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- One thing I neglected to mention, there's an action in this game that it never tells you about that you only need in some missions. While doing Soul Surge, you can shake the nunchuck and kick objects to launch them. Just another thing that was implemented into the game only to be barely used. So strange.
Once again I played this on Dolphin with a standard controller. The way the game detects waggle is incredibly finnicky and it took me a while to get it to work without issue. But I did get it to control pretty much perfectly after some fine-tuning. There was really no reason for this to be a motion control game. Though, that's the case for most motion control games.
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I love how you called them fairies this time, and you're not even wrong
I'm Welsh, and it was crazy cool for me as a kid for this Japanese videogame aimed at Americans to include a familiar folk tune in the menus so much. Surreal really.
Uh just curious which welsh folk song is the main theme based on?
@@frickerrific2813 the Ash Grove
@@Scroteydada what part specifically I’m not hearing it
I really love how they made traditional Sonic gimmicks look appropriate for the setting. The springs being the big mushrooms in the crystal caves, the fairies replacing speed boosters, even the rails usually being pretty natural-looking vines, ropes, minecart rails. Its a detail I never see mentioned and I wish they’d kept this concept in mind going forward.
In Frontiers, seeing super realistic fields and giant red springs in the middle of nowhere, it really does look like someone just imported Sonic Generations assets into a UE5 tech demo. This game has my favourite “realistic environments” direction of any Sonic game tbh
Also I love the slide-stop-dash Sonic does when he turns 90 degrees left or right down a new path, would love to see it return!
That's always been a problem with Sonic levels, they all have the same elements in each game even when it doesn't really make much sense like there being loops and rings everywhere in Unleashed and SA2 despite being based in real locations.
@@spritvio639 Its a fantasty/sci-fi series dude. Not everything is going to make sense.
@@seematahir5970 you could put Mario in a realistic ray-traced abandoned 1910s asylum and put floating blocks everywhere and justify it with “its a kids game”, doesn’t make it a cohesive art direction
@@meleeludens But realism and cohesive art direction aren't remotely the same thing. Ever since the Genesis days Sonic has been about combining real world landscapes with more surreal imagery and elements. Yeah it's not always entirely believable but that's the appeal of a fantasy series. What the fuck would be the point if it looked exactly like the real world? The cohesive tissue IS the elements like rings and loops that are blended naturally into environments, which is why even games that go for a different look like 06 still feel "Sonic". Frontiers feels so alien because it is straight up a change in art direction.
I think what's worse about the other characters is that they are locked off to only be playable in certain stages. You can't go to like Misty Lake and be Shadow or Faraway Avalon to be Knuckles, only in specific places.
That's disappointing cause I didn't realize that in playing. I did some of the eligible stages with the unlocks but didn't think to take them back to replay old levels for loot. Should've just been permanent joins.
yeah that was a big shame
I guess they did that because each character has a specific dialogue per level, so putting them in other levels would have needed more recording done for each main level which they may not have had time for. Though I would have been OK with them being silent if it meant more levels to play them in.
One detail I appreciated about this game was how some of the dash pads and ramps blend better with the environments. They're not all the standard cartoony looking dash pads and ramps you see in most Sonic games.
Officially reached my favorite Sonic game. Can't wait for the story video as well.
Would you mind elaborating on why it's your favorite? I'd love to hear, as a fellow Black Knight enjoyer.
@@megamillion5852 While it obviously has flawed gameplay, you could get me to talk about the story for and themes for ages in this game. I'm a fan of medieval and fantasy, and Sonic with a sword is straight up cool.
Sonic and Caloburn is the sidekick formula perfected, their dynamic is very satisfying. Merlina is an amazing villain, and in my opinion the best antithesis and foil to Sonic. Yes, better than Shadow and Metal Sonic on that department. Metal challenges Sonic's nature, and Shadow challenges Sonic's morality, but Merlina challenges Sonic's ideals. They both are working for a single goal, and don't care what the world thinks of them if they can achieve it.
Black Knight has the best characterization of Sonic we've gotten, with him willing be the bad guy and let the world be destroyed, because he believes it's the right thing to do. It cemented to me that Sonic is more of an anti hero than Shadow ever was. Even Knight of the Wind has an ominous tone, and With Me is perfect because it can fit both Merlina and Sonic, something we hadn't seen since What I'm Made Of, and still haven't gotten since.
Even small details, like how the knights of the round are specifically characters who in Sonic's world were devoted to a cause (Shadow for Maria, Knuckles for the master emerald, Blaze for her kingdom). And hell, for as much shit as the gameplay gets, I'd say it's definitely fun like Pariah said here. It had its moments, but it never hindered my enjoyment of the game.
@@afanisthedolphinI'm sorry, but you just talked about the game's story and the songs, not the actual gameplay.
@@Kelps.mp4 Yup
This is the best sonic game in my opinion and I plan on making a spiritual successor one day in the future.
I’m still waiting for the sequel, “Sonic and the Little Mermaid”
I’m interested
@@mitch_universe4058 Heard people once asking for Sonic and Sherlock Holmes, or Sonic in feudal Japan, or Sonic in science fiction to carry on the storybook series. Taking him underwater primarily sounds cruel. Merman Sonic would be a Sonic like none other!
Meh. Not even top 5. I'd slot it under Colors on my tier list.
@@CassiusStelar to each their own
I had a feeling you were gonna tackle Black Knight next. It definitely belongs more to that pre-Unleashed era of Sonic even though it came out after.
In a way, maybe, but it's also a very appropriate goodbye to the dark age and what it offered. It perfected the sidekick thing, it had a story all about moving on and how things don't last forever, and it gave us Jason's best performance as Sonic.
By chance, it was also the last 3D game (not counting Team Sonic Racing) to have Crush 40 front and centre. From the character line up to the voices to the music to the writing, it feels distinctly separate from Colours and forward though it could easily be more blurry with just a few directional differences.
It is also funny to see some people call the era after Black Knight, the dark age (not just meta era) when I've grown up with many saying that about Heroes to 06 or even Adventure 1 to Black Knight.
Different strokes, different folks.
@@afanisthedolphin I agree. It's just that Unleashed feels like it's already starting to transition into the meta era, while Black Knight is 100% a last hurrah to the Adventure era.
@@MasterDisaster64 Unleashed was the planting of the seeds for something new before we wrapped up the old.
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Minor correction, but the back flip is in Secret Rings.
It’s just worst as you don’t go that far, and you can’t spam it as well cause Sonic would automatically recognize a jump input first, before a walk backwards input.
So he’ll jump forward cause he wouldn’t immediately recognize the way your holding the Wii remote until a few seconds after doing a back flip.
bro the Unleashed video is gonna be a MOVIE i'm actually so hyped for it
Happy 15th Anniversary Sonic and the Black Knight.
One thing thing you hadn't mentioned with the soul surge, is that you can kick off enemies (with the nunchuk)as a way to disarm shields but not super useful lol
Shaking the nunchuk also allows Sonic to get into the air from the ground and vice versa. Shadow/Lancelot uses flight so he doesn't actually care if the Soul Surge target is airborne.
I remember Gawain throwing his swords as well but didn't consider them useful then so I'd probably like those less now.
I like Black Knight and had a really fun time with it as a kid. I think I got close to getting every level with 5* and unlocking all of the ID items. There's also a surprising amount of content with the game, the side missions are (generally speaking) a nice change of pace. Also I'm so excited for the story video of Black Knight you have zero idea
Time to correct a few things said in the video, mostly related to the playable characters.
One, equipment. Only Sonic and Sir Lancelot have two slots to equip items, Sir Percival and Sir Gawain have three slots and a single slot respectively. But both Sonic and Sir Lancelot are superior to both Percival and Gawain for a reason I'll explain later.
Two, playstyles. Both Sonic and Sir Lancelot share a similar moveset but Sir Gawain and Sir Percival don't. Each of the knights play nearly similar to their boss fights with some obvious differences. That's where the crafting system comes into play.
Unlike Sonic, the Knights of the roundtable don't level up with Sonic which can confuse a lot of players. Instead they "level up" with the craftable weapons and either earn or lose skills depending on the weapon. Typically the last batch of weapons that can be crafted will house a majority of their moveset while the final weapon is essentially a +1 Infinity Sword that gives them the full moveset and unlocks a powerful upgrades to their Soul Surges.
Sir Lancelot unlocks the Knight of Chaos ability and unlocks the Chaos Blast which completely *devastates* entire groups of enemies and essentially replaces Chaos Punishment as any attacks via Soul Surge will automatically unleash Chaos Blast. Sir Gawain unlockes the Knight of Stone ability and upgrades Wild/Gail Meteor to attack foes that are far away instead of up close. Sir Percival unlocks the Knight of Flame ability and gets an upgrade to Flame Purgación which becomes bigger and stronger which can attack foes much easier compared to normal.
It should also be noted that some weapons will hold a special ability that unlocks a move that was used in the boss fight such as Agility, an ability exclusive to Sir Lancelot that allows him to fire Chaos Spears with each grounded sword swing.
Now even though none of the Knights level up with Sonic, they can still level up one of his combat styles. Sir Lancelot levels up the Knight style, Sir Percival levels up the Cavalier style and Sir Gawain levels up the Paladin style which leads into.
Three, abilities. As you progress through the game you'll level up Sonic's abilities depending on the combat style you stick with. If you stick with the Knight style you eventually unlock Crest of the King which allows you to *skip* the QTE interactions with the Townsfolk, if you stay with the Cavalier style you unlock the Crest of the Wind which depletes Rings to allow you to run faster and if stay with the Paladin style you gain the ability to attack while running and without slowing down.
Each of the abilities from each style can also help break the game in some capacity. More specifically, Soul Resurrection. Exclusive to the Knight style (which includes some of the weapons Sir Lancelot can wield, not sure about the weapons the other knights can wield unfortunately) Soul Resurrection fills the Soul Gauge everytime you take damage, by equipping a Poison Ring you essentially get an infinite Soul Gauge that can be used as long as you have Rings. This allows you to cheese boss fights and still get a perfect rating of ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ if you haven't been damaged by the bosses. Also, because you're already poisoned you'll also be immune to poison based attacks and obstacles.
However! To fully upgrade all three of Sonic's combat styles you'll need to replay stages over and over and over again as some abilities won't unlock/level up until you reach a specific rank/title which will only upgrade once you get enough followers.
So while Sonic and the Black Knight does keep some of Secret Rings' bloated content, it's more streamlined and less annoying. Plus hearing Crush 40 play Seven Rings in Hand is pretty nice after obtaining the Seven World Rings from the piss easy (difficulty wise, rank wise not so much) Legacy missions. Also the legacy missions are the only way to unlock Sonic's medal which plays... What I'm Made of... It definitely fits Sonic to an extent, but I would've preferred something like It Doesn't Matter, His World or heck, even Endless Possibilities given every other character has the instrumental version of their theme (minus Sir Percival who supposedly has a remix of Vela-Nova play during her pre-boss cutscene, someone's gonna need to check the notes to confirm that) and we don't hear the instrumental of It Doesn't Matter (SA1) until the cutscene before the final boss.
I think the Medal of Sonic plays What I’m Made Of as a pun (Medal of Sonic = Metal Sonic)
@@greenD7244 While the pun does make a neat reference, it just doesn't fit Sonic himself.
I would've preferred if you had the option to change what song the Medal plays. Imagine blazing through Knight's Passage while Leaf Storm or City Escape plays, that would definitely be one way to give emotional whiplash.
Someone should definitely make a mod of that.
I love how creative Sonic Team can be. They don’t always hit their mark, but I would rather a decent creative sequel than a good game that plays it safe. By the way, this doesn’t apply to Sonic and the Black Knight besides the creativity aspect. I haven’t played black night so I wouldn’t know how good it is. Also Fight the Knight is really good.
I'd say the game is good. Probably like an 8 where Secret Rings was a 7 at most for me anyway.
@@spritvio639I think that’s the general consensus. It is pretty good and it is better than Secret Rings. It would be cool if we got another Sonic platformer spinoff like this (though it doesn’t have to be a story book game).
Sonic team in the 2000s isn't the same as it is now
@@schemar17 Oh you don’t have to tell me. I’m not a huge fan of their garbage philosophy of removing momentum from their sonic games. But I just meant like it would be cool if we got a spin-off but they probably isn’t happening. And if it does it would probably be garbage anyways.
@@penguinlord9984 yeah I blame sega we had a game like every year rather it was good, mid or trash ever since the 2010s hit the games been lacking
29:43 The way the sound effects time up with the cadence of your sentence is so perfect I refuse to believe it was not intentional.
The story video for this is gonna go so hard
this one's my favorite storywise i am very hyped
I loved Sonic and the Black Knight as a wee lad and it probably still has some of my favorite story moments in any Sonic game. As an adult, it's a bit of a tedious waggle game where the dominant strategy just destroys the game.
That said, a lot of that visceral "Oh I just mowed through 20 enemies!" feeling still has me going to stuff like the Koei Tecmo Warriors game. Which makes this game only worth a replay if you really love the idea of Sonic with a sword.
Which is why I loved it as a kid lol
This is my absolute favorite Sonic game ever. I don't know what it is, but I love this game to death. I should replay it someday.
Did you know that Big the Cat was originally a playable character in this game? And that it's story got rewritten in the middle of it's development, which is why he isn't a playable char in the final game? Just thought that was cool
Ain't no way.
This sounds like something you just made up
My source comes from an interview Tetsu Katano did for Sonic Channel, TH-cam is fussy with links nowadays but if you search up "Tetsu Katano interview" or go to his Sega Retro page you guys should be able to find it.
That’s sweet
WIll you review the weird implications with the side characters?
Lancelot and Galahad essentially left fans speculating about Shadow and Silver's relationship, to the point Iizuka had to deny them ever being related.
I guess the dev team threw him in last minute and just googled the name of another knight without doing research.
It may not apply to Shadow and Silver in the main universe, but I'm pretty sure Black Knight Lancelot and Galahad are supposed to be related like in the legend, as Galahad's description in the vault galley mentions he is "said to hold almost the same power as Lancelot." They wouldn't mention Lancelot without reason.
I agree about the jumping. Even as a kid I was like "this doesn't work nearly as well as in Spider-Man"
Things i want from a satbk remake: stomp button, homing attack stuns harder or has s, slide button to run into enemies with, more control of the sword swings so i can better attack enemies without wiping out all the citizens, and rematches with percival and gawain like we get for lancelot. ALSO just a better running animation for sonic where his quills dont spread out as he speeds up
I have played this game all the way through with the wii remote, and it's fun.
And I'm thinking about using Dolphin to play with button controls, which would be REALLY fun!
This one of my favorite Sonic games
At last we come to the swan song of Sonic the Hedgehog.
"Sonic was never good" -A Wise Man (forgot the name lol)
I’m so happy that you like BL cause I love it too, with the same/similar issues.
best way to get a good time use light speed sword attack all time and try blast through enemies
This is the last main line sonic game that you get to play as a character other then sonic until forces
Finished review.
Ah, so it was an ok time? Good to know!
Is it me or were “coins” not mentioned at all in this vid?
He's back again to just talk straight fax
Ah, Black Knight.
The fan-favorite game in the series no one likes to play, not even the fans. Folks give whole essays about how Sonic is written, but nobody really praises the gameplay.
My only experience with Black Knight was playing it on a friend's house, and not having a fun time. And because Dolphin doesn't work on my computer, I cannot play it.
Yeah you're kind of right there. Most of the time when people bring up this game they praise the story.
@@spritvio639 Don't ever expect "I'm the only one who likes Black Knight?" to become a meme any time soon, compared with Unleashed.
@@spritvio639
Cause it’s probably the best story in a Sonic game. But honestly, the gameplay is fun. I really enjoyed playing it. I give it a 7.5/10. It’s not quite an 8/10 or higher in my opinion because there are a couple flaws with the controls, but there’s plenty of moments I was really enjoying myself.
It actually kind of annoys me how most of the Sonic fandom acts like the stories are all that matter. Are these people just watching the cutscenes on TH-cam and calling it a day? Because it sure sounds like these guys haven't actually played the game.
It is strange. Sometimes it feels like we've entered an alternate bizarro world where people dislike Generations and say Black Knight is one of the best games in the series.
Pariah, if you wanna learn the fights against the other Sonic characters. You can unlock special speed run videos in the game, that way, maybe you can understand
Well I imagine all those mechanics introduced at the end of the game were for the post game and replayability. The game is really short after all, they probably wanted to give players more of a reason to keep playing
I actually loved all the extra systems they added, honestly. Extra mechanics wouldn't be extra if they were mandatory. The game was really fun for me to try to master as all the characters. And to me, each character definitely felt different enough to be solid inclusions.
Just would have been great to have them be playable on (almost) all stages officially. It was still the last 3D game till Frontiers to have a varied roster of playable friends.
Forces had a "range" but Shadow is functionally Sonic, Classic Sonic is Sonic (and not even that good a representation of 2D mechanics) and then we have the Avatar.
Have you heard of bang on balls? It's in early access but on sale right now, it's like a collectathon based on country balls, seems like your kinda thing
Also, that robot game in your Sonic style games video reminded me of exo one, which also looks like your kinda thing
Everyone has that moment with any piece of media where they're like "Ok idc, that's so fking cool"
Interesting just how many people have a particular attachment to this game - me included. I think it's partly due to how well the gameplay serves the story. It's like SA2 in that way. Telling the player why we gotta go fast goes a long way. So many Sonic games feel like they're hitting a big ol' pause button on the story when the actual gameplay starts.
So pariah, what is you favorite video game after all?
I'm waiting for your next sonic upload
Man, the hate for Sonic was way too real back then.
Mainly unwarranted too but that was mostly cause of 06. 06 caused propel to hate Sonic even after 06 even when the games were great like Unleashed.
As true as that is, I don't really think Sonic Team were helping themselves making games you need to work to make fun like Black Knight and Secret Rings. Maybe if they focused on making the game fun day 1 Sonic would have been treated better then.
@@jesuspernia8031 people hated Sonic even before 06 though.
@@markofthewolvessucks8930 Shadow the Hedgehog had mixed reception, but most of the criticism boiled down too him having a gun looking stupid
yay finally
I just realized he didn’t call Secret Rings “Secret Coins” or “Secret Apples”
To this day, I still don't know how you can get Perfect Soul strikes on the final boss. I never managed to get the timing right, so seeing you saying it's a joke make me really feel like "Rly bro?" I'd say actually King Arthur is the joke one, since you can beat it in exactly 9 seconds.
Black Knight was a decent experience when I was younger, kinda frustrating playing it through given the stuff it never teaches you about, and the fact that the attacks are tied to the animations, making them so slow you can get hit in the middle of an attack, but otherwise it was fun for what it's worth.
I was waiting for this
It's indeed a good game!
I noticed you don’t mentioned the multiplayer aspect of either of these two spinoffs. Honestly it’s not that important seeing most people don’t care for it, but I thought I ask:
You going to cover the multiplayer function of these two or any other Sonic game?
I would like to. But I'd need people to play with.
And the thing is, His friends are not very good at Sonic.
The last game before the dark times
We're not at Generations yet.
@@spritvio639 Everything with Roger in it is "dark times"
@@Milonoto respect frontiers and generations imo
@@spritvio639 Generations was the definition of mid
@@lukescrew1981 false
Kind of wish we got more Storybook games. You could do so many stories reimaginings with Sonic and Sonic characters.
Imagine a Sonic and the Journey to the West, Sonic in Greek Mythology, etc.
The backflip was there as an equip in secret rings
It was also quite bad. You didn't have it immediately and then you had to upgrade for it to have a hitbox.
In Black Knight, most enemies don't hurt you on contact so it wouldn't be so bad if you had a bad backflip but instead we have the strongest one without the need for it to attack.
@@thelastgogeta I'm not talkin bout how it feels to u I jus wanted to inform him on somethin he may have missed
@@nightlydata2181 I just wanted to add to the details on the move whether or not he gets to read this.
The detail of how enemy hitboxes work is also an objective point that he didn't explicitly mention.
Dang, no "coins" joke in this one (unless I missed it). Yeah I know the coins were replaced in the main levels but they do also have stages in this game with traditional coins and badniks and whatnot so the opportunity was there. Curious what you would have called the coins in this video lol.
They are called fairies
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Holy crap, a Sonic sequel, that improves the issues with the previous spinoff/side game people considered bad?!
It’s just weird how this is the only time this has ever happened in the series, unless I’m wrong.
Depending on who you ask they technically do keep doing that. People like SA2 more than SA1 and some people prefer Generations to Unleashed.
Yeah what the above reply said, also with Sonic 2 being an “improvement” to Sonic 1. Or even Advance 2 over Advance 1.
@@jasonnguyen1072 Most people, and I was thinking about spin-offs with the comment like Battle, R, CtDB, etc.
I don’t think the majority thinks those first games are bad anyways.
@@spritvio639 refer to another my other reply.
Hmm, I think it worked out for Sonic Racing Transformed but not the next sequel, Team Sonic Racing.
Most spinoffs don't seem to get a second chance to make improvements or are low profile enough that they are forgotten maybe?
Outside of a few who particularly liked Storybook games, the majority of the discussion for Black Knight was bound to be dominated by people who just see it and think the sword is dumb since Sonic has quills or Shadow having a gun happened before.
Yo Pariah695, will you do an analysis video on Sonic Shuffle.
Sonic: Sonic Shuffle, NO WAY!
he said no in the sonic riders video
Sonic Shuffle >>>>> Black Knight
The stuff you said about the extra characters makes sense and everything, but you can play as Blaze dude no one's gonna say no to that. I mean Percival, sorry
I mean, they won't say it but they'll sure act it. Most people aren't playing Blaze in this game.
@@spritvio639 source?
Pariah are you going to do Unleashed and Unwiished after this?
Patience Cuddlyboar, we're almost there.
@@spritvio639 🤣
@@spritvio639 Ya that’s my bad I’m sorry if I came off as impatient but I was just wondering if he was going to cover Unleashed only or both versions
LET’S FUCKING GO.
The best one ngl
Weird and random suggestion.
You should go over the Pacman World games
I listen to knight of the wind frequently, the ost slams on this one
It would be cool if you made videos about the pokémon series. I'm really into pokémon.
You do know he(s) NOT an RPG guy, and in the decription of his riders story video he Said that he was not very into/familar with Pokémon, So These videos by Pariah Can only be in your dreams
@@themissingbits6375 oh okay, thanks anyways!
Inputs for black knight
I wonder if you will cover the Mobile games as well in this series (Unleashed Mobile, Dash, Runners, etc). Maybe you could do them all in one video since there isn't much to talk about.
You keep saying this game has a bad reputation, yet it seems you've kind of been out of the loop about it for the past couple years. Though I suppose it mainly has to do with the story of the game. Regardless, it's not exactly that uncommon to hear people talking praise of it nowadays, just like with Unleashed. I suppose these 2 games are the biggest examples of Vindicated by History in the series, outside of maybe 06. How funny though that all but 1 (06) are games I always loved.
Look outside the Sonic fandom. This game is still a joke to the wider gaming world.
I mean the game for the most part has had a bad reputation, all the praise it's getting now is recent and only in the Fandom because we can put up with the flaws more than most people.
@@spritvio639 To be fair, that's the story of most Sonic games AND outsiders tend to look at jank/clips/Metacritic plus move on.
The only people who will ever give games with mixed or poor receptions the time of day beyond the review embargo deadline are us weirdos. For most, Black Knight was written off as 54/100 and as fodder for "worst Sonic game" lists.
The only way for it to be truly vindicated is if people disagreed strongly with journos at the time in large numbers like with God Hand vs IGN which even led to staff at IGN defending the game over a decade later. The fandom needs to Unite Up which isn't likely for the sequel of a spinoff which is locked to the Wii.
Maybe for a game on many modern platforms like DmC.
i kind of jokingly in my mind thought that black knight was a good game but wow i didn't expect it to actually pretty much be
now please, don't do my baby unleashed dirty. it is mostly nostalgia with unleashed for me though in all honsety, but i like a lot of aspects of the game, i just firmly dislike the medal stuff and the daytime stages they get really difficult.
but i oughta check black knight out, i played it like one time ever a really really long time ago and don't remember a thing about it
Would it be right for me to say that it is _generally_ fairly enjoyable but also not that good but _generally_ an engaging enough game
This game has always looked interesting to me, but I'm still not sure if I actually want to play it, idk I really don't like this on-rails style.
This game would've been better if it has GameCube controller support for the game and also for Secret of the Rings in the main game. Honestly every single Wii game should've been better if it works with GameCube controllers.
I think that a lot of this game's largely-negative reception, at least from gamers, is simply that Sonic was equipped with a sword. The series was notorious for its odd gimmicks and giving Sonic a sword after previously giving Shadow a gun was destined to go down horribly. I think the game was pretty forgettable when I played it and it still was tedious, but it wasn't frustrating at all to me. I never did end up finishing it because I was fatigued by the time I got to the final stretch of the game and I simply had better things to do with my time.
I think this how to pull off that “on rails” gameplay style correctly. They improved upon how the Secret Rings gameplay was. I think this game is a 7.5/10. Just a couple things holding it back from being a great game.
You meaning to tell me I'm not the only one who thought this game was fun?!
Whenever you finish this SWAG series, do you plan on like making a tier list for every sonic game you covered?
Oh god, if this game came out within the past 5 years, annoying people would call it Soulsborne Sonic
A game that starts fantastic and then takes a sharp dive into "this sucks" once you hit Molten Mine. The waggle QTEs for the clash sequences- when you and the enemy knight hit at the same time during the rival battles or during the two Arthur encounters, are straight up broken, because as I learned emulating this game with a real button mapped to the waggle, there's a TON of input lag between when you waggle, and when the game senses it, and since the QTEs are so tight, it's no goddamn wonder I got stuck at the second Arthur fight on Avalon for literally years as a kid, despite trying at least a few times a month before getting frustrated thinking *I* sucked. It's so close to being awesome but the bullshit stage design of some later stages, and the control lag for the sword, absolutely ruin it for me.
I do wonder if the sword waggle stuff would have been any better if nintendo hadn't been so tight-lipped about the Wii Motion Plus, I remember SonicTeam said they were pissed in an interview after they had developed like 90% of Black Knight and nintendo was like "yo check out this rad new Zelda and Wii Sports we got GYRO now!!". Then again, even nintendo couldn't keep Skyward Sword's controls from sucking, so maybe Black Knight would have been WORSE since sega likes to give Sonic games *JUST ENOUGH* time and budget to not be a complete garbage fire, because they know as long as it's even slightly better than 06, Chronicles, or Sonic Genesis, it'll still sell.
If I had to guess, maybe all the playable characters, the like gear and stance stuff that isnt a big deal til near post game, and all the other stuff it introduces near the end are there to act almost like a post game. Secret Rings was heavily criticized for its padding so to me it comes off like they made that "padding" much more optional and more something you'd interact with after your beat the short story of the game for the most part. All these things give the game more replay value if I had to guess but unlike secret rings they arent put into the game to lengthen it intrusively. Thats just my guess anyways.
This game I would still say is drastically underrated by general Sonic followers and every bit as good as Sonic and the Black Knight fans say it is. The on-rails feels so much better here than in Secret Rings, and the theme and mystical world are gorgeous. The first portion up to the titular Black Knight battle is over fast, this game doing similar to Kid Icarus Uprising where the scenario shifts. Hope people pressed on cause lategame stages with the Knights are so cool.
Secret Rings was borderline unplayable... Black Knight is SO much better.
Hot take: Sonic and the black knight is my fav sonic game
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Heheh, Sonic rolls up to alleviate his problems.
We are the same 🤓
Man I love the story book games when Kishimoto was messing around with Sonic speedy reaction gameplay while jamming in some combat. Until Colors came in and ditch the whole idea till Frontiers brought it back, sort of.
Hope the story of this game is just as good as the game as a whole
As you've said.
You have plenty of opportunities for the crafting system and extra swords in post game with the huge amount of extra missions
Even then, you're completely unable to use the other characters in all of the "blue stages" on the map even after you unlock them, they're only usable in half of the game.
Black Knight is only good as long as you emulate it and fiddle with the control settings to play it like an actual video game.
Have you seen the new IGN video that's called "Sonic was always good"? The irony of your series of Sonic videos and that video is so funny to me
I think the ultimate problem with the storybook games, is that the first playthrough. When you first play these games they're so dull. Sonic is slow, the controls are a mess, the games can be jank at times and other things like the mission structure of Secret Rings. These are games you have to put in work to make fun, a lot of work which is a turn off to even a good chunk of Sonic fans. Had Sega polished up the first playthrough more maybe these games would have been a success. As they are niw, I see why everyone was put off by them at the time.
24:33 Blaze has homing attack but it comes after double jump much like how you described jump cancel occurs. Although I've only seen it in legacy missions, never seen her lock on to the enemy. What I'm truly certain of is that Shadow *can* in fact do light speed attack.
I strongly disagree about weapons. They make side characters much more satisfying to use and they make blaze actually playable. Speaking of weapons once again it sort of baffled me how you actually mentioned how many missions this game has and yet you say weapons are superflous
I liked Black Knight's gameplay, its not the most depth full game but still enjoyable.
And it's literally one of the best implementations of other playable characters.
Ans the customization feel less...annoying than in Secret Rings.
Think it gets overlooked because Colors came out literally a year and a half later and it took its thunder sorta.
For me, I liked its implementation of additional characters in comparison to other 3D Sonic games. Everyone is functionally close to Sonic and can be played across the whole level.
It still left something to be desired as the 2D games are miles ahead with almost every level being playable by as many as 5 characters (Sonic Advance series, Sonic Mania).
The game basically has the DMC/Bayonetta problem where it is nice to have the characters but the game wastes their potential by not making the selectable almost everywhere.
This is a game I wish I liked more. It's better than Secret Rings in basically every way, the visuals are great, Sonic's character is top-notch, and Knight of the Wind is just one of the best vocal tracks in the series.
But the game's really boring to me. Still, I can appreciate a lot about this game. Anyway, great video.
One thing I want to add, all the extra characters in story mode have an "ultimate" weapon that you have to go out of your way to get the materials to craft (kind of like final fantasy, some of them have a low drop chance or specific spots where you can get them) and these weapons MASSIVELY buff your characters stats to the equilivant of Max Level Sonic's and give your character further reach or in the case of Shadow/Lancelot, extra attacks.
Gawain gets longer reach and a bigger block.
Percieval gets a bigger fire tornado, some extra attacks that I have no idea how to consistently activate, more soul gauge, and longer airtime.
Shadow gets his chaos blast from his boss fight when he does a perfect soul surge in an aoe, and "sword beam" chaos spears every time he swings his sword. It's actually really cool, and makes those characters a lot more fun to play.
The style system, followers, crafting system are all tied into the ranking system, it's designed to be extremely difficult to get all the stars on a mission unless you have your style leveled up, certain items equipped or the best weapons, these systems were designed for you 100%ing the game. It's interesting, because there's at least 2-5 more hours of "game" there for you to play after you finish the story and all the levels and missions, you just aren't forced to interact with it.
After this story of sonic and black knight story video after it we go with unleashed and then it's story
Black knight is the only sonic game i feel would fit perfectly with the Open zone concept
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This "bro this is just cool" mindset is what they were trying to cater to with frontiers i guess but so much of it makes me think like "but this could be deeper though, it's set up for it they just didn't do it"
the Black Jnight was received badly for one reason only:
"What? Sonic with a sword? sega is stupid, he no longer understands the character and mocks the fans in the face! Sonic doesn't need a sword, he already has his spikes to attack !!!"
It's like what's been happening recently with his characterization, everyone is so worried about trying to get him to do nothing that Sonic wouldn't do that, in the end, Sonic doesn't do anything.
Is no one really going to talk about how ridiculously funny A.I. of rivals? Lirally, you stand still and they won't attack until you move. Lol.
Haven't played it in a while but it sounds like some wacky fighting game AI.
Never played this one myself, but just from looking at the footage, it doesn't seem very enjoyable. The enemies seem like annoying traffic cones that just slow you down and break your flow constantly.
no plot?(
Pariah Will talk about the story in “The story of Sonic & the Black knight”
Super disappointing you didn't talk about the story of the game. Black Knight imo has the best story in the series along with the best written Sonic
Too bad Amy was horribly written in this game lol.
I honestly think secret rings is better
At Least secret rings has a better ending and Sonic can actually defeat enemies using a homing attack.
Secret Rings, still the better game.
Secret Rings master race.
Learn to get good.
Plus Amy isn't terribly written in that game. And Sonic could *ACTUALLY* defeat enemies with a homing attack.