Add DIY Bass Shakers To Your Sim Rig!!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2020
- This is an easy way and cost effective way to add bass shakers to your sim rig. I would highly recommend this setup if you are planning to add shakers to your rig and are looking for a budget option.
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That's the wieldiest wire connection I've ever seen in my life time, it is so easy to do yet you made it so very complicated. lol! But other than that, thanks for the video, it did give me some ideas. :)
This is awesome, looking forward to the follow up video!
Thanks man, you made me real happy with this video, in am building a sim rig at the moment, this is really helpfull, cheers! ( your soldering skills are netter then mine too, so i learned from that to)
Glad I could help! Good luck with the rig!
Thank you for this video! Im building a motion simulator and trying to figure out how to add bass shaker to the rig and this with your diagram helped a lot.
If I wanted to add 4 bass shakers, do I need an another sound card? And can I use an external cheap usb sound card?
Nice guide, i've got four of them now. I've also got 2 rumble motor's on my pedals. These are also a 'must' have. As they actually let you feel when ABS kicks in. Easy to set up, not expensive if you have an old controller laying around.
I might have to look into rumble motors, but I worry about rattling like with the bass shakers. What pedals do you have and do the motors get noisy?
@@thevmediagroupgaming they're not that loud. You can not hear them when racing ... I'm using the pedals from a g27. (Which have new springs) i've used a guide from someone on youtube named 'amstudio'
@@tzwientjuh amstudio is dope. I have a few projects I intend on trying out from him. The pedal shakers should be easy enough to adapt to the Thrustmaster pedals, so I might have to give that a shot.
Would you say those get very hot under use on simulation? Its safe to use under the synthetic leather playseat?
@@mc1996 they get warm but not hot. And it's the top that's gets warm, not the part that's connected to the seat ;)
Half a vid on how to solder wires together? But thanks for the SimHub info, that was helpful.
Brilliant name
awesome, found a USB powered solution, so now I can hook two of these up to my oculus quest with a headphone splitter and get a haptic vest in my wireless setup for like 50 bucks.
Flux and tinning your wires makes all the difference when soldering.
Everyone else : heat wrap / shrink wrap
South Africans : heat shrink 😂
Solder a connector on the wire si it’s easier to replace the bass shaker.
First solder on the wire
does it have to be stereo wire? can it be a different wire?
Hi, good video. One question , can I configure my Bessdumper on pc and use in a ps4 ?!
To my knowledge, that isn't possible with this setup. Other setups I've seen for console seemingly just take the audio signal from the subwoofer channel of their audio device and use it for the shakers. So it might give you the elusion of a bass shaker setup, but since its using an audio channel and not telemetry data from an application like Sim Hub, it won't be as accurate.
Hi.
Great video, this is the best complete guide available.
The shakers on the pedal box are just double taped? Do they hold on OK? The vertical position don't effect the performance?
Do you really need a second sound card? I have read you can use a Y style splitter on the headphone source line or even the monitor AUX output if its available (HDMI or DP connection needed).
Cannot wait for my shaker (only one for tests for now, will add at least a second one if all works fine) and amplifier to arrive :D
There are a lot of questions here, but I’ll try to answer them. :) The shakers on the pedals were double sided taped on there. I have since removed them and put them underneath the platform. Vertical positioning doesn’t affect performance. You do need a second sound card so that you can drive your sound and shakers independently.
@@thevmediagroupgaming Thank you for the reply :)
I will try the double side tape on one of the side metal plates of my Playseat Evolution. If it feels weak i will try to mount it on the under seat padding. I have done a couple of test with my phone vibration (LOL) and on the padding its way more noticeable than on the playseat frame. I guess one of those, with 15W and connected to one 20W amplifier, have to be much stronger than one smartphone vibration, so it may be OK even on the frame.
@@thevmediagroupgaming Just a little update:
Using the monitor AUX connection works just fine, can point SimHUB to use it and leave my headphones output just fine :)
Thank you for the help.
@@mc1996 I also thought of that idea, so does using normal aux for headphones and monitor aux for bass shakers work?
@@viktorskorpi7624 100%. Running my just fine. Such a difference with the shaker, do it :)
Curious, can you take advantage of using two shakers mounted vertically but at 90°, so you get left right and front back vibrations. Not sure if that app would let you use waveforms to bump you in a certain direction almost like a Gforce. If it pounded in one direction, rolled off and then hit again in succession.
I don't believe that is possible. That said, even if it was, I think the positioning with these small shakers to get that effect wouldn't be very good and it wouldn't really give you reliable/realistic feel.
Use the wire stripper the other way around and you will get a much easier strip and the rotation probably wouldn't be needed.
Will you review the latest SHAKE KIT from Simracing Studio ?. . . It appears the only thing out there for this purpose (meaning a seat pad ) for $430... do you know of anything else ? Looks like all the other products have been disappeared.
Unfortunately I doubt I'll be reviewing that. Unless you know someone who wants to send me one for free. ;)
Hello. Good job. I ordered an fosi BT30D to activ 3 bass shakers. Do you think it will be OK or should I return it. What kind of bass shaker can I use with it. Thank you very much
It looks like the BT30D is 50 watts per channel, compared to the 18 watts on the Kinter amp. But the price is also much higher. So you get more power for your money but depending on your bass shakers, you don't want to accidentally overpower them. As long as you don't do that, they should be fine.
@@thevmediagroupgaming thank you very much
hi there, i have two questions: 1) why is the sound card necessary? 2) I saw a post on reddit that has this same setup with this amp and 4 of the bass shakers. Is it possible to install 4 bass shakers into this one amp? Thanks!
Two sound cards are needed so that one can play the game sound and so the other can drive the shakers. Using a single sound card with a splitter won't give the same effect. Technically you could likely hook up 4 shakers to a single amp. However, you won't be able to get detail from each corner as the amp is only 2 channels. So each pair of shakers would have the same signal. So you would want either two two channel amps or a single 4 channel amp to drive the shakers.
Do I NEED a sound card or is my 3.5mm jack good? I use VR so it's fine if I loose a jack
A single jack will work assuming no other sound is running through it. However, since it's a single jack and not 3 (aka 5.1 surround) you're limited on what you can adjust since you don't have separate channels (center, front, rear).
will a 3.5mm splitter work instead of another sound card?
have you tried it? or a usb soundcard?
I've got a single buttkicker on my seat and just ordered one of these Daytons, I wonder how much difference there will be when comparing the vibration power? For the price I paid for the buttkicker I could have got 4 pucks, the amp and psu and still have money for a CPU cooler or something.
Keep me posted when you find out, I'd be curious as well. I usually take a DIY approach to my projects, and specifically in this case to save a bunch of money, but sometimes paying for a great product is better than a DIY project in the long run. I don't know that I could justify the cost since I don't race as much as I'd like to, but I'm still interested in the comparison.
Updates?
@Kirti Rana I've now got 2 more pucks, they are very good but don't get the same power and frequency punch as the mini concert from BKer. If I didn't already have the BKer I'd certainly be happy with the pucks.
I have gpu 3070 and pc .do i need the extra sound card or can i just connect it to the pc 3.5 out put?.my monitor have 3.5 mm out put as well
If you are using the same sound card (built in or not) for your PC sound as the shakers, you won't be able to tune the shakers independently of the game sound. That's the reason for a secondary sound card.
@@thevmediagroupgaming ok thanks good to know, btw whats a good app for flight simming. loooks like simhub dont have one for flight sim games.can i just use the sound directly with out an app.i guess i cant control or fine tune the sounds right?
If I buy 4 channels amplifier, can I add 4 shackers? Correct? Front left-right and rear left-right
Not really. It depends on the sound card more than the amp. For example, a 5.1 surround sound card gives you 6 channels. So when you plug your cable from the amp into one of the 3 jacks on the sound card (each jack containing a left/right channel) you effectively get two channels. So if you plug-in a 4 channel amp to a 2 channel output, the amp is going to use the same left and right output on two of the channels. Using your example, if you plugged your 4 channel amp into the front speaker jack on the sound card, you’d end up with two front left shakers and two front right shakers. In sim hub (or similar softwares), your controlling the channels on the sound card and not the amp, so there wouldn’t be a way to tell the amp otherwise.
@@thevmediagroupgaming got it, thank you for explanation, my situation more interesting, I have xbox s, and I have buttkicker, but want to add 4 more shakers for wheel imitation, so 1 buttkicker in center and 4 shockers on conners
Little confused. You can have 2 soundcards working at same time???
Correct.
you mention needing a second sound card, is this the case too if i don't use my motherboard's and case front aux outputs?
Also, there is a 16 ohm version of the shaker, which if i understand correctly should have more range?
The motherboard's built in sound (rear and front panel) are likely the same channels. So if you have a sound card that you are using for your game sound and want to use the motherboard for your shakers (or the other way around) you could definitely do that. In regard to the 8 vs 16 ohm shaker, I haven't done a bunch of digging on that, but I would assume that they will both be fairly similar in performance given the price.
is there a way to use them with normal music?...and not just sim racing
Absolutely! However in that case you may want to start looking into how people set these up with their home theater systems because I don't have experience in that area.
@@thevmediagroupgaming ohhh oki thanks alot man:):)
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Whats the difference in shakiness between 8ihm or 16ohm for the transducers? Is the tape strong enough to keep tyhem attached on the surface?? Thx
To be honest, I don't recall the difference between 8ohm and 16ohm other than. From what I do recall, is that it has to do with the difference in the way the wire is wound around the voice coil. That may or may not be true. The only thing that seems to be of consensus is that if you have an 8ohm speaker, you should have an 8ohm amp. Same goes for 16ohm. As for the tape, It is strong enough to keep them attached. While I removed the shakers from my pedal deck and move them to the front of the rig with screws, the rears are mounted with double-sided tape to the back of my fiberglass seat and they have been solid since day one. Just make sure to clean the surface with soap/water or rubbing alcohol first to make sure you get the best contact when you stick them on.
@@thevmediagroupgaming do the tape isolate the vibration or is it acceptable.thanks tho.
@@bigskill80 The vibration still feels good. I have the front and rear at the same level and both feel great.
You will notice "Rumble" is marked as not compatible with your current game.
Where's the follow up we were promised? 😔
Soldering without flux can be a frustrating nightmare.
I'm in the process of doing this to my setup, but I also came across these for mounting my pucks to under my seat and pedal box.
www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-smrk-2-surface-mounting-ring-kit-for-tt25-puck-mini-bass-shaker--300-3882
I saw those as well. Let me know how they work for you. The only reason I didn't use those is because some people were saying that it reduces the overall contact with whatever you're mounting the shakers to and so they're not as powerful.
I just used a splitter to connect my speakers and the bass shakers so you dont need a 2nd soundcard
You can do that, but your sound and the vibration setup is on the same channel then. By using a different sound card, you have control over the channels independently.