I appreciate this type of content! I am stuck with a lower paying job after covid. The company terminated many of us to make up their losses for being shut down. My eyesight has always been poor, one sighted eye and several eye surgeries so driving in the larger cities is not an option for me. Needless to say, I am on a really low budget. Finding good deals online keeps me going! This is exactly the price, performance range I am looking for!
@@BeefJerky4104 Yea they do, this platform doesn't have native USB 3. Often it's a chip from VIA. Sometimes the implementation is flaky, you can just use a PCIe USB 3 controller card though.
Won a open box one of these on ebay for $40 shipped, also scored a X5650 for $1 (yes, $1) Thanks Brian for making content that holds up even months or years later. Love the Xeon content, much love to you
Thank you, Bryan. For the first time in my life, I just activated my copy of Windows 10 Pro to a genuine version using your coupon code. Never used a genuine version of Windows 10 since it was released. I feel powerful and unstoppable.
@@salsaproductions6286 the thing is, they're selling oem volume license which isn't exactly a legal thing to do so it's not actually genuine in that sense.
@@jasonchan5504 I've seen evidence of talk with a microsoft rep, they consider the key valid if it's an OEM key. Was the reselling of the key legal? Depends on the country, for mine it's absolutely allowed.
Hey Bryan. Thanks for this old vid - pretty on target for me right now.... I've just bought this board to do my first build. I'll be using some parts from a 2015 video render machine... power, X5680, Titan x, 16GB ddr3 ram. Looks like I'll need a big old fan in there as well!
Thank you Brian! I live in a developing country and the local tech tubers here all want to feature the big brands. Its great to see stuff from a more competent tech guy showcasing affordable with good price to performance products from non mainstream brands. Also, got a snowman because you recommended it. Definitely one of the best PC part purchases ive ever made.
Picked up a whole bunch of those "HP" model RX 460's that were actually MSI brand, but used in HP OEMs. I've been building cheap computers with them all year for people, pairing it with the i3-9100F. With local pricing, I can build 9100F/16GB/RX460/256GB NVME builds for around $300 USD. Makes a very good basic gaming PC, or home office PC. i3-9100F Gigabyte H310 S2P 16GB(8GBx2) G.Skill Aegis DDR4-2400 256GB Inland NVMe M.2 SSD RX 460 2GB 430w 80+ PSU Coolermaster N200 Mini-Tower Case ------------------------------------------------------------------- $285ish USD
I used x58 platform for like 5 years. Mainly intel xeon w3690 (6c/12t) with 960 and gtx 1070ti. It served me well but i came to the point where i had to switch and build a new computer (ryzen5 3600) because of following reasons. 1. Bottlneck 2. Slow ram speeds 3. Electicity bill 4. No upgrade paths. I will suggest these x58 builds only if you have like dirt cheap budget to spend on.
Exactly, they're great if you want a nice budget build but have no path for upgrades so you get what you get. If you're talking about the W3690 and X5690s, those CPUs are like 80 bucks still so you may as well get a used B350 for 50 bucks and used Ryzen 1600 for 100 and go from there.
I built a ryzen 3600 computer too! I'm afraid it'll be hard to get our hands on old ryzen 7 or 9's in the future as everyone seems to have that path in mind, haha
I can only afford low-mid setups with the job I have, this channel is so much helpful to me, specially getting that bang for buck cheap'o peripherals.. I'm glad I subscribed to this, since everyone can't afford the high end, I just want to game on a decent setup with an affordable price... very good work..
I built two Xeon machines based on this board back during Christmas and sold them in less than 48 hours. Definitely still a good choice for 1080p gaming.
a great portion of the cost goes to the X58 chipset and on board VRM, the rest are usually within the "cents" range. These mobos cut cost by using recycled X58 chipsets from fried board and lower quality VRM. Or else, even in 2021, producing a new X58 mobo will still cost you as much as the cheapest B550 mobo.
Was just talking about this yesterday, my bud invested another $200 in Xeon memory and more into his Xeon army. Though that's a server use case for him, was wondering about how gaming use case went. Perfect timing to contemplate.
I've been wondering how some of these Chinese motherboards are from Ali Express and I'm so glad that you've covered them along with recommending them. I may have to dabble with some of them with some future builds for myself first before offering these to clients for budget builds. Thank you for all that you do!
Normally I would be interested in something like this, but I've been able to pick up Dell Precision T3500's so cheap (around $75 US). I still might pick one up for a green themed sale.
Hi Brian :) I’ve been watching a lot of your videos and I wanted to try to build my very first PC with used parts here in the Philippines. On hand, I have an old i5-3470, 4gb RAM, and a 500gb HDD. Using Facebook Marketplace I found out that the parts here are scarce, since a lot of people are like wild animals hunting for them used pc parts and are fast at transacting with the seller. Luckily I found another 4gb RAM for 10$, (I’ll just change to USD so everyone can understand) a Deepcool bronze 500w for 30$, (it was really clean, almost brand new) and the best deal I found with the help from a friend was an RX 570 for 80$. I also got a Coolermaster Hyper 212 LED for 13$. I bought an ASUS PH61-M for 40$ from Shopee, (They said it was used, but it was really clean and almost brand new, Shopee is like Aliexpress) and the case I got from a local store for 13$. The pc is working fine now, overall expenses were about 200$ and I’m really happy with the result. Thank you Brian for giving me the inspiration to build a pc using only used parts! Much love from the Philippines!!
@@valuehunter5544 in his case a 3770 will probly run him 60% of the entire cost of his pc asumeing he could find it. But if he can its basicly on Par with a ryzen 3400g and should hold off most esports games
I was tempted in the past Bryan, ideally a dual CPU board (for an actual budget server) however two thing ultimately put me off, hard to find a supported HSF and more importantly limited amount of RAM slots. In the end I took my first step into the server world with a HP Blade. Actually I made my own TH-cam video on that!
@@kosh2501 if the order comes from China, usually 3-4 weeks. I try to find warehouses from Spain whenever possible (I'm portuguese), these usually get to me in just a few days.
This channel and others like it like PhilsComputerLab are the antidote to Linus tech tips which shows nothing but hardware that only rich people can afford and almost never has anything that has prices that are affordable. So thank you to Tech YES City and PhilsComputerLab :D
No question the SNOWMAN with dual 120mm fan and 6 pipes is a BEAST of a CPU cooler and for the money (~US$ 32), can easily handle a TDP of ~160W. It is an excellent product for budget over-clockers. It handles the E5-1660 and 1650V2 overclocked to 4.1 and 4.3 GHz, resp., with aplomb. Also, it keeps my 12 core E5-2678V3 running VERY cool, even with a turbo-unlocked all core of between 3.2 to 3.3GHz. On all Chinese motherboards, to include the well-built HZ deluxe X79, I play it safe and use at least an 80mm fan on the the VRM heatsink. PS: Stepping up to the E5-1680v2 (OC'd to 4.4Ghz on a P9X79Pro) I am using the PCCooler GI-D66A (~US$70), with a TDP of 230W. I am using an open air vertical test bench in permanent configuration for this particular daily driver. To include two 90mm Blue fans (place above and neatly mounted with tie wraps to the handle of the test bench) on the VRM heatsink and RAM slots and one side-mounted 120mm RGB running across the GPU and lower area under the CPU cooler. Of course, I do not have young children or pets in the house, so I can live with the open air system...looks cool on my desk top too! Also, I like the ease of de-dusting the open air design...a quick clean every two weeks with a cheap electric blower and voila.
On Oct 2020 i upgrade from my Xeon W3690 to Ryzen 7 3800X just because my xeon lack AVX needed in some new game title now... but still it going live on with my RX 470D for older title for now. Long live X58 user out there...
I have this board brand x58, except mine has 3 ram slots supporting triple channel. It also has a fan for the NB chip heatsink that came with it. I use a CPU heatsink similar to yours with a fan on each side directed towards the rear of the case with a case fan blowing outward and the air flow across the VRM stays fairy cool. With the x5670 I use in it, the system never gets overly hot, it's well within safe range. This is proof systems use the GPU more for games and that's the key. My i5 6500 z170 board doesn't do any better than the x58 will with the same GPU. Only real difference is various options like for m.2 and bus speeds. Don't need to spend tons of cash to play games at a decent frame rate.
I just got a Precision T3500 with an X58 board, a Xeon W3565 on an eBay auction for 56£ (unfortunately, with shipping and taxes to Portugal it came up to 86£), but nonetheless I got an amazing beast with 12GB DDR3 RAM for 90£ (100€)! Couldn't be happier.
Shiping price for my country goes from 39-142 bucks so this is not good for me. But this is very good gide line, great video i always love x58 + xeon + ecc combo videos.
How would this compare to an X79 combo? I’ve seen a few cpu, mb, ram combos around that $100 price point. And some of those Ali express mobos have m.2 slots. I find it hard to recommend x58 in 2021 unless you already have a working mobo.
AYO techyes city recommending koss ksc75s, just saying that if you're not satisfied with the onboard audio, apple made a dongle (usb c to 3.5mm) which is very clean very good sounding (upgrade over any onboard audio btw and I use it myself), also don't forget to put yaxi pads on them to make them even better, or you can cop a kph30i/porta pro for the warmer sound. Either one you cop, it will be good, and also, thank you for informing non audio enthusiast about koss, you're doing good stuff with that
Still have my x5670 with the Gigabyte x58A-UD3R. Great little CPU, pushes 4 GHz on all 6 cores sustained. Only downside is that it does not support AVX instructions which many software now requires.
Cool! I really do have a soft spot for X58, nonetheless I think that depending on your budget and local market it would be a little more convenient to either buy a decommissioned Dell T3500 or HP Z400 (or even only the MB) if you really want an X58 machine or pull the trigger and make the jump directly towards X99, as the cheapest E5-2620v3 kits including a decent quad channel capable and actively cooled VRM MB and 16 GB of RAM can be acquired from AliExpress for around $150 USD and offer a pretty interesting upgrade path even today. X79 has the disadvantage that budget Chinese boards are limited because of the use of dual channel memory only (instead of native quad channel) and that the upgrade path is limited to only the 6c CPUs due to their weak VRM cooling solution. Best regards!
I think I would use a top blower cpu cooler to solve vrm and nb temperatures. This should do the job without adding strange additional fan configurations
I like your vision about differences in incomes of the people around the world. I wish the best for you and your people. By the way good information.!!
These xeons are a great value especially for countries that have low minimum wages. Thanks Bryan for bringing up the minimum wage part since it really is a big part of the xeon vs "brand new value thing" argument. Also have noticed you have become a little skinny (ever since the $400 gaming pc video). You all right man? Nice video as always btw!
I would love to see a video about shipping PCs with the snowman mounted. From my experience I had problems with faulty motherboards and scratches in the side panel of cheap cases after shipping.
Great video! I’d LOVE to see a video on these Chinese dual socket boards. Maybe some budget plastic tube water cooling? Take care! Much love from Texas.
I got a spare server motherboard for Dell m610 blades for cheap, it has dual CPU sockets, I am trying to hack the power supply to feed the 12V rails, as this board was designed for a rack plug, not the standard molex connector. Hunting for other dual Xeon sockets motherboards, if you know some...
Why still X58 when there are similar X79 and X99 platforms? I know you personally like them. Maybe a comparison video for theye platforms for these Aliexpress boards?
this is my thought as well, a cheap x58 board and ddr3 ecc is like the same average price as a cheap x79 board. X99 is kinda pushed out of the super-low budget by needing ddr4 tho.
Best video ever, you have helped me built my own pc, and now im really good at it, now im living my dream being a pc builder/fixer for a living❤️❤️ Keep up the good work
Congratulations on your good work with these older platforms! Just out of curiosity.... Are the Aerocool XPredator or GT-S Full tower cases still available in Australia? I've been looking for them for some time. They're very difficult to find in good shape here in Brazil. I like full tower cases from the early 2010's. I thought that maybe they could still be available in Australia since I saw many Predator reviews from Australian channels.
I think the X79 systems are a better deal. They have high frequency 4-core 8-thread CPUs for around $25 like the e5-1620 v2 that should outperform these X58 CPUs at about the same price. The 6-core e5-1650 v2 is also quite good, but will cost another $50 or so.
I bought the "HUANANZHI X99 8M F X99" - Motherboard with Intel XEON E5 2620 V3 with 2 * 8G DDR4 NON-ECC memory combo kit set for 146 USD (120 euros) on AliExpress and I'm so satisfied!
if it can make the cpu on turbo or oc state, then it probably a decent motherboard because some cheapest mb with lowest chipset and questionable vrm often lock the option to oc or make the cpu can't use boost frequency (or higher multiplier) edit : that snowman cooler was the best for it's price, its ran silent while keeping high performance and low price, I use one of it too btw :), just make sure to bend the hook to straighten it a bit because mine came at ridicoulus angle and need some work to use.
Where did you get so much ECC ram for so cheap? I'm typically finding most sellers are selling each 8gb dim for 20$ CAD. Similar value to AUD I believe
I've got a couple of these boards and a handful of i7 9xx chips. Tested with RX 480 8G and a GTX 1070. Was pleasantly surprised how the gpus were still the bottleneck in a handful of games tested. Though the chips did turbo WAYYYY higher than spec. I saw upwards of 4GHz on my i7-950 without touching any settings whatsoever. Have you tried any of those chips along with the xeons? Apologies if was featured in a previous vid already.
I strongly recommend against the x58 platform today, unless money is an absolute limitation. Those boards and chips are getting too old at this point, and they're pretty power inefficient. I would instead recommend getting x79 for not much more, or if you have a bit more to spend, an x99 (you can get a ddr3 capable mobo, ddr4 is $$). Both have cheap processors you can pair them with, with much newer lithography. I just built a home server with an x99-k9 board and an e5-2630L v3. 8 Cores, reasonably quick and super low power.
MSI X58 Pro-E User here. Northbridge was running at 90°C in idle, and this was after new Thermalpaste btw. So i installed 2x40mm Fans . Now im fine with 60°C in Idle. This Boards are made for Top Blowers and need good Airflow too. Bryan have you ever tried to overclock a E5649?
Great vid! But I was thinking, wouldn't a x79 combo, or even x99 from aliexpress would be better for the money? For example, I just paid 110$ for Xeon 2620v3, 16gb ddr4 and a huanzhi motherboard. This combo usually goes for 150, but x79 combos do go for 100$ no?
Its all about purchasing power, sometimes you can't spend the extra $20 or $30. I did just get my E5-2678 for ~$92 shipped. Got charged close to 7 bucks in tax though.
@@eppicshotgun1281 I guess, but I swear I've seen some x58 combos for 70-80 on AliExpress. I just think buying the combos are better for the money, unless the boards are worse. Let's see if the stuff I bought is worth it.
I bought a x5690 after knewing this CPU's from you. But also the question is, running it in stock, or with overclock 4.4 GHz, whats the best option for graphic card ? I have a 5700xt, and I believe the CPU is giving a good bootleneck. Thank you a lot for your amazing job. All what you've told about buys in other countrys is absolutely true. I try to keep an eye in all your reviews.
Just realised 2 days ago that I had bent my x58 board around the socket by installing the cooler incorrectly. It's an ASUS P6T SE X58 board and that's probably why it wouldn't overclock at all and 2 RAM slots weren't working 🥴 I didn't take the little square plastic riser off of the backplate and noticeably bent the board around the socket ...
Looks like a neat board, if I had any chips I'd pick one up, but I don't know if its still a good flip though in the current market with some games needing AVX and probably more in the future.
So if xeon processors are cheap and you can buy a whole combo for around 80$, do you still need the second hand older intel cores or older ryzens, i mean if xeon are cheap and have a lot of cores and are offering good performance for the price why would you buy like the new i3 or a cheaper ryzen
Those old Xeons do have some drawbacks. Their per-core performance is low compared to more modern options and they are missing some newer instruction sets eg. AVX or SSE 4.2 which means some modern games cannot even launch with them. They're still okay for esports type games but if you are hoping to play some modern AAA titles it becomes hit or miss whether those old CPUs will work.
I think it mostly depends on what people want to do/play on these systems. If you are dead broke and using an athlon x2 this will be a massive upgrade for next to nothing cash
@wakenbaker-uk absolutely true! X58 is great, and pretty decent. I do have a few X58 systems myself. They perform great for their age. But the lack of upgrade options and the lack of AVX instructions mean that if you have to upgrade the next time, it will be expensive. You cannot reuse DDR3, nor the motherboard. So, if you want the cheapest option for the moment, go for X58. If you can by any means get the few bucks to avoid it, avoid it. For only ~30-50$ more, you can get an X79 system that at least has AVX, or for a bit more you get DDR4 with X99 so you can reuse your memory (and if only multi core performance counts, even the motherboard) later on, which will save you a lot. Even the crappiest X99 combo is better than X58 for gaming, just because the IPC is much better. And if you want to upgrade, there are many options, and I almost bet they will be just as cheap in a few years. (Then it might be 15$ for an 8 or 10 core LGA2011 chip).
I have been using a DIY upgraded Dell Precision T3500, by updating the HDD to a SSD, CPU to a Xeon W3680 (6C8T 3.33-3.6Ghz) and GPU to 8GB RX580. And because I am not interested in OC this desktop, this was fantastic upgrade with minimal costs. However, the draw back is, heat issue with RX580 in a proprietary casing like Dell, cooling became an issue considering RX5802 does produce quite a bit of heat. So I have been trying to see if I can move the whole setup to a after market casing, which means requires change of Motherboard, as Dell motherboard cannot be moved into standard case because of the podiatry Ports mapping on the board. So this mean, if move to new casing, requires to change MB which made me look into this as well. After awhile I decided not to. This is because unfortunately these motherboard only has 2 (occasionally 3 DIM slot for RAM, which mean I can get 12gb onto it (as i only have 4gb sticks), and because of the new motherboard, window 10 OEM license in the Dell will not work and will require brand new Window 10 license..... costs starts to add up to a point of buy some cheaper used AMD FX cpu and mb combo instead.....
Hey, I’ve been looking to get a new GPU for my T3500. I’ve read some posts regarding that the RX 400/500 series don’t post because of the Dell’s legacy BIOS and they only support UEFI. Did yours work out of the box?
@@zireael666 Mine work out of box without issues. I have 2x Dell Precision T3500. I used one with RX580 8gb without problem. Another one for my daughter, I installed with RX570 8gb, out of box without problem. So definitely not UEFI only
Yo Bryan have you ever tried one of those Chinese B85 motherboards? theres this one brand that's really popular in my country called Jgenyue B85VH-M and people are using them from old i3 pcs to xeon builds, would you mind checking them out?
I was looking for replacement boards for my x58 chips (i7-950 and i7-920). This might be the perfect replacement. I had seen these before, but wasn't sure about the dual channel memory.
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I appreciate this type of content! I am stuck with a lower paying job after covid. The company terminated many of us to make up their losses for being shut down. My eyesight has always been poor, one sighted eye and several eye surgeries so driving in the larger cities is not an option for me. Needless to say, I am on a really low budget. Finding good deals online keeps me going! This is exactly the price, performance range I am looking for!
And it is probably still better than those crappy Dell Hell overheating crammed "PC"s
12:25 finaly someone who understands that everyones paychecks are different and not the same across the world.
Unfortunately one of the few who do.
Pretty sure anyone with more than 2 brain cells knows that...lol
some people have NO checks...
@J Fz yeah man , i love oz channel
@@deminybs have you been in the pcmr fb page all people talk about is 1k gaming rigs andeveryone using ddr3 are considered peasends
@@Herr.Mitternacht agreed
all they focus on is stuff what 25% can only dream or buy when the tech is 6+ years old
I wonder if they connected USB 3 to PCI bus? That's the sort of bandwidth maximum you would see...
Exactly my thought. 133MB/s
Hi Phill:)
You don't think they went the route of using an additional microchip to provide USB 3.0 support, like AMD did on the AM3+ platform?
@@BeefJerky4104 Yea they do, this platform doesn't have native USB 3. Often it's a chip from VIA. Sometimes the implementation is flaky, you can just use a PCIe USB 3 controller card though.
Hey Phil, yeah good thinking! probably what happened!
Gotta appreciate Bryan covering actual budget solutions and making it entertaining too.
The one. The ONLY TECH YES EEEXX FIIIFFTYY EIIIGHHT makes a triumphant Tech YES return!
xeons forever
Won a open box one of these on ebay for $40 shipped, also scored a X5650 for $1 (yes, $1)
Thanks Brian for making content that holds up even months or years later. Love the Xeon content, much love to you
Thank you, Bryan. For the first time in my life, I just activated my copy of Windows 10 Pro to a genuine version using your coupon code. Never used a genuine version of Windows 10 since it was released. I feel powerful and unstoppable.
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If you can call up a family member and let them know the good news! This man is activated!
@@salsaproductions6286 the thing is, they're selling oem volume license which isn't exactly a legal thing to do so it's not actually genuine in that sense.
@@jasonchan5504 I've seen evidence of talk with a microsoft rep, they consider the key valid if it's an OEM key. Was the reselling of the key legal? Depends on the country, for mine it's absolutely allowed.
Hey Bryan. Thanks for this old vid - pretty on target for me right now.... I've just bought this board to do my first build. I'll be using some parts from a 2015 video render machine... power, X5680, Titan x, 16GB ddr3 ram. Looks like I'll need a big old fan in there as well!
Really pleased you are speaking for those who are making 3$/hour or in some cases 3$/day!
Too many of these tech shows cater to high end.
No way, I've been looking at these on aliexpress for the past few days and you make a video on them! Amazing
Thank you Brian! I live in a developing country and the local tech tubers here all want to feature the big brands. Its great to see stuff from a more competent tech guy showcasing affordable with good price to performance products from non mainstream brands. Also, got a snowman because you recommended it. Definitely one of the best PC part purchases ive ever made.
Picked up a whole bunch of those "HP" model RX 460's that were actually MSI brand, but used in HP OEMs. I've been building cheap computers with them all year for people, pairing it with the i3-9100F. With local pricing, I can build 9100F/16GB/RX460/256GB NVME builds for around $300 USD. Makes a very good basic gaming PC, or home office PC.
i3-9100F
Gigabyte H310 S2P
16GB(8GBx2) G.Skill Aegis DDR4-2400
256GB Inland NVMe M.2 SSD
RX 460 2GB
430w 80+ PSU
Coolermaster N200 Mini-Tower Case
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$285ish USD
I used x58 platform for like 5 years.
Mainly intel xeon w3690 (6c/12t) with 960 and gtx 1070ti.
It served me well but i came to the point where i had to switch and build a new computer (ryzen5 3600) because of following reasons.
1. Bottlneck
2. Slow ram speeds
3. Electicity bill
4. No upgrade paths.
I will suggest these x58 builds only if you have like dirt cheap budget to spend on.
Exactly, they're great if you want a nice budget build but have no path for upgrades so you get what you get. If you're talking about the W3690 and X5690s, those CPUs are like 80 bucks still so you may as well get a used B350 for 50 bucks and used Ryzen 1600 for 100 and go from there.
I built a ryzen 3600 computer too! I'm afraid it'll be hard to get our hands on old ryzen 7 or 9's in the future as everyone seems to have that path in mind, haha
I can only afford low-mid setups with the job I have, this channel is so much helpful to me, specially getting that bang for buck cheap'o peripherals.. I'm glad I subscribed to this, since everyone can't afford the high end, I just want to game on a decent setup with an affordable price... very good work..
There's also a little bit more expensive version of motherboard, with 3 slots of Ram and a Northridge better cooling
Does it fit in a standard mATX case though?
@@NTSCuser the huananzhi x58 deluxe is atx so no
@@DarkoPetreski Thank you, that's what I thought.
I'm so early to this video that it said no views! Nice video once again, budget king!
I built two Xeon machines based on this board back during Christmas and sold them in less than 48 hours. Definitely still a good choice for 1080p gaming.
a great portion of the cost goes to the X58 chipset and on board VRM, the rest are usually within the "cents" range. These mobos cut cost by using recycled X58 chipsets from fried board and lower quality VRM. Or else, even in 2021, producing a new X58 mobo will still cost you as much as the cheapest B550 mobo.
CPU is free
Was just talking about this yesterday, my bud invested another $200 in Xeon memory and more into his Xeon army. Though that's a server use case for him, was wondering about how gaming use case went. Perfect timing to contemplate.
Oh yeah i love this kind of thinks, cheap hardware from aliexpress! Thank you Tech Yes! That's why we love you!
I've been wondering how some of these Chinese motherboards are from Ali Express and I'm so glad that you've covered them along with recommending them. I may have to dabble with some of them with some future builds for myself first before offering these to clients for budget builds. Thank you for all that you do!
So glad I found this channel. I’m now forced to shop for old Xeons and knockoff mobos to afford an even 5 Generation old GPU.
Can't wait to combine the Xeon with the Xe graphics for 50% more Xeon goodness.
Yo dawg, I heard you like Xeons, so I put Xe graphics in your X58 Xeon so you can have an X58 xeon in an X58 board with XE graphics
@J Fz SHHH :P
@@MarcoGPUtuber marco why doesn't my e5 1620 v2 boost to 3.9 ghz ever 😥😥
Really good video, because not everyone can afford the latest and greatest but stuff like this is just ace. Good work!
Normally I would be interested in something like this, but I've been able to pick up Dell Precision T3500's so cheap (around $75 US). I still might pick one up for a green themed sale.
Thank you father Xeon for this bang for buck cpu combo
Hi Brian :) I’ve been watching a lot of your videos and I wanted to try to build my very first PC with used parts here in the Philippines. On hand, I have an old i5-3470, 4gb RAM, and a 500gb HDD. Using Facebook Marketplace I found out that the parts here are scarce, since a lot of people are like wild animals hunting for them used pc parts and are fast at transacting with the seller. Luckily I found another 4gb RAM for 10$, (I’ll just change to USD so everyone can understand) a Deepcool bronze 500w for 30$, (it was really clean, almost brand new) and the best deal I found with the help from a friend was an RX 570 for 80$. I also got a Coolermaster Hyper 212 LED for 13$. I bought an ASUS PH61-M for 40$ from Shopee, (They said it was used, but it was really clean and almost brand new, Shopee is like Aliexpress) and the case I got from a local store for 13$. The pc is working fine now, overall expenses were about 200$ and I’m really happy with the result. Thank you Brian for giving me the inspiration to build a pc using only used parts! Much love from the Philippines!!
dope bro, tip for upgrading would be i7 3770 cause i5 3470 is definetely gonna bottleneck the rx 570
@@valuehunter5544 or you could raise the resolution or graphics settings as a temporary measure shift the bottleneck to the gpu
question: where did you buy the CM hyper 212 for 13$?
@@valuehunter5544 in his case a 3770 will probly run him 60% of the entire cost of his pc asumeing he could find it. But if he can its basicly on Par with a ryzen 3400g and should hold off most esports games
@@mikeymaiku no way its on par with a 3400g, maximum like a ryzen 5 1400 or smth
I was tempted in the past Bryan, ideally a dual CPU board (for an actual budget server) however two thing ultimately put me off, hard to find a supported HSF and more importantly limited amount of RAM slots. In the end I took my first step into the server world with a HP Blade. Actually I made my own TH-cam video on that!
I was able to pickup the Tech yes Special Rampage ii extreme for $90 shipped 🤩 waiting for my X5675
Man, even finding those Rampage II boards is nearly impossible to sometimes heavily overpriced🤪😬
the x5675 so good i ordered a second one
Fantastic snowman cooler here in the UK. Thanks to this channel.
Interesting Video, not sure if current tech but great content, you have plenty of enthusiasm so keep it up boy.
Realtalk. This is the reason why i follow tyc. I just sold my msi eclipse x58 and i7 920 with gtx 1050ti
Ahhh, Bryan bought some AliExpress X58/X79 CPU cooler brackets, so that the Snowman can shine in those platforms too :D.
How long did it take for you to get what you ordered from Ali?
@@kosh2501 if the order comes from China, usually 3-4 weeks. I try to find warehouses from Spain whenever possible (I'm portuguese), these usually get to me in just a few days.
@@rhyzon Thanks Andre.
I hope there's a comparison to other popular Xeons like the E5-2620 v3
This channel and others like it like PhilsComputerLab are the antidote to Linus tech tips which shows nothing but hardware that only rich people can afford and almost never has anything that has prices that are affordable. So thank you to Tech YES City and PhilsComputerLab :D
Where have u been all my life? TH-cam should have shown u to me forever ago. You won a sub with this video
No question the SNOWMAN with dual 120mm fan and 6 pipes is a BEAST of a CPU cooler and for the money (~US$ 32), can easily handle a TDP of ~160W. It is an excellent product for budget over-clockers. It handles the E5-1660 and 1650V2 overclocked to 4.1 and 4.3 GHz, resp., with aplomb. Also, it keeps my 12 core E5-2678V3 running VERY cool, even with a turbo-unlocked all core of between 3.2 to 3.3GHz.
On all Chinese motherboards, to include the well-built HZ deluxe X79, I play it safe and use at least an 80mm fan on the the VRM heatsink.
PS: Stepping up to the E5-1680v2 (OC'd to 4.4Ghz on a P9X79Pro) I am using the PCCooler GI-D66A (~US$70), with a TDP of 230W. I am using an open air vertical test bench in permanent configuration for this particular daily driver. To include two 90mm Blue fans (place above and neatly mounted with tie wraps to the handle of the test bench) on the VRM heatsink and RAM slots and one side-mounted 120mm RGB running across the GPU and lower area under the CPU cooler. Of course, I do not have young children or pets in the house, so I can live with the open air system...looks cool on my desk top too! Also, I like the ease of de-dusting the open air design...a quick clean every two weeks with a cheap electric blower and voila.
On Oct 2020 i upgrade from my Xeon W3690 to Ryzen 7 3800X just because my xeon lack AVX needed in some new game title now... but still it going live on with my RX 470D for older title for now. Long live X58 user out there...
I have this board brand x58, except mine has 3 ram slots supporting triple channel. It also has a fan for the NB chip heatsink that came with it. I use a CPU heatsink similar to yours with a fan on each side directed towards the rear of the case with a case fan blowing outward and the air flow across the VRM stays fairy cool. With the x5670 I use in it, the system never gets overly hot, it's well within safe range. This is proof systems use the GPU more for games and that's the key. My i5 6500 z170 board doesn't do any better than the x58 will with the same GPU. Only real difference is various options like for m.2 and bus speeds. Don't need to spend tons of cash to play games at a decent frame rate.
Yesterday i was checking your channel if you uploaded any new videos, thx for the new video! Cant find this content everywhere.
Thanks for using the RX 570 rather than something like a RX 6800, fits well with this budget!
I just got a Precision T3500 with an X58 board, a Xeon W3565 on an eBay auction for 56£ (unfortunately, with shipping and taxes to Portugal it came up to 86£), but nonetheless I got an amazing beast with 12GB DDR3 RAM for 90£ (100€)! Couldn't be happier.
Get a heatsink with the fan blowing on the mobo (perpendicular instead of parallel) and you're pretty much set. Lower profile too.
Shiping price for my country goes from 39-142 bucks so this is not good for me. But this is very good gide line, great video i always love x58 + xeon + ecc combo videos.
ecc registered works with my x5675 on asus p6t and p6t deluxe, 48gb cheaply
How would this compare to an X79 combo? I’ve seen a few cpu, mb, ram combos around that $100 price point. And some of those Ali express mobos have m.2 slots. I find it hard to recommend x58 in 2021 unless you already have a working mobo.
X79 with an E5 1650/60v2 is pretty potent when overclocked, plus it has AVX so you're not gonna be limited by the games that need it to run.
Tech YES city: this would be perfect for people on tight budget
Me with my fresh new r9 x5950: I NEED to build this!!!
Good video mate ! I need to build a new PC on a really tight budget, so I'm exploring various options.
AYO techyes city recommending koss ksc75s, just saying that if you're not satisfied with the onboard audio, apple made a dongle (usb c to 3.5mm) which is very clean very good sounding (upgrade over any onboard audio btw and I use it myself), also don't forget to put yaxi pads on them to make them even better, or you can cop a kph30i/porta pro for the warmer sound. Either one you cop, it will be good, and also, thank you for informing non audio enthusiast about koss, you're doing good stuff with that
back to the xeon goodness baby, we covered them earlier but they did improve the USB 3 on this, considering it for an XP build
Still have my x5670 with the Gigabyte x58A-UD3R. Great little CPU, pushes 4 GHz on all 6 cores sustained. Only downside is that it does not support AVX instructions which many software now requires.
Just bought a combo with a E5-2678 and it.does pretty well. I got it to boost to 3.5 vs the 3.0 with decent cooling all around
Cool! I really do have a soft spot for X58, nonetheless I think that depending on your budget and local market it would be a little more convenient to either buy a decommissioned Dell T3500 or HP Z400 (or even only the MB) if you really want an X58 machine or pull the trigger and make the jump directly towards X99, as the cheapest E5-2620v3 kits including a decent quad channel capable and actively cooled VRM MB and 16 GB of RAM can be acquired from AliExpress for around $150 USD and offer a pretty interesting upgrade path even today. X79 has the disadvantage that budget Chinese boards are limited because of the use of dual channel memory only (instead of native quad channel) and that the upgrade path is limited to only the 6c CPUs due to their weak VRM cooling solution. Best regards!
I think I would use a top blower cpu cooler to solve vrm and nb temperatures. This should do the job without adding strange additional fan configurations
I like your vision about differences in incomes of the people around the world. I wish the best for you and your people. By the way good information.!!
These xeons are a great value especially for countries that have low minimum wages. Thanks Bryan for bringing up the minimum wage part since it really is a big part of the xeon vs "brand new value thing" argument.
Also have noticed you have become a little skinny (ever since the $400 gaming pc video). You all right man?
Nice video as always btw!
still waiting for a video about solving the heat problems, replacing heatsinks or even full cheap aluminium watercooling? And ofcourse OC results 😇
I would love to see a video about shipping PCs with the snowman mounted. From my experience I had problems with faulty motherboards and scratches in the side panel of cheap cases after shipping.
Great video! I’d LOVE to see a video on these Chinese dual socket boards. Maybe some budget plastic tube water cooling?
Take care! Much love from Texas.
I got a spare server motherboard for Dell m610 blades for cheap, it has dual CPU sockets, I am trying to hack the power supply to feed the 12V rails, as this board was designed for a rack plug, not the standard molex connector. Hunting for other dual Xeon sockets motherboards, if you know some...
Why still X58 when there are similar X79 and X99 platforms? I know you personally like them. Maybe a comparison video for theye platforms for these Aliexpress boards?
this is my thought as well, a cheap x58 board and ddr3 ecc is like the same average price as a cheap x79 board. X99 is kinda pushed out of the super-low budget by needing ddr4 tho.
I think it is the cheaper CPU's that are available.. What is the cost for a CPU to suit X79 ??
speaking of the ksc75 im using it now to watch the video great headphones indeed :D anyway thanks for your awesome content and keep em comin ;)
Brian, the Xeon Emperor has spoken😎
Charge...to Ali Express brothers and sisters😀
They may become a gone-in-60 seconds commodity item😆
Best video ever, you have helped me built my own pc, and now im really good at it, now im living my dream being a pc builder/fixer for a living❤️❤️ Keep up the good work
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@@Amanullah-dx5uy That's not true I'm sure Byran would see this and glad his content can help people, Let's try be wholesome here.
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Hey that board looks cool, i'm wondering if uefi is supported?
Just picked up a xeon e5 2670 for $40 off gumtree. Going to check out one of those cheap "x79" motherboards and see how we go.
Congratulations on your good work with these older platforms!
Just out of curiosity.... Are the Aerocool XPredator or GT-S Full tower cases still available in Australia? I've been looking for them for some time. They're very difficult to find in good shape here in Brazil. I like full tower cases from the early 2010's. I thought that maybe they could still be available in Australia since I saw many Predator reviews from Australian channels.
Love your channel, Love your work Bryan but can you make a video on which Windows is truly best for old Hardware, thank you 👍😆
I think the X79 systems are a better deal. They have high frequency 4-core 8-thread CPUs for around $25 like the e5-1620 v2 that should outperform these X58 CPUs at about the same price. The 6-core e5-1650 v2 is also quite good, but will cost another $50 or so.
I bought the "HUANANZHI X99 8M F X99" - Motherboard with Intel XEON E5 2620 V3 with 2 * 8G DDR4 NON-ECC memory combo kit set for 146 USD (120 euros) on AliExpress and I'm so satisfied!
I love your content because you think about third world countries that have way expensive new hardware
@Marco Can you suggest a channel like this but revolving around rack mount servers? Or maybe Bryan? Can you cover the used server scene?
Nice video once again, budget king!
if it can make the cpu on turbo or oc state, then it probably a decent motherboard because some cheapest mb with lowest chipset and questionable vrm often lock the option to oc or make the cpu can't use boost frequency (or higher multiplier)
edit : that snowman cooler was the best for it's price, its ran silent while keeping high performance and low price, I use one of it too btw :), just make sure to bend the hook to straighten it a bit because mine came at ridicoulus angle and need some work to use.
Did you realise you said "in 2020" towards the end of the video (before the question)? XD
Where did you get so much ECC ram for so cheap? I'm typically finding most sellers are selling each 8gb dim for 20$ CAD. Similar value to AUD I believe
I've got a couple of these boards and a handful of i7 9xx chips. Tested with RX 480 8G and a GTX 1070. Was pleasantly surprised how the gpus were still the bottleneck in a handful of games tested. Though the chips did turbo WAYYYY higher than spec. I saw upwards of 4GHz on my i7-950 without touching any settings whatsoever. Have you tried any of those chips along with the xeons? Apologies if was featured in a previous vid already.
I strongly recommend against the x58 platform today, unless money is an absolute limitation. Those boards and chips are getting too old at this point, and they're pretty power inefficient.
I would instead recommend getting x79 for not much more, or if you have a bit more to spend, an x99 (you can get a ddr3 capable mobo, ddr4 is $$). Both have cheap processors you can pair them with, with much newer lithography.
I just built a home server with an x99-k9 board and an e5-2630L v3. 8 Cores, reasonably quick and super low power.
MSI X58 Pro-E User here. Northbridge was running at 90°C in idle, and this was after new Thermalpaste btw. So i installed 2x40mm Fans . Now im fine with 60°C in Idle. This Boards are made for Top Blowers and need good Airflow too. Bryan have you ever tried to overclock a E5649?
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Great vid! But I was thinking, wouldn't a x79 combo, or even x99 from aliexpress would be better for the money? For example, I just paid 110$ for Xeon 2620v3, 16gb ddr4 and a huanzhi motherboard. This combo usually goes for 150, but x79 combos do go for 100$ no?
Its all about purchasing power, sometimes you can't spend the extra $20 or $30. I did just get my E5-2678 for ~$92 shipped. Got charged close to 7 bucks in tax though.
@@eppicshotgun1281 I guess, but I swear I've seen some x58 combos for 70-80 on AliExpress. I just think buying the combos are better for the money, unless the boards are worse. Let's see if the stuff I bought is worth it.
I bought a x5690 after knewing this CPU's from you. But also the question is, running it in stock, or with overclock 4.4 GHz, whats the best option for graphic card ? I have a 5700xt, and I believe the CPU is giving a good bootleneck. Thank you a lot for your amazing job. All what you've told about buys in other countrys is absolutely true. I try to keep an eye in all your reviews.
Just realised 2 days ago that I had bent my x58 board around the socket by installing the cooler incorrectly. It's an ASUS P6T SE X58 board and that's probably why it wouldn't overclock at all and 2 RAM slots weren't working 🥴 I didn't take the little square plastic riser off of the backplate and noticeably bent the board around the socket ...
i love youur channel! thnx for your info
Looks like a neat board, if I had any chips I'd pick one up, but I don't know if its still a good flip though in the current market with some games needing AVX and probably more in the future.
Awesome material Brian.
Will the t4 snow man cooler good for my i7 3930k 4.2ghz I have a cooler which is not cooling well 82c now in winter
There is a new motherboard on Aliexpress with triple channel and it also has a fix for the high temps
So if xeon processors are cheap and you can buy a whole combo for around 80$, do you still need the second hand older intel cores or older ryzens, i mean if xeon are cheap and have a lot of cores and are offering good performance for the price why would you buy like the new i3 or a cheaper ryzen
Those old Xeons do have some drawbacks. Their per-core performance is low compared to more modern options and they are missing some newer instruction sets eg. AVX or SSE 4.2 which means some modern games cannot even launch with them. They're still okay for esports type games but if you are hoping to play some modern AAA titles it becomes hit or miss whether those old CPUs will work.
Brian can you make a video tutorial on checking on board motherboard audio will be highly appreciated
Lack of AVX really hurts the viability of X58 nowadays... rest in peace king
That's also what I think. I would at least go with X99, even better is Ryzen stuff as it has great upgrade potential
I think it mostly depends on what people want to do/play on these systems. If you are dead broke and using an athlon x2 this will be a massive upgrade for next to nothing cash
@wakenbaker-uk absolutely true! X58 is great, and pretty decent. I do have a few X58 systems myself. They perform great for their age. But the lack of upgrade options and the lack of AVX instructions mean that if you have to upgrade the next time, it will be expensive. You cannot reuse DDR3, nor the motherboard.
So, if you want the cheapest option for the moment, go for X58.
If you can by any means get the few bucks to avoid it, avoid it. For only ~30-50$ more, you can get an X79 system that at least has AVX, or for a bit more you get DDR4 with X99 so you can reuse your memory (and if only multi core performance counts, even the motherboard) later on, which will save you a lot.
Even the crappiest X99 combo is better than X58 for gaming, just because the IPC is much better. And if you want to upgrade, there are many options, and I almost bet they will be just as cheap in a few years. (Then it might be 15$ for an 8 or 10 core LGA2011 chip).
I have been using a DIY upgraded Dell Precision T3500, by updating the HDD to a SSD, CPU to a Xeon W3680 (6C8T 3.33-3.6Ghz) and GPU to 8GB RX580. And because I am not interested in OC this desktop, this was fantastic upgrade with minimal costs. However, the draw back is, heat issue with RX580 in a proprietary casing like Dell, cooling became an issue considering RX5802 does produce quite a bit of heat.
So I have been trying to see if I can move the whole setup to a after market casing, which means requires change of Motherboard, as Dell motherboard cannot be moved into standard case because of the podiatry Ports mapping on the board. So this mean, if move to new casing, requires to change MB which made me look into this as well. After awhile I decided not to. This is because unfortunately these motherboard only has 2 (occasionally 3 DIM slot for RAM, which mean I can get 12gb onto it (as i only have 4gb sticks), and because of the new motherboard, window 10 OEM license in the Dell will not work and will require brand new Window 10 license..... costs starts to add up to a point of buy some cheaper used AMD FX cpu and mb combo instead.....
Hey, I’ve been looking to get a new GPU for my T3500. I’ve read some posts regarding that the RX 400/500 series don’t post because of the Dell’s legacy BIOS and they only support UEFI. Did yours work out of the box?
@@zireael666 Mine work out of box without issues. I have 2x Dell Precision T3500. I used one with RX580 8gb without problem. Another one for my daughter, I installed with RX570 8gb, out of box without problem. So definitely not UEFI only
Yes Xeon deals hmmm 👌
Yo Bryan have you ever tried one of those Chinese B85 motherboards? theres this one brand that's really popular in my country called Jgenyue B85VH-M and people are using them from old i3 pcs to xeon builds, would you mind checking them out?
8 gig ECC sticks cost me 3usd each at the local ewaste bin
I need to try a Aliexpress Xeon Special!
I tried to get one but the seller canceled my order out of nowhere.
I was looking for replacement boards for my x58 chips (i7-950 and i7-920). This might be the perfect replacement. I had seen these before, but wasn't sure about the dual channel memory.
What about aftermarket VRM coolers with a fan? Do any of those exist? This seems like a common problem on sub $50 dollar MBs.
have you seen those new lga 1155 motherboard that supposed to support both types of ssd/nvme drives in the same m.2 slot!
What do u think about the ryzen combo sold onali express
Are they good in the difficult time we are in
How much power does a combo like that draw? Could be a good budget Freenas server with ECC ram etc.
Can you make a review on b75 with m.2 slot. Greatly appreciated if you can. Thank you