’d go with that
had two rockford r500 amp and a hertz 1xd. All blew within 5 years, what’s a reliable brand?
I mean one of the first brands I’d say is RF, but you should check out Kicker, Pioneer and Alpine they all offer budget lines that have been pretty tough in my experience
Try arc audio amplifiers I’ve had mine for about 4 years and previous owner had it 5-6 years.
@@julioesc7392 Thank you! will look into that
I so wish you would do one for four Channel I'm in the market for a good for a channel 150 watts by 4 and higher
Best amp u can buy for money BAR-NONE, is the Soundqubed s4-100. It does 200 watts x 4 @2 and i believe around 140 @4. Big D has a dyno vid. I just bought one myself. i think u can get for 159 if u look around def find it for 179 bout anywhere. others: audiopipe 4080, dual da84, and the rockville db45. the soundqubed is as compact as u could want, the rockville is a lil big and the audiopipe has heat issues. Also u might like taramps 800.4 for 149$
i actually would make that the best top 5 budget 4 channels! Ha! Curious what Vega thinks of my advice and amps mentioned and what would u replace w/what other amp? I think e would DEF agree with me on these being some of very best for price u could buy!
@@basslifexxl2391 thanks bro I really appreciate your info now I got some research to do👍👍
whats wrong with 4 gauge? just getting into audio and would like to know
Zixyr on high powered amps 4ga inputs will force you to use reducers or actual 4ga and can limit the output of the amp depending on the length of the 4ga.