I have a Citizen a limited edition version of the NY0085 and I would absolutely recommend it. It's so liberating knowing you have a watch you simply don't have to worry about. Super tough, reliable and not too expensive to replace if something catastrophic did go wrong. The inky black dial is completely gorgeous as well. I just love it!
I ended up getting the PADI Turtle over the SKX. Love, love, LOVE IT! Spot on accurate, and the finish is super gorgeous. It is pricier than the SKX, but I couldn't be happier with it!
I bought my first gateway watch in April of this year - the SKX007 - for a trip to Mexico. I took it everywhere, including snorkelling and surfing (or as I call it, falling into the ocean repeatedly). The watch is great, and looks beautiful. Love the SKX. I'm happy I got one and will keep forever! ...and it really sparked my watch obsession too!
One can also build an SKX from mod parts) CrystalTimes sells a case, sapphire crystals etc. Can pickup a dial, hands, NH36, crown, strap code jubilee, and end up with like a $500 version of the SKX for no good reason just to have one :) Or, get the Sharkey one for a third of the price and be happy it's an option :))
Hallo Jody, You did your homework my friend and what a great suggestions! As a huge Citizen fanboy, I always preferred the Citizen over the SKX. It has always been the better watch. The Orient is a great second on the list. Very attractive and great specs!
Honestly, I would recommend picking up an SKX even at highly inflated prices, they are still absolutely worth it. Yeah, you get the movement of an 80€ watch, but it looks more refined and timeless than any other diver in the sub-1000€ range. And mine hasn’t skipped a beat, even after dropping it on stone tiles several times and taking it for a swim twice a week.
I own 4 different color variations of the NY-0040/80 and only 1 SKX for good reason. It’s a much better watch IMO, with hand winding and diver extension factory bracelet. They also are more accurate, and have much better bezel action, and everything lines up. Just my 2 cents. Cheers!
I don't know what it is about the Orient watches but I love their look! That's the one I liked the most. I might have to get one of those in the future. Thx for the video.
Thanks for the video - very timely. Even hard core SKX fans have to admit it was getting long in the tooth and I think the many shortcomings of the SKX have to be acknowledged. IMHO I think you may have been a bit too dismissive about the new Seiko 5 line. It looks like Seiko are positioning it to be what most SKX fans are interested in: an entry--level sport watch with classic diver looks and an updated movement. It loses the screw-down crown and 200m certification but I think Seiko are recognizing that most people are "desk divers" anyway. The Prospex line is a step up for those who want a serious dive watch. As a marketing move I think it is smart to position the two lines in this way. I would go with the Seiko 5 over an homage watch any day if I were in the SKX segment. Again, thanks for the video.
Orient Triton is a very good alternative to the SKX. Besides that the Seagull Ocean Star is the best diver you can get for 300$ in my opinion. It look's a bit less sporty and more elegant, but it still looks awesome! Hi-beat 28800pbh hand windable, hacking movement with very good accuracity; sapphire crystal, 200m water resistance, solid end-links, thick clasp, nice lume, smooth screw down crown and a very good looking case back.
Hey Jodie, Sharkey/Heimdallr stated they are going to release a Bronze version of their SKX homage in October. Might want to wait to see that before you get one in for review.
Omair Arif do you have the link where the company announced it ? Do they have pics up of the Bronze (yes with capital B). Interestingly they also have a Grand Seiko homage, first one I’ve personally seen.
I think the Citizen is the real alternative for those who dond't mind quartz (eco-drive is an excellent movement). I have handled one and it's built very well, I just wish they released a 20mm lug diver. The Orient also looks very nice, haven't seen one in person though.
Great video - great topic. I'm partial to the Seiko Prospex SRPC44 and the Seiko Prospex SRPD23... Since I have never owned an SKX, I'm just not emotionally attached to them. I kind of really like the newer models. Thanks, Jody!!!
The Heimdallr SKX is back in stock and now available in Bronze :) The Stainless Steel models now seem to have ceramic inserts and for $10 you can upgrade to a solid endlink + milled clasp Jubilee. Even better value than before. EDIT: They now have another model, with a dial matching the SKX dial (but with their logo, of course). The SKX dial is offered in black, blue (different from the 009 dial), orange, green, and yellow.
Always been tempted by the Citizen. Personally I think the finish and hands are a little nicer (said the guy who owns a SKX007, a 7002-7000 and a 6309 7040)........
@ will SMITH-- I say this as a serious fan of Citizen: be prepared if you buy one @ Similar price-point(s) to your Seikos. I agree in that many of their offerings are more elegant, and eye-catching (especially with women, for some reason👍). My Citizens have just always gotten more compliments than my Seikos. That said, while I'm pretty easy on my watches (I think I subconsciously work @ protecting them lol!)-- I couldn't believe how fast their Crystals scratch (@ least with entry level pieces)... Also, Citizen's lume isn't bad, but its nowhere near as good as Seiko's-- just sayin
I traded my skx for a Citizen a couple of years ago. Very happy with it. The bezel action was better on the skx, but apart from that I would say the Citizen is a better watch in all aspects.
@@M--GT8223 I have never owned a Citizen but have quite the Seiko collection. I do like the finish on the Citizen divers. It reminds me of the finish on the Seiko 6105 diver. I may yet add one to my collection once my wife gets over the last couple of purchases.
@@jano.5292 They certainly are nicely finished Jan and the 8 o'clock crown is kind of cool. Esp for lefties but I suspect the original reason with more to do with policing and the military.
I agree with you. I bought recently a Citizen Blue Razor automatic and I'm impressed with its build quality. For the price the specs are nearly perfect! I don't have an SKX but my dad has a Seiko Chronograph ('90s model) and I have a Citizen Eco-Drive Chronograph (also a 1990s model). The Citizen is still working, after i changed 1 time its battery, whether the Seiko need a new battery every 2 years (apart the fact that its hour hand doesn't work any more). That's why I wanted to by another Citizen Eco-Drive, but when I saw the automatic Blue Razor I opted for this one and I'm glad I did.
I gave my 007 to my nephew a few months ago because he loved it and I really didn't wear it much anymore. After it was gone I missed it like crazy and bought a new one within a few weeks. I don't think they're really worth what they're selling for but I bought it, anyway. Orient is crushing seiko, nowadays.
i have the mini turtle, bought it recently, i for one love its looks, the rubber strap is great, its the perfect size and its getting more wrist time than my oris aquis and tudor black bay, its such a cool watch, the only thing is i wish there was a no date version i just dont like dates or day dates on watches but thats just my preferance
Seiko Turtle. It was my first Seiko. I got in after SKX was discontinued,and don't see what the hype is about. Especially when a Turtle is only "A Few Dollars More"
I recently took a 2003 Seiko 5 with the 7S26C that never even lasted me a year back then and upgraded it with a NH36A, it's now on my wrist and is working very good and is a fantastic looking watch on my wrist with all the hacking features of the new NH36A movement.
Thanks Jody! You are super articulate and never waste time with flotsam and jetsam topics in your vids. I enjoy your videos and your candor. Keep on keeping on!
Until last week, I ‘would’ have said my Citizen Promaster, but now........For a very affordable Bronze Diver......my Aquatico Sea Star Bronze with green dial and green ceramic bezel, leather strap.....is my (man on a budget aka married with children and grandkids) grail watch. I love it! The green is reminiscent of the British Racing Green of times past. It’s awesome.
I had both the Seiko SKX007 and the SKX013. Sold them both within a few months of purchasing. I thought they were both overrated. Crap movement, mineral glass and of course the crooked bezels. Last week I picked up the Orient Kamasu with the maroon dial and it has grown on me big time. What a wonderful watch! It's keeper in my collection.
Here we are, 18 months later and I have once again missed the boat. Wish I woulda grabbed the peach one back in the day. The day being about 18 months ago...
Excellent Jody. Yup I noticed the same with Creation, you could get them a year ago for £160. The Orient Kamasu I would highly recommend, picked one up recently and it gets a lot of wrist time. RIP SKX still might get a Pepsi 009 but not in a rush.
I'm so glad I never got on the SKX bandwagon. I bought one a year ago, was unimpressed and sold it. You're better off with the Ray II or save a little more for the turtle. I got the STO and it's a keeper.
@@brenmangood solid choice. People are going crazy with the prices on SARBs and now the SKX. Anyone paying more than $400 for the SARB is nuts and $220 is high for the SKX.
First, thank you for always remembering to show some love for Orient! Second, maybe you could do a video on why the SKX developed such a strong following? I think it would be a good way to send the SKX off.
Michael Best Summary, it came out in 1996, the time when even Rolex had hollow link bracelets and aluminum bezels. It was a re-issue of an iconic and popular designs from the 70’s, the 6309 and 7548. It was a professionally certified (and built/tested) dive watch. All this at a very affordable price, from one of the most reputable and recognizable watch brands. For many years, no other watch could even touch it for value. But......people forget.
@@d3xmeister Thank you for the reply. Yes, I was aware of (some of) that, but SKX has gained many followers even well after other companies began to produce quality budget divers. Perhaps all those people are keen on the SKX's history and significance, but I feel there might be more to the story than that.
Really wish I'd bought an SKX before Christmas when Creation Watches had them for about $176 USD on a sale. Ever since then I've watched them slowly raise the prices. I shifted focus to "better" watches by Seiko like the Samurai and the Turtle, the latter I'm wearing now as a current daily, and both can be found at realistic prices. I bought both watches second hand, pristine condition for around what a new SKX costs, and both keep excellent time (both are within 5 sec/day on the wrist and the Turtle usually is within -2). Anyway, great video with great alternatives! I've got my eye on the Mini Turtle and the Citizen Promaster. Please never stop making videos!
Following up on this comment, I was at my local watch dealer yesterday intent on drooling over the Solar Tunas and the Grand Seiko diver they usually have on display, and saw about 10 variations of the new Seiko 5 series in the case. Now, I live in Japan and this particular store has pricing in line with the Seiko website, so the models represented were anywhere from $300-400 USD. These are JDM models with kanji day wheels and "Made in Japan" on the dial. My guess is that we will be finding international versions of these all day long from other retailers for around half this price, so I'm actually not one of the ones complaining about the pricing of these new models given the specs. As to the watches themselves, while I didn't physically handle any of them to compare them to the SKX (which would not have mattered anyways as I haven't held an SKX, but do have one on order at the moment), I must say they were some brilliant looking pieces. SKX style casing, many different colors, including one that looked like the SKX009, and an orange dialed one that looks lackluster on the website, but in person has an incredible sunburst dial. I have to admit they were some incredibly nice watches, even considering the only 100 meters water resistance. While these won't replace the SKX for some, I think time will tell if this was a good move for Seiko. Someone will definitely buy these watches though, and I just might be one of them if street pricing at other retailers is more realistic.
Funny that the alternatives are better watches. Nothing to mourn here Plus don't forget you can still buy an aftermarket case, dial bezel and build one.
Great alternatives list, and I enjoyed the SKX being on it (my kind of humor...sorry, Yank spelling). Video idea: Discuss the new Alpinist rumors Seiya Japan posted. in their blog. I knew Seiko wouldn't completely give up on it. They surely know it's got a following, and that limited blue version just confirmed they know what is up. It HAS to come back. They sound extremely thrilling, especially the white and the black models. I don't know much about the 6R35 movement, so maybe you could enlighten us (history, specs, etc.). I was lucky enough to get in on the recent Hodinkee second batch release of the blue Alpinist at the US$600 price. I felt that was a fair value for a limited model that looked that good. A bit smaller than my 7.25" is used to lately, but it still looks great, and I love it. I truly get why it's such a cult classic. I'm not at all surprised on the pricing they list, and I literally told my friends a new one would probably have a newer movement and cost $700, partly due to Seiko's intentional move up the pricing market. I did not know how dead close I'd be. Here's the story - www.seiyajapan.com/blogs/news/the-alpinist-will-make-a-comeback-in-jan-2020
I think not enough stress is given to how plain and simply nice, the SKX is. Jingling horrific bracelet, but totally comfortable. Plain dull dial, completely legible, and just classy. Borng and feature free movement, which is mainly apocalypse proof and usually 10 times more accurate than Seiko commit to. The thing is just nice.
Jody, I can highly recommend the Sharkey SKX Marine Master. Cheaper than an SKX but with sapphire, hacking, hand-winding AND the beautiful marine master dial. BTW the lume is unbelievable, lasts all night. Don't think of Sharkey as shameless knockoffs, think if them as professional Seiko modders!
I think it's fair to say weather you like the Skx or not there is no denying its made a tremendous impact in the last twenty years or so especially for such a lower end piece, I wonder if Seiko will ever reproduce such a following with another model in the future.?
2 years ago when I bought my skx for $185 I told my dad that I wouldn’t be surprised if they discontinue it in a year or two. I bought it because I obviously loved the look of it and the price but also knowing this watch might go up in price if I didn’t buy it soon.
I have the Ray II and chose it over the SKX. I think it just looks better for more situatuons. The movement has been excellent, at +2sec per day. It would be nice to have sapphire glass though....
Fantastic list Jody. I was surprised you didn't mention the Crystaltimes build your own SKX. I personally love my Turtle...but I have a larger wrist. Thank you for another awesome video :)
Speaking of Long Island watch, The Islander is a continuation of the SKX that comes pre-modded (not just the 007…but also the 38mm variation) compatible with all SKX original and aftermarket parts. The only downside is a stamped clasp. $300. All the good mods included.
Steel Dive also makes a skx homage that is an almost exact copy of the SKX007. It has a seiko NH35 movement and It's available on AliExpress for a black friday price of 111.11 USD (MODEL STEELDIVE 1966)
Great vid Jody! after hearing the fate of the SKX I decided to create an all black version using my original SKX007 dial left over from a previous mod. I have a PVD SKX case with a DD Sapphire and black Yacht Master bezel. I'll be dropping in an NH36a and adding SKX hands with black trim. I think I'll call it my Le Morte d'skx build 😂😂😂
Heimdallr has a version with SKX dial and hands, on a jubilee. Listed under OD (I'm guessing original design lol). Sapphire, solid end links, takes six mods, ceramic bezel insert. Might pick one up.
Good video Jodie. I happen to be a fan of the Turtle which shares space next to my SKX. While I tend to prefer a larger watch, I also like the Baby Turtle design very much. I don't find the looks polarizing at all, but that's a matter of personal taste. Good call on the Citizen ProMaster too. Another good alternative and at an affordable price.
I got the citizen ny0040 (which are still available and probably the closest equivalent)because everyone had the skx but find myself now wanting to add one to my collection, I’m sure they’ll sill be available for quite some time.
I have a citizen, the one they issued to police rescue divers in 1977 and it has never missed a beat but I do have a skx as well, you got to, don't you?
That's what I wonder too! I recently bought a Citizen Blue Razor (NH8389-88L) automatic, not a proper diver's watch but with 100m WR it's totally fine for me. Keeps good time, maybe +/- 10s per day and the movement has proven its abilities because it's been in production for decades. It hand winds which is a plus in comparison to the SKX, but as the SKX it doesn't hack. Has a 120 click unidirectional bezel which has no wobble whatsoever. The build quality in general is perfect for the price and as many reviews say Citizen has a very good quality control , some say it's better than Seiko's. So I don't really get why Citizen watches don't get more appreciation, because they totally deserve it!
Seiko listens to there customers they will bring back the skx with a better movement in a couple years I would bet my paycheck on it! I dont understand some people on here they hate the seiko 5 and have to have the SKX cause it's a dive watch but then they won't even shower in it!! Lol Great video as always brother
Deep Blue make the NATO Diver, which is basically a 44mm SKX homage with a helium escape valve. You can find discount codes that make the price basically the same as an SKX.
I have an SKX009 and a Sharkey SKX homage, and I can say the Sharkey is pretty good, especially for the price. The Oyster bracelet is pretty good as well, though it does have a press clasp and hollow end links.. In fact, I'm wearing the Sharkey bracelet on the SKX009 right now. My only complaint with it is that the Lume isn't that great. Considering it has Sapphire and a NH35, which are two of the most popular mods for the SKX, you can think of it as buying a pre-modded SKX.
@@rafaeldiaz7636 About the same. The only difference in feel between the two is the bezel. The teeth around the bezel are more pronounced than the actual SKX, which makes it easier to grip. The turning of the bezel feels different from the SKX as well. It doesn't feel cheaper, just different. It take a bit less force to turn it as well. The only thing that I guess seems cheaper than the original is the caseback, as the original has the wave pattern in it and the text is engraved. On the homage everything on the caseback is just printed.
@@rafaeldiaz7636 The brand is owned/connected to San Martin, to give you a reference as to the quality of their watches. They deny the relation, but my paypal receipt had the url for WRWatches on it, which sells watches from both brands.
I don't have the original SKX to compare it to but I did notice the lume on my Sharkey SKX is brighter and lasts longer than the lume on my Seiko SNZG15 (which I always thought has really good lume) so it's not all bad. Mine does have a different issue though; not all the hour markers line up with the markers on the chapter ring. Not sure if it's an alignment issue or something more serious like a misprinted dial perhaps, have you noticed this on yours too? For the price I paid I don't mind it has some flaws though, and to be honest I only notice it if I take off my glasses and take a real close look. One of the benefits of aging eyes I guess, but I can imagine it being an annoyance to some. Mine is the white dial version by the way.
@@storm3016 Mine is the white dial as well, I've found the Lume starts out pretty bright but fades quickly compared to my other watches, including my Sharkey 6105 Turtle. Regarding the chapter ring, I haven't noticed it, but if that is the case, I guess that make it more authentic, considering the SKX is notorious for having misaligned chapter rings.
I never Got around to getting in SKX my thing is at that price I start looking at other watches that I like better in the inflated price I’m not going to pay that. However, there are many alternatives I’ll find something I have many times when I set out to buy an six are ready. I cannot get my hands on a red dial orient But I think I’m going to buy a proper Swiss Tissot That was my plan why I didn’t buy the zelos swordfish.
Thanks for showing the heimdallr watch I've been looking at getting into doing some watch mods and I think it's going to be the best one to use for the price and the upgrades it already comes with.
For those of us who like diver watches for the design and not to actually dive with them, a sapphire crystal is a must.....you don't know how many fights I've gotten into with rogue door knobs....lol..I'm definitely checking out the Orient Kamasu. It's one of the few watches Orient makes with sapphire crystal.
I've shattered sapphire against metal shelving at work. Never had that happen with a mineral crystal or acrylic. I don't get the gushing over sapphire. Instead of a scratch or a chip you get a shattered crystal that messes up the movement.
@@joelombardi4907 I hear you , me too; however, I would rather scratch or chip and mineral crystal than have another sapphire shatter messing up the entire movement. I am not sure what the best solution would be, perhaps something like gorilla glass?
@@patricko9170 Maybe look at thinner watches that have a harder time reaching out and hitting those doorknobs?...or a G shock analog with the raised protective bezel (the more days you wear a G shock the less probability you will scratch or break a crystal on your "nicer" watches.) Personally, I have a couple of watches with sapphire crystals. They have both survived a couple of bangs that would have damaged a mineral crystal. I understand there is a breaking point, but so far I havent found it.
The best SKX alternative is the DEEP BLUE NATO 300. Saphire crystal, NH36A movement, 300M Dept capacity, Gaz escape valve like the one on the ROLEX Sea Dweller. Same look as the SKX but with better improvements. The DEEP BLUE is a REAL diver watch.
I’m not surprised it’s being discontinued, especially since they recently launched the Seiko 5 “SKX-lite”, and I’m not complaining, because the SKX has been at lease $100 overpriced for a few years now (I can get the Turtle, with the objectively better moment and dial for the same price). Besides which, ever since Orient launched the Mako/Ray II I’ve considered it the obvious alternative. Spec for spec, it matches the SKX, only with a noticeably better movement (hacking, hand-winding at -15/+15 accuracy, much better than Seiko’s -20/+30), and can be had for up to half the price of the SKX and Turtle (holds its own against the turtle too). The Kamasu is a great alternative if you don’t mind the $100 premium and you want sapphire, but I still think the Mako/Ray II is the best value Diver available, which is what most who shop for the SKX are looking for.
Nicely done Jody, disappointi.g to see what they replaced the SKX with. Really? Also disappointing to see sellers jacking their prices, well at least they are not 5711 prices. See ya in the next one. 🍷👍
Hi Jodie,sorry to nip your ear again but are you aware of,had the ability to check the pros and cons of a"Nite" watch?Going by their info package,they look quite tidy.Would love to hear your expert evaluation on "Nite" watches,
I saw you at the Sydney Watchfest event over the weekend Jody. One of my life's disappointments will be that I didn't get the chance to greet you with a hale and hearty "Huloooooooo".
Right now there is a lot of panic buying, i myself as a small dealer have encountered a lot of people buying it just because it is getting discountinued, however we dont know how much stock suppliers have, i would suggest not waiting and getting a 009 as those are selling for a bit less. On amazon you can get them around 220usd and that is a good price for the SKX, if you are looking to buy one at under 200 i dont think it will happen. Good luck with the search and hope you end up finding one!
I have a Citizen a limited edition version of the NY0085 and I would absolutely recommend it. It's so liberating knowing you have a watch you simply don't have to worry about. Super tough, reliable and not too expensive to replace if something catastrophic did go wrong. The inky black dial is completely gorgeous as well. I just love it!
Glad I picked mine up when they were only $175 last January!
I ended up getting the PADI Turtle over the SKX. Love, love, LOVE IT! Spot on accurate, and the finish is super gorgeous. It is pricier than the SKX, but I couldn't be happier with it!
I bought my first gateway watch in April of this year - the SKX007 - for a trip to Mexico. I took it everywhere, including snorkelling and surfing (or as I call it, falling into the ocean repeatedly). The watch is great, and looks beautiful. Love the SKX. I'm happy I got one and will keep forever! ...and it really sparked my watch obsession too!
Looking back 300 was a steal lol
The orient ray 2 is one great option
I love mine!
Got a red Kamasu about a week ago and I love it. Highly recommend!
I think the SKX will be the perfect replacement for my SKX, thank you!
One can also build an SKX from mod parts) CrystalTimes sells a case, sapphire crystals etc. Can pickup a dial, hands, NH36, crown, strap code jubilee, and end up with like a $500 version of the SKX for no good reason just to have one :) Or, get the Sharkey one for a third of the price and be happy it's an option :))
Except it's not an skx..it's a wannabe
@@deanwaller8283 who gives a fuck
Dean Waller
Seriously,who gaf lol.
Hallo Jody,
You did your homework my friend and what a great suggestions! As a huge Citizen fanboy, I always preferred the Citizen over the SKX. It has always been the better watch. The Orient is a great second on the list. Very attractive and great specs!
Wow! A Seiko SKX homage that is everything we wanted in the SKX!
Honestly, I would recommend picking up an SKX even at highly inflated prices, they are still absolutely worth it. Yeah, you get the movement of an 80€ watch, but it looks more refined and timeless than any other diver in the sub-1000€ range. And mine hasn’t skipped a beat, even after dropping it on stone tiles several times and taking it for a swim twice a week.
I own 4 different color variations of the NY-0040/80 and only 1 SKX for good reason. It’s a much better watch IMO, with hand winding and diver extension factory bracelet. They also are more accurate, and have much better bezel action, and everything lines up. Just my 2 cents. Cheers!
I don't know what it is about the Orient watches but I love their look! That's the one I liked the most. I might have to get one of those in the future. Thx for the video.
Nothing to cheer me up like that “HEEEELLOOO and welcome”.
My five year old even says,"hello" when he hears the beebs, I might watch a little too much.
The correct answer is Citizen promaster. It really is a great watch.
Auto or eco?
@@P_Ezi I have both, but I like the auto better as a choice against the SKX.
Excellent alternative list, for a mid/high level price point the Orient Triton would be my choice.
I love my Kamasu. Can't wait for you to get it in hand and give it a proper review. I'd wager you'll be impressed.
Thanks for the video - very timely. Even hard core SKX fans have to admit it was getting long in the tooth and I think the many shortcomings of the SKX have to be acknowledged. IMHO I think you may have been a bit too dismissive about the new Seiko 5 line. It looks like Seiko are positioning it to be what most SKX fans are interested in: an entry--level sport watch with classic diver looks and an updated movement. It loses the screw-down crown and 200m certification but I think Seiko are recognizing that most people are "desk divers" anyway. The Prospex line is a step up for those who want a serious dive watch. As a marketing move I think it is smart to position the two lines in this way. I would go with the Seiko 5 over an homage watch any day if I were in the SKX segment. Again, thanks for the video.
Jodie - the funny thing is that an SKX is just a Seiko 5 with real, certified, 200m dive-watch credentials. None of the others have that.
wpherigo1 basically. 7s26 ftw?
Orient has several 200m watches.
the funny thing is despite of misaligned chapter ring, skx is the finest of seiko 5s you can only get
Orient Triton is a very good alternative to the SKX.
Besides that the Seagull Ocean Star is the best diver you can get for 300$ in my opinion.
It look's a bit less sporty and more elegant, but it still looks awesome!
Hi-beat 28800pbh hand windable, hacking movement with very good accuracity; sapphire crystal, 200m water resistance, solid end-links, thick clasp, nice lume, smooth screw down crown and a very good looking case back.
Hey Jodie, Sharkey/Heimdallr stated they are going to release a Bronze version of their SKX homage in October. Might want to wait to see that before you get one in for review.
You immediately caught his attention at the word "bronze". Especially with the capital B!
I'd dsign up for that.
If I could take that bronze case and throw the few good SKX bits into it I'd be all over it!
Omair Arif do you have the link where the company announced it ? Do they have pics up of the Bronze (yes with capital B). Interestingly they also have a Grand Seiko homage, first one I’ve personally seen.
@@jboayes no pictures yet, they mentioned it in comments on their Facebook page a couple times.
I think the Citizen is the real alternative for those who dond't mind quartz (eco-drive is an excellent movement). I have handled one and it's built very well, I just wish they released a 20mm lug diver. The Orient also looks very nice, haven't seen one in person though.
Great video - great topic. I'm partial to the Seiko
Prospex SRPC44 and the Seiko
Prospex SRPD23... Since I have never owned an SKX, I'm just not emotionally attached to them. I kind of really like the newer models. Thanks, Jody!!!
The Heimdallr SKX is back in stock and now available in Bronze :) The Stainless Steel models now seem to have ceramic inserts and for $10 you can upgrade to a solid endlink + milled clasp Jubilee. Even better value than before.
EDIT: They now have another model, with a dial matching the SKX dial (but with their logo, of course). The SKX dial is offered in black, blue (different from the 009 dial), orange, green, and yellow.
Always been tempted by the Citizen. Personally I think the finish and hands are a little nicer (said the guy who owns a SKX007, a 7002-7000 and a 6309 7040)........
@ will SMITH-- I say this as a serious fan of Citizen: be prepared if you buy one @ Similar price-point(s) to your Seikos. I agree in that many of their offerings are more elegant, and eye-catching (especially with women, for some reason👍).
My Citizens have just always gotten more compliments than my Seikos.
That said, while I'm pretty easy on my watches (I think I subconsciously work @ protecting them lol!)-- I couldn't believe how fast their Crystals scratch (@ least with entry level pieces)...
Also, Citizen's lume isn't bad, but its nowhere near as good as Seiko's-- just sayin
I traded my skx for a Citizen a couple of years ago. Very happy with it. The bezel action was better on the skx, but apart from that I would say the Citizen is a better watch in all aspects.
@@M--GT8223 I have never owned a Citizen but have quite the Seiko collection. I do like the finish on the Citizen divers. It reminds me of the finish on the Seiko 6105 diver. I may yet add one to my collection once my wife gets over the last couple of purchases.
@@jano.5292 They certainly are nicely finished Jan and the 8 o'clock crown is kind of cool. Esp for lefties but I suspect the original reason with more to do with policing and the military.
I agree with you. I bought recently a Citizen Blue Razor automatic and I'm impressed with its build quality. For the price the specs are nearly perfect! I don't have an SKX but my dad has a Seiko Chronograph ('90s model) and I have a Citizen Eco-Drive Chronograph (also a 1990s model). The Citizen is still working, after i changed 1 time its battery, whether the Seiko need a new battery every 2 years (apart the fact that its hour hand doesn't work any more). That's why I wanted to by another Citizen Eco-Drive, but when I saw the automatic Blue Razor I opted for this one and I'm glad I did.
I gave my 007 to my nephew a few months ago because he loved it and I really didn't wear it much anymore. After it was gone I missed it like crazy and bought a new one within a few weeks. I don't think they're really worth what they're selling for but I bought it, anyway. Orient is crushing seiko, nowadays.
i have the mini turtle, bought it recently, i for one love its looks, the rubber strap is great, its the perfect size and its getting more wrist time than my oris aquis and tudor black bay, its such a cool watch, the only thing is i wish there was a no date version i just dont like dates or day dates on watches but thats just my preferance
Seiko Turtle.
It was my first Seiko.
I got in after SKX was discontinued,and don't see what the hype is about.
Especially when a Turtle is only "A Few Dollars More"
I recently took a 2003 Seiko 5 with the 7S26C that never even lasted me a year back then and upgraded it with a NH36A, it's now on my wrist and is working very good and is a fantastic looking watch on my wrist with all the hacking features of the new NH36A movement.
The mineral glass Citizen uses breaks with the smallest on Knocks I'm afraid as I found out whilst swimming.
I picked up a Citizen Promaster and couldn’t be happier.
Thanks Jody! You are super articulate and never waste time with flotsam and jetsam topics in your vids. I enjoy your videos and your candor. Keep on keeping on!
Until last week, I ‘would’ have said my Citizen Promaster, but now........For a very affordable Bronze Diver......my Aquatico Sea Star Bronze with green dial and green ceramic bezel, leather strap.....is my (man on a budget aka married with children and grandkids) grail watch. I love it!
The green is reminiscent of the British Racing Green of times past. It’s awesome.
I had both the Seiko SKX007 and the SKX013. Sold them both within a few months of purchasing. I thought they were both overrated. Crap movement, mineral glass and of course the crooked bezels. Last week I picked up the Orient Kamasu with the maroon dial and it has grown on me big time. What a wonderful watch! It's keeper in my collection.
How about an update on this please Jody
Chapter ring misalignment. Sign of a true Seiko.
Here we are, 18 months later and I have once again missed the boat. Wish I woulda grabbed the peach one back in the day. The day being about 18 months ago...
Excellent Jody. Yup I noticed the same with Creation, you could get them a year ago for £160. The Orient Kamasu I would highly recommend, picked one up recently and it gets a lot of wrist time. RIP SKX still might get a Pepsi 009 but not in a rush.
I'm so glad I never got on the SKX bandwagon. I bought one a year ago, was unimpressed and sold it. You're better off with the Ray II or save a little more for the turtle. I got the STO and it's a keeper.
Matt Cowan I decided to get an Orient Mako 2 USA as my SKX alternative last Christmas.
@@brenmangood solid choice. People are going crazy with the prices on SARBs and now the SKX. Anyone paying more than $400 for the SARB is nuts and $220 is high for the SKX.
Same. I had one for a couple months. Sold it and moved up to the ray2. Just got a kano and love it. I think im a orient fan now.
Seiko owns Orient. Orient watches are good. SKX is Iconic.
Epson owns seiko and orient. The skx is a played out design with an outdated movement and horrible qc.
I've been very curious about the Kamasu, eagerly await seeing you review one!
First, thank you for always remembering to show some love for Orient!
Second, maybe you could do a video on why the SKX developed such a strong following? I think it would be a good way to send the SKX off.
Michael Best Summary, it came out in 1996, the time when even Rolex had hollow link bracelets and aluminum bezels. It was a re-issue of an iconic and popular designs from the 70’s, the 6309 and 7548. It was a professionally certified (and built/tested) dive watch. All this at a very affordable price, from one of the most reputable and recognizable watch brands. For many years, no other watch could even touch it for value. But......people forget.
@@d3xmeister Thank you for the reply. Yes, I was aware of (some of) that, but SKX has gained many followers even well after other companies began to produce quality budget divers. Perhaps all those people are keen on the SKX's history and significance, but I feel there might be more to the story than that.
Orient Kamasu all the way. I was about to pick a Ray 2 when I saw these, very interesting option.
same here just picked it up recently
Ray II has been awesome. I would have liked sapphire though.
@@P_Ezi just go with the kamasu
Really wish I'd bought an SKX before Christmas when Creation Watches had them for about $176 USD on a sale. Ever since then I've watched them slowly raise the prices. I shifted focus to "better" watches by Seiko like the Samurai and the Turtle, the latter I'm wearing now as a current daily, and both can be found at realistic prices. I bought both watches second hand, pristine condition for around what a new SKX costs, and both keep excellent time (both are within 5 sec/day on the wrist and the Turtle usually is within -2).
Anyway, great video with great alternatives! I've got my eye on the Mini Turtle and the Citizen Promaster. Please never stop making videos!
Following up on this comment, I was at my local watch dealer yesterday intent on drooling over the Solar Tunas and the Grand Seiko diver they usually have on display, and saw about 10 variations of the new Seiko 5 series in the case. Now, I live in Japan and this particular store has pricing in line with the Seiko website, so the models represented were anywhere from $300-400 USD. These are JDM models with kanji day wheels and "Made in Japan" on the dial. My guess is that we will be finding international versions of these all day long from other retailers for around half this price, so I'm actually not one of the ones complaining about the pricing of these new models given the specs. As to the watches themselves, while I didn't physically handle any of them to compare them to the SKX (which would not have mattered anyways as I haven't held an SKX, but do have one on order at the moment), I must say they were some brilliant looking pieces. SKX style casing, many different colors, including one that looked like the SKX009, and an orange dialed one that looks lackluster on the website, but in person has an incredible sunburst dial. I have to admit they were some incredibly nice watches, even considering the only 100 meters water resistance. While these won't replace the SKX for some, I think time will tell if this was a good move for Seiko. Someone will definitely buy these watches though, and I just might be one of them if street pricing at other retailers is more realistic.
Funny that the alternatives are better watches. Nothing to mourn here
Plus don't forget you can still buy an aftermarket case, dial bezel and build one.
Great alternatives list, and I enjoyed the SKX being on it (my kind of humor...sorry, Yank spelling). Video idea: Discuss the new Alpinist rumors Seiya Japan posted. in their blog. I knew Seiko wouldn't completely give up on it. They surely know it's got a following, and that limited blue version just confirmed they know what is up. It HAS to come back. They sound extremely thrilling, especially the white and the black models. I don't know much about the 6R35 movement, so maybe you could enlighten us (history, specs, etc.). I was lucky enough to get in on the recent Hodinkee second batch release of the blue Alpinist at the US$600 price. I felt that was a fair value for a limited model that looked that good. A bit smaller than my 7.25" is used to lately, but it still looks great, and I love it. I truly get why it's such a cult classic. I'm not at all surprised on the pricing they list, and I literally told my friends a new one would probably have a newer movement and cost $700, partly due to Seiko's intentional move up the pricing market. I did not know how dead close I'd be. Here's the story - www.seiyajapan.com/blogs/news/the-alpinist-will-make-a-comeback-in-jan-2020
Hi Jodie. I'm very tempted to get a Sharky. They look awesome and Seiko look alike. Thank you for the tip.
I think not enough stress is given to how plain and simply nice, the SKX is. Jingling horrific bracelet, but totally comfortable. Plain dull dial, completely legible, and just classy. Borng and feature free movement, which is mainly apocalypse proof and usually 10 times more accurate than Seiko commit to.
The thing is just nice.
Reasonably priced Orient with sapphire, hand winding, and hacking. Wonders will never cease. I would like a fish on my watch dial, if I was 12.
i guess the orient kamasu will increase in price sooner
@@relosapulso I think it's ugly, Like very ugly.
I'm glad I bought my 007 and 011 when I did. With any luck they'll go up in value in the coming years. Great vid as always mate.
I have the Orient Ray II and the Kamasu, both are excellent watches.
Jody, I can highly recommend the Sharkey SKX Marine Master. Cheaper than an SKX but with sapphire, hacking, hand-winding AND the beautiful marine master dial. BTW the lume is unbelievable, lasts all night. Don't think of Sharkey as shameless knockoffs, think if them as professional Seiko modders!
I've been on the fence about ordering one of those!
Would you add the Islander to the list if you re-did it today?
I was thinking the same thing! Islander is a great alternative!
I think it's fair to say weather you like the Skx or not there is no denying its made a tremendous impact in the last twenty years or so especially for such a lower end piece, I wonder if Seiko will ever reproduce such a following with another model in the future.?
The Mini Turtle is such a great watch. For a small wrist (
2 years ago when I bought my skx for $185 I told my dad that I wouldn’t be surprised if they discontinue it in a year or two. I bought it because I obviously loved the look of it and the price but also knowing this watch might go up in price if I didn’t buy it soon.
Any reason why no one is suggest the Ray 2 anymore instead of the SKX? I really love that watch and was thinking of getting it.
I have the Ray II and chose it over the SKX. I think it just looks better for more situatuons. The movement has been excellent, at +2sec per day. It would be nice to have sapphire glass though....
Really happy you mentioned the citizen! :)
Fantastic list Jody. I was surprised you didn't mention the Crystaltimes build your own SKX. I personally love my Turtle...but I have a larger wrist. Thank you for another awesome video :)
Jody, I love you dearly but I simply can't believe you didn't include The Islander. I own two and I couldn't be happier with them.
Speaking of Long Island watch, The Islander is a continuation of the SKX that comes pre-modded (not just the 007…but also the 38mm variation) compatible with all SKX original and aftermarket parts. The only downside is a stamped clasp. $300. All the good mods included.
Steel Dive also makes a skx homage that is an almost exact copy of the SKX007. It has a seiko NH35 movement and It's available on AliExpress for a black friday price of 111.11 USD (MODEL STEELDIVE 1966)
Great vid Jody! after hearing the fate of the SKX I decided to create an all black version using my original SKX007 dial left over from a previous mod. I have a PVD SKX case with a DD Sapphire and black Yacht Master bezel. I'll be dropping in an NH36a and adding SKX hands with black trim. I think I'll call it my Le Morte d'skx build 😂😂😂
Heimdallr has a version with SKX dial and hands, on a jubilee. Listed under OD (I'm guessing original design lol). Sapphire, solid end links, takes six mods, ceramic bezel insert. Might pick one up.
Good video Jodie. I happen to be a fan of the Turtle which shares space next to my SKX. While I tend to prefer a larger watch, I also like the Baby Turtle design very much. I don't find the looks polarizing at all, but that's a matter of personal taste. Good call on the Citizen ProMaster too. Another good alternative and at an affordable price.
I got the citizen ny0040 (which are still available and probably the closest equivalent)because everyone had the skx but find myself now wanting to add one to my collection, I’m sure they’ll sill be available for quite some time.
I have a citizen, the one they issued to police rescue divers in 1977 and it has never missed a beat but I do have a skx as well, you got to, don't you?
Why don't Citizen get more love? They've made some incredible watches. Perhaps a bit too quartz heavy these days? Great vid cheers Jody!
That's what I wonder too! I recently bought a Citizen Blue Razor (NH8389-88L) automatic, not a proper diver's watch but with 100m WR it's totally fine for me. Keeps good time, maybe +/- 10s per day and the movement has proven its abilities because it's been in production for decades. It hand winds which is a plus in comparison to the SKX, but as the SKX it doesn't hack. Has a 120 click unidirectional bezel which has no wobble whatsoever. The build quality in general is perfect for the price and as many reviews say Citizen has a very good quality control , some say it's better than Seiko's. So I don't really get why Citizen watches don't get more appreciation, because they totally deserve it!
What about Orient Triton ?? Perfect alternative , similar look and style.
Another great video my man! Love your picks! On other news the Alphanist is coming back in 2020!
Seiko listens to there customers they will bring back the skx with a better movement in a couple years I would bet my paycheck on it! I dont understand some people on here they hate the seiko 5 and have to have the SKX cause it's a dive watch but then they won't even shower in it!! Lol Great video as always brother
I've modded the Sharkeys with SKX parts a few times, a much more affordable base than the Crystal Times cases considering you get a complete watch.
Deep Blue make the NATO Diver, which is basically a 44mm SKX homage with a helium escape valve. You can find discount codes that make the price basically the same as an SKX.
I have an SKX009 and a Sharkey SKX homage, and I can say the Sharkey is pretty good, especially for the price. The Oyster bracelet is pretty good as well, though it does have a press clasp and hollow end links.. In fact, I'm wearing the Sharkey bracelet on the SKX009 right now. My only complaint with it is that the Lume isn't that great. Considering it has Sapphire and a NH35, which are two of the most popular mods for the SKX, you can think of it as buying a pre-modded SKX.
Omair Arif does the sharkey feel cheaper quality or are they about the same?
@@rafaeldiaz7636 About the same. The only difference in feel between the two is the bezel. The teeth around the bezel are more pronounced than the actual SKX, which makes it easier to grip. The turning of the bezel feels different from the SKX as well. It doesn't feel cheaper, just different. It take a bit less force to turn it as well.
The only thing that I guess seems cheaper than the original is the caseback, as the original has the wave pattern in it and the text is engraved. On the homage everything on the caseback is just printed.
@@rafaeldiaz7636 The brand is owned/connected to San Martin, to give you a reference as to the quality of their watches.
They deny the relation, but my paypal receipt had the url for WRWatches on it, which sells watches from both brands.
I don't have the original SKX to compare it to but I did notice the lume on my Sharkey SKX is brighter and lasts longer than the lume on my Seiko SNZG15 (which I always thought has really good lume) so it's not all bad. Mine does have a different issue though; not all the hour markers line up with the markers on the chapter ring. Not sure if it's an alignment issue or something more serious like a misprinted dial perhaps, have you noticed this on yours too? For the price I paid I don't mind it has some flaws though, and to be honest I only notice it if I take off my glasses and take a real close look. One of the benefits of aging eyes I guess, but I can imagine it being an annoyance to some. Mine is the white dial version by the way.
@@storm3016 Mine is the white dial as well, I've found the Lume starts out pretty bright but fades quickly compared to my other watches, including my Sharkey 6105 Turtle.
Regarding the chapter ring, I haven't noticed it, but if that is the case, I guess that make it more authentic, considering the SKX is notorious for having misaligned chapter rings.
With how regularly the Samurai and Turtle go below retail I'm going to get one of those.
I was trying to blow off the fly off my screen
I never Got around to getting in SKX my thing is at that price I start looking at other watches that I like better in the inflated price I’m not going to pay that. However, there are many alternatives I’ll find something I have many times when I set out to buy an six are ready. I cannot get my hands on a red dial orient But I think I’m going to buy a proper Swiss Tissot That was my plan why I didn’t buy the zelos swordfish.
Glad to see you are up to date in the jinngly janngly TH-cam watch slang... PMD!!
Thanks for showing the heimdallr watch I've been looking at getting into doing some watch mods and I think it's going to be the best one to use for the price and the upgrades it already comes with.
Great Video, Jody. Pound for Pound the Orient looks like a winner, but we're spoilt for choice sub 400 so there's something for everyone..
That heimdallr is gorgeous
Im still struggling to find a 38mm diver, alternative of the skx013 because my 6 inch wrist is small :(
For those of us who like diver watches for the design and not to actually dive with them, a sapphire crystal is a must.....you don't know how many fights I've gotten into with rogue door knobs....lol..I'm definitely checking out the Orient Kamasu. It's one of the few watches Orient makes with sapphire crystal.
I've shattered sapphire against metal shelving at work. Never had that happen with a mineral crystal or acrylic. I don't get the gushing over sapphire. Instead of a scratch or a chip you get a shattered crystal that messes up the movement.
@@patricko9170 I've had very bad luck with mineral crystal. All I have to do is breathe on it and it scratches.
@@joelombardi4907 I hear you , me too; however, I would rather scratch or chip and mineral crystal than have another sapphire shatter messing up the entire movement. I am not sure what the best solution would be, perhaps something like gorilla glass?
@@patricko9170 Maybe look at thinner watches that have a harder time reaching out and hitting those doorknobs?...or a G shock analog with the raised protective bezel (the more days you wear a G shock the less probability you will scratch or break a crystal on your "nicer" watches.)
Personally, I have a couple of watches with sapphire crystals. They have both survived a couple of bangs that would have damaged a mineral crystal. I understand there is a breaking point, but so far I havent found it.
The best SKX alternative is the DEEP BLUE NATO 300. Saphire crystal, NH36A movement, 300M Dept capacity, Gaz escape valve like the one on the ROLEX Sea Dweller. Same look as the SKX but with better improvements. The DEEP BLUE is a REAL diver watch.
What was left of the horse is now a hole in the ground. Great video!
Any recommendations for similar style watches but 38mm size?
Good one Jody ! Love my 009 Pepsi & at 300 US my eye goes to the Samarai S.T.O.
Great video Jody, you should look at a great diver by casio, 200m under 50.00 US dollars, the casio MDV106-1A.
Ah, yes...the "Duro". Such an iconic Casio diver. The only problem I have with it is that the case size is a bit too large for my liking.
@@ryan_bitzer Too big for me too. Also, it's a quartz watch, which I personally love, but many don't, and it makes it not a fair SKX replacement.
Blimey the Heimdaller, a near enough identical watch to the long promised Hamtun Kraken. Glad I didn’t order one. Thanks mate.
Great video, my first choice would be Deep Blue Watches
I'm curious what 2 items in your Amazon shopping cart lol!
...just two more watches??
@@mr22guy for sure lol :-)
Mate, a history book, and an air intake for an Acura TSX, neither of which I will buy! 😂
Just One More Watch
Now I feel slightly disappointed lol!
@@JustOneMoreWatch Just one more book, eh?
Nobody is going to talk how the audio isnt synced to the video in the later part of the video? Loved the list tho!💖
My brand new Zelos Swordfish just took the place of any SKX I would have never bought. Sorry Seiko.
Cool Crush Ice Killa exactly, it’s a Zelos....not Just Another Seiko!
Excellent choice!
Aquatico Sea Star in Bronze with the green dial......I know, Bronze is a trend, but with a leather strap it is truly gorgeous and wears light.
But Jody, all those watches are perfect! Their chapter rings are all aligned, you can't mod any of them! 😁😁😁
I’m not surprised it’s being discontinued, especially since they recently launched the Seiko 5 “SKX-lite”, and I’m not complaining, because the SKX has been at lease $100 overpriced for a few years now (I can get the Turtle, with the objectively better moment and dial for the same price).
Besides which, ever since Orient launched the Mako/Ray II I’ve considered it the obvious alternative. Spec for spec, it matches the SKX, only with a noticeably better movement (hacking, hand-winding at -15/+15 accuracy, much better than Seiko’s -20/+30), and can be had for up to half the price of the SKX and Turtle (holds its own against the turtle too). The Kamasu is a great alternative if you don’t mind the $100 premium and you want sapphire, but I still think the Mako/Ray II is the best value Diver available, which is what most who shop for the SKX are looking for.
Hello! Could you try to do a review on the Manufaktur Waldhoff Ultramatic? Thank you!
Thank for reviews I don’t have skx yet I now won’t be hitting the panic button. Like the citizen but kinda spoiled by Y front pants at 12 o’clock 😆
Nicely done Jody, disappointi.g to see what they replaced the SKX with. Really? Also disappointing to see sellers jacking their prices, well at least they are not 5711 prices. See ya in the next one. 🍷👍
Hi Jodie,sorry to nip your ear again but are you aware of,had the ability to check the pros and cons of a"Nite" watch?Going by their info package,they look quite tidy.Would love to hear your expert evaluation on "Nite" watches,
I saw you at the Sydney Watchfest event over the weekend Jody. One of my life's disappointments will be that I didn't get the chance to greet you with a hale and hearty "Huloooooooo".
Mate! Next time, make it happen! It was a good day wasn't it?
Does anyone think the prices are going to lower when panic buying ends? Empty pocket college student here really want one at regular price
Right now there is a lot of panic buying, i myself as a small dealer have encountered a lot of people buying it just because it is getting discountinued, however we dont know how much stock suppliers have, i would suggest not waiting and getting a 009 as those are selling for a bit less. On amazon you can get them around 220usd and that is a good price for the SKX, if you are looking to buy one at under 200 i dont think it will happen. Good luck with the search and hope you end up finding one!
Watching this 1 year later, and prices on Amazon are freaking bonkers!