@@briananeuraysem3321 40 years ago there were no actual separate graphics cards for home computers and the Commodore 64 was the peak of technology. It would be arguably the most powerful one in the very early 00's seeing as it can play the vast majority of those games at pretty much full settings at 1080p without breaking a sweat and even many Xbox 360 and PS3 era games at pretty high settings.
I live in South America where tech is usually rarer and more expensive than in the US or other parts of the world. Back in 2013 i was gifted my first PC with a GT 610 and I literally played everything with it along with a really old Athlon. Nowadays I have a 2060S and although the GT610 is really outdated I respect it for all the things I did with it
I feel the same for my trusty old laptops, one Compaq armada 110 from 2001 that took me through a few years playing Myyh 2 soulblighter in a chair in a corridor as I hooked the common telephone line to play online....
It is easy to forget how awesome tech is just because more powerful alternatives exist. Cards like the GT 610 could and to some degree still can do a lot, especially in the hands of someone savvy enough to use it properly. I hope that you enjoyed it, and that you are having an awesome time with that 2060S of yours 👍🏻
Had a GT 635M back in 2013 and i'm now on a desktop computer with an RTX 2070 from Inno3D. I miss the old laptop mostly because the ASUS N56VJ had good sound as it had an external subwoofer. ☺
Same, back then i had the GTX 550 Ti, it was great but till the year 2020s started to struggle in some games, because of etherium going bad at 2022, i could finally afford an RX 580 8Gb for the cheapest price after about 5 years having one. Just handled all the dust, repasting and changing the thermal pads. It was an Sapphire Nitro+ one with an 8 pin and 6 pin pcie
@@UZmanz yeah as the results of the premiums are obvious even if they might not always run as they should. I don't build computers often these days, but I used to enjoy building old systems and testing what they can actually do for example I managed to have a running but stuttering gameplay of crysis with an old sempron and gt 610 😆. Even overclocking old stuff where applicable is more fun.
@@avishekmitra3698 because 1030 has decent performance GDDR5 version 710 is faster than DDR3, but 710 has bottleneck both of DDR3 and GDDR5 version like 64bit, 192 cuda cores so not much improvement between both for most of games
Yay, the e-waste wars! BTW, I'd love to see you review Intel Arc A380 if you can get your hands on one. Intel seems to be working hard to get their drivers in order and whenever A380 pops up it's usually incredibly affordable and the hardware seems pretty impressive on paper - it just not always works as it should, but most of the coverage it got, back when it first debuted, is likely outdated at this point.
Yeah I hope they fix the DX10/DX9 issues it seems like the card runs as intended for newer games with DX12 but has problems with older games. Seeing as I would use this card more with older games it looses its value there if they don't fix it.
Your dedication to potato science & research is commendable. I definitely recommend testing the GDDR5 versions to educate the viewers on the importance of memory bandwidth.
Thanks for this video, fun showdown. I've never had one of the 10s. I do have a 730, which is not a fast card, but given the minimal power draw it's worked great for its purpose.
Back in the day i could not afford a gamer PC, so i had the gt 610 paired with an i3 2130 and 4 gb of Ram, sure it was a pretty low end system but allowed me to play csgo and left 4 dead with my friends. Even on Windows 8 with an slow HDD lol, those were the days
They are obviously good for a cheap(ish) hdmi display option, but also for retro games. The one thing I like about the 710 is that it seems to be the only gpu I have had or even found that has a pciex1 style connector that is of a modern sorta generation.
@@whitekong316 My dad's old Core 2 Duo got a pretty big boost from a GT 710. The on board was so bad that it struggled with 480p TH-cam. Whilst it doesn't solve how slow it is, or what games he can play(the last game he played was the original Worms for Amiga in 1995), it does let him watch TH-cam and Netflix at 1080p.
Is also worth noting that the 710 has hardware compressed video encoding/decoding. This will give much smoother playback for internet videos and such, especially if there's any kind of overlay such as subtitles. It's will also speed up video encoding if you still like to burn DVDs, or indeed, if you have a DVD collection you'd like to rip to your hard disk into a format using more economic compression.
You probably won't see a big difference in internet videos because the browser consumes too much CPU regardless. But the GPUs can play 2 high bitrate movies with CABAC simultaneously in Media Player Classic Homecinema. It works on a Pentium 4 in WinXP with overlay mixer. The quality of NVENC is terrible for ripping at typical bitrates.
@@j7ndominica051 I've used this method for my dad's old Core 2 Duo, it works perfectly fine. He watches web video on multiple sites at 1080p which get gratuitous screen tearing without it. It also helps smooth out playback for .mkv files that contain software subs massively.
Would be interesting to see the 710 GDDR5 as proposed! And it would be a nice addition if you could crank up resolution and details for each card in order to just hit playable framerates (probably possible for the 710s only...).
If you have a Windows XP compatible system (I think Sandy Bridge and older) I’d love to see you do some Windows XP benchmarks with these cards. I’ve seen a lot of folks in the retro community who like the 710 in particular for XP builds, if they’re not trying to use period correct hardware.
Although these are terrible GPUs but i remember back in 2014 when life was great, come home from Uni, fire up Battlefield 3/4 and game on till AM, and when i upgraded to i5 4460 i was king of the world, simpler times
Back in 2014, i was very desesperate to play the newly released GTA V. I actually finished the game with my GT610... I remember playing at 800x600, lowest settings possible, no res scaling (i think we didn't have that option yet back then). Around 15 to 20fps. But somehow I managed to get through the entire story mode.. lol! Today, with my Ryzen 7/3060ti setup, even with every AAA game available today, i feel like i have "nothing to play".. then I look back at those days when i had my old gt610, that i bought with every penny i had at that moment, and played so many games with it... those were the days!
I liked seeing these look back in time cards. It always interests me to see how things have evolved by a trip back in time. I would very much like to see the 2 GB variants of these compared as well.
I had a GT710 that was put into a dell office pc for such a long time. When I finally upgraded to an Ryzen iGPU, I was blown away by having a solid 30+fps at normal settings in GTAV.
One who's looking to play light games with these cards must note that there are Fermi and Kepler variants in the 6 and 700 series which give a huge performance difference
A bit of nostalgia for me on hearing GT610. In 2015 my parents finally agreed to give me a personal PC and they asked a private system integrator (local shop kinda) to make a PC under budget and i received an i3 4150 and GT610 with 4 gigs of RAM and man i played the hell out of it. Watch Dogs, Crysis 3 and GTA5 all at an average of 15-22FPS and i was able to complete them lol. Nostalgia
GT 710 is a great way to take an ivy bridge or older system to at least a modern level of web browsing performance. My Dell Optiplex 7010 sff has one, and I have an i7-3770, 16gb of ram, 128gb ssd, 1.5tb hdd. Runs a plex server too. Dual screens. Windows 11 22h2 runs great too using Microsoft's approved registry key.
Just a few years back, in 2020, ASUS released a passive cooling- fanless 710 with GDDR5 and 4 HDMI video outputs. I have one. The thing is great for an older computer (mine is 4770s) connected to multiple monitors. Power draw is ridiculously low and it's completely quiet. Absolutely not for gaming but for productivity it is a fantastic tool. I have three monitors and a projector attached. It was very inexpensive- 80 USD if I recall brand new. I hope in the future it runs well with Windows 11.
Because of these kind of tests I subscribed to your channel. Its great to see that someone do it. 🙂 I.e. this test, I miss this from some of the big channels, they are almost never testing old cards or low end products. Or try to game on low settings. Because of you I realised with how low settings and cheap/old parts you can do gaming today. I am really happy with this development of the hardware market. In the past you could throw away your hardware after 1-3 years, because the performance increase was so high. So many people can have fun in games with their low end (by todays standards)/office/multimedia PCs. 🙂
Big Channels ar3e garbage imo . I prefer to see how the real world reacts/acts with gear . As a tech i find it more interesting and knowledgeable to see how the Plebs work if you will . Better to know thy enemy then be ignorant of . Ive been a tech since the late 80s and its rare for me to come across an actual High End system .. Those who have such things Fix it themselves . In all my years ive had 2-3 high end system come on fore work ... its always Junk if you will and those who own it require Low End bang for the buck . So knowing whats available, the specs and results is Really helpful .. Ive only got So much gear to test so others doing it greatly increases my ability to Help . Cheers .
@@fetus2280 This was/is also my experience. I fixed more low end/AiO/desktop PCs and laptops than everything else. One of my best experiences was with a netbook, it was the easiest full disassembly in my life back then. 😅 Sadly I had scraped a lot of PC parts, but I kept my first mainboard/CPU. (AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800 (AM2) & MSI K9NU) I cant throw them away.
@@SmokeMastaP Nice .. all i have left from my first real pc is the CPU . AMD K6-2 . Ive got a stack of my old laptops waiting for some loving and put back to work . I collect old system and have for a few years, those old AMDs are what im looking for now , Lucky mate, thats on my list :) Im going for the whole range/progression in the pc space and have a system from all eras, getting there slowly .Cheers.
@@fetus2280 The idea of rebuilding my old system comes from time to time in my head. Maybe then I could play retro games like Project IGI (1 & 2) or Command Aces of the Deep again. (where is the next Silent Hunter?? 😕)
@@SmokeMastaP Hell ya .. for me its Diablo 1 and Hellfire Multiplayer Mod and some P.O.E mods for Battlefield . I still recall those days when i was Begging for more Ram to get me up to 16mb of memory. How times have changed eh lol
I have a GT 730, the DDR3 version, and the poor GPU is suffering a lot from the lack of bandwitdh, even after pushing memory clocks as hard as i could. Comparing the DDR3 vs GDDR3-5 would be cool considering that
Definitely like to see the difference between DDR3 and DDR5 models. A lot of decent/old low-end cards were forgot simply because people didn't know there was a DDR5 model.
Any decent CPU would result in the graphics cards being the limiting factor. It's only if you have a really bad processor - like worse than a Core 2 Quad/high end Core 2 Duo that you'll see these GPUs outperforming the respective CPUs.
@@TheSpotify95 1630 was overhyped e-waste-at-launch. And no, there wasn't that much fanfare but it didn't even deserve what anticipation it got. The fact that it is a full size card 2 slots thick is simply insulting to SFF users and anyone who cares about efficiency, as its performance per watt (and per dollar) is atrocious by today's standards. The weird part is that nVidia actually had better, smaller, more efficient cards out already. The T600 and T1000 are leaps and bounds ahead of the 1630. Hell, the T400 might even beat it. GTX 1630 is bullshit, which seems to be what nVidia has pivoted towards selling (DLSS 3).
2:18 I thought so as well at first, but when you calculate the percentage gain the GT 610 is ~59% faster than the -GT- GeForce 210 and the GT 710 is ~47% faster than the former - just doesn't look as impressive, as both are low. But then again the -GT- GeForce 210 and GT 610 are 3 generations and 2 (? Fermi, Kepler) micro-architectures apart, so one would normally expect a bigger gap.
I remember the GeForce 210, my first graphics card, I was using it with a core 2 duo, I was amazed by the performance since I was coming from a integrated gpu.. now i have a decent rig, but the g210 still hold a special place.
I agree. Last year I got a true bargain with 710 2gb DDR5. Previously to install it in my HTPC, I did some benchmarks with my GT 710 DDR5 and I was nicely surprised by its results.
Battle of the 710's sounds interesting. I think I've said it before on this channel but the GT 710 is a great card for extending the life of older core 2 duo/quad systems
the best way to extend them is getting a new system, such tech was passable time ago, nowdays its too old, yea sure a q6600 with a gtx 550 ti can do... some things, but thats about it.. and its time to let it go
8:09 YES!!!!!! I'd also like to see a video pairing a really cheap card with something like a raspberry pi400 or other SBC to match the most ideal low power, cheap card with the SBC.
G'day Random Steve, Love these Random GPUs forgotten by most channels videos 🤔From memory you got a HD5450, so how about that vs the GT710 DDR5 & another ATi/AMD one from the box with a round up for both videos at the end?
I have a GT 610 we used in a mini-ITX HTPC about a decade ago, decent card for bluray playback.... compared to the sandy bridge iGPU. I keep it around as a troubleshooting tool in case I find a PC that won't output video.
Tech YES City did a brief review of an Asian market GPU. The AMD RX 6600M card, which has a laptop GPU for it's core. Have you thought about giving one of them a go? I know you've tested AFox cards recently. And, like me, you seem to enjoy testing some of the more obscure hardware. As always, cheers and best wishes from Alaska.
Thanks for these tests. I recently browsed for low-profile cards for my mom's PC. I guess it will be good for watching videos and basic office tasks. Her PC has a nice i5 CPU, so the performance will be better? Sadly here even the GT730 is 85 EUR, so I hope video card prices will go down. :/
Funny to see a GT710 looking like the best card in a comparison. I have a 2gb DDR3 GT710 myself, and I should have gotten the 1gb DDR3 GT730 when I got the 710. Would be fun to see more lower end GPUs compared again on a future video. Maybe GT x30 card next time? Like the GT430, GT630, GT730, GT1030.
I have a system at my parent's home with a dual core Intel e8400 and a glorious gt710 1gb gddr5 I only tested it with the original 2011 Skyrim and... it works, which I suppose is more than enough a compliment for that card (in reality it sits unused for months and months... What a leisurely life )
Could you add tf2 to benchmarks for October potentially as many people would probably like to know as the player count tends to skyrocket for the annual scream fortress event
You should do a tournament..... like the channel Project Farm's Synthetic Oil tournament, but with low end cards. Excluding the GT 1030 GDDR5 model. You could also compare the iGPU in the 5700g to the GTX 560ti
@@RandomGaminginHD Been building some Core2Quad home PC's with any card with HDMI on it. Mostly old AMD ones. Intel drivers are enough for their purpose. All play Valorant though, ha ha. Maybe alsoo Rollblox.
@@corneliusantonius3108 I have at home even Fujitsu GeForce 605 (OEM card, so on GF119 Fermi 610 GT series) with Display Port output. It is well made, it has many sensors, thick PCB. One of the best made that I ever saw. And that card cost me about 20 Euros. :)) Of course usage it it pretty different that modern gaming. Some cards have Firmware suited for DOS usage (interpolation and so on...). ;)
Speaking of older games: Geforce 210 and 710 both also work with Diablo III, but do not try to go with 1080P. At least the 710 will have some stutters, which make the game more or less unplayable in 1080P. It worked quite well with 1366x768 though ;)
Forget gaming, the GT 710 is quite good at NVENC h264 video encoding using ffmpeg. The GT 710 is handy at hardware h264 encoding and if you have an older CPU it will beat x264 encoding.
I still have a GT710 with 2Gb of GDDR5 in my old Core 2 Duo system, and I remember playing the original Bioshock game on it. It ran quite well. I don't remember the settings - probably 720p - and I did not test the frame rate, but I enjoyed playing that game on that PC. So it ran smoothly.
There were a few GT 610 cards with 2 gigs of VRAM-I remember I had a Galax branded one with 2 gigs and a fan that only turned one speed back in the day. I wonder if it was any faster, but I know it was probably the same.
Thing is, under the same 'GT 710' sticker, one may find either a Kepler GPU (the better option) or an older Fermi GPU (the unspeakable horrible option). These kind of cards are good enough though for a video display adapter/video decoding for PCs running on older platforms.
I work in a school where I have purchased all of these cards over the years. They are more definitely not gaming cards for sure, but in 2022 you should under no circumstances be buying a 210 - not only is it seriously old, it doesn't support UEFI boot. Some 610 cards had a revision 2 just in time for Windows 8 and so could support UEFI and Secure Boot. The 710 natively supports UEFI boot. It also has a slightly better video decode engine, so makes for a useful display adapter for extra monitors, though you will be limited to using 2 out of the 3 connectors available as it only supports 2 displays at once. Realistically if you are diving to the bottom of the barrel, a GT1030 makes more sense in 2022. It supports H.265 decode and way more modern DirectX version, even if you only make use of it as a display adapter.
The GT 710 finally looking like a premium card with these results.
First video in years to actually make this card look good! 60fps in games feels like blasphemy!
Go back 40 years and it would be the worlds most powerful graphics card
I was going to write this, you beat me to it, LOL.
These would be good alternatives to older cards if they supported older os's not sure if they do but could be a good option
@@briananeuraysem3321 40 years ago there were no actual separate graphics cards for home computers and the Commodore 64 was the peak of technology. It would be arguably the most powerful one in the very early 00's seeing as it can play the vast majority of those games at pretty much full settings at 1080p without breaking a sweat and even many Xbox 360 and PS3 era games at pretty high settings.
I live in South America where tech is usually rarer and more expensive than in the US or other parts of the world. Back in 2013 i was gifted my first PC with a GT 610 and I literally played everything with it along with a really old Athlon. Nowadays I have a 2060S and although the GT610 is really outdated I respect it for all the things I did with it
I feel the same for my trusty old laptops, one Compaq armada 110 from 2001 that took me through a few years playing Myyh 2 soulblighter in a chair in a corridor as I hooked the common telephone line to play online....
It is easy to forget how awesome tech is just because more powerful alternatives exist. Cards like the GT 610 could and to some degree still can do a lot, especially in the hands of someone savvy enough to use it properly. I hope that you enjoyed it, and that you are having an awesome time with that 2060S of yours 👍🏻
Based Low Budget Gamer o7
Had a GT 635M back in 2013 and i'm now on a desktop computer with an RTX 2070 from Inno3D. I miss the old laptop mostly because the ASUS N56VJ had good sound as it had an external subwoofer. ☺
Same, back then i had the GTX 550 Ti, it was great but till the year 2020s started to struggle in some games, because of etherium going bad at 2022, i could finally afford an RX 580 8Gb for the cheapest price after about 5 years having one. Just handled all the dust, repasting and changing the thermal pads. It was an Sapphire Nitro+ one with an 8 pin and 6 pin pcie
We all knew this was bound to happen after seeing that box of gpus.
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To be honest. I have been waiting for the reviews of these low end cards .
Its much much much more fun than premium cards
@@UZmanz yeah as the results of the premiums are obvious even if they might not always run as they should. I don't build computers often these days, but I used to enjoy building old systems and testing what they can actually do for example I managed to have a running but stuttering gameplay of crysis with an old sempron and gt 610 😆. Even overclocking old stuff where applicable is more fun.
@@UZmanz yeah me too
@@thesilentgametestr i like testing old gpu and cpu to see what they can do on modern games
I would very much like a comparison between the ddr3 and gddr5 variants.
Gamer's Nexus actually compared the more modern D4 and orginal D5 version of the GT 1030 and the results were quite appalling.
@@avishekmitra3698 because 1030 has decent performance
GDDR5 version 710 is faster than DDR3, but 710 has bottleneck both of DDR3 and GDDR5 version like 64bit, 192 cuda cores
so not much improvement between both for most of games
And OC:ing them :)
Yay, the e-waste wars!
BTW, I'd love to see you review Intel Arc A380 if you can get your hands on one. Intel seems to be working hard to get their drivers in order and whenever A380 pops up it's usually incredibly affordable and the hardware seems pretty impressive on paper - it just not always works as it should, but most of the coverage it got, back when it first debuted, is likely outdated at this point.
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If it has HDMI, those "10's" are great video adapters to adapt an older PC to newer times, Been doing that in combination with Core2Quad's
What?? It is already selling here
Yeah I hope they fix the DX10/DX9 issues it seems like the card runs as intended for newer games with DX12 but has problems with older games. Seeing as I would use this card more with older games it looses its value there if they don't fix it.
@@n9s3nse10 In Poland it's on and off, appearing in small quantities, it's similar in other European countries. Not sure how it is in US right now.
Your dedication to potato science & research is commendable. I definitely recommend testing the GDDR5 versions to educate the viewers on the importance of memory bandwidth.
Thanks for this video, fun showdown. I've never had one of the 10s. I do have a 730, which is not a fast card, but given the minimal power draw it's worked great for its purpose.
Back in the day i could not afford a gamer PC, so i had the gt 610 paired with an i3 2130 and 4 gb of Ram, sure it was a pretty low end system but allowed me to play csgo and left 4 dead with my friends. Even on Windows 8 with an slow HDD lol, those were the days
They are obviously good for a cheap(ish) hdmi display option, but also for retro games. The one thing I like about the 710 is that it seems to be the only gpu I have had or even found that has a pciex1 style connector that is of a modern sorta generation.
Igpu does all that though x10s are e-waste
@@whitekong316 Doesn't help you if you do not have an iGPU or one with the connectors you need.
@@resneptacle true
@@whitekong316 My dad's old Core 2 Duo got a pretty big boost from a GT 710. The on board was so bad that it struggled with 480p TH-cam.
Whilst it doesn't solve how slow it is, or what games he can play(the last game he played was the original Worms for Amiga in 1995), it does let him watch TH-cam and Netflix at 1080p.
Is also worth noting that the 710 has hardware compressed video encoding/decoding. This will give much smoother playback for internet videos and such, especially if there's any kind of overlay such as subtitles.
It's will also speed up video encoding if you still like to burn DVDs, or indeed, if you have a DVD collection you'd like to rip to your hard disk into a format using more economic compression.
You probably won't see a big difference in internet videos because the browser consumes too much CPU regardless. But the GPUs can play 2 high bitrate movies with CABAC simultaneously in Media Player Classic Homecinema. It works on a Pentium 4 in WinXP with overlay mixer. The quality of NVENC is terrible for ripping at typical bitrates.
@@j7ndominica051 I've used this method for my dad's old Core 2 Duo, it works perfectly fine.
He watches web video on multiple sites at 1080p which get gratuitous screen tearing without it. It also helps smooth out playback for .mkv files that contain software subs massively.
Would be interesting to see the 710 GDDR5 as proposed! And it would be a nice addition if you could crank up resolution and details for each card in order to just hit playable framerates (probably possible for the 710s only...).
If you have a Windows XP compatible system (I think Sandy Bridge and older) I’d love to see you do some Windows XP benchmarks with these cards. I’ve seen a lot of folks in the retro community who like the 710 in particular for XP builds, if they’re not trying to use period correct hardware.
Although these are terrible GPUs but i remember back in 2014 when life was great, come home from Uni, fire up Battlefield 3/4 and game on till AM, and when i upgraded to i5 4460 i was king of the world, simpler times
Also i don't think you get much credit, you and this channel are hidden gems, the way you review stuff is calming in these noisy times...thank you
Back in 2014, i was very desesperate to play the newly released GTA V. I actually finished the game with my GT610... I remember playing at 800x600, lowest settings possible, no res scaling (i think we didn't have that option yet back then). Around 15 to 20fps. But somehow I managed to get through the entire story mode.. lol! Today, with my Ryzen 7/3060ti setup, even with every AAA game available today, i feel like i have "nothing to play".. then I look back at those days when i had my old gt610, that i bought with every penny i had at that moment, and played so many games with it... those were the days!
sounds like a rich person with a walk-in closet bigger than most peoples' whole bedrooms saying "I have nothing to wear!"
GTA v didn’t come out on pc til 2015
finally 😭😭😭😭🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 someone like you only who can do this comparo.. luv u bro
Oh man, I have been waiting for you to make a video like this! Another awesome low end card video!
I liked seeing these look back in time cards. It always interests me to see how things have evolved by a trip back in time. I would very much like to see the 2 GB variants of these compared as well.
Love your vids! :)
Heck yeah! Do another roundup for the '20s and then the '30s, and finally the '40s, ending the GT set of cards. This was such a fun video actually.
FX5200 will beat them all 😎 (okay maybe just at Windows 98 Support)
Thare is a fx5200 ultra model. Not a lot of people know it .
I had a GT710 that was put into a dell office pc for such a long time. When I finally upgraded to an Ryzen iGPU, I was blown away by having a solid 30+fps at normal settings in GTAV.
Great video! I need to pull out my old 210 Plus and see if it will overclock.
One who's looking to play light games with these cards must note that there are Fermi and Kepler variants in the 6 and 700 series which give a huge performance difference
A bit of nostalgia for me on hearing GT610. In 2015 my parents finally agreed to give me a personal PC and they asked a private system integrator (local shop kinda) to make a PC under budget and i received an i3 4150 and GT610 with 4 gigs of RAM and man i played the hell out of it. Watch Dogs, Crysis 3 and GTA5 all at an average of 15-22FPS and i was able to complete them lol. Nostalgia
GT 710 is a great way to take an ivy bridge or older system to at least a modern level of web browsing performance. My Dell Optiplex 7010 sff has one, and I have an i7-3770, 16gb of ram, 128gb ssd, 1.5tb hdd. Runs a plex server too. Dual screens. Windows 11 22h2 runs great too using Microsoft's approved registry key.
Just a few years back, in 2020, ASUS released a passive cooling- fanless 710 with GDDR5 and 4 HDMI video outputs. I have one. The thing is great for an older computer (mine is 4770s) connected to multiple monitors. Power draw is ridiculously low and it's completely quiet. Absolutely not for gaming but for productivity it is a fantastic tool. I have three monitors and a projector attached. It was very inexpensive- 80 USD if I recall brand new. I hope in the future it runs well with Windows 11.
how did you manage to get Windows 11 installed on a 3rd gen i7 whe it requires 8th gen at the minimum
Because of these kind of tests I subscribed to your channel. Its great to see that someone do it. 🙂
I.e. this test, I miss this from some of the big channels, they are almost never testing old cards or low end products. Or try to game on low settings. Because of you I realised with how low settings and cheap/old parts you can do gaming today.
I am really happy with this development of the hardware market. In the past you could throw away your hardware after 1-3 years, because the performance increase was so high.
So many people can have fun in games with their low end (by todays standards)/office/multimedia PCs. 🙂
Big Channels ar3e garbage imo . I prefer to see how the real world reacts/acts with gear . As a tech i find it more interesting and knowledgeable to see how the Plebs work if you will . Better to know thy enemy then be ignorant of . Ive been a tech since the late 80s and its rare for me to come across an actual High End system .. Those who have such things Fix it themselves . In all my years ive had 2-3 high end system come on fore work ... its always Junk if you will and those who own it require Low End bang for the buck . So knowing whats available, the specs and results is Really helpful .. Ive only got So much gear to test so others doing it greatly increases my ability to Help . Cheers .
@@fetus2280 This was/is also my experience. I fixed more low end/AiO/desktop PCs and laptops than everything else.
One of my best experiences was with a netbook, it was the easiest full disassembly in my life back then. 😅
Sadly I had scraped a lot of PC parts, but I kept my first mainboard/CPU. (AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800 (AM2) & MSI K9NU) I cant throw them away.
@@SmokeMastaP Nice .. all i have left from my first real pc is the CPU . AMD K6-2 . Ive got a stack of my old laptops waiting for some loving and put back to work . I collect old system and have for a few years, those old AMDs are what im looking for now , Lucky mate, thats on my list :) Im going for the whole range/progression in the pc space and have a system from all eras, getting there slowly .Cheers.
@@fetus2280 The idea of rebuilding my old system comes from time to time in my head. Maybe then I could play retro games like Project IGI (1 & 2) or Command Aces of the Deep again. (where is the next Silent Hunter?? 😕)
@@SmokeMastaP Hell ya .. for me its Diablo 1 and Hellfire Multiplayer Mod and some P.O.E mods for Battlefield . I still recall those days when i was Begging for more Ram to get me up to 16mb of memory. How times have changed eh lol
The holy trinity
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More like the cursed trinity
More like the unholy trinity.
@@damaschinmarian9351 i guess but at the same time na thay are royal
The holy crappyty
I have a GT 730, the DDR3 version, and the poor GPU is suffering a lot from the lack of bandwitdh, even after pushing memory clocks as hard as i could. Comparing the DDR3 vs GDDR3-5 would be cool considering that
I'm curious as well, the difference between DDR4 version of the GT1030 and the DDR5 version is staggering.
you miss only the GT520 (it's rebranded to GT610 as far I know) to add to your collection :) Now you need to compare GTx10 series vs GT1010
I have a 210. I just use it for troubleshooting pretty much. The only thing they are good at, since they don't need external power.
Yeah pretty good reason to keep one around
Troubleshooting?
Mainly because you would have trouble shooting anything in most FPS games with the 210 and 610😄
@@joelcarson4602 You can shoot, but that doesn't mean that it lands in the right place ;)
Please do a comparison video of a gt 710 ddr3 variant vs it's ddr5 variant in the future if possible. Would love to see the performance difference!
Definitely like to see the difference between DDR3 and DDR5 models. A lot of decent/old low-end cards were forgot simply because people didn't know there was a DDR5 model.
It is always a like from me for your simple, honest video's.
Now you should try the gt 210 in sli, or even triple or quad sli lol
I’ve sli’d it before and it was just as awful as you can imagine haha
What CPU did you use in these tests? Great video!
Any decent CPU would result in the graphics cards being the limiting factor. It's only if you have a really bad processor - like worse than a Core 2 Quad/high end Core 2 Duo that you'll see these GPUs outperforming the respective CPUs.
@@TheSpotify95 Good point.
At the height of the crypto boom, these awesome cards would have been worth their weight in gold!
The 710 was going for over 600 quid on Amazon then lol
@@frankfortfcgoc that's mental lol
@@AnabolicSaagAloo doesn't mean it was selling for that price though
Perhaps even literally 😂
You should do a 630/ 730/1030/1630 round up including with both the gddr5/ddr3/ddr4 models
Well we know that the 1630 is (a) worse than a 1050Ti and (b) needs a 6 pin power connector...
@@TheSpotify95 1630 was overhyped e-waste-at-launch. And no, there wasn't that much fanfare but it didn't even deserve what anticipation it got. The fact that it is a full size card 2 slots thick is simply insulting to SFF users and anyone who cares about efficiency, as its performance per watt (and per dollar) is atrocious by today's standards.
The weird part is that nVidia actually had better, smaller, more efficient cards out already. The T600 and T1000 are leaps and bounds ahead of the 1630. Hell, the T400 might even beat it. GTX 1630 is bullshit, which seems to be what nVidia has pivoted towards selling (DLSS 3).
2:18 I thought so as well at first, but when you calculate the percentage gain the GT 610 is ~59% faster than the -GT- GeForce 210 and the GT 710 is ~47% faster than the former - just doesn't look as impressive, as both are low. But then again the -GT- GeForce 210 and GT 610 are 3 generations and 2 (? Fermi, Kepler) micro-architectures apart, so one would normally expect a bigger gap.
I remember the GeForce 210, my first graphics card, I was using it with a core 2 duo, I was amazed by the performance since I was coming from a integrated gpu.. now i have a decent rig, but the g210 still hold a special place.
@Extracted Samples ?
There is a GT 1010 and it is also a potato, but it supports DX 12. It seems to never be on sale anywhere though.
I agree.
Last year I got a true bargain with 710 2gb DDR5. Previously to install it in my HTPC, I did some benchmarks with my GT 710 DDR5 and I was nicely surprised by its results.
Great review, Please test 710 gddr5 vs gddr3.
As an average pc user I didn’t know there were *10 version of gpu. Fun video, every other channel goes for the high end expensive gpus!
Battle of the 710's sounds interesting. I think I've said it before on this channel but the GT 710 is a great card for extending the life of older core 2 duo/quad systems
the best way to extend them is getting a new system, such tech was passable time ago, nowdays its too old, yea sure a q6600 with a gtx 550 ti can do... some things, but thats about it.. and its time to let it go
8:09 YES!!!!!! I'd also like to see a video pairing a really cheap card with something like a raspberry pi400 or other SBC to match the most ideal low power, cheap card with the SBC.
YES!! Plz do!!! test the GT 710 cards (ddr3 vs gddr5)
G'day Random Steve,
Love these Random GPUs forgotten by most channels videos
🤔From memory you got a HD5450, so how about that vs the GT710 DDR5 & another ATi/AMD one from the box with a round up for both videos at the end?
Luv ur content dude
Yes. Compare them please. Thanks from the U.S., Buddy!
Still have the GT 610 ZOTAC Synergy Edition with 2gb DDR3 64b. For retro gaming good and enough.
I have a GT 610 we used in a mini-ITX HTPC about a decade ago, decent card for bluray playback.... compared to the sandy bridge iGPU. I keep it around as a troubleshooting tool in case I find a PC that won't output video.
Good video. Please include Half Life 2 when comparing old computer hardware.
The real comparison my broke ass has been waiting for
Best video on the channel so far
why is there no closed captions
I got a GT 210 but its in my dad's pc. He wont upgrade from it but gets excited when it came to buying and building my own pc.
nice video,...back when gtx10 series released i was eager to find how gt1010 could do ...
guess we'LL not find out lol
1010 was only recently released, in both GDDR5 and GDDR4 variants
@@martinus_mars whaaaat ¿ 😂
How could you leave out the poor HD 5450?
and Intel uhd 620 ?
Try testing 'Inside' on these cards!
Tech YES City did a brief review of an Asian market GPU. The AMD RX 6600M card, which has a laptop GPU for it's core. Have you thought about giving one of them a go? I know you've tested AFox cards recently. And, like me, you seem to enjoy testing some of the more obscure hardware. As always, cheers and best wishes from Alaska.
Thanks for these tests. I recently browsed for low-profile cards for my mom's PC. I guess it will be good for watching videos and basic office tasks. Her PC has a nice i5 CPU, so the performance will be better? Sadly here even the GT730 is 85 EUR, so I hope video card prices will go down. :/
Funny to see a GT710 looking like the best card in a comparison. I have a 2gb DDR3 GT710 myself, and I should have gotten the 1gb DDR3 GT730 when I got the 710.
Would be fun to see more lower end GPUs compared again on a future video. Maybe GT x30 card next time? Like the GT430, GT630, GT730, GT1030.
I can't wait for the RTX 4080 512mb to carry on this tradition for $500!
I have a system at my parent's home with a dual core Intel e8400 and a glorious gt710 1gb gddr5
I only tested it with the original 2011 Skyrim and... it works, which I suppose is more than enough a compliment for that card (in reality it sits unused for months and months... What a leisurely life )
can't wait for the 4010
only 250 W power draw
@@DARTHORK1988 at this point pc will draw more powers then 3 air conditioners
Lol I wish Nvidia still made very low-end cards, would be interesting to compare all generations.
@@RockyRacoon5 yeah I love non fan low profile card
Could be worth an overclock?
Dude, I love your channel, helped me with choosing a gpu better than the 1650 G6, ended up with an MSI Aero GTX 1060 6GB with Factory OC
He is a very brave man, some would die from internal bleeding from such fps results at 720p!!
Yes,both ram versions of 710 in 2022 would be great to see in a comparison.thanks
Could you add tf2 to benchmarks for October potentially as many people would probably like to know as the player count tends to skyrocket for the annual scream fortress event
Was waiting for this one.
I wonder what happened to the GT 1010, i never saw one on sale :D
I'm actually considering the 210 only as an occasional display output for Linux terminal. Power usage would be cool for this comparison.
You should do a tournament..... like the channel Project Farm's Synthetic Oil tournament, but with low end cards. Excluding the GT 1030 GDDR5 model.
You could also compare the iGPU in the 5700g to the GTX 560ti
it's funny. these are my go to cards for office workers needing multiple monitors.
Any chance to resurrect your RYGR series, may I ask? I've always enjoyed those videos.
Great Video adapters for older computers.
Definitely
@@RandomGaminginHD Been building some Core2Quad home PC's with any card with HDMI on it. Mostly old AMD ones. Intel drivers are enough for their purpose. All play Valorant though, ha ha. Maybe alsoo Rollblox.
@@corneliusantonius3108 I have at home even Fujitsu GeForce 605 (OEM card, so on GF119 Fermi 610 GT series) with Display Port output. It is well made, it has many sensors, thick PCB. One of the best made that I ever saw. And that card cost me about 20 Euros. :)) Of course usage it it pretty different that modern gaming. Some cards have Firmware suited for DOS usage (interpolation and so on...). ;)
@@Bubak777 A rare card. A novelty. I had never heared of that card.
Speaking of older games: Geforce 210 and 710 both also work with Diablo III, but do not try to go with 1080P. At least the 710 will have some stutters, which make the game more or less unplayable in 1080P.
It worked quite well with 1366x768 though ;)
Forget gaming, the GT 710 is quite good at NVENC h264 video encoding using ffmpeg. The GT 710 is handy at hardware h264 encoding and if you have an older CPU it will beat x264 encoding.
I guess the one I happen to have isn’t so useless after all lol.
0:01 Still waiting for the 600$ RTX 4010........ 🤣
You could test Mount & Blade: Warband for your older test, it's a very popular game that people with more dated hardware could enjoy.
I had to put a 710 in my parents' computer and I was actually surprised how good it is.
I still have a GT710 with 2Gb of GDDR5 in my old Core 2 Duo system, and I remember playing the original Bioshock game on it. It ran quite well.
I don't remember the settings - probably 720p - and I did not test the frame rate, but I enjoyed playing that game on that PC. So it ran smoothly.
JK, my eyes hurt after that glorious display of GTA in 360p
You should do a vid on the 30s next :)
There were a few GT 610 cards with 2 gigs of VRAM-I remember I had a Galax branded one with 2 gigs and a fan that only turned one speed back in the day. I wonder if it was any faster, but I know it was probably the same.
Looks at GT 610*
GT looks back at me: I raised that boy!
Me: You are Goddamn right!
(Using a rx 6600 now, but gt 610 never forgetti O7)
One thing that i'm interested in is how capable these card is to run 2d indie games and emulators...
The 210 can't even play hollow knight I tried
@@mathdev hollow knight is pretty heavy. I hear that card even makes Stardew Valley force close at launch, a 2D game.
Some months ago I found a pc on street , I cleaned and upgraded with a gt 730 , it's amazing, phenom x4 945 with this card runs very well
Thing is, under the same 'GT 710' sticker, one may find either a Kepler GPU (the better option) or an older Fermi GPU (the unspeakable horrible option).
These kind of cards are good enough though for a video display adapter/video decoding for PCs running on older platforms.
You should compare a ddr3 to a ddr5 version of the same card to see what difference it makes, would be interesting to see
iirc in the case of a GT 1030 DDR4 vs GDDR5 it was basically 2x so I imagine that it might be even more dramatic.
@@SeeJayPlayGamesthe 710 is so cut down that its not as big of a gap as the 1030
My ex uses a 710. I was going to give her my RX 570 now that I bought a 2060. But she broke up with me, seems like her problem.
@randomgaminginhd. What vacuüm blower were you using again? I'm looking to buy a portable one
I'm impressed that the GeForce 210 can even render games at frames per second. The windows UI lags with that graphics card...
With their powers combined... I am Captain Potato! Not a hero, going to take frames per second down to zero.
Yes please compare the DDR3 and GDDR5 versions of the 710
Please do a whole round up of low end cards (GT) 10s, 20s, 30s and 50s in every memory version from Nvidia and the same from AMD. (RX550, R3, 5450...)
Be interesting to see the 710 v Athlon apu or intel xe graphics
will you look at oldest gpu you can get at available time ?
how do these compare with various generations of integrated graphics? better to have the card or remove it?
I work in a school where I have purchased all of these cards over the years. They are more definitely not gaming cards for sure, but in 2022 you should under no circumstances be buying a 210 - not only is it seriously old, it doesn't support UEFI boot. Some 610 cards had a revision 2 just in time for Windows 8 and so could support UEFI and Secure Boot. The 710 natively supports UEFI boot. It also has a slightly better video decode engine, so makes for a useful display adapter for extra monitors, though you will be limited to using 2 out of the 3 connectors available as it only supports 2 displays at once. Realistically if you are diving to the bottom of the barrel, a GT1030 makes more sense in 2022. It supports H.265 decode and way more modern DirectX version, even if you only make use of it as a display adapter.
The GT 1030 is also the cheapest way to get 4k 60Hz for desktop and media use (and it does hardware acceleration).