Not MY Hellboy: Comics vs Movies
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- The Hellboy movies are beloved and with good reason, but they're a far cry from the source material. Join us as we take a look at the major differences between the films and comics and WHY that matters.
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I feel like Hellboy and BPRD would work best as a show. Little adventures through mythology and lovecraftian horror, while building up the charecters slowly through each episode
The Hellboy in Injustice 2 is the best on screen version of the character so far.
DarthWall275 there are great animated movies
One of the best. The voice actor got his mannerisms and dry wit. Ron Pearlman and his voice work for the animated shorts were great. Wish somebody paid him to do audio comics.
David Harbour would have been great if somebody actually gave him a script.
Allow me to enlighten you from the future. The new hellboy takes more from the comics but it really fell flat.
@@Rogue_Rando It takes 10 story lines puts them out of order and still gets things wrong.
@@Rogue_RandoThere's nothing comic accurate about that movie
Why does everyone forget about the 2 animated films. They are great and feel like the comics. Plus like half the cast is the same including Ron Pearlman, John Hurt, Selma Blair and Doug Jones.
and they got his feet right.
@@Zeno4XX Actually in the movie there's a shot where he's not wearing boots and you can see his hooves and skinny legs
@@heartbust4624 huh must have missed that, thanks for the heads up.
@@Zeno4XX Trust me it's a blink and you'll miss it situation lol
I think it's weird you don't mention his relationship with Liz. In the comics, Liz is like a little sister. He met her when she was a scared little girl who just murdered her family. Gave her a lollipop. Also, Abe! Abe is a badass in the comics.
I'm saving Hellboys supporting cast for a BPRD video. This one was just something short for folks who haven't read the comics. If you haven't watched it yet, I did a pretty deep dive into the main Hellboy series in a video called "Hellboy: Good Stories End." You sound up to date with the series so I think you would enjoy it.
Right?
@Tommaso Urbisci Yeah and hes in the movie somehow... So damn weird....
Murder requires intention to kill. Liz didn't intend to kill her family.
@@elwyn5150 Yeah, she was a Lil'Nuke who couldn't control her powers. So it's not entirely her fault.
Every comic movie has this issue, every marvel movie is so far from the comics but no one complains
A5hTriX Finally so one sees it.
But they make it make sense cause they said it’s just it’s own universe like every Spider-Man movie
All except Dredd.
They aren't that far off. They're accurate enough and only take "big" liberties when dealing with small name characters. Ironically enough some of them didn't get big until the movies
The thing is is that it's a different universe.
Well they tried giving Hellboy to someone else, it didn't work.
You're right. I loved the first Hellboy movie (Golden Army wasn't as good, but I still liked it), but after reading the comics and seeing how shitty the films are as adaptations, I kinda lost respect for them even though I can see and appreciate the craftsmanship on display.
@RatchetandSly the effects are very good the only time that they looked bad they looked horrible when hellboy found out John was taking liz for coffee and crunched the red bull can it is 100% u finished its so bad
3:06 after watching the new trailer the executives probably pitched it as "its like deadpool! Only with witches and giants."
The new one is looking even more comedic and light-hearted than Del Toro's version :/
Fuck that abortion of a trailer.
Not true. Not the film. You haven’t seen it.
Every movie now has some campy pop song pumping through it, that's the marketing department trying to do what everyone is doing. It's not new, and the Hellboy trailer shouldn't be chastised for it when 90% of trailers for the past 6 years have done it and nobody says shit.
Also, inb4 "it's still shit tho" that master argument doesn't fly anymore.
@@streetrat48 "everything is shit so you cant say something is shit"
@@streetrat48 Well that campy pop song was a horrid decision if the movie is to be more faithful to the comics. The trailer's light hearted comedic tone sets a certain expectation for the audience who aren't familiar with the franchise.
The new Hellboy looks like it's going to be as close to the comics as the live action Deathnote was to the Manga.
Spot on!
So... What do you think of that film?
It's like they took everything we wanted about being faithful to the comic, and said "...nah"
Hellboy is more marginal stuff compared to Marvel and DC. It doesn't sell as many tickets, so if you want a Hellboy movie, prepare for a movie that tries it's best to appeal to a wider audience. In essence; crap.
"It's like they took everything we wanted about being faithful to the comic, and said "...nah"
Marvel Cinematic Universe movies in a nutshell.
@@n0u4n True, But When you think about it.... That logic is very flawed. You can argue that A serious tone trailer, with serious music would bring even more people in. If it's more like a horror movie, It'll make the movie come off more like an alternate super hero movie, rather than just ANOTHER comic book movie with a no name hero. In no way does a campy Hellboy movie sound interesting to anyone. ESPECIALLY after Del Toros Hellboy series. Everyone is on the dense with this movie. The better attempt would be to look different from Toros vision. That trailer makes the movie look like a sequel to his series, but just shittier.
@@haroldhernandez1560 Yeah. Tell that to the marketing department.
@@n0u4n I doubt those people are even looking through social media.... David Harbour is in Thailand I assume... And probably still is.... Avoiding the backlash.
Who here after the new trailer dropped?
I'm very disappointed with the new trailer. Looks terrible. Wanted something more in line with the comics tone. After cringing through the trailer I came back to watch AlphaRookie's video to cheer me up.
@@cabeskywalker4346 literally in a group on fb of hellboy and they posted if I don't like the reboot say nothing. Nice to hear some one saying the same as i thought.
@@t.l3846 Sorry to hear that. I don't hate on people for liking the first two Hellboy movies, everyone is entitled to an opinion and that includes you.
Me...it's sad . Looks like a parody without Carmen Electra. And the makeup...pure crap. Im sorry for David Harbour , he is a great actor.
It looked more like a comedy.
Seeing the comic Hellboy and how skinny he is with slumped shoulders and all is odd. Never saw the comics but loved the 1st movie. It's because Pearlman did such an awesome job and the makeup/effects were great. Larger than life character.
Honestly, I'd rather have a director's vision, like Del Toro's. If I want Mignola's vision, I'll just, you know.... read the comics. Del Toro's movies may not be comic accurate, but they are solid films. He did something of his own with the character, and I like that a lot. It feels like the new movie is gonna be closer to the comics, but it also feels like the quality is going to be worse in general. To be fair, it is just the trailer, and maybe the final product will be better.
too bad it wont be...
william calhoun exactly we want fresh stories, they want the same old story just in different media, so uncreative
My worry is that with Mignola at the helm we get a product like Stephen King’s The Stand. Instead of Hellboy on the screen in the latex..err flesh.
Yeha, Del Toro's movies made BPRD into a carbon copy of MIB, In the comics they are equal parts, animal control, inter-pol, and a University.
I think most people are mad about the actor change. He was perfect for hellboy.
Pearlman: “It’s like the comics, but streamlined”
Harbour: “it’s like the comics, but worse”
Don’t blame Harbour for that, blame the people who made the film
The movies not even out yet.
The trailer does not represent the movie.
Is the movie out yet???
@@ColdNorth0628 now a days it does
The hell boy we see in the movies is more in line with the hell boy series set in the 1950’s, in that series hell boy is a rookie who acts more like a teenager, because he kind of was in the 50’s and they’re great stories.
I'd be happy with a Hellboy reboot *IF* Del Toro actually got to finish his trilogy. After Ron Pearlman David Harbour is the best person I could think of to play Hellboy but Pearlmans characters story wasn't over yet.
jakeyboy851 did you forget the part where the Angel of death told liz Hellboy would bring about the apocalypse if he saved his life?
the movies wrapped up nicely plus the whole liz hellboy romance is kinda creepy if you know how they are in the comics. im glad they are done with that series
jakeyboy851 my biggest problem is that hell boy met Liz when she was like 10 and he was at least in his 30s so it made it real weird. Also hellboys personality is a bit off since he comes off like a teenager when he had been around since ww2 and the movies take place in the early 2000s so he should be a lot more mature. Also don’t like the whole men in black everything is a secret unlike the comics.
That's so closed minded though? Why not give something a chance?
@@neoraven223 but she wasn't in the movie Lol
you basically thought that way yourself and convinced yourself it was weird cause prolly cause you are weird and think about that stuff
nonetheless that exactly why it was changed cause the dynamic of a child being centered around demons and all this paranormal crap would've been harder to convince non Hellboy audiences.
once again just because someone read the comics doesn't mean it has to adapt to the comics.
its a great way to GET people to READ the comics because if the movie appeals to them in such a matter they can see it for themselves how different and awesome the source material itself is.
ever heard of the statement "Read the book cause its better"?
Most cases it is and quite true.. my best example is berserk.
Nothing has been properly adapted and may never will but we gotta accept that they have to find some middle ground to push people to understand the complex dark fucked up story that it is without just pushing it out and getting massively polarized by being as fucked up as it is.
Marketing was done wrong for this new Hellboy trailer absolutely and the music choice is dreadful.
hopefully they fix this and stick to the creators vision but so far even then this lower budget movie still comes off as another GB 2016 or Suicide Squad.
pray that im wrong
If you hate these movies then you really shouldn't watch the remake trailer...
He never said he hated them though
He said he like them
liked them huh...
It’s just a trailer though. Doesn’t necessarily reflect the actual film.
Pokémon Hero I think he means if we the audience hated these movies for the listed reasons in the video. Not the video creator
Thank you for the fresh perspective . As an X-Men comic book fan, I get what you mean (although I wish I was half as gracious as you are when the first X-Men movie came out). Sadly, I don't think you will get a more faithful adaptation from the rebooted Hellboy despite the apparent nod from Mike Mignola. Just to add though, Ron Perlman and Gillermo del Toro have been lobbying for Hellboy 3 since the release of the Golden Army. But the plot was entirely GDT' s and even more deviated from the comic book. I saw a recent Perlman interview and he seemed unenthusiastic about the new Hellboy.
Concerning Hellboy 2019 Remake Trailer
That Hellboy 2019 movie was not a Hellboy movie...
Make it known that the fans hate this D Rate Monster Mash Disaster
It does fucking suck... It looks like D Rate trash and not the Game of Thrones meets ACDC meets Hellboy I was expecting...
The trailer was sickening.....
I Hated it with all my emotions....
I burned heavily to what I witnessed....
We all love a funny dance tune once in awhile, but when the Art Direction is supposed to be a specific way...it was supposed to be a mix of recent Tv shows and movies these past years.... Evil Dead, Drag Me To Hell, Game of Thrones, Kong Skull Island, Hellboy 1, John Wick instead we get this travesty. A total ignoramus of what Hellboy was supposed to achieve on film..... It was supposed to be Game of Thrones meets ACDC meets Hellboy... Something that Guillermo DelToro could of handled correctly. Possible Hellboy 2 Sequel (Plague of Frogs, Hell On Earth, Hellboy in Hell) Only a story that Guillermo DelToro team can bring to life... Ron Perlman can be cast as Astaroth.... Doug Jones and Selma Blair must return as Abe Sapien and Liz Sherman.... Hellboy must smoke cigarette and drink beer.... Introduce secondary characters Ashley Strode, Roger, Johann...
A Real Destruction of Art was witnessed...
#notmyhellboy
LionsGate has less than 4 months before release they need to go back and reshoot this movie to make it look like John Wick meets Hellboy, meets Game of Thrones meets ACDC....I have seen better Art Direction in films like Evil Dead, Shape of Water, Kong Skull Island, John Wick, and Hellboy 1....This Hellboy 2019 trailer is a Damn Disgrace to the artistic source material
Honestly if they are good on a sequel all they have to do is bring back Doug Jones, Selma Blair, Ron Perlman... and have them play Abe Sapien, Liz Sherman, and Astaroth....
Another secondary characters they can bring forth is Roger, Johann, and Ted Howard's and Ashely Strode....
Roger and Johann can be played by Nathan Jones and Seth MacFarlane...
Ted Howard's can be played by either Tom Hardy or Ed Skrein... I highly suggest Ed since his role as Ben Daimio was taken away...
Ashely Strode can be played by Saoirse Ronan, or one of the Fanning's sisters
How can he be enthusiastic? He loves playing that character and working to bring the third movie to the big screen, and the audience really like the movies. It feels like a baby that has been ripped straight out of your hands.
Thanks for saying all this man. I cannot understand people trying to DESTROY something before it gets off the ground. Like, just watch or don’t...that’s your only role in the production. As well, this new R rated approach seems WAY more natural and indicative to me.
Doomfruit
See the trailer?
Seems a lot of people were right.
It's like Hellblazer and the Constantine movie.
Exactly. Never understood why some folks hated the Constantine movie but once I read the comics I realized they just didn't like that it wasn't closer to the comics.
It's a really good Flick but terrible when you read tge Comics
Shawn Zamir FFXV I never understood why they got Keanu Reeves of all people to play someone like John Constantine.
Jorge Trevino
Guess they had a different Vision of the Character or at least wanted to Adapt it differently. I still do Love the Movie, it's great, it's just not Comic accurate. Maybe that's why tge Movie's titled Constantine and not Hellblazer
Galaxy It’s not vision I had a problem with in that movie, it was Keanu trying act like a normal human being.
Not that many people know or talk about Hellboy on TH-cam, most videos are just on DC Or Marvel. It’s refreshing to hear someone talk about one of my favorite characters and his universe
This video didn't age well.
The more I think about it, the Del Toro movies feel more like Devil May Cry movies disguised as Hellboy movies
hellboy and abe's bonding moments are some of the best things this movies have
You are exactly correct. It's why I didn't waste my time with the movies and stuck with the comics.
Just because it's closer to the comic book obviously doesn't mean it will be any good. I agree we should not pass such harsh judgment until we see the movie, but what we saw in the trailer wasn't all that great. I guess we cannot say much off a trailer anyway.
Also NEVER believe what a trailer shows and just wait for the movie or wait for a good trailer that you know is more accurate.
Shit, when I heard that there was a new Hellboy, I was f*cking ecstatic. And I fangirled even more when I found out that Hellboy was going to be played by Harbour. Sure there seems to be a great deal of CGI, in reference to the monsters and stuff. But what do you people expect. Making a live action fluid-like moving 9ft gargoyle monster, and a damn tattered demon wyvern is kinda hard to make.
My personal wish be an adaptation of The Bones of Giants.
Not the best book. I've read all the novels and short stories. I prefer those to the comics. Actually, many of the comic storylines would have translated perfectly. Hollywood is a bunch of fu@kt@rd$. They find something great and say lets make this a movie because its so popular. Then they change everything about the source material that made it so great to begin with.
I didn't get into Hellboy until after these movies came out because I looked at them and said, "That looks like it would make a good line of Happy Meal toys." From a glance, it reminded me of something in the veins of Wild Wild West. Started up the comics a year ago and love 'em. Way cooler.
Now that we've seen this new Hellpool trailer, judging from the reactions thus far, I'm afraid this movie has already set its self up for a flop. Maybe the trailer is misleading, maybe the choice of music used made it far worse. Either way I was hoping for an orginal take like OP explained. Oh well.
One thing that ALWAYS annoyed me with cinema is how they think, just because something lives for 10.000 years, it has to be a teenager for AT LEAST 100 years.
If you have lived 100 years, you had 16 years to grow up, maybe SOME years more because your society is slower and your rebellion phase is a little longer, but you had PLENTY of time to get beaten up for your rushy-pushy side, you had time to get punshed in the face for being sassy to elders and you had time to experience loss and develop restraint.
If you are 100 years old, you have lived MORE THAN THE ENTIRE LIFESPAN OF A NORMAL HUMAN. That means, even if you don't have the ATTITUDE of an old man who is humbled by the loss of half of his abillities, you still had the time to accumulate the same WISDOM. You are not foolish anymore. You have made mistakes. Plenty of them.
Now many of those things vary by culture. And elf might have had more training in diverse things, but less experience so, because he was never allowed to leave his village. A different species, like demons, might have a lot more experience in fighting than a normal human, but hasn't accumulated any wealth in knowledge or material posessions due to the nature of hell. AND SO ON. But that doesn't mean they act like they have seen emotions for the first time ever...
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Because there is public perception of character, i.e. if it's ain't Batman, or Punisher he *MUST* be telling jokes every other minute
And there is actual comics version.
Good luck with adapting Superman or Batman the way Siegel&Shuster or Kane&Finger meant them to be HAHAHAHAHA
Yes, just because something was originally one way doesn't mean that is their best design. Most characters and stories have changed. I love the animated teen titans show more than any of the Titans comics.
i mean what's the point to adapt comic characters if movie makers don't stay true to its source? comic indeed changes every time,but at least stick to its current condition,please.
Would love to see the creators vision for a movie. Never really thought of it that way. At least with this movie.
This guy haven't seen the new trailer for the remake has he?
I think he necked himself after seeing it...prolly cried in his a bed a little... barely could get up to shower the morning after....
I've been watching trailers to hyped movies I kinda hyped about as well and I've learnt one true thing: trailers lie hard
we don't yet know whar we're gonna get here (except the villain isn't a strong thing made on the screen)
@@BahiaDoSul Bro... Milla looks whack as the Blood Queen... I want to see her hair matted with dirt and water.. ... I want the entire scene of Hellboys death handled like a scene in Evil Dead.... Its night time and raining hard.... both actors give the most excruciating faces ... Milla needs to give an exaggerated face of victory and triumph....and David needs to give a us a face of pain, disgust, agony.... The whole scene should be slowed down, wide shots of them with lightning... and spouts of fire around the sides .... That Chest that Hellboy has is perfect for a prosthetic heart.... All they have to do is rig and design it so that Milla just has to dig her hand in and take Hellboys Heart..... With her left hand all she has to do is cup it around the left side of Hellboys face.... Have the Practical SFX team rig an eyeball that looks like the red contact lenses.... or a golf ball sized ball of some sort... Make it really exaggerated with a cup of blood makeup that bubbles out of the eye .... It would all be easily done using practical effects dummies... and movements from the actors... and stunt doubles as they roll around on the floor or even better rigged the actor up with cables and have them look like they are floating 4 feet from the ground....
Especially since we heard so much about the horror angle. I’m thinking this is just a bad trailer
Im doubt the trailer says very much about the movie iteslf to be honest. the movie itself is rated R written by hellboy's creator, but the trailer makes it look like just another pg-13 superhero flick. i have a feeling that the trailer does this on purpose in an attempt to sell tickets as the actual context of the movie itself may not lend itself well to a trailer.
Just wait until this guy see' s the trailer
That's what I like about the hellboy movies, its different to the comics. I don't want to go into a movie already knowing what going to happen.
I'll agree wit this. I loved the movies, but I do want something closer to the comics. We got that with the animated movies but not many people saw those (They were fantastic, by the way). It does sound weird not hearing Ron Perman's voice coming out he Hellboy's mouth, though. That's going to take awhile to get use to.
Once again, great video AR! You are a lot less brutal on the Hellboy films then I am though. I thought the new setting, new agent, and romance sublot were some of the dumbest things I've ever had to watch during a movie. All of it made Hellboy a joke, a laughable clown. Not just that but a laughable clown in love. The movies may have been what introduced me to his character, but they certainly aren't his character at all.
Yes new hellboy content.
THIS VIDEO IS SPOT ON! I’ve been saying this for years but when I do people just say “you don’t get hellboy”! Great movies that put a different audience perception on a character than the original.
The hellboy animated movies are very good and hit close to all the things he mentioned in this video
I was really looking forward to a hellboy detective style story with plenty of horror in 2019
Most fans are just fans of Perlman and Del Toro's films and not the comics, and that's kind of sad. And now with this wave of mediocre comic book adaptations, it's even more complicated to do something with Hellboy
all this complaint just for hellboy 2019 to be worser than ron’s hellboy 💀💀💀💀
Not really worse.
it fucking sucks
Yes, it was bad, but her point is still right and 2019's Hellboy reinforces that, after all, 2019's Hellboy tried to follow in the footsteps of Del Toro's Hellboy
The 2019 movie felt like it tried to cram as many references to the comics as possible without really understanding why they work.
Thank you for this! Would've loved to see a Hellboy movie that's a little more faithful to the comics. But after seeing the new trailer... Looks like that ain't happening anytime soon :-/
The 2019 Hellboy I used to be excited for, but the leaked trailer I watched made it look like complete garbage...
The trailer for Dredd was also terrible. It's only 2 minutes of clips of a 2 hour movie. Reserve judgment until you've seen it.
@@TheSpaceJockey91 The time they have till release isnt going to fix the horrible make-up, the terrible dialog, the horrid cinematography. Dredds trailer was mediocre, the hellboy trailer is the worst trailer I have seen for any movie period.
I had no idea about the differences between the comics and the movies. Thank you.
Read the comics or watch those two animated movies thank you
I hope that the 2019 reboot didn't kill the chances of actually getting a Comic accurate hellboy film, or anymore hellboy films at all. I do think now that streaming shows have the budgets of movies it'd be cool to have a hellboy show, I think having 6 to 10 hours allows for them to flesh out the world and be able to do more. We could even get some adaptations of the short stories as in one shot episodes in between big storylines or make the whole show episodic and just have each episode an adaptation of a new short.
It was to accurate
I want a show but not live action, I think an animation with an art style inspired on Mignola's art would be perfect
Oh how the tables have turned...
Been waiting for u to upload a video thanks love ur content.
I want to see the The Storm and the Fury trilogy adapted. (Darkness Calls, The Wild Hunt and The Storm and the Fury). Not to mention some of the short stories such as The Corpse, Box Full of Evil and The Island.
@Shadow yup I just remembered that. Truth to be told I wouldn't mind seeing Hellboy in Hell adapted.
Respectfully
When most people talk about hellboy comics being "serious" I kinda laugh because hellboy seems really sarcastic in the comics
He is. The only difference is that Pearlman's is more acerbic and hit-tempered. Comics' Hellboy is more of "roll the eyes" jaded dude... but I love both honestly.
There are different kinds of sarcasm like the one in In Bruges and the one in Deadpool. Del Toro Hellboy is the later.
New Hellboy movie is 3 Hellboy comic films. 3 Comics. Can't get better than that.
I love these movies to they were a part of my childhood and I understand what you’re saying you love the comic and I think the comic is also good to but these movies help me discover Hellboy and probably help our people to learn about Hellboy those will be on the actor of the comics same things like the avengers or any Marvel movie I know you enjoyed his movies tail so I’m not arguing I’m actually thankful you give me more knowledge of Hellboy to overall this video is also good to keep doing the good work😊👍👍
The movie cast did got closer to matching the comics in the animated movie.
I like to view comic based movies as completely unrelated to the source material, it helps to not have a harsher critic on the movie because it's not the same
Love this video! Keep up the hellboy stuff!!
The fairy market IS a historical place. Before the Brooklyn bridge was built, there was a boat crossing at that location and, as a major traffic point, a market in that location. It's a ferry market. I have a picture of it from a reproduction of Scientific American in the 1800s.
Wonder what his reaction to the reboot was
Don't forget about the animated movie Hellboy: Blood & Iron. That one's great in my opinion. :D Watched it several times when I found out it was free on TH-cam. X3
Nvrmind, looks like u did talk about the animated movies, I scrolled down and it was in the list... woops.
I want to be excited for the new movie. There's many reasons to be excited. From what I can see we get to see Hellboy approach the sword in the stone which sides with the comics of Hellboy being the descendant of King Arthur. We also get to see clips of Hellboy being part of "the hunt" and his battle with trolls which was part of Hellboy's adventure to finding out who he truly is... as it was in the books. But I'm totally taken back by the greasy long hair and the horrible comic timing of him getting shot at as he's exiting a vehicle. I totally want the new movie to be fantastic but I'm severely nervous. I just keep telling myself..."at least Hellboy isn't going to be a father."
Exactly what I was thinking it's whatever floats your boat, if you want to see Guillermo del Toros vision of Hellboy (which I personally love), watch Hellboy by him. Although if you want to see Mike Mignola's darker version get adapted for the screen then you have the right to enjoy it. I really want to actually give the new one a shot.
Great adaptation doesn’t mean to be faithful or neither to potrai the same characters as the original story
Watched the first movie yesterday. Easter egg: When they're walking Myers in to meet Hellboy, there's a shot where you can clearly see Roger the Homunculus standing in a glass case to the back left of the frame.
For the next time if you ever watch it again.
It's cool to hear the Food Inspector from Bob's Burger's talk about Hellboy
Now that I've seen this video and your comparison between MIB and Hellboy, I can't help but notice the similarites between the new trailers recently released for the two franchises such as the european setting and humorous tone.
I hate MIB Interacial Rookies that can do everything just to prove the older agents that Rookies can do everthing
Randomly found this and im real stoked to watch it later. I dont normally do movie type reviews but i actually did a brief rant about the hellboy reboot. Which im sure ill be in the minority with my opinion, and most people will miss the point i was trying to make. Anyways, im sure it wont compare to your videos and ill be sticking to what I normally do. Cheers man.
all i can say is that my Hellboy is the Guillermor del Toro movies. they may not be an exact telling from the original comics but that doesn't matter to me. i'd happily give the new movie a shot but the first trailer looked terrible. they're going to have to come out and show what they promised compared to what they showed
When you mentioned Hellboy walking around New York, I immediately thought of Men in Black. You didn’t disappoint a few seconds afterwards.
Oooooo, Descent! Loved that movie. Not so much the second one, but I watch it because it's a sequel and I still enjoy the monsters. Did you do a movie discussing that series?
I wonder if he's still excited now that the movie has come out? 😂
I honestly think they should've made a show about it.
The problem is that the del Toros trilogy is unfinished. Take it like this, if Nolan's Batman franchises The Dark Knight had ended with a cliffhanger and than all of the sudden we got Batman vs. Superman. People just want a journey that has a definitive ending.
I agree can't wait to see the new Hellboy movie
But I would love to see a third Delltoro movie as well
Those Del Toro movies are great, but the comics will always be the definitive version, there is no question. It was actually the darker more horror-ish tone one of the original trailers had that drew me into watching the movies, and now having read the first few stories in the Hellboy Omnibus Volume 1, I can definitely see the missteps the films made in terms of adaptation. Sadly it looks like we're gonna see the same problems with the new film judging by the trailer, more pulpy, too modern/urban and not enough horror. I want to see those old abandoned castles in the mountains and haunted mansions from the comics!
Well, according to recent events, the new film is going to be more true to the comics and even have Mignola himself behind the creative decisions. And it looks like its gonna tank. Hard. Sometimes having a healthy distance to sorcematerial isnt such a bad idea.
Thank you! Someone finally said it! The first two films were great but we need to move on from it and give this new guy a chance
To be fair, the first movie was ALOT more faithful to the comic book tone.
Not even remotely. It kept me away from Hellboy comics for quite a long time. Now I've read them all several times and there's a beauty to them. The movies are just generic.
@@eastvandb I mean, at least it's loosely based off of Seed of Destruction.
Ah, I see.
Anyway, our reactions to these things are subjective. I saw the first movie a long time before reading Hellboy and it gave me a pretty distorted idea of what Hellboy was. So when I finally got drawn in to the world, I found the movies annoying. I can see it being different for someone whose route was different.
@@eastvandb Yeah, I saw the movies first, so when I read the comics. I was kind of thrown off. I have a good appreciation for both of them now though. In my opinion Perlman was the perfect Hellboy. Hopefully Harbor does good in the new movie, although my expectations aren't very high.
I'm keeping my expectations as close to zero as possible so I can be pleasantly surprised by anything I enjoy!
As a long time fan from a time before Del Toro I can't help but agree. I also agree they are good movies, except the weird relationship with Liz and that useless agent Meyer side story which end up taking up half the flick I really like the first one, and the second too, because even if it doesn't follow canon you can always see were Del Toro got his inspiration from and its clear that he read every available story up to 2003, case in point Samael is clearly the cinematic version of the Frog men, he even reproduce as fast as those damn frog things! Even the golden army is inspired by the golden army, and even thou the original was formed by all kind of creatures it is again easy to pin point his source material. Now, I know that when you published this the reboot had yet to come out, but man, that really sucked big time, a huge clusterfuck of what should have been a straight forward story since it want to be the comics so much, but no, let's reinvent every single character and throw them in the story at random...and that Right Hand of Doom...it is square! Can't even comment on that.
I think it's just bad trailer marketing that makes this movie look bad. Wrong choice of song and too many jokes. If you look past all that I really see potential for this movie.
How do you feel about the trailer for the new Hellboy? Does it change your opinion of the Del Toro movies at all?
I need to show my girl this video. Awesome Video man. Really helped me out.
I love the comics but I also love Del Toro so it’s joys a win win
Oh boy I really want to watch your reaction to the new trailer!!! :P
It's funny how many people likes Guillermo Del Toro's Hellboy movies. It is like "Dude, have you EVER read (or understood) an original Hellboy's comic?".
Damn now you make me want a dark hellboy movie and read the comics. any special series in it? I rather read like 1-5 than 30+
Why does everyone think that the comics can translate to movies so smoothly. Not how that shit works
Yes it does... Game of Thrones meets ACDC meets Hellboy ... BOOM DONE.... with a little dash of Guillermo DelToro....and Mikey sitting in the back collecting his paycheck so he can finish BPRD comics
For real.
Like there are too many concepts to be introduced.
Especially in MCU and DCCU.
You know how hard would it be to explain Lady death or even introduce her as a reason for thanos and have it not fall flat and stupid.
Marvel and DC are very different, their stories are so convoluted telling their most popular stories more simple and different is pretty much the only way to go, you can't adapt over 70 years of comics on the big screen in a few years. Hellboy is way more linear and easier to adapt accurately to the comics on the big screen.
Aaaaaaand they fucked up the tone even worse and made a pretty bad movie, im also a fan of the comics and the Mignola's tone but the movies are really good being a little different
Yes, yes, book is better than movie. Didn't need eight minute video unsolicited in my feed to know that. This is stab at YT, not creator. Your production quality very satisfactory, keep at it.
Usually when people try to literally copy the original source material, and makes it into a live action film, it doesn’t work.
And then we have this movie, which is jaded of multiple stories of the original source material, making it much better and compelling.
Your right, if he’s not Hellboy we should give him a new name
Hell-Boiiiiiii
You got a movie now my boy
To be fair, a few stories in the comics take place during the 1950's to 60's, which sets hellboys age at 10 to 20 throught thoes adventures.
I heard the newest Hell Boy (trailer released 12 days prior to this comment) is closer to the source material. Of course people are complaining on the budget. It looks fine to me. The trailer itself made it seem like a horror film and didn’t showcase great scenes but I cannot lie that I am interested in watching the film.
I feel similarly towards Batman films, mainly the Dark Knight. It's a great film but a poor representation of the character of Batman presented in the comics and animated series.
To be fair, the trilogy was intended as a “What if Batman was the real world” type thing.
Tone and feeling, yes, you're correct on these terms. There's a sort of dreariness and dark humor in physically dark places. It can be a sort of monotone humor but it just translates so well to the reader. The movies don't do that.
I think Sony Animation should do a Hellboy movie in the same style as Spiderverse
I feel the same way about the Dark Knight trilogy. People always think I hate the movies, when I don't. I just don't look at them as particularly good representations of Batman. My main gripe is at the end of the day, Batman is a comic character and I expect comic things in them. This felt too real to the point where Batman didn't make sense in the setting of Nolan's "real life" atmosphere, it just feels off. I don't want real life when I watch these things, I want comic themes and archetypes of said characters. He should have just made a crime drama trilogy without Batman and his villains and it would have been more believable in a "real world" setting. All in all, great films though.