Termite Bait Station vs Liquid Termite Treatment
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- In this video I break down the differences and advantages of termite bait stations and liquid termite treatments.
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Here's an overview of this video. Basically, termite bait stations and liquid chemical treatments both work! They are more similar than they are different. Bait stations store the termite poison in stations around the perimeter of a structure while liquid treatments treat the soil directly.
Bait stations are a quicker solution for installation, they don't use as much chemical, and they are newer technology. Liquid treatments are a long term solution, use more chemical, and are traditional treatments.
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Hi Dan, I don't think this is an issue based on how they work, but I just wanted to double check. Can you tell me if bait stations are safe to use near a well, or how far away is the safe distance.
Hope you guys liked this video! Both treatments are great options when preformed by professionals. Just be sure to probably install and treat and you will be termite free soon
Dan can i have your email please
A 2yr old new construction on a slab with bait termite protection. No one has come out to inspect, are inspections annual with a slab foundation?
The baits just don't really work
You were fair! Best info for consumers I've seen on TH-cam because you tried to be objective more than most who primarily say dont use bait. Oh by the way senitrcon has been used commercially since 1995 and has been upgraded a few times since then where it goes in with active termiticide from day one.Thank you.
@@ivorinebrown7627 contact the builder about the pretreatment and get the warranty as well as info from the pest control company. Good luck.
The best video about termites for the diy homeowner.
Thank you!
I would get a company to install sentricon in case you do get termite damage in your home, they usually warrant repairs and retreat the property. Typically an annual renewal fee of 250$ or 300$
@@bloopereel33 yeah my warranty just went up to $550 a year that’s why I’m here. Why pay for a warranty when I can check bait stations and treat myself as needed.
@@bloopereel33my company doesn’t cover or warrant repairs caused by future termite damage.
The Sentricon stations are always active. The "bait" is very durable cellulose material with the active chemical being noviflumeron which stops the termite from molting.
They don't attract termites at first but termites are random foragers. They are constantly searching for food up to 100 yards from the colony. Once they find the station they will use pheromones to mark it as a food source. It's very effective. The University of Florida has multiple studies showing it's efficacy.
Good info overall in the video. You have a good head for the business. Great advice at the end.
And Dr Roger Gold found Termidor to be much more effective then Sentricon (aka overpriced revenue maker)
Also I lived in a townhome and my neighbor had an active termite tube that I popped open OVER A MONTH after Sentricon was installed liquid > bait stations
My experience is they are unreliable compared to Taurus or Termidor
First time here, just bought a house and glad this was the first video I found! Top info, thanks for the great video!
Here's my take on the choices. I live in Thailand in a circa 1,000 sq. ft house. The climate is tropical and similar to the southern USA but with more rain. I opted for bait stations because of the standing groundwater which occurs so often. Last year I installed 20 bait stations around the house and found termites in 16 within the first two weeks. I baited the stations and effectively eradicated them within 3 months including the removal of a 2 meter long mound on the property. This winter was very wet again and after the groundwater dropped I rebaited the stations. This time 7 out of the 20 stations showed infestations. I choose the bait stations because of the flexibility of dealing with persistent infestations. I could never afford the cost of the liquids required. With global climate changes housing construction policies have to change to begin building houses on raised pillars again to mitigate infestations.
Video and info could not have been better. Over the top, great job!
I have almost 37 years experience in the business. There’s nothing that comes close to Termidor SC. Not Termidor HE and definitely not Taurus SC and unfortunately the big national companies have evolved termite baits into a money making racket. If you have baits and the company is checking them more than a every 2 months basis you are being ripped off. I tried Taurus SC a couple years ago and had a 100% retreat rate. With Termidor HE its always worked but can take upwards of a year to get full control but with Termidor SC and almost 23 years of use it has a 0% retreat rate, yes zero.
So liquid termidor SC is the best??
Have you ever used Navigator SC? It has 9.1% fipronil.
I can’t order it to my state; so now what
Taurus had same active ingredients though???
@@ZomBeatBrainZTaurus works amazing don’t listen to him, stuck in his ways after 37 years. Termidor HE also works amazing.
This is an excellent, detailed, thorough and understandable presentation. You have a bright future in your profession!
Great explanation young guy.
Thanks, This was great, you did a good job. I am going to check some more of your videos on bug pest control also.
Thank you very much for all your time and information. Much appreciated.
I've been getting liquid treatment every single year since 2020. Had another 2021_22_23_& having it tomorrow 24. I have stumps they are eating on. I had termites in my home in 2020 and had to get it treated to save the house. Since then I've gone with every single year. Addressed the issue of water damage in the home. The home is nice & dry & I haven't had any issues with them but when I see Swarms every year I freak out. They only inspect my home every 3 years. Strange. Mobile Alabama very humid here
Hey Dan, great channel. What about granules like what Bayer makes that has Imidacloprid and then just spread around base of house 6" and then lightly water?
Thank you
So much to learn from this. He explained well the pros and cons. Thank you for sharing this informative and educative video.
On sentricon the bait if not eaten and still intact you don’t need to change the page but it does need to be monitored once A year
This! Work for a pest control company and I was wondering if anyone stated this.
The Trelona bait system in 2023 is the best bait system on the market today because it has an almost pure cellulose bait and is highly attractive to termites because of the high cellulose content--also the material that kills out the colony is an IGR with no toxicity to mammals. It is best for prevention but in most circumstances needs to be used in conjunction with a Termidor liquid treatment if termites are well inside the structure.
Interesting factoid: The active ingredient in Termidor is Fipronil (9.1%). The same Fipronil is used in topical flea and tick liquid used on pets (9.8%).
Yep, this is always a good fact to point out to customers that are paranoid you’ll poison there pets
Just whip out the Ol’ frontline flea topical label
A BASF rep told me a decade ago that fleas have an 80% resistance rate because of misuse by consumers. Most people have moved on from Frontline although back in the day it was like a gift from above.
Great video! Question: is the liquid chemical safe for kids and pets? Is it safe for grow vegetables later on the same soil? Thank you!
There is a third option: Bora-Care treatment for the foundation and first two feet of lumber of your home (attic too if you’re in an area with flying termites). Borate-based treatments are WAY more eco-friendly than soil or bait stations, it lasts for the life of your house, and it protects your wood from more than just termites (wood boring beetles, mold, rot). The wood in your house is what you want to protect, may as well treat it directly!
Good video. Thank you for creating it. I have just recently found I have a termite issue - at least it looks like one - and if you were near me, I'd hire you guys to do the job.
Termite season is just around the corner. Usually starts in April!
It’ll be here soon
Termite season is year round have found them in bait stations even in winter temperature under 32 degrees as well as in structures. Swarm season is coming and starts depending on how far south you live. Termites can swarm even in cold months if conditions are right for them they stay active year round searching for food sources and even if its cold wood is a good insulator and provide them some protection from cold. Be vigilant.
My termite renewal is coming up in March 2023 for $350.00. I called the company, and they lowered it to $215.00. They have installed 15 bait stations. Is this worth renewing, or should I do it on my own? What's your take?
Do they offer a repair and retreatment warranty on the treatment?
Painting bedrooms and found 3 rooms with drywall damage and one room with active bugs eating drywall paper. Plus there was one day swarmers were seen in that active room. House on a slab and Orkin drilled inside house through the foundation every 10-12 inches only on the obviously effected walls plus drilled into drywall down low and injected foam only on effected walls. They didn't trench outside but just squirted the Termidor every foot or more around the outside perimeter. Is it safe to assume the critters have been terminated? Should we still do annual inspection and further treatments only if activity is spotted? Appreciate any comments.
Orkin inspector here, im curious to why they didnt trench, but yes depending on the slab your on those other treatments they did were necessary and also has residual affect
@kevinyoung947 I believe they said they could've done either but in our case trenching would've been more as a preventive measure all around where the injecting every foot was more of what was needed in our case. Probably just a story IMO. Orkin was very proactive in that they came back 2 times for further treatment within a month to treat a north side of the house that couldn't be treated because we had an underground concrete cistern water supply 5 feet from the garage wall. We hooked up to city water and collapsed the cistern and Orkin was gracious enough to come back and treat that outside garage foundation.
@kevinyoung947 Oh, forgot to say, Orkin said trenching was more for eliminating all other kinds of bugs like carpenter ants of which we had no symptoms of other bugs.
What would excessive moister be? I don’t have gutters so the rain water falls straight to the ground around the house. Could I pour the liquid straight on top of the ground every few years and be good enough rather than trenching?
Yea cheers mate, but down in Australia do we need to hang the baits on the ceilings .. because as you probably know , we’re upside down here.
Hahahaha classic. It’s not for the ceiling termites??
fast fwd to today huh!
Hi Sir. Could i ask about the treatment sir? In my bath room, i have one spot termite actived . I have installed sentricon bait station by professional. They installed only 19 sentricon bait station for exterior and one AG station for interior ( bath room termite actived spot ). My question is could i spray with Spectracide Terminate Termite Killing Foam to any other room's by myself, i making tiny hole by drilling to drywall and can i spray to prevent with Spectracide Terminate Termite Killing Foam behind the drywall for entire house or could i leave like that with their treatment. I worry about termite will move to other spot and eat other room's structure. Please advice me sir. Thanks Sir. With Best Regards.
If you use the liquid does the barrier have to be continuous around the entire house?
What about single story slab, where a previous termite colony has passed stucco and foundation, and come in to bathroom drywall
Awesome video! Thank you!
Very informative and appreciate your efforts👍🏼.There are termites in the Wardrobe(edges)which are made of plywood and covered with sunmica(fevicol fixed).How do liquid insecticide reach termites which are under sunmica.Even if sprayed over sunmica will it not come off due to any chemical reaction between insecticide and fevicol🤷♀️..? Hope ull answer ✌️
DIY, do both bait and trenching with liquid.
Actually only a Boracare treatment stops decay as well as termites AND 'Field Treatment' is a building code requirement met by Boracare and not met by soil poisons or BaitCons.
Great video and very useful insights! Quick question, what if I'm noticing formatting of colonies within my home? I've notices mud spores near my boiler in my garage. I'm guessing they are well within my home if they are popping up in a central location.
Yeah that’s not a good sign. I would get a pest company to do a free inspection
@@DanTheBugMan do they give free inspection? They want $150 for inspection
Termite technician here! A reputable pest control company should give a free inspection prior to any treatment or service contract. Its usually done by the company's sales teams. How else would they know the best way to treat if they dont do an inspection to identify the conducive conditions?
my school in my elementary years had that gray an black on in the school yard along the edges of school
Very nice explanation….👍🏽
I grown food in my yard in South Florida so I guess baits will work for me. I don’t want to poison me soil with the liquid. Is my food forest safe from the liquid runoff? because it rain a lot sometimes.
Different chemicals used for termite
what is best for a home that has water standing under it after it rains really hard. it is an old crawl space type home. thanks for all of your informative videos.😊
You should NEVER have standing water under your house. Do whatever it takes to stop it. That can be a combination of things, landscaping, gutters, drains, sump pumps.
Termidor HD is a good way to kill active termites but Sentricon (recruit HD) is the best preventive treatment also Recruit AG stations work very well too for an active infestation. Also with liquid sometimes drilling is involved, which sometimes makes it more intrusive to the homeowner.
Question I watched ur other vidoe how to diy liquid treatment . Ok whag if you do only two sides of the house where I’m sure there is termite and had termites ? Is that enough ? Or like if 10 termites go through and take it back to the colony is that enough it will kill the whole thing
Two sides of the home should provide some good coverage. But try to do all sides if you can. But yeah if just a few termites get it then it will eliminate the colony
@@DanTheBugMan thank you
Great explanation thank you!
Nice presentation. How about making a hybrid system. Use bait station without the real bait inside the plastic shell with slots. Now it's not a one time treatment. You can refill through this gadget annually. This should be more effective in areas with high humidity, moisture and leaching issues.
Thanks
Dan how much would you charge for that type of job? Not for the bait station treatment, the other one.
What is the purpose of digging a small ditch for the liquid product? Can I pour it on the surface and let it soak in? I live in SW Florida and our soil is sandy with some clay. Watched another vid showing them treating the back fill with product before covering the ditch.
The purpose of the ditch is just so the solution doesn't run off. Just make sure its soaking in to the ground right next to the house. Yes that's what most people do is treating the backfill but its pointless in my opinion
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT I BELONG TO AN AREA WHERE COST DOES MATTER. SO , MAY BE MY IDEA IS NOT A WISE ONE BUT STILL I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR OPENION ON THIS.
How far away from the foundation should the bait traps be placed? How effective are the Spectracide bait traps that Home Depot sells? THANKS....
If the bait station is installed in the flower bed with mulch. Will mulch compete with the wood in the bait station?
No that will be okay. Just depending on what much it is the termites might not even like it
Great info
Great job Sir... any advice on getting rid of snakes and spiders... thanks...
Thank you! Well that depends on a lot of factors…. Snakes usually done hang around for long. There’s a product called snake away. And for spiders be sure to clear out any sticks or leaves around the house and maybe use a spray to get rid of them
Hey Dan great video.. i noticed two holes of drywood termite i teared down the drywall has nothing.. thought i got foam based temidor and drill the hole and injected .. after that i dont find the temites anywhere i being cautious i bought this spectracide sticks and placed them around home.. got taurus sc and sprayed around.. i am not finding any drywood termite after i am still not having peace of mind would they still be around in my home.. i am thinking to do tent fumigation does it really be necessary
What if you have a small dog in the back yard? Ideas? About to get a tent job and don't want them to return..
It’s not harmful to pets if allied correctly or even half way correctly lol.
Very informative. Thank you so much.
You are so welcome!
I have a question. I’m replacing the pipes on my house to pvc getting rid of the iron and steel piping so the floors are dug up. What kind of termite treatment can I add inside the opening we dug up? What can I get on Amazon?.
Thanks for the info , Dan. Will check your DIY website for Carpenter Ants
I live in arizona state with no humid and dry and hot in summer. Which product should I go? Baiting system or liquid ?
Great video, really appreciate this
Go with the termidor
So the companies where I live are only warranting the liquid treatments for 8 years but they will warrant the bait stations for life. Both require annual inspections so it works out the same. But they are pushing the bait hard because they don’t want to use liquid. They even told me that the chemical dissipates after 3 to 4 years. I could really smell the BS, but The way they have their pricing models done they really don’t want you to use the liquid anymore.
It's cuz of the environment. State Law is regulating the HELL out of chemicals. I work for Arrow Exteriminators and we use to do liquids but now we switched over purely to Sentricon(The green thin station he has). If you want to blame anyone? Blame the States and Environmentalists. They are choppin' down hard on chemicals. Less chemicals the better and easier it is for everybody now. Also apparently, Liquid Treatments decline overtime. It doesn't "last" for 10 years but rather it gets less effective over a 10 year period. No one knows how less effective but the assumption is a Liquid treatment in it's first to second year is much more as one in it's 10 year +
Bait stations are gimmick you are correct
They make more money off of them especially refilling them
And Termidor doesn’t last 3-4 years or eight years it typically last 10-15 years
@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit Sounds like the only thing they are good for is monitoring if they are in the soil. So maybe its worth installing a few as DIY ?
Question. What happens if you use both liquid and bait?
Hi, Dan , how are you doing, I have a question, I like to use the liquid of bio advanced mixed with water pouring around outside of house wall for every 2 months, but I have a fruit tree near the wall about 6 feet distance, I am worry that the roots of fruit tree absorbed the liquid of treatment. Is it not good ? or do I change to use
the termite stakes near area of fruit tree ? Thank you for your attention
Hello! I’m not 100% sure but I’ve never known pesticides to effect plants. Even when we spray chemicals into the ground around plants they never die so I would think it would be ok
Good video and have a good day
Are there different kinds of termites and if so do you treat them all the same.
Could you make a video showing us how to apply the liquid poison please
I did! I have two videos on my channel
I found it like 5 mins after I commented my fault lol
Hey Dan! I live in a new community in the newly built home in South Carolina. Our builder gives you a year free with Sentricon terminate system. The year is past and I’m trying to research on doing it myself. My problem is where do you get the refills? I haven’t found a solid location on where to purchase that. Please let me know any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
The builder has an agreement with your local pest control company to install the bait stations. When the year is up, you will hear from the pest control company who will inspect and service the monitors. At that time, you will have the option for continued (paid)service. The average price is around $300.00-$350.00 per year. You can shop around for the best price, but ask about the warranty.
Ebay has them
Hi Thank you for these videos- in this video, you did not specify, as far as I know, the "poison" used in the bait stations- Is it fipronil? It makes sense to me that it would be, but it would be nice to know. This is what is used in Termador- Thanks-
I found a ground termite hole. Put a bait stake into the hole. The green knob popped up. Replace it with another stake to make sure the nest is exterminated.
It didn't pop up but it's there for the termites. I like the stake method because the holds are there. Just replace the empty stake with new one.
knowledge
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Is this the next Critter McCool, stinging insect expert?
Look into boric acid & bora-care if you are doing a new build.
If a house is on pylons, do you dig a trench around every pylon and pour the liquid in it? Do I spray the pylons also? Im assuming yes.
Orkin installed bait traps. Should I suggest a one-time liquid treatment? For ultimate coverage?
Good video thanks.
Sentricon is not a "bait" in the conventional sense, it does not attract termites to it and the sticks in it last a long time and from my understanding its actually more beneficial to leave the bait stick in if it isnt too depleted so the termites continue to feed on it, also its aging actually causes it to be more conducive to termite activity.
Correct
Hey. Thx for sharing this info. I/m from texas and gotr a very very bad situation with termites. How may I contact you to get an advise. TIA
Can you put bait stations in the crawlspace? I live in a very old house in southwestern Missouri.
Yes you can!!!
@@benjaminkoerperI'm surprised that wouldn't be mandatory on crawl space foundations
Good to know!!
Thanks!
You do not need to replace the bait every year. Noviflumuron in sentricon has around a 20 year shelf/ half life. You need to check annually to make sure a station hasn’t been depleted. That’s when you need to replace a bait. The video to me sounded like you’re saying every year all stations need new bait.
It deteriorates through the year
The liquid is safe to do it myself ? Thanks
With a large concrete driveway in front of the house, do go around the outside of the driveway? Looking to diy this?
Yo
Cool thanks
I installed Spectracide bait stations in my front yard last year, the orange bar popped up this week, and a bunch of brown worms have started coming out every night and sometimes go under my front door, into the house. I used the Taurus SC there yesterday, so hopefully that kills the worms too lol
Haha I wouldn’t trust those spectricide things. But good job using Taurus! That will definitely help
Spectracide is just a waist of money. It doesn’t work
Where can I buy taurus sc ?
@@fabp4289 i got it from ebay!
Our home was treated for termites some time before we bought it and my dog was digging against the house ,not sure if she was staying cool or could smell termites because there was some rocks against the house and I pulled them out b4 I covered the holes up and I was seeing what I think was termites with the wings and all , them I dug on down pretty deep and there was a massive nest of those buggers and I gad,a bottle of hardware store termite stuff that someone give me not the good stuff but I just poured the whole dang bottle on top of them then poured some hot water on them but I feel whoever treated the home did a halfass job and am thinking of doing again myself because of price and shady people in my area , I've been watching all your videos trying to learn what to use and how to treat my home inside and out and as deep as I saw those termites I was thinking when do mine I would hammer down a piece of rebar in several spots just to make extra deep pockets for the chemical to be sure to get deep.
If it’s not tented its pretty much a scam. I work in the industry
@@wanderingdaze7018 what do you mean, Tented? The product being used? Thanks 😊
@@WhiteOak09 the whole house.
@@wanderingdaze7018 thanks
Can I ask how it is going with the termites ?
@Dan The Bug Man, thanks for this helpful video. I'm tempted to save money, order the bait systems and install them myself. Is there any reason why you would recommend that I leave this project to the professionalls?
Thanks for watching! Hey if you have the time and energy, then go for it. Termite treatments are not rocket science! If you are doing it yourself, I would definitely recommend doing a liquid treatment and not bait stations
If you do it YOURSELF make sure you read the label so you do it correctly and dont create some issues you weren't expecting. Good luck.
Thanks Dan for the video. Great overview for the DIY'er and non-professional.
I have noticed what I suspect to be flying termites. An inspection shows no mud tubes nor signs of termites. Prevention was recommended though. For the Termidor SC product, should I trench a small area around the home and then apply the product? It seems like a more solid barrier as compared to the bait startions. In either case, what is the recommended treatment for where there is concrete coming up to the home but having a small gap, say an 1/8 to a 1/4 inch between the wall and the concrete?
Thanks for watching!! Just get as much solution in to the soil as possible. If the crack is too small you will need to go around it or drill into concrete
How far do you place the bait stations from the structure and how many.
Im a termite technician myself. Our company's standard is placing the station about 2 to 3 feet from the roofline and away from gutter spouts. Stations should also be placed about 8 to 10 feet apart for the best results. This helps ensure that the termites will find the stations. Most companies will measure the linear footage of your home and give an estimate based on the measurements. If your home for example is 250 linear feet, its safe to assume that you will need about 25 stations around the house give or take to compensate for additional in ground stuctures/slabs around your home (pools, patios, etc.)
I have added a wood foundation for my new addition. Should I add liquid treatment on top of the rock around my sonotubes?
Oviously, I will not be able to get to this area again to retreat ever again.
Yeah definitely! Treat that soil and just make sure there’s no runoff and the chemical is seeping into the soil properly
What if I have sprinklers that irrigate the lawn?
I have a question: Where did you get the poster that you have on the wall ? I need one like that, please let me know, thank you.
Very helpful. Thank you ☺️
Thanks for watching!
Hey quick question but where did you get that poster that’s on your wall, it looks like ants and termites.
GREAT INFO!!
What do you think about orkin?they do termidicide sentricon for well over $2000
Is termidicide the same as termidor? 250 a year for warranty after the 3rd year. Recruit HD is what they use
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Hey Dan! Thanks for this information. I had a question about how effective liquid treatment is for termites. How can you guarantee liquid treatment is effective if there could be something blocking the liquids path, like a rock or something. Just wondering!
I don't fully understand your question, because if it's just gravel against the slab, you can still dig a trench and treat. If it's like a concrete slab in your way, you drill holes and apply the liquid termiticide under the slab to form the barrier. If your house is built on a solid rock and there is no soil, which I've never seen, then you probably live in an area that doesn't have subterranean termites.
A liquid soil treatment is only for subterranean termites. That may help answer your question, until Dan sees your comment. And I'm also a licensed pest technician as well, fyi.
Nice , thanks :)
Even if the liquid treatment doesn’t cover every inch of soil, the termites will still find it. They are exploring insects so they are always tunneling through the soil and they will eventually find the chemical
@@DanTheBugMan hello Dan. How about the brand premise from bayer? Is it also a non-repellent?
great video
Would u say cedar siding attracts termites?
Excellent
Hello, I live in the Philippines, We have an Active infestation from Subterranean termites, to the point if I put a piece of plywood on the ground, within 3 days the termites will be all over the ground facing surface of the plywood!
So finding them is not an issue...
He get a metric ton of rain here, being a small island, so I am thinking my best bet is to make a few Mounds & place the bait traps in them incase there are multiple colonies. That way the rain wont wash them out.
What is / are the main active ingredients that I should look for in baits?
Someone wrote in a comment below yours “noviflumeron”, as the active chemical in Sentricon.
I think a system like Centricon is more effective. Since it has an IGR in it, once a worker feeds it to the queen none of the eggs she lays will ever mature properly which leads to a rapid collapse of the colony. The company I worked for charged an annual fee but we inspected the stations every three months.