I heard this one before. The nerve of her to say that. Also the nerve of the marriage counselor to say op "drove" her to cheat. He should go after her license.
A Marriage Counselor is NOT a therapist (though many do hold such credentials). But it is not a clinically accepted therapeutic endeavor, it is a mediation. Mediations, by definition, require some concession on both sides. Their primary job is to de-escalate. This leads to some interesting dynamics. Usually, they will appear to side with whomever they deem to be the least rational, to reign them in. As long as you maintain your composure, respond rationally to questions, you'll be fine. But it will feel exactly the opposite of that. As counter-intuitive as it seems, if you feel attacked in that scenario, you're "winning", lol. Conversely, if they are validating you with some carefully chosen phrasing and then start finishing the thought for you with some generic phrase like "..and to expand on that", you are losing. They think you're fucking cuckoo for coco puffs. They want to put the irrational person at ease, and get the more rational person to express some emotion their spouse might empathize with. It's very much the opposite of what it seems, unless one party is just blatantly bat-shit crazy, or becomes belligerent. And it may be unfair to characterize it as "winning" or "losing", their duty is to the marriage, not either party, it isn't supposed to be adversarial. But if one party is merely humoring the other, the preservation of the marriage is out the window anyway, it is inherently adversarial at that point (as it was here). It sounds like the counselor was actually on OP's side, but his short, dry, emotionless responses weren't conducive to any resolution (as per his lawyer's intent). I work in legal discovery. These session records, while confidential, do often get used in litigation, meaning I see the unredacted copies of everything. The stereotype of them always taking a side is only true in the verbal discussions, they do that intentionally to steer the conversation, but that sure as hell isn't what they write down in their notes, lol. It's so universal, they must be trained to do this. They speak favorably of the less credible party in session, then write the exact opposite in their findings. But their clients don't see the other side of that, so it does make them look biased from that perspective.
It never fails. No one is better at tearing down a woman than another woman. 🤪 Also, the fact that he was forced to go to marriage counseling because of that cake is _bullshit._
ST1 Her co-workers are just as bad if not worse. They encouraged her actions and behaviour and then they extort her, those co workers are plain nasty bullies who were probably the mean girls in school and never bothered to grow up.
2nd Story: "Catching your brother trying to break in on camera is next-level crazy! Good on you for being prepared and setting those boundaries. You don't owe them a cent more after what they already got."
second story, the guy had it coming. If you go to someones house and attempt to break in, of course people start to consider you as a thief and want to pull away from you
Pretty entitled of him to think that all the stuff his sister found in “her” house should be split 3 ways when they ended up with more than she did. If mom had wanted it split between her children, she would have specified it in her will!
@@thestalker67yea, I’m not gonna borrow money from someone who thinks I am a greedy bish, cause if I can’t pay it back by the time they want it, they could try to take my house or put a lien on it. They are the greedy ones. Mom specified what each child got and the other two want what OP got as part of her inheritance too! She was the one to give up her free time to help take care of their mother and mom made sure she got “paid”for that by leaving all that money stashed away in odd places.
I heard this one before. The nerve of her to say that. Also the nerve of the marriage counselor to say op "drove" her to cheat. He should go after her license.
Cheaters are allergic to accountability
Marriage counselor duty is save marriage ........ they don't care about anything
@@saravananrs6563 yup they have a ratio to maintain, not a duty to make people's life better
Marriage counsellor is a cheat. That type of gaslighting is typical of those that do whatever they want and blame everyone else for their choices.
A Marriage Counselor is NOT a therapist (though many do hold such credentials). But it is not a clinically accepted therapeutic endeavor, it is a mediation. Mediations, by definition, require some concession on both sides. Their primary job is to de-escalate.
This leads to some interesting dynamics. Usually, they will appear to side with whomever they deem to be the least rational, to reign them in. As long as you maintain your composure, respond rationally to questions, you'll be fine. But it will feel exactly the opposite of that. As counter-intuitive as it seems, if you feel attacked in that scenario, you're "winning", lol.
Conversely, if they are validating you with some carefully chosen phrasing and then start finishing the thought for you with some generic phrase like "..and to expand on that", you are losing. They think you're fucking cuckoo for coco puffs.
They want to put the irrational person at ease, and get the more rational person to express some emotion their spouse might empathize with. It's very much the opposite of what it seems, unless one party is just blatantly bat-shit crazy, or becomes belligerent.
And it may be unfair to characterize it as "winning" or "losing", their duty is to the marriage, not either party, it isn't supposed to be adversarial. But if one party is merely humoring the other, the preservation of the marriage is out the window anyway, it is inherently adversarial at that point (as it was here).
It sounds like the counselor was actually on OP's side, but his short, dry, emotionless responses weren't conducive to any resolution (as per his lawyer's intent).
I work in legal discovery. These session records, while confidential, do often get used in litigation, meaning I see the unredacted copies of everything. The stereotype of them always taking a side is only true in the verbal discussions, they do that intentionally to steer the conversation, but that sure as hell isn't what they write down in their notes, lol. It's so universal, they must be trained to do this. They speak favorably of the less credible party in session, then write the exact opposite in their findings. But their clients don't see the other side of that, so it does make them look biased from that perspective.
If my marriage counselor told me I drove my spouse to cheat, I'd be in prison for playing basketball with their head
I’d consider suing and reporting them for malpractice.
@@princessmarlena1359 yeah... but scoring a three pointer with someone's skull?
And i would play with you my friend
That's one way to look at it! It really shows how absurd the situation was.
It never fails. No one is better at tearing down a woman than another woman. 🤪
Also, the fact that he was forced to go to marriage counseling because of that cake is _bullshit._
Many state you have to attend marriage counseling before divorce
Tell me about it
True, the idea that he was forced into counseling over the cake incident is pretty outrageous.
That's a great stance to take. Listen to the two women who are divorced for relationship advice.
/smh
Yeah, ironic how taking advice from two divorced women can lead to such outcomes. 🙄
ST1
Her co-workers are just as bad if not worse.
They encouraged her actions and behaviour and then they extort her, those co workers are plain nasty bullies who were probably the mean girls in school and never bothered to grow up.
2nd Story: "Catching your brother trying to break in on camera is next-level crazy! Good on you for being prepared and setting those boundaries. You don't owe them a cent more after what they already got."
second story, the guy had it coming. If you go to someones house and attempt to break in, of course people start to consider you as a thief and want to pull away from you
Pretty entitled of him to think that all the stuff his sister found in “her” house should be split 3 ways when they ended up with more than she did. If mom had wanted it split between her children, she would have specified it in her will!
Heard this story before there’s more updates like her getting fired same with the friends and boss. Op contacts the bosses wife as well
This is the kind of entitlement that if u find anything valuable we get a share but if u get less then them then they will not help u cover the cost
They offered money
@@thestalker67They offered to lend her money, not give it to her.
@@thestalker67yea, I’m not gonna borrow money from someone who thinks I am a greedy bish, cause if I can’t pay it back by the time they want it, they could try to take my house or put a lien on it. They are the greedy ones. Mom specified what each child got and the other two want what OP got as part of her inheritance too! She was the one to give up her free time to help take care of their mother and mom made sure she got “paid”for that by leaving all that money stashed away in odd places.
I love how his mom left him with so much fucking money in secret. Thats so funny
There is a saying I have been hearing recently, single women are being kept single by other single women.
Women are their own worst enemies!
Sveral of her coworkers berated her? Lol i dont believe that.