They didn't cut mics quick enough twice. QXC discussing how loud they were talking. Then after the discussion they cut just after Moonglade was saying "I'm fucking..(cut)".Now I really wanted to know what Moonglade was saying.
I know everyone loves Smix but this woman is so much better in keeping the conversation live even when Taeja is taking 5 secs to answer the question (english is hard, we all know). This woman knows the background (or at least pretends to know) and puts it in nicely. She smiles well and doesn't cut others too much. Where can I follow her?
it seems that people largely ignore the #1 weakness in terran: production building if u camp ur army in their production building and take it out, even if the terran army comes back and even trade with yours, the terran player is screwed terran is probably one of the slowest in building an army (balance against their cost effectiveness)
Can someone explaint to me why no one is using overlords to do some drops? I imagine dropping some banelings while the enemy is distracted could deal quite some damage.
iwillmaceyou its hella risky, because the overlords are also the supply, which means that you´ll need to have an excess amount of overlords, which at least in my eyes is a waste of resources. also overlords move way too slow to not get spotted in time to be dealt with. iirc, there was a time when baneling drops where viable though. that was long ago though.
Peter Hardie i wouldn't say straight tech, but somewhere along the line you just need a pit and energy upgrade. his banes are just getting obliterated b/c of the kiting
Jacki Chan i might not be understanding you: what do you mean more 'breathing room' to terran? infestors are easier for terran to deal with? when you say 'buffed' do you mean 'nerfed' ?
Not sure why Jaedong never used Infestors and opted to use Mutas/Ultras instead. Muta's get shut down vs. mass marine + widows and require upgrades. Ultralisk are T3 and just get KITed for days not to mention they're extremely expensive. Being a random race player I can say that Starcraft has some balancing issues but from what I've seen in this game the reason Jaedong lost wasn't because Terran is OP or Zerg is UP, it was because he didn't adapt and stuck to the same failing strategy hoping for a chance to get a lucky baneling flank or a undefended mineral line with lings/mutas.
Hey guys i have a question.if i buy sc2 wings of liberty that means i unlock whole campaign for terran and multiplayer with all classes right? but can i still play with the guys who got heart of swarm?
Taeja had a much stronger army (+3 / +3 VS +2 / +2) after Jaedong lost all of his banes and most of his mutas trying to save his 4th. Taeja was mining from a 4th base while Jaedong was about to lose his. He had no way of holding Taeja back.
Why don't Zerg pro's nydus anymore? Most terrans leave giant blind spots in their bases. Also why doesn't Jaedong play the swarm host? They're perfect for static territorial occupation. Would've been great in that first game here at the end...
+mechmusician He does use swarm hosts occasionally, but only on defense really. He just prefers a faster, more aggressive playstyle of hit and runs to set up big pushes.
Can't believe how young these guys are. Jaedong is the king of micro but I can't stand his zergling/baneling/muta one track mind against terrans, he makes the most inefficient trades committing to these fragile units. He throws away thousands of zerglings and banelings against healing MMM. I like Solar and Snute's styles much more, they're funner to watch too.
Quit bashing on WMs. They are NOWHERE as good as you believe. If it connects with a whole flock of Mutas its luck, and the zerg player is an idiot. One Overseer with the group can defuse them. Assuming they havent unloaded their shot on a single unit, they are 2x(N) of dead supply for 40 seconds, in which any detector can spot them. So nerfing? No please, that would make terrans underpowered again. Things are pretty good the way they are now
Haven't played SC2 in years because of David Kim. hehe I remember when they wanted to remove the Carrier. This widow mine *sigh* what a gimmicky stupid replacement of the Siege Tank. I can't stand the direction this game is going.
***** JD has the huge apm which will probably stay on this level for another 25 yrs or so (if his brain doesnt get hurt). The difference is that he skipped most parts of Sc2 WOL and when he joined, others had gained a huge advantage skillwise already. JD can definitely overcome anyone APM-wise. If you give him some time to improve his game, he might become even better. He's already quite good (very often top 5 in tournies etc.), so nothing to worry here. You are correct though that other players are better in certain aspects of the game, like baneling spread etc. But if you got the apm, you can train that. One more point on APM from my view, if you ever saw a VOD of JD (dh ~ 1 yr ago), you would know his apm is among the highest of all. He was changing screens like a machine. I was quite impressed; never than anything close to that before. And I have seen other Koreans' VODs...
After Leessangrok (flash and jaedong's bashing each other), JD was always behind the 1st in every scene. Kind of sad to see JD unfit for no 1 anymore...
It's a problem for all professional sport players, e-sports or otherwise. You can't stay at the top forever. Jaedong was a beast in Brood War, but that was a long time ago when you look back at it. Newer players come in, with different skillets, bigger drive, etc, etc. He's still incredibly good, but you just can't be at peak form indefinitely.
Peter K I honestly don't see how anyone can maintain this kind of APM past the age of 28 or so. As someone who relies on clicking a lot for editing work, I started suffering from tendonitis at around 26. And I was clicking far less than pro gamers do. It seems like very few people can handle this amount of strain past a certain, relatively young age.
+Special S That's funny that you would call someone who's better than you could ever think about being and considered one of the best Zergs on the planet, "terrible."
Those goddamn spider mines keep ruining my game too. Nasty fuckers. I didn't think Jaedong would win after seeing him struggle on that second game with all the resources he had. Game aside ... I just wanna say FUCK!! DO YOU SEE HOW FAST THESE GUYS PECK AWAY AT THE KEYBOARD!?!?!? THAT'S FUCKING SUPERHUMAN!!!
+The Animaster That high APM is the primary difference between a regular player and a pro player, really. Some of the faster pros execute over three times more actions per minute than the average player.
Never quite get a good interview if the players keep getting pressured into speaking in English -- I think they should be told beforehand that it's alright to just go ahead and explain themselves in their native tongue.
+The Animaster A lot of Koreans take pride in their English, regardless of its quality, Korea has one of the most comprehensive English study programs during grammar/secondary school in all of Asia. Many players do use translators, some prefer to try out their English during interviews.
They didn't cut mics quick enough twice. QXC discussing how loud they were talking. Then after the discussion they cut just after Moonglade was saying "I'm fucking..(cut)".Now I really wanted to know what Moonglade was saying.
I know everyone loves Smix but this woman is so much better in keeping the conversation live even when Taeja is taking 5 secs to answer the question (english is hard, we all know). This woman knows the background (or at least pretends to know) and puts it in nicely. She smiles well and doesn't cut others too much. Where can I follow her?
The "ESL Subscribe" thing at the top right of the screen is blocking the supply count, which is annoying.
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BurningVigor82 newbie hahaha
No.
it seems that people largely ignore the #1 weakness in terran: production building
if u camp ur army in their production building and take it out, even if the terran army comes back and even trade with yours, the terran player is screwed
terran is probably one of the slowest in building an army (balance against their cost effectiveness)
song at 25:13?
Can someone explaint to me why no one is using overlords to do some drops? I imagine dropping some banelings while the enemy is distracted could deal quite some damage.
This: I feel like I never see zerg use overlord drop ever. Why is this?
iwillmaceyou its hella risky, because the overlords are also the supply, which means that you´ll need to have an excess amount of overlords, which at least in my eyes is a waste of resources. also overlords move way too slow to not get spotted in time to be dealt with.
iirc, there was a time when baneling drops where viable though. that was long ago though.
unless you're catz, in which case you drop ultralisk into peoples bases
Because there killed so easly and overloards count as 8 free supply each
***** venral sacks and pneumatized carpace is 300 gas
why do zergs not use infestors? would be good for those kiting mMM?
Takes so long to tech to infestors. You get killed.
Peter Hardie i wouldn't say straight tech, but somewhere along the line you just need a pit and energy upgrade. his banes are just getting obliterated b/c of the kiting
Maybe, I am not an expert on Zerg but i thought you just a move your muta ling banelings and win.
Peter Hardie doesn't work if MMM split and kite back with mine support like taeja does. infestor can prevent the splitting
Jacki Chan i might not be understanding you: what do you mean more 'breathing room' to terran? infestors are easier for terran to deal with? when you say 'buffed' do you mean 'nerfed' ?
That no mute at the post game analysis.
It was so funny at the very start, he spoke like on china and then speech turn back to him
21:29 SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED
Funka, the no.1 observer of all times! If u disagree, your argument is invalid, eot.
Thank you Funka!
Not sure why Jaedong never used Infestors and opted to use Mutas/Ultras instead. Muta's get shut down vs. mass marine + widows and require upgrades. Ultralisk are T3 and just get KITed for days not to mention they're extremely expensive. Being a random race player I can say that Starcraft has some balancing issues but from what I've seen in this game the reason Jaedong lost wasn't because Terran is OP or Zerg is UP, it was because he didn't adapt and stuck to the same failing strategy hoping for a chance to get a lucky baneling flank or a undefended mineral line with lings/mutas.
Hey guys i have a question.if i buy sc2 wings of liberty that means i unlock whole campaign for terran and multiplayer with all classes right? but can i still play with the guys who got heart of swarm?
you can play custom games HOTS but you cant ladder HOTS
you can ladder with ur friend as a team
You can play arcade games that use HOTS or if you have a friend that has HOTS you can party with him and play HOTS multiplayer stuff.
Bin Gao vjp
Taeja admitting he won vs Jaedong last time because of imba hellbat... i love this guy
where's 1080p? 720 hurts my eyes
#firstworldproblems
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Can somebody explain to me why jaedong gg in the first game?
Taeja had a much stronger army (+3 / +3 VS +2 / +2) after Jaedong lost all of his banes and most of his mutas trying to save his 4th. Taeja was mining from a 4th base while Jaedong was about to lose his. He had no way of holding Taeja back.
^^ Well said. Yeah that game was over for sure.
tuhaggis yeah and he destroyed the bailings building (can't spell it soz)
AlisaCyber bane nest
Both of my favorite players duking it out. Taeja FTW!
Taeja, so humble. Guy wins everything and stay this humble, gonna win a lot more, even if it is after he comes back from compulsory military service.
Why don't Zerg pro's nydus anymore? Most terrans leave giant blind spots in their bases. Also why doesn't Jaedong play the swarm host? They're perfect for static territorial occupation. Would've been great in that first game here at the end...
If you don't know, you can actually hear the nudes worm emerging. It was used to tunnel queens, zerglings, banelings, and stuff
+mechmusician He does use swarm hosts occasionally, but only on defense really. He just prefers a faster, more aggressive playstyle of hit and runs to set up big pushes.
The summer of taeja continues!!! Acer homestory cup, dreamhack and IEM champ!!! TERRAN
Ridiculous how MUCH economicly and tech wise zerg must be ahead to beat a terran....
QXC > Kalarus
If I had a dollar for every time Kalarus said a word that didn't fit into the sentence, I'd have about 100 dollars.
It's just because JDs cant spilt his banelings like Leenock did and make a sandwich of the marines, he just got rekt against TJ who has better micro.
BEST OF LEGENDS
Kaelaris swearing on cast... 1:29:42
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Can't believe how young these guys are. Jaedong is the king of micro but I can't stand his zergling/baneling/muta one track mind against terrans, he makes the most inefficient trades committing to these fragile units. He throws away thousands of zerglings and banelings against healing MMM. I like Solar and Snute's styles much more, they're funner to watch too.
Aint jaedong 24?
Great games but fuck is terran so OP in the hands of taeja
Only Teaja, Maru and maybe Bbyong and Polt can go against anyone and any race.
With only medics and marines, and ofc, some little help from radar.
***** I would agree as it is so hard to deal with mines as zerg. However Taeja has the splitting skills so survive without mines.
мне одному кажется что теран на 15 минуте с лимитом договорился....
yup, terran need that new widow mine buff...
***** same here, but I'm going to switch to Terran...
Quit bashing on WMs. They are NOWHERE as good as you believe. If it connects with a whole flock of Mutas its luck, and the zerg player is an idiot. One Overseer with the group can defuse them. Assuming they havent unloaded their shot on a single unit, they are 2x(N) of dead supply for 40 seconds, in which any detector can spot them.
So nerfing? No please, that would make terrans underpowered again. Things are pretty good the way they are now
1:29:30
lmfao @ kaelaris swearing like a derp
Man Taeja is such a baller beastmoding through those. Especially liked the second game, Taeja did not make it easy for him at all.
Sad to hear Taeja about to be kidnapped by the military.
dude is it just me or does kaelaris kinda look like boromir
Just my opinion. The marine are OP i mean zergling in this game at this time are just like shooting target for the marines
Jason Bourne your opinion does not matter, since you apparently don't know much about the game
Looked and sounded pretty hilarious at the start when Redeye spoke mandarin^^
I wonder if I could beat him if he wasn't allowed to use a keyboard... probably would still destroy me
One day jeadong is gon get outf the booth and start killing ppl for real
I know who Husky will be cheering for.
Split push? DOTA!!! Taeja, you're a beast don't leave yet!
THE TIME HAS COME.
Jaedong struggling against mines, he needs some Hyun advice
hYpNoXiDe Not really.
1 in 2000 people are born and their gender is not clear cut.
Military service for Taeja = He hopes the Zerg or Protoss attacks rather than the U.S lol ;-)
I think JD wins snute several times in last half year, and I think snute would be better looking in this series.
I don't like seeing Jaedong lose :
Z is so IMBA
if widow mine can kill more and give more hit
this game will be fair and fun
24:24 all zerg wanna see that happen
JD will rise and terrans and toss will fall someday ;-;
To beat a terran, zerg needs double of economy.
Taeja!!!!!!!!!
Taeja is Overpowered hahaha.
Haven't played SC2 in years because of David Kim. hehe I remember when they wanted to remove the Carrier. This widow mine *sigh* what a gimmicky stupid replacement of the Siege Tank. I can't stand the direction this game is going.
Very interesting game :LOL
Taeja is my nigga!
JDs not as good as he was anymore. =(
No hes still good. Taeja is just too much better than everyone else.
***** JD has the huge apm which will probably stay on this level for another 25 yrs or so (if his brain doesnt get hurt). The difference is that he skipped most parts of Sc2 WOL and when he joined, others had gained a huge advantage skillwise already.
JD can definitely overcome anyone APM-wise. If you give him some time to improve his game, he might become even better. He's already quite good (very often top 5 in tournies etc.), so nothing to worry here. You are correct though that other players are better in certain aspects of the game, like baneling spread etc. But if you got the apm, you can train that.
One more point on APM from my view, if you ever saw a VOD of JD (dh ~ 1 yr ago), you would know his apm is among the highest of all. He was changing screens like a machine. I was quite impressed; never than anything close to that before. And I have seen other Koreans' VODs...
After Leessangrok (flash and jaedong's bashing each other), JD was always behind the 1st in every scene. Kind of sad to see JD unfit for no 1 anymore...
It's a problem for all professional sport players, e-sports or otherwise. You can't stay at the top forever. Jaedong was a beast in Brood War, but that was a long time ago when you look back at it. Newer players come in, with different skillets, bigger drive, etc, etc. He's still incredibly good, but you just can't be at peak form indefinitely.
Peter K I honestly don't see how anyone can maintain this kind of APM past the age of 28 or so. As someone who relies on clicking a lot for editing work, I started suffering from tendonitis at around 26. And I was clicking far less than pro gamers do. It seems like very few people can handle this amount of strain past a certain, relatively young age.
Split push! Rat Starcraft best strarcraft!
BLZ loves Terrain, abandoned Zerg
Jabito could pwn these 2 easily tho
TAEJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Stork vs Jaedong's BW match brought me here. Looks like SC2 is still gimmicky as hell and boring to watch.
HE HAS SHITNESS COMMING OUT.lhaahahahahaha
man in the middle looks so much like Trump, the snooker boy, LOL
MMM you know how to play terran ...
how to play as terran
step 1: build marines
step 2: win
Jeadong is terrible, his time has past, easy win for teaja, the best zerg in the world rightnow is life, and even life cant beat teaja
Special S Life did Taeja at Blizzcon good games none the less
+Special S That's funny that you would call someone who's better than you could ever think about being and considered one of the best Zergs on the planet, "terrible."
Widow mines = op random crap.
Those goddamn spider mines keep ruining my game too. Nasty fuckers.
I didn't think Jaedong would win after seeing him struggle on that second game with all the resources he had.
Game aside ... I just wanna say FUCK!! DO YOU SEE HOW FAST THESE GUYS PECK AWAY AT THE KEYBOARD!?!?!? THAT'S FUCKING SUPERHUMAN!!!
+The Animaster That high APM is the primary difference between a regular player and a pro player, really. Some of the faster pros execute over three times more actions per minute than the average player.
Never quite get a good interview if the players keep getting pressured into speaking in English -- I think they should be told beforehand that it's alright to just go ahead and explain themselves in their native tongue.
+The Animaster A lot of Koreans take pride in their English, regardless of its quality, Korea has one of the most comprehensive English study programs during grammar/secondary school in all of Asia. Many players do use translators, some prefer to try out their English during interviews.