Regardless of all the comments here, some negative,some positive, I do think this was a pretty quick response, by all the engines. Water on within a minute of arriving, FFs inside using the dry riser and within the flat quickly too. A big well done I’d say.
Absolutely amazing at the rapid response from time of arrival to getting water on .Not like American firefighters who run around in a disorganized fashion like headless chickens !
@@EyeWatchThemAll That is because of the architecture of our buildings. Every apartment is a concrete box, with a minimum of one hour fire separation, so the only fire load was the furnishings. Just bounce the water off the ceiling, job done. To avoid getting smoke into the stairwell, they would not have opened the door to the apartment until most of the smoke had vented out through the windows. This method would certainly not have worked in the US or Canada. Even if within the apartment they had hollow walls, they end at the ceiling and do not run through. The walls are gypsum which is non combustible and the studding is light weight steel box sections, so there's nothing to burn. Even in older houses where hollow walls have wood laths, the walls do not run between floors. The party walls between houses in a terrace are still brick brick up through the loft and extend 18 inches above the roof in most cases, so fire cannot spread along the lofts. These regulations have been in place for more than 200 years.
@@wilsjane Gee wiz I seem to recall Canadian pumpers all having booster lines. In fact most had 2. Water was poured the fire just as fast as on this video. But now days it's hurry up and wait. Booster/reel lines were the most valuable part of the pumper/engine. Heck even some ALF ladders came with a booster. The first truck in should have cancelled everyone else. They had it easily. But instead a mass congestion of rigs pile up with no command to delegate where they should go. Instead they all drove past the building and blocked everything off. No ariel unit sent that I could see...a tad odd. Maybe it was coming from the right side of the screen but couldn't make it past the blockage.
It's instant water from the tank called a High pressure hose reel..on a rotating drum you pull out as much as you need ..pump operated opens the tank and usually pumps it up to around 20-25 bars of pressure.. ..👍
We'll never learn. Too many dinosaurs in the American fire services. They enjoy taking 3 minutes untangling hundreds of feet of hose line for smaller fires like this. BUT...that longer, higher volume hose is needed for larger fires. Your dinky roll out hoses, although quick to deploy and appropriate for a fire like this, would be like trying to piss on a much larger fire {I must say though, that fully enclosed concrete flats/apartments (or homes) are much easier to fight with simply placing water on the fire from the outside as shown her. In all actuality, this fire was dying down as the fire department arrived due to most of the flammable materials had already been exhausted.].
@@matthewsims4457 They have the bigger ones too..probably looking for the hydrant while the " dinky ones " are first shot. ( I suspect I'm not telling you anything you didn't know though, if you are interested in such matters )
@@matthewsims4457those roll out ones are great for getting water on fast, that are perfect for putting out vehicle fires, and they are ideal for stopping things spreading while the second engine goes and opens a hydrant and connects up the bigger hoses
There is always comparison on these videos between the American and European styles of fighting fires. However praise should really be given to all firefighters who risk there lives on a daily basis, to deal with what in all probability is someone's carelessness.
I live on the 12th floor of this apartment block. I didn't even realize there had been a fire until I had to go out to work in the afternoon. That shows how safe this building is. We've all had new fireproof front doors fitted recently, and there are two fire doors between the apartments and the elevators. As I was leaving, I asked a fire officer if the people living there were okay; he said they were. It looks like they were not at home. I feel for those guys - they've lost everything
I used to live in Welbeck house on the 7th-floor yrs ago (around 2001 I have now lived down southwest in Bristol for the past 18 yrs but still come home to see family in Ashton) and TBH I never felt totally safe there fire wise....only because the fire doors we had back then between the lift lobby and the 3 flats were glass with the wire running through then and had wooden painted frames (or at least that's WHAT THEY LOOKED LIKE) I am glad to see post-Grenfell that they have had to change some stuff! THE ONLY thing i would like to ask as you are a current resident is have they put fire doors between the lift lobby and the stairwells now? that was my biggest concern back then that if a fire (god forbid) go out onto the lift lobby landing then the stairwell was open top to bottom and would act as a chimney and block the one and only means of escape due to smoke! ..i do hope they have made the stairwells more contained in the 3 blocks than they were back then!
@@dizzydevil547 Yeah, they have. Also, we've got sprinklers, fire alarms, and three smoke detectors in each apartment - one in the hallway, and two in the kitchen. I lived in Welbeck way back in 1996, and then lived in Ellison for six years between 2005 to 2010. They're much safer now. My only issue is I can't have my cat; he has to live with my cousin
@@helengrantham2588 so glad to hear that! IM NOT saying they were death traps before Grenfell BUt i always had my concerns with the open stairwells opening up onto the lift lobbies! so sorry to hear you can't have your cat there! ..used to be able to have pets back when I lived in Welbeck house! not sure who runs the housing association now!
this appears to be a good response from the Fire Brigade . The building, by response from tenants, appears to do its job. I would feel more comfortable knowing this if looking or living in these units. Good luck to tenants
No we the (UK) aren’t🤣 We could learn so much from the Americans. We have fell well behind other countries in terms of firefighting and general rescue capabilities.
We have different fire fighting styles. Yes we can pull up and do what you guys do and Spray water from the outside, however we're not trying to spread the fire to other parts of the apartment or building which is why we go inside to fight the fire.
quite interesting.....I'm a retired Firefighter from the southern calif area.....when I was working, this water through the window would have been a "talking to"... I believe it is now a common practice to cool the room down from the outside before entry and extinguishment...the old thought was that the application of water would "push" the fire to uninvolved areas...
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From the looks of blasted windows and the smoke, the fire is already fully developed and burning everything everywhere in the appartment. It looks relevant to do an immediate exterior attack to cool down as much smoke as possible and it looked effective when you see the giant cloud of steam coming out the other set of windows. We can't see very well but I guess the other high pressure hose has been used to do an interior attack. The exterior fireman then switched to peripheral cooling to avoid the smoke escaping through the windows to create more damage to the cladding.
@ im in uk and here they generaly use the hose reel on first arrival they get the hose reel and start putting down water onto the fire from the onbourd water tanks which holds enough water for six minutes at same time the driver who is also the pump opperator locates the nearest hydrant and lays a line from that to the pump all that is done in under 60seconds. on this building only the reels would be used. if it was a huge factory or lager retail complex then the main hoses are used in order to laydown even more water with greater pressure
I'm old school. Putting water from a window always seemed to work just fine. Then someone came up with hitting from the rear. Twenty years later, they're going back to the old way.
I love european firefighting. No pissing around. Water on the fire in 23 seconds, that's professionalism. Well done. We in North America should start using booster reels for quick knock downs too.
@@billdacitizan380 At what point were the stairwells searched, from the fire floor to the roof bulkhead? What about the public hall on the fire floor? When was that searched for possible victims? What about the apartment directly above the fire apartment? Does the response policy not call for an aerial device at a report of fire in an occupied multi family, high-rise residence?
15 seconds after arrival..... WE ( Brit lads) know how to do it, no smashing glass, no sthil sawing, no ripping holes in the roof, just put lots of water on it quickly.... FDNY take note !
These structure fire videos are better than any of today's reality television shows. Ashton under Lyne, is very historical. A center of coal mining. Today, it's very popular for making movies, and has a large cultural diversity. The canals, are a popular attraction.
Okay, the water came really quickly. But i am surprised by some things. No police, noone keeping traffic out, no ambulances. Did someone check if all the residents are fine? (Smoke inhalation...). Was the building evacuated? I must have missed the moment when a team goes in and extinguishes the fire from the inside.
@@tomp8871 Well we don't know. All we see in our perspective are the cars passing by. Who knows someone with conscience might have been already knocking on everyone's door announcing about the fire.
Very skilled FF there. Most of the USA could learn from y'all over there. Our fire crews are lazy AF compared to this...water on it in under 30 seconds arriving on scene and extinguished within 15. Terrific work.
Very impressive response and knockdown of fire. Five engine companies. Not a single ladder company for a apartment fire in a ten story residential building. Don't see any chiefs, safety officers or rescue squads. A different style of firefighting in the UK than in North America.
An aerial ladder platform ('ladder company') would have been dispatched but maybe it was cancelled en route. This type apartment building is designed for internal firefighting as the priority. A dry riser is fitted the height of the building (connect a hose at ground floor externally and there's an outlet on each floor to connect a 2.5 inch hose). The building is clad in concrete panels so no issue like the Grenfell Tower disaster in London with inflammable cladding. Five pumps arrived from probably: Ashton (1.6 miles), Stalybridge (1.9 miles), Hyde (3.2 miles), Hollins (3.3 miles) and Mossley (3.7 miles). Greater Manchester Fire & Rescue Service have 41 stations covering about 500 square miles and a population of 2.8 million. Unlike the USA, in the UK each town doesn't individually operate it's own fire service. That system ended with the outbreak of war in 1939. The fire services cover much larger areas. In recent years they have expanded further (Scotland is covered by one organisation, as is Northern Ireland).
@@nevillemason6791 was the 5-pump response dispatched on the initial report of fire in a multi story building? Or did the first arriving officer “make pumps five”?
I didn't notice the 6th pump arrive at 11.52 (but there was a break in the video so arrival time is unknown). I don't know what the standard response would be but the 2nd and 3rd pumps arrived only 2 mins 35 secs after the first so must have been a minimum of three.
Yeah they'll have sent the three initial "pumps" as standard for a tower block along with a ladder which will have been en-route from further away because they don't have those at every station. They're not usually needed. The "chief" or scene commander travels to the scene in the fire engine itself, they're the guys with the white helmets. On larger fires, higher ranking officers may arrive in their own cars but they're not dispatched as standard. We don't have seperate safety officers or rescue squads. The crew on the fire engine are all trained in procedures to mimic these "specialties" so we don't have separate vehicles usually. There ARE specialist technical rescue and water rescue squads in their own trucks, but again they aren't usually needed for fires. They're dispatched to traffic collisions and so on.
@@GeorgeThoughts when you refer to a “ladder”, do you mean a turntable ladder or a water tender ladder? I don’t know much about UK standard operating procedures and I’m always eager to learn more.
Now was that so difficult? You can see the burning rooms so you put your tank water through the windows and eliminate the threat. The FDNY would have head for the roof and front door while they let it burn and spread for the next 20 minutes.
lol thats just false asf. They fried anyone who is still inside, thats why you go interior to fight the fire like a man and not stand outside like a bitch. I don't see ANY personnel from that engine attempting to make entry to do searches or evacuations. The alarm is sounding but that doesn't always mean everyone is out. The FDNY is the busiest and most prestigious Department in the United States, even going as far as teaching people around the world, even the British. Get off your high horse and respect those that built this job, you schmuck. Theres a method to their madness. You guys legit just killed ANYONE that was alive on the fire floor by steaming them alive since you put that stream through that window. Good job boy scount.
@@robmonkey Actually No! The FDNY is one of the worst departments in the world! Watch these videos and you may change your mind. th-cam.com/play/PLkp0E1ao1XEyglhxetar50BGAuQ5CEoCu.html
What should be noted is that the first fire engine was in attendance and on it`s own for 2.5 minutes before the second fire engine arrived! UK modern day standards of fire cover.
What is the point of having cordon tape in use when the General Public are just happily going back and forward and not one member of the fire service are stopping them ? The cordon tape is there for the public safety !!
Luckily it was extinguished quickly. It's sad for the person who may have lost everything, more so if they're uninsured. It looks like quite a depressing place to live.
He's just suppressing the fire externally while the rest of the firefighters tackle the fire within the building. At 3:35 a firefighter connects a hose to the rear of the fire engine and unrolls it to connect to the ground level inlet on the building's 'dry riser'. The dry riser is a pipe running vertically up the inside of the building with outlets on each floor. A hose will be connected to the outlet on the floor where the fire is to fight the fire. This avoids dragging hose up what could be many flights of stairs. The action is all out of sight.
I feel terrible for the person who's flat this was. Of course, on top of losing everything you own, if this building belongs to some housing association, or even if it's privately rented by a landlord, there's always the risk that they could try to take legal action. I know because it happened to me and I spent 5 and a half months in prison, but there were other factors at play. Hopefully in their case they have more of a heart than that but then again this is housing we're talking about here, and landlords can sometimes be heartless d___heads. Whatever the case I hope they managed to find somewhere temporary to live with a friend or family member.
In other countries the Firefighters are better trained, more professional and don't waste any time in getting water on a fire. In this country your lucky if anyone even shows up within the first ten minutes.....
@@fmartinjri.e . check if someone is in danger or need some help or at least change boardwalk Just in case if there was some flammable inside the burning home. Hard to believe how many frozen Findus flounder brains directed to mosquee or beer & betting house
At 12 minutes there are 8 engines on scene but not a single truck company. After Grenfell, I find this truly remarkable, particularly in light of the IC's decision to do an exterior attack.
@@patgeorge1 it may have worked this time but as he said, things happen as apparently with Grenfell. It's better to be safe than sorry with large scale buildings as the worst can happen. We do the exact same here in the states for large buildings and pre-plan for such emergencies where a high loss of life is potential. 4 or 5 members in a crew is ideal for interior attack, we do interior attack here in the states with much less - all we need is two in and two out for precaution. The first due unit's job is to establish water supply and get inside to find the fire and put it out as well as potentially locate any possible victims (which again is why you go interior, which they did not do, you treat all buildings as occupied until told otherwise). IC's decision was questionable and had this gone a bad way, he would be at fault for his actions.
Hi Helen, you said that the fire was ten floors below you and you didn't realise. Does that really mean the building is safe ? There's no such thing as a fireproof door. There are doors that are resistant to fire.
When Widsor Castle burnt down. Right at the base of Brunswick Tower. The one that went up like a Roman cande and bang on in the muffle of the fire. At yhe bottom was the Glass Pantry. The doors at be it Extremely thick oak doors were shut. The fire was just trying to lock at the bottom of them. Having got inside, every glass was in tack. Exept one a Fireman dropped. The shelves were jet black with loads of White Circles. Closed Doors are Very effective. No, they won't prevent the spread of fire but can help immensely to slow it down
Was there any one in
Luckily no one was inside when the fire broke out
@@alaminkarimvlogs8263 how did the fire break out?
@@marklaverty6043 I don't know exactly why fire break out
Fone and ask.
@@marklaverty6043 e bike charger and battery
Regardless of all the comments here, some negative,some positive, I do think this was a pretty quick response, by all the engines. Water on within a minute of arriving, FFs inside using the dry riser and within the flat quickly too. A big well done I’d say.
One thing about the British fire fighters; they get the wet stuff on the red stuff very quickly. No itching and scratching like in some countries.
Absolutely amazing at the rapid response from time of arrival to getting water on .Not like American firefighters who run around in a disorganized fashion like headless chickens !
You've baited me. What you are referring to are volunteer fire departments. We actually go in and fight the fire. But to each its own.
Nice cowardly attack, jeopardizing the integrity of the interior hall and exits... Cowards
in America they make a big show with the fire trucks but wenn the arrive it takes ten minutes to get some wather on the fire!!!
Yep true
@CovidCash right. But they just see it as"hey were putting water on the fire" not realizing your pushing it everywhere its not
That was probably less than twenty seconds from arrival to water on the fire 👍
They use a booster line, the engine has a 500 gallon tank for fast water supply.
@@jimkeappock7558 ya I know a little bit about firefighting. It just seems some departments are in slow motion often
If I remember from being over there, British fire apparatus is more about pressure than gpms, too.
@@EyeWatchThemAll That is because of the architecture of our buildings. Every apartment is a concrete box, with a minimum of one hour fire separation, so the only fire load was the furnishings. Just bounce the water off the ceiling, job done. To avoid getting smoke into the stairwell, they would not have opened the door to the apartment until most of the smoke had vented out through the windows.
This method would certainly not have worked in the US or Canada.
Even if within the apartment they had hollow walls, they end at the ceiling and do not run through. The walls are gypsum which is non combustible and the studding is light weight steel box sections, so there's nothing to burn.
Even in older houses where hollow walls have wood laths, the walls do not run between floors. The party walls between houses in a terrace are still brick brick up through the loft and extend 18 inches above the roof in most cases, so fire cannot spread along the lofts.
These regulations have been in place for more than 200 years.
@@wilsjane Gee wiz I seem to recall Canadian pumpers all having booster lines. In fact most had 2. Water was poured the fire just as fast as on this video. But now days it's hurry up and wait. Booster/reel lines were the most valuable part of the pumper/engine. Heck even some ALF ladders came with a booster.
The first truck in should have cancelled everyone else. They had it easily. But instead a mass congestion of rigs pile up with no command to delegate where they should go. Instead they all drove past the building and blocked everything off. No ariel unit sent that I could see...a tad odd. Maybe it was coming from the right side of the screen but couldn't make it past the blockage.
Very impressive! They got water on the fire in less than a minute after arriving.
It's instant water from the tank called a High pressure hose reel..on a rotating drum you pull out as much as you need ..pump operated opens the tank and usually pumps it up to around 20-25 bars of pressure.. ..👍
beats he americans who spend more time venting the fire than putting it out
@@paulthackery4082 lmao. Stay in the yard you dweebs. You guys recover, not rescue
I gota say that was great getting water on the fire in seconds. Take note, America.
@@timburks3806 never. Ain’t no spraying in the window around here.
Huge difference in fire attack style by those guys across the pond.
We'll never learn. Too many dinosaurs in the American fire services. They enjoy taking 3 minutes untangling hundreds of feet of hose line for smaller fires like this. BUT...that longer, higher volume hose is needed for larger fires. Your dinky roll out hoses, although quick to deploy and appropriate for a fire like this, would be like trying to piss on a much larger fire {I must say though, that fully enclosed concrete flats/apartments (or homes) are much easier to fight with simply placing water on the fire from the outside as shown her. In all actuality, this fire was dying down as the fire department arrived due to most of the flammable materials had already been exhausted.].
@@matthewsims4457 They have the bigger ones too..probably looking for the hydrant while the " dinky ones " are first shot. ( I suspect I'm not telling you anything you didn't know though, if you are interested in such matters )
@@matthewsims4457those roll out ones are great for getting water on fast, that are perfect for putting out vehicle fires, and they are ideal for stopping things spreading while the second engine goes and opens a hydrant and connects up the bigger hoses
@@dasy2k1we done role hoses out here. We have quick deploy shoulder lay cross lays.
Was always curious about that? Always see yanks going into a structure fire, yet they don’t take the means to fight it????
How is that even possible??
There is always comparison on these videos between the American and European styles of fighting fires. However praise should really be given to all firefighters who risk there lives on a daily basis, to deal with what in all probability is someone's carelessness.
Arrival 2:10, water on fire 2:33……23 seconds. Very impressive
The building reacted to fire the way it was designed, the fire crews responded the way they were trained, a good job all round, well done
While the Hose reel jet was first to be used i think that maybe a safety jet 45mm should be rolled out in case things escalate,
I live on the 12th floor of this apartment block. I didn't even realize there had been a fire until I had to go out to work in the afternoon. That shows how safe this building is. We've all had new fireproof front doors fitted recently, and there are two fire doors between the apartments and the elevators. As I was leaving, I asked a fire officer if the people living there were okay; he said they were. It looks like they were not at home. I feel for those guys - they've lost everything
You have had new fire doors fitted to the block of flats due to the grenfell fire incident. 🇬🇧
Proof that old style construction is simply better. Might not look as nice as modern day flats. But it’s as safe as houses and will last forever👍
I used to live in Welbeck house on the 7th-floor yrs ago (around 2001 I have now lived down southwest in Bristol for the past 18 yrs but still come home to see family in Ashton) and TBH I never felt totally safe there fire wise....only because the fire doors we had back then between the lift lobby and the 3 flats were glass with the wire running through then and had wooden painted frames (or at least that's WHAT THEY LOOKED LIKE) I am glad to see post-Grenfell that they have had to change some stuff! THE ONLY thing i would like to ask as you are a current resident is have they put fire doors between the lift lobby and the stairwells now? that was my biggest concern back then that if a fire (god forbid) go out onto the lift lobby landing then the stairwell was open top to bottom and would act as a chimney and block the one and only means of escape due to smoke! ..i do hope they have made the stairwells more contained in the 3 blocks than they were back then!
@@dizzydevil547 Yeah, they have. Also, we've got sprinklers, fire alarms, and three smoke detectors in each apartment - one in the hallway, and two in the kitchen. I lived in Welbeck way back in 1996, and then lived in Ellison for six years between 2005 to 2010. They're much safer now. My only issue is I can't have my cat; he has to live with my cousin
@@helengrantham2588 so glad to hear that! IM NOT saying they were death traps before Grenfell BUt i always had my concerns with the open stairwells opening up onto the lift lobbies! so sorry to hear you can't have your cat there! ..used to be able to have pets back when I lived in Welbeck house! not sure who runs the housing association now!
really good camera work. Steady movements, good use of wider shots. Holding shots for more than 5 seconds. Impressive.
this appears to be a good response from the Fire Brigade . The building, by response from tenants, appears to do its job. I would feel more comfortable knowing this if looking or living in these units. Good luck to tenants
Brave men and women and to think the governments trying to screw them support these workers
American firefighters take note 25 seconds from stopping till water on fire, that's why we are the best in the world.
No we the (UK) aren’t🤣 We could learn so much from the Americans.
We have fell well behind other countries in terms of firefighting and general rescue capabilities.
We have different fire fighting styles. Yes we can pull up and do what you guys do and Spray water from the outside, however we're not trying to spread the fire to other parts of the apartment or building which is why we go inside to fight the fire.
Nice cowardly attack, like a volley operation,
London During the blitz were trained By the FDNY
@@CarTalesCrew Interior firefighting happens in the UK too. It happened in this video. The US is unfortunately a long way behind the times.
The compartmentalization seems to have worked, intense fire is restricted to one unit.
Was thinking it looks contained.
That was how it was supposed to be at Grenfell. Until they put firebomb cladding on the outside.
I guess you were inside the building during this Fire?
Love seeing water on the fire in less than 30 seconds out of the truck.
yeah at the expense of a primary search, they cooked anyone inside alive, gg.
@@caomhnoir386 no persons reported, Occupants phoned fire service the flat was empty
@@danielmichaels1505 burn🤣
@@caomhnoir386 Bullshit
@@caomhnoir386 they would have been long cooked before then you melon
quite interesting.....I'm a retired Firefighter from the southern calif area.....when I was working, this water through the window would have been a "talking to"... I believe it is now a common practice to cool the room down from the outside before entry and extinguishment...the old thought was that the application of water would "push" the fire to uninvolved areas...
From the looks of blasted windows and the smoke, the fire is already fully developed and burning everything everywhere in the appartment. It looks relevant to do an immediate exterior attack to cool down as much smoke as possible and it looked effective when you see the giant cloud of steam coming out the other set of windows. We can't see very well but I guess the other high pressure hose has been used to do an interior attack. The exterior fireman then switched to peripheral cooling to avoid the smoke escaping through the windows to create more damage to the cladding.
@ im in uk and here they generaly use the hose reel on first arrival they get the hose reel and start putting down water onto the fire from the onbourd water tanks which holds enough water for six minutes at same time the driver who is also the pump opperator locates the nearest hydrant and lays a line from that to the pump all that is done in under 60seconds. on this building only the reels would be used. if it was a huge factory or lager retail complex then the main hoses are used in order to laydown even more water with greater pressure
It would create a steam to help combat the the fire, ex fireman.
I'm old school. Putting water from a window always seemed to work just fine. Then someone came up with hitting from the rear. Twenty years later, they're going back to the old way.
People walking by like this is a everyday occurrence. How about pulling a fire alarm?
Very quick response. On the fire quicker than most I have seen. Bravo to your firefighters!
The target time for water onto visible fire in the UK is 30 seconds.
Damn... water on within 30 seconds of the appliance stopping. Outstanding
Perfect Knock it down from the outside and then go in and mop it up. Love these concrete walled rooms.
Great video, covering the thing from start to finish. Thank you!
British: **20 seconds after arrival, water on fire*
USA: **Spends 20 minutes setting up the hoses before actually putting water on it**
Fantastic response .Great fire fighting skills .fire out within 10 to 15 mins of arrival 👏 👏
Excellent video. Fast reaction by GMFRS
I love european firefighting. No pissing around. Water on the fire in 23 seconds, that's professionalism. Well done. We in North America should start using booster reels for quick knock downs too.
Those reels are also better at extinguishing a vehicle fire than pretty much anything else. Especially if they can also flow foam
Great job by firefighters
Very nice video. Very quick reaction and almost instant water on the fire as soon as the truck arrived.
Very good job, greatings from firedepartment Rotterdam.
Great work from Fire Service. So sad that in some areas of UK a tender could be down to 3 crew attendance. 😢
british firemen are the best
20 seconds from stopping to putting water on….superb…..👍👍👍
1 minute and 43 seconds and the first comment in the video, OH MY GOD, THERES A FIRE, no shit sherlock
Nice knockdown. Some American cities would have 10 Chevy Suburban battalion chief cars and two fire engines - and take four hours to put the fire out.
After it burns down
Well done guys and (maybe) dolls! Extinguish from the inside to the outside. Less water damage.
What...?
Quando ,parli così, è meglio che stai zitto ,perché non sai .
The apartment was destroyd but the fire didnt spread. Nice work!
Excellent work, I hope that no one was hurt? USA, please note that water was on the fire within the first minute!
Tell us how long it took before the first firefighter actually gained entry into the fire apartment.
yep. in USA it would have burned for another 5 minutes while they get their hoses out and put on gear. Fire? Water!
Humboldt You don’t know very much about firefighting in the USA don’t know what you are basing your opinion on.
@@billdacitizan380 At what point were the stairwells searched, from the fire floor to the roof bulkhead? What about the public hall on the fire floor? When was that searched for possible victims? What about the apartment directly above the fire apartment? Does the response policy not call for an aerial device at a report of fire in an occupied multi family, high-rise residence?
15 seconds after arrival..... WE ( Brit lads) know how to do it, no smashing glass, no sthil sawing, no ripping holes in the roof, just put lots of water on it quickly.... FDNY take note !
Hows the driver got the pump to work without opening the pump bay and dropping the tank?
Why so many fire engines? Surely 1/2 is enough. What happens if a shout comes in and there's no nearby units?
These structure fire videos are better than any of today's reality television shows. Ashton under Lyne, is very historical. A center of coal mining. Today, it's very popular for making movies, and has a large cultural diversity. The canals, are a popular attraction.
I live around the corner from from Portland House hope no one was hurt
What caused the fire in the apartment?
Okay, the water came really quickly. But i am surprised by some things. No police, noone keeping traffic out, no ambulances. Did someone check if all the residents are fine? (Smoke inhalation...). Was the building evacuated? I must have missed the moment when a team goes in and extinguishes the fire from the inside.
THIS is one WELL constructed building!!!!!! I live in one similar in the U.S.....Never felt safer!
These guys get it done. The blokes over here across the pond could learn a thing or two from these chaps!
Yeah we won’t be standing out in the street pissing on it, good try tho
The absence of flammable cladding prevent the spread of fire up the building the fire remained compartmentalised with no danger to other occupants
Great effort by the fire brigade getting water on to the fire within 30 seconds of arrival.
Great video.
Truley amazing, everyone just keeps walking by. (Before FD shows)
True...but are they going to fight the fire? No...they are not.
@@Steve-tj9on I didn't imply that. I would have went and seen if every one was out. That's all Steve
@@tomp8871 ok...good enough. Got you👍🏼
@@tomp8871 Well we don't know. All we see in our perspective are the cars passing by.
Who knows someone with conscience might have been already knocking on everyone's door announcing about the fire.
Amazing the amount of Fktards that drive and walk past. Smash the fire alarm and shout FIRE, FIRE, FIRE.
100 % good job and fast action .
What was the cause in the end ?
Very skilled FF there. Most of the USA could learn from y'all over there. Our fire crews are lazy AF compared to this...water on it in under 30 seconds arriving on scene and extinguished within 15. Terrific work.
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Very impressive response and knockdown of fire. Five engine companies. Not a single ladder company for a apartment fire in a ten story residential building. Don't see any chiefs, safety officers or rescue squads. A different style of firefighting in the UK than in North America.
An aerial ladder platform ('ladder company') would have been dispatched but maybe it was cancelled en route. This type apartment building is designed for internal firefighting as the priority. A dry riser is fitted the height of the building (connect a hose at ground floor externally and there's an outlet on each floor to connect a 2.5 inch hose). The building is clad in concrete panels so no issue like the Grenfell Tower disaster in London with inflammable cladding. Five pumps arrived from probably: Ashton (1.6 miles), Stalybridge (1.9 miles), Hyde (3.2 miles), Hollins (3.3 miles) and Mossley (3.7 miles). Greater Manchester Fire & Rescue Service have 41 stations covering about 500 square miles and a population of 2.8 million. Unlike the USA, in the UK each town doesn't individually operate it's own fire service. That system ended with the outbreak of war in 1939. The fire services cover much larger areas. In recent years they have expanded further (Scotland is covered by one organisation, as is Northern Ireland).
@@nevillemason6791 was the 5-pump response dispatched on the initial report of fire in a multi story building? Or did the first arriving officer “make pumps five”?
I didn't notice the 6th pump arrive at 11.52 (but there was a break in the video so arrival time is unknown). I don't know what the standard response would be but the 2nd and 3rd pumps arrived only 2 mins 35 secs after the first so must have been a minimum of three.
Yeah they'll have sent the three initial "pumps" as standard for a tower block along with a ladder which will have been en-route from further away because they don't have those at every station. They're not usually needed. The "chief" or scene commander travels to the scene in the fire engine itself, they're the guys with the white helmets. On larger fires, higher ranking officers may arrive in their own cars but they're not dispatched as standard. We don't have seperate safety officers or rescue squads. The crew on the fire engine are all trained in procedures to mimic these "specialties" so we don't have separate vehicles usually. There ARE specialist technical rescue and water rescue squads in their own trucks, but again they aren't usually needed for fires. They're dispatched to traffic collisions and so on.
@@GeorgeThoughts when you refer to a “ladder”, do you mean a turntable ladder or a water tender ladder? I don’t know much about UK standard operating procedures and I’m always eager to learn more.
Very fast, nice 👍
wow the fire brigade are doing an amazing job
Now was that so difficult? You can see the burning rooms so you put your tank water through the windows and eliminate the threat. The FDNY would have head for the roof and front door while they let it burn and spread for the next 20 minutes.
lol thats just false asf. They fried anyone who is still inside, thats why you go interior to fight the fire like a man and not stand outside like a bitch. I don't see ANY personnel from that engine attempting to make entry to do searches or evacuations. The alarm is sounding but that doesn't always mean everyone is out. The FDNY is the busiest and most prestigious Department in the United States, even going as far as teaching people around the world, even the British. Get off your high horse and respect those that built this job, you schmuck. Theres a method to their madness. You guys legit just killed ANYONE that was alive on the fire floor by steaming them alive since you put that stream through that window. Good job boy scount.
I see you're still bitter that you've been rejected by every fire department you've applied to 😆😅😂🤣
You're right about everything except the 20 minutes part. FDNY is much faster than that. Some other US fire departments, not so much
@@virgilhilts3924 And thank God for that.
@@robmonkey Actually No! The FDNY is one of the worst departments in the world! Watch these videos and you may change your mind. th-cam.com/play/PLkp0E1ao1XEyglhxetar50BGAuQ5CEoCu.html
What started it ?
Pour une fois, j'admire la rapidité de la mise en oeuvre d'une lance a eau, ce n'est pas le cas sur certaines chaînes.....
What should be noted is that the first fire engine was in attendance and on it`s own for 2.5 minutes before the second fire engine arrived! UK modern day standards of fire cover.
Appliances could of been at another less serious job they they they have to pack up and travel to the large occupancy building. 🇬🇧
2:03 the engine arrives. 2:31 there is water on the fire. That is 28 seconds. Are you watching, american firefighters?!?
Hope everyone is okay
What is the point of having cordon tape in use when the General Public are just happily going back and forward and not one member of the fire service are stopping them ?
The cordon tape is there for the public safety !!
Those project apartments are nearly flameproof.
way faster than American fire fighters
Luckily it was extinguished quickly. It's sad for the person who may have lost everything, more so if they're uninsured. It looks like quite a depressing place to live.
WoW! quick water!!BAM usa.👍🚒
You narrow minded clown.. only a fool would base their opinions on videos of rural volunteer, small town or spread out city they see on TH-cam.
Some context and background be good. Like how the fire started and shit.
"sorry, Chief, the ladder is out at Scania workshop doing annual service and engine oil change...,"
Hope no one was injured.
I live on the 12th floor of this apartment block. I asked a fire officer - no one was hurt.
UK fire crews arrive water on....seems in the USA fire crews arrive, have a stand around and let it burn a bit more than put the water on.
Here in the Netherlands mostly the police arrived as first, and the firebrigade after that..
Perché l'anno chiamata prima .
Oh my good 😮😮
Top Job 👍
Is there anibody in there? I don't know!
All right fingers crossed and go for it... 😮
Water on immediately, then get set up and enter. excellent
The bloke in blue at 14:40 realises he won't be buying his crack supply today...
backdraft or what ?
The interior of that flat is burnt to a crisp...... I hope no one got hurt....
no one calls the people out of this house?
Well done to the firepersons ,hope no one was in there or hurt.😮
Me watching:
One guy with a hose. Ok good.
Still one guy with a hose.
Still ONE guy with a hose.
STILL ... ???
He's just suppressing the fire externally while the rest of the firefighters tackle the fire within the building. At 3:35 a firefighter connects a hose to the rear of the fire engine and unrolls it to connect to the ground level inlet on the building's 'dry riser'. The dry riser is a pipe running vertically up the inside of the building with outlets on each floor. A hose will be connected to the outlet on the floor where the fire is to fight the fire. This avoids dragging hose up what could be many flights of stairs. The action is all out of sight.
I feel terrible for the person who's flat this was. Of course, on top of losing everything you own, if this building belongs to some housing association, or even if it's privately rented by a landlord, there's always the risk that they could try to take legal action. I know because it happened to me and I spent 5 and a half months in prison, but there were other factors at play. Hopefully in their case they have more of a heart than that but then again this is housing we're talking about here, and landlords can sometimes be heartless d___heads. Whatever the case I hope they managed to find somewhere temporary to live with a friend or family member.
In other countries the Firefighters are better trained, more professional and don't waste any time in getting water on a fire. In this country your lucky if anyone even shows up within the first ten minutes.....
Which country are you talking about?
@@lewisricekrispy2 I was comparing the United States to the United Kingdom which is where this fire occured......
@@moviemagg when saying "I this country" are you referring to the UK or US? As you havn't really made it clear.
@@lewisricekrispy2 I was referring to the United States.......
@@moviemagg ah, makes sense.
I was somewhat surprised by the inaction by passerby's before arrival of fire service.
A quick look to the left and just kept walking like it was an everyday thing.
What did you want them to do.... jump up and down?
@@fmartinjri.e . check if someone is in danger or need some help or at least change boardwalk Just in case if there was some flammable inside the burning home. Hard to believe how many frozen Findus flounder brains directed to mosquee or beer & betting house
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At 12 minutes there are 8 engines on scene but not a single truck company. After Grenfell, I find this truly remarkable, particularly in light of the IC's decision to do an exterior attack.
First pump to arrive did an exterior attack as only 4 or 5 crew and anyway it worked did we see the whole picture?
Only 5 pumps attended the scene and ALP wasn’t needed
@@patgeorge1 it may have worked this time but as he said, things happen as apparently with Grenfell. It's better to be safe than sorry with large scale buildings as the worst can happen. We do the exact same here in the states for large buildings and pre-plan for such emergencies where a high loss of life is potential. 4 or 5 members in a crew is ideal for interior attack, we do interior attack here in the states with much less - all we need is two in and two out for precaution. The first due unit's job is to establish water supply and get inside to find the fire and put it out as well as potentially locate any possible victims (which again is why you go interior, which they did not do, you treat all buildings as occupied until told otherwise). IC's decision was questionable and had this gone a bad way, he would be at fault for his actions.
I find it remarkable that you still think you have the slightest clue about firefighting 😆😅😂🤣
@@danielmichaels1505 I saw 8
But... Why no tlp on scene?
bravo lads. heroes.
In America the building would have collapsed.
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Oh my God
If I were walking down the street and saw this, I'D DO WHAT I CAN TO HELP. What if there were kids in there? Or even adults?
I've had to keep my bloody windows closed for hours, thanks a lot how inconsiderate.
First rule evacuate everyone from hazad situations not just fire but gas explorations..hopefully people are okay
Water on the fire in 30 seconds from arrivals, not like the American clowns who turn up and fart around for 5 minutes before flowing water.
Hi Helen, you said that the fire was ten floors below you and you didn't realise. Does that really mean the building is safe ? There's no such thing as a fireproof door. There are doors that are resistant to fire.
When Widsor Castle burnt down. Right at the base of Brunswick Tower. The one that went up like a Roman cande and bang on in the muffle of the fire. At yhe bottom was the Glass Pantry. The doors at be it Extremely thick oak doors were shut. The fire was just trying to lock at the bottom of them. Having got inside, every glass was in tack. Exept one a Fireman dropped. The shelves were jet black with loads of White Circles. Closed Doors are Very effective. No, they won't prevent the spread of fire but can help immensely to slow it down
@Paul Graham Fire doors in flat have to resist a fire for a minimum of 30 minutes
I'm working on this building. That whole flat was destroyed but outside the front door is not even smoke damaged. Its all like new again inside now.
Good attendance by the police they must be filling in all the paperwork for all the crime committed here
The lack of traffic control by police is pathetic.
Didnt even see if any were there .
Be careful with 🔥
Those Towers are death traps