The Best Shred Machine For Under £200???
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Chappers and The Captain sit down and discuss the best affordable shred machines. Which one of these setups is your favourite?!
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What I really like is how the Jackson just says Jackson on the headstock, none of this SE, Squier, LTD, Gio bullshit that immediately advertises it's a cheaper guitar.
but the GIO is amazing for Gio Giovanna
same thing with schecter, it's really pointless for the re branding
thats cause Jackson guitar Kick ass
I agree. Interesting to see someone else point it out.
No, its just called a Dinky, to shame you into spending more.
It’s nice to see budget guitars that aren’t Squier. Don’t get me wrong Squiers are great but sometimes a change of pace is nice.
Except a Jackson is just a Squier in sheep's clothing.
Idk, my local guitar center is filled with budget crap like this. There are a few hidden gems but a lot of it isnt worth getting. I like the epiphone SGs and squier affinities but for these shreddy guitars I'd rather shell out a bit more cash. If you dont mind the shape and feel, a used schecter omen or some of their other cheaper guitars are very well fretted and solid sounding guitars. I'm not a huge fan of the aesthetic and overall feel though, they are just definitely QC'd.
swingonthespiral I found a used MIM Jackson Pro Dinky Hardtail at my local guitar center for $375. That’s what I would recommend but I just like that someone is reviewing these other budget guitars. A lot of them are garbage but they have come a long way even since I started playing 15 years ago.
@@straight2helll What about the $300-$400 dollars V style guitars
I just got the jackson js11.... great for goofin
in the US 200 pound guitars are only for the very strong
Wooooosshhh
Hahah never heard that. Thats awesome
@@freakonaleech6730 thats not how that works
@@freakonaleech6730 it's a joke, you ass
In Americaland they would be 260 dollar guitars ;-)
I have the Jackson JS22. I can 100% guarantee you it's a bang for the buck. It's like 220 euros and you won't be disappointed.
yeppp it realy is a good guitar
I totally agree I have this guitar is pretty good
Costs $250 in Peru. I'm going for it next month for sure even though I don't do shredding but Jacksons are good for melodic rock and classic heavy metal.
I'm picking up the 7 string JS22 next week for 150 bucks. I hope it delivers the same decent budget quality as the 6 string version!
Which one is better? Jackson js11 or js22?
Rob: "Let's see what it's like with too much gain!" LOL
There is no "too much gain". Chug is life!
@@svart42 stone cold
Pier Luigi Fiorini Hahaha, somebody’s been watching some Ola Englund the Swede #chuglife
In his defence it's an episode about shredding, so for once it's ok.
if a tree shits in the forest and no-one steps in it can you cut that tree down and make a guitar from it?
This is the golden age of quality low budget guitars. I started playing in the early 70s and it wasn't cheap to find a playable guitar. I bought a Ampeg heavy stud Tele copy for under 300 bucks. 300 bucks in 1974 was a lot of money for a high school kid making 2.40 an hour. Lol
jeez man
Chiming in with the Thompson Tribe. ya started playing in the early 80's and most affordable guitars sucked. definitely the golden age of guitars!
That little was legal back then?
@@megatron8490 i would assume so, just as he said, 300 was a lot back then. Also think about like coke, used to be 25 cents, now like what? 1.65$? Money is a crazy thing tbh, well inflation i mean
@@megatron8490 2.40 in 1974 is 13.35 today so not unheard of
Just bought js22 as second guitar for lower tunings, and its a killer djent machine.
Had a Jackson JS32QT that i absolutely loved. It was so easy to play and came fresh out of the box very playable. I was impressed with such a low cost instrument that it would play and sound so nice
That Jackson is beautiful
Worth that price just for the painted body!
I've watched so many of these videos that I just watch for the shattered coffee mugs to reappear. This episode did not disappoint.
#LeeQuotes “Wouldn’t you rather have a planet with rusty ends than no planet and shiny ends?” GOLD
To be fair, if the ends were gold they wouldn't rust. But they also wouldn't be magnetic. Damn.
Those cheap Ibanez trem systems are actually really stable.
Shred Machines and affordability are definitely some of my desires and fortes in Music! Also I love the Forest Gump joke snuck in there Haha. Great work!
I have that exact esp ltd f-50 but with locking tuners. Can confirm, it is still one of my favorite guitars even though I own a high end schecter, a solar V style, and a music man jp60
Who else wants to see some kind of Trem System Shootout? Just 20 minutes of Monkey Lord Chappers abusing trems?
Travis Wooley 🙋♂️
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Yea I likey!
Great idea! I only know/have/tired a few kinds of Floyd Rose types... The Ibanez EDGE [original] is my favorite. Has there been another F.R. type that has been highly regarded? I also have a couple types of Bigsby's, plenty of crappy Fender 6 screw-types, and a GFS version of a Bigsby. It's fine. Just not as hefty as a Bigsby, so has a totally different feel.
*"Chappers Abusing his Trem"* sounds like a new porn category xD
Rob is right about the tremolo bridge, it's almost always the nut, string tree or string post windings that cause tuning issues. Especially so with a 2 point trem...
I have the same Jackson (color and model). A little beat up but definitely gets the job done. Especially with the stock pickups.
CHALLENGE: Expensive trem system on a premium guitar that hasn't been set up with a perfectly cut nut and locking tuners, vs a cheap licensed trem system on a shaffordable guitar that HAS been set up with a lubed nut and correctly wound new strings!
I'll put up my 1990's Peavey Tracer with Floyd Rose locking tremolo any day.
@@SophiaAphrodite peavey is sleeping... this 2020/2021 season was the perfect season to relaunch their lines
I use a cheap jackson, i think they're pretty good
The riffs in this video. I loved this one. MORE METAl from you guys!
I know it's not the model but my first good guitar was a Jackson dk2 (not an expensive guitar tho). It is awesome, I still keep it to this day, awesome intonation, good seymour duncan pickups, Jackson makes some of the best shred machines
got the ibanez almost 2 years ago and love it!
Love Jackson the most, its looks, its sound, really awesome.
This was EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED. I’m into buckethead very heavily(if it wasn’t obvious already) and I have an epiphone les Paul custom pro and I needed a shred guitars in this budget. Thanks
I have that blue jackson!! I put some red pickups in it, and replaced the tone knob with a killswitch from iron accessories
I haven’t picked up a guitar in years. How am I still watching all these videos? Lol great content!!!
Why man !! Get back on it!!
Chappers can make any guitar sound amazing!! Just shows a great amp and effects are even more important !!
And skill ^^
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their women.
Soft bed, hot soup and good dentist (not sure about the first one) 😁😁😁😆😆😆😅😂🤣🤣
You vant to know what's best in Metal? THE GUITAR SOLO!!!!
wasn`t that Laurel & Hardy?
Conan lives!
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Can confirm with the Gio's trem. I re-cut my nut and re-strung it right, the thing just stays in tune. Only needs a touch up if it's been really cold and heating go's on but all my guitars need that.
Also, this cheap Ibanez is going to cost me 900 in the long run as I want an RG :(
all of those movie references made 14 yr old me squeal with joy and nostalgia and the shred as always tickled my audio intakes. Good show
Fascinated skills of Rob. Good job man, you are improved your technique. Thats Awesome!
Did anyone feel this needed a Bill and Ted esque “excellent” air guitar in today’s shredness?
Isn’t that more Wayne’s world? I haven’t watched either in a while so I may be wrong.
Awesome riffage from the Chapster on the Forest and JS22!
In my experience Jackson excels at this price point. The expensive Jacksons are very average to my taste (which is not bad, it is just what you expect from a guitar at that pricepoint). But below 300 quid, no one touches them in sound and playability, especially in the shred category. Ibanez to me is the other way around: great more expensive guitars, shite at the under 300 range
Yeah, Jackson is funny like that, cheap ones? Absolute BEAUTY!
Middle of the road guitar? Good, but not incredible.
Expensive jackson? Amazing guitars!
Personally I disagree about the cheap guitars. Every cheap Jackson I pick up feels the price. It feels like a plastic kids toy almost. I have a $100 Ibanez GIO that I prefer playing to the Gibson SG I used to have. Just a personal preference I guess.
I love these videos, the more affordable guitars are the guitars the most people can relate with
Finally a video on something other than fender or gibson.
Love my LTD F400FM it has the perfect neck for me. Didn’t realise they still made that shape! Also got myself a Jackson RR minion from your store the other day - something fun to goof around on 😃
I got a Jackson Dinky Minion in hot pink for fun two weeks ago! After a setup and change to thicker strings it plays pretty well haha
I like the clean sound of the Jackson. It also won the tremolo abuse test!
How the hell do these videos just keep getting better and better
Good comment by chappers, nut cut and how it is strung at the tuner end effects the tunning stability. 👍
The best shred machine: Rob Chapman. Guitar: doesn’t matter
Love the fact that the F-50 is first! I have that beauty of a beast in my collection! Love it!
I just picked up a lefty F-50 off of Craigslist for $60. I am loving the guitar.
@@RollerCoasterFenatic Cool, I got mine 2010 F-50 for 100$US, which is a good price considering the guitar and I are in Hawaii (wherein everything are ridiculously overpriced). I've swapped the pups for a set of DiMarzios. A Super Distortion S in the neck and a X2N in the bridge. Altho I noticed the F-50 used by Rob was a standard dual humbuckers whilst the one I have has a single coil sized dual rail pup in the neck while the bridge has a full sized humbucker in the bridge (a VERY unusual combo, the only other guitar I have that sports a similar setup is my 1989 Ibanez RG565R-CA, a VERY rare spot model).
I'm seriously thinking of swapping out the pups for a set of Seymour Duncans. Specifically a Cool Rail in the neck and a El Diablo in the bridge. Should give me a bit more versatility with a bluesy '59-style pup in dual rail single coil size and a dual rail humbucker bridge for hot gainy leads. My current setup is a bit TOO gainy in that is still too hot even when the volume is rolled back.
You should do a Tom petty sound like without busting a bank
I've been waiting since before he passed away for one and I wish they'd do it already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
super cool
Fell in love with the metallic blue jackson js22 so I ordered one online. I hope it does not disappoint. 22 frets aren't cutting it for me anymore.
compraste la guitarra, como te va con ella?
@@alexquevedo484 it is a great guitar. I have a video uploaded recently of me playing it
The white ibanez was my second guitar,
Ps I currently use a black epiphone les Paul custom as my main
Progress!!!! But the ibanez is still a guitar I enjoy using
Great vid. Can I suggest that these budget tests go through a good but affordable amp? Such as a katana because no point in putting affordable guitars through a 200 quid pedals or an all valve amp..... also use the same amp for all budget test/ shoot outs
Just my 2p.
Love your channel guys!
I got all 3 Jackson JS11,JS22, and last one I bought just Saturday 6/25/22 my Jackson JS34Q DKA2 killer guitars boys
I actually want to see a video on the argument around 15 minutes in.
Buy 2 cheap guitars with a trem system. Upgrade the bridge on one of the guitars, upgrade the nut and tuners on the other, see which one is the better upgrade for which purpose. I think that'd be an interesting thing to have a full side-by-side comparison for.
I have, hands down, the coolest F-50 to live. Took the paint off, finished it in flat black dye with an oil finish. Sanded it to highlight the contours. Removed that silly middle poky bit on the headstock. Removed the logo. Replaced all of the chrome hardware. Put in some Duncan Invaders with Dunlop pots and gave it Hipshot locking tuners. It.Is.Awesome.
I bought an Ibanez Gio and changed the strings to 11's...The sound is sick and it stays in tune even through massive bends and trem abuse. Best 160 quid ive ever spent. Just for comparison, I also have a Brian May replica at 700 quid, which imo doesnt hold a candle, although its good for queen songs. Hmm..might go 11's on the BM.
I know this comment was a year+ ago, but I have to ask, are lower gauge strings also gonna work well on grg140 and are the pickups the guitar comes with any good? I've seen a few people online complaining about pickups :3
Rob messing with the trem sounds like an episode of 'The Clangers' , only those of a certain age will remember this 😂
I just bought one on sale for $250 Canadian. It’s a really nicely made guitar. Great neck. Great frets. Very comfortable and solid. Can’t beat it.
One what? Lol.
Which one, the coffee mug?😅
I have been looking at getting a grg for sometime now every review I've watched hasn't included use of the trem thank god I finally found one one that's the reason I want the guitar
Can you guys do a mid price shred machines? Also, for us metal guys, can you do a shootout for 7 string guitars?
They did mid price here: th-cam.com/video/ZdL5J_GSgTs/w-d-xo.html
Get a solar, schecter or an upper range harley benton and if you have a bit more money to blow get a kiesel or an ibanez prestige.
@@kyatzz well thanks but I thought this: since new guitars are announced every every or every 6 months than it would be nice to see a global seller like andertons to do a demo of few models from every brand like ibanez, jackson, charvel, schecter and so on. I personally like Jackson and I'll buy more of their guitars, but for other guitar players it would be nice to have a demonstration of wider variety of guitars, especially 7 string guitars.
@ oh absolutely, would make for a fun video. Just wanted to share with you what I think are some of the best value guitars in mid price range for those particular styles. Just in case you were actively looking to buy something.
“I like the snapper”
“You sure do”
Ordered the Jackson JS22 today, first guitar! Looks really cool and only £160, other cheap entry level guitars look nowhere near as good as this!
UP GRADE THE PICK UP AND STRING LOCK AND POTS AND YOU HAVE A GUITAR FOR LIFE, NO KIDDIG MOD IT INSTEAD OF BUYING A NEW GUITAR
I’ve had mine for 4 months or so now and I love it
The Jackson looks the best, as always!
Well, if Rob is playing, every guitar sounds awesome.
*disagrees in respect*
He is pretty sloppy in this video, I’m no better I know, but sloppy nonetheless
@@macmuggo5459 he said he had not played for 6 months. I once took a few months off and had 50% my normal shred ability if that
About the trem system losing tuning, Chapman has a point there. I bought a 50R$ (12USD) guitar from a friend of mine, and by using .10 strings on it i can abuse the trem system without any worries, the guitar wont lose tuning. Helped that i tweaked on the string-trees and locked the strings on the tuner (no locking-tuners, just technique, youtube helped on that matter)
that blue one is beautiful!!
The "Pete's Tally" Joke was Hilarious, also, a great band name...."Hello Detroit, please welcome for one night only....PETE'S TALLY!!!!!!"
The pups don't have plastic to prevent rust, its on them to prevent metal particles or debris from being attracted to them. Its the same reason you should always cover pups before using steel wool on the frets. Imagine all the particles and junk in a factory!
the Eastcoast GV320 actually sounded the best, by quite some way, those pickups sounded great, sounded like it cost a lot more than the rest
I think so.. brown colour is better tone.
We need a Gig for under £500 updated for 2019! (with the katana off limits ofc).
Would've like to have seen you include a Kramer from the website!!!
expected the LTD or the Ibanez to be the better sounding one. Was surprised when I liked the Eastcoast more. At least from what I heard on the video.
totally agree
The Ltd sound just sucks.
The Jackson is great!
Cheers from Portugal 🍺🤘
NOT tryna hate but, you play a 200$ guitar with a 2000$+ amp and pedals so no wonder its gonna sound amazing
This exactly.
Then when the 2000$ guitar sounds amazing, can we all say that its all in the amp? You have to be fair and play everything through similar level of gear.
This was fun. More fun!
Thanks guys!
Nut versus bridge tuning stability debate is set to when? 🤘😆
That was great. Thanks you guys
"Don´t go near the trem arm Rob".... BOOM! Straight to the trem! DOH!
I had a Jackson JS22, which I ended up returning two days later... absolute worst tremolo system I ever had on a guitar, even after a set-up. Then I bought a JS32 in Pavo Purple - best lower end Jackson I ever played and she looks beautiful.
I think im going to get js32 dinky soon
I also have the JS32 Pavo Purple, it is amazing and almost too beautiful!
After owning a squier mustang bullet HH and now bought a jackson js11 dinky I feel the jackson is so superior the quality feels years ahead.
I was looking at a JS32 king V it was $249 usd and went up to $399 usd I just want a cheap guitar because I'm on a budget iys bs that guitar prices are going up. I'm just going to put some aftermarket humbuckers in my strat because its cheaper that way.
I've had my js22 7 for almost a year I had a line 6 spider 4 15 watt now I have a orange crush 12 with a mxr fullbore metal pedal i'm a Orange amp guy
Xmas just round the corner, Kids wanting guitars, Shredders for under £200. Anderton’s Marketing, I salute you!
Finally a Dinky!
Bout time guys!
My young shredder has the ltd f-10 and it's filthy good.
Krull is awesome. One of my favourite childhood films. The Cyclops was played by Bernard Breslaw.
It would be interesting to see these comparisons with the guitars recorded and produced to see if you can tell the difference that way. Without being there on the room it's very difficult to hear the difference between a £200 and a £2000 guitar when different licks are being played on it. Maybe record the same song/riff on 5 or so guitars using the same gear and then see if you can notice the difference in price. Just a thought
The plastic is to protect the components from getting buggered up during their trip to the assembly line and during the assembly process. Shred on Cap and Chap.
I think the Eastcoast would be a really good guitar for someone like me who is not so much into the lead playing. Otherwise, you can't really not rate an Ibanez for lead stuff if you've ever listened to Steve Vai (although I would rather go for the GRG121DX-WNF at this price range).
Krull is a classic, 1st film we ever hired/watched on VHS \m/
great vid by the way
Agreed great movie
Noice! im gonna buy one of these for sure...
The best duet!!!💪💪💪
loved Dark Chrystal
Rob made the Jackson sound like the Clangers 😎
Wow, the sound of jackson is very good for metal
Got a ESP LTD mh-50-nt for £120 and I Luv it
Funs stuff. I have the js34q in red. Love it. Looking at getting a hh style one next
I own one and it gives my ESP and B.C Rich a run for their money. Very solid and playable.
The Jackson is the one I have, but black gloss.
That ending is hilarious!
Winner, which one do I want to take home. A chapman guitar. That Jackson or ltd will do. I liked all of them, they all sounded a little different. He played the best on the ibanez that's the shredder for rock music, and the Jackson seemed like more for metal and chugging. Obviously the ltd is made for people who favor heavy metal music.
Good vid guys (as always) but great fun too. This vid does highlight two things it took me (certainly pre-internet days at least) ages to learn....
1) An 'affordable' guitar can, and most often will, sound great through expensive high end amps - but be warned - it does not work the other way round.
2) Got staying in tune issues on an affordable guitar with a floating trem? Easy. Make sure the strings are wound just right and not too much or too little round the post - or - better still fit locking tuners. Get it (or have it) fully set up. If still having trouble then also look at changing the nut and/or machines. I've put locking tuners and a Graphtech nut on many a (admittedly) not too shabby out of the box Squiers. But they stay in tune great after that! Ok, if you want to do crazy divebombs and the like then you need a Floyd Rose but 'general' playing? No problem. They stay in tune.
Sorry Lee but Chappers is bang on correct with that one!
No a single negative comment about Rob! Good work TH-cam people please keep this up!
Finally another fun video
Rob should further explain this string slipping on the tuner and how to prevent that from happening. I am very curious.
Eastcoast axe had best tone by far. It's pickups had best clarity and definition. It also had best natural sustain that might be caused by thicker neck. LTD had muddy sounding pickup although I suspect it probably is best playing one out of the box.
My Ibanez rg is £250 cheapest guitar I’ve ever brought but it plays so well
I used to own the cherry red version of the LTD F-50. If you want a cheap shredder, BUY IT at $199.99. I loved that thing and only got rid of it because I was in desperate need of money at the time. Wish I still had it.