"Cube" is also an example of the risk of opening with twists, because then you have to live up to it. Offing the escape artist is a great way to signal danger, but you also are then forced to live up to the announced danger both for the traps and the skills of the other characters, or it will just be obvious plot armor.
Bones and All was very obviously a cannibal movie. But I do love a big twist at the beginning of a horror movie. Adds to the surprise in a different way
This list is interesting. I would add Ghost Ship. The opening feels like an early 80's movie-the pink letter title,the party in the cruise ship,the kind captain inviting a lonely little girl to dance with him. And then the wire rips.through all,and everyone except the little girl suddenly falls into pieces. Next thing,a salvage crew finds the abandoned ship,instructed by a mysterious stranger. All that in the first half hour. Not the best haunting film ever,but an attention grabber.
That's a pretty run-of-the-mill "snapshot of what came prior to the main story"-intro like we see in so many horror movies. Not all that surprising or original in my book. It doesn't even really feel like a twist, since it hardly connects to the rest of the story at all.
@@erikthompson619 True. It's not the best movie on haunting ever made,and the story isn't even that original. Just that opening scene,though. It got my attention
I agree the 2009 Friday the 13th film is under appreciated. I wish the sequel they had planned wasn't canceled. The 2009 film is my favorite in the franchise.
@@mightybitchy I wish the screenwriters would reveal the entire script of the canceled sequel even though they posted a few pages. They said how it would have been the first film in the franchise to take place in winter time which definitely would have been great to see Jason paint the snow with blood. It said in the script that while some teens were playing hockey on the frozen Crystal Lake, we would see that Whitney's body is under it thus having us find out that she did indeed die, which means Clay would have to be dead too. That would mean the 2009 film is the only film is the franchise where nobody survived at the end. Anyway, they also revealed that a drunk girl tries an old zip-line and Jason uses his machete to slice her in half as she comes down which truly sounds awesome. The title of the film was supposed to be "Camp Blood: The Death of Jason Voorhees". I'm surprised they would kill him off only in the second film of the reboot series, but perhaps they wanted to do it since it would have been the 13th film of the franchise. Then again, each time we think Jason is dead, he just keep coming back.
The 09 Friday film did what they never did with the original. Just have Jason be freakishly fast (I'm guesstimating he'd clock a 4.3 40 yard dash) and frighteningly smart (the way he had the entire place wired underground so he knew where they were based on what got tripped). 09 recognized that you're not coming close to doing what the original did, which was pull off one of the greatest swerves in modern movie history. So you use his mother being killed as a launching point but not have it be IN THE MOVIE, as we go with Jason already at it and folks walking right toward it unknowingly.
Yes, this. Came here to say same thing. Got a few into the list and thought to myself "Feast" better be on this list. Not only did they pull a fast one but made it kinda funny in process. That whole series as whole is just a bunch on "wtf", shocks, and surprises. They either shock you or humor you lol. Just a fun wild ride
It's surprising that a movie as good as "No one lives", of a type that should be so easily marketable, fared so poorly at the box office. I really hope it's not too late for its second coming, because a sequel would be welcome as well as very easy to write.
I mean, I don't think "people you first see in a horror movie turn out to be the first victims" is really a "twist". Also, in "What Keeps You Alive", Jackie being the antagonist wasn't really so much a "twist" as it was "the entire base premise of the movie". That would be like saying a "twist" in most Friday the 13th movies is that that guy with the mask is NOT, in fact, a hockey player.
I wouldn't say that "the initial characters we're introduced to is not the main cast of characters" is really a plot twist. If that was the case, I would've included The Empty Man here.
Went into the movie blind, only interest was Taylor Russell, Andre Holland, and Mark Rylance; had absolutely no idea what to expect, so that scene was a HUGE surprise for me, personally.
The trailer for Soft & Quiet is just vague enough that I understand why some people might not realize what the movie is about, but others will almost immediately pick up on the careful use of language and what isn't being said. The movie is horrifying because things like that have happened and continue to happen.
I'd have gone with Wes Craven's New Nightmare here for a few reasons... First, it's a beat for beat nod to the original that started it all. 84 starts with Tina's nightmare. 94 starts with Heather's nightmare which just happens to be the making of a new movie. Now where this differs is notable for two reasons. First, nobody died in 84 least not right away. In 94, two folks died right away which weren't confirmed until a little later on in the movie. Second, with 94 we got no opening credits like in 84. You're thrown right into it and left to figure out, what's reality versus what is her dreaming. I think Wes would go on to label it a 'Nightmare In Progress' when he broke this all down for Heather about midway through the movie and that's probably the best way to describe it all. A Nightmare In Progress that Heather's in the middle of that she's hoping isn't as bad as it's shaping out to be. I get why everyone loves the OG and yes, its place here is well warranted. But what Wes did in 94 to put a proper finishing touch on the Freddy/Nancy saga shouldn't be ignored. After all, if this doesn't hit we likely don't get Scream 2 years later.
I Like Friday the 13'th , But I'm a sucker for a good Teen Horror even tho I'm in my 30's Lol I Am a Huge Urban Legends Fan & Final Destinations ( Many of them ) & Scream( A good few of them ) & Halloween ( A few of these too ) & Ginger Snaps & house of Wax & So many more you could call Teen Horror's That are a easy watch that you can watch over & over But newer ones too like , Scary Stories to tell in the Dark & It Follows &The new Thanksgiving & Influencer & I even like the not so Great but are easy to watch a few times & the Escape room movies & copycat ones too But don't get me wrong , I Love an Amazing Made Horror that i never saw coming Like i was really surprised with Thanksgiving & It Follows was Really well made & Influencer too But there is such Hard compaction as Horror is becoming more mainstream which i do think is a good thing as we get more movies to see & use channels like this to find on to watch , Thanks #WhatCultureHorror #Ellie
ya the person who wrote this list never seen any marketing for bones in all because the whole finger eating and the cannibal urges was shown and talk about in one of the trailers for the movie so they where not hiding nothing
Alot of horror trailers give away the whole plot. I tend to avoid all the trailers of a horror movie I wanna see. It pays off when I get to be surprised.
I have a feeling I wasn't the only one who went "WTF?!" and scrolled back to the start of the chapter for Soft And Quiet judging by the most viewed graph XD
Alien 3. Hicks and Newt apparently died earlier offscreen at the beginning of the movie, that felt like a cheat. Jonesy made it though at least, I guess.
You can NOT just drop Martyrs into a random list of horror movies. It is a traumatic viewing experience and people need a warning before they watch it. It really is only for people who know what they are getting into.
why would anyone watch the trailer for Bones and All and not think it was going to be about cannibals? thats not even a twist XD its exactly why i didnt watch it, cant stand cannibal movies since Wrong Turn
@@Mia_____________ A twist is something like the end of Sleepaway Camp, that is shocking but has no real effect on the plot and occurs too late to make a difference. A Game Changer is like the reveal of who Tyler is in Fight Club, it reframes the narrative and makes a huge difference in the proceedings.
@@ryanhall7607 Your personal definition of a plot twist is different to the actual definition. If a plot twist doesn't twist the plot, then it's not a plot twist. And Tyler IS a plot twist, by definition.
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I know mentioning Scream at this point is kinda redundant, but still one of the best opening twists ever!
Agreed! Anyone who saw it when it came out was shocked!
Yes! I feel like Scream invented the true twist opening if they didn't just perfect it.
I've seen a lot of comments lately that they (whatculture) keep recycling the same 20 films into every list. I feel like this is a good diverse one.
@@DiabloGEN I agree!
The Hunt should 100% be on this list
If Bones And All is going to be? Absolutely
I would definitely add “Perfection” to the list, the rewind scene that reveals the initial body horror at forty minutes is mind-blowing!
Yessss
That's was a mini horror movie in of itself, and then it kept going
I’m impressed that you had the willpower to leave Scream off
The fact that "Feast" didn't make the list hurts my heart. 😅 That beginning was so much fun once it got going. That whole "Feast" series was wild.
If you haven't seen Takashi Miike's "Dead or Alive" trilogy; I think it'll be right up your alley.
@@jhash2625 Sure, why not. Got a bunch of days off coming up lol. If you know off hand some where I can watch them that'd be cool.
"Cube" is also an example of the risk of opening with twists, because then you have to live up to it. Offing the escape artist is a great way to signal danger, but you also are then forced to live up to the announced danger both for the traps and the skills of the other characters, or it will just be obvious plot armor.
Bones and All was very obviously a cannibal movie. But I do love a big twist at the beginning of a horror movie. Adds to the surprise in a different way
The intro to Scream 6 was pretty gnarly.
This list is interesting. I would add Ghost Ship. The opening feels like an early 80's movie-the pink letter title,the party in the cruise ship,the kind captain inviting a lonely little girl to dance with him. And then the wire rips.through all,and everyone except the little girl suddenly falls into pieces. Next thing,a salvage crew finds the abandoned ship,instructed by a mysterious stranger. All that in the first half hour. Not the best haunting film ever,but an attention grabber.
Agreed but what culture has talked about ghost ships opening so many times
That's a pretty run-of-the-mill "snapshot of what came prior to the main story"-intro like we see in so many horror movies. Not all that surprising or original in my book. It doesn't even really feel like a twist, since it hardly connects to the rest of the story at all.
@@erikthompson619 True. It's not the best movie on haunting ever made,and the story isn't even that original. Just that opening scene,though. It got my attention
The biggest twist was it was a rotten movie
One of my guilty pleasure movies.
I agree the 2009 Friday the 13th film is under appreciated. I wish the sequel they had planned wasn't canceled. The 2009 film is my favorite in the franchise.
Mine as well. It’s the only movie that redeemed it I thought.
@@mightybitchy I wish the screenwriters would reveal the entire script of the canceled sequel even though they posted a few pages. They said how it would have been the first film in the franchise to take place in winter time which definitely would have been great to see Jason paint the snow with blood. It said in the script that while some teens were playing hockey on the frozen Crystal Lake, we would see that Whitney's body is under it thus having us find out that she did indeed die, which means Clay would have to be dead too. That would mean the 2009 film is the only film is the franchise where nobody survived at the end. Anyway, they also revealed that a drunk girl tries an old zip-line and Jason uses his machete to slice her in half as she comes down which truly sounds awesome. The title of the film was supposed to be "Camp Blood: The Death of Jason Voorhees". I'm surprised they would kill him off only in the second film of the reboot series, but perhaps they wanted to do it since it would have been the 13th film of the franchise. Then again, each time we think Jason is dead, he just keep coming back.
The 09 Friday film did what they never did with the original. Just have Jason be freakishly fast (I'm guesstimating he'd clock a 4.3 40 yard dash) and frighteningly smart (the way he had the entire place wired underground so he knew where they were based on what got tripped).
09 recognized that you're not coming close to doing what the original did, which was pull off one of the greatest swerves in modern movie history. So you use his mother being killed as a launching point but not have it be IN THE MOVIE, as we go with Jason already at it and folks walking right toward it unknowingly.
Surprised Barbarian isnt on this list
Feast has one of the greatest opening twists.
Yes, this. Came here to say same thing. Got a few into the list and thought to myself "Feast" better be on this list. Not only did they pull a fast one but made it kinda funny in process. That whole series as whole is just a bunch on "wtf", shocks, and surprises. They either shock you or humor you lol. Just a fun wild ride
Alanda Parker just did a great reaction video to 'Better Watch Out." 😂
The Hunt Should Be On The List
I would love for this channel to list the movies in the description so I can know if I need to skip to avoid spoilers.
The Hunt not being on this list,is a major oversight!
There’s nothing unexpected in this movie.
The switching the main character multiple times was phenomenal in itself.
No one thought "Bones and All" was about serial killers.
It's surprising that a movie as good as "No one lives", of a type that should be so easily marketable, fared so poorly at the box office. I really hope it's not too late for its second coming, because a sequel would be welcome as well as very easy to write.
It was OK
Better Watch Out has one of my favorite horror movie twists. Very clever way of undermining the cliches of slasher movies.
I mean, I don't think "people you first see in a horror movie turn out to be the first victims" is really a "twist". Also, in "What Keeps You Alive", Jackie being the antagonist wasn't really so much a "twist" as it was "the entire base premise of the movie". That would be like saying a "twist" in most Friday the 13th movies is that that guy with the mask is NOT, in fact, a hockey player.
I wouldn't say that "the initial characters we're introduced to is not the main cast of characters" is really a plot twist. If that was the case, I would've included The Empty Man here.
ooh, didnt realize there was an entire horror flick about moms with liberty!
how was bones and all a twist opening? all you had to do was watch the trailer. They literally show her eating her friends fingers
I haven’t watched the video yet but I feel like the title may be a giveaway here…
Went into the movie blind, only interest was Taylor Russell, Andre Holland, and Mark Rylance; had absolutely no idea what to expect, so that scene was a HUGE surprise for me, personally.
@@SorenPenroseit's not a twist if the trailer literally says it 😂 YOU are the one not understanding
@@PrinceIsot it’s also not a twist if the title implies the possibility
There’s also a book 📖
I liked Land Mine Goes Click, especially the 3rd act.
The trailer for Soft & Quiet is just vague enough that I understand why some people might not realize what the movie is about, but others will almost immediately pick up on the careful use of language and what isn't being said. The movie is horrifying because things like that have happened and continue to happen.
I REALLY love this list!!! I hope we can scrounge up another in the future...nice job, Ellie ;)
Thanks for the List and Video 😀
NO ONE LIVES is non-stop action and thrills from the start.
What about cabin on the woods? The opening scene threw me so off!
can we talk about the fact HUNT and SCREAM were not on this list? AND MORE IMPORTANTLY WHERE WAS PHSYCO?????
I'd have gone with Wes Craven's New Nightmare here for a few reasons...
First, it's a beat for beat nod to the original that started it all. 84 starts with Tina's nightmare. 94 starts with Heather's nightmare which just happens to be the making of a new movie. Now where this differs is notable for two reasons. First, nobody died in 84 least not right away. In 94, two folks died right away which weren't confirmed until a little later on in the movie. Second, with 94 we got no opening credits like in 84. You're thrown right into it and left to figure out, what's reality versus what is her dreaming.
I think Wes would go on to label it a 'Nightmare In Progress' when he broke this all down for Heather about midway through the movie and that's probably the best way to describe it all. A Nightmare In Progress that Heather's in the middle of that she's hoping isn't as bad as it's shaping out to be. I get why everyone loves the OG and yes, its place here is well warranted. But what Wes did in 94 to put a proper finishing touch on the Freddy/Nancy saga shouldn't be ignored. After all, if this doesn't hit we likely don't get Scream 2 years later.
Better watch out is underrated
I Like Friday the 13'th , But I'm a sucker for a good Teen Horror even tho I'm in my 30's Lol
I Am a Huge Urban Legends Fan & Final Destinations ( Many of them ) & Scream( A good few of them ) & Halloween ( A few of these too ) & Ginger Snaps & house of Wax & So many more you could call Teen Horror's
That are a easy watch that you can watch over & over But newer ones too like , Scary Stories to tell in the Dark & It Follows &The new Thanksgiving & Influencer & I even like the not so Great but are easy to watch a few times & the Escape room movies & copycat ones too
But don't get me wrong , I Love an Amazing Made Horror that i never saw coming Like i was really surprised with Thanksgiving & It Follows was Really well made & Influencer too
But there is such Hard compaction as Horror is becoming more mainstream which i do think is a good thing as we get more movies to see & use channels like this to find on to watch , Thanks #WhatCultureHorror #Ellie
ya the person who wrote this list never seen any marketing for bones in all because the whole finger eating and the cannibal urges was shown and talk about in one of the trailers for the movie so they where not hiding nothing
Alot of horror trailers give away the whole plot. I tend to avoid all the trailers of a horror movie I wanna see. It pays off when I get to be surprised.
Cool list 👏
No one Lives is absolutely awesome.
Everyone ignores that Soft and Quiet is one continues shot.
I have a feeling I wasn't the only one who went "WTF?!" and scrolled back to the start of the chapter for Soft And Quiet judging by the most viewed graph XD
I'm surprised that Don't Breathe isn't on this list, amongst about a dozen more.
Not really a horror movie but Tropic Thunder had a surprise death really early on.
Alien 3. Hicks and Newt apparently died earlier offscreen at the beginning of the movie, that felt like a cheat. Jonesy made it though at least, I guess.
I hated “Better Watch Out”
we WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO KNOW SHE WAS A CANNIBAL? dude, when i saw the trailer, i wasn't sure if she was a freaking ZOMBIE or not!
I would have included Cabin In The Woods on this list.
Just got to watch "Land mines go click" quite good horror ..
This is the third list but with the same title as the first. Or is this another repost of a list you did mere months ago?
Oh but what about the “going” and “the remainder”? I wish they had gotten mentioned.
Idk why but I never saw Tina as the lead or thought that she was or would be the lead. And that's from the very first time I saw the movie.
Wow this is awesome
Thumbnail is a bit much
Doesn't kill him instantly...
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before you get mad this is a joke: SKILL ISSUE
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Now this is the Ellie I like, not her work on whoculture for the Christmas special ups and downs.
I am third!
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Poop x2 is still just poop.
Lol i cut off soft and loud as soon as i seem that pie. Basically an american history x with whitecwomen
Bones and all wasn’t a twist at all and also that movie was terrible. Read the book!
You can NOT just drop Martyrs into a random list of horror movies. It is a traumatic viewing experience and people need a warning before they watch it. It really is only for people who know what they are getting into.
They did place it on a list of HORROR films after all
@@Kevin-ce6qn it is not horror. It is Trauma Porn. As I said, to just drop it on this list without huge warnings is quite frankly disgusting.
why would anyone watch the trailer for Bones and All and not think it was going to be about cannibals? thats not even a twist XD its exactly why i didnt watch it, cant stand cannibal movies since Wrong Turn
Twists are boring. Game changers are exciting.
Tell us the difference.
@@Mia_____________ A twist is something like the end of Sleepaway Camp, that is shocking but has no real effect on the plot and occurs too late to make a difference. A Game Changer is like the reveal of who Tyler is in Fight Club, it reframes the narrative and makes a huge difference in the proceedings.
@@ryanhall7607 That's your own incorrect definition. Tyler's Fight Club reveal is a quintessential plot twist 🤭
@@backwardsorange548 It’s not a twist, it’s inherent to the story any sense at all and is painstakingly set up throughout the narrative and action.
@@ryanhall7607 Your personal definition of a plot twist is different to the actual definition. If a plot twist doesn't twist the plot, then it's not a plot twist. And Tyler IS a plot twist, by definition.