LSV Drafts Abzan Tokens In Modern Horizons 3!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 มิ.ย. 2024
- Well, can't say tokens is the usual strategy for Abzan in Modern Horizons 3, but LSV can make it work!
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Skipping on the white one drop rare hurt me
Really doesn't seem the thing to be going sixth pick. It is a bomb.
Yeah that card is slam dunk. White Ragavan vibes.
I actually have a lot of trouble watching LSV sometimes man. Card is a slam dunk first pick
YEA.. WHAT A NOOB
Consuming Corruption with 3 swamps is a choice.
I thought that was so funny when I noticed it during deckbuilding. That many tri-lands means he's got a ton of black sources so actually casting the spell is really easy...but that many trilands also means the spell is capped at a maximum of 3 damage.
"A Bold Choice" as the guy who wasn't Cotton might say. I swear I thought it must have been an oversight the first time it was drawn. I also think it's worth exploring a monoblack archetype in MH3. The uncommon is free in drafts if they're open and very strong if the text actually works. The 4 mana tutor would be nice, and it's also not in demand.
Nightmare wombat might be the hardest creature type ever.
Fun deck but i would call this a counter deck more than a token deck 😂
Yesss. LSV drafting on Arena is my favorite.
Is it just me or does the Eldrazi archetype look so much stronger than any of the other ones? Feels weird.
I have the same feeling.
Especially with the Chrysalis at common, that card is ridiculously pushed.
They did the same thing in Battle for Zendikar and Oath of the Gatewatch. They made highly pushed rares for the Eldrazi with Thought-knot Seer, Matter Reshaper, and Reality Smasher, and at the same time gave the Ally draft archetype the gaaaarbage "Cohort" mechanic. It's pretty obvious in both sets they wanted the Eldrazi to be powerful by comparison, as it helps cement the illusion that Eldrazi are "powerful by comparison" for the Timmys.
need to have cheap removal to kill all their dorks and even the spawn, aggro decks can go under, and usually the eldrazi decks don't have much removal of their own so high synergistic value decks can potentially out grind them.
I just drafted this deck last night - the rare connive land and the colorless counter swapper land are both incredible, and evolution witness can go absolutely bananas, especially if you draft 3 or 4 of them. The BW persist gargoyle is also super good with the colorless land since you can move the -1/-1 counter onto opponents creatures.
That third game was insane!
The Wombat Signature Slam miss REALLY messed me up. I really was on LSV's same train of thought thinking the slam would give 2 Counters before punching the other creature. The wording is really hard for me to understand why it happened in the way it did. Was this possibly an Arena error? Any judges around?? This is gonna keep me up at night now lmao - Occurence: 50:50
The ability granted by the wombat isn't a replacement effect like Hardened Scales, it's a triggered ability that would happen the first moment you have priority after resolving the effect that places the counter. You have to resolve the entirety of the Signature Slam before the triggers can go on the stack. There are potential wordings that could allow it to work as desired, such as if Signature Slam had a "When you do..." reflexive trigger clause before the damage was dealt. That would be a separate trigger to deal damage after the spell resolves, and you could put the additional counter trigger to resolve beforehand.
I feel like this type of interaction will come up in paper events (isn't the next Pro Tour this draft format?) and may not get picked up by either player, as it should work the way we initially think it does... weird!
@@batsmak2506 To add onto your example (for those who maybe still don't fully get it), I'd compare the Wombat to Winding Constrictor, which would have worked with Slam in this situation. In fact I think it's the perfect comparison to illustrate why the Wombat works this way, because Wombat is basically a direct descendent of the Constrictor - same cost, stats, and general effect. Difference being, Constrictor is a replacement effect rather than a triggered ability. It reads "If one or more counters would be put on an artifact or creature you control, that many plus one of each of those kinds of counters are put on that permanent instead." This ability is a replacement effect (you can tell because replacement effects always read "if...instead", whereas triggered abilities always read "when", "at" or "whenever"). Replacement effects are not triggers, they don't use the stack, they just happen during the resolution of whatever spell or ability they're modifying. So whereas the Constrictor would have changed the effect of Signature Slam as it happened, the Wombat had to see the slam fully resolve before triggering its ability to go on the stack - by which time it was obviously too late.
I thought it was kind of funny that right at the start of the video LSV called out that one of the reasons the Wombat is good is because "it's effect triggers in two separate instances", and therefore triggers +1/+1 counter effects like Fetid Gargantua twice. But of course, in order for the Wombat to be able to do that, it can't work with signature slam - if it was a replacement effect like Constrictor, the Gargantua or whatever would only see one pile of counters being added and would therefore only trigger once. I was thinking about him saying that as I was watching him pass turn and discuss the Slam play - rooting for him to notice before it was too late.
Small Signature Slam tech shot this type of deck may occasionally do: if you persist a 1BW guy then Slam it, it's still a modified creature (with two counters total!...) during the resolution of the spell. The cancelation of -1/-1 and +1/+1 counters is a state-based effect that doesn't happen until immediately after a spell or ability finishes resolving.
The play here might have been to attack, repast, and Slam, although that's sort of awkward
Lsv is the best. So good at explaining thought process. And that thought process seems to be right like 99%+
These games you played several I've had so far indicate it's very hard to be tri-color off tri-lands. It's specifically the one swamp two black cards I need to play issue. I know you could have not cycled the land. But I don't think I'm being results oriented. I think that went wrong because it's an archetype of what can go wrong with manabases in MH3.
And several I've played.
Hydra trainer is just insane
Yeah leaving that up was definitely a first week of the format kind of play.
It’s literally one of Greens worst cards
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My experience with Abzan is the mana base just doesn't work in this format. All the adapt and adventures, etc have very specific color requirements and all the fixing is fetch lands. Even if you get 1 or even 2 sources per color, it's not enough
Thanks for making mistakes so I feel better in bronze.
Someone just got the best card in the set so far (guide of souls) pick 6 in pack 1.
Oof. Wombat is great but skipping the Eldrazi counter titan p1p1 is rough.
Beware careful with predictive tapping with Solar Transformer in play if you're multi-spelling. The game doesn't seem to prioritize leaving up mana that doesn't energy.
Watching it waste energy makes me sad.
man I love MtG and I love LSV but holy crap do I really dislike best of one
LSV Drafts Abzan Counters* (not Tokens), no?
This format seems pretty stale already when the eldrazi deck just seems like better than every other archetype.
It'll be improved once writhing chrysalis never gets past first pick, where it belongs
@@crytical7 In terms of draft, I think the fact that writhing chrysalis has reach really imbalances it because even G/W counters, which is another great archetype to possibly balance eldrazi, cannot fly over it with its flying creatures.
@@MLopezEfren oh yeah it's just ridiculous
@@MLopezEfren Yeah, I agree. It's the reach that really imbalances the card. Also, I think they should of toned down the base stats by -1/-1 at least.
so many bad picks imo
Easily the worst format in years.