I didn’t hate that Ms. Collins in the ‘76 version (they changed her name from the novel) as it shows Carrie’s blind rage when she even kills a faculty member who was kind to her. It’s still tragic beyond belief as there are various student body members who didn’t deserve the dark fate they get thanks to a prank by one vengeful bitch
Jason has spared people on a few occasions/did good deeds I’m of the mindset that the reason he spares the teens here is that deep down he ~knows~ that they were just minding their own business and that *he* in fact was in the wrong for booting their tunes without any provocation He also hovered over a little girl in one of the cabin in Pt 6 I want to say, and when she hid under her covers and started reciting a prayer he realized that she was truly innocent (that scene also provides one of the all time greatest lines by any child actor or possibly in any horror movie… two boys casually hiding under their bunk and one says nonchalantly to the other “so, what ~did~ you want to be when you grew up” Also here in Pt 8 is the one time that I know of where Jason actively saves someone from a horrible fate… he catches up to his primary target and see that she’s been drugged and is about to be sexually assaulted… he kills both the goons and gives a subtle head nod as she staggers herself to safety. If anyone’s going to kill her it’s going to be *HIM* and it’s going to be done fairly. No drugs and no assault Jason is a man of conviction… Jason is a good boy
Better choice for Jason would of been when he entered a cabin full of little kids an decides not to kill any of them even when he had all the time in the world to do so. He just leaves.
Why they didn’t choose Friday the 13th Part 6 over Part 8 just because it’s a better movie _in general_ just baffles me. But good on them for including Steven Spielberg’s breakout first feature, Duel. That thriller is really under appreciated.
I remember seeing the 2018 Halloween in the theater, and the moment we saw the baby, you could feel every single person in the theater tense up, only to let out a cumulative sigh of relief when he walked away.
Hannibal also doesn’t kill just for the sake of killing. Clarice understood that in silence. He really only kills those in his way or those who disrespect him. In his way also relates to those who compromise his freedom.
@alex: I always thought the truck was a ghost. Yes, we see it wrecked, but it could be where the trucker died originally. The truck and trailer are both oddly rusted out, not something normal for the trucking industry. As to why the chase, maybe the driver died after being cut off, hence the demonic rage, and also why the truck saved the kuds.
For "The Menu" I can actually understand the reasoning behind what the chef did. That is one of the bad things of being a celebrity chef. It eventually becomes about something else while the passion for the food goes away. You have to be off your rocker in the first place to be a chef. We all are slightly masochistic to put our bodies through what we did.
I always figured that Jason let the punks off because he understood why they were pissed. He did destroy their property after all. So they did have a right to get angry.
I feel like Jeffrey Comb's character in Would You Rather makes me think of this trope. He was pretty demented tho he did let them leave if they wanted to at the start, but he knew they were desperate and had no idea what was coming. But he also hated that his son tried to assault Brittany Snow so layers lol
I have to take issue with Carrie being called a villain. She discovered her powers and initially had no intention of hurting people. Then the whole school either participated in her humiliation, or stood by and let it happen. Every single person she attacked there was guilty.
If youre going to mention how Michael abandoning that baby alive is potentially bad for the baby, you might want to make the same note for the cat. You think that bowl of food would last forever? Then again in both cases, the disappearances will be noticed and rescue would come fairly quickly anyway, especially with such high profile strings or murders linking the victims together.
Can tell he hasn't personally seen The Menu. The reveal that almost everyone there (minus the main protagonist) has had some part in his loss of passion for cooking isn't until the last third/quarter of the movie. The question of why it's all happening is one of the primary mysteries throughout the plot. And the protagonist is spared because of a few reasons. First, she wasn't on the guest list and had nothing to do with his loss of passion. And second, she's actually responsible for a moment of that passion returning after she criticized the rest of the menu, and ordered he make her cheeseburger like he was a line cook. For a moment, all he wanted was to surprise her with something actually good, not pretentious. And for that moment, his passion was back. Because of these reasons, she was rewarded with her freedom.
@@lilmissknowitall5775 It's actually pretty common for What Culture to have people read from a script without them having seen alot of what they talk about. It's very clear that he actually hasn't seen the movie or he would know that what the script says isn't really correct.
To correct a point: The mysterious Trucker’s debut in Duel wasn’t his “origin story” so to speak, he’s canonically killed many times before. He’s killed AT LEAST seven people (maybe more depending on how many people were in each vehicle). Spielberg wanted to clue the audience in to this by showing the extra license plates attached to the truck’s grill. Turns out, those are the trucker’s “trophies” from previous victims of his road rage. So yeah, this isn’t the only time that the unseen driver got “heated and personal” with someone on the road… and he clearly has a history of getting away with vehicular homicide. So even if he helped out some children, it was only a matter of time until he claimed another victim on the open road.
What about the original “Silent Night Deadly Night,” when the killer spares a little girl because she wasn’t “naughty”? Even gives her a bloody blade as a gift before he leaves, lol.
Carrie was in none of the movies the Villain, it was always the Bullies and the teacher was not the only one who was nice to her, one of the bullies friend was also nice to her.
Dr Giggles spares the computer game-obsessed child who doesn't even register his presence. He - the "doctor" - just shakes his head and says "terminal".
About that first one, I can believe it. A cat is basically the Freddy Krueger of the animal kingdom by just how many animals they kill for fun, as well as food, so a slasher villain choosing to feed a house-cat seems completely on-brand for me. It's just helping a fellow serial killer there - seems fair to me. Also, as someone that worked at Walmart on both Black Friday and during the major of the Covid-19 pandemic, I'll say this slasher is targeting 85% of the correct people (said due to him targeting and killing the security guard that was not paid enough to deal with a terribly planned Black Friday. Seriously, he didn't even have a taser during that event so what would have he been able to do anyway? That slasher should have gone after the store manager and the store owner for not improving the planning on customer-interactions and/or guiding customers to run each other over. They both f*cked up there).
@@austinhuber3131 True, but again, due to Carver wanting revenge for his wife's death - he should let the security guard be forced to live with the guilt instead. If anything, that have gotten the guard to kill himself simply due to the question of "When am I next" and/or survivor's guilt. Again, Carver should target the manager and owner of the Walmart knock-off instead because, without them making a better plan and/or using legit tactics (like the real-world Walmart aisle ticket tactic and/or Target's walkie-talkie communication), multiple people wouldn't have died that Black Friday.
Chucky prevented a person who constantly raped his new body from doing it again also shows ownership of said person. Not really just to be nice. Edit- in the menu, she got to go because she was the only one to speak up for herself. Whether or not Clarice reminding him of his sister is cannon to the movies, he clearly senes some sort of kinship to her, so cutting her arm off would be rude.
Carrie is a complicated character to simply call a villain. Is her revenge evil? Yes, unequivocally. Is she a villain? That's a much more complex question.
She is supposed to be in the novel, King compares her to the Columbine shooters with telekinesis simply giving her finally an out, though that's still debatable.
@@themantyf1116 She's an abused child reacting to an abusive situation. It is absolutely an evil act, but I think King was trying to shine a light on what hurting people does. Who the actual villains are is left to the reader to decide.
@@ericthompson3982 he has declared that his intentions were to show her already having disturbed thoughts and an attitude toward hurting, I don't think I hit the mark myself and that there is a bigger discussion to have about the effects of abuse, but just like with "Time to Read" it doesn't change the original intent of the author.
@@ericthompson3982 as I said, I agree that King's take isn't the best way to handle the situation he depicted, but that's a different matter. The story is written with her as the villain. We can argue with the story's construction, but not pretend the author intent is different.
@@nmbalo No, it's in Alien. Towards the end, the Xenomorph is seen looking as the cat Jonesy, whose trapped in a carrier. The Xeno leaves the cat be instead of killing it, which it could have easily done.
@ChaoticNakka oh then no I don't see that as evil or good lol 😆 alien was hunting bigger prey at the time. There was a female cop in predator 2 who was spared due to her condition
Predators arent "evil". I mean, Im sure some are, but considering they act out their own species morality and biology, they are just being very normal. Im a little uncertain how they managed to evolve that far with that mindset, but whatever.
I think the Carrie remake would be been better using the cyber bullying options such as them making memes, clips etc and following her around. I’m glad she was shown saving Ms Desjardin as narrator points out she’s the only one to give Carrie kindness and confidence. Judy played it well like how she seems to actually show contempt to the bully’s especially disliking Chris, and playing her and her father by pointing out what she did was cyber bullying and how the media will crucify them. I think Julianne Moore doesn’t get enough credit as she plays a more realistic version of Margaret White as she’s not so over the top ad Piper Laurie (who admitted she thought the film was comedy) as with this version she’s actually concerned with wanting to keep Carrie safe and loves her. Chris and Billy were over the top and her makeup made her look like a failing socialite in her 30s
I’m pretty sure the woman in a girl walks home alone at night never killed someone who was innocent, at least on screen. She stumbled on Arash’s dad doing something pretty horrible when she killed him.
I'd argue it was very fun. That doesn't inherently make it "good" but it certainly keeps it entertaining. Personally, though I may be in the extreme minority, I had a ton of fun with AVP 2 as well. Many would argue it was a bad film, but I have zero regrets watching it and enjoyed my time. I'd even argue it was plenty better than The Predator as well!
@@partofthetribe3277 I enjoyed it immensely, far more than I even expected I would. I think it's probably my favorite in the entire franchise after the original.
What about in Predator 2 when the Predator spares a child after scanning his weapons and seeing they are toys? He even coos at the child adoringly before taking off.
I’ve seen a theory for the Menu where there is a previous scene regarding the meat that is used at the island that it is very precisely aged and if it is over aged by even a couple of hours, it becomes poisonous. The theory is that the meat used for the burger had crossed this threshold and while she makes it off the island and isn’t burned alive with everyone else, she still does from food poisoning as she continues to eat the burger on the boat at the end. Mental to think about but I kinda like the implication she still dies just not in the horrific way the others do. He gives her the honour of a simpler death due to her giving back his purpose.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Hanibal Lecter and Clarice Starling run off together in the book. She never handcuffs his hand. They only did that for the movie.
I saw a really long film called US Presidential Election 2020. The sidekick to the main villain had been sycophantic throughout, but when the dark lord (this had to be a work of fantasy) asked the sidekick to do his bidding one last time in a desperate bid to overturn the election result, the sidekick did the right thing and acted with honour & decency for the first time. It was an act that cast the dark lord into the wilderness for several years, though I've heard they're planning a sequel with the sidekick recast.
I think that we are supposed to take Margo's leaving more as her manipulating Slovik's delusion than him sparing her, but then again making a whole scene about being "fucking hungry" and then claiming to be full after a single cheesburger bite is so grotesque (to be kind) that we can consider it as Slovik letting her go.
Carver in Thanksgiving wasn't an "evil" villain. It was a distraught revenge situation. He was doing evil things, but felt he was justified by his vengeance mission. Doesn't count.
I just thought it was respect that he had for her.... he is a psycho but one of those top tier ones that spot excellence in others. Thats why he does the orchestra player, they kept playing flat... no excellence, no respect therefore equals death.... and dinner
I was gonna say; they have morals and protocols, it's just that they don't align with our morals. In the Predator's (I refuse to call them that ridiculous name from the comics) world it did nothing wrong at any point. Do we have to agree with it, as humans? No. But you may as well label a lion as a villain for attacking an antelope.
Psychopaths are capable of feeling emotions like empathy as long as they don’t have anti-social personality disorder. It’s the sociopaths that are in able to show true emotions and empathy
Other way around. Psychopaths are nature, sociopaths are nurture. Sociopaths have a stunted but still detectable level of empathy and concern. Psychopaths have to learn to fake empathy. Also, being a sociopath/psychopath doesn't mean that you will wind up hurting people... just that your empathy is blunted or absent.
Hannibal Lector is evil by our standards, but he has a pretty complex code of honor. He doesn't look at things in a good or evil way. People aren't expendable in his world view. If they are in his way, he will kill them. If they piss him off, he will kill them badly. But he doesn't stalk people and pick them off like a typical serial killer or movie monster. He would just as soon as brighten a child's day as slice the femoral artery of a pickpocket.
I hated that part! Hollywood sucks. Hannibal would have immediately cut off Clarice's hand since SHE was the one who chose to play a stupid game. Wrecked the whole movie for me.
Wrote a story one time wherein a group of psychopaths broke into a family's home and did horrible things to them. While sitting on the family's living room couch a few hours later, covered in their remains and smoking a cigarette, the leader of the merry band of maniacs noticed a kitten that belonged to the little girl was still alive and playing with his shoelaces. He pet the kitty and got it some tuna, explicitly taking perverse joy in allowing it to live solely as an affirmation of his power over life and death. Later at his house, the leader is...gratifying himself over the memories of what he and his friends did that night, and suddenly climaxes upon remembering that he asked one of them to burn down the house to remove all evidence of them being there...but neglected to mention the kitten eating tuna in the kitchen.
First!!! Yes, I’m finally first!! Look at me Daddy!! Are you proud now? Please come back home, I‘ve stocked up on milk and cigarettes!!! You never have to leave again!!!! DADDY!!!!
Clarice Starling is not Hannibal Lector’s rival, not even close. Will Graham would be Hannibal’s rival, he’s pretty much the polar opposite or Lector, and just as intelligent.
Joel - It's when Clarice, in an almost stream-of-consciousness recollection, tells Dr. Lecter about trying to save that single lamb, of the bitter cold of the night, its weight in her arms, and of then being caught by her angry uncle and having 'her' lamb forcibly taken from her. Clarice's honesty (and revealing of her recollected anguish) strikes Hannibal's heart like an arrow (😉), and it's *then* that he becomes truly 'enamored' with her. The tears, shining in his eyes, as he thanks Clarice, speak volumes...
The gym teacher in Carrie only dies in DePalma's version. The novel and the other versions of Carrie save her.
I didn't know she survived the novel. That's good to know
There all gonna laugh at you...
That was the most evil 😈 scene eva.
Yeah, I hated DePalma for that. (What can I do, I'm a Carrie novel purist. 🤷🏾♀️🤘🏾)
I didn’t hate that Ms. Collins in the ‘76 version (they changed her name from the novel) as it shows Carrie’s blind rage when she even kills a faculty member who was kind to her. It’s still tragic beyond belief as there are various student body members who didn’t deserve the dark fate they get thanks to a prank by one vengeful bitch
One reason I like the remake better
Jason has spared people on a few occasions/did good deeds
I’m of the mindset that the reason he spares the teens here is that deep down he ~knows~ that they were just minding their own business and that *he* in fact was in the wrong for booting their tunes without any provocation
He also hovered over a little girl in one of the cabin in Pt 6 I want to say, and when she hid under her covers and started reciting a prayer he realized that she was truly innocent (that scene also provides one of the all time greatest lines by any child actor or possibly in any horror movie… two boys casually hiding under their bunk and one says nonchalantly to the other “so, what ~did~ you want to be when you grew up”
Also here in Pt 8 is the one time that I know of where Jason actively saves someone from a horrible fate… he catches up to his primary target and see that she’s been drugged and is about to be sexually assaulted… he kills both the goons and gives a subtle head nod as she staggers herself to safety. If anyone’s going to kill her it’s going to be *HIM* and it’s going to be done fairly. No drugs and no assault
Jason is a man of conviction… Jason is a good boy
Better choice for Jason would of been when he entered a cabin full of little kids an decides not to kill any of them even when he had all the time in the world to do so. He just leaves.
I love that scene.
That, or when he kills the guys who were trying to drug and rape Rennie.
Why they didn’t choose Friday the 13th Part 6 over Part 8 just because it’s a better movie _in general_ just baffles me. But good on them for including Steven Spielberg’s breakout first feature, Duel. That thriller is really under appreciated.
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Duel is an excellent film. I was actually considering rewatching it over the lead week.
I was gonna mention this one too.
I remember seeing the 2018 Halloween in the theater, and the moment we saw the baby, you could feel every single person in the theater tense up, only to let out a cumulative sigh of relief when he walked away.
::holds up photo with James Jude Courtney:: He did a great job.
Actually, Margot paid $10 for the burger.
Seems like a very reasonable price.
Thank you. When he said she got a free burger, I was like “Whoa, whoa, whoa. She paid $10 for it.”
Hannibal also doesn’t kill just for the sake of killing. Clarice understood that in silence. He really only kills those in his way or those who disrespect him. In his way also relates to those who compromise his freedom.
Basically he eats the "rude"
That was a great moment in Duel. Makes the villain more sympathetic and asks more questions at the end of the film.
He had extreme road rage. I think that's basically what the movie is about... a truck driver wound too tightly who snaps when he gets cut off.
@alex: I always thought the truck was a ghost.
Yes, we see it wrecked, but it could be where the trucker died originally.
The truck and trailer are both oddly rusted out, not something normal for the trucking industry.
As to why the chase, maybe the driver died after being cut off, hence the demonic rage, and also why the truck saved the kuds.
For "The Menu" I can actually understand the reasoning behind what the chef did. That is one of the bad things of being a celebrity chef. It eventually becomes about something else while the passion for the food goes away. You have to be off your rocker in the first place to be a chef. We all are slightly masochistic to put our bodies through what we did.
I always figured that Jason let the punks off because he understood why they were pissed. He did destroy their property after all. So they did have a right to get angry.
To me it's more like he recognised that they are likely to sow disorder and violence if he leaves them alive.
Or they weren’t extras.
This made me realize that Michael Myers has been (sort-of) babysitting kids on halloween for years, though the kids probably don't sleep well after.
I feel like Jeffrey Comb's character in Would You Rather makes me think of this trope. He was pretty demented tho he did let them leave if they wanted to at the start, but he knew they were desperate and had no idea what was coming. But he also hated that his son tried to assault Brittany Snow so layers lol
I have to take issue with Carrie being called a villain.
She discovered her powers and initially had no intention of hurting people.
Then the whole school either participated in her humiliation, or stood by and let it happen.
Every single person she attacked there was guilty.
If youre going to mention how Michael abandoning that baby alive is potentially bad for the baby, you might want to make the same note for the cat. You think that bowl of food would last forever?
Then again in both cases, the disappearances will be noticed and rescue would come fairly quickly anyway, especially with such high profile strings or murders linking the victims together.
Can tell he hasn't personally seen The Menu. The reveal that almost everyone there (minus the main protagonist) has had some part in his loss of passion for cooking isn't until the last third/quarter of the movie. The question of why it's all happening is one of the primary mysteries throughout the plot. And the protagonist is spared because of a few reasons. First, she wasn't on the guest list and had nothing to do with his loss of passion. And second, she's actually responsible for a moment of that passion returning after she criticized the rest of the menu, and ordered he make her cheeseburger like he was a line cook. For a moment, all he wanted was to surprise her with something actually good, not pretentious. And for that moment, his passion was back. Because of these reasons, she was rewarded with her freedom.
defo has seen it, but ok.
@@lilmissknowitall5775 It's actually pretty common for What Culture to have people read from a script without them having seen alot of what they talk about. It's very clear that he actually hasn't seen the movie or he would know that what the script says isn't really correct.
To correct a point: The mysterious Trucker’s debut in Duel wasn’t his “origin story” so to speak, he’s canonically killed many times before. He’s killed AT LEAST seven people (maybe more depending on how many people were in each vehicle). Spielberg wanted to clue the audience in to this by showing the extra license plates attached to the truck’s grill. Turns out, those are the trucker’s “trophies” from previous victims of his road rage.
So yeah, this isn’t the only time that the unseen driver got “heated and personal” with someone on the road… and he clearly has a history of getting away with vehicular homicide. So even if he helped out some children, it was only a matter of time until he claimed another victim on the open road.
What about the original “Silent Night Deadly Night,” when the killer spares a little girl because she wasn’t “naughty”? Even gives her a bloody blade as a gift before he leaves, lol.
Thanks Whatculture for putting the image of Jason Voorhees in full police getup letting punks off with a warning
Carrie was in none of the movies the Villain, it was always the Bullies
and the teacher was not the only one who was nice to her, one of the bullies friend was also nice to her.
Dr Giggles spares the computer game-obsessed child who doesn't even register his presence. He - the "doctor" - just shakes his head and says "terminal".
About that first one, I can believe it. A cat is basically the Freddy Krueger of the animal kingdom by just how many animals they kill for fun, as well as food, so a slasher villain choosing to feed a house-cat seems completely on-brand for me. It's just helping a fellow serial killer there - seems fair to me.
Also, as someone that worked at Walmart on both Black Friday and during the major of the Covid-19 pandemic, I'll say this slasher is targeting 85% of the correct people (said due to him targeting and killing the security guard that was not paid enough to deal with a terribly planned Black Friday. Seriously, he didn't even have a taser during that event so what would have he been able to do anyway? That slasher should have gone after the store manager and the store owner for not improving the planning on customer-interactions and/or guiding customers to run each other over. They both f*cked up there).
For sure, but remember that Carver is a cop so he disdains security guards.
@@austinhuber3131 True, but again, due to Carver wanting revenge for his wife's death - he should let the security guard be forced to live with the guilt instead. If anything, that have gotten the guard to kill himself simply due to the question of "When am I next" and/or survivor's guilt.
Again, Carver should target the manager and owner of the Walmart knock-off instead because, without them making a better plan and/or using legit tactics (like the real-world Walmart aisle ticket tactic and/or Target's walkie-talkie communication), multiple people wouldn't have died that Black Friday.
It's actually a bit ironic, given that serial killers often start out by torturing or killing small animals in their youth.
Predators are known to spare those pregnant or terminally ill since Predator 2
I would add the fact that Jason refuses to hurt little kids in "Jason Lives".
Glad to see The Menu hit this list.
Chucky prevented a person who constantly raped his new body from doing it again also shows ownership of said person. Not really just to be nice.
Edit- in the menu, she got to go because she was the only one to speak up for herself.
Whether or not Clarice reminding him of his sister is cannon to the movies, he clearly senes some sort of kinship to her, so cutting her arm off would be rude.
Carrie is a complicated character to simply call a villain. Is her revenge evil? Yes, unequivocally. Is she a villain? That's a much more complex question.
She is supposed to be in the novel, King compares her to the Columbine shooters with telekinesis simply giving her finally an out, though that's still debatable.
@@themantyf1116 She's an abused child reacting to an abusive situation. It is absolutely an evil act, but I think King was trying to shine a light on what hurting people does. Who the actual villains are is left to the reader to decide.
@@ericthompson3982 he has declared that his intentions were to show her already having disturbed thoughts and an attitude toward hurting, I don't think I hit the mark myself and that there is a bigger discussion to have about the effects of abuse, but just like with "Time to Read" it doesn't change the original intent of the author.
@@themantyf1116 Agreed, but by the time we meet her, she's been abused for her entire life. I think that informs the character.
@@ericthompson3982 as I said, I agree that King's take isn't the best way to handle the situation he depicted, but that's a different matter.
The story is written with her as the villain.
We can argue with the story's construction, but not pretend the author intent is different.
Yes!! More cool fresh ideas like this please!
9:35 She paid for the burger. She didn't get it for free:D She actually took out money of her purse and paid him.
There's a fine line between doing something "good" and doing something "to further your final gaol"
And when the Alien doesn’t kill Jonesy.
thats from predator 2 right?
@@nmbalo No, it's in Alien. Towards the end, the Xenomorph is seen looking as the cat Jonesy, whose trapped in a carrier. The Xeno leaves the cat be instead of killing it, which it could have easily done.
@ChaoticNakka oh then no I don't see that as evil or good lol 😆 alien was hunting bigger prey at the time. There was a female cop in predator 2 who was spared due to her condition
@@nmbalono but another good example
Jonesy would not have made a good host.
The Menu is an acquired taste
Predators arent "evil". I mean, Im sure some are, but considering they act out their own species morality and biology, they are just being very normal. Im a little uncertain how they managed to evolve that far with that mindset, but whatever.
For the Menu, she did pay for it. I’d say she paid twice with the actual $10 she left him plus the experience of the night.
The burger wasn’t free in The Menu. She paid 10 dollars.
I mean, Carrie isn't evil. Feels a bit unfair. 😅
I think the Carrie remake would be been better using the cyber bullying options such as them making memes, clips etc and following her around.
I’m glad she was shown saving Ms Desjardin as narrator points out she’s the only one to give Carrie kindness and confidence. Judy played it well like how she seems to actually show contempt to the bully’s especially disliking Chris, and playing her and her father by pointing out what she did was cyber bullying and how the media will crucify them.
I think Julianne Moore doesn’t get enough credit as she plays a more realistic version of Margaret White as she’s not so over the top ad Piper Laurie (who admitted she thought the film was comedy) as with this version she’s actually concerned with wanting to keep Carrie safe and loves her.
Chris and Billy were over the top and her makeup made her look like a failing socialite in her 30s
I’m pretty sure the woman in a girl walks home alone at night never killed someone who was innocent, at least on screen.
She stumbled on Arash’s dad doing something pretty horrible when she killed him.
Good list
Is Carrie really the villain?
AvP was good. Don't care what anyone says
It was good, it just wasn't an Alien or a Predator film and that annoyed people. I didn't grow up with them so I just enjoyed the shiz out of it.
@@dannygornall827 yeah it was good
I'd argue it was very fun. That doesn't inherently make it "good" but it certainly keeps it entertaining. Personally, though I may be in the extreme minority, I had a ton of fun with AVP 2 as well. Many would argue it was a bad film, but I have zero regrets watching it and enjoyed my time. I'd even argue it was plenty better than The Predator as well!
@@adamluther5836 did u like Prey?
@@partofthetribe3277 I enjoyed it immensely, far more than I even expected I would. I think it's probably my favorite in the entire franchise after the original.
Should I see The Duel? I feel like I'd like it.
I think so
It's been some time but I remember it being a very tense movie from start to finish.
it's aged really well, sounds like it would get boring after a while, but deeply suspenseful
It had suspense.
So a girl who is insanely bullied day in day out, is a villain now is she. Carrie is the hero, end of really.
She’s neither. She isn’t a villain, but is also certainly no hero.
What about in Predator 2 when the Predator spares a child after scanning his weapons and seeing they are toys? He even coos at the child adoringly before taking off.
I’ve seen a theory for the Menu where there is a previous scene regarding the meat that is used at the island that it is very precisely aged and if it is over aged by even a couple of hours, it becomes poisonous. The theory is that the meat used for the burger had crossed this threshold and while she makes it off the island and isn’t burned alive with everyone else, she still does from food poisoning as she continues to eat the burger on the boat at the end. Mental to think about but I kinda like the implication she still dies just not in the horrific way the others do. He gives her the honour of a simpler death due to her giving back his purpose.
Good video!
Didnt the chick ALSO get away because she hadnt done anything to the chef?? Or am I remembering wrong?
Also because she wasn't on the list. The original person bailed, so the other guy hired her as a escort.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Hanibal Lecter and Clarice Starling run off together in the book. She never handcuffs his hand. They only did that for the movie.
Of course Chucky avenged Nica. "He's not a monster, Jake!"
Then Nika changes her name to Bart
I thought when jason didnt kill the praying girl in jason lives should have made the list instead of part eihht.
I saw a really long film called US Presidential Election 2020. The sidekick to the main villain had been sycophantic throughout, but when the dark lord (this had to be a work of fantasy) asked the sidekick to do his bidding one last time in a desperate bid to overturn the election result, the sidekick did the right thing and acted with honour & decency for the first time. It was an act that cast the dark lord into the wilderness for several years, though I've heard they're planning a sequel with the sidekick recast.
I think that we are supposed to take Margo's leaving more as her manipulating Slovik's delusion than him sparing her, but then again making a whole scene about being "fucking hungry" and then claiming to be full after a single cheesburger bite is so grotesque (to be kind) that we can consider it as Slovik letting her go.
8:45 just FYI Slowik is a Polish surname.
Carrie White was not a villian.
Carrie is more like a force of nature.
Art gave Sienna her bag after she left it upstairs
To this day, the only two humans (this movie and in the comics) to have earned tribal status with the Predator race have been women.
Professionals have standards.
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yassss, I've been waiting for The Menu to be on a list!! Seriously underrated film.
Edit: excuse you, The Girl NEVER feeds on the innocent.
Carver in Thanksgiving wasn't an "evil" villain. It was a distraught revenge situation. He was doing evil things, but felt he was justified by his vengeance mission. Doesn't count.
I’d argue killing innocent people is evil. (Innocent in that they didn’t directly kill Amanda, they were just a part of the riot that did).
he killed innocent people who had nothing to do with the situation
An eye for an eye makes the world go blind
I didn’t feel remorse for his lover after all she was having an affair with him
The dachshund in ANGST (1983)
Whichever Arnell cousin is in The Babysitter should have been on this list
If I remember correctly Arash was also not abusive towards women contrery to the other men she feeds on.
I just thought it was respect that he had for her.... he is a psycho but one of those top tier ones that spot excellence in others. Thats why he does the orchestra player, they kept playing flat... no excellence, no respect therefore equals death.... and dinner
Haha. I don't think that is how you pronounce "Desjardin", but i could be wrong
Carrie is NOT the villain of the movie!
murdering hundreds of people is evil
John Kramer in Saw sometimes?
Carrie doesn't fit either. Also a revenge flick
Carrie's not a Villain. She's a Victim of bullying and had the courage to protect and stand up for herself. Who she killed are the Villains.
Yes first
The original crew of The event horizon went to Neptune to go film a p**** now look what happened
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Predators are not evil/villain to begin with lol they are hunters/warriors
I was gonna say; they have morals and protocols, it's just that they don't align with our morals. In the Predator's (I refuse to call them that ridiculous name from the comics) world it did nothing wrong at any point.
Do we have to agree with it, as humans? No. But you may as well label a lion as a villain for attacking an antelope.
Carrie's mom is the villain in Carrie.
That Valiant would have been able to lose the truck by miles if he had really tried.
Psychopaths are capable of feeling emotions like empathy as long as they don’t have anti-social personality disorder. It’s the sociopaths that are in able to show true emotions and empathy
Other way around. Psychopaths are nature, sociopaths are nurture. Sociopaths have a stunted but still detectable level of empathy and concern. Psychopaths have to learn to fake empathy. Also, being a sociopath/psychopath doesn't mean that you will wind up hurting people... just that your empathy is blunted or absent.
he knew they only do but stuff xD
Hannibal Lector is evil by our standards, but he has a pretty complex code of honor. He doesn't look at things in a good or evil way. People aren't expendable in his world view. If they are in his way, he will kill them. If they piss him off, he will kill them badly. But he doesn't stalk people and pick them off like a typical serial killer or movie monster. He would just as soon as brighten a child's day as slice the femoral artery of a pickpocket.
I hated that part! Hollywood sucks.
Hannibal would have immediately cut off Clarice's hand since SHE was the one who chose to play a stupid game. Wrecked the whole movie for me.
Wrote a story one time wherein a group of psychopaths broke into a family's home and did horrible things to them. While sitting on the family's living room couch a few hours later, covered in their remains and smoking a cigarette, the leader of the merry band of maniacs noticed a kitten that belonged to the little girl was still alive and playing with his shoelaces. He pet the kitty and got it some tuna, explicitly taking perverse joy in allowing it to live solely as an affirmation of his power over life and death.
Later at his house, the leader is...gratifying himself over the memories of what he and his friends did that night, and suddenly climaxes upon remembering that he asked one of them to burn down the house to remove all evidence of them being there...but neglected to mention the kitten eating tuna in the kitchen.
will ferrel produced the menu? God, that movie sucks so hard, and I don't get how with such a talented production team they make such a huge stinker.
First!!! Yes, I’m finally first!! Look at me Daddy!! Are you proud now? Please come back home, I‘ve stocked up on milk and cigarettes!!! You never have to leave again!!!!
DADDY!!!!
Clarice Starling is not Hannibal Lector’s rival, not even close. Will Graham would be Hannibal’s rival, he’s pretty much the polar opposite or Lector, and just as intelligent.
Joel - It's when Clarice, in an almost stream-of-consciousness recollection, tells Dr. Lecter about trying to save that single lamb, of the bitter cold of the night, its weight in her arms, and of then being caught by her angry uncle and having 'her' lamb forcibly taken from her.
Clarice's honesty (and revealing of her recollected anguish) strikes Hannibal's heart like an arrow (😉), and it's *then* that he becomes truly 'enamored' with her.
The tears, shining in his eyes, as he thanks Clarice, speak volumes...
Pinhead sparing Tiffany (initially) in Hellraiser 2. "It is not hands that summon us, it is... desire."
Yup. As his human self says in 3, "Hell has its commandments too." ::holds up a replica box signed by Doug, Ashley, and Terry::::