That pass from Schlotterbeck to Musiala deserves a mention. If the my team the Dutch don't go through I am hoping for an Austria vs Swiss semi final. Why Christante wasn't subbed after 30 minutes is beyond me. He was useless.
Only worthy mention from germany, as an englishman im more fearfull of the swiss than germany RN. Die duetsch will probably win but aus and swiss seem most inform teams atm tbf. Hopefully spain , portugal, belgium and france turn up
Schar, a defender, was dribbling past Italian players inside Italy’s box. That’s how little pressure Italy were putting on Switzerland around their own box. One of the worst performances I’ve seen from an Italy team. The amount of time and space they gave to Switzerland is unforgivable.
Italy since 2006 can’t be just “good”. They’re either champions/finalists, or they are utter, total crap. This Euro 2024 team was possibly the worst Italia I’ve ever seen in my life, even worse than with Ventura. There are serious foundational problems in Calcio right now.
@@falconeshield 2018 was a bit of bad luck as a result of having Spain in the same group. 2022 there was no bad luck, simply a team not good enough to score a single penalty against Switzerland (courtesy of Premier League superstar Jorginho).
National teams need six players to be consistent starters. I don’t think Spalletti ever got to the point of making a decisive decision on what the nucleus of the team should be.
I love Spalletti as a Napoli fan he brought us a scudetto the first one since I was 2 but he has to go the constant changing lineups and some of the players he left home its just ridiculous this team was embarrassing to watch
Offside is offside. If the ball touches the goal line even 1cm - will people say "Come on, that's too much" or "Yeah, it's not completely in. Whatchu guys want"? I assume the latter so why are we so sensible to a regular offside? Imagine them geting the goal: People would complain that technically it was an irregular goal.
Yes, because by introducing a "buffer zone", where a fixed distance between attacker and defender is considered as being "equal" and not considered as offside, we will introduce the same discussions and VAR decisions about the puffer zone, as we have now. Its just shifting the problem to a different definition of offside. Offside is offside, no matter if its a millimeter or 10 meters. I completely agree.
@@1997lordofdoom Potentially yes. How often it is some cm that decide if you hit the ball right, if you control the pass, if you get the header before the defender. So yes - it can make a difference. And even if not - rules are rules. So now we should discuss every rule just because we don't care?
@@Greg-cu8yo yep, basically. There's always a line you draw somewhere. No matter how you interpret the offside rule, you still have to have a line. So the problems will absolutely persist. All you can do is to make this AI thing permanent and have instant calls for offside/not offside as with goal-line technology, then forget about it and just accept it. I don't think rewriting the outside rule to be based on interpretation would be a good thing, or that it would work any well
Are people forgetting the ball is literally chipped? It clearly shows when it's experiencing force of being passed, hitting a hand, etc. The decisions were objectively correct.
There are many aspects of the offside rule that I don't like, but I have no problem with where the line is drawn. It is clear. It is black and white. I think there will be more controversies if we change the rule so that the referee can decide whether the attacking player gains an advantage from an offside position.
As a Dane it really was from heaven to hell in 2 minutes. After the penalty we had push more forward to get the equalizer. It didn't really help our game having to do that. We're better on the counter and it opened up our defense too much as it does. But we had to try.
As a German, I think this is a good analysis of the match bc from my perspective it was hell to heaven lol I felt robbed seeing the 1:0 by Schlotterbeck disallowed but later on it was our turn to get the fortunate calls with the offside and penalty decision. Both calls were technically correct but extremely close and I know if Germany had been on the receiving end of those calls I would’ve been fuming. After Musiala’s goal I felt much more secure and it was definitely the result of Denmark pushing up the field, and I think we deserved the win in the end. But Denmark played very well in phases and I have great respect for the players and team. And Denmark as a country is great. Much respect 🇩🇪🤝🇩🇰
@@victormarian7889 how is it “shady” tho? By every rule in the modern game that’s a handball and a penalty. Harsh but correct. Andersen’s hand was out and even slightly above his shoulder when the ball made contact, he was barely still running at the time the cross came in so it’s not that it was in a “natural” position. Just an unfortunate reflex on his part, nothing really shady about it. If you rewatch the clip you see he immediately pulls his hand down after the contact is made bc he knows he fucked up
@@lukasp5892 I have played the game a lot, his hand was in a normal position, there was no intent, it was from quite close range and the deviation it produced was minimal. Otherways it was a handball in the area, no doubt, so the penalty was legit, but for us, for example, against Belgium, a much more obvious handball in the area, with clear intent, was not sanctioned, but again, Belgium was better.
@@victormarian7889 I too have played the game a lot and even have done some refereeing in my time not professional refereeing but still.. his hand is not in a normal position given his movement off the ball beforehand. It’s outstretched and above his shoulder. It doesn’t matter that the deviation produced is “minimal” that would be a dangerously arbitrary metric to use when determining whether a foul should be called. There was enough contact for a hand ball decision and he knew it. The handball against Belgium should’ve been given too, just as the handball against Venezuela in the Copa America game with Jamaica. Two clear errors where I’m surprised VAR didn’t do its job properly. Belgium were the better team so what? Germany were the better team today as well, that doesn’t impact whether the decision should stand or not lol
None of these Italians (except Donnarumma) are leading lights for their clubs. The worst Italian teams with the one who lost to Slovakia in 2010 and Costa Rica in 2014. I forgot El Shaarawy existed, I thought it was 2013 again.
The problem is not the players this time. If you followed the past nine months since Spalletti took over, we’ve been changing formations and players at every game without a vision of any kind. It’s obvious to me that players cannot perform, even world class ones, when everything changes every time you play.
You don't need leading lights for any club - what good is that doing to England for example? You need a coach who accepts the limitations of his squad and plays accordingly. Conte had results with a team that featured Parolo, Giaccherini, Eder, Pellé and freaking de Sciglio! Bang average players but they fit beautifully within Conte's structure. What does Spalletti need to do anything, resurrect Paolo Rossi from the dead?
@@roccociccone597 the players are 100% the problem there are only 2!!! good italian players that play in the Seria a we were never gonna win this tournament anyway, WC 2026 is and has always been the target when appointing Spalle
Fagioli over Jorginho, Spaletti go have your head checked. Who changes the team so much in a tournament. No pellegrini? Scamaca was useless. De lorenzo was the worst player of the tournament. Worst Italian team ever. I was so furious with the Spain match,this one gave me an aneurysm.
Fagioli is ok, he wasn’t the problem my guy. The problem was that ever since Spalletti came we’ve been changing formations and players every match. No clear vision for the team. Yes Di Lorenzo was awful and only played cause of bloody Spalletti.
@@roccociccone597exactly what Allegri did at Juve. No vision. No game plan. Chopping and changing the team all the time. On top of all of it, LS is an ignorant punk who has no idea how to handle the media.
Congratulations Germany and Switzerland. Your predictions aged well. The Italians in the comments were heated 😂. A shame tho how they went out coz Italy did okay in qualifying and they should have stuck to their guns but they looked so rattled after the Spain game and couldn't stop chopping and changing each game after. Full credit to Switzerland tho coz for as bad as Italy were, Switzerland were excellent on the day.
Mate we did in fact not do well in qualifying. Spalletti’s team has gotten progressively worse over the past 9 months. He kept changing formations and players. No wonder we had no coherent game plan or performance to speak of.
@@roccociccone597 Yeah he couldn't settle on an eventual team and system. And nah I don't think you did too badly in qualifying coz I'm referring to the performances themselves. Your team looked a lot more settled that's why I was surprised when he started changing everything after the Spain game coz I feel like he should have stuck to his guns win or lose. Coz yeah it wouldn't have changed the results automatically but the players seemed a lot more sure of themselves and sure of what they needed to do prior to all the tweaks and changes. But yeah they'll be back again 🫡. Now he's got two years to get them world cup ready.
There was no guns to stick to because Spalletti hasn't got a plan that's suited to this squad. And yes, it was a dominant, clinical performance from Switzerland.
You can clearly see that the ball changed its trajectory and flew much higher. I don't think Havertz would have gotten the ball otherwise, but I've seen penalties for much less.
@@spammus1 What?? Verratti was the one who held the midfield together in 2021 when Barella and Jorginho were found wanting against Spain and England. At least he is able to retain the ball against pressure and will get stuck in to retrieve it. Locatelli, indeed isn't good in Jorginho's role. But he's a decent attacking midfielder, something we didn't see with Pellegrini or Barella.
Italy from the first minute had no energy. Like they where physically and mentally exhausted. Also Anderson's handball did visibly change the trajectory of the ball inside the box. It was a textbook penalty.
@@kaedeakamatsu6877 They do that in every tournament, the one thing that's different this time is the presence of an opinionated baldy man on the bench - one who said before the tournament that he would favour certain players (those of Inter) at the expense of others.
'Adjusting history' what the... You either have rules and the they can now be detected with technology or you go with the 'spirit of game' and you get decisions that are clearly wrong. The blocking from Kimmich looks like something you see with most corner kicks. That was a harsh call as the defender was too far anyway from Schlotterbeck to make a difference... but it doesn't suit your narrative, does it?
nope, there's always a middle ground between both nowadays. VAR can only do so much because it's actual humans who have to make decisions in the end, and there's no clear rules for some things. And I think you're definitely jumping the gun there with your aggressive accusations lol. Adrian has opinions, i sometimes don't agree with them, doesn't mean he has an agenda
Congratulations Spalletti for creating the most spineless, passive Italian team ever. And don't give me the "squad has no talent" excuse: the 2012 and 2016 squads were also devoid of talent but Prandelli and Conte made it work with simple instructions. Spalletti set the tone from even before the tournament when he said clearly he would favour Inter's players over the rest.
Lmaoook great prediction bro! Swiss have a plan and identity and Italy did not throughout . We just hoped for some individual brilliance from Chiesa or Barella and donnaruma heroics to keep us in games and hope something finally clicks. It never did and it shouldn’t have been that surprising! Good luck to the Swiss !
Counter arguement to the offside rule change: If the whole body of the attacker has to be ahead to be offside, less defences will play a high line, meaning less attacking and high pressing football, more defences sitting back.
I would personally like to see one league take a gamble and try a different offside rule, so we can find out what kind of strategies establish themselves and whether it actually changes football for the better or worse. Because I believe both options are equally likely. Something like the MLS could maybe try it as they're in a growing market and in my opinion have more wiggle room when it comes to experimentation.
@@singapuu7643You can put the line wherever you want and measure it however you want, by its own definition there will always be cases where players are millimetres offside, the best system we have is two extremely well trained and paid athletes to run up and down the side constantly watching and waving a flag if they spot offside, VAR can be helpful to the on field referee so long as the two VAR officials have a combined IQ higher than bath water temperature. In England we do not have such luxuries.
@@_Beamish Absolutely it won't change a thing about fans complaining, it would likely simply result in a different style of football. That's enough for me
@@singapuu7643 I truly don’t see how, you either keep the line in the same position (so literally no change has occurred) or you just move it a certain amount by redefining the rules on how the lines are drawn, you have the same problem you always had before only now you have changed why the line is drawn where it is, it doesn’t remove the irritating “1mm offside” nonsense even slightly as that is the literal outcome when measuring a line (for the sake of Maths)
@@_Beamish read the thread again, we were never talking about increasing the margin of error. It was always about an entirely different offside rule in which an opponent needs to entirely past the enemy defense line. You would still have the same var systems and close calls of today but it might allow players to position themselves more offensively or it might lead teams to play there defense rally far back. We don't know which strategy would dominate, therefore it could theoretically lead to better football (or worse)
@@famlomshalom7348you’re dreaming if you think Denmark would “probably” win if that goal had stood. Füllkrug was on and we saw how aggressive Germany were against Switzerland when pushing for the equalizer in a group game when they had already qualified. That was against Switzerland, a team far better than Denmark both on paper and performances so far. Germany would’ve gotten there in the end, Denmark had a few decent chances but overall Germany was clearly the better team
imagine if the Denmark goal counts though, and if Germany don't get the pen. Both were close calls. 'slip' is maybe a bit exaggerated but the point is that it wasn't comfortable
I think not qualifying for the last 2 world cups was an invitation for the Italian Federation to take a long hard look at itself. Except for Euro 2020, Italy has been terrible for several years now.
SO the handball isnt a penalty? but only by the letter of the law...but the first decision was right because kimmich standing still and the defender runs into him realizing he messed up? ^.- Bit ridiculous paco....
First decision was spot on. Kimmich blocked Schlotterbecks marker. It was pretty clear he knew what he was doing. The Germany penalty isn’t a penalty because the ball was going nowhere near an attacking player regardless of the minimal deflection. If anything the deflection made the cross look better than it was.
@@craigratiothat’s.. not how the rules work. He explained it pretty well in the video.. Andersen’s arm is outstretched and up, by every definition of the rules of football as they are laid out right now this is a handball and a penalty. We can discuss the need for changes to said rules, but as of right now that decision was objectively correct. The trajectory doesn’t matter, the contact with the hand and its position relative to the player does. Handball, like it or not
@@craigratioyeah yeah and also he didnt do it on purpose and thats what matters right and also he had to have his hand at shoulder height, there was just no other way to defend
what Italy could’ve sorely used in midfield was of course Jorginho, but also Verrati. His absence these few years from the national team have definitely been noticeable. he was on par to be a lower end Modric
Kimmich displayed some high level screening for the dissalowed goal. Too much NBA watching from Kimmich. Nico did a decent Toni Kroos impression. Sadly, he almost gave up a goal.
I’m not solely blaming Spaletti. Not enough time to develop a strong foundation and system. But he did pick these players, he chose to leave players like Locatelli at home. So he does deserve criticism for squad selection, but not solely performance.
Tbh germany got lucky but they where the much better team and desvered to go on. I know the referee was wierd that game but no one got robbed even if its by a toe it was offside I wouldnt give that penaltie but how the rules are you can give that. Even without that penalty germany was clearly better if havertz had a bit more luck he would have gone home with an hattrick.
The Danish coach himself said they got outplayed despite his anger over the ref decisions. But it’s just one of those things, they’re objectively correct decisions. Frustrating, but correct according to the rules of the game.
I am very disappointed with the result, congrats to the Swiss. Hopefully we can qualify for the next World Cup. And hey at least we won the last euros.
The offside situations are the least problematic. It is just that the precision increased beyond human perception. It is a clear rule that doesn't require any form of interpretation from the referee.
I'm still baffled how they picked up on a handball that doesn't really affect play again, like Belgium v Slovakia, but when it affected play in Romania v Belgium, the ref and VAR were like 😪😴🤤. I know we still topped our group but I'm still annoyed at that... why so much inconsistency?
because the rules are written in a different manner than they should. I agree it's not really cool to give a pen like that, we have to cut players some slack, a handball like the Denmark one can happen accidentally and it doesn't really do much in this situation, but it's per the rule book.
I guess you mean the Andersen handball? Cause that was 100% textbook handball. Arm moving upwards, stretched out, makes contact with the ball around shoulder height, and it's not even small contact, his entire hand began to flap. If that wasn't ruled as handball, football might as well turn into handball.
I'm shocked how Italy was favoured by so many. I gave then almost no hope and I was right. This is the worst Italian team possibly ever assembled. The Swiss have a very solid team.
As much as i think the ref got the major calls right per letter of the law it really felt like Germany got away with a lot more than we could. There were so many fouls in this match that would not have been called in other matches. But besides all that he should be lambasted for not stopping the game before the players started telling him to do so.
Even after winning the EUROs, Italy top teams keeps pumping out mediocre players like Gatti, Cambiasso, Frattesi, Bellanova, Fagioli, Di Lorenzo, Miretti, Pobega and for some reason they keep getting into the national team.
Switzerland took Italy's soul in first 15 min already by completely outplaying their press. They probably had Spain backflashes. You could see Italy fall back deeper and deeper and then it was over.
Bryan cristante couldn’t even crack a benfica starting role years ago and now is starting for Italy? I knew this team wouldn’t go far just by that alone lol
Italian football is doomed. All the players care about is their club and nothing else, same for the federation. There are less and less fans caring about the national team too, lowkey I think that if Spalletti called only people from Serie B teams and from the under 21, 19 or 17 teams, we would have played leagues better than the pitiful performance we had. There is a reason we missed the last two world cups. On top of that, FIFA is still making idiotic changes to their formats (the Nations League is useless and shouldn't be a thing), I fear the good days of international matches are over, this Euro is the most underwhelming I have ever seen in my entire life. The only top teams that are actually playing really well are Spain and Germany.
2012 Italy were very scary. Just because they got outplayed by Spain in the final doesn't mean they lacked attitude. Heck they won the Euros last time😂😂😂😂
I can't agree with the offside suggestion. At that point, offside traps and high lines lose in risk/reward considerations. That rule suggestion, as fair as it may be to give the benefit of the doubt to attackers, just promotes negative football.
The real issue here is not about the technology or the ref, but about the rules. They are not right for the game and not fair to the players or teams/nations. Offside should be when there is an advantage, not when a foot is turned the “wrong way” - advantage is when the weight and movement of the player is turned forward. Not the case here. Maybe the line should not be at the foot, but at the knee - biomechanically that would be way more telling of an advantage in play. About the hand - un unintentional hand shot at from close distance should never be a penalty - ubalanced consequence. Unless it Blocks a shot at goal of course. So proximity and intent should be considered. Penalty WAY too harsh of a deal to be dealt in that exchange. And game deciding.
After this analysis, I'll predict the Eidgenossen easily reaching the Semis If they play Slovakia, well, that's that right there, and if they play England, that's basically Italy all over again
Are you not aware of the offside rule changes they have discussed that speak about this? Guess not. You should read about them, because that's what I was speaking about. Apologies for assuming everyone is up to date.
That Danish player was offside though. If the ref uses VAR , he really has no other option than disallowing the goal, even if it's just the tip of Delaney's (was it Delaney?) shoe. Germany also had an early goal disallowed. No room to complain there because it's the refs decision and he said Kimmich obstructed the path of a Danish defender but in the Premier League or even the Bundesliga a lot of refs would have given that goal because the problem was really Schmeichel who looked bad against Schlotterbeck in that situation.
Yeah i have thougt about that why dont italy produce superstars anymore before they had players like Del Piero, Baggio, Totti, Maldini and Vieri. The Swiss team play as a team it was no way italy was going to win
In hindsight it looks like Italy previous Euro win is going to cost us more in the long term. Better they lost or maybe didn't qualify for this Euro and gut out the entire system and reap the rewards a decade on. Italian football needs an overhaul immediately!
I gotta somewhat disagree with your opinion on the handball in the ger-den game. It was the right call, because it was a dead on hand ball. If you properly watch the replay, you can see Andersen raising his arm, his arm is outstretched, away from his body and at shoulder heigt, and it hit his hand so clearly, that his entire hand began to flap. That is a dead on 100% handball. This sits 100% right. I also disagree with the "if it doesn't affect the game" part. That's the exact same sentiment that gives us diving and rolling around faking pain. The rules are also there to dissuade even trying it. I gotta agree though, that toe offside is bull. Full body is a bit much, but a whole leg would do. All in all, imo it should have been 3:1. The block by Kimmich as well as the offside by Andersen are both absolute bull calls.
Yes, I agree that it's a 100% hand ball and the right call. There are sometimes hand balls that still result in opportunities for the attacking team as the touch was absolutely minimal, so they just FEEL harsh. But I totally agree, it was a textbook handball call as his arm wasn't in a natural position close to his body.
We Italians must be ashamed of our team: we created NOTHING, we played like a 3rd category team for all of the matches in the euro, we've been hopeless all the time. Congratulations to the Swiss, they deserved to pass and they did so easily, we should've gone out against Croatia.
Damn. The Swiss were so mean they put out their whole team, and all Italy had on the field was their captain Donnarumma. 😔
Spalletti's tactics for 4 games was DOnnarumma + Calafiori v/s 11 opposition players
“damn the Swiss were so mean 🤓” I’m glad this shitty team is out. You guys got karma for knocking out Croatia. Karma is real.
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@@vinieditz1 surely you must have caught the obvious sarcasm
@@maciejbala477 ahh my bad he was being sarcastic. his claim sounds so dumb that I couldn’t even guess
Donnarumma had more ball possession than all of the rest of the Italian on field players
That pass from Schlotterbeck to Musiala deserves a mention. If the my team the Dutch don't go through I am hoping for an Austria vs Swiss semi final. Why Christante wasn't subbed after 30 minutes is beyond me. He was useless.
Only worthy mention from germany, as an englishman im more fearfull of the swiss than germany RN. Die duetsch will probably win but aus and swiss seem most inform teams atm tbf. Hopefully spain , portugal, belgium and france turn up
If kross had made that pass. We would be getting shoutouts all over
@@devilsolution9781as an Englishmen you should be scared of every Team that scored a goal this Euros
@@devilsolution9781as a Englishman you should not watch your team. You will fall asleep.
*Schlotterbeck btw
Schar, a defender, was dribbling past Italian players inside Italy’s box. That’s how little pressure Italy were putting on Switzerland around their own box. One of the worst performances I’ve seen from an Italy team. The amount of time and space they gave to Switzerland is unforgivable.
Schar does this 1-2 times a game no matter the opponent tbf. That's his thing. Scored some great goals for Newcastle this way.
I know Italy was horrendous but seriously, this was the best performance i have EVER seen from Switzerland. I am sooo happy rn.🇨🇭
Hop Schwyiz🇨🇭🇨🇭
My man didn't hold back on criticizing Italy 😅
Italy since 2006 can’t be just “good”. They’re either champions/finalists, or they are utter, total crap. This Euro 2024 team was possibly the worst Italia I’ve ever seen in my life, even worse than with Ventura. There are serious foundational problems in Calcio right now.
And this Italy thinks it's unfair they keep misisng the WCs?
@@falconeshield 2018 was a bit of bad luck as a result of having Spain in the same group.
2022 there was no bad luck, simply a team not good enough to score a single penalty against Switzerland (courtesy of Premier League superstar Jorginho).
I knew Italy wasn't that good, but I didn't think they were this bad and lazy. It was like watching a division 1 vs 3 team.
The Swiss team was just too good.
National teams need six players to be consistent starters. I don’t think Spalletti ever got to the point of making a decisive decision on what the nucleus of the team should be.
I love Spalletti as a Napoli fan he brought us a scudetto the first one since I was 2 but he has to go the constant changing lineups and some of the players he left home its just ridiculous this team was embarrassing to watch
Offside is offside.
If the ball touches the goal line even 1cm - will people say "Come on, that's too much" or "Yeah, it's not completely in. Whatchu guys want"?
I assume the latter so why are we so sensible to a regular offside?
Imagine them geting the goal: People would complain that technically it was an irregular goal.
Yes, because by introducing a "buffer zone", where a fixed distance between attacker and defender is considered as being "equal" and not considered as offside, we will introduce the same discussions and VAR decisions about the puffer zone, as we have now. Its just shifting the problem to a different definition of offside.
Offside is offside, no matter if its a millimeter or 10 meters. I completely agree.
Does being 1cm in front of the defender give you an advantage? Objectively no, so there is your answer.
@@1997lordofdoom Potentially yes. How often it is some cm that decide if you hit the ball right, if you control the pass, if you get the header before the defender.
So yes - it can make a difference.
And even if not - rules are rules.
So now we should discuss every rule just because we don't care?
@@Greg-cu8yo Puffer zone? Never heard that before. Is it implemented somewhere? Or what would the parametres be?
@@Greg-cu8yo yep, basically. There's always a line you draw somewhere. No matter how you interpret the offside rule, you still have to have a line. So the problems will absolutely persist. All you can do is to make this AI thing permanent and have instant calls for offside/not offside as with goal-line technology, then forget about it and just accept it. I don't think rewriting the outside rule to be based on interpretation would be a good thing, or that it would work any well
Are people forgetting the ball is literally chipped?
It clearly shows when it's experiencing force of being passed, hitting a hand, etc.
The decisions were objectively correct.
Whaf are talking about bro I don't see it???
Xhaka and Akanji are dominating the euros.
There are many aspects of the offside rule that I don't like, but I have no problem with where the line is drawn. It is clear. It is black and white. I think there will be more controversies if we change the rule so that the referee can decide whether the attacking player gains an advantage from an offside position.
As a Dane it really was from heaven to hell in 2 minutes. After the penalty we had push more forward to get the equalizer. It didn't really help our game having to do that. We're better on the counter and it opened up our defense too much as it does. But we had to try.
As a German, I think this is a good analysis of the match bc from my perspective it was hell to heaven lol I felt robbed seeing the 1:0 by Schlotterbeck disallowed but later on it was our turn to get the fortunate calls with the offside and penalty decision. Both calls were technically correct but extremely close and I know if Germany had been on the receiving end of those calls I would’ve been fuming. After Musiala’s goal I felt much more secure and it was definitely the result of Denmark pushing up the field, and I think we deserved the win in the end. But Denmark played very well in phases and I have great respect for the players and team. And Denmark as a country is great. Much respect 🇩🇪🤝🇩🇰
@@lukasp5892Yea, congratulations, certainly Germany was the better team, but that first penalty ... kindda shaddy !
@@victormarian7889 how is it “shady” tho? By every rule in the modern game that’s a handball and a penalty. Harsh but correct. Andersen’s hand was out and even slightly above his shoulder when the ball made contact, he was barely still running at the time the cross came in so it’s not that it was in a “natural” position. Just an unfortunate reflex on his part, nothing really shady about it. If you rewatch the clip you see he immediately pulls his hand down after the contact is made bc he knows he fucked up
@@lukasp5892 I have played the game a lot, his hand was in a normal position, there was no intent, it was from quite close range and the deviation it produced was minimal. Otherways it was a handball in the area, no doubt, so the penalty was legit, but for us, for example, against Belgium, a much more obvious handball in the area, with clear intent, was not sanctioned, but again, Belgium was better.
@@victormarian7889 I too have played the game a lot and even have done some refereeing in my time not professional refereeing but still.. his hand is not in a normal position given his movement off the ball beforehand. It’s outstretched and above his shoulder. It doesn’t matter that the deviation produced is “minimal” that would be a dangerously arbitrary metric to use when determining whether a foul should be called. There was enough contact for a hand ball decision and he knew it. The handball against Belgium should’ve been given too, just as the handball against Venezuela in the Copa America game with Jamaica. Two clear errors where I’m surprised VAR didn’t do its job properly. Belgium were the better team so what? Germany were the better team today as well, that doesn’t impact whether the decision should stand or not lol
None of these Italians (except Donnarumma) are leading lights for their clubs. The worst Italian teams with the one who lost to Slovakia in 2010 and Costa Rica in 2014. I forgot El Shaarawy existed, I thought it was 2013 again.
The problem is not the players this time. If you followed the past nine months since Spalletti took over, we’ve been changing formations and players at every game without a vision of any kind. It’s obvious to me that players cannot perform, even world class ones, when everything changes every time you play.
You don't need leading lights for any club - what good is that doing to England for example? You need a coach who accepts the limitations of his squad and plays accordingly. Conte had results with a team that featured Parolo, Giaccherini, Eder, Pellé and freaking de Sciglio! Bang average players but they fit beautifully within Conte's structure. What does Spalletti need to do anything, resurrect Paolo Rossi from the dead?
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the players are 100% the problem
there are only 2!!! good italian players that play in the Seria a
we were never gonna win this tournament anyway, WC 2026 is and has always been the target when appointing Spalle
10:30 I did alter the path tho. In the wild angle you could see the ball being deflected upwards
Fagioli over Jorginho, Spaletti go have your head checked. Who changes the team so much in a tournament. No pellegrini? Scamaca was useless. De lorenzo was the worst player of the tournament. Worst Italian team ever. I was so furious with the Spain match,this one gave me an aneurysm.
Fagioli is ok, he wasn’t the problem my guy. The problem was that ever since Spalletti came we’ve been changing formations and players every match. No clear vision for the team. Yes Di Lorenzo was awful and only played cause of bloody Spalletti.
Only fiagioli chiesa bastoni donaruma were giving their 100
@@forzajuventus6953 retegui too when he entered
Jorginho did so well in the 3 group stages, right? A corpse who is only in the squad because he plays in England.
@@roccociccone597exactly what Allegri did at Juve. No vision. No game plan. Chopping and changing the team all the time. On top of all of it, LS is an ignorant punk who has no idea how to handle the media.
Congratulations Germany and Switzerland.
Your predictions aged well. The Italians in the comments were heated 😂.
A shame tho how they went out coz Italy did okay in qualifying and they should have stuck to their guns but they looked so rattled after the Spain game and couldn't stop chopping and changing each game after. Full credit to Switzerland tho coz for as bad as Italy were, Switzerland were excellent on the day.
Mate we did in fact not do well in qualifying. Spalletti’s team has gotten progressively worse over the past 9 months. He kept changing formations and players. No wonder we had no coherent game plan or performance to speak of.
@@roccociccone597 Yeah he couldn't settle on an eventual team and system. And nah I don't think you did too badly in qualifying coz I'm referring to the performances themselves. Your team looked a lot more settled that's why I was surprised when he started changing everything after the Spain game coz I feel like he should have stuck to his guns win or lose. Coz yeah it wouldn't have changed the results automatically but the players seemed a lot more sure of themselves and sure of what they needed to do prior to all the tweaks and changes. But yeah they'll be back again 🫡. Now he's got two years to get them world cup ready.
Man the last groupstage game round and the 1/8th final safed my kicktipp round. So Im glad with the results Austria germany final dream still lives on
If there were italians that were saying we could beat easily switzerland they were just full on delusional, and i say this as an italian myself
There was no guns to stick to because Spalletti hasn't got a plan that's suited to this squad. And yes, it was a dominant, clinical performance from Switzerland.
You can clearly see that the ball changed its trajectory and flew much higher. I don't think Havertz would have gotten the ball otherwise, but I've seen penalties for much less.
imagine how different italy could’ve been with locatelli and verratti
Italy clearly has good players. They just need a consistent manager, not Spaletti who changes formation, tactics and line-up for every game
And tonali
Not much different, both players aren't good
And tonali
@@spammus1 What?? Verratti was the one who held the midfield together in 2021 when Barella and Jorginho were found wanting against Spain and England. At least he is able to retain the ball against pressure and will get stuck in to retrieve it.
Locatelli, indeed isn't good in Jorginho's role. But he's a decent attacking midfielder, something we didn't see with Pellegrini or Barella.
Italy from the first minute had no energy. Like they where physically and mentally exhausted. Also Anderson's handball did visibly change the trajectory of the ball inside the box. It was a textbook penalty.
italy players wasted 80% of their energy for their anthem
@@kaedeakamatsu6877 They do that in every tournament, the one thing that's different this time is the presence of an opinionated baldy man on the bench - one who said before the tournament that he would favour certain players (those of Inter) at the expense of others.
REAL SOCIEDAD FAN SPOTTED!!!!
donnaruma vs the Swiss
Yea, but ... alone !
In the last almost 2 years, only Brazil, Portugal and RoMaNiA managed to beat Switzerland. There are levels to this 😏🤫
Granit Xhaka's only losses this season are against Atalanta and Romania
@@samuelschonenberger Search for the last 2 seasons. Otherwise only Romania remains on the list. (I'm just kidding anyway, don't take me seriously)
Saying Switzerland would finish 4th in the group to then knocking out the reining champs is certainly a rough prediction
The lounge-jazz beats in the background is helping me cope while I drink.
Pitiful Azzurri. What a crash. That was a crime scene.
They heard they’d catch Mambo Italiano on the flight home if they bottled it, who can blame them
'Adjusting history' what the... You either have rules and the they can now be detected with technology or you go with the 'spirit of game' and you get decisions that are clearly wrong.
The blocking from Kimmich looks like something you see with most corner kicks. That was a harsh call as the defender was too far anyway from Schlotterbeck to make a difference... but it doesn't suit your narrative, does it?
nope, there's always a middle ground between both nowadays. VAR can only do so much because it's actual humans who have to make decisions in the end, and there's no clear rules for some things. And I think you're definitely jumping the gun there with your aggressive accusations lol. Adrian has opinions, i sometimes don't agree with them, doesn't mean he has an agenda
Congratulations Spalletti for creating the most spineless, passive Italian team ever. And don't give me the "squad has no talent" excuse: the 2012 and 2016 squads were also devoid of talent but Prandelli and Conte made it work with simple instructions. Spalletti set the tone from even before the tournament when he said clearly he would favour Inter's players over the rest.
Lmaoook great prediction bro! Swiss have a plan and identity and Italy did not throughout . We just hoped for some individual brilliance from Chiesa or Barella and donnaruma heroics to keep us in games and hope something finally clicks. It never did and it shouldn’t have been that surprising! Good luck to the Swiss !
Counter arguement to the offside rule change: If the whole body of the attacker has to be ahead to be offside, less defences will play a high line, meaning less attacking and high pressing football, more defences sitting back.
I would personally like to see one league take a gamble and try a different offside rule, so we can find out what kind of strategies establish themselves and whether it actually changes football for the better or worse. Because I believe both options are equally likely. Something like the MLS could maybe try it as they're in a growing market and in my opinion have more wiggle room when it comes to experimentation.
@@singapuu7643You can put the line wherever you want and measure it however you want, by its own definition there will always be cases where players are millimetres offside, the best system we have is two extremely well trained and paid athletes to run up and down the side constantly watching and waving a flag if they spot offside, VAR can be helpful to the on field referee so long as the two VAR officials have a combined IQ higher than bath water temperature. In England we do not have such luxuries.
@@_Beamish Absolutely it won't change a thing about fans complaining, it would likely simply result in a different style of football. That's enough for me
@@singapuu7643 I truly don’t see how, you either keep the line in the same position (so literally no change has occurred) or you just move it a certain amount by redefining the rules on how the lines are drawn, you have the same problem you always had before only now you have changed why the line is drawn where it is, it doesn’t remove the irritating “1mm offside” nonsense even slightly as that is the literal outcome when measuring a line (for the sake of Maths)
@@_Beamish read the thread again, we were never talking about increasing the margin of error. It was always about an entirely different offside rule in which an opponent needs to entirely past the enemy defense line. You would still have the same var systems and close calls of today but it might allow players to position themselves more offensively or it might lead teams to play there defense rally far back. We don't know which strategy would dominate, therefore it could theoretically lead to better football (or worse)
We were terrible and didn't expect us to go through, I hope we'll return in the next world cup
Di certo non con Spalletti e Gravina. E da 4 ore che sto tirando santi a non finire.
@frafrafrafrafra england have been terrible as well
If havertz could finish he could have had 3-4 goals.. could have been a blow out. Credit to the Danes good game.
completely agree regarding the offside and handball rules
germany SLIP PAST denmark? what XD? That must be a joke right?^^^
They had 3 goals? One disallowed?denmark had one...disallowed.
actually it was 4 goals
Clear that they lost momentum after the disallowed goal, Denmark probably win if that stands
@@famlomshalom7348cope
@@famlomshalom7348you’re dreaming if you think Denmark would “probably” win if that goal had stood. Füllkrug was on and we saw how aggressive Germany were against Switzerland when pushing for the equalizer in a group game when they had already qualified. That was against Switzerland, a team far better than Denmark both on paper and performances so far. Germany would’ve gotten there in the end, Denmark had a few decent chances but overall Germany was clearly the better team
imagine if the Denmark goal counts though, and if Germany don't get the pen. Both were close calls. 'slip' is maybe a bit exaggerated but the point is that it wasn't comfortable
As a german, i believe none of us would have been happy if the Penalty was the only goal.
But happily it wasnt
For Italy to play a guy named "El Shaarawy" is wild
Jorginho did nothing in past few matches in midfield. But since many of us wondering why he was not included shows how weak this entire squad was.
I think not qualifying for the last 2 world cups was an invitation for the Italian Federation to take a long hard look at itself. Except for Euro 2020, Italy has been terrible for several years now.
Nice Real Sociedad shirt.
For people saying Italy can beat Germany you smoking that big pole.
any team can technically beat any team. Georgia could yet win the Euros, why not? whether it's likely is a whole different matter though lol
@@maciejbala477Fair point.
Italy can’t.
No need to give attackers anymore of an advantage
SO the handball isnt a penalty? but only by the letter of the law...but the first decision was right because kimmich standing still and the defender runs into him realizing he messed up? ^.-
Bit ridiculous paco....
First decision was spot on. Kimmich blocked Schlotterbecks marker. It was pretty clear he knew what he was doing.
The Germany penalty isn’t a penalty because the ball was going nowhere near an attacking player regardless of the minimal deflection.
If anything the deflection made the cross look better than it was.
@@craigratiothat’s.. not how the rules work. He explained it pretty well in the video.. Andersen’s arm is outstretched and up, by every definition of the rules of football as they are laid out right now this is a handball and a penalty. We can discuss the need for changes to said rules, but as of right now that decision was objectively correct. The trajectory doesn’t matter, the contact with the hand and its position relative to the player does. Handball, like it or not
@@craigratioyeah yeah and also he didnt do it on purpose and thats what matters right and also he had to have his hand at shoulder height, there was just no other way to defend
It’s handball not if the trajectory of the ball changed y the hand ball anyway. As a defender when your in the box always tuck your hands
what Italy could’ve sorely used in midfield was of course Jorginho, but also Verrati. His absence these few years from the national team have definitely been noticeable. he was on par to be a lower end Modric
Kimmich displayed some high level screening for the dissalowed goal. Too much NBA watching from Kimmich.
Nico did a decent Toni Kroos impression. Sadly, he almost gave up a goal.
Italy lost when they didn’t play Jorginho no tempo in their midfield
I’m not solely blaming Spaletti. Not enough time to develop a strong foundation and system. But he did pick these players, he chose to leave players like Locatelli at home. So he does deserve criticism for squad selection, but not solely performance.
Tbh germany got lucky but they where the much better team and desvered to go on. I know the referee was wierd that game but no one got robbed even if its by a toe it was offside I wouldnt give that penaltie but how the rules are you can give that. Even without that penalty germany was clearly better if havertz had a bit more luck he would have gone home with an hattrick.
Yeah even if all the goals in that game where allowed it would look even worse for Denmark point wise
The Danish coach himself said they got outplayed despite his anger over the ref decisions. But it’s just one of those things, they’re objectively correct decisions. Frustrating, but correct according to the rules of the game.
Thank you for the daily updates. Uninspired match by Italy.
Adrian, those Porto colors look very good on you.
Real socieadad jersey
I am very disappointed with the result, congrats to the Swiss. Hopefully we can qualify for the next World Cup. And hey at least we won the last euros.
The fact that Switzerland almost won against Germany and now knocked out italy makes me believe they are one of the top contenders for this Euros
It felt like GER-DEN was a match of "higher powers" - from the weather to the gods of VAR. Many cases of "Well, it's crazy, but it is what it is 🤷♂"
I didn't see Italy pass the group stage,. That game vs Spain was, well I don't know what to call it..
The offside situations are the least problematic. It is just that the precision increased beyond human perception. It is a clear rule that doesn't require any form of interpretation from the referee.
I'm still baffled how they picked up on a handball that doesn't really affect play again, like Belgium v Slovakia, but when it affected play in Romania v Belgium, the ref and VAR were like 😪😴🤤. I know we still topped our group but I'm still annoyed at that... why so much inconsistency?
because the rules are written in a different manner than they should. I agree it's not really cool to give a pen like that, we have to cut players some slack, a handball like the Denmark one can happen accidentally and it doesn't really do much in this situation, but it's per the rule book.
I guess you mean the Andersen handball? Cause that was 100% textbook handball. Arm moving upwards, stretched out, makes contact with the ball around shoulder height, and it's not even small contact, his entire hand began to flap. If that wasn't ruled as handball, football might as well turn into handball.
I'm shocked how Italy was favoured by so many. I gave then almost no hope and I was right. This is the worst Italian team possibly ever assembled. The Swiss have a very solid team.
As much as i think the ref got the major calls right per letter of the law it really felt like Germany got away with a lot more than we could. There were so many fouls in this match that would not have been called in other matches.
But besides all that he should be lambasted for not stopping the game before the players started telling him to do so.
Even after winning the EUROs, Italy top teams keeps pumping out mediocre players like Gatti, Cambiasso, Frattesi, Bellanova, Fagioli, Di Lorenzo, Miretti, Pobega and for some reason they keep getting into the national team.
Switzerland took Italy's soul in first 15 min already by completely outplaying their press. They probably had Spain backflashes. You could see Italy fall back deeper and deeper and then it was over.
I knew italy would struggle just from the albania match. We were a joke. Ppl have to realise we rnt a top team anymore.
If your playing Cristante in midfielder then you know Italy going for lose.
Milan fans meanwhile celebrating Donnarumma lost the match
Damn really no coverage of the Copa America?
Bryan cristante couldn’t even crack a benfica starting role years ago and now is starting for Italy? I knew this team wouldn’t go far just by that alone lol
italy has given up. their serie a is 2/3 foreign players and the fans, the clubs, they don't seem to care. so sad.
Italy were shocking to say the least. And i hope a big ucl club picks up Vargas. The guy can play.
They didn’t treat Bolatelli right, now this is their punishment
You predicted Swiss to crash out of the group stage in the 4th place 😂
Italian football is doomed. All the players care about is their club and nothing else, same for the federation. There are less and less fans caring about the national team too, lowkey I think that if Spalletti called only people from Serie B teams and from the under 21, 19 or 17 teams, we would have played leagues better than the pitiful performance we had. There is a reason we missed the last two world cups.
On top of that, FIFA is still making idiotic changes to their formats (the Nations League is useless and shouldn't be a thing), I fear the good days of international matches are over, this Euro is the most underwhelming I have ever seen in my entire life. The only top teams that are actually playing really well are Spain and Germany.
Idk how Italy always lacks attitude in major tournaments (since their 06 WC win). I’d bet they won’t make the next World Cup as well!!
That’s not true what so ever. 2012 euros final, 2016 quarterfinal and 2021 we won it.
2012 Italy were very scary. Just because they got outplayed by Spain in the final doesn't mean they lacked attitude. Heck they won the Euros last time😂😂😂😂
I can't agree with the offside suggestion. At that point, offside traps and high lines lose in risk/reward considerations. That rule suggestion, as fair as it may be to give the benefit of the doubt to attackers, just promotes negative football.
How arrogant are the Italians? They expected to beat Switzerland.
The real issue here is not about the technology or the ref, but about the rules. They are not right for the game and not fair to the players or teams/nations. Offside should be when there is an advantage, not when a foot is turned the “wrong way” - advantage is when the weight and movement of the player is turned forward. Not the case here. Maybe the line should not be at the foot, but at the knee - biomechanically that would be way more telling of an advantage in play. About the hand - un unintentional hand shot at from close distance should never be a penalty - ubalanced consequence. Unless it Blocks a shot at goal of course. So proximity and intent should be considered. Penalty WAY too harsh of a deal to be dealt in that exchange. And game deciding.
Ruben Vargas!! North Americans representing in Europe!
After this analysis, I'll predict the Eidgenossen easily reaching the Semis
If they play Slovakia, well, that's that right there, and if they play England, that's basically Italy all over again
I agree with you on Denmark both offside goal and penalty Denmark didn't deserve this result. after that they started falling apart
I feel a little targeted by that intro 😂😂😂
10:11 “the whole body should have to be in front of the defender 🤓” uhm ok mate 💀
Are you not aware of the offside rule changes they have discussed that speak about this? Guess not. You should read about them, because that's what I was speaking about. Apologies for assuming everyone is up to date.
How was the disallowed German goal a right call? The Danish defender literally ran at Kimmich.
Guess you never heard of obstruction 😂
Disappointed Dane here. I really appreciate your fair analysis of these matches.
That Danish player was offside though. If the ref uses VAR , he really has no other option than disallowing the goal, even if it's just the tip of Delaney's (was it Delaney?) shoe.
Germany also had an early goal disallowed. No room to complain there because it's the refs decision and he said Kimmich obstructed the path of a Danish defender but in the Premier League or even the Bundesliga a lot of refs would have given that goal because the problem was really Schmeichel who looked bad against Schlotterbeck in that situation.
Is phalloimitator sacked already? Problem is that I am not sure he's gonna be out for this disasterous performance.
He never carried the right team so much success with Bellanova in warm up, no locatelli hmmm. Even the veteran midfielder Bonaventura.
Damn, that first match gives me hope for romania vs netherlands :)
Yes. Don't start Calafiori. Makes sense.
Yeah i have thougt about that why dont italy produce superstars anymore before they had players like Del Piero, Baggio, Totti, Maldini and Vieri.
The Swiss team play as a team it was no way italy was going to win
In hindsight it looks like Italy previous Euro win is going to cost us more in the long term. Better they lost or maybe didn't qualify for this Euro and gut out the entire system and reap the rewards a decade on. Italian football needs an overhaul immediately!
I feel like Italy tried to play for pens.
I gotta somewhat disagree with your opinion on the handball in the ger-den game. It was the right call, because it was a dead on hand ball. If you properly watch the replay, you can see Andersen raising his arm, his arm is outstretched, away from his body and at shoulder heigt, and it hit his hand so clearly, that his entire hand began to flap. That is a dead on 100% handball. This sits 100% right. I also disagree with the "if it doesn't affect the game" part. That's the exact same sentiment that gives us diving and rolling around faking pain. The rules are also there to dissuade even trying it.
I gotta agree though, that toe offside is bull. Full body is a bit much, but a whole leg would do.
All in all, imo it should have been 3:1. The block by Kimmich as well as the offside by Andersen are both absolute bull calls.
Yes, I agree that it's a 100% hand ball and the right call. There are sometimes hand balls that still result in opportunities for the attacking team as the touch was absolutely minimal, so they just FEEL harsh. But I totally agree, it was a textbook handball call as his arm wasn't in a natural position close to his body.
We Italians must be ashamed of our team: we created NOTHING, we played like a 3rd category team for all of the matches in the euro, we've been hopeless all the time. Congratulations to the Swiss, they deserved to pass and they did so easily, we should've gone out against Croatia.
Germany don't scare anybody. And even less Spain. They see
Spalletti left Napoli just for this? 💀
The bias is clearly there, neutral he says...
Ngl, I'm happy with both results today 🙂
The espagueti has been broken and cooked with suice cheese
Not people slandering the Roma players that Mourinho was supposed to use and win the UCL 😄
Italy used to be the heaven of football but since Zidane affair in 2006.. they re cursed …
The LITERALLY WON THE EUROS😂😂😂
And Balotelli