Kawasaki Ninja 125 | What Happens When You Remove The Muffler? (Experiment)

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  • Welcome to our video testing the Kawasaki Ninja 125 without an exhaust silencer! In today's episode, we do a sound and ride test on the Ninja 125 without the muffler. Is it worth doing, or should you pay for an aftermarket slip on exhaust instead? Lets find out!
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  • @rclegendsuk3235
    @rclegendsuk3235 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    I had this bike when I first started riding, I put a dominator full system on it and it actually sounded unreal for a 125. Shoots flames and pops and bangs in every gear. Was well fun when I was younger

  • @danlaver-vq6ke
    @danlaver-vq6ke 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    Loud exhaust is a must, in my opinion, especially with the lack of drivers who actually use their mirrors and indicators these days. I run a gsxr k2 600 with a SP ENGINEERING slip-on exhaust, and it's loud, why, so car/van drivers know I'm there and don't just pull out on me using the excuse that they didn't see or hear me. Loud pipes save life's. 98db static- over 115db at 6000 rpm , can't say you didn't hear that 😂

    • @fastlifeforever3488
      @fastlifeforever3488 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Straight facts

    • @lerois1176
      @lerois1176 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      When the car is in front of you he can't hear anything if he is in back of you you destroy his hear

    • @danlaver-vq6ke
      @danlaver-vq6ke 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @lerois1176 if I had a £1 for every car/van driver who's pulled out on me because their either on their phone or just not paying attention, I'd be a very rich man, especially with drivers who are on their phone's because their so thick they don't understand how dangerous it actually is, and they shouldn't be on the roads period. If/when I come across those drivers, I make myself very much known by the sound of my exhaust, they soon realise I'm there.

    • @WorldGoods
      @WorldGoods 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They can't hear you if they infront

  • @mikerope5785
    @mikerope5785 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    always should be an aftermarket exhaust specific to the bike, so the pipe lengths and pressure is correct for the tune. Otherwise engine can overheat from a lean condition and runs like garbage.

  • @prodbydavis
    @prodbydavis หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i think when i had a look at an akrapovic exhaust for my cbr 125 back in 2016/17 when i started riding and it said something like +0.4hp

  • @233kosta
    @233kosta หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dat rubber duck tho... 🤣

  • @ethancknight
    @ethancknight 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yeah removing muffler is definitely not way to go. Slip on will provide sound without tanking performance. lol

  • @233kosta
    @233kosta หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I once saw a guy take the whole system off a CBF125. Made it sound very silly 😅
    Bit like a machine that spits out potatoes with compressed air (cartoon potato machinegun?) 🤣

  • @darranturner9189
    @darranturner9189 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Get the black widow 400mm it sounds loud and pops and bangs like hell but it's designed that way so way much better than de muffling it like you said due to power loss, p.s your right the factory exhaust tail weighs a ton, probably as heavy as the bike 👀 keep up the great work with the videos pal 👌

  • @markpearman2631
    @markpearman2631 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I ride a 1200 Yamaha and the thing I hate is really noisy learner bikes. We all have to start somewhere but that sounds awful

    • @dgw4150
      @dgw4150 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Agreed

  • @Decrepit_biker
    @Decrepit_biker หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Tell me you don't understand how pulse tuning works without telling me you don't understand how pulse tuning works.........😂

    • @233kosta
      @233kosta หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      In fairness, it's "Goblin Rides", not "Goblin Tunes Exhausts", but still kinda funny

    • @marcwilkinson3249
      @marcwilkinson3249 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      How does pulse tuning work?

    • @benmanning4340
      @benmanning4340 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      If you want a 125 thats makes good power get a 2 stroke!

    • @233kosta
      @233kosta 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@marcwilkinson3249 Pressure waves are kind of like waves in the sea. They go positive, then negative, they reflect off harsh changes in geometry and they affect the flow of gas.
      In this case, we use the reflection from a big change in diameter, which occurs when pipe becomes air, to reflect a big chunk of the exhaust pulse wave. The hack is timing it so that the negative part of that pulse arrives just in time to help evacuate the cylinder properly. That'd be just before the exhaust valve shuts. That gets the most gas out of there, making the most room for fresh charge. Hence you get the most power.
      In two stroke engines, there's a special chamber shaped like two horns stuck together at the fat end, which sets up this exact sort of pressure wave condition, except in those we want the positive part to be timed with the exhaust port, so it shoves the leaked charge back in the cylinder and provides a bit of extra compression.
      This timing is sensitive to things like gas temperature (which will affect the local speed of sound), exhaust pipe temperature (which affects gas temperature), engine rpm (which dictates the reflection time _required_ for optimum operation) and valve timing (which should be set up to work with the pulses).
      These things are generally tuned to operate for some preferred optimum power band. On a 600 supersport, that'll be tuned for maximum top end. On an MT-07 - for mid range. The effect is most pronounced with two stroke engines, as those have the least amount of mechanical control over the process. That's why they have such distinct power bands which drop off to almost nothing on either side.
      Some systems aim for multiple peaks, to broaden the torque curve for a nice flat responce. Those will use multiple sources of reflection to achieve that. For example, a 4-2-1 pipe will naturally reflect in two places, plus the catalytic converter (if you don't de-cat), plus some resonance between the first (4->2) and second (2->1) joint (because reflections work both ways), plus maybe something off the muffler (depending on type). The joints will be most pronounced and will probably be what gets tuned. The resonance is weak (as pressure waves tend to dissipate), the cat is more of a hinderance (but needed for emissions) and the muffler is kind of far away, if it does anything at all (some are straight pipes with holes and noise damping rather than proper forced resonators). It's only this radical on the Ninja 125, because it's a single, so there are no big sudden changes in diameter until the end of the muffler (which vents to atmosphere).

    • @JayDutch-UK-MK
      @JayDutch-UK-MK 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@233kosta looks like you need to do some videos to educate us mere mortals, i need another horse or two for my bike

  • @d4zzyb0y
    @d4zzyb0y 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It sounds like a small bike without an exhaust, nothing like a race bike sound.

  • @slobolobo948
    @slobolobo948 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ive never really liked the sound of low cc singles without the exhaust. I think its probably the pitch being too high, when you have the larger singles they sound much better.
    Edit. That being said if it puts a smile on your face then why not.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's seems to sound better if the engine is in a very high state of tune. Maybe it's the higher compression. But in general you can hear these 125's struggling and the louder exhaust just makes it worse.

  • @bearwolffish
    @bearwolffish หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sensible souls will see title and have to comment.
    Sounds good compared to a regular 125, for sure a little obnoxious. One for fun days.
    10:00 so nice.

  • @IanCoomer
    @IanCoomer 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The exhaust, particularly the back box / muffler, whatever you choose to call it. Makes a considerable difference to the performance of a motorbike, especially smaller CC bikes. My experience is solely with 2 stroke bikes, so I can't attest to what the situation would be in relation to newer, more modern, 4 stroke bikes of any size engine.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A micron full pipe on a 2 stroke was night and day different. On a 4 stroke it would damb near no difference. If its louder its probably making less power.

    • @IanCoomer
      @IanCoomer วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@chrishart8548 absolutely, mate. Even with an extremely high-performance engine producing massive horsepower, professionally tuning to within an unheard of its life. The increase in performance from any exhaust is negligible at best.

  • @kentishmale1969
    @kentishmale1969 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The "muffler" 🤦🤦

  • @233kosta
    @233kosta หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The length of the pipes in the muffler will have been tuned for optimum scavanging to get you that last bit of power. If you replace it with a straight pipe of the same length, it should work fine engine-management-wise. She would gain all her power back. But she'll still sound downright silly. Not something I would personally do.

    • @Decrepit_biker
      @Decrepit_biker หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes exactly, pulse tuning and exhaust scavenging....

  • @JayDutch-UK-MK
    @JayDutch-UK-MK หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We dont call them mufflers here in the UK !!!
    not good for the hearing and you can get a ASBO.
    Silencers are good thing.

    • @233kosta
      @233kosta หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can you imagine Goblin with an ASBO 😂

    • @JayDutch-UK-MK
      @JayDutch-UK-MK หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@233kosta it would make for a good video 😂

    • @JayDutch-UK-MK
      @JayDutch-UK-MK 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@233kosta yes ASBO would get him 100k more subs in no time, badge of honour

    • @233kosta
      @233kosta 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@JayDutch-UK-MK It would be, yeh 😁

  • @lockeM140
    @lockeM140 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    More noise than power

  • @GunsBlazing007
    @GunsBlazing007 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    sounds like my ttr125 when straight piped lol

  • @Odder-Being
    @Odder-Being 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The engine reacts real slow blipping the throttle. Is that how it is with this bike or is there something wrong?

    • @xHeaveny
      @xHeaveny 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yep, because the lamba is confused

    • @Odder-Being
      @Odder-Being 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@xHeaveny Why would the lambda sensor be confused, its not mounted in the muffler.

  • @Klayborn1
    @Klayborn1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sounds like a minibike

  • @virtuosomuso
    @virtuosomuso 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    sounds like the revs are hanging a bit , probably running to lean now ,

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I bet its a fair bit slower like this.

  • @Ukmongoose3
    @Ukmongoose3 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sounds like my KTM

  • @Lew699
    @Lew699 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    125s in the uk are really not built for tall people , most who get a 125 in the uk are 17 and are 6ft or over tall , we flat foot and have a bend in our knees , the suspension compressed to much because of it , why cant there be a full size frame , tires exct and just a 125 engine?!

  • @JayDutch-UK-MK
    @JayDutch-UK-MK หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please can you do a video Supercharging or turbo charging the 125cc. Now that would be a a awesome video

    • @opt5765
      @opt5765 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You a d0mb0ss?

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That would actually be interesting. My friend as turbo charged a suzuki 1250 bandit on carbs and a new katana

  • @theroach2204
    @theroach2204 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sounds like a louder version of my Z, I got a GRmoto exhaust that still provides back pressure.

  • @ScofaUK
    @ScofaUK 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    did this back in 2001 on my Suzuki TS-50, until the headmaster told me to sort it out.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I had a Dep sport on my TS50X

  • @buttsyburnbob
    @buttsyburnbob วันที่ผ่านมา

    Anyone who drives a 4stroke 125 over a aprillia 125cc blows my mind 😅😅 these are so slow in comparison these bearly hit 80s aprillias live in the 120s

  • @LakesEnduro
    @LakesEnduro 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sounds pretty good for a 125 mate eh? Not as good as a two stroke mind like on my channel😂👌🏻

    • @buttsyburnbob
      @buttsyburnbob วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yh these are pretty laughable there's a reason 2 stroke 125s race 250 4 strokes but nobody learns 😅

  • @twofourseven365phoreber
    @twofourseven365phoreber 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i really wish they sell this in India

  • @user-pk2ge7py3s
    @user-pk2ge7py3s 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its not a muffler its a silencer, more americanisms....
    Why would you do that
    Buy an aftermarket
    SILENCER or can!!

  • @pjdava
    @pjdava หลายเดือนก่อน

    Goblin RIDES, You're fantastic! Let's be friends and have fun!

  • @adolfgerhardhermann5952
    @adolfgerhardhermann5952 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    When I see people with this "haircut" working on something....