A street takeover and a parking lot takeover aka Car Show are two different things and should be easily argued in court and with that being said a lot of the time the criminal process is often the punishment time & money and so on.
My thoughts as a non-US resident, but as someone who lives on a country with the same problem: Fucking Good. I'm thrilled to have some laws implemented on Takeovers, even if I won't be directly affected by them. I live where the issue is very similar, it's just F8x BMWs, C63s, R8s and this one Huracan Performante that make a shit ton of noise and do donuts in the middle of the street and sit at rev limiter. I really do hate those guys with a passion. Even if the cops abuse this, it's better than what was. Would you agree?
I agree with this as far as takeovers...the problem with it is they will apply these laws to street racing, i.e. no prep events and other meetups for sure.
Worst than the takeovers is how violent those kids get if a regular driver honks at them or attempts to drive past their takeover or if someone runs into them! They completely destroy people’s cars and assault people 🤦♂️ they need to be stopped nationwide
I'm glad they're rolling out more laws regarding this. I'm not someone who likes more regulation, but it's gotten to a point where it has to happen... I wish part of me moved to ATL sooner. I never got to witness the peak Car Culture here. By the time I got to ATL, Gwinnett County basically had no more sanctioned meets. I see old videos all the time of the Underground stuff and more "honorable" side of Street Racing and Stunting behind abandoned warehouses. Now it's all just clout nonsense with a bunch of clowns ruining day to day life. This was their comeuppance!
The funny thing is - some of them will come to the track and if you offer to teach them how to get better if they screw up, they will straight up deny that they are bad and curse you out. Lol
Can't get over the Ego they've built up. Ego and Pride are not the same thing and they struggle or simply can't separate or distinguish between the two. Then there are those who are so prideful they refuse the help even though they could benefit from it but rather figure it out on their own, which in and of it's self there is nothing wrong with. It's just hard to watch sometimes and not be overbearing if you're the type who loves or feels they have to help. In those scenarios best to just step back and let em cook. Eventually they'll improve.
What sucks is that lots of people are pushing tracks out of existence. They don't want to hear them, but 2 seconds later they complain about the street crap. Keep the tracks open and let people have fun safety.
@@jimmirogers3485 it wasn't my intent to sound like I'm blaming the tracks. It is absolutely NOT the fault of the track. I was simply mentioning that those (rightfully) complaining will quite often be the same person complaining about the track, when enough complain it eventually leads to the track's closure. This eliminates the safe controlled places that people can have fun with their cars, causing them to resort to taking their shenanigans to the streets.
@@yandhi6029 the vast majority of the time you are correct about that. But when people have nowhere to screw around safely they will eventually start screwing around on the street, making the issue even worse. It's a fucked situation anyway you look at it.
@@jimmirogers3485if you took 2 seconds and Google tracks closing, you'd learn most tracks close from the homeowners in the area getting sick of the noise and working together to get them shut down. Or passing ordances that kill the track. Using a Google product but not using Google is the irony of the decade for 80% of the internet users.
Birmingham, Alabama here: we used to have a really bad problem with the takeovers and street racing but recently they passed new laws that they would begin prosecuting people simply based on social media footage and they’ve almost all but dissolved seemingly overnight. The problem with most of these takeovers, at least the ones around here, is that no one owned the cars they were using. They’re all stolen so what do they care if they get damaged or seized by the police? One would also assume that if they have no disregard for a stolen car, they probably could not care less about driving around with a revoked license.
Realistically, most people don’t HAVE a local racetrack. Here in NYC the closest one is 3+ hours away, so there’s takeovers on a weekly basis. Not to mention most takeovers cars are STOLEN. Takeover guys aren’t car guys, they’re criminals who steal cars & got into cars for clout. I made a video on my channel about this, but they’re not going anywhere unfortunately
Man they don’t even need a track, they need a skid pad or parking lot. Moronic clout chasing to look edgy doesn’t work for your dumb crew if you’re not giving the finger to ‘society’ and the cops. They need this image to feel special.
Me too! And then some newer Mustang drove by and decided to floor it, creating a lot of noise and attention. He wasn’t part of the show, just someone desperate for attention.
In my area it's the opposite actually, it's the old domestic guys revving and doing stupid shit to ruin our cars and coffee meets.....guess because their old they just don't give a f anymore. But I was blown away seeing it coming primarily from them.
theres a show every friday night around my area that a lot of older people go to, but they grew it to the point where theres more younger people showing up. everyone just shows up, parks, talks, and the police (small town) dont care if they do burnouts or pulls while leaving as long as they are back at the speed limit by the stop light up the road a bit. favorite thing to go to weekly
I have an 1100 hp mustang and I love the car scene. Don’t get me wrong. But these takeovers are the worst things I’ve ever seen in my 35 years of living. Imagine working 14 hours trying to get home and they blocked the highway to do donuts on 676 in Philly, I was pissed
I started going to track on motorcycles several years ago because I wanted less legal risk and an environment I felt more safe in(less risk in regards to traffic, animals, road debris, ect) and I fell in love. I learned a ton and it made me really wake up to risks of everyday life. I used to goof off in traffic all the time with buddies and whatnot for many years prior. So once i started doing track, I quickly retracted myself from things that could legally get me in trouble and carry much longer lasting repercussions for my actions. Needless to say, just like you said, a lot of guys around me thought I was trying to act like I was better than them because "I went to the track" and was above riding on the streets, which then made them look at me like I was self indulged in myself and "HE OlNy RIdEs TracK". The major disconnect is that the type of mentality that these kids/young adults have with this behavior is that they just haven't matured and aren't able to think several years down the road at what they are doing today can greatly impact them in later life. (and the attention/clicks for sure)
Yea dont they know state police always catches their criminals? They may not catch u today still doesn’t mean ur safe they will hunt u down and get their fake car enthusiasts soon
as a somehow wiser than actions co-worker once said: "Sure you can , just start taking the warning labels off. Stupid will sort itself out real quick!"
I see this phrase on so many facebook comment threads my eyes usually just roll to the back of my head on sight. But for this, it makes too much sense.
Update: I'll clarify if I wasn't clear, I was meaning just general daily driving modified cars and being targeted as a result of crackdowns. Even while nothing is going on, just the assumption that were associated with takeover people due to driving a modified car. Sorry if i wasn't clear before. Seeing Takeovers getting slammed like this is poetic justice lol. I just hope police understand that not every modified car is part of that crowd, and mass-push street cars when we're simply driving to get food.
@@swagedelicyou shouldn’t have to worry about that when you have a modified car but your waiting for these fuckin awful people doing to stupid donuts in an intersection to go tf away so you can go home.
I had my license suspended for 2 years. I just walked and jogged to work. I was testing new gearbox on my time attack civic, and clocked on police radar +250 on highway, at 3.30am in the morning, on a tuesday. I got leaner sentence due to there being no traffic and I stopped for the officers.
I live in the Chicago suburbs and drive a nice Mustang. I will never drive my car to the city, because I know it'd be stollen within a hour, and I would see it later on the news doing donuts in the middle of Western Ave. Street takeovers are the most trashy, low class thing you can do with a car. Even trashier then truck nuts.
David, here’s the thing, no one at a street takeover is there to hone their drifting skills, practice sliding, or because they can’t afford a track day. They’re there because they want the attention that breaking the law brings them, breaking the law is “cool”, or at least that’s what they think… that hoon mentality man.
There is a percentage that would go to a track but they are expensive and limited not to mention every track I've seen has a tech inspection that is going to look for certain things and require you to wear a helmet and peaky stuff like that which they don't want to spend there money on but it is a lot of clout chasing and social media fame speaking
@@sqike001ton the ppl that would go to the track if they could afford it would rather go to a secluded location instead of a busy intersection and do their thing. These cats are out there for the clicks, likes and the thrill of breaking the law.
On another note, I fully blame hoonigan for takeovers and takeover mentality. No one was running around race/drift cars with cameras before those dipshits started doing it. At least they were on the same page with the drivers though. The morons saw it and just figured you can run around a bunch of bad drivers and it will be fine. It's not.
You don't need good credit to buy a Hellcat or any car. Just enough money. You really thought a credit score stopped people from buying cars? Or at least those types that buy those cars to do these things. 🤣
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Dude you know the right people you can get a brand new 392 Charger for $500 bucks
Meanwhile in Los Angeles, there is apparently an activist movement to "legalize" takeovers by shutting down an intersection ahead of time and allowing people to freely occupy it for a set amount of time with no interuptions. I don't know how much traction it has in being a thing but it has the same vibe of letting people get away with $1000 worth of stolen goods.
I made a video on takeovers a while ago, and I was absolutely flabbergasted how many people in favor of takeovers were hating in the comments. I tried my best to reason with them, but they don't want to be reasoned with. They think they're right no matter how wrong they are. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like they will learn until they seriously hurt themselves, someone else, or get arrested.
I learned a long time ago, those engaging in criminal black subculture aren’t much for thinking. Don’t bother having an opinion in basketball or boxing channels, as you’ll be swarmed by people stating opinions as facts. These are the people that think yelling and threatening violence is just part of common discourse
i'm glad but also worried that police would start labeling every car meet as a takeover. if i go to a car meet i'm bringing a drone and recording so if one person decides to ruin it for everyone, i can just show police "hey it was this guy, this is who you want to have a talk to, everyone else was following the rules".
Coming from someone who street races (on empty roads where nobody is in danger), seeing takeovers is what ruins the car scene a lot. As someone from the car community, we dont consider takeover people apart of the car community.
Causing Emergency Vehicles to have to wait is utter BS. I think the charges should be more serious. Down here in S. Florida we also have motorcyclists blowing up I95 at times. The bad part is they panic drivers and cause accidents.
Old school street racing. Go to the meet up spot. Set up the race. Put money in the spot. Go to the race spot. Race. Go back to the meet up spot. Collect money. Bounce. I miss those days.
Those days died about 15-20yrs ago, bud. But I'm right there with ya. Secluded strips of road miles away from anything or anyone, 15-30min MAX at any given location, rendezvous at a gas station and never the doubling back to the same spot twice in a night... Man, takes me back reminiscing the good days lol.
@@frstwhsprs TikTok is very late to the game. Instagram is way worse and it has been around longer. If I see a car with an Instagram sticker on it, I immediately assume the driver suffers from Main Character Syndrome.
I live next to Sonoma Raceway. They stopped their Wednesday Night Drift event this year, conveniently soon after I put a welded diff in my car SMH, so now people drift on the streets. I don't participate in street drifting, but as far as the argument "go to the track", its not that accessible to everyone.
The only thing concerning about these laws is the possibility of innocent people nearby being affected and accused of being a bystander, if I’m in the area with a unique car are the cops going to claim I’m a bystander and will they believe me if I claim I’m not?
@midnight347, right, cause they don't get set up while blocking traffic for everyone else making it impossible to leave the area if you're slightly unlucky
Will this law be abused to charge peaceful, non-disruptive car meets with staging a takeover? It's already happening to Whistlindiesel's camera man. He's been on VINwiki talking about it.
What happened to whistling Diesel's cameraman is that The usual suspects would show up to his non-disruptive car meets and do the usuall stupid disruptive takeover s***
@twotailedavenger Unfortunately the 1% of idiots are going to ruin it for the rest of us. That is the way it works. Happening in the motorcycle world too, where the squids are making us all look bad and cops think we're all d-bags.
One thing I’m afraid of is a angry cop seeing a nice charger that is getting blocked at a light where these mentally dent ins are at and says hey you are a part of this your shit is fucked
I live in the Bay Area(where sideshows/takeovers originated) and you’ll find them everywhere. They do it in the middle of the bay bridge all the time with no one getting caught.
I was curious and went on a history lesson about its origin found videos from the 80s and 90s of the swinging in intersection, etc, yet people think it's a new phenomenon
@@kssmkkdfit is a new thing. The stuff you speak of was the exception not the rule. I never even heard of it back then it may have been a thing in certain places but it wasn't common like it is now by any means social media made it far far worse.
To everyone concerned that they’ll be charged because of one other idiot: that’s the point. The most effective policing strategy is the one in which the community enforces the law on its own. Guaranteed if twenty people get charged because of one, those twenty will make damn sure they never ride with that one person ever again, and that anyone they ride with in the future will behave themselves. Forcing a higher standard through peer pressure is a powerful tool.
I think David was more referring to larger meets than just you and your buds chilling. Sometimes that one guy is just someone that heard about the meet and comes by, does their dumb shit and drives off.
That's not gonna work. It would probably work in a classroom or bootcamp, but punishing the entirety of the community would just make them turn against you. Meaning they would try to make your life even harder as a cop (not giving info, misdirecting, etc.).
Lets not forget that most of these cars being destroyed at these takeovers are stolen. So impounding a car if your the owner or not seems to be a financial burden on the person who got their ride stolen. They really didnt thing that one through did they.
Often they’re reported stolen to dodge the payment. In the other case, I think the owners’ probably dealt with it already & is moving on. These cars can circulate for years, with poor maintenance.
It already has backfired at least once here in Texas. Two guys were by themselves trying to drift in a closed warehouse / industrial area parking lot and got arrested and cars impounded. They were purposely away from the public during a time where no one was around and got harsh penalties.
@ThatDudeinBlue This I am worried about as someone who hosts meetups and stuff... with the strict rule of NO REVVING, NO DONUTS, NO WRECKLESS DRIVING. I'm worried if one person comes and misbehaves and the wrong officer comes, he's on my ass as the organizer.
@@Treerootz1 I'm just stating, like David did in the video, police being smooth brained and charging you with Takeover charges when it wasn't a Takeover.
@@Treerootz1a street race or a cash days is not the same now personally if no one is around they shouldn't be able to charge u as if u are endangering people when there is no 1 but if ur shutting down a road to where u don't let people through or racing on the highway weaving through traffic then ya ticket them whatever works but if u don't think cops will abuse this law look back to all our other laws they enforce that aren't applicable to the situation
Sad the takeovers have made the meets almost impossible. Promoters are afraid to put on meets thinking the police will find a way to associate the two. A few bad apples spoils the pie for all of us car folks.
A big challenge with any of these laws is simply the ability to effectively hold folks accountable, or create a sufficient enough perception of being held accountable. An unfortunate reality in many places is a reduced public service budget which greatly limits the manning, training and equipping of the law enforcement services. Rules and laws carry little weight if they cannot be effectively enforced. There is the additional challenge you spoke to which is the activities being conducted simply for the "internet clout". It's attention, that quick dopamine hit from getting "likes" and feeling supported, despite the illegal and irresponsible activities to get it.
i dont think yall understand we dont go about takeovers without structure or planning the meets i am apart of in the Northeast we have a response to police that changes depending on whos hosting and how many people are there, usually everyone leaves the spot once the cops come and nobody gets caught. If we choose to block and keep the show on while police are there then we do and we dont have problems. We have spots cops dont care about and respect our space, theyre are plenty of places other than intersections to have meets. Meets are always at night when no civilians are around, rarely is there injuries or fights in meets with 300+ people. I just want all of you to understand we created our own social events where we can do what we want with our cars and have a good time. This is not some anarchy block takeover, most of us are here to enjoy cars and people
This comment is what I will understand but unfortunately many people here will not understand or don't care cause they see you as a threat to the car culture cause they think illegal street racing is bad for the community even though street racing is part of the community and I see takeovers as non threats except for a few fools but at the end of the day it depends on what behavior of who monitor the meets and illegal stuff is part of it too.
These "takeovers" or "side shows" have gotten so bad these past couple of years that a lot of everyday people associate anyone with a sports cars to be into that type of stuff. I sometimes get weird looks when I come into a gas station even though my car isn't heavily modified. Of course, they might be looking due to another reason, but I live in an area where my local news stations be reporting a side show/takeover every 4-6 weeks it seems like. These types of people are just making the broad car community look bad. Some states are already pushing heavy on electric vehicles and making modifying your car hard, this is just more ammo for them to use.
My concern is just as dude in blue said, a bored cop will probably have a huge laugh after ticketing 20 people just hanging out in a parking lot because one jackass laid some rubber as he left
who cares. hanging around in large groups/gangs is for the birds. it is ALWAYS a risk factor for some shoes size iq activities. buy the ticket take the ride
@@SonsOfDeForest gangs? Well, in my city we have car meets that happen weekly, some monthly, some annually. The different groups have participation numbers ranging from 30-300 people. Some groups the average age has got to be at least 65. I wouldn't quite call them a gang. And we are an inclusive city here in riverside California, so we don't charge a participation fee to meet in a parking lot on a Sunday morning. But I'm not worried about our police abusing a law like this but I know for sure our 2 neighboring cities cops are probably itching to get the chance to steal and destroy some cars and fund their next pay raise with a load of "spectator" tickets
these laws will absolutely abused and 100% will be used to break up ANY unofficial car gathering. Unfortunately a whole lotta a-holes ruined it for everyone and this is the price we all pay.
Street racing and takeovers are just so different. Street racing like you said, the point of it is to stay unseen. The only people you want ro see you do it are fellow racers or opponents, and once it's done, you head out. Takeovers are just done to fuck shit up and annoy the shit out of everyone. Talentless idiots that just spin the car in circles and do nothing else. No talent in the driving between two people.
the Atlanta Police dept will ABSOLUTELY take advantage of this law 🤣 they still profile me in my corvettes but use the exhaust law "even though it doesnt apply to me due to my residence which they know by running my tag and license. GSP dont even give a reason until they see the law license in my wallet. Never endorse "ambiguous" laws because it will ALWAY be purposely misunderstood by officers and DA's. While it is needed for the terrible kitty 8mph small circle drivers, it will theoretically stop any car meet they want with zero repercussions to the officers because the now have a vague law for qualified immunity now. No more safe gas station meetups promised before road cruises or going with your quad as a group to events. No foodtruck/block party/possibly no car shows safely, I could go on but basically any moment a officer wants to pull rank for ego moments for not being able to have the cars we do.... well they now have qualified immunity safety for it meaning no repercussions at all if they do misuse the law.
@@DrSpoculus 17 years in law here, I'm quite certain its how QI works. I can explain it if you would like. Also you can tell who actual has nice cars and socialize because no one who does would take it how you have. We all have been in a bad cop ego moment during meetups. If you dont live in Atlanta or review our stats of lawsuits which Quite large. "Qualified immunity is a type of legal immunity that protects a government official from lawsuits alleging that the official violated a plaintiff's rights, only allowing suits where officials violated a “clearly established” statutory or constitutional right." meaning all they need for protection when acting over the top one night at a normal even is : They have 10+ cars and are not quiet.... if you have the income for hiring me or another attorney no biggy but if you dont.... you must eat a potential felony or $4000 ticket just for being parked or cruising with 10 or more friends. Basically even a unsanctioned car meetup or car show can qualify for this law and all the officer has to say is they were mistaken if you hire a lawyer to go after their QI. But do explain your career I can provide my bar license numbers what about you?
@@Rome__king seems he didnt read the "cops relax when they see my law license in my wallet" part 🤣 love the 3 corvettes yellow is such a beautiful color! He wont understand seems he may get "privilege" so he has no fear of the treatment otherwise this wouldnt be surprise that he has no idea how qualified immunity works. This is the person who says all cops arent bad despite every wrongful moment they have an entire team with them assisting 😭. But you only know this if you have nice things or "you know" 🤎 lol.
@@DrSpoculus the law is not the issue its the fact a cop can abuse laws and often do when they are vague. So do you blame the person who will purposely find ways to abuse the law or ..... the law makes making them in good faith that cops wont abuse them since...you know...they are cops of the LAW lmao. you must be 7yrs old
the cops thinkimg a normal meet would be a takeover already happend, one of whistlindiesels guys got arrested because kids with validation syndrome decided to do takeovers around his meets
Praise them and they keep doing it bc people like it, tell them its not cool and they keep doing it bc they want to prove you wrong, there's no winning against pure unfiltered stupidity
Car meets have gotten so bad and out of hand i can't even go to them with my dad anymore since he has a cdl and doesn't want to risk getting pulled over for just being there and possibly losing his job, it sucks but hey at least we can still go to actual events and shows together.
You make very valid points and I agree with your take completely. Unfortunately, local law enforcement and city government where I live decided that drift racing needed to be outlawed along with street takeovers. Clackamas Country prohibited Pat's Acres Racing Complex from holding drift events, so the track option is no longer an alternative in this part of Oregon.
Only ever saw one street takeover. Two performance cars revving their engines and burning rubber for about 3 minutes before the police lights got close enough signaling the start. Was supposedly a yearly thing they did in honor of someone who died on that stretch of road, probably street racing. Racers took off quickly, and police started the chase. Only was the two cars though that stopped the road though, not a bunch of kids and cars doing donuts. Didn't quite support it, but they only stayed for about 3 minutes and kept people from going home by the same time... more concerned with the reckless driving and police pursuit that followed, yet I heard nothing about it.
Tbh I haven’t even gone to meets in like 2+ years and I’m only 26. All the groups in chat would always be talking about some weird non-car related shit about like teenager gay jokes to each other or fetish stuff, like I’m just here for car stuff 🤦🏼♂️
@@DrBoofMar I’m Canadian and i never said anything about politics🧐 drifting is cool…racing is cool.. going in circles surrounded by idiots is low iq moves
The only thing that might make a difference if if they take you car on the first offense and you can’t get it back. Then they might deem it not worth losing their car.
This movement is coming to our streets now, but the issue is the violence towards people who are not part of it, along with damage to the property. We've just had two occasions lately where people were seriously hurt by being hit by a car participating in it. One of them is now paralysed by the incident and it apparently is his friend who hit him.
Bad company leads to bad morals(poor judgement), bad morals leads to bad living! Choose Your friends wisely!! Besides, Clout chasing is f'-ing stupid! I'd rather daily drive a slow boring car and improve my miniscule driving skills on a racing simulator than to be some hot shot who goes viral over something crazy I did at some lame-a$$ 'takeover'! Driving skill and car control is far more practical in my eyes than to impress a bunch a yahoos just itching to see you fail & embarass yourself for a cheap laugh. F#ck the clicks, Give me an old corolla with a manual transmission instead! That to me is way more fun! And I'll have that fun without putting anyone else at risk! 'But it only has 120hp...' IDC, DAMMIT!! Give me the old corolla, and leave me alone!!
Man here in Bham Alabama people have died in wrecks during these. They also find a lot of stolen cars when they bust them. And the races man back 20 years ago you could find races all in the city. Thursday nights were mostly bikes. Saturdays was for vehicles.
Used to be a person only had a few friends putting stupid ideas in their head so they were limited on the dumb ideas they could come up with. Now, with the proliferation of the Internet, the sky is the limit on how many dumb ideas a person gets in their head from millions of other idiots online
Funny part about that is, a test & tune night is what like $20-$25 for unlimited runs, atleast where i’m at in PA. Same with a grassroots drift event what is it $25-$50 to register as a driver?! I could empty my cup holder at the coinstar and afford a track day. Takeover dudes fr dont have two pennies to rub together
Yea I definitely think this law will be abused. Anyone who does cruises on the street will probably be targeted as well. Takeovers are bad and need to be stopped but since it's already illegal to do donuts in intersections I definitely don't think we need more laws.
100% agree with everything you said, but we also need to address Track Accessibility & Write to Local Officials for zoning for automotive track construction.
Laws against the drivers mean and will change nothing. They're already breaking the law and don't care, plus it encourages them to run endangering more innocent people. Make the punishment for being in the crowd really really harsh. $10k fines and 90 days in jail. Not either or, both. Those people are easier to catch and without spectators the drivers won't show up.
there's so many of these idiots in Omaha, NE that post or involve themselves in this stuff. Then once a big group here like 1320video says something about it. There they are in the comments agreeing that they don't like it, but yet they're the ones doing it. Btw it's ALWAYS Mopar guys.
You can’t argue with these people on why takeovers are bad… to do something so blatant, they have a ton of issues in their life with decision making… takeovers are just a small portion of their bad habits.
Not to mention the countless videos and insurance claims from street takeovers where they blocked an intersection, hit YOUR SHIT while doing half-assed donuts, and then run. Hit and run.
@@matts5634 it’s not a skill or professional to race on a highway full of other cars people go to professional School to do it on a track most want to do it professionally and people do illegal drag racing
Being fined for watching a takeover is like being issued a citation for standing there, witnessing a bank robbery. And I say that as a former cop. It's stupid and insane.
I don’t believe a former cop would lack the foresight to see that the crowd is what makes a takeover happen. Use critical thinking skills instead of thinking like a 14 year old.
@@scottoleson1997agreed. Any takeover spectators are just as guilty as those driving especially in those bigger ones where they gang up on regular drivers trying to get through.
David, thanks for speaking up. Show people the way and they may follow. On the one hand, it may change the dynamic at the track, but at the same time, the increased track use could certainly make business more profitable for track owners, which seems like it could lead to good things.
Georgia has some of the most harsh traffic laws. You can get a Super Speeder ticket for just 15mph over in a 45 and you will not be able to beat it. If you are a resident it's like 6 or something points right off the bat on your record. Don't mess around in Georgia.
New people at track days are awesome. It's great to see someone transition from "My 900HP Mustang will beat anything" to "Oh wow I'm parked next to an SF90" and eventually "I just got lapped by a Miata," to "I think I can carve a tenth off during the next session." Street takeovers are lame and irresponsible. If this is what it takes to make it stop, I'm all for it. Sadly, I fear that the "it'll never happen to me, f!ck The Man" attitude so common among the children that are involved in these events will limit the law's effectiveness.
90 dollars for a whole day?! man... its about 30 ish € per lap around nordschleife. A SINGLE lap. not the whole day. A singular lap. Without the GP course. You guys in the states have NO clue, how good you have got it with your track days.
Oh, those in the know absolutely know.. cars and fun with cars are incredibly accessible here and well, we're for the most part enjoying that. Its a certain small but incredibly cancerous group that does dumb shit and gives the rest of us a bad name to the general public. But yeah, no excuse not to pay a lil money to go play and be better, the thing is that's not what they're after. They dont want to be better, they want to brag and get attention for doing illegal shit. Nothing more, nothin less.
That isn’t common at all. I’m in louisiana and we don’t have anything like that. We have a drag strip which is cheap and we have one race track that’s expensive as hell.
@@ChadAV69 yet its still much more than we have. Yes we have the Hockenheim Ring, but there are hardly any "Touristenfahrten". The Lausitzring? pretty much closed apart from the major race events. Oschersleben? Nearly dead. And youre not allowed to drift on either of them unless its a dedicated drift event every once in a solar eclipse.
@@sepehr-9210 exactly! ganz genau! Wir haben legitim nichts, abgesehen von entweder Assetto Corsa oder halt illegal auf Parkplätzen oder auf den Hauptstraßen um irgendwie Driften zu üben. We got legit nothing, apart from either Assetto Corsa or just do some sketchy illegal shit on a parking lot or straight up on the main roads to practise drifting.
I went to one car meet, with my 92 JDM Mitsubishi GTO TT AWD...when leaving, the kid at the exit, in full view od the cops, kept screaming at me to 'SEND IT!!' This was on dirt and gravel and there were other cars and people behind me, there were 9 police SUV's at the exit, and the kid clearly didn't know that AWD cars don't do burnouts. First and last time I went to a social media meet-up.
They saying they don’t have money for a track day is just a silly excuse they just don’t have the skill to go around a track, and don’t wanna humiliate themselves there they wanna humiliate themselves online and cause problems to normal people and have no self accountability.
In my opinion those laws aren't harsh enough. Most of them probably don't have a driver's license. Fines need to be more personal. Like going to jail in general population. See how many repeat offenders there are after a year in jail or more.
Thoughts on the new laws?
A street takeover and a parking lot takeover aka Car Show are two different things and should be easily argued in court and with that being said a lot of the time the criminal process is often the punishment time & money and so on.
what state was the law changed?
My thoughts as a non-US resident, but as someone who lives on a country with the same problem: Fucking Good.
I'm thrilled to have some laws implemented on Takeovers, even if I won't be directly affected by them.
I live where the issue is very similar, it's just F8x BMWs, C63s, R8s and this one Huracan Performante that make a shit ton of noise and do donuts in the middle of the street and sit at rev limiter.
I really do hate those guys with a passion. Even if the cops abuse this, it's better than what was. Would you agree?
I agree with this as far as takeovers...the problem with it is they will apply these laws to street racing, i.e. no prep events and other meetups for sure.
Oh my God, we are starting to become like old man, oldmandudeinblue 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 yeah these people are ruined it for everyone
Takeovers are cancer to the auto scene.
More like type 2 diabetes because it’s completely avoidable 😂
Cry about it
@@belchbat9955very well put
Track rules and fees are cancer
Rules keep people safe. Fees are needed for upkeep. Sad that someone had to tell you that.@@JacobBitner
The type of people who frequent street takeovers are the same people who glorify criminal activity and behavior.
True
Absolutely
And it seems like being a karen is so popular that the “car community” is just a bunch of snowflakes 😂😂
@@DrBoofMar I take it that apart of the ghetto street takeover group? A man of the “culture”?
@@chady7009 sounds about white
The kids doing street takeovers are the same ones who thought eating tide pods was a good idea.
They’re probably the ones who filmed their younger siblings doing it. These types of people have no sense of empathy
I hate takeovers so much
Brown kids
@@Freddy_Confetti I’ve seen people of all colors partaking in the “sport”
Or getting your mother pregnant.
Worst than the takeovers is how violent those kids get if a regular driver honks at them or attempts to drive past their takeover or if someone runs into them! They completely destroy people’s cars and assault people 🤦♂️ they need to be stopped nationwide
If it wasnt for laws theyd be dead frfr
Open season for speed bumps then
Had this exact thing happen near me, a lady was just trying to get through so they jumped her and vandalized her car. pathetic
@@nick-ot9ci omg 😱 and none of them will get prosecuted unfortunately 🤦♂️
@@JoseVera20 nope
Its used to be "low I.Q." activites. Now its "low credit score" activities lol. The I.Q. still isn't there but it cost them a 32% APR now too 😂
they are synonymous
People that partake in takeovers are posers. Real car enthusiasts would never.
People who wreak havoc on the community.
They are always in the same cars as well... lol 😂 Dodge really fucked the car community when they released the "kitty kat" cars...
Agreed. These idiots don’t really care about cars or car culture. They never have. They just care about getting as much attention as they can.
They are just criminals engaging in a different crime.
Most the cars are stolen to begin with.
I'm glad they're rolling out more laws regarding this. I'm not someone who likes more regulation, but it's gotten to a point where it has to happen...
I wish part of me moved to ATL sooner. I never got to witness the peak Car Culture here. By the time I got to ATL, Gwinnett County basically had no more sanctioned meets.
I see old videos all the time of the Underground stuff and more "honorable" side of Street Racing and Stunting behind abandoned warehouses. Now it's all just clout nonsense with a bunch of clowns ruining day to day life. This was their comeuppance!
Bladed Angel !!!??!!?
I agree. Other than Z Nationals/anything around Z1 Motorsports, I dread driving anywhere in Georgia, & ESPECIALLY ANYWHERE NEAR ATLANTA.
@@ejsvirtualgaragefacts I live in Fayetteville I get stressed out even driving out to Atlanta just kills it for me
Used to take my oldest to Caffeine and Octane when it was still in Sandy Springs. Haven't been to one since 2020
Exactly Bladed, now you’re witnessing a bunch of cars ruined by clout. Love the content!
The worst thing is that these "people" (I use that term loosely here) think they're hot shit. Pretty sad honestly.
The funny thing is - some of them will come to the track and if you offer to teach them how to get better if they screw up, they will straight up deny that they are bad and curse you out. Lol
Can't get over the Ego they've built up. Ego and Pride are not the same thing and they struggle or simply can't separate or distinguish between the two. Then there are those who are so prideful they refuse the help even though they could benefit from it but rather figure it out on their own, which in and of it's self there is nothing wrong with. It's just hard to watch sometimes and not be overbearing if you're the type who loves or feels they have to help. In those scenarios best to just step back and let em cook. Eventually they'll improve.
But would you say that offline 😂😂😂talk is cheap on TH-cam
@@miguelvega7769 yes.
@@miguelvega7769 you one of these clowns 🤣
What sucks is that lots of people are pushing tracks out of existence. They don't want to hear them, but 2 seconds later they complain about the street crap. Keep the tracks open and let people have fun safety.
Don't blame tracks closing for it.. tracks have been closing for decades
Those who do takeovers never cared about go to a racetrack
@@jimmirogers3485 it wasn't my intent to sound like I'm blaming the tracks. It is absolutely NOT the fault of the track. I was simply mentioning that those (rightfully) complaining will quite often be the same person complaining about the track, when enough complain it eventually leads to the track's closure. This eliminates the safe controlled places that people can have fun with their cars, causing them to resort to taking their shenanigans to the streets.
@@yandhi6029 the vast majority of the time you are correct about that. But when people have nowhere to screw around safely they will eventually start screwing around on the street, making the issue even worse. It's a fucked situation anyway you look at it.
@@jimmirogers3485if you took 2 seconds and Google tracks closing, you'd learn most tracks close from the homeowners in the area getting sick of the noise and working together to get them shut down. Or passing ordances that kill the track. Using a Google product but not using Google is the irony of the decade for 80% of the internet users.
Birmingham, Alabama here: we used to have a really bad problem with the takeovers and street racing but recently they passed new laws that they would begin prosecuting people simply based on social media footage and they’ve almost all but dissolved seemingly overnight.
The problem with most of these takeovers, at least the ones around here, is that no one owned the cars they were using. They’re all stolen so what do they care if they get damaged or seized by the police?
One would also assume that if they have no disregard for a stolen car, they probably could not care less about driving around with a revoked license.
Realistically, most people don’t HAVE a local racetrack. Here in NYC the closest one is 3+ hours away, so there’s takeovers on a weekly basis. Not to mention most takeovers cars are STOLEN. Takeover guys aren’t car guys, they’re criminals who steal cars & got into cars for clout. I made a video on my channel about this, but they’re not going anywhere unfortunately
Peopel who do takeovers where never interested in going to a track in the first place
Living in NYC is a mistake.
And I don't have a million bucks, doesn't mean I get to take over a bank.
Man they don’t even need a track, they need a skid pad or parking lot. Moronic clout chasing to look edgy doesn’t work for your dumb crew if you’re not giving the finger to ‘society’ and the cops. They need this image to feel special.
Wouldn't matter if it was $20 they still wouldn't pay it
I went to a old school car show yesterday and i really loved it. No idiots revving engines, just old people showing old school cars
Me too! And then some newer Mustang drove by and decided to floor it, creating a lot of noise and attention. He wasn’t part of the show, just someone desperate for attention.
In my area it's the opposite actually, it's the old domestic guys revving and doing stupid shit to ruin our cars and coffee meets.....guess because their old they just don't give a f anymore. But I was blown away seeing it coming primarily from them.
theres a show every friday night around my area that a lot of older people go to, but they grew it to the point where theres more younger people showing up. everyone just shows up, parks, talks, and the police (small town) dont care if they do burnouts or pulls while leaving as long as they are back at the speed limit by the stop light up the road a bit. favorite thing to go to weekly
The car show that happens around me have a few old timers spin their tires and let the old engines sing when they leave
Traditional car shows are my favorite way to see cars
$2500-$4000 is a used car, choose wisely young bucks
^^^^Go buy a drift project.
At the $2k area expect some suspension issues or small things like tuneups.
$2.5k to $4k after repairs lmao
@@MZRFaithyou could find some sleepers that don’t need repairs for that ballpark tbh.
my mountain bike is $1500
I have an 1100 hp mustang and I love the car scene. Don’t get me wrong. But these takeovers are the worst things I’ve ever seen in my 35 years of living. Imagine working 14 hours trying to get home and they blocked the highway to do donuts on 676 in Philly, I was pissed
I started going to track on motorcycles several years ago because I wanted less legal risk and an environment I felt more safe in(less risk in regards to traffic, animals, road debris, ect) and I fell in love. I learned a ton and it made me really wake up to risks of everyday life. I used to goof off in traffic all the time with buddies and whatnot for many years prior. So once i started doing track, I quickly retracted myself from things that could legally get me in trouble and carry much longer lasting repercussions for my actions.
Needless to say, just like you said, a lot of guys around me thought I was trying to act like I was better than them because "I went to the track" and was above riding on the streets, which then made them look at me like I was self indulged in myself and "HE OlNy RIdEs TracK".
The major disconnect is that the type of mentality that these kids/young adults have with this behavior is that they just haven't matured and aren't able to think several years down the road at what they are doing today can greatly impact them in later life. (and the attention/clicks for sure)
"Stay in ya lane" is hard to do when takeover kids are blocking my lane
Everyone will have that "OnLy If ThEy CaTcH mE" attitude until Georgia state patrol turns up and puts them in a post
The GSP gets absolutely unhinged for those 100+ MpH pits. 😅
Tryna make a post turns into kissing one real quick.
Then they're a "victim"...
Yea dont they know state police always catches their criminals?
They may not catch u today still doesn’t mean ur safe they will hunt u down and get their fake car enthusiasts soon
GSP don't play 😂😂
$2500-4000 isn't high enough in my opinion.
Same
Should be 5yrs instead of 2 also...
I think it is most people who partake in the takeovers, they’re cars are worth $4k lol probably sell that pos to pay for the ticket 😂
The fines should be 10x that
Just get rid of the fines, suspensions and seizures and give them mandatory jail time instead.
What I hate about North America is that everybody gets punished because of a few idiots.
There are also too many micro managing rules and laws.
Unfortunately in America, there are way more than 'a few idiots'.... and that applies to the general population, and those in government.
And the few idiots get no real repercussions
I don’t think you can bring stolen cars to the track, which is why those takeover kids are arguing against it
Street take overs are the worst thing since stanced cars. 🤷🏽♂️
At least the stance guys couldn’t get out of there driveway to even do some stuff like this
Stanced cars just make a car useless but take overs are ruining everything
@@61936stop the hating bullshit
And donks.
@@brodyhanna7443hating or truth?
as dad would always say... you cant fix stupid.
as a somehow wiser than actions co-worker once said: "Sure you can , just start taking the warning labels off. Stupid will sort itself out real quick!"
I didn't know that your dad was my grandmother. Small world!
I see this phrase on so many facebook comment threads my eyes usually just roll to the back of my head on sight. But for this, it makes too much sense.
A 2 by 4 helps numb stupid
You can't fix the melanin
Update: I'll clarify if I wasn't clear, I was meaning just general daily driving modified cars and being targeted as a result of crackdowns. Even while nothing is going on, just the assumption that were associated with takeover people due to driving a modified car. Sorry if i wasn't clear before.
Seeing Takeovers getting slammed like this is poetic justice lol. I just hope police understand that not every modified car is part of that crowd, and mass-push street cars when we're simply driving to get food.
😂😂😂when you start one shit they going to do all😂😂
Don't be near or involved in a street takeover and you will not lose your car.
@@swagedelicyou shouldn’t have to worry about that when you have a modified car but your waiting for these fuckin awful people doing to stupid donuts in an intersection to go tf away so you can go home.
That’s weird that you would decide to be there at that exact time when there’s a takeover just to get a bite to eat 🫤
Don't worry they're only looking for infinity's chargers and challengers
I had my license suspended for 2 years. I just walked and jogged to work. I was testing new gearbox on my time attack civic, and clocked on police radar +250 on highway, at 3.30am in the morning, on a tuesday. I got leaner sentence due to there being no traffic and I stopped for the officers.
Although this was in Finland! Those takeovers give everyone bad name. They are idiotic. Go to the damn track
The problem is a lot of the takeover guys are not car guys. It’s just thug shit, but in cars lol
I live in the Chicago suburbs and drive a nice Mustang. I will never drive my car to the city, because I know it'd be stollen within a hour, and I would see it later on the news doing donuts in the middle of Western Ave. Street takeovers are the most trashy, low class thing you can do with a car. Even trashier then truck nuts.
Yup, same with me and my 370Z. I'll uber to Rosemont and take the blue line lol.
Of course it’s trashy and low class, look at who is doing it.
Lol Naperville
David, here’s the thing, no one at a street takeover is there to hone their drifting skills, practice sliding, or because they can’t afford a track day. They’re there because they want the attention that breaking the law brings them, breaking the law is “cool”, or at least that’s what they think… that hoon mentality man.
Peopel who do takeovers where never interested in going to a track in the first place
There is a percentage that would go to a track but they are expensive and limited not to mention every track I've seen has a tech inspection that is going to look for certain things and require you to wear a helmet and peaky stuff like that which they don't want to spend there money on but it is a lot of clout chasing and social media fame speaking
@@sqike001ton the ppl that would go to the track if they could afford it would rather go to a secluded location instead of a busy intersection and do their thing. These cats are out there for the clicks, likes and the thrill of breaking the law.
On another note, I fully blame hoonigan for takeovers and takeover mentality. No one was running around race/drift cars with cameras before those dipshits started doing it. At least they were on the same page with the drivers though. The morons saw it and just figured you can run around a bunch of bad drivers and it will be fine. It's not.
@@sqike001tona track wants you to wear a HELMET??? HOW AWFUL IM SO SORRY 😭😭😭😭😭
Breaking news: sales of Hellcats to buyers with a 500 credit score dropped 85%
Truth be told the people that can actually afford Hellcats arent participating in takeovers. A Hellcat at a takeover is 99 percent of the time stolen.
You don't need good credit to buy a Hellcat or any car. Just enough money. You really thought a credit score stopped people from buying cars? Or at least those types that buy those cars to do these things. 🤣
Dude you know the right people you can get a brand new 392 Charger for $500 bucks
Technically you can buy any car for $0 down
Plot twist they’re all stolen no more hellcats available
Squatted trucks and street takeovers are making me miss the clapped out honda days... 😂
Meanwhile in Los Angeles, there is apparently an activist movement to "legalize" takeovers by shutting down an intersection ahead of time and allowing people to freely occupy it for a set amount of time with no interuptions.
I don't know how much traction it has in being a thing but it has the same vibe of letting people get away with $1000 worth of stolen goods.
Isn't the theft law basically entrapment?
I made a video on takeovers a while ago, and I was absolutely flabbergasted how many people in favor of takeovers were hating in the comments. I tried my best to reason with them, but they don't want to be reasoned with. They think they're right no matter how wrong they are. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like they will learn until they seriously hurt themselves, someone else, or get arrested.
People like that are deluded and don't even know it.
I learned a long time ago, those engaging in criminal black subculture aren’t much for thinking. Don’t bother having an opinion in basketball or boxing channels, as you’ll be swarmed by people stating opinions as facts. These are the people that think yelling and threatening violence is just part of common discourse
i'm glad but also worried that police would start labeling every car meet as a takeover. if i go to a car meet i'm bringing a drone and recording so if one person decides to ruin it for everyone, i can just show police "hey it was this guy, this is who you want to have a talk to, everyone else was following the rules".
Nope that’s a good thing
Coming from someone who street races (on empty roads where nobody is in danger), seeing takeovers is what ruins the car scene a lot. As someone from the car community, we dont consider takeover people apart of the car community.
Causing Emergency Vehicles to have to wait is utter BS. I think the charges should be more serious. Down here in S. Florida we also have motorcyclists blowing up I95 at times. The bad part is they panic drivers and cause accidents.
Old school street racing. Go to the meet up spot. Set up the race. Put money in the spot. Go to the race spot. Race. Go back to the meet up spot. Collect money. Bounce. I miss those days.
Those days died about 15-20yrs ago, bud. But I'm right there with ya. Secluded strips of road miles away from anything or anyone, 15-30min MAX at any given location, rendezvous at a gas station and never the doubling back to the same spot twice in a night... Man, takes me back reminiscing the good days lol.
That's just as dumb.
@@superrad1659who says we can’t bring those days back? Backroad street racing can still be a thing!! Just be underground about it
@@DrSpoculus I never said it was the SMARTEST thig I've ever done lol but it was a hell of a lot more innocent and victimless.
@@colestrains1 The wife. THATS who says we cant bring those days back! 🤣🤣
I'm on the boomers with this one, smartphones and their addicted users have ruined the car scene.
They've ruined literally everything.
I know my generation has plenty of boomers that blame societal ills based on how they felt in the morning
Nah I'd say TikTok was the fucking cause. I see teens committing crimes for clout, same type of people
@@frstwhsprs TikTok is very late to the game. Instagram is way worse and it has been around longer. If I see a car with an Instagram sticker on it, I immediately assume the driver suffers from Main Character Syndrome.
@@frstwhsprsInstagram too, it’s not like China made this happen
Street takeovers are done by the usual suspects. We know who they are. People that are car enthusiasts don't do that crap. We know who does.
ethnic folk. Usually of darker complexion. Typically in lowered trucks or chargers.
Not sure how ethnics has to do with it but it shows your insecurities@@ethanstamey
@@ethanstameynot all ethnic folks are into nor support takeovers.
@@ethanstameycmon now the racism isn’t needed.
@@ethanstamey id actually just prefer you just say niggas rather than try to hide the racism. just come out and say
I live next to Sonoma Raceway. They stopped their Wednesday Night Drift event this year, conveniently soon after I put a welded diff in my car SMH, so now people drift on the streets. I don't participate in street drifting, but as far as the argument "go to the track", its not that accessible to everyone.
Takeover kids never got recognition from their parents lmfao
The only thing concerning about these laws is the possibility of innocent people nearby being affected and accused of being a bystander, if I’m in the area with a unique car are the cops going to claim I’m a bystander and will they believe me if I claim I’m not?
Your best bet is to stay as far away from take overs as possible if you make an effort to do that you should be fine. 😊
@midnight347, right, cause they don't get set up while blocking traffic for everyone else making it impossible to leave the area if you're slightly unlucky
The will be fine
Will this law be abused to charge peaceful, non-disruptive car meets with staging a takeover? It's already happening to Whistlindiesel's camera man. He's been on VINwiki talking about it.
Are you talking about Dbags stunting at a legit meet?
On one hand, I hate seeing innocent car guys get abused by the police, but on the other hand, I like watching Whistlindiesel take another fat L.
@@twotailedavengeryou must be driving a squatted truck
What happened to whistling Diesel's cameraman is that The usual suspects would show up to his non-disruptive car meets and do the usuall stupid disruptive takeover s***
@twotailedavenger Unfortunately the 1% of idiots are going to ruin it for the rest of us. That is the way it works. Happening in the motorcycle world too, where the squids are making us all look bad and cops think we're all d-bags.
Who da fuk lights fireworks at a fricken gas station? Wow!
the kind of people that do street takeovers. Gives you a real good feel of the level of intelligence.
@@1mangostickBell Curve levels of intelligence
"It's a culture thing, you don't understand!" 😜🤣
@@1mangostick lol
@@LRM12o8 lol
People think you’re wrong? Nope, please hold your ground! You are a voice for many of us who feel exactly how you feel.
One thing I’m afraid of is a angry cop seeing a nice charger that is getting blocked at a light where these mentally dent ins are at and says hey you are a part of this your shit is fucked
I live in the Bay Area(where sideshows/takeovers originated) and you’ll find them everywhere. They do it in the middle of the bay bridge all the time with no one getting caught.
I was curious and went on a history lesson about its origin found videos from the 80s and 90s of the swinging in intersection, etc, yet people think it's a new phenomenon
@@kssmkkdfit is a new thing. The stuff you speak of was the exception not the rule. I never even heard of it back then it may have been a thing in certain places but it wasn't common like it is now by any means social media made it far far worse.
@@escalanteson7454 write a letter or sumn 😂😂😂
To everyone concerned that they’ll be charged because of one other idiot: that’s the point. The most effective policing strategy is the one in which the community enforces the law on its own. Guaranteed if twenty people get charged because of one, those twenty will make damn sure they never ride with that one person ever again, and that anyone they ride with in the future will behave themselves. Forcing a higher standard through peer pressure is a powerful tool.
It’s been used by the Socialist, err, Democratic Party to push all of their woke ideology.
I think David was more referring to larger meets than just you and your buds chilling. Sometimes that one guy is just someone that heard about the meet and comes by, does their dumb shit and drives off.
More like abuse of power and abuse of justice, but cool ig... 🙄
Despite effectiveness. It's still unjust.
That's not gonna work. It would probably work in a classroom or bootcamp, but punishing the entirety of the community would just make them turn against you. Meaning they would try to make your life even harder as a cop (not giving info, misdirecting, etc.).
Lets not forget that most of these cars being destroyed at these takeovers are stolen. So impounding a car if your the owner or not seems to be a financial burden on the person who got their ride stolen. They really didnt thing that one through did they.
Often they’re reported stolen to dodge the payment. In the other case, I think the owners’ probably dealt with it already & is moving on. These cars can circulate for years, with poor maintenance.
“ClassyCamry”
Bro couldn’t do donuts in an intersection if he wanted to
Doing cool car things at cool car places >> reckless driving, reckless endangerment, felony speeding, fleeing and eluding, evading arrest
Track days❤️
I'm sure this won't be abused to harm the car community at large.
Hoping not. 😭
It will be there gonna use this law for meets I bet and you won't be able to argue it until you goto court and fight it
It already has backfired at least once here in Texas. Two guys were by themselves trying to drift in a closed warehouse / industrial area parking lot and got arrested and cars impounded. They were purposely away from the public during a time where no one was around and got harsh penalties.
@@bentex2kI mean... While it's not a "takeover", that is still illegal to do and falls in line with this new law 🤷
@ThatDudeinBlue This I am worried about as someone who hosts meetups and stuff... with the strict rule of NO REVVING, NO DONUTS, NO WRECKLESS DRIVING.
I'm worried if one person comes and misbehaves and the wrong officer comes, he's on my ass as the organizer.
Street Takeovers can go, but in before police use the "Takeover Laws" for cash days/street racing
You shouldn’t be held liable for street racing? 🤣
@@Treerootz1 I'm just stating, like David did in the video, police being smooth brained and charging you with Takeover charges when it wasn't a Takeover.
@@Treerootz1a street race or a cash days is not the same now personally if no one is around they shouldn't be able to charge u as if u are endangering people when there is no 1 but if ur shutting down a road to where u don't let people through or racing on the highway weaving through traffic then ya ticket them whatever works but if u don't think cops will abuse this law look back to all our other laws they enforce that aren't applicable to the situation
Street racing isn't legal... That argument is irrelevant since both are against the law. Cops don't have to let you go when caught street racing
Simple fix .. they make this thing called a "Drag Strip" you can go ad fast as many times as you want and not get a ticket .. 😮 who knew 😅
Sad the takeovers have made the meets almost impossible. Promoters are afraid to put on meets thinking the police will find a way to associate the two. A few bad apples spoils the pie for all of us car folks.
Well, they are the ones who've allowed it to happen and get out of hand to the point the police have to step in..
A big challenge with any of these laws is simply the ability to effectively hold folks accountable, or create a sufficient enough perception of being held accountable. An unfortunate reality in many places is a reduced public service budget which greatly limits the manning, training and equipping of the law enforcement services. Rules and laws carry little weight if they cannot be effectively enforced.
There is the additional challenge you spoke to which is the activities being conducted simply for the "internet clout". It's attention, that quick dopamine hit from getting "likes" and feeling supported, despite the illegal and irresponsible activities to get it.
i dont think yall understand we dont go about takeovers without structure or planning the meets i am apart of in the Northeast we have a response to police that changes depending on whos hosting and how many people are there, usually everyone leaves the spot once the cops come and nobody gets caught. If we choose to block and keep the show on while police are there then we do and we dont have problems. We have spots cops dont care about and respect our space, theyre are plenty of places other than intersections to have meets. Meets are always at night when no civilians are around, rarely is there injuries or fights in meets with 300+ people. I just want all of you to understand we created our own social events where we can do what we want with our cars and have a good time. This is not some anarchy block takeover, most of us are here to enjoy cars and people
This comment is what I will understand but unfortunately many people here will not understand or don't care cause they see you as a threat to the car culture cause they think illegal street racing is bad for the community even though street racing is part of the community and I see takeovers as non threats except for a few fools but at the end of the day it depends on what behavior of who monitor the meets and illegal stuff is part of it too.
These "takeovers" or "side shows" have gotten so bad these past couple of years that a lot of everyday people associate anyone with a sports cars to be into that type of stuff. I sometimes get weird looks when I come into a gas station even though my car isn't heavily modified. Of course, they might be looking due to another reason, but I live in an area where my local news stations be reporting a side show/takeover every 4-6 weeks it seems like. These types of people are just making the broad car community look bad. Some states are already pushing heavy on electric vehicles and making modifying your car hard, this is just more ammo for them to use.
Street takeovers = pool of Darwin awards
My concern is just as dude in blue said, a bored cop will probably have a huge laugh after ticketing 20 people just hanging out in a parking lot because one jackass laid some rubber as he left
who cares. hanging around in large groups/gangs is for the birds. it is ALWAYS a risk factor for some shoes size iq activities. buy the ticket take the ride
@@SonsOfDeForest gangs? Well, in my city we have car meets that happen weekly, some monthly, some annually. The different groups have participation numbers ranging from 30-300 people. Some groups the average age has got to be at least 65. I wouldn't quite call them a gang. And we are an inclusive city here in riverside California, so we don't charge a participation fee to meet in a parking lot on a Sunday morning. But I'm not worried about our police abusing a law like this but I know for sure our 2 neighboring cities cops are probably itching to get the chance to steal and destroy some cars and fund their next pay raise with a load of "spectator" tickets
these laws will absolutely abused and 100% will be used to break up ANY unofficial car gathering. Unfortunately a whole lotta a-holes ruined it for everyone and this is the price we all pay.
Street racing and takeovers are just so different. Street racing like you said, the point of it is to stay unseen. The only people you want ro see you do it are fellow racers or opponents, and once it's done, you head out. Takeovers are just done to fuck shit up and annoy the shit out of everyone. Talentless idiots that just spin the car in circles and do nothing else. No talent in the driving between two people.
the Atlanta Police dept will ABSOLUTELY take advantage of this law 🤣 they still profile me in my corvettes but use the exhaust law "even though it doesnt apply to me due to my residence which they know by running my tag and license. GSP dont even give a reason until they see the law license in my wallet. Never endorse "ambiguous" laws because it will ALWAY be purposely misunderstood by officers and DA's. While it is needed for the terrible kitty 8mph small circle drivers, it will theoretically stop any car meet they want with zero repercussions to the officers because the now have a vague law for qualified immunity now. No more safe gas station meetups promised before road cruises or going with your quad as a group to events. No foodtruck/block party/possibly no car shows safely, I could go on but basically any moment a officer wants to pull rank for ego moments for not being able to have the cars we do.... well they now have qualified immunity safety for it meaning no repercussions at all if they do misuse the law.
So you're blaming the police instead of the people who made the laws necessary?
That's not what qualified immunity is. Not how it works.
@@DrSpoculus 17 years in law here, I'm quite certain its how QI works. I can explain it if you would like. Also you can tell who actual has nice cars and socialize because no one who does would take it how you have. We all have been in a bad cop ego moment during meetups. If you dont live in Atlanta or review our stats of lawsuits which Quite large.
"Qualified immunity is a type of legal immunity that protects a government official from lawsuits alleging that the official violated a plaintiff's rights, only allowing suits where officials violated a “clearly established” statutory or constitutional right." meaning all they need for protection when acting over the top one night at a normal even is :
They have 10+ cars and are not quiet.... if you have the income for hiring me or another attorney no biggy but if you dont.... you must eat a potential felony or $4000 ticket just for being parked or cruising with 10 or more friends. Basically even a unsanctioned car meetup or car show can qualify for this law and all the officer has to say is they were mistaken if you hire a lawyer to go after their QI.
But do explain your career I can provide my bar license numbers what about you?
@@Rome__king seems he didnt read the "cops relax when they see my law license in my wallet" part 🤣 love the 3 corvettes yellow is such a beautiful color! He wont understand seems he may get "privilege" so he has no fear of the treatment otherwise this wouldnt be surprise that he has no idea how qualified immunity works. This is the person who says all cops arent bad despite every wrongful moment they have an entire team with them assisting 😭. But you only know this if you have nice things or "you know" 🤎 lol.
@@DrSpoculus the law is not the issue its the fact a cop can abuse laws and often do when they are vague. So do you blame the person who will purposely find ways to abuse the law or ..... the law makes making them in good faith that cops wont abuse them since...you know...they are cops of the LAW lmao. you must be 7yrs old
the cops thinkimg a normal meet would be a takeover already happend, one of whistlindiesels guys got arrested because kids with validation syndrome decided to do takeovers around his meets
Shoot, you don't even need to enjoy a track day, just get your foot in the door and do autocross. It's stupid affordable.
Yeah, the one near me is like 20 bucks a session.
30 something dude here. Used to love going to the track for those local stock car races...
It's so long ago now.
Praise them and they keep doing it bc people like it, tell them its not cool and they keep doing it bc they want to prove you wrong, there's no winning against pure unfiltered stupidity
Car meets have gotten so bad and out of hand i can't even go to them with my dad anymore since he has a cdl and doesn't want to risk getting pulled over for just being there and possibly losing his job, it sucks but hey at least we can still go to actual events and shows together.
sema, maybe something manufacturer sponsored might still be in the cards. stay strong homie.
Good takeovers give the car scene a bad look for us that just wanna have a fun time
You make very valid points and I agree with your take completely. Unfortunately, local law enforcement and city government where I live decided that drift racing needed to be outlawed along with street takeovers. Clackamas Country prohibited Pat's Acres Racing Complex from holding drift events, so the track option is no longer an alternative in this part of Oregon.
Wow. That's fked up
Only ever saw one street takeover. Two performance cars revving their engines and burning rubber for about 3 minutes before the police lights got close enough signaling the start. Was supposedly a yearly thing they did in honor of someone who died on that stretch of road, probably street racing. Racers took off quickly, and police started the chase. Only was the two cars though that stopped the road though, not a bunch of kids and cars doing donuts. Didn't quite support it, but they only stayed for about 3 minutes and kept people from going home by the same time... more concerned with the reckless driving and police pursuit that followed, yet I heard nothing about it.
Holy crap... Last time I was here, you were at 140k. Happy for the 1 mil subs brotha.
So over street takeovers
Yoooo are you that one dude who take pics on Speedhunters?
@@frstwhsprsyeah that’s him he’s in Cali a lot so it’s probably 10x worse there.
Tbh I haven’t even gone to meets in like 2+ years and I’m only 26. All the groups in chat would always be talking about some weird non-car related shit about like teenager gay jokes to each other or fetish stuff, like I’m just here for car stuff 🤦🏼♂️
takeovers are the least cool thing you can do
@@EvanCaron and what is cool to you? Goin to a trump rally 😂😂😂
@@DrBoofMar I’m Canadian and i never said anything about politics🧐 drifting is cool…racing is cool.. going in circles surrounded by idiots is low iq moves
@@DrBoofMar your so butthurt that people are pointing out your dumb actions😂😂 get a life and some common sense
At this point I’m pretty sure the GSP is getting like $50K from the government for every Pursuit Charger they destroy in a car chase with a suspect💀
GSP is gonna take full advantage and exploit every last drop 😂
Ohio and Texas also take pride in completely destroying their cruisers in chases...
The only thing that might make a difference if if they take you car on the first offense and you can’t get it back. Then they might deem it not worth losing their car.
I'm all for the new law.
All it does is cause animosity which makes it hard on those who actually do it the correct way.
You are not being to harsh on them at all!
Preach Sir. Blue!
This movement is coming to our streets now, but the issue is the violence towards people who are not part of it, along with damage to the property. We've just had two occasions lately where people were seriously hurt by being hit by a car participating in it. One of them is now paralysed by the incident and it apparently is his friend who hit him.
friendly fire between r3t4rds? ok, great
Bad company leads to bad morals(poor judgement), bad morals leads to bad living! Choose Your friends wisely!! Besides, Clout chasing is f'-ing stupid! I'd rather daily drive a slow boring car and improve my miniscule driving skills on a racing simulator than to be some hot shot who goes viral over something crazy I did at some lame-a$$ 'takeover'! Driving skill and car control is far more practical in my eyes than to impress a bunch a yahoos just itching to see you fail & embarass yourself for a cheap laugh. F#ck the clicks, Give me an old corolla with a manual transmission instead! That to me is way more fun! And I'll have that fun without putting anyone else at risk! 'But it only has 120hp...' IDC, DAMMIT!! Give me the old corolla, and leave me alone!!
Takeovers are stupid and should have never been a thing
Man here in Bham Alabama people have died in wrecks during these. They also find a lot of stolen cars when they bust them. And the races man back 20 years ago you could find races all in the city. Thursday nights were mostly bikes. Saturdays was for vehicles.
Used to be a person only had a few friends putting stupid ideas in their head so they were limited on the dumb ideas they could come up with. Now, with the proliferation of the Internet, the sky is the limit on how many dumb ideas a person gets in their head from millions of other idiots online
This is actually a really good piece of insight a lot of people don't realise on a day to day basis growing up with the internet
I've legit had these clowns say " I can't afford to go to the track" because they mod their cars with eBay parts and clown tires. 😂
Funny part about that is, a test & tune night is what like $20-$25 for unlimited runs, atleast where i’m at in PA. Same with a grassroots drift event what is it $25-$50 to register as a driver?! I could empty my cup holder at the coinstar and afford a track day. Takeover dudes fr dont have two pennies to rub together
@@justinmelton2867 exactly 😂
Peopel who do takeovers where never interested in going to a track in the first place
@@justinmelton2867too busy trying to score some xans and lean with their bumps and joints. Priorities
the real reason is they would get kicked out of any decent place because they cant act right. they broke in iq not dollars
So basically every scat pack and hellcat owner is gonna be a felon. Lol.
Most of them are
@@tttjj111 you’re not wrong. Lol.
No one really “owns” a hellcat or scat pack, the bank does 😂
@@lolcow_president I almost spat my water out at this comment
the usual suspects
Yea I definitely think this law will be abused. Anyone who does cruises on the street will probably be targeted as well. Takeovers are bad and need to be stopped but since it's already illegal to do donuts in intersections I definitely don't think we need more laws.
100% agree with everything you said, but we also need to address Track Accessibility & Write to Local Officials for zoning for automotive track construction.
Laws against the drivers mean and will change nothing. They're already breaking the law and don't care, plus it encourages them to run endangering more innocent people. Make the punishment for being in the crowd really really harsh. $10k fines and 90 days in jail. Not either or, both. Those people are easier to catch and without spectators the drivers won't show up.
These kids in Atlanta don’t care. It’s not the car and they make fast quick money. It’s a new generation.
there's so many of these idiots in Omaha, NE that post or involve themselves in this stuff. Then once a big group here like 1320video says something about it. There they are in the comments agreeing that they don't like it, but yet they're the ones doing it. Btw it's ALWAYS Mopar guys.
You can’t argue with these people on why takeovers are bad… to do something so blatant, they have a ton of issues in their life with decision making… takeovers are just a small portion of their bad habits.
Don't condone endangering other people's lives, but these people have ruined the art of street racing
Not to mention the countless videos and insurance claims from street takeovers where they blocked an intersection, hit YOUR SHIT while doing half-assed donuts, and then run. Hit and run.
Same thing goes for street racing on the high way and motorcyclists
Takeovers are the tumor on the car scene.
Why did you forget to add motorcyclist and street racers racing on highways
@@matts5634 don’t act like the don’t be speeding weaving through traffic exceeding 100 miles per hour I would say that’s a little bit more dangerous
@@matts5634 and breaking mirrors because they made someone couldn’t see them even though they were ones speeding
@@matts5634 racing a road doesn’t require skill slamming the gas pedal down and twisted the throttle doesn’t require skill
@@matts5634 it’s not a skill or professional to race on a highway full of other cars people go to professional School to do it on a track most want to do it professionally and people do illegal drag racing
Being fined for watching a takeover is like being issued a citation for standing there, witnessing a bank robbery.
And I say that as a former cop. It's stupid and insane.
I don’t believe a former cop would lack the foresight to see that the crowd is what makes a takeover happen. Use critical thinking skills instead of thinking like a 14 year old.
@@scottoleson1997agreed. Any takeover spectators are just as guilty as those driving especially in those bigger ones where they gang up on regular drivers trying to get through.
As a cop, that's a terrible analogy. People at the bank aren't ones encouraging the robbers...
you thinks its a good move to hang around and watch a robbery?
David, thanks for speaking up. Show people the way and they may follow. On the one hand, it may change the dynamic at the track, but at the same time, the increased track use could certainly make business more profitable for track owners, which seems like it could lead to good things.
Georgia has some of the most harsh traffic laws. You can get a Super Speeder ticket for just 15mph over in a 45 and you will not be able to beat it. If you are a resident it's like 6 or something points right off the bat on your record. Don't mess around in Georgia.
Georgia has no real courts or justice system… I don’t even like flying over that cesspool
New people at track days are awesome. It's great to see someone transition from "My 900HP Mustang will beat anything" to "Oh wow I'm parked next to an SF90" and eventually "I just got lapped by a Miata," to "I think I can carve a tenth off during the next session." Street takeovers are lame and irresponsible. If this is what it takes to make it stop, I'm all for it. Sadly, I fear that the "it'll never happen to me, f!ck The Man" attitude so common among the children that are involved in these events will limit the law's effectiveness.
lets be honest, the Eunos is playing the metagame with the Elise , G40R, and MR2's . its not even trying to compete with supercars.
90 dollars for a whole day?! man... its about 30 ish € per lap around nordschleife. A SINGLE lap. not the whole day. A singular lap. Without the GP course. You guys in the states have NO clue, how good you have got it with your track days.
Oh, those in the know absolutely know.. cars and fun with cars are incredibly accessible here and well, we're for the most part enjoying that. Its a certain small but incredibly cancerous group that does dumb shit and gives the rest of us a bad name to the general public.
But yeah, no excuse not to pay a lil money to go play and be better, the thing is that's not what they're after. They dont want to be better, they want to brag and get attention for doing illegal shit. Nothing more, nothin less.
That isn’t common at all. I’m in louisiana and we don’t have anything like that. We have a drag strip which is cheap and we have one race track that’s expensive as hell.
@@ChadAV69 yet its still much more than we have. Yes we have the Hockenheim Ring, but there are hardly any "Touristenfahrten". The Lausitzring? pretty much closed apart from the major race events. Oschersleben? Nearly dead.
And youre not allowed to drift on either of them unless its a dedicated drift event every once in a solar eclipse.
also mann soll das wissen dass nordschleife ist n'grosse und bekannte Rennstrecke,ich glaube deutschland brauchst mehr localenstrecke.
@@sepehr-9210 exactly! ganz genau! Wir haben legitim nichts, abgesehen von entweder Assetto Corsa oder halt illegal auf Parkplätzen oder auf den Hauptstraßen um irgendwie Driften zu üben.
We got legit nothing, apart from either Assetto Corsa or just do some sketchy illegal shit on a parking lot or straight up on the main roads to practise drifting.
I went to one car meet, with my 92 JDM Mitsubishi GTO TT AWD...when leaving, the kid at the exit, in full view od the cops, kept screaming at me to 'SEND IT!!'
This was on dirt and gravel and there were other cars and people behind me, there were 9 police SUV's at the exit, and the kid clearly didn't know that AWD cars don't do burnouts.
First and last time I went to a social media meet-up.
Telling someone with an AWD car to do a burnout is just peak idiocracy
They saying they don’t have money for a track day is just a silly excuse they just don’t have the skill to go around a track, and don’t wanna humiliate themselves there they wanna humiliate themselves online and cause problems to normal people and have no self accountability.
In my opinion those laws aren't harsh enough. Most of them probably don't have a driver's license. Fines need to be more personal. Like going to jail in general population. See how many repeat offenders there are after a year in jail or more.