the is Post meter pre main panel for any apartment.. a fuse blow didnt occur at the pole because this is is an arc situation and wasnt an all out short circuit. the amount of current pull by those sparking lines didnt exceed the max load of the transformer protector.. so you get this... more modern systems could detect the severe arcing and open a disconnect, but this appears to be old building in an old area.. often the power companies are slow to respond.. you can see that these are old school meters that arent remote disconnect capable.. in most areas firefighters dont touch the meters
For those asking "Why dont they shut the power off??" Well simply, the fire department has no means to be able to. That appears to be an old cable that fed the two meters you see and is fed directly from a hydro transformer. No fuses, no breakers protecting this cable, only the high voltage fuse protecting the transformer and that only the utility has the means to pull to cut power, so you are waiting on them. If the arcing is sustained long enough the fuse may blow but depending on what size transformer and fuse are present, "secondary" feeds to houses will completely burn up before the fuse on the high voltage side even thinks of blowing. Yes it sounds stupid and dangerous, as a sparky I think it is.
@@danielbianconi6441 Incorrect.. The fire dept does not turn power off. As I stated above the power is shut off by the utility. During a fire you are waiting for them to appear and shut off power to the affected building(s) They will not shut off an entire block or neighbourhood unless there is imminent danger... This wouldnt be considered imminent danger.
@@danielbianconi6441 Incorrect again. 1. If there is a fire I do not think your kid or dog will be anywhere in the area or near that building. If they are, WTF are they doing there? 2. That is 120/240V service, 120V to ground so, not likely to electrify the entire area, as would a high voltage primary feeder falling to the ground. (Look up touch and step potential) 3. It is priority to turn the power off but again THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS NOT PERMITTED TO DO SO, OR PULL A METER.. You will be waiting for THE UTILITY TO ARRIVE AND THAT TAKES TIME, Especislly if its after hours. A fire one street behind me had the UTILITY arrive to cut power, at the pole to the affected building after the fire was damn near out.
@@danielbianconi6441 Kids would of been long gone outta there after the fire started And yes I DO know what I am talking about, I am a licensed electrician and have dealt with inspectors and those that work for my local utility.... When YOU understand how electricty works, how the fire dept and local utilities function then MAYBE you will have an argument... Until then what you speak is irrelevant...
@@danielbianconi6441 O daniel, how brown your eyes have turned from being so full of shit you put sn explosive in a transformer to cut power.. Let's get this clear. I am a red seal electrician, I'd say I'm a pretty darn good one. Again, I am waiting to hear what failsafes there are in a situation like this that would cut power... obviously there is nothing here. So here ya go.. The transformer primary fuse? Nope... Not designed to protect secondary conductors. Secondary breaker? Ya, they exist in some transformers but not here. Other fusing or protection? Nope non existant, never is. Fire departments do request for power to be shut off.. but again it's the utility... And again for a piddly ass townhouse fire they are not going to interrupt an entire neighbourhood or better because its quicker. The power will not be interrupted in a mere few minutes. If it were a large building alight, and there was use of ladder trucks etc around primary line OR the feed to the building could not be isolated from the street they will drop the neighborhood, again that may be more than a mere "few minutes" Turning off power to large areas then picking it up later comes with it's own risks.. I'm sure as the first responder you say you are you have been to many a fire after a power outage where the occupant got distracted and left an appliance on, to which when the power was restored has set things alight.
I always love the recliner chiefs comments lol. Anyway. The hose line getting pinched can happen to anybody. Next time open the nozzle and it should be easier to get out. Great job overall.
True for clearing a pinched line. But as a retired chief of the department, they need a good training officer. The electric company should have been notified when they saw it was a worker. Just commenting in hopes that they take heed. Not nit picking.
That was a stubborn one to put out ( especially in that room in back of the building) but some of them are. Hopefully there were no injuries to anyone related to this incident. Thank you to all firefighters everywhere for protecting the citizens of your coverage area.
I see why that building caught fire! What kind of butcher job electrical wiring is that? Power lines and electrical wires hanging from the façade outside like that!? What kind of building codes or code enforcement do they have there to allow that?
I imagine they ran out of water also. The fire brigade was budting through from front to back. Then with arcing they suddenly stopped from back and front. By the looks of the firemen by 1 truck. Water was done till electric was shut off. Really sad, becauce it will travel and the smoke in other units will wreck them too. Hopefully everyone got out, and pets. So sad.
The video was not showing the full situation. The seat of the fire was in that lower floor rear room. While they were setting up at the front of the building to push the fire back, the exterior crew knocked it down, to reduce the heat and prevent it from spreading upwards and into the roof. They had to then stop when the interior attack took over. This method saved more of the front interior and upper floor. The rear room lighting up again towards the end looked very dramatic, but it had already been destroyed.
You don't always attack an interior fire from the entrance of origin. It is best to attach from the back side of the fire so as not to push it into uninvolved areas of the structure.
The video was not showing the full situation. The seat of the fire was in that lower floor rear room. While they were setting up at the front of the building to push the fire back, the exterior crew knocked it down, to reduce the heat and prevent it from spreading upwards and into the roof. They had to then stop when the interior attack took over. This method saved more of the front interior and upper floor. The rear room lighting up again towards the end looked very dramatic, but it had already been destroyed.
What is powerful about this footage? Fire ground operations started failing whenever interior firefighters could finish the job making the push and knock of this fire. Poor fire ground command and tactical operations.
Here's a little friendly advice. 99.99999999% of the world doesn't even have a clue where Cobourg is. Even if this is absolutely the BEST fire video ever made, if it isn't properly described and given due context, it will be half the quality of those with proper pertinent information even at lower res than you use. Just throwing up a video with no accompanying information doesn't really cut it.
Fireman says to the other fireman... "I'M SHOCKED!!" Other fireman says .. "yeah I know, that was quite a weird and stubborn fire!" First fireman says.. "no literally, I'm shocked! , that was full street voltage and I was soaking wet!!" 😢
If infrastructure is not updated, can you imagine how many additional house fires there will be with electrical vehicles charging inside of home garages?
A House build on the Cheapest Style would be a complete burn down. The whole Apartment Block. Here you see here, that a bit more Solid Building safed the others. The burned Apartment can be restored, that is also takes several Month work, but at least not a complete Lost.
I thought for a while you guys were actually going to make a positive successful interior attack....but apparently something happen and it fizzled out?
great interior and exterior attack avoiding the arcing wires, someone mentioned they just let it burn thats coming from someone who knows nothing about fire fighting, electricity an water dont mix lady safty first,
It is unfortunate that the department is not allowed to pull the meter. Our Department in Ohio it is common practice, especially if the utility company has a longer ETA. Good attack from the front.
Real Fire Departments do shut down utilities up arriving, including electrical. Our Truck Co.'s are able to control electrical service by several means upon arrival, including pulling meters, hot sticks and cutting wires. It's all dependent upon your level of training and experience.
@@joeysingletary2943 I didn't say to pull the meter. I said.... well trained & experienced Truck Co's are capable of controlling electrical & utility control/shut off.
Should have titled this as a townhouse electrical fire. Would have been more exciting watching the two firefighters trying to get the hose from between the fence and concrete steps.
Cobourg's town crier, Mandy Robinson, was responsible for getting people out. She collapsed and was taken to hospital. No follow up from town mayor or Council. Shame.
Why the AF was that still burning after 2 minutes of the truck arriving? Simple internal attack.... Absolutely shocking performance and I'm thankful I live in Europe where the fired departments actually try!
Странно почему не отключают электричество? Понятно почему дом горит, замыкание происходит. В России есть жесткий приказ Мчс: Пока есть напряжение тушить запрещено!!
A wood-handled firefighting axe would've chopped the electrical supply wires at the meter and eliminated the fire expansion threat without shock danger to the firefighter. Just sayin. God bless the selfless firefighters, however.
@@Firemedic76 got it. Agreed to taking the power at the pole to fully ensure safety. Here in the US, we can take the meter as we have a lot of underground power.
Whoever runs the electrical system that apartment complex need to be locked up in jail
Yep. WHat the heck did they bypass circuit breakers?
@@pudster4115 I don't think this is in the circuit breakers from inside. This is the connection from the utility line.
Usually tenants who hook up their own stuff or try to bypass meter.
@@ronaldkovacs7080 That's a bit of an assumption, doncha think?
the is Post meter pre main panel for any apartment.. a fuse blow didnt occur at the pole because this is is an arc situation and wasnt an all out short circuit. the amount of current pull by those sparking lines didnt exceed the max load of the transformer protector.. so you get this... more modern systems could detect the severe arcing and open a disconnect, but this appears to be old building in an old area.. often the power companies are slow to respond.. you can see that these are old school meters that arent remote disconnect capable.. in most areas firefighters dont touch the meters
Great video very clean ,nice job
Dont know what we'd do without you Pete
For those asking "Why dont they shut the power off??"
Well simply, the fire department has no means to be able to.
That appears to be an old cable that fed the two meters you see and is fed directly from a hydro transformer. No fuses, no breakers protecting this cable, only the high voltage fuse protecting the transformer and that only the utility has the means to pull to cut power, so you are waiting on them.
If the arcing is sustained long enough the fuse may blow but depending on what size transformer and fuse are present, "secondary" feeds to houses will completely burn up before the fuse on the high voltage side even thinks of blowing. Yes it sounds stupid and dangerous, as a sparky I think it is.
@@danielbianconi6441 Incorrect..
The fire dept does not turn power off.
As I stated above the power is shut off by the utility. During a fire you are waiting for them to appear and shut off power to the affected building(s)
They will not shut off an entire block or neighbourhood unless there is imminent danger... This wouldnt be considered imminent danger.
@@danielbianconi6441 Incorrect again.
1. If there is a fire I do not think your kid or dog will be anywhere in the area or near that building. If they are, WTF are they doing there?
2. That is 120/240V service, 120V to ground so, not likely to electrify the entire area, as would a high voltage primary feeder falling to the ground. (Look up touch and step potential)
3. It is priority to turn the power off but again THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS NOT PERMITTED TO DO SO, OR PULL A METER.. You will be waiting for THE UTILITY TO ARRIVE AND THAT TAKES TIME, Especislly if its after hours.
A fire one street behind me had the UTILITY arrive to cut power, at the pole to the affected building after the fire was damn near out.
@@danielbianconi6441 Kids would of been long gone outta there after the fire started
And yes I DO know what I am talking about, I am a licensed electrician and have dealt with inspectors and those that work for my local utility....
When YOU understand how electricty works, how the fire dept and local utilities function then MAYBE you will have an argument... Until then what you speak is irrelevant...
@@danielbianconi6441 Oh . And please list the "failsafes" you spoke of.....
We are waiting..
@@danielbianconi6441 O daniel, how brown your eyes have turned from being so full of shit you put sn explosive in a transformer to cut power..
Let's get this clear. I am a red seal electrician, I'd say I'm a pretty darn good one.
Again, I am waiting to hear what failsafes there are in a situation like this that would cut power... obviously there is nothing here. So here ya go..
The transformer primary fuse? Nope... Not designed to protect secondary conductors.
Secondary breaker? Ya, they exist in some transformers but not here.
Other fusing or protection? Nope non existant, never is.
Fire departments do request for power to be shut off.. but again it's the utility... And again for a piddly ass townhouse fire they are not going to interrupt an entire neighbourhood or better because its quicker. The power will not be interrupted in a mere few minutes.
If it were a large building alight, and there was use of ladder trucks etc around primary line OR the feed to the building could not be isolated from the street they will drop the neighborhood, again that may be more than a mere "few minutes"
Turning off power to large areas then picking it up later comes with it's own risks.. I'm sure as the first responder you say you are you have been to many a fire after a power outage where the occupant got distracted and left an appliance on, to which when the power was restored has set things alight.
Nice smooth camera work. No jerking it around so it looks like there's an earthquake along with the fire. Good job.
I always love the recliner chiefs comments lol. Anyway. The hose line getting pinched can happen to anybody. Next time open the nozzle and it should be easier to get out. Great job overall.
agreed not too shabby! good work
True for clearing a pinched line. But as a retired chief of the department, they need a good training officer. The electric company should have been notified when they saw it was a worker.
Just commenting in hopes that they take heed. Not nit picking.
Fire walls are quite amazing.
excellent video
Strong push, nice work
Great fire work show
That electric arcing was making me tense
Great video! Especially showing the building service burning. That was one hot fire 🔥! I hope no one was hurt & everyone made it out fine?
That was a stubborn one to put out ( especially in that room in back of the building) but some of them are. Hopefully there were no injuries to anyone related to this incident.
Thank you to all firefighters everywhere for protecting the citizens of your coverage area.
paint pencil check repeat
I see why that building caught fire! What kind of butcher job electrical wiring is that? Power lines and electrical wires hanging from the façade outside like that!? What kind of building codes or code enforcement do they have there to allow that?
That's the way they all are when built like that.
Our duplex has lines connected to the house like that.
@@kimberlysevastyanenko3798 That’s illegal where I’m at! You see why right?
I think it might be Canada.
@@northwoodsmanbybobolink336 Oh, of course.
I imagine they ran out of water also. The fire brigade was budting through from front to back. Then with arcing they suddenly stopped from back and front. By the looks of the firemen by 1 truck. Water was done till electric was shut off. Really sad, becauce it will travel and the smoke in other units will wreck them too. Hopefully everyone got out, and pets. So sad.
The video was not showing the full situation. The seat of the fire was in that lower floor rear room. While they were setting up at the front of the building to push the fire back, the exterior crew knocked it down, to reduce the heat and prevent it from spreading upwards and into the roof. They had to then stop when the interior attack took over. This method saved more of the front interior and upper floor. The rear room lighting up again towards the end looked very dramatic, but it had already been destroyed.
You don't always attack an interior fire from the entrance of origin. It is best to attach from the back side of the fire so as not to push it into uninvolved areas of the structure.
Almost had it in a few minutes, stopped for a long time and then lost the battle… unbelievable
The video was not showing the full situation. The seat of the fire was in that lower floor rear room. While they were setting up at the front of the building to push the fire back, the exterior crew knocked it down, to reduce the heat and prevent it from spreading upwards and into the roof. They had to then stop when the interior attack took over. This method saved more of the front interior and upper floor. The rear room lighting up again towards the end looked very dramatic, but it had already been destroyed.
It’s electric ⚡️ 🥁
That looks like it was nice hot fire. But a pain in the butt to put out.
I'd keep that spark cool too.
This is powerful footage, Pete.
What is powerful about this footage? Fire ground operations started failing whenever interior firefighters could finish the job making the push and knock of this fire. Poor fire ground command and tactical operations.
I wonder how effective a Cold Cut Unit UHP would be on this type of fire in the initial attack
Here's a little friendly advice. 99.99999999% of the world doesn't even have a clue where Cobourg is. Even if this is absolutely the BEST fire video ever made, if it isn't properly described and given due context, it will be half the quality of those with proper pertinent information even at lower res than you use. Just throwing up a video with no accompanying information doesn't really cut it.
99.99999999% could simply use that fancy thing known as google and type in Cobourg. Just sayin.
Yeah, I first thought it was the German town of Coburg misspelled.
The power is still live!!!!! Where is the truck crew and the utility people? Accident waiting to happen
Fireman says to the other fireman...
"I'M SHOCKED!!"
Other fireman says .. "yeah I know, that was quite a weird and stubborn fire!"
First fireman says.. "no literally, I'm shocked! , that was full street voltage and I was soaking wet!!" 😢
Everyone is going to get a high electric bill in December and January I hope the family are well and Fire Personal Always Always Needed.💯💯💯💯👏👏👏👏
If infrastructure is not updated, can you imagine how many additional house fires there will be with electrical vehicles charging inside of home garages?
Good video popping electric and room and content
OLD building for that part of the country and probably pre-code and retrofit wiring. those places have chimneys for stove and maybe kitchen cooking.
Oh das ist gefährlich mit dem Strom. Bestimmt schwierig zu löschen
Great job Pete!
Food on the stove?
I would think a kitchen fire.
Hopefully nobody was hurt.
So the fire is left to burn, Basement Savers, Unbeliivable!
Except the building is still standing, therefore saving more than the basement.
why did no one turn off the hydro??? zoinks. those townhomes have needed re-wiring for 20 years.
That white wire that goes from the ac into the eave looks odd. I wonder if that caused this fire?
No words
Not much of a firewall between those two units, or does each unit have two back doors?
One back door per unit.
🔥💥🌋
Nice bug zapper
why not 1 hose to protect the houses on the side
what model cam was this shot on? let me guess...... an IPHONE PRO something.
Wow this was hard to watch. Is this there first job?
Yes, every single person there has never been on a fire.
@@greyman686these clowns r fn useless...I can't believe this is in Canada....the u.s i would expect it,but this is just fn embarrassing
It shows.
Two seconds of the hose would have stopped the wire from running the video.
A House build on the Cheapest Style would be a complete burn down. The whole Apartment Block. Here you see here, that a bit more Solid Building safed the others. The burned Apartment can be restored, that is also takes several Month work, but at least not a complete Lost.
ขอโทษและอื่นๆ.....คุณเพ็ญนภาพรรณ องศ์อาจ.....ทุนพนักงานและอื่นๆ....คุณสุพจน์ จันทร์บัว/คุณสุริยา จันทร์บัว.....และอื่นๆ❤❤❤❤❤😂,
Hi, what started the fire
I thought for a while you guys were actually going to make a positive successful interior attack....but apparently something happen and it fizzled out?
At 6:42 you can see very heavy fire condition in the lower floor where is the line.?
looks suspiciously like a Lithiun-ion Battery fire
The powerline is obviously causing the fire
So much for dropping a supply line on your way in.
Interesting sequence. Kinda missed the firefighting.
Like napalm. I.miss the smell of smoke in the morning retired military and firefighter and heavy rescue technicians
where is this?
Hey sparky how are ya ? I haven't seen you in a while ? Or im just sparkling around you know 😁😁
What happened to the circuit breaker? Must be about 20Ka!!
That was really had to watch.. I never seen anything like this.. they were not in any hurry to put water on the fire
Why isn’t it a line on that back window?
Try getting some water on the actual fire/ flames. It may well extinguish the fire ripping up the back of the house.
chez nous en france engie gaz et électrique aurais coupéé l'électricité depuis bien longtemps
220...221. Whatever it takes.
How is it arcing away from the meter? And how does that not trip a breaker at some point?!
That’s what everyone was wondering
It was probably main incoming feed before the home meter and the cutout would have been on the pole
No breaker
@@petefisher2426
Yikes, hydraulic venting into live voltage
What caused the fire?
Electric ⚡ avenue
How about a second line!
Stretch the line past the car, and get water on the fire
great interior and exterior attack avoiding the arcing wires, someone mentioned they just let it burn thats coming from someone who knows nothing about fire fighting, electricity an water dont mix lady safty first,
One thing about fired department they let your sht burn, why ain't they putting out the fires!😮
Have you ever had issues getting this close to fires?
No
It is unfortunate that the department is not allowed to pull the meter. Our Department in Ohio it is common practice, especially if the utility company has a longer ETA. Good attack from the front.
Real Fire Departments do shut down utilities up arriving, including electrical. Our Truck Co.'s are able to control electrical service by several means upon arrival, including pulling meters, hot sticks and cutting wires. It's all dependent upon your level of training and experience.
Pulling meter should not helped with arching the cut out at pole needed to be pulled open
@@joeysingletary2943
I didn't say to pull the meter.
I said.... well trained & experienced Truck Co's are capable of controlling electrical & utility control/shut off.
@@mikefargo4339 uhm actually you did say just that. "by several means upon arrival, including pulling meters."
JEES DID YOU SEE THAT ELECTRIC CAPLE SPARKING?
Should have titled this as a townhouse electrical fire. Would have been more exciting watching the two firefighters trying to get the hose from between the fence and concrete steps.
Cobourg's town crier, Mandy Robinson, was responsible for getting people out. She collapsed and was taken to hospital. No follow up from town mayor or Council. Shame.
A: horrible electrical line running job someone needs fired for that! B: too bad they couldn’t have disconnected the electrical
Grear fire works show
So many children’s’ toys front and back. Hope everyone got out ok.
Hope all was safe and no animals harmed
All the roaches(3,300) survived!!!
Whoops, someone forgot to shut the power off to the structure.
Toujours 1 probleme lorsque l'électricité n'est pas coupée😢
Why the AF was that still burning after 2 minutes of the truck arriving? Simple internal attack.... Absolutely shocking performance and I'm thankful I live in Europe where the fired departments actually try!
Dutch volunteer fire service channel is simply amazing. On the ball as soon as the truck stops
hello, pendant un incendie ou coupe le gaz et l''élecrticité
DId they not secure the power to the building?
AMATEURS
Oh Oh 🧐
Странно почему не отключают электричество? Понятно почему дом горит, замыкание происходит. В России есть жесткий приказ Мчс: Пока есть напряжение тушить запрещено!!
looks like an unfused circuit running on the outside of that unit ..
A wood-handled firefighting axe would've chopped the electrical supply wires at the meter and eliminated the fire expansion threat without shock danger to the firefighter. Just sayin. God bless the selfless firefighters, however.
You try it...
8 minutes to extinguish a small house fire. Did they want to let it burn out in a controlled manner or something?
Why didnt swear water on electricity? 🤔
What are the rockets flying out of the building about?
Какой бардак везде! Какой беспорядок! Электросети нет! Дикари.
My che
Ck
Was there no water? This house suffered 100% damage before any water went on!!!!
Why are you shooting water in the back?? You had a hose line in place from the front, push the fire out the back and put it out.
somebody needs to learn how to take the meter.
It’s Canada. Only the local hydro service can pull meters. I would want this one pulled at the pole anyways.
@@Firemedic76 got it. Agreed to taking the power at the pole to fully ensure safety. Here in the US, we can take the meter as we have a lot of underground power.
Pulling th electric meters would have solved the arcing
Not all departments are authorized to pull meters. It sucks but ......
Electric wire on the outside window omg
What caused it ?
COVID-19 😂
No 63..
Looked like they were going to whoop it’s ass in the beginning