The Douglas Summit was a stronger performer compared to the Octave Horizon, so that would be my pick. You can see a side by side comparison here - naplab.com/tools/side-by-side-mattress-comparison-tool/?_mattress_name_dropdown=douglas-summit%2Coctave-horizon
Thanks for this detailed review, I’m inching towards the Summit for its low-sink, cooling and medium-firm feel. It would be nice if Douglas offered more feature-rich adjustable bases, however. Your channel is great, the videos are well-put together, consistent and well organized. You deserve way more subscribers!
You're welcome! Glad you found it helpful. I do agree, I'd like to see Douglas expand their adjustables also. Thanks so much for your sub and your kind words! With any luck the TH-cam algorithmic will show us some love this year.
Hey there! Thanks for your feedback on our adjustable bases. We'll be sure to pass it along to our product development team! In the meanwhile, if you have any questions about the Summit, don't hesitate to reach out.
I'm a side sleeper who runs hot on all-foam mattress, but always prefers them because of motion transfer. In looking at cooling as a top consideration, is it worth the price jump to choose the Summit over the Original? How does the Original compare to something like a Zinus? (If you have any experience with that.) Love the content! As a researcher, I appreciate your approach and documentation.
The cool difference between the Summit and Original is not dramatic. I don't think you'd find it worth the extra costs. The Original is significantly better than any Zinus I've tested. Zinus is an extremely basic mattress and is currently being sued with a class action lawsuit due to fiberglass safety concerns - www.classaction.org/news/class-action-claims-zinus-mattresses-can-expel-fiberglass-causing-injury-property-damage - suffice to say, it's not one I'd recommend.
@@NapLabReviews One last question. If you had to recommend a mattress in Canada for a side sleeper who runs hot (and is easily distributed by a partner) would this be your pick?
@@lesliecapobianco1254 Nest Bedding's Sparrow would be your best option (while keeping the price to a reasonable level) - naplab.com/go/nest-bedding-sparrow-mattress - Though it's still far more expensive then the Douglas. Avocado Eco is another good choice and a little less expensive - naplab.com/go/avocado-eco-mattress Logan and Cove Choice is probably your best overall value - naplab.com/mattress-reviews/logan-and-cove-choice-review/ - though it's a little worse for motion.
Lightweight side sleeper here. This mattress is WAY too firm. My arms fall asleep when I lay on my side and I can't sleep AT ALL. Also the motion transfer is very high. Maybe not for a wine glass on one side and localized weight of a bowling ball on the opposite side but a person moving around next to another person definitely makes the whole bed shake. Even slight movements from my partner can be felt on my side of the bed. This review was what made me lock and load on this mattress when looking for one. Sending the mattress back!!
I'm sorry to hear the mattress wasn't a good fit for you. If you're finding this level of firmness to be too firm, you may need to step down considerably on the firmness scale to something in the "soft" or "extra soft" range. This mattress is a very typical medium to medium-firm feel. Unfortunately, your options for an extra soft mattress in Canada are extremely limited. Regarding motion transfer - what type of bed frame do you have? All of our tests are done on a solid platform frame, which creates the lowest levels of motion when compared to other frames. Certain frames and foundations can create considerably more motion.
Hi, we're sorry to hear this. We understand that not everyone will have the same experiences with our mattresses and are glad to hear you'll be able to take full advantage of your sleep trial. Should you need any assistance with your return, our customer care team is always ready to help.
That's fantastic news! Thank you for choosing Douglas! We're excited for you to experience the comfort of our mattress. If you have any questions or need assistance in the meantime, feel free to reach out. Enjoy your new Douglas mattress!
It's so good 😭😭 Im finally able to lay on my stomach and back with no pain (I have chronic pain with scoliosis and Ehlers danlos and other issues lol) it's so comfy but firm enough to support. I still get hot and sweaty but I run extra hot and sweat easily but it's much cooler than my old one
Like the other day I was able to crack a spot with major chronic pain in my back that I haven't been able to in years, over a decade. Definitely what I needed.
Douglas summit mattress or Logan and cove hybrid mattress (medium)? I'm a relatively light side sleeper, but also very sexually active. I have to trade off for the bounce 🥲. What do you think?
I think you said there’s no memory foam in the summit but I’m pretty sure it’s in the original. On the website all their mattresses use the same type of foam just different depths.
My apologies for the confusion. I should have been more clear. There is no visco elastic polyurethane foam in any of the mattresses. Historically, manufacturer's have used the label "memory foam" in place of visco elastic polyurethane foam. In more recent years manufacturers have largely stopped using visco elastic polyurethane foam, instead relying on more modern non-visco elastic poly foam formulations. These formulations retain many of the attributes of earlier memory foams, but aren't heat reactive and don't have many of the negative attributes (heat retention, slow response). All that to say, none of the Douglas mattresses use visco elastic polyurethane foam. But they do use poly foams that behave like other modern memory foams. Hope that clears it up.
@@jasonmccarty9 They are still out there, but they are far less common. It's hard to know if it's more traditional memory or not until it's actually at your door...as "memory foam" has no legal definition. As a result, brands use it to describe both visco elastic poly foam and non-visco elastic poly foam.
Interesting. I can’t stand the mattress industry. A whole lot of useless marketing and gimmicks that don’t make better mattresses. I was at a store recently and they read a spec sheet of a Kingsdown they had horse hair in it. It was also a mile high. Ridiculous.
Our sex score is a simple equation where we look at 5 different factors. Each factor is given a different weight based on how important we think that factor is for most people. Bounce = 60% (objective measurement) Edge support = 20% (objective measurement) Noise = 10% (subjective assessment) Pressure relief = 5% (subjective assessment) Cooling = 5% (subjective assessment)
Buy Douglas Summit - naplab.com/go/douglas-summit-mattress
Questions? Ask away! I do my best to answer all questions within 24 hours.
Close to pulling the trigger on this or the Octave Horizon. Any preference after your reviews? Thanks
The Douglas Summit was a stronger performer compared to the Octave Horizon, so that would be my pick.
You can see a side by side comparison here - naplab.com/tools/side-by-side-mattress-comparison-tool/?_mattress_name_dropdown=douglas-summit%2Coctave-horizon
Thanks for this detailed review, I’m inching towards the Summit for its low-sink, cooling and medium-firm feel. It would be nice if Douglas offered more feature-rich adjustable bases, however. Your channel is great, the videos are well-put together, consistent and well organized. You deserve way more subscribers!
You're welcome! Glad you found it helpful.
I do agree, I'd like to see Douglas expand their adjustables also.
Thanks so much for your sub and your kind words! With any luck the TH-cam algorithmic will show us some love this year.
Hey there! Thanks for your feedback on our adjustable bases. We'll be sure to pass it along to our product development team! In the meanwhile, if you have any questions about the Summit, don't hesitate to reach out.
I'm a side sleeper who runs hot on all-foam mattress, but always prefers them because of motion transfer.
In looking at cooling as a top consideration, is it worth the price jump to choose the Summit over the Original?
How does the Original compare to something like a Zinus? (If you have any experience with that.)
Love the content! As a researcher, I appreciate your approach and documentation.
The cool difference between the Summit and Original is not dramatic. I don't think you'd find it worth the extra costs.
The Original is significantly better than any Zinus I've tested. Zinus is an extremely basic mattress and is currently being sued with a class action lawsuit due to fiberglass safety concerns - www.classaction.org/news/class-action-claims-zinus-mattresses-can-expel-fiberglass-causing-injury-property-damage - suffice to say, it's not one I'd recommend.
@@NapLabReviews Thank you for your reply! That saves me $800 between the Summit and Original!
@@lesliecapobianco1254 My pleasure 😊
@@NapLabReviews One last question. If you had to recommend a mattress in Canada for a side sleeper who runs hot (and is easily distributed by a partner) would this be your pick?
@@lesliecapobianco1254 Nest Bedding's Sparrow would be your best option (while keeping the price to a reasonable level) - naplab.com/go/nest-bedding-sparrow-mattress - Though it's still far more expensive then the Douglas.
Avocado Eco is another good choice and a little less expensive - naplab.com/go/avocado-eco-mattress
Logan and Cove Choice is probably your best overall value - naplab.com/mattress-reviews/logan-and-cove-choice-review/ - though it's a little worse for motion.
Lightweight side sleeper here. This mattress is WAY too firm. My arms fall asleep when I lay on my side and I can't sleep AT ALL. Also the motion transfer is very high. Maybe not for a wine glass on one side and localized weight of a bowling ball on the opposite side but a person moving around next to another person definitely makes the whole bed shake. Even slight movements from my partner can be felt on my side of the bed. This review was what made me lock and load on this mattress when looking for one. Sending the mattress back!!
I'm sorry to hear the mattress wasn't a good fit for you.
If you're finding this level of firmness to be too firm, you may need to step down considerably on the firmness scale to something in the "soft" or "extra soft" range. This mattress is a very typical medium to medium-firm feel. Unfortunately, your options for an extra soft mattress in Canada are extremely limited.
Regarding motion transfer - what type of bed frame do you have?
All of our tests are done on a solid platform frame, which creates the lowest levels of motion when compared to other frames. Certain frames and foundations can create considerably more motion.
Hi, we're sorry to hear this. We understand that not everyone will have the same experiences with our mattresses and are glad to hear you'll be able to take full advantage of your sleep trial. Should you need any assistance with your return, our customer care team is always ready to help.
My current mattress is older than me and i just ordered this one, i cant wait.
That's fantastic news! Thank you for choosing Douglas! We're excited for you to experience the comfort of our mattress. If you have any questions or need assistance in the meantime, feel free to reach out. Enjoy your new Douglas mattress!
Nice! I'd love to hear how you like it.
It's so good 😭😭 Im finally able to lay on my stomach and back with no pain (I have chronic pain with scoliosis and Ehlers danlos and other issues lol) it's so comfy but firm enough to support.
I still get hot and sweaty but I run extra hot and sweat easily but it's much cooler than my old one
Like the other day I was able to crack a spot with major chronic pain in my back that I haven't been able to in years, over a decade. Definitely what I needed.
@@Seikazo That's great to hear! So glad it's working out so well for you. Thanks for sharing your experience!
This or the Logan and cove firm. I'm 257 pounds , back and side sleeper, I like a contouring feel and I like good back support.
Thanks
Definitely this.
I really was quite underwhelmed by Logan & Cove. Cooling, edge support, and sex performance were significantly lacking on L&C.
Douglas summit mattress or Logan and cove hybrid mattress (medium)?
I'm a relatively light side sleeper, but also very sexually active. I have to trade off for the bounce 🥲.
What do you think?
Both are fantastic performers, but given your needs I would say the L&C Frontier is the better choice.
How does this compare to the similarly priced Endy Hybrid?
Unfortunately, I haven't yet tested the Endy Hybrid. So I am unsure how they would really compare.
Endy is on my list to test later this year.
I think you said there’s no memory foam in the summit but I’m pretty sure it’s in the original. On the website all their mattresses use the same type of foam just different depths.
My apologies for the confusion. I should have been more clear.
There is no visco elastic polyurethane foam in any of the mattresses. Historically, manufacturer's have used the label "memory foam" in place of visco elastic polyurethane foam.
In more recent years manufacturers have largely stopped using visco elastic polyurethane foam, instead relying on more modern non-visco elastic poly foam formulations. These formulations retain many of the attributes of earlier memory foams, but aren't heat reactive and don't have many of the negative attributes (heat retention, slow response).
All that to say, none of the Douglas mattresses use visco elastic polyurethane foam. But they do use poly foams that behave like other modern memory foams.
Hope that clears it up.
Awesome thanks! Super helpful. Are there not still strict visco elastic memory foam beds by tempur pedic, etc.
@@jasonmccarty9 They are still out there, but they are far less common. It's hard to know if it's more traditional memory or not until it's actually at your door...as "memory foam" has no legal definition. As a result, brands use it to describe both visco elastic poly foam and non-visco elastic poly foam.
Interesting. I can’t stand the mattress industry. A whole lot of useless marketing and gimmicks that don’t make better mattresses. I was at a store recently and they read a spec sheet of a Kingsdown they had horse hair in it. It was also a mile high. Ridiculous.
@@jasonmccarty9 Lol...indeed, horse hair always kills me.
How do you do the sex test?
Our sex score is a simple equation where we look at 5 different factors. Each factor is given a different weight based on how important we think that factor is for most people.
Bounce = 60% (objective measurement)
Edge support = 20% (objective measurement)
Noise = 10% (subjective assessment)
Pressure relief = 5% (subjective assessment)
Cooling = 5% (subjective assessment)
Lmao
"ALL FOAM MATTRESS" NOT "AWFUL MATTERESS" LOOOOOL
Oh my, did it sound like "awful mattress"
Woops!
Indeed - it's not awful at all! It's an exceptionally good ALL FOAM mattress.
pp@@NapLabReviews
lol sex category
A top priority for any mattress!
Mattress is more firm than medium.
How firm would you rate it?
@@NapLabReviews closer to 8 than 7