This is why I've been distancing myself from social media, people ruin my love for everything, I remember finishing the game Xenoblade Chronicles 2, and going online to see what other people thought of the game, I personally loved it, but as soon as I went online, all I saw was hate and malice towards the game, it instantly soured my mood
But is that really a problem with other people? For example, I really disliked Fallout 4, and I'll openly discuss that with other fans that either dislike it themselves or are open to talking about its pros and cons. I don't think I'm wrong for expressing that. The major difference is in whether somebody that hates the game is simply expressing that, or actively attacking those that do like the game. In my opinion, only the latter is wrong. Not being able to express hate for anything at all is as toxic as only hating things.
Why do people hate everything? They can't stop complaining, and the only thing so many of these disgusting toxic people love more is when you talk against them and they have a chance to be toxic and shut you down. These are miserable people and nothing is ever good enough for them.
@@cosmicabyss7358 I think that's a bad mindset. For one, you should never allow the opinions of others to affect your feelings towards something you like. I love plenty of things that people hate. Just as well, you shouldn't assume. Sure, some people hate just to hate, but that's their problem. Other's may have very valid reasons, and they're entitled to those feelings. All of this of course, with the same caveat as I stated originally. You can criticize all you want as long as you don't act unkind towards those that like something you don't.
Gamers fell into the Suicide Squad raging bait, because *they expected* Rocksteady to create a game as good as or better than their beloved Arkham Trilogy. They also trashing Skull and Bones because *they expected* Ubisoft to create a game as good as or better than AC: Black Flag. What game they AREN´T hatting? Helldivers 2, because *they expected* Arrowhead to create a game as good as or better than PS3 Helldivers, and they got their wish. Is everything about "Expectations", and TH-camrs, the outraging media, and some toxic gamers, are rage-baiting over it until the algorithm moves somewhere else: One day, they are trashing FFVI Rebirth ending, and the next day they are opening Pokemon cards and the another they are "raging" about the new Baldur's Gate update. They are surfing towards the algorithm and they won't stop it, and gamers are catching that killer wave full of toxic waste.
because they don't they are toxic ppl themselves and act in a lot of self-denial and the internet is partly to blame and lack of parenting as well because they grew up becoming more and more self-entitled and overly entitled, they don't appreciate the little things like a game being able to be fully-developed and released or the little funny moments and enjoyable experiences
All I see on youtube nowdays involving gaming is mostly negativity, nitpicking, drama and sometimes just pure hate. It’s sad that most people here on youtube are willing to make a whole video about picking apart a game instead of talking about a game they love with their whole being. This negativity is just so damn toxic.
Sadly too many channels just parrot what the general internet thinks with no opinion of their own even if they enjoyed a game they'll just give it a mixed review if the internet hates it
Just because you watched this video doesn’t mean you cant be critical of games, gamers are often sold incomplete products, malfunctioning products, manipulative expensive monetized products. No other consumer base takes it up the butt like gamers do voluntarily
It really gets under my skin. Every single gaming trailer all the comments just negative, tearing the games down. Why? I truly dont understand. Why not just be positive and if you dont like a game move on.
People just take a joy in destruction. They got taught by Angry Video Game Nerd and Angry Joe to basically hate every game that isn't 100/100 in it's inception. I like Baldur's Gate 3, but I've never enjoyed it the way I enjoyed Cyberpunk, and I've played both Divinity Original Sins 1/2, grew up playing final fantasy remakes. The game just doesn't have strong initial narrative like Cyberpunk, it takes ages to build up the pace to anything, and I'm still in crash site, doing some random walking in middle of nowhere, no clue what I'm doing or where to go. Some people like to say "well you got choices, it's open ended", but there's no narration. At least game like Witcher 3 (which is probably one of the best Open RPGs, probably after Cyberpunk) you start really-really strongly with Geralt's personal story and walking with his mentor, even doing a small quest to hunt down griffin with him. That feels very tight story until much later where the game opens up and you've leveled up a bit. Then it starts to feel more open and gives you options to wander around... in which time I've lost interest and never finished W3... But I did finish Cyberpunk, 3 times over. People just hate games, don't have any clue about the games they criticize, think some old game they've owned is a masterpiece or something, and any attempt to remake it would be fatal if it doesn't have 100/100 community approval. If there's even a chance of someone not liking lets say some side character becoming gay or something, the whole game is suddenly ruined, even you never cared about that character to begin with. Same thing with Dumbledore being gay. Like I never assumed him any sexuality at all. He was just an old guy who was a bit weird and that's it. Now he is younger in new movie and turns out he loves some DUDE, like I don't care, I don't have to mimic his emotions and adapt them into myself... But I guess this is where the insecurity of these conservatives shine that don't want to change anything. I would assume they actually got pretty sad childhood and games were their only escape from it, and something in that remake idea triggers them. That's why they can't enjoy a gaming franchise with 10-20 year pause, because that franchise didn't shield them from losing a girlfriend, or wife deciding not to divorce, or parent dying. It's just showing what everyone knows these people are, angry and insecure. Insecure about themselves and having desperate need to seek any sort of validation, but they can't do that out by some positive thinking. No they must be getting that from being "brave" and "fighting" about it, to prove their masculinity... and in doing so, only proving how weak they actually are. I would say the roots are very primal and there's very little thinking behind it.
I love how people say things used to be better Yeah because the wii bargain bin shovelware catalog was so much better We didn't get a refund back then because twitter wasn't there to cancel devs
Fr people seem to be disappointed with everything nowadays and I don't see why, amazing games are coming out constantly. People are too focused on the companies and reviews and not their actual enjoyment of the game.
Because everyone is soft now. With most people given everything they need and want they expect gratification from everything and being butthurt is an entire personality trait.
Its trendy to hate everything in existence these days. Its annoying. If modern gamers hate games so much why do they keep playing them? Why not crowdfund and develop their own?
- TH-camrs Are Too Negative Nowadays. - The true agenda behind their op-vids. It's all for that clickbait algorithm cash grab. Coloring the opinion to appeal to the viewership count.
After I decide to be a normal people (aka casual ones) instead of a hardcore gamer who shat on every games that someone hates, my view to the game itself change a lot in positive ways and I'm not regretting about it at all.
This take is both well developed and beautifully articulated. I think it's exactly what's happening to Starfield right now. Thank you for making this video, subscribed.
Awesome video. Tbh, I never bought into the whole ‘modern gaming sucks’ bs, have always had a different view on it. - ‘Bad’ games existed back then too. It’s just that they’re just completely forgotten about. But nowadays, you have many people eyeing new releases like vultures, and ready to make hour-long videos on stuff they don’t like. Every era has a mix of games, and to expect every single piece of media to be good is like saying the world should be a better place than it is, and that world peace should exist. It seems like games were better before because only the bed games are remembered from that era. - Yeah, gamers complain about the dumbest things and are generally never satisfied. Too often, they feel just straight up self-entitled, complaining about old-school vs modern. Complaining there’s ‘too many, super long open-world games’ when no one’s forcing you to play them. Doesn’t help people are often scared to step out of their comfort zones and experience new things. - People not realising maybe they’re just tired or burnt out of games (video titled “Games Aren’t Fun Anymore” by Foekoe Gaming perfectly goes over this). Maybe it’s time to try out a different genre of games, or a different hobby altogether. - Opinions and the Internet go together as well as polar bears and the Sahara Desert. It’s baffling how people can’t like something somewhat unpopular without some clown telling them they’re wrong to like it because it’s ‘objectively flawed’. Expecting perfection in everything WILL leave you always disappointed
I agree Every gaming generation has been a golden age in its own way. And people seriously need to realise fun is subjective and not some objective rigid standard
I’ve realized how bad it was when Callisto Protocol released, yeah it deserves some criticism but for people to just flat out call it trash makes me wonder if people are actually experiencing it themselves…
Cyberpunk 2077 was that for me. To see those glaze the game to high hell, only to turn on that game the moment it launched horribly. This drove me over the edge because i was looking at how high-n-mighty people saying all the virtue signal of "don't preorder or "buy with your wallet" words, only to betray their words for cyberpunk. That point onwards, I loss all respect of these social media gamers, and decided never again will I bound myself to popular opinion.
... If you can't play it because it's too broken, of course you're not gonna like it. Like, since when has it become normal for every game to have the baseline requirements of a NASA computer?
finally someone who thinks like me, i don't gonna lie some games deserved to be criticized for literally scamming people 60 or more bucks but seriously every game has to be bad? gamers only are holding the industry down, not helping it, i understand why the companies now want to approach the casual gamers or people who doesn't play much in their new games, they literally are karens that have too much free time to complain about anything.
I am sick of these gamers having complain and send death threats to these devolpers who just want to make a good game but has to delay it. And it also sucks that gamers tear other people down just because they like a certain game or has a opinion
I agree. I’ve been gaming every single day since 1985 and I can say with 100% certainty that gaming is better than its ever been. Maybe that just because I don’t play terrible games with predatory monetization but I’ve had nothing but one life changing experience after the other with every new game I play. This past year I played 15 games, 10 of which were 10/10 games and the rest were 9/10. I played games that got so much hate that you would think it was the worst game imaginable yet my 40 years of experience says it was 9/10 game. Games like Lords of the Fallen (2023), absolutely solid 9/10. Hell, I enjoyed Forspoken so much I did 3 consecutive playthroughs. It was THE best magic combat in any game, period. Gamers have just become overly nitpicky insufferable haters that enjoy hating on games more than they actually playing them. Ya know, maybe gaming just isn’t for them and they should try a new hobby.
People have become whiny little bitches. I grew up in the 90's I've played 1000's of games as well did work for one. I just see so many people bitching that games are bad. or movies are bad, when the truth is.. they do not even know what bad is.
As i always say, its now a rare ability to even play a game and not spend atleast 25% of the time with it just compaining. Being able to enjoy a videk game today is a challenge as people always try to convince you its bad.
I absolutely agreed I'm someone who actually gets these negative reviews always stoned in my head while playing a game that's why at this point Im only checking recent/all reviews percentage just to know if it's good or bad and if the game is for me I really feel bad for the indie Devs when they make 1 small mistake on the launch and their entire game gets ruined because of it.
It's part and parcel of the Internet. Being negative and hateful online is just a pass-time for many, they come to feed off of the negativity. Every angry video game review channel knows that this is what gets the clicks and generates the revenue. Misery loves company I guess.
First positive video game content ive managed to find today. Thank you for that. There isnt nearly enough. Im in my forties and ive been playing games for most of my life. We used to play for fun. I couldnt even begin to guess how many times ive played the first level of mario bros. Saving your progress wasnt even a thing then. You just started over from the beginning and did all the same shit again because it was fun. It was play. Nowadays its called "grinding" instead of "playing" and ive always absolutely hated that term. To my mind, if someone is playing but views it as work, their view of what theyre doing is fundamentally flawed. People have more now than they ever have but they act as if theyre unhappier than ever. I hate the endless amounts of "is it worth trying this ftp game?" type videos on yt. Its fucking free. How could it possibly not be worth it? Do people think their free time they were gonna spend jerking off is so valuable it might not be worthwhile playing a FREE game? What the fuck even is that? Gaming culture today makes me either sad or pissed off a lot of the time. Not pissed off with the games but with the players. Which is why i love the idea of games but usually end up being that weirdo playing mmo's by himself. Because i play for fun. Not to listen to everyone else in the guild whining like little bitches and acting like theyre doing the game a favour by logging in instead of it being the other way around. Now everyone can go ahead and angrily start calling me a boomer and defending their shitty, entitled behaviour. Just be aware that its not original and it wont change my mind. The only thing that will is people acting less shitty about the thing we all love.
I noticed that too all my friends who game are so negative towards everything everything is bad, companies are evil and they carry this negativity towards every encounter in the world Its exhausting to deal with these kind of people and the majority in the internet seem to be doing the same thing. Internet isnt becoming a tool to connect, it has become a tool to spread negativity.
I agree with you @1995krampe and the gaming community believes there is going to be the next big gaming crash just like 1983. Which is not. gaming from both triple AAA double AA and Indie have a bright future together and I’m ready for what’s next in the future
This is is so true, i was playing going under once on my xbox and i really enjoyed it but my friends became toxic about right after they saw the graphics, not even 5 minutes of gameplay. This is also true outside of gaming. People are generally so toxic and it's really hard to find someone tha isnt or not be yourself toxic. Technically even this comment is just complaining about society, just like you said, we got worse. Plus if this generetion keeps beeing toxic, so will the next one as they will propably copy us. Hopefully that's not true. Great video.
@@FranklyGamingthey took the piss on ffxvi but I had a blast. This lashout is killing enthusiasm so devs feel it and react accordingly, so we get REAL slop.
Let's be realistic: COVID-19 increased the toxicity in videogames communities in a way so unimaginable that it seems you're all in hell. Both fanboys and (primarily) haters are just so fucking immature.
Social media is a cesspool of hate and what opinions people see the majority have, they let that dictate their opinion. That is why I deleted Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and the only thing that I still have left is reddit and TH-cam and I barely use it reddit.
You didn't even talk about how Indie games are going through the biggest boom they've ever had, they're are more people making more games now than ever, at higher quality too. What passes for Indie today would have been big budget only 10 years ago.
The reason why is that people are so obsessed with criticism despite the fact that not everyone is knowledgeable enough for their criticism to hold much weight. People think that just because people are upset that means their criticism is valid and that devs need to listen to them. People cant accept that developers usually know better than them, and they cant accept that what a game is amd how it plays is up to the people actually making the game.
I agree! I'm in my 40's and have had the privilege of watching gaming evolve over the years and wouldn't believe in my youth that games would've gotten to the place they are today. I do believe that criticism is necessary and do recognize the shitty things that some gaming companies engage in but it's also important to give credit to the amazing advancements and ingenuity that has been displayed by gaming developers over the years. What you pointed out in this video is what i tell my teenage son often. Gaming is something my whole family takes part in and has also allowed me to form friendships from across the globe. Great video and i love your content! I first became aware of your channel because of CP2077 but have stuck around because of your unique perspective and passion you have for gaming! Keep up the good work and I'll keep watching!👍
Even though I don't even have as much experience to gaming as much as you (started around 2016/2017), I completely agree that alot of people on the internet are completely overblowing the fact that gaming is in an extremely great spot at the moment. We can all complain about AAA but we have alot of indie games like Stray, A Plague Tale, Cult of the lamb, and much more. I would even argue that good AAA companies are starting to shine with games like Elden Ring and God of War. I used to think that I was "Late to gaming" but now I don't think anyone can be late to gaming.
@@FranklyGaming You're awesome and you'll never understand how much I apreciate your courage to stand up for what's right. We can't let these toxic nasty people win.
@@cosmicabyss7358don't worry they won't, because they mostly just exist only on the internet if you actually go outside gaming is far better received and well seing today than it ever was
Wow...incredible, this is actually so true, and i want even tell of my experience how all of this became too much negativity. When I played Borderlands 3, I was in ectasy, I really loved everything of the game and still play it, but people still bring negativity and really dumb argument, all because that game come out at EGS first instead of Steam, and the same to another game I love it and is Dead Island 2, my reviews is get harassed with clown badges indicate now sign of mocking and the funny votation to bring their discord to me. But I learned to ignore them and move on, but in the same time, find a solution to fight them back without interacting with them, and is to say each time they give me a clown badge, I said they spend the money into a stranger for nothing and thank them for the badge and for the funny votation I said they put funny because what I said is true, and even reveal their toxicity. Unfortunately, the toxicity and the negative have been spread even on movies, comic, and even tv shows, showing nothing is safe, and we need to do something and be ourselves and said our true feels, even is negative, you need to respect other people's opinion, even you don't like it, only like that, show you are not toxic but a human being and not a robot, and we need to do something before is too late. Even in my late 1 year, this video opened a true message and said the absolutely true.
Naaaah, its all because.... whining is trendy...and for some... It even sells, and not to mention the lack of personal taste nowadays, thus most were just parroting whatever they heard on the internet or someone elses opinion (alot even without having their own personal hands on experience)
@@mamory3791 You people are. Y'all sitting here endlessly telling me and others that we shouldn't enjoy this game. Well we do, deal with it. What are you gonna do find me and uninstall it? I don't see people angry that people play skyrim! That game still has tons of bugs. Elden Ring has crashed on me at least 10 times and has a matchmaking bug that drops your connection 2 mins in, but no one is saying that game is the wost thing ever. I love Elden Ring, not even hating on it. Cyberpunk has only crashed like twice since I started playing it on my PC. Y'all need to go find a hobby.
If hating big corpo that lied to many people, abuse it workers and sell unfinished products is a loss for you, i hope cyberpunk dlc that you preordered be buggy like cyberpunk.
I think the one thing I miss from older games are encounter specific mechanics. Just a way to make individual boss fights or set piece sequences feel more unique.
Ya that was something a lot of old games focused on which was cool, there is some in say elden ring and other titles but bosses don’t seem to be as much of a focus, thanks for watching by the way!
You are such an underrated Channel, your reasoning, your voice, calm yet profound, I really appreciate your work. I think one big thing, that comes naturally due to age, when we were Children everything seemed unreachable, the potential of games was almost infinite... now that we reached adulthood, we see the potential that could have been, that was compromised for short gain profits and other corporate decisions. Which is probably the biggest catalyst for people online having such strong opinions.. in a way, the louder Twitter screams, the more it resembles Johnny screaming into his Mic.. an uproar against Corporations, which is ultimately futile.
@@FranklyGaming I think people become cynical due to releases like R2TW and Fallout 76 and Cyberpunk 77. In no other industry do people bend over so hard for malfunctioning and incomplete products. Imagine releasing a car as a big german car brand in the same state as cyberpunk 2077, people would flat out die. I know its not a perfect analogy but you catch my drift. Lets cheer for the things that do work, but lets be critical of bad products like any other industry and its customers do.
Almost a year later and this video is still ringing 1000% absolutely true. Cant begin to tell you how many dumbass video essays about how "bad" modern games are pop into my feed randomly. Its so tiring and is the very reason ive stopped interacting with gamers online. They're all so bitter and jaded and refuse to look for good games to play and focus solely on the bad and then pretend every modern game is like that. Will always prefer my small social circle instead.
This comment cheers me up because I'm going through a similar thing. These video essays and the people who make them are honestly some sad pathetic asshats who just make a living out of negativity. These video essays are more damaging than modern games themselves.
I used to have the mentality that I had to be really good at games to have fun, be a high rank, min max and memorize co-op and single player games, and that the best part of gaming was flaunting your achievements. Then, actually right before Cyberpunk came out, I kinda just pulled a complete 180 in my mentality. I was finally starting to get good at the multiplayer games I played, but I stopped having "fun". Something clicked and I started to just play games and not care about how I was doing, I just let myself enjoy it. Ever since then I've just been able to play and enjoy games. In a way I actually believe it was Cyberpunk that flipped those thoughts for me, I remember finding it funny about how buggy it was and all, but I actually gave it a positive review on steam. I just let myself have fun in what was beneath all the negatives, and that's where I started to enjoy games again.
I hate when people just hate a game for having a female protagonist who is slightly darker. I mean I get games like spiderman 2 where they intentionally make mj powerful and ugly but atleast give these games a chance, hate the gameplay.
Thanks for making the video. I have a real difficulty liking new games because people don't like them. Which makes me feel terrible that I like them. Like what I like is invalid. I just want to like games.
I agree, somehow so many people already hate something even tho they never play it at first. For example, NFS Unbound, BF 2042, Spiderman 2, and AC Mirage. It's pretty understandable why they hate it. We already in Internet era, so many information we got in a little time. People see so many videos about what game is good and what game is bad. Most of them are about comparison between Old game and new game. With that video they saw, people were already thinking that maybe a new game is becoming worse than an old game. Tbh, I'm already at that phase. Now I can enjoy old and new games. Both of them are not the same. They lived in a different era. The focus has been shifted and the target is different too. I'm not complaining about it because I'm already old. If I hate about something, maybe the target is not for me
This might be my new favorite video. Im a big BGS fan, when starfield came out i was enjoying it quite a bit, however seeing all the negativity online took a toll on my mental, i started feeling "guilty" for enjoying it, like maybe i shouldnt have been having fun. It felt like the whole world was against me, and i was wrong. I had dropped the game after rushing through the main quest, practically didnt even bother with side content. Thankfully, now, half a year later i picked it back up and have been having a blast. I wish i hadnt payed attention to the negativity, the internet sullied my first experience with starfield. So thanky you for this video.
While I appreciate, understand, and, to an extent, agree with what you're saying in this video, I also think there is room for *legitimate* criticism. AAA companies HAVE succumbed to massive amount of greed, and have put profit over product. Micro-transactions, except in VERY SPECIFIC circumstances (such as, yes, Valorant's model) are cancerous to multiplayer gaming. Creativity IS on the downswing in big studios, in the same way that it is in movies and TV, because corporations are so risk averse, so they just keep pumping out the same old, same old, because they know it will make money, either through inertia or nostalgia. All that said, there are a crapton of indie studios that are, IMO, keeping that pioneer spirit of gaming alive. Sure, they might not have the prettiest games out there (and let's face facts...no matter how pretty a game is, if the nicest thing you can say about a game is "it looks great/it has great FPS", then the game is an objective failure...that's just being realistic, not 'hating'), but the have *SOUL*. I think the best example in recent memory is Stray. That game is AWESOME!! Super atmospheric; clearly crafted with a massive amount of love and care; an interesting story; an intricate backstory; amazing atmospheric storytelling; and just overall a truly amazing game. All put out by a small studio and a bunch of folks with a few dollars and a big dream. That, IMO, is the spirit that needs to sweep through the industry. We need to stop supporting the big corporations who keep churning out by the numbers drek, dial down out hate-boners for everything that's not absolutely and unequivocally perfect on Day Zero, and get back to supporting devs and studios with love and passion for the industry, AND THE FANS.
While there are great games nowadays there are alot of AAA companies that produce beautiful yet souless games, and i think that is one of the points that frustrate most players. Its the promise vs delivery from the big ones that end up disappointing. And i agree that theres way too much negativity, its almost as if people go watch a new video about a new game with the mindset already on the "bad" side, its like people got addicted to anger. I dont mind people getting angry whithin reason, but some people simply look like they enjoy being outraged.
8:38 You hit it right on the button with this statement. One of things i strongly dislike about the way the gaming community behaves these days. There's no individuality, mostly everyone just obsessively mirroring other people's words just to fit in.
Showing riot games is not a 'great example of free to play'. Riot games for so many years have pushed the goal post of their pricing models further and further to the point where you get these ridiculous skin line bundles that cost 200+ usd that can't even be fully upgraded. Using more systems and psychological tricks to entice it's userbase to spend more money. They started pushing it too far right after 2014 and it just spiraled out of control. The cosmetics do not affect gameplay, but THIS IS NOT HOW FREE TO PLAY SHOULD BE MODELED AFTER.
gamers are always saying "games just don't hit different anymore" as if its the games fault no its not, its down to you growing up and not having a small child brain that's easily amazed by everything
So you haven't noticed developers turning games into woke, monetised, anime cartoons? I was there at the dawn of 'Pong' and home computers, so maybe I see thing differently to you. More importantly, this generation of 'games' (if you can even call them that) insults my intelligence as a gamer.
Honestly these days I’ve been trying to tune out any large amounts of hatred towards like anything, and also trying to work on not hating everything myself. I think the negativity has gotten so bad that gamers are starting to think that harassing developers into doing their bidding is normal. Edit: Plus I played Forza Horizon 1 recently and just finished it. I can understand why people loved it still do to this day, but… there’s just so many other things wrong with it like the driving physics that make me love later Forza Horizon titles even more (even FH4).
I agree completely with what your saying. I feel people rather not spend the money and get the opinion from someone else's playthrough and have the idea like everyone else. Because its easier and they choose to focus on such minute things than seeing the bigger picture. I really feel nowadays people should play someone of this disliked games because maybe it will become your favorite game that even beats out your childhood game. Its just sad people cant grow and admit how beautifully crafted these games are. Thank you for the great video sir. You deserve so much more attention because of how well you've crafted your videos keep it up.
A lot of gamers are aggy asf. If a game isn't Mario, Zelda, Fall Guys, GTA, Pokemon, Final Fantasy, Minecraft, NBA2K, Madden, WWE, or Roblox then it's trash that isn't worth their time. I for the life of me never understood why most of them seem to hate tf out of other kart racing games whether they're good or bad. Anytime a kart racer gets announced, it's bashed for simply just existing. Same thing when it comes to platform fighters. I've also been noticing how weird Splatoon fans and Pokemon fans were acting towards PalWorld and Foamstars. It's like people have hard time understanding why some people would wanna play games that aren't super popular. They can't fathom why someone in their right mind would wanna play Disney Speedstorm, Nickelodeon All-Star 2, and MultiVersus. It boggles their minds for some reason lmfao. It really needs to be studied how bothered Fall Guys fans are because there's people who like Stumble Guys.
not entirely true, even those communities you listed are needlessly negative. take zelda for example: theres this thing called "the zelda cycle" where when a new game comes out, its loved by everyone for about a year, and then after that year's up people instantly make a 180 and say it always sucked, and that the last one was better. and then when the next game comes out, its suddenly good again and deemed "an underrated game". its draining.
As someone that really enjoyed Cyberpunk 2077 since launch and on the xbox one (it was buggy as hell but definetely a good game) I completely agree with most of what you said. Furthermore because I see myself as a really complacent guy and often avoid negativity. But accepting everything just because hate and negativity is bad is a bit naive, or just plain desilusional. Ignoring the problem for so long just made things worse. For Halo infinite, 343 ignored everything and deserved every ounce of criticism, showing that problems sometimes go beyond the game (bad management and bad direction for years) and if it doesn't get called out, things get worse.
I agree here. It seems very rare that we see anything positive said in this space anymore and when it is, it gets drowned out. Thanks @franklygaming for another great video.
I grew up with the PS2 and PS3 era of gaming. I will always hold the games from those times in the highest regard and I still think they were just better experieces overall. I'm not ignorant, I did play modern games too and a few of them I consider fantastic but generally I just don't have the same feeling for them as old games, no matter how hard I'm trying to remove the nostalgia glasses. I guess it may be true that they are just made to appeal to a new generation which likes different things. I should probably just accept that my generation's time has passed and I can't adapt to new things.
games are the best they've ever been. And we have greater and greater access to older games as well in the way of remasters, remakes, and modern compilations-- Plus, an incredible blossoming of indie games like never before---I cannot keep up with all the games i want to play--I don't understand how people have the time and energy to complain. Granted, the original Halo trilogy totally outshines any later Halos (and that's been true for years), and its also true for some IPs, but by in large, there are so many damn good games, its unreal and amazing.
Here 'cause of the upcoming Dragon Age game lmao. I love the old games. But if I see an upcoming sequel, knowing that it's different and seeing that but I think to myself ''I don't hate this''; Then I don't hate it, and I'm tired of people telling me I'm supposed to.
@@JustKelso1993 Two days ago somebody spammed NSFW pics on the Veilguard discord to ''punish people who like the game''. This is getting ridiculous. Folks can't seem to accept that not everybody shares their opinion.
@@ferrykeizer4911 Gamers are absolutely toxic and latch on to anything they consider 'woke'....other than Baldurs Gate of course. Double standards annoy me.
"Games used to be better" is often misunderstood. It's not about how they were mechanically/technically/visually. But the general feel. Back in the day you had games that looked like ass but everyone playing them could feel the love devs put into making them. They worked out of the box without day 1 patch or "it will be good half/1 year from now when it's actually finished". Games shipped when they were as ready as they could be. And don't even get me started on monetisation back than vs now. And that's a huge problem people have with gaming nowdays. Hades or darkest dungeon are amazing modern examples of games that have the "good old games" vibe to them. With some titles you can tell its a labour of love and passion and with some you can tell its a product made by people who don't care. And we used to get more of the first kind even 10 years ago compared to now. Its complicated the same way "keep politics out of games" is. Its not that politics were never in the games or a part of gaming. Because they were. And people love it in some games. But older titles gave you info and trusted you can figure it out on your own. Games now often beat you over the head with the message. Honestly i blame social media for that. Ever since stuff like twitter x = bad, if you disagree f you, became way more common. A lot of gamers aren't more negative they just seen better times and have expectations based on that. To put it simply you can play an asset flip survival game or subnautica. Someone who never experienced subnautica might honestly thing the asset flip is a good game. And someone who plaid subnautica will look at the asset flip and say its dogpop. You could say its wisdom gained with experience. Most of the real negativity and hate actually comes from the gaming media. They point out useless shit and pretend gamers actually care about that for clicks. I call it antimarketing because it making both gamers and devs miserable in the process. Damn didn't expect to write a wall of text but whatever maybe someone will find this interesting or entertaining to read.
What frustrates me is that people act as if the quality of a story is not affected by the very nature of its political themes, as if no political theme is more controversial than others-people won't have a knee-jerk reaction because a game is about World War I, but will rightly scoff at a game whose political theme is about how open relationships are good and monogamy is bad.
Well said. There's a lot to be positive about. There are loads of 'in franchise' problems that I will back behind - series that have gone one direction that puts off people who originally loved it off, which is a shame. But there are new and brilliant experiences to discover - and assuming you accept not everything is 'designed just for you' there's never been a better time to get into the genre.
Back in school around 2005/2006 no one had a pc, I didnt know a single person in a school with a pc, everyone had a console, gaming was great on the pc, it was a limited community and i never experienced a ounce of toxicity, 10 years later there isnt a kid without a pc, mainstream has killed the gaming community, the same as mainstream kills everything else.
Great video, couldn't agree more with you. Despite all the stupid shit many publishers/devs are doing we still get more amazing content than ever nowadays. When life is rough and you are depressed or just in a bad state of mind everything will suck. If you open your eyes and start focusing on the good things in life the world can be really bright and colorful. Sad that we forget that too often. I for sure do forget it more than I like. I wish you all the best guys :)
A pro tip for preventing depressed thoughts and moods: Don't watch the news. News media is always exaggerated and biased, it's designed to play with our minds. Pro Tip Nr. 2: delete Twitter/Facebook/Instagram or any other social media site, where people are constantly lying about their "perfect" lives. Pro tip Nr 3: Take a break. Switch off your phone or PC, disconnect, run into the forest for a day or travel somewhere quiet for a weekend, alone or with your best friend, which must not be epensive. Extreme Tip: use a simple flip phone from time to time and just observe the world around you, instead of doom scrolling social media or news. I made those observations by myself and my mood is much better, since i do this. I feel as if a weight has been lifted
My experience with the hoyoverse and gacha community is horrendous. People only want what THEY want, but the devs are doing their best. Also, their games are free and Genshin Impact is the best free game, best quality. People are just so greedy
man you're so right! every time I try to say I like something like kingdom hearts and that I don't really like nintendo games or something like elden ring, I get dude bro gatekeepers telling me I'm not real gamer or whatever. Or if I don't 100% complete a game, that I didn't really beat it so how could I have truly enjoyed it. like apparently people didn't like the new kingdom hearts game but I did. or how no one likes the new pokemon games or the designs, but I do. and don't even get me started about those damn trees that people whined about for so long! or how people whined for a classic sonic game, they make sonic mania, and then suddenly people hate it??? like I know they might be just the loud minority, but I can't help also wondering why people are suddenly so hateful towards games that are genuinely fine. it's so baffling to me. honestly I wanna here more from the positive majority. I wanna here more from people who liked the games and why. it gets real depressing when all you hear about games that you're interested in is that they're all "mid" or "bad" and I wonder who is saying these things? like what kind of gamer are they that they didn't like it? especially coming from game journalists. I haven't even gotten to try the new saints row and people are already saying it sucks. I saw someone on tiktok saying they enjoyed it and the comments were filled with "not as good as saints row 2!" or "it's been shit since 2". like I haven't even gotten to play yet and already people are trying to tell people what to think and how to feel before anyone has gotten to touch it. or how ff7 remake was an AMAZING game to me, but then I see people complaining that it's "too short" and that square is "ripping people off" by splitting it into chapters. like I feel like people play stuff purposefully looking for problems instead of just letting the game be what it is. for some reason they expect every game to be like the second coming of christ or something like when they were a child. when they got super mario 64 for christmas and it was magical. like you gotta realize that you grew up and when you're an adult with money and you can just buy games whenever, it's no longer a magical once a year thing anymore. that's why I'm not gonna listen to anyone anymore about anything and I'm just gonna play whatever I want!
I always think of Dolores from Westworld when I come across topics such as these. Her line, "Some people choose to see the ugliness in this world, the disarray. I choose to see the beauty", is something I'm trying to incorporate as one of my philosophies.
I think one of the big issues is most people have difficulty separating what they ACTUALLY feel and want from the way in which they EXPRESS it. They just don't have a developed self-reflective capacity. So they can't or don't examine their own behaviour and consider what it means and what effect it has. So, in the average hyper-negative reddit poster's mind, there's possibly a fairly reasonable feeling and intent. They've just bought a game, it's not the product that they believe was sold to them, and they are dissatisfied. They want this problem rectified, and they wish that game developers and publishers would do better. But what comes out of that person (and what is exponentially amplified in the public space) is something ENTIRELY different: something highly emotive, judgemental, absolutist, and personalised. And even abusive. Because in that moment, they are probably mad. But the nature of asynchronous communication is that the replies will come AFTER that initial angry feeling has passed. AND SO, the person doesn't go back and reread their original post. They just see all of the CRITICISMS they are receiving and they cannot comprehend how people are missing the point! It's like being at a restaurant and finding a hair in your soup, and so you slap the waiter across his face. And when you inevitably end up in court for assault, you protest to the judge: "Are we supposed to accept low quality product and services?!!!" But obviously, that's NOT the problem. It was the expression, and that completely HIJACKED any opportunity for something reasonable and productive. I see that happening constantly online. For example, we can't productively discuss the negative implications of the "Launch First, Patch Later" mentality, because every time someone makes a thread about it, it's emotive, judgemental etc. It ceases to be about the state of the industry and how projects and businesses are managed, and most importantly: how employees and contractors are treated. Instead it becomes an attack on those people PERSONALLY, for being "lazy, duplicitous, deceitful and even conspiratorial" against gamers. This is why you can't discuss anything on the internet anymore. And this is why gaming discourse has become so hypernegative.
Micro transactions ruined getting the entire game when you spent 60 bucks, now every game is 1/2 available with the 60 and then you have to pay for the rest of the game that’s already done. Love your videos either way
Agree. U want to blow money on cosmetic skins cool but using it to lock half the game content and turn it into pay for play on a game u just blew $60 on is bs. It also makes the multiplayer into who has more money. It ruins it and keeps people away from enjoying the game. I appreciate this guy standing up for Cyberpunk 2077 but his take on microtransactions is dead wrong.
His point basically seems to be that (1) locking core content behind microtransactions is bad, and (2) locking optional content behind microtransactions is a reasonable way to raise money to fund the production of more content. You guys seem in agreement about #1. How do you feel about #2?
@@irrevenant3 I said how I feel about coametic cosmetic items to support the game. However all I heard him say was that he supports microtransactions, that people need to stop being so negative and to allow poor ea to keep bending over the gamers in to make their $ in peace. Which is total bs. If he is against pay to play + content locking microtransactions then we are in agreement but I didn't hear him say that.
@@chrischrz6064 There is older video in this channel, where he dives deeper about microtransactions. What I VERY disagreed (you can see in that comment section) that "each person is responsible for their choices". By making the content addictive, exploiting mental health issues (20% of USA grown ups it will have at 1 point in their life).
@@chrischrz6064 His position seems to be a bit more nuanced than I originally thought and I get the impression he's gone into it more in other videos. What he said in this one (among other things) is: _"What about the fact that now these insanely massive and expensive triple AAA games can finally be funded by the microtransactions in the multiplayer offering? And why do we ignore the great examples of it too? Like Valorant, where everything you buy is purely cosmetic and doesn’t affect gameplay."_ At the very least that suggests he considers microtransactions for non-cosmetic content as *not* a great example of microtransactions. Personally I think it depends. He makes a reasonable general point that microtransactions are an effective way to fund extra content for the games we love. Stuff that would otherwise be a DLC, or not made at all. As far as I can tell very few people are absolutely opposed to microtransactions under all circumstances, period - the question/disagreement is mostly over what it is reasonable to charge microtransactions *for.* My personal threshold is generally that I don't want or expect to pay microtransactions for something that should've been included when I bought the core game. There's obviously some subjectivity to that, and everyone's going to draw that line in a slightly different place. Microtransactions aren't my favourite thing but I think they're probably not unreasonable for cosmetic content, or even for *extra* gameplay content that's not core to the game like bonus quests, new equipment etc. Note that I'm mostly thinking of singleplayer games here - I'd be much less forgiving of microtransaction access to things like additional equipment in a competitive game.
I think the problem with modern games for me is that releases are few and very far between outside of studios like capcom and fromsoft, games take 5-10 years to make while back then it took 5 years to make an entire trilogy of games hell gta trilogy were released in just 4 years, graphics and high production value are very nice but they take WAY longer to make.
It's been bad this year as well. I mean Spider-Man 2 fans hated on Baldur's Gate 3 for winning an award. I love both of those games and they're great. What tops it for me is trailers of games coming out and I see more complaining. I used to remember when people would hype games. Silent Hill 2, GTA 6, Dragon Ball Sparking Zero. All these trailers of games we wont be getting anytime soon and people nitpick and shit on the developers who put in way to much time than they're getting paid. Its disconcerting to see so much negativity in a community that thrives on being transported to a new world, or experiencing a persons story through ones eyes. Bring the love back to gaming.
I agree I should be more positive. My only issue with things today is empty promises, long roadmaps, and slow content roll out, why cant I just have everything day one.
Risk averse corporations who care more about squeezing every last cent from your wallet, rather than being passionate about putting out an awesome product and making their customer base happy.
Bro I’m having the time of my life playing games on my PS5. Never owned a proper home console until now and playing on a TV is so awesome and I’m loving every moment of it. I’ve been a PC gamer all my life and had lost interest in playing games until I bought a PS5 on a whim. Now I’m playing almost 1-2 hours everyday after work. And all I see on TH-cam is negativity regarding how games are not what used to be or how this generation is so boring. I feel sad for them.
So how did you like the playstation portal selling well after the ps vita was abandoned by sony? Playstation portal will pick up where the ps vita left off thanks to Sony 😂😂😂😂
Im somewhere in the middle ground, i think devs became exploitative but the gamers also became more hateful. The gaming industry is still better than ever before nowadays because of the choice range, more games get localized and more developers make different games that are unique. My first games were minecraft, rise of the tomb raider and dark souls 3 and even tho im not very excited for the newest aaa release anymore, i enjoy the amount of choice there is out there.
No gamers aren't. the gaming industry going corporate is the biggest issue and hiring new writers that don't care about previous created lore and story retconing everything for there own creations or putting in real world political bias in there games lecturing gamers is the second biggest issue. New game creators have no respect for what they work on and talk trash to players that dare criticize there games
I think a lot of the issue is social media overhype. Games get hyped to the point where nothing could ever live up to those standards. I turned 40 this year, I remember getting the gold Zelda for NES, Super Mario, Duck Hunt etc. A game came out you knew next to nothing about it, there was no google or youtube to tell you why you should hate a game, and lets be real, thats almost all it is, even universally loved games have more negative articles than positive. 2077 is one of the biggest examples ever, Ive stated that it was a great game since its release, and that its only gotten better and Ive caught so much flack from people who've never even played it because of what they read. And yeah, there are bad games sometimes too, but thats always been the case, thats what steam return is for~ An aside, I wish I had found your channel sooner, no clickbait titles, no hate mongering, I dig it man, keep up the good work!
One day they'll all be saying how they missed the 'og days when games were good' claiming Valorant and Cyberpunk were the golden age of gaming. I'm old enough to have seen it repeat itself several times over now. There were rules to old-internet. A lot actually, but one important to the topic of this video. Never read the comments. I think that's what's changed. It's easier to find comments and in a lot of ways fan response is the most important part of ad campaigns. We've given too much power to the reactionary few- we've lost the disconnect between art and the artist.
Back in the day if a bad game came out, or a hyped-game wasn't quite up to the hype, people would talk about it for a little while and then it would fall out of the collective consciousness. Hell, if you go back a little further than that (to 8 or 16 bit days) no one even really talked about bad games at all. I kinda remember as a Nintendo Power kind growing into the realization that a Nintendo game even COULD be bad. But in the last decade games being bad is such a huge part of the discussion and culture around games. It's not entirely a bad thing! It has it's own fun, and it assists in the constant striving towards improvement. But I think it's one of (many) contributing factors to the idea that games are worse now. The past isn't just seen through rose colored glasses when looking back now. In a lot of ways, we were wearing them back then, too.
I disagree with nearly every video you make... but I truly respect your different point of view and genuine affection you have for gaming However 1. It's very hard to be told that "I've changed" and "I'm the one at fault" (or that the game Cyberpunk was "always" good); when the game couldn't even run on my PS4. After 3 hard crashes, one that deleted my save, and multiple T-poses at critical moments, I refunded the game for being BROKEN. My negativity was not being affected by hate mobs.. I literally could not play the bloody game hence why I have my hatred for the broken promise that CD Project Red told me "it will be ready". If I ordered a pizza and you gave me catnip.... I have a right to be mad at the pizza boy. Which brings me to: 2. Modern gaming. I disagree that gamers are at fault. I honestly think it's the over-promising and hyped up media that's the problem. For every "Elden Ring", "It takes two"; and "Prey", there is a Saints Row Remake, Battlefield 2042 and Diablo Immortal. When companies say they will support a game like BIOWARE's Anthem or talk about how their game is "truly ground-breaking" and or "we are listening to players", there is a huge chance they are lying through their teeth... and gamers... hell human beings in general hate that corpo speak. The fact that modern day twitter/social media has made it possible to hear corpo speak and youtuber hot-takes more often, creates groups dynamics for conflict 3. Honestly I had more but.... like what you said in the video we need to "better". I enjoy how you talk about video games with your calming tone of voice, it makes video game topic seem a lot more surreal and deeper. I subbed and look forward to more Cyberpunk or video game related content. It truly is an amazing how one anime managed to revive love for a single game
Devs personally attack me because of who I voted for, that is why I'm considered "toxic", because I resent being attacked by them. Direct your complaints to the devs, not gamers.
I feel like people cling way to hard onto older games not because they were good (bc lets be honest most of the time they weren't) but because they were happier during that time and associate the older games with how they felt and now that they dont feel the same they look at every game looking for a feeling that they want instead of a fun experience in another world
That is false. I am rather young myself, player newer games first, had some fun, but nothing too special with a few exceptions, then I played some older games, way more fun, much more memorable. New games suck more and more because while they look better, they are now almost always lacking in soul. And there are many other reasons, gameplay is often not good, but designed to make you play a lot and spend money. And political stuff is pushed because of ESG, Blackrock and such companies.
@@haydencarn8737 You're gonna have to be much more specific if you want to have a point: what new games are you talking about, what old games are you talking about and actually bother to define what is the "soul" of a videogame, let's see if you actually have a personal definition instead of using it as a buzzword.
@@katzea.a7880 LOL, sure. Exhibit A: Right now, I am playing the old Saints Row games. It's fun, weird, hilarious, and utterly over the top. I have also gotten a chance to play the new one, and let me put it like this, the game could have had no bugs at all, and I would have still hated it. It turned from this over-the-top Jakuza/Mafia-style madhouse kind of game, into just another hipster style overly color-saturated example of why modern games often (Not always) suck ass. The political s__t that was forced into it also did not help it. And I would make another note, Saints Row the old games are quite diverse, and it's wonderful because it's not forced and it's not based on things like ESG, DEI, and such. That is no longer the case, the characters feel like literal checked-off boxes on a board. I could go on, but that would be too much of a rant, so next game. Exhibit B: Watchdogs, watchdogs had its flaws, but it was a very cool setting, cool style, and cool game. Of course, part two was turned into another hipster hey hey California kind of game... And Legion is not even worth mentioning. The whole tone that made the first game so special is gone. And now it feels utterly soulless with its oversaturated colors and check-box characters. Exhibit C: Homeworld. The newest Homeworld game has all the depth taken from it, it feels like it was designed with demented babies in mind instead of fans who enjoyed the old games. Meaning, all the previous ones. The only good thing about it is the new rouge lite mode, but even that lacks in depth. Exhibit D: Tomb Raider. Old games, and to some extent even the remakes, are fun, tense at times, with good puzzles and very cool places. Now apparently Lara has turned from a sassy explorer who is often not concerned about consequences into a self-loathing woman who is just "Trying to do the right thing" if you play the old game's remake there was a disclaimer about how "Incorrect the game is, and how the devs don't support it's ideas." It's like a fucking kindergarten. And just to make this clear, I could go on for hours more about live service, how games like D2 could have been great, but are now honestly vile, and how sadly everything seems to be going toward f__king fortnite these days and even if it does not "consultant" companies from the west are trying to push political bullshit into every single game AND EXPECT TO BE PAID 7, MILLION dollars for ruining your game... Yeah, they tried that with the Chinese dev makes one of the few games that I am looking forward to, the Black Myth one. Anyhow, Yeah, there are a TON of reasons to dislike and at times even hate modern gaming, saying otherwise is literally just falling for the BS of the media which is trying to tell you "EVERYTHING IS FINE, JUST CONSUME PRODUCT!!!". Anyhow, almost everything in the AAA scene is just filled with quotas, profit margins, live-service, virtue signalling and some such nonsense now. People, are sick of it, and for good reason. I hope, I got my point across.
There is a certain pattern here.. I think you just don’t like games that are more progressive. Exhibit A: Your main argument for the first two games was that they turned it “into another hipster game”, this is not a flaw with the game and more of a flaw with yourself. Exhibit B: The saints row example is you just hating on a game that pretty much everyone dislikes, just because there Is a bad game now doesn’t mean all the games before were good. Exhibit C: I (and many others) think watchdogs 2 is an amazing game and pretty much expanded on every system of the first. not much more to be said. The exhibit bit got stale a while ago so I’ll wrap this up pretty quick. From my limited knowledge of you it seems like you don’t know what a “Good” and “Bad” game looks like. The only “proof” you’ve brought to the table is saying “Hipster bad, new women bad” also that whole “stop pushing your political views into our media!” Thing doesn’t apply when your whole review is you pushing your politics.
At first I wanted to disagree, but I took a second to clear my mind, watched this with an open perspective. And I think you might be right. Honestly now IS a great time to play games, cause not only do you have the modern games, but everything released before now, more accessible than ever before. Nice video man
bro your backlog is dope, bless your content. honestly this isnt said enough, gamers are so negative. so many games are thrown away because of a bit of BS and most of these games are sick when i play them. these games we're super nostalgic for are great, but they suck y'know? (i mean they dont suck but our standards used to be WAY lower) bioshock still holds up but to today standards it isn't a phenomenal experience.
Exactly, the point of games is to have fun there are a ton of games I love that are hated for example I LOVE Pokemon Scarlet, I don't give 2 shits about the graphics or the bugs or anything, what matters is that I had a blast playing it, the characters, the story, the open world with all the pokemon running around made the world feel so alive, after i finished the game with that phenomenal climax i couldn't stop thinking about I absolutely love that game and I don't care who knows and i absolutely don't think that modern pokemon suck, these people are just mad that they lost the feeling they had as kids, pokemon is still going strong and 100% deserves to, this video helps cuz I do love modern gaming and think all the poeple saying its bad need to shut up, i do think people should make more videos like this pushing back on negativity so thanks
I still disagree my man. I wish I didn't because it would mean the AAA gaming arena was in a better place, but it simply isn't. Yes, graphics are better and 60+ FPS is the norm. There are way, way more choices, and many of them are free. Heck, including mobile the majority of them are, but that doesn't mean better. I've seen game after game ruined by microtransactions that are put in to stop padded out gameplay that was also inserted to slow progress, or allow other players to progress for $500-+/m, along with 5 hours+ per day of game time...to remain in the top 25k or so players in a top 1k Aliiance/Guild. I see "Gattlepasses being removed for for micro/macrotransactions, where 2-3 new characters are release monthly for $50 a pop, which then require another $150 in purchases to make them usable at a tolerable level. I see franchises I love shelved because the devs screw up with awful marketing strategies which result in the game only making 200 million or so after expenses. I see games stuck in development hell while team members scream at their fans on Twitter as the inherently change the nature of previous characters in the franchise just to be called a racist online, even though my father was from Brazil and my mother was born to an 1rst gen Irish immigrant and a 1rst gen wandering Czech Gypsy who met her husband while he was serving in the military in the 1950s. I watch about half of the games I used to love get smashed, like many of my favorite literature, television and movie genres by _common sensibilities in turn ruining the games by removing the heores journey for the fairer sex and making the men doofuses. I see self censoring at every turn, and though it does have it's place, there are numerous games/books/and other media where it simply doesn't. These are power fantasies in _most_ cases and needn't be, no *should not* be castrated to appease the 2% of the population that screams the loudest on Twitter and Facebook who also happen to buy the games. In that sense, games have gotten far worse. When _"Sexy women"_ equals bad for no other reason than because men find them attractive there is a problem. When an adult game can't have someone call another person a fat f#%& during an argument, there's an issue. When people are hired to design/write media based on sex as opposed to merit there is a problem (I have no issue with women being cast to play women, queer being cast to play queer, hispanic being cast to play hispanic etc; while at the same time if there is an English actor who looks Middle Eastern and nails a part I have no problem with them getting a role playing an Arab Muslim either...I guess it's called acting?). That's where i see the biggest problems in gaming, besides micros/macros in full price games, live service or not, because years ago we could still play 64 v 64 because thousands of people hosted or rented their own servers. We didn't need the devs to host it for us, so all those cool outfits and gun skins were earned in fricken game, never mind all the games that are basically pay to win now, or worse, single player with tons of fluff to sell XP boosters, bonus content that is already in the flippin game, or whatever other shady crap they decide to pull that release. Now I don't believe Cyberpunk falls into any of those categories, at least not on PC, and it never did. Oh, I also listened to an interview from about 3 years ago where Adam said that NPC were going to have their own routines, though they would not all be unique as it would be impossible for current gaming hardware to handle it and they wanted the game out before 2077. W were told that our decisions would drastically affect the world, that there would be classes and a plethora of other things. Apparently all that changed when Keanu Reeves came aboard though, and whether that was for better or worse we'll never know. In their defense, though they held up the living breathing world until the last year, they seemed to come clean on just about everything else except base console optimization. We also had numerous things that were inferred, like vehicle fighting being a feature, a sub/cartway system, a longer game the TW3 which was also scrapped when KR came on with the excuse that too many people didn't see all the things in TW3 with more than half not finishing (or something like that) so they wanted to keep the main story line to 30-40 hours, adding "Gigs", "Hustles" and a handful of side missions to make up for it. I believe it was an excuse because it's my understanding that once Reeves signed on Silverhand went from a minor NPC to the focal point of the game outside of the main charactrer. Though that may have made the main quest, along with the fleshed out side quests better, I'm pretty damn sure if they hadn't had to ditch 3 years worth of story, instead having worked on the same game, with Keanu from the start, the game would have undoubtedly had been a better experience. Just like I'm sure that had they foregone the last gen consoles we would have gotten a much more polished experience, and probably be waiting or playing the 2nd expansion right now. Both of those things bug me a bit because it shows a lack of honesty for literally zero good reason. Still that said, it was far and away the best game I played in 2020, and possibly the best I've played this year, though more time, interactions and quests with the main NPC's would have been great. having them interact with one another would have been fantastic. Instead, it felt like a bunch of self contained stories, like an anthology series where each week there is a new adventure that ahs little to do with what happened the previous week. Though I do agree it was an RPG with a great story, choice and cosequence mattered very little for the majority of the game. There were rarely numerous ways to go about accomplishing goals ala Deus Ex or Hitman, never mind the options present in CRPG's, or even action RPG's like TW3 or DA: Inquisition (Though I felt the story in CP 2077 was far better). As for bugs, I've played at least a dozen games last year that were buggier than CP 2077, and recently both God of War and Spiderman remastered crashed my PC 2 or 3 times per session, where as CP 2077 crashed maybe twice? in about 600 hours, with a polish *AT LAUNCH* to look like a coding masterpiece when compared to Oblivion and Skyrim. My _Game breaking"_ bugs consisted of putting a hat on and ending up with longer hair in the back. My hair disappearing in mirrors, cars spawning on top of each other when I jumped to summon a different vehicle after just calling the wrong one; basically really, really minor shit. I know other people had some serious issues, and like I said, it *NEVER* should have been released for last gen consoles save the Xbox One. Horrid decision. SO swinging back to the main topic, is gaming worse? The writing and stories are, yes. 2007-2016 were so great because we had the creativity of _"System Shock,"_ _"Dues Ex,"_ "Baldur's Gate,"_ and _"Fallout 2"_ mixed with modern graphics and all that entails. Now, even worse than micros, we have titles being written for the same group of people that killed the Western Comic book industry, wrecked the Star Wars and Star Trek franchises while telling the consumers how toxic they are. If a writer, producer or dev speaks out they're labled and summarily fired. Now CDPR hasn't fallen victim to this, nor has Rockstar (yet) or Lariam as well as a ton of other AA 1/2 studios, and I hope to heck they don't. I just want talented people to be able to make what they want to the best of their ability. If we can get back to that, though I'm sure I will still despise the message in a lot of games (which is fine, no one can please everyone), I'll have just as many whose message or lack-there-of I can engross myself in. I'd much rather have 3 more studios like CDPR, decade old Bioware, or Eidos in that regard than 25 more EA's and Disney's (well, whatever rules Disney jams down publisher "B's" throats as part of the deal to make a game. Devs shouldn't be afraid they're going to get cancelled for putting things in a game to make it better just because it offends the wrong group of people, and until we get over that, I can't see getting back to a true gaming golden age for a while. That definitely isn't me changing, it's the people making/writing the games. ei When the women in a game have to be clayfaced to make them less attractive than the person they hire as the model because she is too attractive (think Jayde Rossi in M.E. Andromeda; yeah, those faces are close) we need to take a serious look at what the heck we are doing and knock it off.
The gaming industry for better or worse is making great games. They just need to ease down on releasing games that are unfinished, buggy, and broken and missing features that are not presence in the game.
Y'know o really appreciate your video, been so hyped with many games coming out. However every time i check them out i see so many of the same titled videos, "X game is trash." Yeah i like dragon age, assassin's creed, star wars, fable, since those are what i grew up on. I was always at my favorite GameStop because i was checking out new and old games, or talking to the people working there about upcoming dlc or games and what they thought. GameStop was my TH-cam/Reddit before i got linked in. I loved it and made my hobby fun. Once i grew up and signed up for all those social medias, i got overwhelmed and took on a persona that wasn't me. For years and i mean years i was a angry neckbeard nerd that hated everything. Fast forward to these last couple years, ive given up that hate but kept that caution that has saved me more time and money with the mindset that everyone has been saying for years, "dont like it, move on." I love that fact that ive detached myself from most social media and just go off my gut. So yeah, i will be grabbing dragon age, assassin's Creed, star wars, pokemon, fable, etc because i love them and have been invested in them for so long i want to see what they come up with next. Hate on me, all you want. Like his video said am going to be having a grand old time enjoying myself. Thanks again for the video, you got yourself a new sub from me.
@@caspy-fn People back in the early 80's didn't have internet to enrage about E.T. and other shitty games. Did the gaming industry got away from it? Did you know what happened in 1983?
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another great video myself
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@@naanless wow yet another banger compliment mr me
@@naanless he really is such a cool guy
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This is why I've been distancing myself from social media, people ruin my love for everything, I remember finishing the game Xenoblade Chronicles 2, and going online to see what other people thought of the game, I personally loved it, but as soon as I went online, all I saw was hate and malice towards the game, it instantly soured my mood
But is that really a problem with other people? For example, I really disliked Fallout 4, and I'll openly discuss that with other fans that either dislike it themselves or are open to talking about its pros and cons. I don't think I'm wrong for expressing that. The major difference is in whether somebody that hates the game is simply expressing that, or actively attacking those that do like the game. In my opinion, only the latter is wrong. Not being able to express hate for anything at all is as toxic as only hating things.
Why do people hate everything?
They can't stop complaining, and the only thing so many of these disgusting toxic people love more is when you talk against them and they have a chance to be toxic and shut you down.
These are miserable people and nothing is ever good enough for them.
@@LunamrathP Yes it is actually people nowadays are more than critics.
Hating things is a past time people have become disgusting cancer.
@@cosmicabyss7358 I think that's a bad mindset. For one, you should never allow the opinions of others to affect your feelings towards something you like. I love plenty of things that people hate. Just as well, you shouldn't assume. Sure, some people hate just to hate, but that's their problem. Other's may have very valid reasons, and they're entitled to those feelings. All of this of course, with the same caveat as I stated originally. You can criticize all you want as long as you don't act unkind towards those that like something you don't.
@@LunamrathP Shut up toxic you've got nothing to say.
Gamers fell into the Suicide Squad raging bait, because *they expected* Rocksteady to create a game as good as or better than their beloved Arkham Trilogy.
They also trashing Skull and Bones because *they expected* Ubisoft to create a game as good as or better than AC: Black Flag.
What game they AREN´T hatting? Helldivers 2, because *they expected* Arrowhead to create a game as good as or better than PS3 Helldivers, and they got their wish.
Is everything about "Expectations", and TH-camrs, the outraging media, and some toxic gamers, are rage-baiting over it until the algorithm moves somewhere else: One day, they are trashing FFVI Rebirth ending, and the next day they are opening Pokemon cards and the another they are "raging" about the new Baldur's Gate update. They are surfing towards the algorithm and they won't stop it, and gamers are catching that killer wave full of toxic waste.
Holy shit yea you right on the Helldivers 2 lol
Toxic gamers hate being called toxic and will do anything to defend themselves
because they don't they are toxic ppl themselves and act in a lot of self-denial and the internet is partly to blame and lack of parenting as well because they grew up becoming more and more self-entitled and overly entitled, they don't appreciate the little things like a game being able to be fully-developed and released or the little funny moments and enjoyable experiences
All I see on youtube nowdays involving gaming is mostly negativity, nitpicking, drama and sometimes just pure hate. It’s sad that most people here on youtube are willing to make a whole video about picking apart a game instead of talking about a game they love with their whole being. This negativity is just so damn toxic.
Fr, do we really need 40 videos titled "NEW "insert popular game here" UPDATE RUINED!!! THIS GAME!"
Sadly too many channels just parrot what the general internet thinks with no opinion of their own even if they enjoyed a game they'll just give it a mixed review if the internet hates it
Just because you watched this video doesn’t mean you cant be critical of games, gamers are often sold incomplete products, malfunctioning products, manipulative expensive monetized products. No other consumer base takes it up the butt like gamers do voluntarily
@e33d90 What a crybaby you are. Have fun malding over this video kid hahaha
@@e33d90The only people who think that genuinely don’t have any hobby besides gaming
@@lightskinnedlarry728 it’s not even clear what you mean
I totally agree, some people on the internet are WAY WAY too negative, they treat the internet like a therapy office and bum everyone out.
It really gets under my skin. Every single gaming trailer all the comments just negative, tearing the games down. Why? I truly dont understand. Why not just be positive and if you dont like a game move on.
People just take a joy in destruction. They got taught by Angry Video Game Nerd and Angry Joe to basically hate every game that isn't 100/100 in it's inception.
I like Baldur's Gate 3, but I've never enjoyed it the way I enjoyed Cyberpunk, and I've played both Divinity Original Sins 1/2, grew up playing final fantasy remakes. The game just doesn't have strong initial narrative like Cyberpunk, it takes ages to build up the pace to anything, and I'm still in crash site, doing some random walking in middle of nowhere, no clue what I'm doing or where to go.
Some people like to say "well you got choices, it's open ended", but there's no narration. At least game like Witcher 3 (which is probably one of the best Open RPGs, probably after Cyberpunk) you start really-really strongly with Geralt's personal story and walking with his mentor, even doing a small quest to hunt down griffin with him. That feels very tight story until much later where the game opens up and you've leveled up a bit. Then it starts to feel more open and gives you options to wander around... in which time I've lost interest and never finished W3... But I did finish Cyberpunk, 3 times over.
People just hate games, don't have any clue about the games they criticize, think some old game they've owned is a masterpiece or something, and any attempt to remake it would be fatal if it doesn't have 100/100 community approval. If there's even a chance of someone not liking lets say some side character becoming gay or something, the whole game is suddenly ruined, even you never cared about that character to begin with.
Same thing with Dumbledore being gay. Like I never assumed him any sexuality at all. He was just an old guy who was a bit weird and that's it. Now he is younger in new movie and turns out he loves some DUDE, like I don't care, I don't have to mimic his emotions and adapt them into myself... But I guess this is where the insecurity of these conservatives shine that don't want to change anything. I would assume they actually got pretty sad childhood and games were their only escape from it, and something in that remake idea triggers them. That's why they can't enjoy a gaming franchise with 10-20 year pause, because that franchise didn't shield them from losing a girlfriend, or wife deciding not to divorce, or parent dying.
It's just showing what everyone knows these people are, angry and insecure. Insecure about themselves and having desperate need to seek any sort of validation, but they can't do that out by some positive thinking. No they must be getting that from being "brave" and "fighting" about it, to prove their masculinity... and in doing so, only proving how weak they actually are.
I would say the roots are very primal and there's very little thinking behind it.
I love how people say things used to be better
Yeah because the wii bargain bin shovelware catalog was so much better
We didn't get a refund back then because twitter wasn't there to cancel devs
Fr people seem to be disappointed with everything nowadays and I don't see why, amazing games are coming out constantly. People are too focused on the companies and reviews and not their actual enjoyment of the game.
Facts, and thanks for watching!
I'll stop complaining when they top selling slot machines and start making games with real progression again
Because everyone is soft now. With most people given everything they need and want they expect gratification from everything and being butthurt is an entire personality trait.
@@ded2thaworld963 so people who don't want gambling and micro transactions shoved down their throat are just soft? I think you're soft in the head
@@afurinperil there are games that don't sell slot machines. Play those games. It's that simple.
Its trendy to hate everything in existence these days. Its annoying. If modern gamers hate games so much why do they keep playing them? Why not crowdfund and develop their own?
- TH-camrs Are Too Negative Nowadays.
- The true agenda behind their op-vids. It's all for that clickbait algorithm cash grab. Coloring the opinion to appeal to the viewership count.
After I decide to be a normal people (aka casual ones) instead of a hardcore gamer who shat on every games that someone hates, my view to the game itself change a lot in positive ways and I'm not regretting about it at all.
What gets me is when they attack devs for not giving them exactly what THEY want like bruh that’s uncalled for
Bc nobody is telling em to stfu in real life
Grrrr!!! People criticise the game devs when they made bad games!!!
Personally attacking developers is not criticism 🤨@@caspy-fn
@@jimmypadgett4288 womp womp. Don't be a public figure if you cant handle backlash. Simple as.
@Caspy_YT 🤨 so you're justifying death threats and harassment. Got it.
This take is both well developed and beautifully articulated. I think it's exactly what's happening to Starfield right now. Thank you for making this video, subscribed.
Awesome video. Tbh, I never bought into the whole ‘modern gaming sucks’ bs, have always had a different view on it.
- ‘Bad’ games existed back then too. It’s just that they’re just completely forgotten about. But nowadays, you have many people eyeing new releases like vultures, and ready to make hour-long videos on stuff they don’t like. Every era has a mix of games, and to expect every single piece of media to be good is like saying the world should be a better place than it is, and that world peace should exist. It seems like games were better before because only the bed games are remembered from that era.
- Yeah, gamers complain about the dumbest things and are generally never satisfied. Too often, they feel just straight up self-entitled, complaining about old-school vs modern. Complaining there’s ‘too many, super long open-world games’ when no one’s forcing you to play them. Doesn’t help people are often scared to step out of their comfort zones and experience new things.
- People not realising maybe they’re just tired or burnt out of games (video titled “Games Aren’t Fun Anymore” by Foekoe Gaming perfectly goes over this). Maybe it’s time to try out a different genre of games, or a different hobby altogether.
- Opinions and the Internet go together as well as polar bears and the Sahara Desert. It’s baffling how people can’t like something somewhat unpopular without some clown telling them they’re wrong to like it because it’s ‘objectively flawed’. Expecting perfection in everything WILL leave you always disappointed
Ya I honestly think gaming is in such a good spot, tons of amazing stuff recently and coming, thanks for watching!
I agree
Every gaming generation has been a golden age in its own way. And people seriously need to realise fun is subjective and not some objective rigid standard
I'll say it again and again, People take games too damn seriously.
I’ve realized how bad it was when Callisto Protocol released, yeah it deserves some criticism but for people to just flat out call it trash makes me wonder if people are actually experiencing it themselves…
Ya nowadays I’m glad things like gamepass exist so games like high on life that don’t review great still can do awesome
Cyberpunk 2077 was that for me. To see those glaze the game to high hell, only to turn on that game the moment it launched horribly. This drove me over the edge because i was looking at how high-n-mighty people saying all the virtue signal of "don't preorder or "buy with your wallet" words, only to betray their words for cyberpunk. That point onwards, I loss all respect of these social media gamers, and decided never again will I bound myself to popular opinion.
... If you can't play it because it's too broken, of course you're not gonna like it.
Like, since when has it become normal for every game to have the baseline requirements of a NASA computer?
finally someone who thinks like me, i don't gonna lie some games deserved to be criticized for literally scamming people 60 or more bucks but seriously every game has to be bad? gamers only are holding the industry down, not helping it, i understand why the companies now want to approach the casual gamers or people who doesn't play much in their new games, they literally are karens that have too much free time to complain about anything.
I am sick of these gamers having complain and send death threats to these devolpers who just want to make a good game but has to delay it. And it also sucks that gamers tear other people down just because they like a certain game or has a opinion
I agree. I’ve been gaming every single day since 1985 and I can say with 100% certainty that gaming is better than its ever been. Maybe that just because I don’t play terrible games with predatory monetization but I’ve had nothing but one life changing experience after the other with every new game I play. This past year I played 15 games, 10 of which were 10/10 games and the rest were 9/10. I played games that got so much hate that you would think it was the worst game imaginable yet my 40 years of experience says it was 9/10 game. Games like Lords of the Fallen (2023), absolutely solid 9/10. Hell, I enjoyed Forspoken so much I did 3 consecutive playthroughs. It was THE best magic combat in any game, period. Gamers have just become overly nitpicky insufferable haters that enjoy hating on games more than they actually playing them. Ya know, maybe gaming just isn’t for them and they should try a new hobby.
People have become whiny little bitches. I grew up in the 90's I've played 1000's of games as well did work for one. I just see so many people bitching that games are bad. or movies are bad, when the truth is.. they do not even know what bad is.
As i always say, its now a rare ability to even play a game and not spend atleast 25% of the time with it just compaining. Being able to enjoy a videk game today is a challenge as people always try to convince you its bad.
I absolutely agreed
I'm someone who actually gets these negative reviews always stoned in my head while playing a game that's why at this point Im only checking recent/all reviews percentage just to know if it's good or bad and if the game is for me
I really feel bad for the indie Devs when they make 1 small mistake on the launch and their entire game gets ruined because of it.
Its like being positive isnt even allowed anymore💀
Exactly people hate when you dare to enjoy something they dont like
It's part and parcel of the Internet. Being negative and hateful online is just a pass-time for many, they come to feed off of the negativity. Every angry video game review channel knows that this is what gets the clicks and generates the revenue. Misery loves company I guess.
First positive video game content ive managed to find today. Thank you for that. There isnt nearly enough.
Im in my forties and ive been playing games for most of my life. We used to play for fun. I couldnt even begin to guess how many times ive played the first level of mario bros. Saving your progress wasnt even a thing then. You just started over from the beginning and did all the same shit again because it was fun. It was play. Nowadays its called "grinding" instead of "playing" and ive always absolutely hated that term. To my mind, if someone is playing but views it as work, their view of what theyre doing is fundamentally flawed. People have more now than they ever have but they act as if theyre unhappier than ever.
I hate the endless amounts of "is it worth trying this ftp game?" type videos on yt. Its fucking free. How could it possibly not be worth it? Do people think their free time they were gonna spend jerking off is so valuable it might not be worthwhile playing a FREE game? What the fuck even is that?
Gaming culture today makes me either sad or pissed off a lot of the time. Not pissed off with the games but with the players. Which is why i love the idea of games but usually end up being that weirdo playing mmo's by himself. Because i play for fun. Not to listen to everyone else in the guild whining like little bitches and acting like theyre doing the game a favour by logging in instead of it being the other way around.
Now everyone can go ahead and angrily start calling me a boomer and defending their shitty, entitled behaviour. Just be aware that its not original and it wont change my mind. The only thing that will is people acting less shitty about the thing we all love.
Ya it’s a big part of what the channel is about a more positive picture most of the time, thanks for watching!
The fact that a game is free doesn't imply that it could be worth it to play, not every free game is Mindustry or Moonring.
Agree. Let us Enjoy Playing without Complaining. Less Negative, More Positive.
I noticed that too
all my friends who game are so negative towards everything
everything is bad, companies are evil and they carry this negativity towards every encounter in the world
Its exhausting to deal with these kind of people and the majority in the internet seem to be doing the same thing.
Internet isnt becoming a tool to connect, it has become a tool to spread negativity.
I agree with you @1995krampe and the gaming community believes there is going to be the next big gaming crash just like 1983. Which is not. gaming from both triple AAA double AA and Indie have a bright future together and I’m ready for what’s next in the future
This is is so true, i was playing going under once on my xbox and i really enjoyed it but my friends became toxic about right after they saw the graphics, not even 5 minutes of gameplay. This is also true outside of gaming. People are generally so toxic and it's really hard to find someone tha isnt or not be yourself toxic. Technically even this comment is just complaining about society, just like you said, we got worse. Plus if this generetion keeps beeing toxic, so will the next one as they will propably copy us. Hopefully that's not true. Great video.
I've had to stop watching a lot of gaming content cause people genuinely just don't wanna enjoy shit it feels like
@@Artis_OTS ya it’s like people want games to fail lol, hopefully positivity will make a comeback
@@FranklyGamingthey took the piss on ffxvi but I had a blast. This lashout is killing enthusiasm so devs feel it and react accordingly, so we get REAL slop.
Good to see a positive video, everyone complains and it's toxic.
mad? 😂😂😂😂😂 go cry
@@epzo hahah thanks for proving this video's point negative entitled 12 year old gamer hahaha
Let's be realistic: COVID-19 increased the toxicity in videogames communities in a way so unimaginable that it seems you're all in hell. Both fanboys and (primarily) haters are just so fucking immature.
Social media is a cesspool of hate and what opinions people see the majority have, they let that dictate their opinion. That is why I deleted Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and the only thing that I still have left is reddit and TH-cam and I barely use it reddit.
You didn't even talk about how Indie games are going through the biggest boom they've ever had, they're are more people making more games now than ever, at higher quality too. What passes for Indie today would have been big budget only 10 years ago.
You really deserve credit for staying positive and appreciating games not for what they could be but for what they do well
And this is one of the main issues... This should really not be creditworthy, IMO.
@@CyberSpaceFilms valid
The reason why is that people are so obsessed with criticism despite the fact that not everyone is knowledgeable enough for their criticism to hold much weight. People think that just because people are upset that means their criticism is valid and that devs need to listen to them. People cant accept that developers usually know better than them, and they cant accept that what a game is amd how it plays is up to the people actually making the game.
I agree! I'm in my 40's and have had the privilege of watching gaming evolve over the years and wouldn't believe in my youth that games would've gotten to the place they are today. I do believe that criticism is necessary and do recognize the shitty things that some gaming companies engage in but it's also important to give credit to the amazing advancements and ingenuity that has been displayed by gaming developers over the years. What you pointed out in this video is what i tell my teenage son often. Gaming is something my whole family takes part in and has also allowed me to form friendships from across the globe. Great video and i love your content! I first became aware of your channel because of CP2077 but have stuck around because of your unique perspective and passion you have for gaming! Keep up the good work and I'll keep watching!👍
Really appreciate the kind words thanks for the support!
Even though I don't even have as much experience to gaming as much as you (started around 2016/2017), I completely agree that alot of people on the internet are completely overblowing the fact that gaming is in an extremely great spot at the moment. We can all complain about AAA but we have alot of indie games like Stray, A Plague Tale, Cult of the lamb, and much more. I would even argue that good AAA companies are starting to shine with games like Elden Ring and God of War. I used to think that I was "Late to gaming" but now I don't think anyone can be late to gaming.
@@fanofgaming8403 For sure! The best is yet to come!
@@FranklyGaming You're awesome and you'll never understand how much I apreciate your courage to stand up for what's right.
We can't let these toxic nasty people win.
@@cosmicabyss7358don't worry they won't, because they mostly just exist only on the internet if you actually go outside gaming is far better received and well seing today than it ever was
Wow...incredible, this is actually so true, and i want even tell of my experience how all of this became too much negativity.
When I played Borderlands 3, I was in ectasy, I really loved everything of the game and still play it, but people still bring negativity and really dumb argument, all because that game come out at EGS first instead of Steam, and the same to another game I love it and is Dead Island 2, my reviews is get harassed with clown badges indicate now sign of mocking and the funny votation to bring their discord to me.
But I learned to ignore them and move on, but in the same time, find a solution to fight them back without interacting with them, and is to say each time they give me a clown badge, I said they spend the money into a stranger for nothing and thank them for the badge and for the funny votation I said they put funny because what I said is true, and even reveal their toxicity.
Unfortunately, the toxicity and the negative have been spread even on movies, comic, and even tv shows, showing nothing is safe, and we need to do something and be ourselves and said our true feels, even is negative, you need to respect other people's opinion, even you don't like it, only like that, show you are not toxic but a human being and not a robot, and we need to do something before is too late.
Even in my late 1 year, this video opened a true message and said the absolutely true.
Naaaah, its all because.... whining is trendy...and for some... It even sells, and not to mention the lack of personal taste nowadays, thus most were just parroting whatever they heard on the internet or someone elses opinion (alot even without having their own personal hands on experience)
The current Cyberpunk hate is so telling of this. These people are soo mad that people are enjoying it now. Their loss.
Exactly I get it people just mad at other stuff but it sucks for sure
You are missing the point!
@@mamory3791 You people are. Y'all sitting here endlessly telling me and others that we shouldn't enjoy this game. Well we do, deal with it. What are you gonna do find me and uninstall it? I don't see people angry that people play skyrim! That game still has tons of bugs. Elden Ring has crashed on me at least 10 times and has a matchmaking bug that drops your connection 2 mins in, but no one is saying that game is the wost thing ever. I love Elden Ring, not even hating on it. Cyberpunk has only crashed like twice since I started playing it on my PC. Y'all need to go find a hobby.
By this logic everyone who critiques something of subpar quality is simply mad at people who enjoy it despite its obvious flaws
If hating big corpo that lied to many people, abuse it workers and sell unfinished products is a loss for you, i hope cyberpunk dlc that you preordered be buggy like cyberpunk.
I think the one thing I miss from older games are encounter specific mechanics. Just a way to make individual boss fights or set piece sequences feel more unique.
Ya that was something a lot of old games focused on which was cool, there is some in say elden ring and other titles but bosses don’t seem to be as much of a focus, thanks for watching by the way!
@@FranklyGaming of course I'm gonna watch. You aren't the only that's been defending Cyberpunk 2077 since December 2020.
You are such an underrated Channel, your reasoning, your voice, calm yet profound, I really appreciate your work.
I think one big thing, that comes naturally due to age, when we were Children everything seemed unreachable, the potential of games was almost infinite... now that we reached adulthood, we see the potential that could have been, that was compromised for short gain profits and other corporate decisions. Which is probably the biggest catalyst for people online having such strong opinions.. in a way, the louder Twitter screams, the more it resembles Johnny screaming into his Mic.. an uproar against Corporations, which is ultimately futile.
Perfectly said, I think a lot of people naturally become more cynical as they age sadly, thanks for watching!
@@FranklyGaming I think people become cynical due to releases like R2TW and Fallout 76 and Cyberpunk 77. In no other industry do people bend over so hard for malfunctioning and incomplete products. Imagine releasing a car as a big german car brand in the same state as cyberpunk 2077, people would flat out die. I know its not a perfect analogy but you catch my drift. Lets cheer for the things that do work, but lets be critical of bad products like any other industry and its customers do.
Almost a year later and this video is still ringing 1000% absolutely true. Cant begin to tell you how many dumbass video essays about how "bad" modern games are pop into my feed randomly.
Its so tiring and is the very reason ive stopped interacting with gamers online. They're all so bitter and jaded and refuse to look for good games to play and focus solely on the bad and then pretend every modern game is like that.
Will always prefer my small social circle instead.
This comment cheers me up because I'm going through a similar thing. These video essays and the people who make them are honestly some sad pathetic asshats who just make a living out of negativity. These video essays are more damaging than modern games themselves.
2 years later and its still as true as it was then if anything i think the issue has gotten WORSE
I used to have the mentality that I had to be really good at games to have fun, be a high rank, min max and memorize co-op and single player games, and that the best part of gaming was flaunting your achievements. Then, actually right before Cyberpunk came out, I kinda just pulled a complete 180 in my mentality. I was finally starting to get good at the multiplayer games I played, but I stopped having "fun". Something clicked and I started to just play games and not care about how I was doing, I just let myself enjoy it. Ever since then I've just been able to play and enjoy games.
In a way I actually believe it was Cyberpunk that flipped those thoughts for me, I remember finding it funny about how buggy it was and all, but I actually gave it a positive review on steam. I just let myself have fun in what was beneath all the negatives, and that's where I started to enjoy games again.
You cannot be surprised that misery loves company. You just can’t.
I hate when people just hate a game for having a female protagonist who is slightly darker. I mean I get games like spiderman 2 where they intentionally make mj powerful and ugly but atleast give these games a chance, hate the gameplay.
Thanks for making the video. I have a real difficulty liking new games because people don't like them. Which makes me feel terrible that I like them. Like what I like is invalid. I just want to like games.
I agree, somehow so many people already hate something even tho they never play it at first. For example, NFS Unbound, BF 2042, Spiderman 2, and AC Mirage.
It's pretty understandable why they hate it. We already in Internet era, so many information we got in a little time. People see so many videos about what game is good and what game is bad. Most of them are about comparison between Old game and new game. With that video they saw, people were already thinking that maybe a new game is becoming worse than an old game.
Tbh, I'm already at that phase. Now I can enjoy old and new games. Both of them are not the same. They lived in a different era. The focus has been shifted and the target is different too. I'm not complaining about it because I'm already old. If I hate about something, maybe the target is not for me
This might be my new favorite video.
Im a big BGS fan, when starfield came out i was enjoying it quite a bit, however seeing all the negativity online took a toll on my mental, i started feeling "guilty" for enjoying it, like maybe i shouldnt have been having fun.
It felt like the whole world was against me, and i was wrong.
I had dropped the game after rushing through the main quest, practically didnt even bother with side content.
Thankfully, now, half a year later i picked it back up and have been having a blast.
I wish i hadnt payed attention to the negativity, the internet sullied my first experience with starfield.
So thanky you for this video.
Anytime! Thank you for watching!
While I appreciate, understand, and, to an extent, agree with what you're saying in this video, I also think there is room for *legitimate* criticism.
AAA companies HAVE succumbed to massive amount of greed, and have put profit over product. Micro-transactions, except in VERY SPECIFIC circumstances (such as, yes, Valorant's model) are cancerous to multiplayer gaming. Creativity IS on the downswing in big studios, in the same way that it is in movies and TV, because corporations are so risk averse, so they just keep pumping out the same old, same old, because they know it will make money, either through inertia or nostalgia.
All that said, there are a crapton of indie studios that are, IMO, keeping that pioneer spirit of gaming alive. Sure, they might not have the prettiest games out there (and let's face facts...no matter how pretty a game is, if the nicest thing you can say about a game is "it looks great/it has great FPS", then the game is an objective failure...that's just being realistic, not 'hating'), but the have *SOUL*.
I think the best example in recent memory is Stray. That game is AWESOME!! Super atmospheric; clearly crafted with a massive amount of love and care; an interesting story; an intricate backstory; amazing atmospheric storytelling; and just overall a truly amazing game. All put out by a small studio and a bunch of folks with a few dollars and a big dream.
That, IMO, is the spirit that needs to sweep through the industry. We need to stop supporting the big corporations who keep churning out by the numbers drek, dial down out hate-boners for everything that's not absolutely and unequivocally perfect on Day Zero, and get back to supporting devs and studios with love and passion for the industry, AND THE FANS.
While there are great games nowadays there are alot of AAA companies that produce beautiful yet souless games, and i think that is one of the points that frustrate most players. Its the promise vs delivery from the big ones that end up disappointing.
And i agree that theres way too much negativity, its almost as if people go watch a new video about a new game with the mindset already on the "bad" side, its like people got addicted to anger. I dont mind people getting angry whithin reason, but some people simply look like they enjoy being outraged.
Exactly it’s fine to point out the bad too it’s just gone too much one way, hopefully positivity becomes a little more popular too
8:38 You hit it right on the button with this statement. One of things i strongly dislike about the way the gaming community behaves these days. There's no individuality, mostly everyone just obsessively mirroring other people's words just to fit in.
And you are not?
@@e33d90 No. I'm my own person through and through. I'm aware that it may be turn off to some people out there, but hey, i am who i am.
Showing riot games is not a 'great example of free to play'.
Riot games for so many years have pushed the goal post of their pricing models further and further to the point where you get these ridiculous skin line bundles that cost 200+ usd that can't even be fully upgraded. Using more systems and psychological tricks to entice it's userbase to spend more money. They started pushing it too far right after 2014 and it just spiraled out of control.
The cosmetics do not affect gameplay, but THIS IS NOT HOW FREE TO PLAY SHOULD BE MODELED AFTER.
Seriously
Defending micro transactions
And that right there tells me all I need to know about this "Gamer"
gamers are always saying "games just don't hit different anymore" as if its the games fault
no its not, its down to you growing up and not having a small child brain that's easily amazed by everything
100% agree, so many great games and developers nowadays people only looking at the bad, thanks for watching!
So you haven't noticed developers turning games into woke, monetised, anime cartoons? I was there at the dawn of 'Pong' and home computers, so maybe I see thing differently to you. More importantly, this generation of 'games' (if you can even call them that) insults my intelligence as a gamer.
@@Nemesis-222 no one cares that ur old as fuck
go and cry about "wokeness" on reddit and stop thinking ur so smart
@@Nemesis-222 "Woke"
*stops reading*
@@DestructorN7 - Hey Daniel, stick your rainbow politics where your butt plug goes.
Honestly these days I’ve been trying to tune out any large amounts of hatred towards like anything, and also trying to work on not hating everything myself. I think the negativity has gotten so bad that gamers are starting to think that harassing developers into doing their bidding is normal.
Edit: Plus I played Forza Horizon 1 recently and just finished it. I can understand why people loved it still do to this day, but… there’s just so many other things wrong with it like the driving physics that make me love later Forza Horizon titles even more (even FH4).
I really needed to see this video , good job
Thanks for watching!
I agree completely with what your saying. I feel people rather not spend the money and get the opinion from someone else's playthrough and have the idea like everyone else. Because its easier and they choose to focus on such minute things than seeing the bigger picture. I really feel nowadays people should play someone of this disliked games because maybe it will become your favorite game that even beats out your childhood game. Its just sad people cant grow and admit how beautifully crafted these games are. Thank you for the great video sir. You deserve so much more attention because of how well you've crafted your videos keep it up.
A lot of gamers are aggy asf. If a game isn't Mario, Zelda, Fall Guys, GTA, Pokemon, Final Fantasy, Minecraft, NBA2K, Madden, WWE, or Roblox then it's trash that isn't worth their time. I for the life of me never understood why most of them seem to hate tf out of other kart racing games whether they're good or bad. Anytime a kart racer gets announced, it's bashed for simply just existing. Same thing when it comes to platform fighters. I've also been noticing how weird Splatoon fans and Pokemon fans were acting towards PalWorld and Foamstars. It's like people have hard time understanding why some people would wanna play games that aren't super popular. They can't fathom why someone in their right mind would wanna play Disney Speedstorm, Nickelodeon All-Star 2, and MultiVersus. It boggles their minds for some reason lmfao. It really needs to be studied how bothered Fall Guys fans are because there's people who like Stumble Guys.
not entirely true, even those communities you listed are needlessly negative. take zelda for example: theres this thing called "the zelda cycle" where when a new game comes out, its loved by everyone for about a year, and then after that year's up people instantly make a 180 and say it always sucked, and that the last one was better. and then when the next game comes out, its suddenly good again and deemed "an underrated game". its draining.
My only reply is GANG. Read it all. Based.
As someone that really enjoyed Cyberpunk 2077 since launch and on the xbox one (it was buggy as hell but definetely a good game) I completely agree with most of what you said. Furthermore because I see myself as a really complacent guy and often avoid negativity.
But accepting everything just because hate and negativity is bad is a bit naive, or just plain desilusional.
Ignoring the problem for so long just made things worse. For Halo infinite, 343 ignored everything and deserved every ounce of criticism, showing that problems sometimes go beyond the game (bad management and bad direction for years) and if it doesn't get called out, things get worse.
I agree here. It seems very rare that we see anything positive said in this space anymore and when it is, it gets drowned out. Thanks @franklygaming for another great video.
So true. Some people just whine and cry about every single things these days.,
I grew up with the PS2 and PS3 era of gaming. I will always hold the games from those times in the highest regard and I still think they were just better experieces overall. I'm not ignorant, I did play modern games too and a few of them I consider fantastic but generally I just don't have the same feeling for them as old games, no matter how hard I'm trying to remove the nostalgia glasses. I guess it may be true that they are just made to appeal to a new generation which likes different things. I should probably just accept that my generation's time has passed and I can't adapt to new things.
games are the best they've ever been. And we have greater and greater access to older games as well in the way of remasters, remakes, and modern compilations-- Plus, an incredible blossoming of indie games like never before---I cannot keep up with all the games i want to play--I don't understand how people have the time and energy to complain. Granted, the original Halo trilogy totally outshines any later Halos (and that's been true for years), and its also true for some IPs, but by in large, there are so many damn good games, its unreal and amazing.
The saddest part about this video is that the very people you are talking about are just going to ignore every point you made and whine anyway.
Yup
They’d rather complaint than try to be positive and actually try to enjoy something
Some dude: "Games used to be better."
Me from 1990: "Man this game is s***.... I've run this map through 100 times, I still don't know where to go."
Yeah maybe history repeats itself.
Here 'cause of the upcoming Dragon Age game lmao.
I love the old games. But if I see an upcoming sequel, knowing that it's different and seeing that but I think to myself ''I don't hate this''; Then I don't hate it, and I'm tired of people telling me I'm supposed to.
Same. I was just trying to look up positive stuff about veilguard and all you get is negativity, it is draining.
@@JustKelso1993 Two days ago somebody spammed NSFW pics on the Veilguard discord to ''punish people who like the game''.
This is getting ridiculous. Folks can't seem to accept that not everybody shares their opinion.
@@ferrykeizer4911 Gamers are absolutely toxic and latch on to anything they consider 'woke'....other than Baldurs Gate of course. Double standards annoy me.
The most hateful gammers right now are definitely PC gammers i swear all they do is hate over the smallest thing
It’s cuz you got to much option and people are getting to entitled
"Games used to be better" is often misunderstood. It's not about how they were mechanically/technically/visually. But the general feel.
Back in the day you had games that looked like ass but everyone playing them could feel the love devs put into making them.
They worked out of the box without day 1 patch or "it will be good half/1 year from now when it's actually finished". Games shipped when they were as ready as they could be.
And don't even get me started on monetisation back than vs now. And that's a huge problem people have with gaming nowdays.
Hades or darkest dungeon are amazing modern examples of games that have the "good old games" vibe to them.
With some titles you can tell its a labour of love and passion and with some you can tell its a product made by people who don't care. And we used to get more of the first kind even 10 years ago compared to now.
Its complicated the same way "keep politics out of games" is. Its not that politics were never in the games or a part of gaming. Because they were. And people love it in some games. But older titles gave you info and trusted you can figure it out on your own. Games now often beat you over the head with the message. Honestly i blame social media for that. Ever since stuff like twitter x = bad, if you disagree f you, became way more common.
A lot of gamers aren't more negative they just seen better times and have expectations based on that. To put it simply you can play an asset flip survival game or subnautica. Someone who never experienced subnautica might honestly thing the asset flip is a good game. And someone who plaid subnautica will look at the asset flip and say its dogpop. You could say its wisdom gained with experience.
Most of the real negativity and hate actually comes from the gaming media. They point out useless shit and pretend gamers actually care about that for clicks. I call it antimarketing because it making both gamers and devs miserable in the process.
Damn didn't expect to write a wall of text but whatever maybe someone will find this interesting or entertaining to read.
What frustrates me is that people act as if the quality of a story is not affected by the very nature of its political themes, as if no political theme is more controversial than others-people won't have a knee-jerk reaction because a game is about World War I, but will rightly scoff at a game whose political theme is about how open relationships are good and monogamy is bad.
Well said. There's a lot to be positive about. There are loads of 'in franchise' problems that I will back behind - series that have gone one direction that puts off people who originally loved it off, which is a shame. But there are new and brilliant experiences to discover - and assuming you accept not everything is 'designed just for you' there's never been a better time to get into the genre.
Basically assassin's creed old fans, i played ac 4, it was really fun, but now its just bloated thing over and over in wallhala
Meanwhile vanguard and WWii
Back in school around 2005/2006 no one had a pc, I didnt know a single person in a school with a pc, everyone had a console, gaming was great on the pc, it was a limited community and i never experienced a ounce of toxicity, 10 years later there isnt a kid without a pc, mainstream has killed the gaming community, the same as mainstream kills everything else.
Great video, couldn't agree more with you.
Despite all the stupid shit many publishers/devs are doing we still get more amazing content than ever nowadays.
When life is rough and you are depressed or just in a bad state of mind everything will suck. If you open your eyes and start focusing on the good things in life the world can be really bright and colorful. Sad that we forget that too often. I for sure do forget it more than I like.
I wish you all the best guys :)
Awesome to see the positivity too! Thanks for supporting the channel! ❤️
EXACTLY MY POINT
A pro tip for preventing depressed thoughts and moods: Don't watch the news. News media is always exaggerated and biased, it's designed to play with our minds.
Pro Tip Nr. 2: delete Twitter/Facebook/Instagram or any other social media site, where people are constantly lying about their "perfect" lives.
Pro tip Nr 3: Take a break. Switch off your phone or PC, disconnect, run into the forest for a day or travel somewhere quiet for a weekend, alone or with your best friend, which must not be epensive.
Extreme Tip: use a simple flip phone from time to time and just observe the world around you, instead of doom scrolling social media or news.
I made those observations by myself and my mood is much better, since i do this. I feel as if a weight has been lifted
My experience with the hoyoverse and gacha community is horrendous. People only want what THEY want, but the devs are doing their best. Also, their games are free and Genshin Impact is the best free game, best quality. People are just so greedy
man you're so right!
every time I try to say I like something like kingdom hearts and that I don't really like nintendo games or something like elden ring, I get dude bro gatekeepers telling me I'm not real gamer or whatever.
Or if I don't 100% complete a game, that I didn't really beat it so how could I have truly enjoyed it.
like apparently people didn't like the new kingdom hearts game but I did.
or how no one likes the new pokemon games or the designs, but I do. and don't even get me started about those damn trees that people whined about for so long!
or how people whined for a classic sonic game, they make sonic mania, and then suddenly people hate it???
like I know they might be just the loud minority, but I can't help also wondering why people are suddenly so hateful towards games that are genuinely fine.
it's so baffling to me.
honestly I wanna here more from the positive majority.
I wanna here more from people who liked the games and why.
it gets real depressing when all you hear about games that you're interested in is that they're all "mid" or "bad" and I wonder who is saying these things?
like what kind of gamer are they that they didn't like it? especially coming from game journalists.
I haven't even gotten to try the new saints row and people are already saying it sucks.
I saw someone on tiktok saying they enjoyed it and the comments were filled with "not as good as saints row 2!" or "it's been shit since 2".
like I haven't even gotten to play yet and already people are trying to tell people what to think and how to feel before anyone has gotten to touch it.
or how ff7 remake was an AMAZING game to me, but then I see people complaining that it's "too short" and that square is "ripping people off" by splitting it into chapters.
like I feel like people play stuff purposefully looking for problems instead of just letting the game be what it is.
for some reason they expect every game to be like the second coming of christ or something like when they were a child.
when they got super mario 64 for christmas and it was magical.
like you gotta realize that you grew up and when you're an adult with money and you can just buy games whenever, it's no longer a magical once a year thing anymore.
that's why I'm not gonna listen to anyone anymore about anything and I'm just gonna play whatever I want!
I always think of Dolores from Westworld when I come across topics such as these. Her line, "Some people choose to see the ugliness in this world, the disarray. I choose to see the beauty", is something I'm trying to incorporate as one of my philosophies.
I think one of the big issues is most people have difficulty separating what they ACTUALLY feel and want from the way in which they EXPRESS it. They just don't have a developed self-reflective capacity. So they can't or don't examine their own behaviour and consider what it means and what effect it has.
So, in the average hyper-negative reddit poster's mind, there's possibly a fairly reasonable feeling and intent. They've just bought a game, it's not the product that they believe was sold to them, and they are dissatisfied. They want this problem rectified, and they wish that game developers and publishers would do better.
But what comes out of that person (and what is exponentially amplified in the public space) is something ENTIRELY different: something highly emotive, judgemental, absolutist, and personalised. And even abusive.
Because in that moment, they are probably mad. But the nature of asynchronous communication is that the replies will come AFTER that initial angry feeling has passed.
AND SO, the person doesn't go back and reread their original post. They just see all of the CRITICISMS they are receiving and they cannot comprehend how people are missing the point!
It's like being at a restaurant and finding a hair in your soup, and so you slap the waiter across his face. And when you inevitably end up in court for assault, you protest to the judge: "Are we supposed to accept low quality product and services?!!!"
But obviously, that's NOT the problem. It was the expression, and that completely HIJACKED any opportunity for something reasonable and productive.
I see that happening constantly online. For example, we can't productively discuss the negative implications of the "Launch First, Patch Later" mentality, because every time someone makes a thread about it, it's emotive, judgemental etc. It ceases to be about the state of the industry and how projects and businesses are managed, and most importantly: how employees and contractors are treated.
Instead it becomes an attack on those people PERSONALLY, for being "lazy, duplicitous, deceitful and even conspiratorial" against gamers.
This is why you can't discuss anything on the internet anymore. And this is why gaming discourse has become so hypernegative.
Micro transactions ruined getting the entire game when you spent 60 bucks, now every game is 1/2 available with the 60 and then you have to pay for the rest of the game that’s already done. Love your videos either way
Agree. U want to blow money on cosmetic skins cool but using it to lock half the game content and turn it into pay for play on a game u just blew $60 on is bs. It also makes the multiplayer into who has more money. It ruins it and keeps people away from enjoying the game.
I appreciate this guy standing up for Cyberpunk 2077 but his take on microtransactions is dead wrong.
His point basically seems to be that (1) locking core content behind microtransactions is bad, and (2) locking optional content behind microtransactions is a reasonable way to raise money to fund the production of more content.
You guys seem in agreement about #1. How do you feel about #2?
@@irrevenant3 I said how I feel about coametic cosmetic items to support the game. However all I heard him say was that he supports microtransactions, that people need to stop being so negative and to allow poor ea to keep bending over the gamers in to make their $ in peace. Which is total bs. If he is against pay to play + content locking microtransactions then we are in agreement but I didn't hear him say that.
@@chrischrz6064 There is older video in this channel, where he dives deeper about microtransactions. What I VERY disagreed (you can see in that comment section) that "each person is responsible for their choices". By making the content addictive, exploiting mental health issues (20% of USA grown ups it will have at 1 point in their life).
@@chrischrz6064 His position seems to be a bit more nuanced than I originally thought and I get the impression he's gone into it more in other videos. What he said in this one (among other things) is:
_"What about the fact that now these insanely massive and expensive triple AAA games can finally be funded by the microtransactions in the multiplayer offering? And why do we ignore the great examples of it too? Like Valorant, where everything you buy is purely cosmetic and doesn’t affect gameplay."_
At the very least that suggests he considers microtransactions for non-cosmetic content as *not* a great example of microtransactions.
Personally I think it depends. He makes a reasonable general point that microtransactions are an effective way to fund extra content for the games we love. Stuff that would otherwise be a DLC, or not made at all.
As far as I can tell very few people are absolutely opposed to microtransactions under all circumstances, period - the question/disagreement is mostly over what it is reasonable to charge microtransactions *for.*
My personal threshold is generally that I don't want or expect to pay microtransactions for something that should've been included when I bought the core game. There's obviously some subjectivity to that, and everyone's going to draw that line in a slightly different place.
Microtransactions aren't my favourite thing but I think they're probably not unreasonable for cosmetic content, or even for *extra* gameplay content that's not core to the game like bonus quests, new equipment etc. Note that I'm mostly thinking of singleplayer games here - I'd be much less forgiving of microtransaction access to things like additional equipment in a competitive game.
I think the problem with modern games for me is that releases are few and very far between outside of studios like capcom and fromsoft, games take 5-10 years to make while back then it took 5 years to make an entire trilogy of games hell gta trilogy were released in just 4 years, graphics and high production value are very nice but they take WAY longer to make.
Hey, I just discovered your channel and I think you are amazing. I do hope you continue doing the things you do
It's been bad this year as well. I mean Spider-Man 2 fans hated on Baldur's Gate 3 for winning an award. I love both of those games and they're great. What tops it for me is trailers of games coming out and I see more complaining. I used to remember when people would hype games. Silent Hill 2, GTA 6, Dragon Ball Sparking Zero. All these trailers of games we wont be getting anytime soon and people nitpick and shit on the developers who put in way to much time than they're getting paid. Its disconcerting to see so much negativity in a community that thrives on being transported to a new world, or experiencing a persons story through ones eyes.
Bring the love back to gaming.
I agree I should be more positive. My only issue with things today is empty promises, long roadmaps, and slow content roll out, why cant I just have everything day one.
Risk averse corporations who care more about squeezing every last cent from your wallet, rather than being passionate about putting out an awesome product and making their customer base happy.
Bro I’m having the time of my life playing games on my PS5. Never owned a proper home console until now and playing on a TV is so awesome and I’m loving every moment of it. I’ve been a PC gamer all my life and had lost interest in playing games until I bought a PS5 on a whim. Now I’m playing almost 1-2 hours everyday after work. And all I see on TH-cam is negativity regarding how games are not what used to be or how this generation is so boring. I feel sad for them.
So how did you like the playstation portal selling well after the ps vita was abandoned by sony? Playstation portal will pick up where the ps vita left off thanks to Sony 😂😂😂😂
@@PSPortalShitpostingAntiSwitch He's having fun and he doesn't care. Why should you?
@@johnmcternan4157 stay crying that you defend a Nintendo switch fanboy that hates sony portables kid lmao
@@PSPortalShitpostingAntiSwitch Do you have a problem with people enjoying games you don't like?
@@PSPortalShitpostingAntiSwitchWhere did the OP say they hate PSPs and why care?
Escapism has become endemic. People want Second Life that they don’t have to feel bad about choosing over there own lives.
Im somewhere in the middle ground, i think devs became exploitative but the gamers also became more hateful. The gaming industry is still better than ever before nowadays because of the choice range, more games get localized and more developers make different games that are unique. My first games were minecraft, rise of the tomb raider and dark souls 3 and even tho im not very excited for the newest aaa release anymore, i enjoy the amount of choice there is out there.
No gamers aren't. the gaming industry going corporate is the biggest issue and hiring new writers that don't care about previous created lore and story retconing everything for there own creations or putting in real world political bias in there games lecturing gamers is the second biggest issue.
New game creators have no respect for what they work on and talk trash to players that dare criticize there games
Console wars hipster detected 😂😂😂
@@PSPortalShitpostingAntiSwitch what?
@@ExelArts stay butthurt over this video entitled gamer. I will roast you on my discord next if you don't delete your OP. 🤣🤣🤣
I think a lot of the issue is social media overhype. Games get hyped to the point where nothing could ever live up to those standards.
I turned 40 this year, I remember getting the gold Zelda for NES, Super Mario, Duck Hunt etc. A game came out you knew next to nothing about it, there was no google or youtube to tell you why you should hate a game, and lets be real, thats almost all it is, even universally loved games have more negative articles than positive.
2077 is one of the biggest examples ever, Ive stated that it was a great game since its release, and that its only gotten better and Ive caught so much flack from people who've never even played it because of what they read.
And yeah, there are bad games sometimes too, but thats always been the case, thats what steam return is for~
An aside, I wish I had found your channel sooner, no clickbait titles, no hate mongering, I dig it man, keep up the good work!
One day they'll all be saying how they missed the 'og days when games were good' claiming Valorant and Cyberpunk were the golden age of gaming.
I'm old enough to have seen it repeat itself several times over now.
There were rules to old-internet. A lot actually, but one important to the topic of this video. Never read the comments.
I think that's what's changed. It's easier to find comments and in a lot of ways fan response is the most important part of ad campaigns. We've given too much power to the reactionary few- we've lost the disconnect between art and the artist.
I'll be there to laugh when this irony happens
Back in the day if a bad game came out, or a hyped-game wasn't quite up to the hype, people would talk about it for a little while and then it would fall out of the collective consciousness. Hell, if you go back a little further than that (to 8 or 16 bit days) no one even really talked about bad games at all. I kinda remember as a Nintendo Power kind growing into the realization that a Nintendo game even COULD be bad. But in the last decade games being bad is such a huge part of the discussion and culture around games. It's not entirely a bad thing! It has it's own fun, and it assists in the constant striving towards improvement. But I think it's one of (many) contributing factors to the idea that games are worse now. The past isn't just seen through rose colored glasses when looking back now. In a lot of ways, we were wearing them back then, too.
I disagree with nearly every video you make... but I truly respect your different point of view and genuine affection you have for gaming
However
1. It's very hard to be told that "I've changed" and "I'm the one at fault" (or that the game Cyberpunk was "always" good); when the game couldn't even run on my PS4. After 3 hard crashes, one that deleted my save, and multiple T-poses at critical moments, I refunded the game for being BROKEN. My negativity was not being affected by hate mobs.. I literally could not play the bloody game hence why I have my hatred for the broken promise that CD Project Red told me "it will be ready". If I ordered a pizza and you gave me catnip.... I have a right to be mad at the pizza boy. Which brings me to:
2. Modern gaming. I disagree that gamers are at fault. I honestly think it's the over-promising and hyped up media that's the problem. For every "Elden Ring", "It takes two"; and "Prey", there is a Saints Row Remake, Battlefield 2042 and Diablo Immortal. When companies say they will support a game like BIOWARE's Anthem or talk about how their game is "truly ground-breaking" and or "we are listening to players", there is a huge chance they are lying through their teeth... and gamers... hell human beings in general hate that corpo speak. The fact that modern day twitter/social media has made it possible to hear corpo speak and youtuber hot-takes more often, creates groups dynamics for conflict
3. Honestly I had more but.... like what you said in the video we need to "better". I enjoy how you talk about video games with your calming tone of voice, it makes video game topic seem a lot more surreal and deeper. I subbed and look forward to more Cyberpunk or video game related content. It truly is an amazing how one anime managed to revive love for a single game
Devs personally attack me because of who I voted for, that is why I'm considered "toxic", because I resent being attacked by them. Direct your complaints to the devs, not gamers.
I feel like people cling way to hard onto older games not because they were good (bc lets be honest most of the time they weren't) but because they were happier during that time and associate the older games with how they felt and now that they dont feel the same they look at every game looking for a feeling that they want instead of a fun experience in another world
That is false.
I am rather young myself, player newer games first, had some fun, but nothing too special with a few exceptions, then I played some older games, way more fun, much more memorable.
New games suck more and more because while they look better, they are now almost always lacking in soul. And there are many other reasons, gameplay is often not good, but designed to make you play a lot and spend money. And political stuff is pushed because of ESG, Blackrock and such companies.
@haydencarn8737 Young player? You must be 12 years old and live in your parents basement entitled negative gamer hahaha
@@haydencarn8737 You're gonna have to be much more specific if you want to have a point: what new games are you talking about, what old games are you talking about and actually bother to define what is the "soul" of a videogame, let's see if you actually have a personal definition instead of using it as a buzzword.
@@katzea.a7880 LOL, sure.
Exhibit A:
Right now, I am playing the old Saints Row games. It's fun, weird, hilarious, and utterly over the top. I have also gotten a chance to play the new one, and let me put it like this, the game could have had no bugs at all, and I would have still hated it.
It turned from this over-the-top Jakuza/Mafia-style madhouse kind of game, into just another hipster style overly color-saturated example of why modern games often (Not always) suck ass.
The political s__t that was forced into it also did not help it.
And I would make another note, Saints Row the old games are quite diverse, and it's wonderful because it's not forced and it's not based on things like ESG, DEI, and such.
That is no longer the case, the characters feel like literal checked-off boxes on a board.
I could go on, but that would be too much of a rant, so next game.
Exhibit B:
Watchdogs, watchdogs had its flaws, but it was a very cool setting, cool style, and cool game. Of course, part two was turned into another hipster hey hey California kind of game... And Legion is not even worth mentioning. The whole tone that made the first game so special is gone. And now it feels utterly soulless with its oversaturated colors and check-box characters.
Exhibit C:
Homeworld.
The newest Homeworld game has all the depth taken from it, it feels like it was designed with demented babies in mind instead of fans who enjoyed the old games. Meaning, all the previous ones. The only good thing about it is the new rouge lite mode, but even that lacks in depth.
Exhibit D:
Tomb Raider.
Old games, and to some extent even the remakes, are fun, tense at times, with good puzzles and very cool places.
Now apparently Lara has turned from a sassy explorer who is often not concerned about consequences into a self-loathing woman who is just "Trying to do the right thing" if you play the old game's remake there was a disclaimer about how "Incorrect the game is, and how the devs don't support it's ideas." It's like a fucking kindergarten.
And just to make this clear, I could go on for hours more about live service, how games like D2 could have been great, but are now honestly vile, and how sadly everything seems to be going toward f__king fortnite these days and even if it does not "consultant" companies from the west are trying to push political bullshit into every single game AND EXPECT TO BE PAID 7, MILLION dollars for ruining your game...
Yeah, they tried that with the Chinese dev makes one of the few games that I am looking forward to, the Black Myth one.
Anyhow, Yeah, there are a TON of reasons to dislike and at times even hate modern gaming, saying otherwise is literally just falling for the BS of the media which is trying to tell you "EVERYTHING IS FINE, JUST CONSUME PRODUCT!!!".
Anyhow, almost everything in the AAA scene is just filled with quotas, profit margins, live-service, virtue signalling and some such nonsense now. People, are sick of it, and for good reason. I hope, I got my point across.
There is a certain pattern here.. I think you just don’t like games that are more progressive.
Exhibit A:
Your main argument for the first two games was that they turned it “into another hipster game”, this is not a flaw with the game and more of a flaw with yourself.
Exhibit B:
The saints row example is you just hating on a game that pretty much everyone dislikes, just because there Is a bad game now doesn’t mean all the games before were good.
Exhibit C:
I (and many others) think watchdogs 2 is an amazing game and pretty much expanded on every system of the first. not much more to be said.
The exhibit bit got stale a while ago so I’ll wrap this up pretty quick. From my limited knowledge of you it seems like you don’t know what a “Good” and “Bad” game looks like. The only “proof” you’ve brought to the table is saying “Hipster bad, new women bad” also that whole “stop pushing your political views into our media!” Thing doesn’t apply when your whole review is you pushing your politics.
And let's not forget, drama drives views, Making negative content is much more profitable, so kudos for going the opposite route!
At first I wanted to disagree, but I took a second to clear my mind, watched this with an open perspective. And I think you might be right. Honestly now IS a great time to play games, cause not only do you have the modern games, but everything released before now, more accessible than ever before. Nice video man
Plus you have the power of emulation to play old games at the settings you want(provided the game itself doesn’t do weird things beyond 60 fps).
enjoy the monetisation and broken release bro, remember to preorder
@@e33d90that wasn’t the "gotcha" you think it was 💀 ur literally the demographic this video is about
@@kickitup dunno why you are hallucinating about gotcha's, also try to articulate your thoughts without using a skull emoji and the word literally
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bro your backlog is dope, bless your content. honestly this isnt said enough, gamers are so negative. so many games are thrown away because of a bit of BS and most of these games are sick when i play them. these games we're super nostalgic for are great, but they suck y'know? (i mean they dont suck but our standards used to be WAY lower) bioshock still holds up but to today standards it isn't a phenomenal experience.
Exactly, the point of games is to have fun there are a ton of games I love that are hated for example I LOVE Pokemon Scarlet, I don't give 2 shits about the graphics or the bugs or anything, what matters is that I had a blast playing it, the characters, the story, the open world with all the pokemon running around made the world feel so alive, after i finished the game with that phenomenal climax i couldn't stop thinking about I absolutely love that game and I don't care who knows and i absolutely don't think that modern pokemon suck, these people are just mad that they lost the feeling they had as kids, pokemon is still going strong and 100% deserves to, this video helps cuz I do love modern gaming and think all the poeple saying its bad need to shut up, i do think people should make more videos like this pushing back on negativity so thanks
I still disagree my man. I wish I didn't because it would mean the AAA gaming arena was in a better place, but it simply isn't.
Yes, graphics are better and 60+ FPS is the norm. There are way, way more choices, and many of them are free. Heck, including mobile the majority of them are, but that doesn't mean better. I've seen game after game ruined by microtransactions that are put in to stop padded out gameplay that was also inserted to slow progress, or allow other players to progress for $500-+/m, along with 5 hours+ per day of game time...to remain in the top 25k or so players in a top 1k Aliiance/Guild. I see "Gattlepasses being removed for for micro/macrotransactions, where 2-3 new characters are release monthly for $50 a pop, which then require another $150 in purchases to make them usable at a tolerable level.
I see franchises I love shelved because the devs screw up with awful marketing strategies which result in the game only making 200 million or so after expenses. I see games stuck in development hell while team members scream at their fans on Twitter as the inherently change the nature of previous characters in the franchise just to be called a racist online, even though my father was from Brazil and my mother was born to an 1rst gen Irish immigrant and a 1rst gen wandering Czech Gypsy who met her husband while he was serving in the military in the 1950s. I watch about half of the games I used to love get smashed, like many of my favorite literature, television and movie genres by _common sensibilities in turn ruining the games by removing the heores journey for the fairer sex and making the men doofuses. I see self censoring at every turn, and though it does have it's place, there are numerous games/books/and other media where it simply doesn't. These are power fantasies in _most_ cases and needn't be, no *should not* be castrated to appease the 2% of the population that screams the loudest on Twitter and Facebook who also happen to buy the games.
In that sense, games have gotten far worse. When _"Sexy women"_ equals bad for no other reason than because men find them attractive there is a problem. When an adult game can't have someone call another person a fat f#%& during an argument, there's an issue. When people are hired to design/write media based on sex as opposed to merit there is a problem (I have no issue with women being cast to play women, queer being cast to play queer, hispanic being cast to play hispanic etc; while at the same time if there is an English actor who looks Middle Eastern and nails a part I have no problem with them getting a role playing an Arab Muslim either...I guess it's called acting?).
That's where i see the biggest problems in gaming, besides micros/macros in full price games, live service or not, because years ago we could still play 64 v 64 because thousands of people hosted or rented their own servers. We didn't need the devs to host it for us, so all those cool outfits and gun skins were earned in fricken game, never mind all the games that are basically pay to win now, or worse, single player with tons of fluff to sell XP boosters, bonus content that is already in the flippin game, or whatever other shady crap they decide to pull that release.
Now I don't believe Cyberpunk falls into any of those categories, at least not on PC, and it never did. Oh, I also listened to an interview from about 3 years ago where Adam said that NPC were going to have their own routines, though they would not all be unique as it would be impossible for current gaming hardware to handle it and they wanted the game out before 2077. W were told that our decisions would drastically affect the world, that there would be classes and a plethora of other things. Apparently all that changed when Keanu Reeves came aboard though, and whether that was for better or worse we'll never know. In their defense, though they held up the living breathing world until the last year, they seemed to come clean on just about everything else except base console optimization.
We also had numerous things that were inferred, like vehicle fighting being a feature, a sub/cartway system, a longer game the TW3 which was also scrapped when KR came on with the excuse that too many people didn't see all the things in TW3 with more than half not finishing (or something like that) so they wanted to keep the main story line to 30-40 hours, adding "Gigs", "Hustles" and a handful of side missions to make up for it. I believe it was an excuse because it's my understanding that once Reeves signed on Silverhand went from a minor NPC to the focal point of the game outside of the main charactrer. Though that may have made the main quest, along with the fleshed out side quests better, I'm pretty damn sure if they hadn't had to ditch 3 years worth of story, instead having worked on the same game, with Keanu from the start, the game would have undoubtedly had been a better experience. Just like I'm sure that had they foregone the last gen consoles we would have gotten a much more polished experience, and probably be waiting or playing the 2nd expansion right now. Both of those things bug me a bit because it shows a lack of honesty for literally zero good reason.
Still that said, it was far and away the best game I played in 2020, and possibly the best I've played this year, though more time, interactions and quests with the main NPC's would have been great. having them interact with one another would have been fantastic. Instead, it felt like a bunch of self contained stories, like an anthology series where each week there is a new adventure that ahs little to do with what happened the previous week.
Though I do agree it was an RPG with a great story, choice and cosequence mattered very little for the majority of the game. There were rarely numerous ways to go about accomplishing goals ala Deus Ex or Hitman, never mind the options present in CRPG's, or even action RPG's like TW3 or DA: Inquisition (Though I felt the story in CP 2077 was far better). As for bugs, I've played at least a dozen games last year that were buggier than CP 2077, and recently both God of War and Spiderman remastered crashed my PC 2 or 3 times per session, where as CP 2077 crashed maybe twice? in about 600 hours, with a polish *AT LAUNCH* to look like a coding masterpiece when compared to Oblivion and Skyrim. My _Game breaking"_ bugs consisted of putting a hat on and ending up with longer hair in the back. My hair disappearing in mirrors, cars spawning on top of each other when I jumped to summon a different vehicle after just calling the wrong one; basically really, really minor shit. I know other people had some serious issues, and like I said, it *NEVER* should have been released for last gen consoles save the Xbox One. Horrid decision.
SO swinging back to the main topic, is gaming worse? The writing and stories are, yes. 2007-2016 were so great because we had the creativity of _"System Shock,"_ _"Dues Ex,"_ "Baldur's Gate,"_ and _"Fallout 2"_ mixed with modern graphics and all that entails. Now, even worse than micros, we have titles being written for the same group of people that killed the Western Comic book industry, wrecked the Star Wars and Star Trek franchises while telling the consumers how toxic they are. If a writer, producer or dev speaks out they're labled and summarily fired.
Now CDPR hasn't fallen victim to this, nor has Rockstar (yet) or Lariam as well as a ton of other AA 1/2 studios, and I hope to heck they don't. I just want talented people to be able to make what they want to the best of their ability. If we can get back to that, though I'm sure I will still despise the message in a lot of games (which is fine, no one can please everyone), I'll have just as many whose message or lack-there-of I can engross myself in. I'd much rather have 3 more studios like CDPR, decade old Bioware, or Eidos in that regard than 25 more EA's and Disney's (well, whatever rules Disney jams down publisher "B's" throats as part of the deal to make a game. Devs shouldn't be afraid they're going to get cancelled for putting things in a game to make it better just because it offends the wrong group of people, and until we get over that, I can't see getting back to a true gaming golden age for a while. That definitely isn't me changing, it's the people making/writing the games. ei When the women in a game have to be clayfaced to make them less attractive than the person they hire as the model because she is too attractive (think Jayde Rossi in M.E. Andromeda; yeah, those faces are close) we need to take a serious look at what the heck we are doing and knock it off.
The gaming industry for better or worse is making great games. They just need to ease down on releasing games that are unfinished, buggy, and broken and missing features that are not presence in the game.
Y'know o really appreciate your video, been so hyped with many games coming out. However every time i check them out i see so many of the same titled videos, "X game is trash."
Yeah i like dragon age, assassin's creed, star wars, fable, since those are what i grew up on. I was always at my favorite GameStop because i was checking out new and old games, or talking to the people working there about upcoming dlc or games and what they thought. GameStop was my TH-cam/Reddit before i got linked in. I loved it and made my hobby fun.
Once i grew up and signed up for all those social medias, i got overwhelmed and took on a persona that wasn't me. For years and i mean years i was a angry neckbeard nerd that hated everything.
Fast forward to these last couple years, ive given up that hate but kept that caution that has saved me more time and money with the mindset that everyone has been saying for years, "dont like it, move on." I love that fact that ive detached myself from most social media and just go off my gut.
So yeah, i will be grabbing dragon age, assassin's Creed, star wars, pokemon, fable, etc because i love them and have been invested in them for so long i want to see what they come up with next. Hate on me, all you want. Like his video said am going to be having a grand old time enjoying myself. Thanks again for the video, you got yourself a new sub from me.
It's almost like being presented with mediocre product after mediocre product causes a growth of negative reactions..
Dude its totally fine if a product does not function on release stop complaining.
@@e33d90 No. It is not. A product SHOULD work on release. Your mindset is exactly why consumers continue getting fucked over.
@@caspy-fn People back in the early 80's didn't have internet to enrage about E.T. and other shitty games. Did the gaming industry got away from it? Did you know what happened in 1983?
@@lumirairazbyte9697 Except the gaming industry wasn't nearly as big as it is nowadays. Today AAA devs can get away with selling dogshit games.
Who asked? 😂