How to bend PETG tubing
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How to bend PETG tubing | JayzTwoCents
• How to bend PETG tubing
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Good Job Jay, Glad you finally went Hard Tube. TIP FOR BENDING A SINGLE TUBE MULTIPLE TIMES WITH TOUGH ANGLES: FOR COMPLICATED BENDS, USE A COAT HANGER (CUT OPENED AND STRAIGHTENED OUT) AND BEND IT TO THE ANGLES AND LENGTHS YOU WANT TO BEND THE PIPE TO, THEN WHEN BENDING YOUR TUBING, USE IT AS A STENCIL/GUIDE - you can use some tape and tape the coat hanger guide to your PETG tubing, and then Bend the PETG at the same points as where you bent your coat hanger guide. (thought of this myself :) :) :) )
Basics for Hard Tubing Bending:
0. for cutting, just get a pipe cutter!
1. heat gun on low heat
2. remember the silicon insert
3. hold tubing 2-6 inches from the gun - depending on how you feel :) and how used to it you are... further away for less experienced benders
4. once it gets bendy in your hands over the gun, take it off and bend it
5. dont keep heating it onces it gets bendy over the gun
6. always just use PETG, the pros outway the cons when compared to acrylic
7. hold the bend for 15-30 seconds after getting the bend you want. (sticking it in cold water after also helps, does not damage the PETG)
8. get a debur tool to file down the ends after you cut and bend
9. Put the RUBBER RING and Fitting End on the tube, before you attach the tube.. DO NOT put the fitting top and rubber ring on the bottom of the fitting and then attach the tube - you will get leaks - the rubber ring will warp.. to prevent rubber ring warping, put it on the tube, stick the tube in the bottom of the fitting, slide the ring down to the bottom fitting, then tighten the top fitting on to the bottom - do that and you will not get a leak!
Note: Coat Hanger Guide is really helpful when doing 3 or more bends on a single tubing... but even better for 2 bends on a single tubing to ensure proper measurements and angles.
that's a very smart idea
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he ain't wrong and hey nice type kiddo
Awesome idea using the coat hanger, gonna try that out.
Just rewatched this one - solved the main problem I've been having.
I was focusing the heating on the inside of the curve too much, figuring it's a tighter bend, so... no. Stretching the outside of the curve is equally important.
It's made a huge difference.
Thank you for not being like some other tech youtubers. Some of them would have made this video into 4 parts *cough*Linus*cough*
+Conquest not a tutorial. That goes on LTT
+Jamal Tillett First on Vessel.
+Jamal Tillett But we need that Money So we can save ourselves from the Gecko!
+Jamal Tillett linus is a jew, jay is just a jay
+Jamal Tillett Can't blame a dude for making money :)
I started my first hardline build last night. I have to say the most challenging part has been finding the best place to run the lines. I had one perfect run then realized It wouldnt work once my top rad was installed. I love the look but damn it's been a challenge. I just hope i have enough tube. I gave up all together on including the vrm block. My hats off to you sir you make it look easy.
I skip the middle man and use a hose to fill up the case like an aquarium. Excellent fps.
LMAO, this is one of the most underrated comments. Awesome man :)
I don't have good water so I use Vodka
Shinochaos life of Boris did this. He even replaced the reservoir with a vodka bottle
Why use a case when you can use a freezer
Fish Per Second?
I watched this with interest. I'm planning my first ever watercooled build. For better or worse I'm going straight to a hardline build using PETG. I've already bought twice as much tubing as I think I'll need. Very interesting to see what happens when you get it wrong, too cool, too hot, not heating enough of the tube etc. Keep up the good work Jayz, man.
For the record, Jay's videos now are overclocked @ 0.5K likes per hour, we will see if we can push it some more 😂
Might be original but not funny, as I'm sure was the intent.
10ghz overclocked at 20v. gg
Hey Jay! Awesome vid again. Just wondering, which motherboard is that? Am I seeing 6 ram slots?
It's an X58 Sabertooth. X58 was a triple channel chipset
+JayzTwoCents thanks for the reply! Btw your nismo rocks!!!
+JayzTwoCents this was only a tutorial about how NOT to bend acrylic tubing xD hahah. i do my bending on eye as well never done it with any measurements so yeah.. Nice setup you have there. How about a Desktop Desk computer? build one in the desk and cover it with a window with some ledstrips arround it?
X58 Sabertooth for life!!!
+Ali-A go back to your console, peasant...
they should make the silicone insert change colour due to heat and calibrated to tell you when its hot enough by the colour
+HarryIII not necessary at all, just try to bend some.. once you know how to feel it, its like riding a bicycle, you never forget that sweet spot
+BackinBlack i spose
HarryIII
yup, and dont be scared to try like most people are.. look for my original post in this thread for even more helpful tips so you don't waste more tubing to get the bends you want and to avoid leaks :) just go for it, its not hard, and it will look awesome, trust me :)
In my original post in this video, i give a lot of tips to get the best bends and to make sure you don't get leaks by attaching the tubes to the fittings incorrectly .
follow my Tips and Basics..and your in good hands - you dont get bad bends, and you wont get leaks
BackinBlack thanks mate. i myself am not worried about experimenting. looking to do a build with a custom waterloop in the future.
HarryIII
go for it :) you will be very happy in the end, and use PETG.
Awesome vid again Jay! Doesn't matter if it's longer than usual, I wouldn't mind it being longer, honestly. The more detail you go into, including mistakes, etc. the more us viewers absorb.
"Very very hot things are hot."
-Jay
Sounds kinda like DJP lol
Perfect timing. I got everything I need for my PETG upgrade and will be tearing my soft tubing loop apart after Christmas. Thanks for mentioning the copper tube cutter! I'm in the HVAC industry and thought that my Copper Tube cutter might work but never tried it because I leave my tools at work. Now I won't have to use the annoying Monsoon saw I've been practicing with.
Awesome old shool x58 stuff!
in 5 years this comment got 5 likes, nice
This is a great build, Jay those are some good complex bends! Going through watching your old stuff lol
Nice video Jay, i appreciate showing what not to do, however i feel it would have been nice to see one unedited good bend from start to finish.
thanks for all your tutorials and motivation on watercooling.
i finaly finished my custom loop with PETG tubing.
its cooling an A10 7850k stable on 4.7 ghz with a cache ratio at 2.1 ghz and a r9 380 overclocked 9%
btw my cpu score in passmark bench jumped from 5000 to 7000 points.
you are awesome
+Markus Goralczyk (Mark) here are some pics:
www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/760292-mosfet-watercooling-on-Crossblade-Ranger/page2
Jay this was more logical then you'd think. Epic tutorial! And as always a good laugh too! ;-)
This video is almost 3 years old (as of June 2018) but it's still valuable. Jayz always give good explanations and guidelines. Many thanks Jayz!
you sir are a god at water cooled PC's
Cheers Jay - going to do some PETG tube bending tomorrow and change my pc from soft tube to hard line, thanks for the tips and tricks much appreciated.
That was beyond awesome!!!
Really appreciate the tutorial, good to know what tools you use, and whats works best. Its also good to know that you don't have to go buy really expensive tools to make such a good looking build. One thing I'd ask if you do this again, is a little more guidance on the complex bends (multiple bends)...even if I'm just watching you for ten minutes (ten is not a magical number, insert X minutes for however long it takes) heating, and bending to get a 90 that then 90s in a different direction. It would be helpful to see how a pro does it...
I really wish I had the money to so something like this.
+Joseph Glenn me to.
Yeah don't we all XD
same man but I cant even work because I'm not old enough im 15 right now
+Joegaming there are jobs u can have at 15 y/o (im 14 y/o and i also have a job, paper rounds)
Gerben van Zessen yea we don't actually have any local newspaper services you either go to a store with them in the front or go online
Great video Jay, I'm about to assemble the stuff for my first custom loop, hopefully in january(man its expensive to do a custom loop!) all of your tips and tricks really gave me the courage to try it out!
Good video Jay, love your tuts lol ;)
Great tutorial, thanks! Starting to feel more confident about hard lines! What I'm curious about now is how you put the end of the tube in a clamp and what secures the tube in the clamp? I guess there are o-rings in there and such. More info needed in my research. Thanks!
_”I don’t measure or use bending tools, I just eyeball and freehand everything”_
Me, an obsessive perfectionist: _shudders_
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I was wondering if you know a good way to clean a radiator? Maybe you can do a video on a proper way to clean the dust out of a radiator (including AIOs) as well as other maintenance tips on water cooled PCs that have been operating for 8+ months.
+HUGSaLOT Valkyrie do you mean getting the dust out of all the fins?
+HUGSaLOT Valkyrie maybe try cutting down the end of an q-tip (with plastic stem) and dip it in some rubbing alcohol.. then clean in the fins... otherwise pipe cleaners (like the kind you use in kindergarten) should fit... just dip them in some rubbing alcohol again and go for it
+HUGSaLOT Valkyrie - Soft brush, vacuum cleaner, and a can of compressed air if you need it.
+9ff70f96 i have a Enermax LIQTECH 240, and it's radiator is very dense, a brush or a Qtip couldn't get inside the fins very well. I just did what Jay discribed in one of his past videos where I just rinsed it under the kitchen faucet that has a strong spray setting.. and let it dry with a house fan blowing on it
@@@MsHUGSaLOT
They sell a vacuum cleaner attachment now made from fiber optic filaments called the Dust Daddy, I think. It's made to fit into very tiny crevices and to vacuum things too fragile to dust by hand. It's one of those sold on TV ads. They show using it to clean the fans and motherboard, so it should be able to clean inside your radiator fins easily.
I don't know what it is, but there is something about filling loops that looks sooo awesome! Especially with your great quality cameras and filming.
I hope that case is not running UV lighting.
from what i heard PETG does not like UV where acrylic does doesnt care.
+IIGrayfoxII not true
+JayzTwoCents elaborate...
+JayzTwoCents Tell him Like A Boss!! ;)
+IIGrayfoxII PETG by default is more sensitive to UV weathering when compared to acrylic. However, additives can be added to PETG to make it more UV resistant. I can't find any information on whether popular brands like Monsoon or Primochill add that to their PETG kits though, but I would assume they do since they sell UV reactive tubing.
+IIGrayfoxII how about UV in the reservoir? with PETG tubing for the loop?
I'm going to be building my first water cooled PC in the next few months and will be using acrylic tubing (PETG seems to be difficult to find in the UK) hopefully, by following your guides illness successful and if so, ill try and send you some pics of it so I can try and improve it in the future :)
Can you do a video about copper tubes ?
They are the dumbest idea and for them you need a bender
Some Kid Plays CS:GO What!? They are awesome! I know, they're expensive and bending them is a pain in the ass but isn't it cool just to have your fluid flowing through genuine copper pipes, that you can then powder code ?
+Sonic2000xray Copper conducts heat and would radiate it back in to the case. Just painting PETG copper/brass color would probably be better, you could make a steampunk PC.
And siding with the replies- you also have to worry about different metals contacting the fluid
+Sonic2000xray - What would you need to know? Just cut and bend them as you desire similar to any hardline setup.
This helped me! I'm seriously considering hard line tubing my next build thanks to you and Paul. I'll start grabbing my tools now.
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I know this is a bit late but bit of sandpaper and a torch (or heat gun) will work really well for cleaning up the ends of PETG. Round off the end then re-melt it slightly until it gets smooth (sniny) again. Should work really well (I have never used PETG with my watercooling builds, it was not offered then, but I have worked with plastics for other purposes and it works ok-ish, but not optically perfect.)
Thanks Jayz! Your Awesome ^_^
FYI: I have had some pretty good results when it comes to bending a 45, 90, or whatever other degree bends at the ends of PETG tubes by immersing these sections in boiling water. This method tends to more uniformly warm the sections of pipe, not to mention more quickly as well. You do want to trial this method ahead of time to get a good idea as what the ideal temperature is for your particular brand/manufacture PETG tube. Specs are often hard to come by, and often don't mention the pliability temperature. In my opinion this is most useful because you can keep the water at a very specific temperature, as opposed to a heat gun...which tend to fluctuate temperature wildly on their on/off cycles; a crappy heat gun will make this even worse. This ain't the be-all-end-all method, as somebody proficient with a heat gun will likely have perfect results most of the time. It is, however, a method to consider for certain bends/applications. *NOTE* make sure the pan/water you are boiling is super-duper clean...and make sure the girlfriend, wife, mother-in-law is not home when you do this.
Nice Tips! see it in 2019
2020
Very cool Jay, hardline tubing looks like a lot of work, but I have a great deal of respect for those patient enough to pull it off! Interesting that you do all your bends freehand!
i got 12ft of petg waiting on a new case to be used.I use the dame cheap heat gun and its already given me a nice scar.
Eray Icoz nah it was hot bro.
+Grey Roots (Thundernugs) honestly, why would you ever touch the top while its hot???
BackinBlack i didn't do it on purpose , it got knocked off my worktable on to my leg,(which is why jay suggested the one with the base) as far as your second question I wouldn't go around insulting people if your ass cant figure out how to make some money. have a good day now!
Grey Roots
just use it on the floor... who said my ass can't make money? my desktops cost 5000$ + each...
BackinBlack use a heat gun on carpet? no . yeah i made an assumption just like you did. and congrats on the killer rigs. may your temps be low and your fps high....
i have no intention of ever doing this but this was still a fantastic tutorial, showing all the mistakes a newbie could make, emphasising technique and safety tips as well :)
lmao i bent my acrilic tubes with play sand as insert and it worked perfectly
widt width that’s called “mandrel” bent tubing. Lots of tubing and piping is done this way. Quality exhaust systems like Borla for example.
This is by far the best video I've found in the subject. Great work Jay.
That was some awesome liquid cooling porn there, Jay. Nice work :D
Thanks for all the information Jay! I'll be doing my first water-cooled rig in February, so I'll keep these tips in mind when I start bending!
WOW I am quick & it's the 1st time that's a compliment. ;) Don't get mad Jay I know u hate these comments. BIG FAN
+Soumya Acharya These comments dont bug us, its the "first" that does.
***** I dodged a bullet there.
I love XSPC, I have never used alphacool but i have received some XSPC rads in the mail today and they had literally no flux or anything else in there.
love ur tutorials been watching them for 1 yr now ur a good teacher as I'm 70 yrs old and build my own computers
any 2019 bois here?
Yep
yes
I've done my own hardline set up with petg already but in this video I've learnt a few things I didn't do when I assembled mine.
The amount of sexual cues are too damn high
Thinking of trying this for the first time. Thanks for the tutorial. How hot to the touch does the petg get when it's heated to the correct temp? I was surprised to see you heating it bare handed and then seeming to touch the heated part of the tubing fairly quickly after removing it from the heat. Thanks!
what was that worm looking thing he put in the tube so that they bend properly
Maisur he called it a silicon tube
Watching this in 2020. Thank you for continuing to produce great content and sharing your knowledge and expertise.
... And I know when when that HARDLINE BEND!... it can only mean one thing. Jay you, you, you, you-YOOOooOOooo HARDLINE BEND!
No stfu rlly drake
hellow jay its greate to learn more from you... thank for your teaching as your skill..
i whant also to learn that. but here in the phillipines i dont know where to find tools for me to try it.. thank you i look forward for more helpfull video you have..
17:39 pure porn
It makes me feel all fuzzy inside.
3 months late Jay. Though thanks for the final post. I got lucky and managed to not encounter any of these problems on my first build with hardline. Though I had mandrels from Monsoon. They are great for one off 90 degree bends but some stuff still needed to be by hand.
You don't need an insert as much, look at neon tube benders, they seal the tube at one end then blow in to create pressure inside it, to stop it from collapsing, sure it's massively harder but you can create more complex shapes.
love all your content. i spend more time watching your videos than I do using the computer I learned how to build from watching your stuff over the years.. haha
Awesome video! I just learnt how hard lining works. I was thinking about it for a moment but I need new fittings for everything, tunes, bending tools etc. It'll break the bank unfortunately.
Jay is just a legend. Plain and simple...
so the key is to be patient and not force it like most people do. Enjoy the experience don't rush it. got it, thanks jay
2020 and content in the video is still relevant. good stuff jay!
This is correct. PETG is easier to work with but the melting point for warm/hot water is lower. When the coolant gets hoter as 70 Deg Cel. your tubes can start deforming. And your CPU/GPU can go to 70 or higher with easy when the pump dies
I agree this might not be one of the best tutorials out there, but you can't deny how entertaining this video was :) thanks jay~
That was a really valuable piece of craftsmanship education.
Jay I'm sure you have much more experience at this sort of thing. But have you ever tried using a jig for your bends? Something to provide a perfect angle. Just curious and wondering about your feedback. Thanks for the channel.
This is a really useful video. Thanks for making it. I wonder, with FLIR cameras being cheap and easy to hook up, have you ever filmed/had someone film you doing some bending and then seeing if your intuition about temperatures and when to bend correlates with temperatures and maybe it would make more insights apparent as well as being really cool to watch :D
Hi Jay :) Thank you for spending your time making films for youtube. I really enjoy your films and hope you'll continue to produce for a good while longer! I love your humor and your good smile. Thank you for your honesty reviews and always getting into the details! Good luck with your new skunkwork color. I hope the best for you and your family! Have a great new years friend :)
Probs the most interesting/entertaining techtubercontent as always
I am new to the water cooling thing, currently just using a closed loop setup on my PC. My question is, why hasn't anyone done a copper tubing build for an open loop water cooler? You can get copper in a number of sizes for fairly cheap from Lowes/Menard's and have a solid system. The done side is that it wouldn't be as cool looking, since it wouldn't be see through. It just seems odd that no one has built one...that I can find online anyway. It just seams like it would also help with heat dissipation too, compared to other materials.
was hoping more video of you bending tubes for the system but this is a great help all the same thanks for the video
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That is just, gorgeous. Thank you for the informational and beautiful showcase afterwards Jay
Thanks for the vid Jay. I love your custom water cooling work.
Great video. Have built many systems in my lifetime but never a water cooled one. I've watched a couple of your videos now with my oldest and in the near future this is something he is already hinting at. Keep up the great videos )
hehe the first watercooling i made was for an intel celeron 300 mhz slot 1 tyoe, way back in the 90's, it was not as fancy as this, made from a 15 mm aluminium block drilled out, and a old radiator from a car heater + a plastic impeller pump and some rubber hoses. if i don't remember wrong the processor manage a little over 700mhz!! blistering speed for the time' and not that stable, the biggest processor intel made was the pentium 450 and it was expensive' most of the overclocking started with this processor' and often a Abit motherboard that made it possible to overclock the fsb.
Hi Jay, thanks a lot for this video. I'm about to do my first hardline watercooled Pc and this guide helped me a lot. You are an excellent teacher, love your videos and I hope you'll keep up the amazing work!
So how did it go?
This Tutorial was Amazing. Definitely learned alot. Im curious tho. How was the system drained? (I am a noob at understanding this stuff) And Where is the Fill port on this build. You were Filling from the top, how is that possible. Forgive me for my noobness. Excellent vid again. as always.
So I know I'm not the first to ask this question however have you ever tried using copper pipe like what you buy at the hardware store for a hard line build? Because I've go a few ideas that might look awesome but I'm not sure if it's going to be a bad idea or not.
great loop,looks awesome with the hard tubing,you only need like 4m of tubing just as 1st practice with heating and bending,after you can go in your rig imo
Hey jay, can you please show us how to stress test, I'm a new PC enthusiast wanting to see how I do, also water cooling soon!! Thanks
Awesome video thanks. I have been put off going the water cool option for a while but the more video's I watch of yours I am pretty much convinced I should give it a go.
Keep up the good work man
You should get Barnacules to 3D Print a base/stand for your heat gun to make it more stable.
Thanks to this video I did my very first attempt at bending PETG and made a perfect 90! Super stoked!
I see you used a normal compression fitting coming out from the rad. My question is how much weight can be pulling down from the fitting since the 2nd tube is pretty long and I´m assuming that when filled that is has some weight to it??? Would it not be better to use a 90º fitting so it can carry some of the weight???
Great vid! Can you do a tutorial how to service a copper cpu/gpu blocks? specifically how to get rid of the stains.
I run CNC rotary draw mandrel benders for a profession I make exhausts for big rigs and automotive industry if you slowly pull the mandrel out as u bend it will look better at the point of tangency
so far you did great but hey all you did just show how not to bend what about how to bend it right and make it good bend? i am about to do my first water cooler pc want some idea on fittings what should i get and link to get good fittings?
This video was great. It thought me to never do hardline tubing. I was actually considering it at one point.
Looks badass jay! I learned a lot from this, you did a good job at explaining it. I would like to get into liquid cooling in the future, as of now i air cool my PC, but a dope water cooling loop is something id love to do one day. Thank you!
I feel like working with people like you (Linus, Luke, HardwareCanuks, etc) would be a blast, granted it could be stressful at times as with any sort of job, but it would be a blast
If your trying to champher the od of the tubing try looking at MSC.com. They are a machinst tooling supply company. Look for a id - od champher tool, it will not chatter if you go this route. Just FYI
Hey Jay, is there any significant difference in hard tube versus soft tube in ability to transfer heat to the radiator. PETG versus Acrylic? I'm wondering if maybe there is some thermal leakage from block to radiator that's more significant from one material to another. Thanks!
For all that wonder about the song at 16:02 its Turn My Way - Warner Chappell Productions.... but sadly they dont do instrumentals.
Great information Jay, I'll keep this video in mind for when and if I give hard tubing a go at some point. Quick question though, what motherboard is that? I've never known a mobo to have 6 DIMM slots, usually it's 4 or 8 for dual and quad channel. Is this tri channel then? I'm guessing it's a server board or a really old Intel consumer board. .
Hey Jay! Thanks for these videos. You really have given me the confidence to attempt this on my system. Keep up the fantastic content!
Awesome video like always Jay. Can you tell me what case that is. I've been looking for a nice white case and that looks exactly like what I've been searching for.